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Manchester City vs Fluminense

Manchester City as champions of the UEFA European Champions League for the 2022/2023 season.
Fluminense as champions of the Copa Libertadores for the 2023/2023 season.

The final match of the FIFA Club World Cup was held in Jeddah, at the King Abdullah Sports City Stadium.
The referee for this match will be Szymon Marciniak from Poland.
About 30 minutes from now, the match will kick off.

Who do you think will be better at lifting this trophy? Whether Manchester City or Fluminense.

Manchester City.

It's an easy pick because Pep Guardiola and his City boys will want to win this title as it sends a strong message to other contenders of the EPL title race that they might be low for the moment but they can still bounce back. Judging from the City lineup, Pep really wants to win it. Although there's no Haaland or KDB but Rodri is available so it should be an easy city win.

I don't know much against Fluminense but English teams have always done well in the club world cup.

Short answer; I strongly believe that Manchester City  will carry the trophy.

ManCity, Guardiola will be the first manager who won the Club World Cup 4 times if Mancity able to beat Fluminense
Guardiola: Barcelona 2019, 2011 and Bayern 2013
Ancelotti: Milan 2007 and Madrid 2014, 2022

I predict Manchester City will win and lift this historic trophy because Manchester City had never won it before Pep Guardiola came and gave them a winning touch.
Pep Guardiola's squad is without Haaland. Haaland's position was replaced by Alvarez. Maybe Alvarez's winning mentality can give Manchester City the championship. In the Fluminense camp, Marcelo, who is very experienced in every final match, seems to be giving him the special task of guarding Alvarez.

Lol! Alvarez score after just 40 secs. Yeah ManCity definitely will win this and it will be their 1st trophy in this tournament.
There will be many goals from this match, it will be open play.

I bet on Man. City in the final, but I'm rooting for Fluminense hehe
City have already scored 1x0  with less than a minute of play, so it's going to be very difficult now, but guys, watch the match, Fluminense have a great team and could get a good result

I created the thread for the FIFA Club World Cup, but not many people are interested in it  :D
Here's my thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5477599.20

Though in recent Manchester city's recent games in the premier league has been ending in drwas and they seem to drop a bit of form ,But I do believe Manchester city is still the favorite team to win the game despite the fact that they're already leading in the game with a 1-0 ,and I hope that the final result will be in their favor.

This is going to be a walk in the park for Manchester City, I expected some form of ressilience from Fluminense, but giving Man City the opportunity to take the lead just after 40 seconds isn't what they'd be able to savage a good result from, and Man City have just doubled their lead before the 30 minute mark, so it's pretty much a wrap for Man City and Guardiola, another trophy to add to their 2023 collections.

Manchester City will not get this far to lose to team like Fluminense, it will be almost impossible unless maybe with 3 red cards which I don't see happening. Pep Guardiola is a coach that does not love losing at finals especially to a weaker side. So this match is more or less an easy win for Manchester City. 

Manchester City 2:0 Fluminense (HT)

It didn't take the citizens up to 10 minutes and they got one goal in from Alvarez, he chested the ball to an empty post, following a rebound shot from Ake. Manchester City has been very fantastic so far, each time they're with the ball, they're always a threat to the opponent. Fluminense could not stand City's constant pressure and Nino scored an own goal in the 27 mins to put City 2 goals up. Fluminense were only able to produce one shot on target in the first half and has not been really convincing.

Any top European club would look the same compared to Fluminense now. The gap between Europe and the rest of the world at club level is too big. In the entire history of the Club World Cup, the title has been lost by European team only three times: in 2012, Chelsea lost to Corinthians, in 2005, Liverpool lost to Sao Paulo, and in 2000, Real Madrid did not even reach the final.

Separately, it is worth noting that even though Europe missed out on 3 titles, this does not mean that at one time someone was close to the elite of European football from non-European teams. Unfortunately, this tournament has a very low status (probably lower than national cups) and European teams treat the games here as friendly ones.
Thanks to Saudi Arabia, trends are emerging that seem to lead to the fact that in a few years this tournament will make sense as European clubs will lose their hegemony, but at the moment you should not count on this.

I think in the second half, City (taking into account the mistakes made during the game against Crystal Palace) would rather score a couple more goals than allow Fluminense to reduce the gap in the score. At the moment, bookmakers quote the likely scorer of the third goal as:

Manchester City 1.55

None 3.43

Fluminense FC RJ 6.47

It's hard to disagree with them. And it seems to me that there is some value in the odds of 1.55.

This wasn't a contest for Manchester city as they are meant to beat Fluminense and as it stands the game is 3:0 in favour of Manchester city.
The consistency of European teams always beating the very best clubs in other continent shows how far apart the European teams are from others.
I think this should not be a contest anymore as the outcome of this sort of matches are already known. Although this also a chance for players of the lesser team to showcase their skills and talents in such competition and who knows it may just help their future.

A very easy win for Manchester city tonight. I didn't even bother trying to pronounce the club name they are playing with. The scoreline already assured that city is the winner of this final and it is one among other trophies they are set to add to their trophy cabinet this season.
Nice control from Alvarez and I before I could complete my appraisal of the striker, he did well to make an assist to help Foren secure the third goal of the night.

It is quite certain that Guarduiola is now the first manager to win the Club World Cup 4 times, because from the look of the match in the first half, City is already winning with a 2-0 victory and I don't think that Fluminense will be able to equalize these tow goals, talk more of winning the match.

Man City is a strong club and their opponent will not be able to withstand their pressure because Guardiola will want to make history by winning tonight's game. City should be very happy that they met a weak club in this match.

Well it too obvious that Manchester city are going to be champions. European team have been dominating tha competition for as long as I can remember or recall and the only time I knew an European team lost in that competition would be the famous Corinthians win over the  English premier league team Chelsea, the year they became champions of Europe, Chelsea lost that game to the Brazilian team Corinthians and it was something of great surprise and joy for the Brazilians but no doubt such case won't repeat itself with Manchester city.

I did not expect a such destructive Manchester City as they won 4-0 which shows the absolute superiority against the Brazilian team of Fluminense,of course Fluminense is not in a good position in this year and this also impacted the game.I remember other times when even stronger teams than City like glorious Milan at the their peak of gold times having difficulties to win against Sao Paulo from Brazil or other South American teams like Boca Juniors or River Plate.

Things have changed now and they were crowned World Club Champions at the Jewel Stadium and they fully deserved it,there is no more else to say regarding this matter.

Manchester City were on rampant in their FIFA Club World Cup today against Brazilian club Fluminense. The European champions did not in any way give their opponents a chance to come back in the game as they delivered a clinical performance against the South American champions. Fluminense who has former Real Madrid star Marcelo did their best but it wasn't enough to stop a Manchester City team that was playing in their full strength.

Since the history of the FIFA Club World Cup began, the final has been played more by European and Brazilian clubs but unlike what we used to see in the past, Manchester City had little worries in that game. Corinthians in the 2012 edition defeated the then European champions Chelsea by a lone goal in the final but that wasn't the case today as Manchester City cruised to easy win

As expected Manchester City brought back the trophy home FiFa Club World Cup, Fluminense received a very early goal at the first minute of the match by Alvarez who scored the earliest record goal in this Cup beside it’s a goal in finals in just 40 seconds.
Pep Guardiola is creating history for Manchester City, I believe that everything this team on lately is because or at least with the big help of this coach holding all Premier League, UCL, UEFA Super Cup, and the FCWC titles and become also the first Premier League team that win all these trophies. Don’t you think that since Pep arrived to City everything has changed for the best. Yes he had some downs before, But he worked hard to prepare a strong team.
Marcelo got the best note of Fluminense team in this match, at his age I would say he is a great player that served and played much in Real Madrid. I wished that he joins the SPL and play with or against his previous teammates, Ronaldo and Benzema.

The odds of this match were so easy to get, betting for Manchester City with high stakes were not that high risk, so congratulations for those who set a bet.

A well deserving team won another championship, congrats to Manchester and to those who place their bet on this team. I thought the match will be a close up but it ended up with a huge upset at 4-0, Manchester really shows a champion team and claiming back the title. Fluminese might fell short but still they have a great season and for sure they will come back stronger next world cup. Manchester is the team favorite and they didn’t fail their fans as they get the Championship again.

There was no doubt about Manchester's victory in the final match, as evidenced by the wide score achieved by 4:0. Congratulations to Manchester and to all those who place their bet on it.
In fact, I was waiting for the result to be close after watching Fluminense’s performance during its last matches, in which it demonstrated great efficiency that made it worthy of the opportunity to reach the final match. Throughout the match, Fluminense was only able to reach the scoring area a few times, but Manchester's defenses were amazing and did not leave them many opportunities to get the ball close to their goal.

Watched the game online and we can really see how Manchester dominates the match and claim the championship. Their total team effort pays off and luckily, I was able to place some bet before the game started, it looks like this is expected by many because of a good run with Manchester on their previous matches. Still congratulations for Fluminense for getting into the finals, we know how hard it is and we know that they did their best too.

It was clear from the beginning of the match till the end that City was the better side. They dominated the game where they attacked and defended very well. Scoring four goals in a final means that the losers were outclassed totally. Fluminense didn't threaten the City's defence at all, I just saw only one goal on target. City have added another trophy after winning massively last season. But the match has some bad news with Manchester City midfielder Rodri sustaining an injury. With the absence of other important players like  Erling Haaland, Jeremy Doku and Kevin De Bruyne, City will have to struggle to win their future games. Although I am not a fan of City, congratulations to them.

The levels of the two teams are quite different, and player price valuations are also very different. But this is the final match, both teams must prepare carefully.
And we can see that Man City certainly dominates the game, with 4 goals without reply. Of course, many people were betting on this final match.

It's not a difficult result to predict, but you also have to respect Fluminense because they competed quite well even though the result was a loss.
This victory is an important asset for Man City to restore their team's confidence after the last few matches in the Premier League did not meet expectations.
Once again congratulations to Man City, they deserved to get the trophy.

The performance of Manchester city will determine if they will make away with trophy or not, because I know very well that Manchester city have performing players and them carrying the trophy will be determine by seriousness and desperation because if they don't have the courage as a team they will not defeat their counterparts the performance of Fluminense is too poor to be compared with Manchester city performance.

Manchester city has won this match already. I know this should be one of the simplest match for them this season.. Although some simple match can be lose if the opponent team is over under-rated. I'm glad that Manchester city didn't miss out here.

I have never heard of the Fluminense team, today is my first time. Had I picked before the game, I still would have chosen Manchester City to win the game because even though they have not been as undeafeatable as they were last season, they are still a very strong team to play against especially in finals of any competition.

I just imagine how the medal cabinet of the Manchester City coach will be because he has been consistent with winning trophies from Barcelona, Bayern and  presently Manchester City. The only other coach to have won more trophies than he has is Carlo Ancelloti.

Manchester City's win over Fluminense has shown that premier league top contenders are always in better shape and chance to win over other league top clubs no matter how well performed they are in their respective league.

Despite Manchester City's poor performance, they were able to win Fluminense, the champions of the Copa Libertadores. Isn't it noteworthy that the Premier League is among the world's most competitive leagues? A team cannot compete with or hold off a premier league team, much alone one of its top contenders who win the league trophy or finish top in their match table each season, if they are not prepared enough.

Congrats to Manchester City for having their first trophy of this season. More should come as the season goes further

Even though it was 4x0, I think Fluminense did well in the World Cup
I know you don't follow Brazilian soccer and most of you don't know Fluminense, but the team also had a great Brazilian championship, won the Libertadores and got to the World Cup with all the merits possible

It's a difficult task to beat M.City even without Haaland and De Bruyne, so the Brazilian team ends the year with something to be proud of
I managed to win the bet, because I bet on M. City

And I'll give you sonething to take in consideration, I posted this in my thread:

it's true, Fluminense had an excellent Libertadores and an excellent Club World Cup, but they found themselves faced with aliens who won everything there was to win, furthermore Fluminense has some old guys unfortunately with a very high average age
Cano 35 years old, Keno 34 years old, Ganso 34 years old, Marcelo 35 years old, Melo 40 years old. In short, the fact that they played a world final could already be such a victory for them

Manchester City managed to beat Fluminense with an unreasonable score for a prestigious final event.
Not even a minute, just a few seconds after the kick off whistle, Alvarez immediately scored a goal.

Manchester City's opponents, Fluminense: opponents who don't fight back.
But, thanks to Fluminense who managed to play in the final. There are still many things that need to be changed to be better.
To Manchester City, congratulations on making history.

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We will still wait for a review of the results of this match before I lock this topic.

You forgot the goalkeeper Fabio, he's only 43 years old  8) 8) 8)
Even though they are considered "old" in soccer, I believe it is a good change for soccer that players are playing longer at a good level
Even though they lost to M.City, I don't think it had anything to do with the age of the players, on the contrary it may have helped

I remember in 2011 when Santos reached the final of the World Cup and played against Barcelona
Santos had no less than Neymar, Ganso and Elano in the same team, all young players, a fast, agile team, but they were no match for the Spanish team who also won 4x0. The coach was the same: Guardiola  :D

Congratulations on your pick, it's obvious anyway that the English will carry that trophy because Fluminense isn't just in the same level as Manchester even with the handicap of not having the stars playing, they were still able to pull it off. Really felt bad about Fluminense though, at the middle of the game, they seem to have a different energy and they weren't able to match what Manchester was putting all throughout the match, I mean it's a 4-0 but as @rdluffy has said:

I mean the stats in terms of possession and accuracy are so close so it's definitely right to say that they did well but it's not enough because of the aggressiveness of Manchester City when it comes to their attempts at scoring a goal.

I think we all know that Manchester City is much better than Fluminense, but that doesn't mean Fluminense doesn't deserve to be champion and beat Manchester City, but it seems that in terms of strength it is also very different because Manchester City is far above average when viewed in terms of players even though they play with Their second tier can definitely win against Fluminense.

But it seems that Manchester City didn't take Fluminense too lightly because this was the final match of the World Cup between clubs so Guardiola still played several key players which ultimately led Manchester City to a landslide win 4 - 0 without reply. I just saw an interesting game played by Manchester City considering Manchester City in the domestic league is less consistent. they were different yesterday. congratulations to Manchester City  ;)

During the inter-club World Cup, Fluminense played very well, they even managed to win against Al Ahly with a score of 2-0 in the last semifinal, but facing Man City is not an easy matter, especially since Man City is a team that can currently be said to be strongest in the world because they succeeded in becoming UCL champions.
Based on the statistics of the match, it is clear that Flumnense played quite well, they succeeded in getting 45% ball position, but the attacks carried out by Fluminense were not very effective, some of the opportunities created did not really threaten Man City's goal. Alvarez's quick goal in the 1st minute showed that the class of the two teams was very different, congratulations to man city.

Not Manchester City, but UEFA, we all know the quality in Europe is better than other continents, therefore it is normal to see Manchester City win against Fluminense. BTW, regarding the FIFA Club World Cup, do you have a record of winners from other continents besides Europe? because I've looked for it on SofaScore and it's only up to 2008 with all the winners being from UEFA :D.

I really wonder if any team from another continent has won this competition.

The FIFA Club World Cup was created in 2000. Before that, it had a different format and was called the Intercontinental Cup or the Toyota Cup

If we consider only FIFA officials, 4 times teams from outside Europe have won the tournament, and all 4 times they were Brazilians, including my team Corinthians  8) 8) 8)

2000 - Corinthians
2005 - São Paulo
2006 - Internacional
2012 - Corinthians

After 2012 only Europeans won the cup

You can see the complete information about the cup here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_Club_World_Cup

Manchester City got into the Cup being the UEFA champions of 2023. And we know there's no comparison to European clubs with any clubs anywhere else.
European leagues are the dream for every emerging players around the world. Non-european nations which have a good football environment like Brazil and Argentina has almost all of their top players play in European leagues. All of the top performing players except a few exceptions, chose Europe for there career.
On the overall history of the Cup, brazilian team has won 4 times in earlier format while rest 16 times has been from EPL, La liga, Serie A or Bundesliga.

the difference in quality of teams from Europe in relation to the quality of teams from America and Africa is a big difference, teams from Europe have a high level of quality, every year they further refine the skills of the players who compete in Europe, while what has happened in America and Africa is the opposite, every year the Africans are declining, even reaching the level where local leagues are reducing the number of teams that participate in local leagues due to lack of money, this is because there is a lot of corruption in the African football and this has only gotten worse every year, the African player just keeps praying to go and play in Europe, he doesn't expect anything good coming from the local league in the country of Africa

I can hardly even risk saying that it is impossible for an African player to be given two options: playing in Africa or playing in Europe in a big team and he refuses the offer to play in Europe, because he knows that when he plays in Europe , they will recognize his real value, he will be popular, he will earn a lot of money and that is something tempting that no new player would refuse. Now in the case of the American continent, players have good salary and living conditions compared to players who play in Africa. But even so, the player from America knows that he won't be called to play on the national team while he's playing in America, he knows he won't be famous while he's playing in America, that's why they fight to play in Europe.

In this final game it was very visible how Manchester City had a quality that the opponent did not have, the quality of Manchester City's passes were at a level that was incomprehensible to the opponent, I always say that Brazilian football is very slow, and very amateur and this was very visible in this game, the Europeans have a game with very quick passes and high precision in their passes, while in Brazil the style of play is very irritating, they don't have high quality and precise passes, they don't have passes that They make the audience that is watching go crazy and happy and to make matters worse the players seem to be very relaxed. it was quite obvious that manchester city would win as soon as anyone saw the squad they would enter the field

Ah yes. I didn't watch the game but I knew that Manchester City would win because English teams have superceded their opponents especially when their opponents are lesser known or an underdog. It would take a really determined team to cause such an upset and it's just unfortunate that Fluminense isn't one of such teams. 4-0 goal margin5in a final match is no small feat.

Nice info, mate. I'm almost skeptical of this competition, CONMEBOL and UEFA dominate this competition, so we can't expect much from AFC, CAF, CONCACAF and OFC. One day if a team from these four continents manages to win, it will surprise the football public.


Yep, we have to be honest and admit about it, UEFA has better regulations and other things there, that's why they dominate this competition so much. In fact, the third caste league class in the PL is better in several domestic football competitions in the SEA region (based on what I've seen).

Hahaha, as predicted Manchester City will indeed win the Club World Cup title and now Europe is still the strongest and always dominates success in this competition.
The 4 - 0 victory was victory with absolute points and of course it was truly extraordinary success for Manchester City again, this season there is still chance for Manchester City to win another title, namely in the UCL.
For the Premier League, there may be various pressures and also difficulties in catching up to be in first place.

Unfortunately, in the final match which won, we couldn't see Haaland performance because he had to recover after his injury.
From the latest information circulating, Haaland has actually recovered and just needs to wait for the right time to help strengthen the Manchester City squad in each of their matches.
However, Pep is very firm that he doesn't want his players to get injured again because have just recovered, after all still have to focus on the UCL and Haaland is expected to perform well in the UCL.

Congratulations to Manchester City for their victory and all fans still really hope to win another title at the end of this season.

There's a big GAP between the European teams and the rest right now
The 4 times the South Americans won the cup were extremely difficult achievements



I'll give my opinion as I've said before, but all the good players from South America for example, go to play in Europe for money and fame. Brazilian players, from the moment they start playing, at 6 or 7 years old, already want to play for Real Madrid, Barcelona etc, it's very difficult to compete against the Europeans when they don't have the money to keep their players

From 2025 the format of the Club World Cup will change, and it will probably be even more difficult for a team from outside Europe to win the World Cup

This prediction is definitely not exemptional from the casinos gambling because it still lies on a lucky prediction.
I can't assume to predict this buttress on their statistical histories because games could be shuffly baffling to be determined.
This is just going to be determined by the performances of the both teams but yeah, if I must make a guess then I have to be biased simply by my well wishes to one of my fansing team amongst them.
So, I would simply go for Fluminense to win.