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Title: BItcoin Rank - Check Your Bitcoin Rank !
Post by: riverdip on December 30, 2023, 08:30:45 AM
https://i.ibb.co/93rjngn/Screenshot-from-2023-12-30-14-00-03.png (https://bitcoinrank.besoeasy.com/)

https://i.ibb.co/y5rVR5g/banner.png (https://bitcoinrank.besoeasy.com/)

https://i.ibb.co/5sWNHBz/Screenshot-from-2023-12-30-14-12-37.png (https://bitcoinrank.besoeasy.com)

Ever wondered where you stand in the world of Bitcoin? This app, drawing inspiration from the Bitcoin Rich List, gives you the scoop on your Bitcoin address and its global rank. Plus, it throws in a bunch of other cool stats about your Bitcoin wallet to satisfy your curiosity!




https://bitcoinrank.besoeasy.com

https://github.com/besoeasy/bitcoinrank


( Not mine, Found On Reddit )


Title: Re: BItcoin Rank - Check Your Bitcoin Rank !
Post by: riverdip on December 30, 2023, 08:43:54 AM
https://i.ibb.co/bJ5kMcn/Screenshot-from-2023-12-30-14-12-58.png (https://bitcoinrank.besoeasy.com/#/go/bc1q69ce2m7uuq3tvqeame8yhqzdk7h5762ddwesj0qfzmxdqctw6ukqgu5af0)


Title: Re: BItcoin Rank - Check Your Bitcoin Rank !
Post by: decodx on December 30, 2023, 12:14:58 PM
Ever wondered where you stand in the world of Bitcoin? This app, drawing inspiration from the Bitcoin Rich List, gives you the scoop on your Bitcoin address and its global rank. Plus, it throws in a bunch of other cool stats about your Bitcoin wallet to satisfy your curiosity!

That's an interesting app/site. Let's just hope it wasn't set up as a honeypot by some government agency.  ;)
However, it's probably better for everyone to use the site only through a VPN or Tor network, just in case.


Title: Re: BItcoin Rank - Check Your Bitcoin Rank !
Post by: bitmover on December 30, 2023, 12:28:22 PM
Ever wondered where you stand in the world of Bitcoin? This app, drawing inspiration from the Bitcoin Rich List, gives you the scoop on your Bitcoin address and its global rank. Plus, it throws in a bunch of other cool stats about your Bitcoin wallet to satisfy your curiosity!

That's an interesting app/site. Let's just hope it wasn't set up as a honeypot by some government agency.  ;)
However, it's probably better for everyone to use the site only through a VPN or Tor network, just in case.


I agree, there is a privacy problem here.

Why enter bitcoin address? We could just enter our balance.

Looks like a phising, so people can just build a chain analysis data base with addresses and IP


Title: Re: BItcoin Rank - Check Your Bitcoin Rank !
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on December 30, 2023, 02:08:40 PM
Entering your balance doesn't really help, since most addresses which are actually being used by individuals will contain a unique number of coins. There is exactly one address which fits the "0.22904283 BTC" balance shared in the screenshot above: https://mempool.space/address/bc1q69ce2m7uuq3tvqeame8yhqzdk7h5762ddwesj0qfzmxdqctw6ukqgu5af0

But having said that, it's still not as bad for your privacy as using any third party block explorer or any non-full node wallet, which the majority of people are doing all the time.

I think the bigger issue is it is completely pointless. Given that there are thousands of centralized exchanges and other services which are each holding thousands of users' coins on a handful of addresses, being in the top x% of addresses means nothing.


Title: Re: BItcoin Rank - Check Your Bitcoin Rank !
Post by: Crypto Library on December 30, 2023, 03:28:16 PM
I agree, there is a privacy problem here.

Why enter bitcoin address? We could just enter our balance.

Looks like a phising, so people can just build a chain analysis data base with addresses and IP
That's true, I don't think there is any need to broke own privacy by using these.
Bitcoin has been created for privacy, I will not think anything other than foolishness to give the information of the funds of my wallet to others. I would never use them and would not recommend anyone to watch ranks even just for fun.
But I can suggest that those who are interested to know their rank can see such charts, And you can guess what rank you are with the total amount of funds in your wallet's. O0

https://i.postimg.cc/26tg89pf/shrimp-1.jpg (https://stormgain.com/blog/whales-join-shrimp-in-bitcoin-accumulation)


Title: Re: BItcoin Rank - Check Your Bitcoin Rank !
Post by: riverdip on December 30, 2023, 09:20:20 PM
Ever wondered where you stand in the world of Bitcoin? This app, drawing inspiration from the Bitcoin Rich List, gives you the scoop on your Bitcoin address and its global rank. Plus, it throws in a bunch of other cool stats about your Bitcoin wallet to satisfy your curiosity!

That's an interesting app/site. Let's just hope it wasn't set up as a honeypot by some government agency.  ;)
However, it's probably better for everyone to use the site only through a VPN or Tor network, just in case.



its open source, looks like just some API calls, and it saves everything in your browser, so no remote database

It uses the same backend as electrum wallet, i think it might be possible to your your own node if running


Title: Re: BItcoin Rank - Check Your Bitcoin Rank !
Post by: riverdip on December 30, 2023, 09:23:37 PM
Entering your balance doesn't really help, since most addresses which are actually being used by individuals will contain a unique number of coins. There is exactly one address which fits the "0.22904283 BTC" balance shared in the screenshot above: https://mempool.space/address/bc1q69ce2m7uuq3tvqeame8yhqzdk7h5762ddwesj0qfzmxdqctw6ukqgu5af0

But having said that, it's still not as bad for your privacy as using any third party block explorer or any non-full node wallet, which the majority of people are doing all the time.

I think the bigger issue is it is completely pointless. Given that there are thousands of centralized exchanges and other services which are each holding thousands of users' coins on a handful of addresses, being in the top x% of addresses means nothing.

Well as it says on github, they have more features coming, the one i am waiting for is, it will show all the address that can be linked to you



Title: Re: BItcoin Rank - Check Your Bitcoin Rank !
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on December 31, 2023, 11:46:48 AM
Well as it says on github, they have more features coming, the one i am waiting for is, it will show all the address that can be linked to you
So it will perform blockchain analysis on your address. And you are keen to hand over your bitcoin address (alongside your IP, browser fingerprint, and other identifying information) for ask for it to have analysis performed on it? ??? ???


Title: Re: BItcoin Rank - Check Your Bitcoin Rank !
Post by: shield132 on December 31, 2023, 12:17:40 PM
Let's just hope it wasn't set up as a honeypot by some government agency.  ;)
If I type thousands of addresses on this website with my naked IP, what will happen? How will they know if I enter my address, your address or someone's address?
In overall, it's a basic rule to mask your IP address and take some security measurements to not leave your traces everywhere. Everyone should do it when they enter their address on blockchain.com, blockcypher, blockchair, mempool and other blockchain explorer websites.

Well as it says on github, they have more features coming, the one i am waiting for is, it will show all the address that can be linked to you
So it will perform blockchain analysis on your address. And you are keen to hand over your bitcoin address (alongside your IP, browser fingerprint, and other identifying information) for ask for it to have analysis performed on it? ??? ???
This project will not become popular and I think blockchain analysis don't build their hope on collecting important data from this website but if they put something like this on major blockchain explorer websites, it might attract many new people to type their address with their naked IP.


Title: Re: BItcoin Rank - Check Your Bitcoin Rank !
Post by: riverdip on December 31, 2023, 09:28:31 PM
Well as it says on github, they have more features coming, the one i am waiting for is, it will show all the address that can be linked to you
So it will perform blockchain analysis on your address. And you are keen to hand over your bitcoin address (alongside your IP, browser fingerprint, and other identifying information) for ask for it to have analysis performed on it? ??? ???

as it says everything is processed in browser -> your computer.


Title: Re: BItcoin Rank - Check Your Bitcoin Rank !
Post by: Maus0728 on January 01, 2024, 05:45:01 AM
That's an interesting app/site. Let's just hope it wasn't set up as a honeypot by some government agency.  ;)
However, it's probably better for everyone to use the site only through a VPN or Tor network, just in case.
Knowing how the CIA, NSA and all the other 3 letter agencies all over the world work, I don't think that it's a far-fetched idea that this website is really a honeypot by the government to do some watchlist on a lot of bitcoin addresses and it's actually a likely thing that they can do because it's easier for them to filter out who's got some suspicious activity if they log their addresses there. I don't think VPN or Tor will be of help in this one.


Title: Re: BItcoin Rank - Check Your Bitcoin Rank !
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on January 01, 2024, 11:30:51 AM
If I type thousands of addresses on this website with my naked IP, what will happen? How will they know if I enter my address, your address or someone's address?
They won't, but almost nobody does this and almost everybody only looks up their own addresses or transactions.

This project will not become popular and I think blockchain analysis don't build their hope on collecting important data from this website
Yeah, probably not given we know that they already run various blockchain explorers for the purpose of gathering data, but it is still bad practice to go around entering your addresses on random websites.

as it says everything is processed in browser -> your computer.
If they are implementing a feature to show which addresses are linked to the address you enter as you state, then this claim is impossible. There is no possible way your browser can download and process the 500GB+ blockchain in order to analyze your address locally. Your data is absolutely being processed by their servers.


Title: Re: BItcoin Rank - Check Your Bitcoin Rank !
Post by: PrivacyG on January 01, 2024, 02:28:21 PM
I am baffled at how much trust some people have in these random websites.

It could say any thing they want you to believe.  Including that all is being calculated on your computer Browser solely.  How do you people trust them?  Did you verify that information or do you just blindly trust because if it is on the Internet it has to be true?

I have a some what curiosity to know what rank I would be.  But I know this is not going to help me in any way and it is only information they need.

Could be a honey pot of the Federal Agencies.  Could be a data collection they can then sell for an expensive price to a much bigger Blockchain Analysis company.  Could even be the creation of a big Blockchain Analysis firm.  Who the hell knows.

Keep that curiosity to yourself I would advise.  Nobody knows what the hell these people are doing with your information.


Title: Re: BItcoin Rank - Check Your Bitcoin Rank !
Post by: riverdip on January 02, 2024, 04:58:37 AM
I am baffled at how much trust some people have in these random websites.

It could say any thing they want you to believe.  Including that all is being calculated on your computer Browser solely.  How do you people trust them?  Did you verify that information or do you just blindly trust because if it is on the Internet it has to be true?

I have a some what curiosity to know what rank I would be.  But I know this is not going to help me in any way and it is only information they need.

Could be a honey pot of the Federal Agencies.  Could be a data collection they can then sell for an expensive price to a much bigger Blockchain Analysis company.  Could even be the creation of a big Blockchain Analysis firm.  Who the hell knows.

Keep that curiosity to yourself I would advise.  Nobody knows what the hell these people are doing with your information.

PrivacyG looks like you misunderstood whole project.

Code is open source -> check github

You can always download or fork it, and run it on your on infrastructure.

I think you should run it locally





Title: Re: BItcoin Rank - Check Your Bitcoin Rank !
Post by: Yamane_Keto on January 02, 2024, 06:22:49 AM
It is a beautiful project that allows you to download the code, re-edit it and then you can enjoy comparing characters that resemble Dragon Ball Z characters. I understand some people's concerns about privacy, but since the code is open source, you can modify it, and it is better for it to be self-hosted so that the data is collected from your node instead of from servers managed by them.


Title: Re: BItcoin Rank - Check Your Bitcoin Rank !
Post by: dkbit98 on January 02, 2024, 04:15:30 PM
I saw similar projects for generating random avatar characters for other altcoins, but I would not enter any of my bitcoin addresses for this purpose.
This is ok as a fun experimental project, but I don't see any serious use case here or anything that would be interesting to me.

For people who are worried about privacy, this is what I found on developer's Aman Singh Katal blog article:
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The entire system operates entirely within the browser, utilizing local data storage and processing for heightened security and privacy. The use of DexieJS allows for SQL queries directly within the browser, ensuring enhanced security measures.
https://besoeasy.medium.com/bitcoin-rank-a-better-bitcoin-rich-list-4bf11308c270


Title: Re: BItcoin Rank - Check Your Bitcoin Rank !
Post by: Adbitco on January 02, 2024, 06:14:19 PM
So after putting my bitcoin address and proceed what else does it work for you & me apart from giving me my position and rank?
Does this add value to someone life or what..
Most times we need to be very careful with the way we go about with some site, we can find it very fun or a thing to joke about but partially or we are indirectly selling our data to a random site.


Title: Re: BItcoin Rank - Check Your Bitcoin Rank !
Post by: Yamane_Keto on January 03, 2024, 05:27:08 AM
So after putting my bitcoin address and proceed what else does it work for you & me apart from giving me my position and rank?
Does this add value to someone life or what..
Most times we need to be very careful with the way we go about with some site, we can find it very fun or a thing to joke about but partially or we are indirectly selling our data to a random site.
You will enter your Bitcoin address only, which is something you do at blockchair.com, and all the information they can collect is browser data, browsing fingerprint, cookies, and IP address and accessing the site through Tor will enhance your privacy.
It's kind of fun, and the code is open source, so you can modify it and customize the images yourself.