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Title: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: pooya87 on December 31, 2023, 01:06:37 PM
I just read this news and I can't stop laughing.
McDonald's is said to be planning to sue people who have been refusing to buy its products over the past months leading to their $1.3 million loss. This is due to a boycott movement where people in a lot of countries are sanctioning this company because of its support of the Zionist regime that is occupying Palestine and is committing genocide there.

Imagine if some day you are out and about, suddenly someone wearing a chicken suit puts a gun to your head forcing you to buy their fast food or they'll shoot you :D

Ref: https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2023/12/359864/mcdonalds-malaysia-sues-pro-palestine-activists-over-boycott


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: Die_empty on December 31, 2023, 03:04:55 PM
I just read this news and I can't stop laughing.
McDonald's is said to be planning to sue people who have been refusing to buy its products over the past months leading to their $1.3 million loss. This is due to a boycott movement where people in a lot of countries are sanctioning this company because of its support of the Zionist regime that is occupying Palestine and is committing genocide there.
The boycott of some products produced in or owned by Israel is growing. There has been a campaign from various NGOs that promotes boycotting of any product connected to Israel. These organisations are encouraging people to boycott products from companies like  Puma, Siemens, Airbnb, Disney, McDonald’s, Pizza Hut, Domino’s Pizza, and Burger King. Some firms are now looking for diverse ways to sell Israeli products, in France supermarkets like Lidl and Carrefour (https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2023/11/358880/supermarket-in-france-mislabels-israeli-products-as-moroccan-to-dodge-boycott) mislabel Israeli products as Moroccan to dodge boycott

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Imagine if some day you are out and about, suddenly someone wearing a chicken suit puts a gun to your head forcing you to buy their fast food or they'll shoot you :D

Ref: https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2023/12/359864/mcdonalds-malaysia-sues-pro-palestine-activists-over-boycott
Hahahaha!!!! This will be a terrible situation because you will be forced to pay for what you don't really need. But I wonder if McDonald's Malaysia will be able to win this case of alleged false and defamatory statements against Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions (BDS).  (https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2023/12/359864/mcdonalds-malaysia-sues-pro-palestine-activists-over-boycott) I think the NGO has the right to organise campaigns because that is their fundamental right. And the people also have the right to spend money on what they like. But the fast food is claiming that BDS wrongly linked them to the killing happening in Gaza which has led to losses, job cuts, and closures. I think it is up to the court to decide the case. However, I think everything should be done to end the continuous killings of innocent citizens in Gaza.


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: icalical on December 31, 2023, 03:25:37 PM
I have been told by many Israel supporters that these kind of Boycott is useless and has no effect at all, to the company or to Israel, but turns out it make some impact. Moreover, who will be sued for doing the BDS, it is a decentralized collective movement, no one is paying for those people to stop or boycotting any product, most of them aren't even encouraging/discouraging people to do the BDS, people are just stating that they are boycotting some products. That will be a very tough case to be brought into court.


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: DrBeer on December 31, 2023, 04:30:35 PM
I just read this news and I can't stop laughing.
McDonald's is said to be planning to sue people who have been refusing to buy its products over the past months leading to their $1.3 million loss. This is due to a boycott movement where people in a lot of countries are sanctioning this company because of its support of the Zionist regime that is occupying Palestine and is committing genocide there.

Imagine if some day you are out and about, suddenly someone wearing a chicken suit puts a gun to your head forcing you to buy their fast food or they'll shoot you :D

Ref: https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2023/12/359864/mcdonalds-malaysia-sues-pro-palestine-activists-over-boycott

The source is certainly "trustworthy" :)
Most likely an ordinary throw-in, no more than that.  And there are several reasons for this assessment:
- Yes I agree that the Western judicial system sometimes "shows a show". But first of all - the legal force of for example Pennsylvania court has no legal force on the territory of the listed countries.
- Secondly, although the American judicial system, I repeat, surprises others, but they are always oriented on the legislative basis, and freedom of choice is one of the foundations of the Western world.

So either a link to an adequate source, or thanks for the funny New Year's tale :)


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: pooya87 on December 31, 2023, 05:44:53 PM
So either a link to an adequate source, or thanks for the funny New Year's tale :)
With a quick look at your post history, you basically consider Reuters an "adequate" source since you namedrop it often although without providing any link and apparently only as long as it is saying stuff that you like and other times when you don't like it, Reuters becomes not "trustworthy" :D
Good to know you are still a desperate propagandist.


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: Rruchi man on December 31, 2023, 06:57:21 PM
I just read this news and I can't stop laughing.
McDonald's is said to be planning to sue people who have been refusing to buy its products over the past months leading to their $1.3 million loss. This is due to a boycott movement where people in a lot of countries are sanctioning this company because of its support of the Zionist regime that is occupying Palestine and is committing genocide there.
It is ridiculous because they can actually focus and dedicate the funds that they will use to pursue a court case on rebranded marketing, and other things like giving back to the community, so that they can improve their status and have a good score with community members who already frown at them for supporting the zionist movements.

The situation the company has put themselves should be a lesson to other established brands and company to be careful before showing support or taking sides with any movement or cause. Sometimes as a company or brand, keep your opinions to yourself, neutrality will safe you from some loses that can be made by picking sides.


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: BIT-BENDER on December 31, 2023, 07:47:15 PM
I just read this news and I can't stop laughing.
McDonald's is said to be planning to sue people who have been refusing to buy its products over the past months leading to their $1.3 million loss. This is due to a boycott movement where people in a lot of countries are sanctioning this company because of its support of the Zionist regime that is occupying Palestine and is committing genocide there.

Imagine if some day you are out and about, suddenly someone wearing a chicken suit puts a gun to your head forcing you to buy their fast food or they'll shoot you :D

Ref: https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2023/12/359864/mcdonalds-malaysia-sues-pro-palestine-activists-over-boycott
Well in as much as this news sound absurd I think the story isn't yet complete, if this news is true then there may have been an agreement between McDonald's and those they are suing obviously and from the looks of things the agreement was never meet.
Also this sort of news can be a fabricated I don't believe McDonald's would want such negative Media attention.


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: Renampun on December 31, 2023, 08:57:49 PM
I just read this news and I can't stop laughing.
McDonald's is said to be planning to sue people who have been refusing to buy its products over the past months leading to their $1.3 million loss. This is due to a boycott movement where people in a lot of countries are sanctioning this company because of its support of the Zionist regime that is occupying Palestine and is committing genocide there.

Imagine if some day you are out and about, suddenly someone wearing a chicken suit puts a gun to your head forcing you to buy their fast food or they'll shoot you :D

Ref: https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2023/12/359864/mcdonalds-malaysia-sues-pro-palestine-activists-over-boycott

haha, this is the craziest news I've ever read, if that's what they're going to do then I have to be careful when I'm on the road, maybe one day I'll be held at gunpoint by a McDonald's custom chicken lol
what they are planning is truly unethical, I think the boycott of products supporting Israel is not only happening this time (although this year is the worst) but they should be able to look for other ideas to continue to retain their customers such as charging discounts or enforcing working hours (shifts) for permanent employees. based on data, McDonald's profits each year are quite large, so it's a little funny to hear that they are experiencing losses, can they not cover the losses they are currently claiming from the profits they have earned so far?


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: Furious 7 on December 31, 2023, 09:58:20 PM
This can be a very funny thing in the end because despite the current reason for not buying some products because of political issues, I don't think something like this can be used as a demand, let alone directly into the legal realm.

I don't want to discuss the issue of boycotts or the like but buying a product is up to the actual consumer when indeed the product is not purchased then indeed we cannot blame the consumer in this case because after all it is someone's personal right not to buy.
But if you really want to sue for boycott reasons that make the product not sell well then I think there is no need to take responsibility in this case because all must be sued including the root causes of political problems that occur in Israel and Palestine because it all boils down from there at first. 


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: Casdinyard on December 31, 2023, 11:56:59 PM
I just read this news and I can't stop laughing.
McDonald's is said to be planning to sue people who have been refusing to buy its products over the past months leading to their $1.3 million loss. This is due to a boycott movement where people in a lot of countries are sanctioning this company because of its support of the Zionist regime that is occupying Palestine and is committing genocide there.

Imagine if some day you are out and about, suddenly someone wearing a chicken suit puts a gun to your head forcing you to buy their fast food or they'll shoot you :D

Ref: https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2023/12/359864/mcdonalds-malaysia-sues-pro-palestine-activists-over-boycott
The thing is that they are in the right here, it's gonna sound stupid (like that one time they slandered a poor old woman who took them to court after she sustained 3rd degree burns from getting Mcdonald's Coffee spilled over her lap) but the fact is that they are getting hated for what they believe in, and since the topic of Nazism and genocide is pretty much still a hot topic up til now to be tagged as such has costed them a lot, and there really isn't anything they can do at this point except either take the hit like a champ or actually do something about it, which in this case they did. It's only understandable given the circumstances the company has been in and besides the fact that this is going to make headlines, they are definitely by no means in the wrong or stupid here.

Anyway, can't wait to see how this is going to affect Mcdonald's even more in the future. As tensions rise between Palestine and Israel and as more and more people are outed to be supportive of the genocidal acts that the latter is actively committing. 



Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: Solosanz on January 01, 2024, 05:36:35 AM
It means the boycott is working, this is the reason why many of them give a big discount. :D

We need to wait which is the next brand will complain the boycott organization, I guess Starbucks?

McDonald will have their own army to fight against people who don't want to buy their products. McDonald's army aim to make people become obese or at least they have weight more than 270 lbs.
https://imgvb.com/images/2024/01/01/1d8c2609e3de4c2eba8fb7507dfd36a6.jpg


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: Catenaccio on January 01, 2024, 05:46:42 AM
How will they enforce it in practice?

It sounds impossible because customers are custodying their money and they can use their money to purchase anything or just keep their money in pockets.

McDonald can not steal money from customers and can not force their customers to buy McDonald products. It is like want to KYC cryptocurrency wallets, addresses that are practically impossible.

I really dislike this behavoir from McDonald. They can not blame their business loss on customers and force customers sharing their business loss.


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: Majestic-milf on January 01, 2024, 07:34:41 AM

Imagine if some day you are out and about, suddenly someone wearing a chicken suit puts a gun to your head forcing you to buy their fast food or they'll shoot you :D


It would be quite hilarious if such a thing should eventually happen but then, desperation can make one do anything right?

 I got from the news that they are actually suing the BDS movement for linking them to  supporting the Israeli's genocidal war whereas Malaysia being a Muslim country is heavily in support of the Palestinians and they are doing that simply because they feel they've being wrongly attached. The boycott is really affecting business and this branch of McDonald's in Malaysia is feeling the heat as well.


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: CODE200 on January 01, 2024, 07:43:42 AM
Well, this is the dystopian future that they want us to live in, it's a boring one but it's slowly going to kill your soul. McDonald's doing this bullshit of a lawsuit is definitely the goofiest of them all, the fact that they held the people responsible for their stance when it comes to crimes against humanity committed by Israel is laughable to me like dude, just say that you condemn the evil shit that Israelites are doing to the country of Jesus, they still think that they're going to lose customers when they choose whatever that's morally right. I guess that's to be expected when corporations like McDonalds are built as a soulless entity that only wants to churn out profit for their megalomaniac overlords. Technically this isn't a first time because defamation of companies that lead to less sales in their products can actually be considered a way where companies are suing someone for unsold products or potential profit losses.


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: Jatiluhung on January 01, 2024, 08:08:47 AM
I just read this news and I can't stop laughing.
McDonald's is said to be planning to sue people who have been refusing to buy its products over the past months leading to their $1.3 million loss. This is due to a boycott movement where people in a lot of countries are sanctioning this company because of its support of the Zionist regime that is occupying Palestine and is committing genocide there.

Imagine if some day you are out and about, suddenly someone wearing a chicken suit puts a gun to your head forcing you to buy their fast food or they'll shoot you :D

Ref: https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2023/12/359864/mcdonalds-malaysia-sues-pro-palestine-activists-over-boycott
Thank you guys for sharing this. This is very suitable New Year's entertainment at this time. Even though I didn't laugh out loud, I also felt amused and almost laughed at the news. But on the other hand, I also realize that the power of this product boycott is really quite powerful. The effect is quite big. In fact, I once heard news that basically said "Country A, even though they won the war, is pessimistic and still feels defeated because their economy is starting to collapse because of the boycott". I heard this news where the person who said this was at an important meeting of a country.

At first they may have underestimated the boycott. But the impact began to be felt after several weeks and months after the action began to be carried out by each individual's consciousness. It turns out that war doesn't just have to be violent. But things like this seem quite effective too. Even another form of war is on social media. Well, you definitely know how the numbers and social media accounts of important people from that country are starting to be filled with posts from netizens criticizing them.


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: DrBeer on January 01, 2024, 08:31:43 AM
So either a link to an adequate source, or thanks for the funny New Year's tale :)
With a quick look at your post history, you basically consider Reuters an "adequate" source since you namedrop it often although without providing any link and apparently only as long as it is saying stuff that you like and other times when you don't like it, Reuters becomes not "trustworthy" :D
Good to know you are still a desperate propagandist.


Handing out clichés "by the book", and denying facts, manipulating information, "deleting inconvenient posts" - can you tell me who this is about ? :) All this is just a good indicator that incriminates the propagandist ! Congratulations - you have exposed yourself ! It happens :))))

Regarding the media - about the resource you found somewhere - I did not find any significant mention of it, as well as its reporters and affiliation ... Although it must be said that even the Reitors have corrupt reporters, but it's easy to find out by double-checking the facts. This is for your future - so that you know how the propagandists' information throws are disclosed :)


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: sunsilk on January 01, 2024, 10:58:39 AM
Funny but this loss is a serious hit on them. Now, this is a lesson for most of the companies and businesses that there is power with the people when we are all united.

Before, it was like that they are asking and pleasing people to work for them. This time, it is all about boycotting and they cannot do anything with the voice of the people.

I guess that soon they are going to make efforts for getting their customers trust back through various promos and discounts.


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: 0t3p0t on January 01, 2024, 02:08:30 PM
I just read this news and I can't stop laughing.
McDonald's is said to be planning to sue people who have been refusing to buy its products over the past months leading to their $1.3 million loss. This is due to a boycott movement where people in a lot of countries are sanctioning this company because of its support of the Zionist regime that is occupying Palestine and is committing genocide there.

Imagine if some day you are out and about, suddenly someone wearing a chicken suit puts a gun to your head forcing you to buy their fast food or they'll shoot you :D

Ref: https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2023/12/359864/mcdonalds-malaysia-sues-pro-palestine-activists-over-boycott
Yeah this really is funny and this makes me think how about our right to choose as a costumer? Lucky for me I am living in a remote area where Mcdo is out of service I am having a higher chance not getting shot in the head. 😅

I think they can only sue those who are involved in that activity if it is unlawful to boycott someones business. If it was covered by the Sherman Anti-Trust Act that I found on google then it is illegal.


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: 3kpk3 on January 01, 2024, 02:22:54 PM
Had no idea about this. To be fair, McDonald's Malaysia is suing the BDS Malaysia movement due to financial losses and job cuts which is why it makes sense as to why they are doing this.

I do feel this is unnecessary though considering how rich and powerful they truly are overall.


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: shield132 on January 01, 2024, 02:37:40 PM
I just read this news and I can't stop laughing.
McDonald's is said to be planning to sue people who have been refusing to buy its products over the past months leading to their $1.3 million loss. This is due to a boycott movement where people in a lot of countries are sanctioning this company because of its support of the Zionist regime that is occupying Palestine and is committing genocide there.

Imagine if some day you are out and about, suddenly someone wearing a chicken suit puts a gun to your head forcing you to buy their fast food or they'll shoot you :D

Ref: https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2023/12/359864/mcdonalds-malaysia-sues-pro-palestine-activists-over-boycott
They aren't suing people who refuse to buy their product, they are suing the organization that does anti-advertisement of McDonalds. Since BDS Malaysia is doing that, a counterattack is expected from McDonalds because it's a business and they lose money.
To be fair, people shouldn't be eating McDonalds, it's very bad for their health because their junk food significantly increases the risk of diabetes, heart disease, stroke and obesity. If we were living in a good world, McDonalds and other types of fast food would be banned because they do more harm than good.



Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: cabron on January 01, 2024, 02:56:40 PM

So are they trying to identify those people among the Boycott, Divestment, Sanctions (BDS) group who trying to put it on social media? 
The boycott group successfully made this franchise lose a substantial amount of profit and has led to job loss after inciting the public to boycott fast food through social media because of providing free meals to Israeli soldiers.

How did the group linked this particular Mcdonald's to Israel-Hamas war?


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: btc78 on January 01, 2024, 03:31:50 PM
How will they enforce it in practice?

It sounds impossible because customers are custodying their money and they can use their money to purchase anything or just keep their money in pockets.

McDonald can not steal money from customers and can not force their customers to buy McDonald products. It is like want to KYC cryptocurrency wallets, addresses that are practically impossible.

I really dislike this behavoir from McDonald. They can not blame their business loss on customers and force customers sharing their business loss.

I think they will just be suing the very group who is the one pushing for the boycott because they are the ones sharing information about the brand, McDonald’s, which they claim to be false and derogatory

No one can actually sue someone who does not buy anything from them i mean even without the boycott i do not normally buy fast food let alone McDonald’s can they actually hold me accountable for that? It seems quite silly to think about


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: letteredhub on January 01, 2024, 04:59:24 PM
Imagine if some day you are out and about, suddenly someone wearing a chicken suit puts a gun to your head forcing you to buy their fast food or they'll shoot you :D

Ref: https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2023/12/359864/mcdonalds-malaysia-sues-pro-palestine-activists-over-boycott
For the sake of my head I'll just buy, and problem solved... Maybe later we can find out why it has gone to that extend of forcing people to purchase their products which I don't think that will be possible if I argue at the time when the gun was pointed to head. Dead men don't tell tales.

It's the first time am hearing about a company suing customers for not purchasing from them so it has to be funny try to grasp what really gave them the courage to take such action. Strange things are happening and this is one of many I have heard.


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: eightdots on January 01, 2024, 05:24:13 PM
I just read this news and I can't stop laughing.
McDonald's is said to be planning to sue people who have been refusing to buy its products over the past months leading to their $1.3 million loss. This is due to a boycott movement where people in a lot of countries are sanctioning this company because of its support of the Zionist regime that is occupying Palestine and is committing genocide there.

Imagine if some day you are out and about, suddenly someone wearing a chicken suit puts a gun to your head forcing you to buy their fast food or they'll shoot you :D

Ref: https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2023/12/359864/mcdonalds-malaysia-sues-pro-palestine-activists-over-boycott

I think that these boycotts made in many places have achieved their purpose. If not, it would not spread to the whole world and would not be spoken by many people. Even the slightest protest can grow over time and have a major impact. The protests on some companies also had an impact on the world and a negative impact on companies has emerged. The protests seem to have achieved their goals.

The news is extremely funny and interesting. I wonder if there is another company that has previously applied such a method. Some do something like this for advertising, but I don't think the companies we're talking about need advertising.


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: jrrsparkles on January 01, 2024, 05:29:48 PM
I just read this news and I can't stop laughing.
McDonald's is said to be planning to sue people who have been refusing to buy its products over the past months leading to their $1.3 million loss.

An act just for a $1.3 Million loss for a company like McDonald's? Either the number should be too huge or they just want to threaten their customers to keep buying it? :D

BTW, who is actually will be paying the penalty if Mc Donald's wins this? Government. ;D


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: Hewlet on January 01, 2024, 05:30:27 PM
I just read this news and I can't stop laughing.
McDonald's is said to be planning to sue people who have been refusing to buy its products over the past months leading to their $1.3 million loss. This is due to a boycott movement where people in a lot of countries are sanctioning this company because of its support of the Zionist regime that is occupying Palestine and is committing genocide there.

Imagine if some day you are out and about, suddenly someone wearing a chicken suit puts a gun to your head forcing you to buy their fast food or they'll shoot you :D

Ref: https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2023/12/359864/mcdonalds-malaysia-sues-pro-palestine-activists-over-boycott
are they going to sue individuals for obeying the sanction placed on them by their authorities or they are suing the government for placing a sanction on them that has affected their business negatively?

Every national has the right to make decisions that they feel will protect her citizens and this might include sanction as this and I doubt that the threat to make any sue is a realistic one since ad most nations won't even give an f to it.


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: franky1 on January 01, 2024, 05:58:35 PM
meanwhile in the news
"malaysians boycott mcdonalds against support of gaza"

meanwhile in the news
"indonesians boycott mcdonalds against support of isreal"

solution:
mcdonald franchise licencee's release statement
"we do not support any political motivation. all death and suffering of all humans are bad. we will continue to fund relief efforts of any landscape/location of the citizen victims harmed by actions of their politicians bad decisions"

as long as mcdonalds only fund food supplies to both sides victims of war.. and not supple cattle prods and meat burning materials to militia's of any side. then mcdonalds can escape the problem


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: angrybirdy on January 02, 2024, 01:33:15 AM
I have been told by many Israel supporters that these kind of Boycott is useless and has no effect at all, to the company or to Israel, but turns out it make some impact. Moreover, who will be sued for doing the BDS, it is a decentralized collective movement, no one is paying for those people to stop or boycotting any product, most of them aren't even encouraging/discouraging people to do the BDS, people are just stating that they are boycotting some products. That will be a very tough case to be brought into court.

Indeed, this will be a very tough case. Even if many people in israel thinks that boycotting is useless because they can't see some improvements but for other people, we can see a little differences and impact of doing it. You're right that there's no one paying those people in doing boycotting some products. This is an initiative of the people to fight their grievances with what is happening in the country, they just show that they are not okay with the idea that McDonald's supports the war issue.


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: deepblue01 on January 02, 2024, 02:37:29 AM
At first this thing is not look good for McDonald and yet they keep press on supporting zionist regime knowing they will face boycott.
It's funny to see where it goes next although I'm not sure McDonald malaysia will win.


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: Die_empty on January 02, 2024, 11:04:00 AM
are they going to sue individuals for obeying the sanction placed on them by their authorities or they are suing the government for placing a sanction on them that has affected their business negatively?

Every national has the right to make decisions that they feel will protect her citizens and this might include sanction as this and I doubt that the threat to make any sue is a realistic one since ad most nations won't even give an f to it.
This is not a sanction by the government or any of its authorities. Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions is an NGO that spearheaded a campaign against McDonald Malaysia for the firm's support for Israel. This led to the boycott of McDonald's products and caused them to lose some amount of profit. McDonald's is now suing this NGO and is asking for about $1.3 million in damages.

At first this thing is not look good for McDonald and yet they keep press on supporting zionist regime knowing they will face boycott.
It's funny to see where it goes next although I'm not sure McDonald malaysia will win.
I am not a lawyer but I also think the McDonald's has little chance of winning this case. Malaysia has a high population of Muslims and support for Palestine is increasing. Even Malaysian Prime Minister Anwar Ibrahim has openly condemned the bombardment of Gaza by Israel and the country also recently donated about $21m to Gaza. Some court judgments are based on public support, so I doubt if McDonald's will get any support from a Muslim-dominated legal system. 


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: kryptqnick on January 02, 2024, 12:29:49 PM
Wow, suing people who protest your company's political stance is a weird thing to do. I don't know how the judicial system of Malaysia is, but I hope McDonald's loses the lawsuit because boycotting a company over their financial decisions is a normal, democratic thing to do. In my country, it's different with McDonald's because it was one of the earliest major brands to leave Russia after the full-scale invasion, so Ukrainians appreciated it. But I understand that to other people who are more focused on other wars and countries, McDonald's can seem worthy of boycotts.


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: moneystery on January 02, 2024, 12:36:20 PM
it is people's right to voice their opinion about the boycott of israeli products, which mcdonalds is said to include, and mcdonalds cannot protest against this because it is people's freedom of opinion which is protected by law.

but in some cases i also don't agree with these activities that are anti to israeli products, because in my country they seem to persecute people who want to eat or work in restaurants such as mcdonalds, kfc, starbucks, etc. they even fenced off the shops and carried out vandalism.

i'm not against this movement, because it's their right to boycott these products and campaign for it, but to the point of persecuting people and vandalizing these shops is already a crime and it's not worth supporting.


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: Kelward on January 02, 2024, 01:24:25 PM
I just read this news and I can't stop laughing.
McDonald's is said to be planning to sue people who have been refusing to buy its products over the past months leading to their $1.3 million loss. This is due to a boycott movement where people in a lot of countries are sanctioning this company because of its support of the Zionist regime that is occupying Palestine and is committing genocide there.
It is ridiculous because they can actually focus and dedicate the funds that they will use to pursue a court case on rebranded marketing, and other things like giving back to the community, so that they can improve their status and have a good score with community members who already frown at them for supporting the zionist movements.

The situation the company has put themselves should be a lesson to other established brands and company to be careful before showing support or taking sides with any movement or cause. Sometimes as a company or brand, keep your opinions to yourself, neutrality will safe you from some loses that can be made by picking sides.

If MacDonald, actually came out openly to take sides in a war, then that is a very bad business decision, inasmuch as their products is not specifically made for the country that they're supporting, then they should accept whatever consequences that their actions bring. A multinational foodchain company that has branches in every parts of the world and expect people of different believes and preferences to patronize them should not involve in politics, not to talk of taking sides in a war. With all due respect to the owner and management of MacDonald, I think that suing anybody or organization because people don't patronize them can be the dumbest decision that they'll make in this case.


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: pooya87 on January 02, 2024, 01:51:55 PM
How did the group linked this particular Mcdonald's to Israel-Hamas war?
Not this particular one, but McDonald's in general. After all the entire profit goes up the chain to the owners and they use that profit to fund the genocide of Palestinians both directly and indirectly.
The link of companies such as McDonald's to Israel is well known. I covered it a little in the other boycott topic here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5474012.msg63179301#msg63179301

mcdonald franchise licencee's release statement
"we do not support any political motivation. all death and suffering of all humans are bad. we will continue to fund relief efforts of any landscape/location of the citizen victims harmed by actions of their politicians bad decisions"

as long as mcdonalds only fund food supplies to both sides victims of war.. and not supple cattle prods and meat burning materials to militia's of any side. then mcdonalds can escape the problem
haha yeah they'll probably send some supply trucks to Egypt claiming they've sent it to Gaza while those trucks get stuck behind the tall walls (the prison walls surrounding the city/prison called Gaza) in Rafah and then go ahead and pay another $1.3 billion to the Zionist murderers to help the genocide directly!


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: avikz on January 02, 2024, 02:00:10 PM
I just read this news and I can't stop laughing.
McDonald's is said to be planning to sue people who have been refusing to buy its products over the past months leading to their $1.3 million loss. This is due to a boycott movement where people in a lot of countries are sanctioning this company because of its support of the Zionist regime that is occupying Palestine and is committing genocide there.

Imagine if some day you are out and about, suddenly someone wearing a chicken suit puts a gun to your head forcing you to buy their fast food or they'll shoot you :D

Ref: https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2023/12/359864/mcdonalds-malaysia-sues-pro-palestine-activists-over-boycott

McDonald's is probably trying to sue an organized group of people who are constantly trying to put the brand under wrong light. The conflict between Israel and Palestine is unfortunate as common people are getting murdered every single day. But wha a business has to do about it? Just because a brand is owned by a follower of Judaism, doesn't need to be banned or constantly attacked.

This is very same incident where every Muslim people doesn't need to be blamed just because some Muslims are creating issues internationally. That is called generalizing. I think McDonald's is going a little stringent on this incident because they could have used intelligent marketing to bypass this.


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: KingsDen on January 02, 2024, 03:09:21 PM
I just read this news and I can't stop laughing.
McDonald's is said to be planning to sue people who have been refusing to buy its products over the past months leading to their $1.3 million loss. This is due to a boycott movement where people in a lot of countries are sanctioning this company because of its support of the Zionist regime that is occupying Palestine and is committing genocide there.
It is ridiculous because they can actually focus and dedicate the funds that they will use to pursue a court case on rebranded marketing, and other things like giving back to the community, so that they can improve their status and have a good score with community members who already frown at them for supporting the zionist movements.
Maybe, we have to first ask what food company has to do with political supports and alignment. They have to determine if they will continue with food or they will have to join politics. When you declare a public support on controversial issues, you have to be ready for the consequences.

Imagine if some day you are out and about, suddenly someone wearing a chicken suit puts a gun to your head forcing you to buy their fast food or they'll shoot you :D
Are you sure this is not happening somewhere in South Korea?


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: Yogee on January 02, 2024, 03:38:40 PM
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BTW, who is actually will be paying the penalty if Mc Donald's wins this? Government. ;D
Whoever is the defendant. Government can just remove their permit to operate in the region if McDonalds will file a case against them. They are probably not going to sue every individual that's protesting and vandalizing their business establishments but it looks like there's an organized body spearheading the boycott so expect those people to be named in the lawsuit.


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: MFahad on January 02, 2024, 04:37:19 PM
I just read this news and I can't stop laughing.
McDonald's is said to be planning to sue people who have been refusing to buy its products over the past months leading to their $1.3 million loss. This is due to a boycott movement where people in a lot of countries are sanctioning this company because of its support of the Zionist regime that is occupying Palestine and is committing genocide there.

Imagine if some day you are out and about, suddenly someone wearing a chicken suit puts a gun to your head forcing you to buy their fast food or they'll shoot you :D


It's funny, of course, that even a fast food guy can sue people for not buying his stuff.everyone did well by boycotting McDonald's, because he sided with the oppressor rather than the oppressed, and still shows no remorse for what he did.it is everyone's personal choice as to where they buy food.no one can be forced to buy things from McDonald's or any other fast food. Anyway, this is the first time I heard that someone can sue people for not buying their stuff.

However, who will he nominate in this case, because there are many people living and moving around the place where his shop is located, and who can the judge punish in this case? Their loss is very little. i say that such companies should be boycotted in all the countries of the world so that in the future, when supporting the oppressors, they should see this incident as a lesson.


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: |MINER| on January 02, 2024, 05:29:26 PM
This is really funny.  How is that possible lol!  It is the consumer's choice whether to buy a product or not.  Is it possible or who will forcefully buy their company's stuff.  Pro-Palestinians will certainly not buy products that help kill Palestinians.  Now I'm afraid to go out on my street in case the McDonald's guys come and hold a gun to my head and ask me to buy their stuff lol.  I didn't expect such funny behavior from such a reputed company. It's really funny.


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: Twentyonepaylots on January 02, 2024, 05:36:13 PM
Had no idea about this. To be fair, McDonald's Malaysia is suing the BDS Malaysia movement due to financial losses and job cuts which is why it makes sense as to why they are doing this.
Suing people over unsold products would inflict so much damage on their business. I had literally no idea on this, it is my first time seeing a company suing people who are boycotting their product which is part of their customer rights lol. It doesn't make sense at all, if their products or services are being left unsold, then they should know now that something is wrong with their company. People united are indeed more powerful than a company.

I do feel this is unnecessary though considering how rich and powerful they truly are overall.
Or they do want a free exposure on television so people would have second thoughts about them?


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: DrBeer on January 02, 2024, 05:41:23 PM
If you like real information, not fairy tales, you can check by searching for mentions of such information. I warn you right away - you will not find anything similar from this "info-brosa" :). This is just either someone's inept joke, or someone just wants to amuse himself with the "news" that he likes. The reality is quite the opposite, which is to be expected :)

That's the good thing about life, the truth can be verified and confirmed, but lies can't be proven :)


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: kentrolla on January 02, 2024, 05:42:43 PM
Just can't stop laughing as whom will they be suing? It's like you are forcing people to buy your product to fund the massacre and commit genocide but when public refuses to buy your product you wanna sue them? How on earth did they even arrived at this conclusion that it would help them gain back the customers? BDS is working and I think this is the power of humanity wherein people from different religions and races coming together and boycotting the supporter of oppressor.


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: electronicash on January 02, 2024, 05:52:44 PM
If you like real information, not fairy tales, you can check by searching for mentions of such information. I warn you right away - you will not find anything similar from this "info-brosa" :). This is just either someone's inept joke, or someone just wants to amuse himself with the "news" that he likes. The reality is quite the opposite, which is to be expected :)

That's the good thing about life, the truth can be verified and confirmed, but lies can't be proven :)

if it's covered by mass media, it's got to have some grain of truth to it. but it's a wonder why it's only happening in Asian countries, are other parts of the world not mad about the killing in Gaza? 

there is nothing that can be done though, just to joke about it. but if the Muslim community continues to do this and people support that Boycott group, the McDonaals will continue to lose money as well. and facebook will hunt individually the people who support this boycott group.


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: DrBeer on January 02, 2024, 06:43:33 PM
If you like real information, not fairy tales, you can check by searching for mentions of such information. I warn you right away - you will not find anything similar from this "info-brosa" :). This is just either someone's inept joke, or someone just wants to amuse himself with the "news" that he likes. The reality is quite the opposite, which is to be expected :)

That's the good thing about life, the truth can be verified and confirmed, but lies can't be proven :)

if it's covered by mass media, it's got to have some grain of truth to it. but it's a wonder why it's only happening in Asian countries, are other parts of the world not mad about the killing in Gaza? 

there is nothing that can be done though, just to joke about it. but if the Muslim community continues to do this and people support that Boycott group, the McDonaals will continue to lose money as well. and facebook will hunt individually the people who support this boycott group.


He understands what's going on. There is some truth in TRUE information. But fakes and propaganda have a completely different purpose. In this case, this is an ordinary stuffing, to create the appearance of “victory over McDonald’s and their idiotic capitalist grin.” He will remember - “the more monstrous the lie, the more willingly they will believe it” (c) Hitler, whose empire was built on lies and propaganda. So it is in this case. It’s just that you are now trying to turn a fake into “reality”, because this “news” appeals to you, although you understand that this is absolutely stupid, in fact, information material.



Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: pooya87 on January 02, 2024, 07:21:32 PM
but it's a wonder why it's only happening in Asian countries, are other parts of the world not mad about the killing in Gaza? 
The news about the Genocide in Gaza is heavily censored outside Asia so it is understandable to not see as much anger toward the terrorists that are killing Palestinians these days in the West. Although I have to see the number of protests in US and Europe against Israel is increasing very fast.

to create the appearance of “victory over McDonald’s and their idiotic capitalist grin.”
Your brain has been washed so many times that it is very concerning how you think these days! :D
If you wanted to think $1.3 million lost revenues is "defeating" a $200 billion company, that's your choice but don't stick it to me :D

What events like this are doing is discouraging such companies from openly and largely supporting terrorist organizations such as Israel. They'll be forced to decrease their support, some even stop it or take it underground and through proxies that would make it harder to get the funds to the terrorists and increases the cost significantly which all translates into less bombs to murder women and children.
Of course Zionists don't think that is a "victory" so I understand how you feel. ;)


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: el kaka22 on January 02, 2024, 07:28:54 PM
They are not "suing people because people are not buying their products", that is a false statement and that is what they are suing people over as well, that's the difference. You can just go ahead and not buy from them, that is nothing wrong and you are free to do that, it's the defamation that they are suing against, saying that they are supporting Israel when Malaysian McDonalds may not (which is what they claim) is the problem.

Not buying a burger from them is fine and they can't sue you for that obviously, you know this, OP is very well aware, but saying "you are supporting Israel" when they are not, is a lie, and a company could definitely sue someone for lying, and this lie made them lose 1.3 million, so of course they would take action against a lie that made them lose money. There is nothing wrong with that, it should be done, if any group of people end up lying about anything, the organizations or companies who is lied about, could open defamation case against them.


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: topbitcoin on January 02, 2024, 08:58:26 PM

This is my screenshot... from one of the Twitter X social media users who shared a post regarding Joy Biden's response to the ongoing call for a boycott...
It could be that this is what makes them not return to buying the products they have boycotted. They were quite hurt by these words... because these words were truly cruel and inhumane...

It is true that if you look at previous events... this call for a boycott did not have a serious impact on pro-Israel companies, because in the end they returned to buying and using the products they boycotted... but the call for a boycott this time is truly extraordinary . where, several countries and organizations defending Palestinian independence united to join in boycotting pro-Israel products. So the impact it gives is not even a joke.... Products that are pro-Israel suffer quite significant losses.

And now I'm just laughing out loud... that those who have always been arrogant... now have to keep barking at the market to get them to buy their products, to the point of filing a lawsuit.


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: Fatunad on January 02, 2024, 09:34:32 PM
Funny but this loss is a serious hit on them. Now, this is a lesson for most of the companies and businesses that there is power with the people when we are all united.

Before, it was like that they are asking and pleasing people to work for them. This time, it is all about boycotting and they cannot do anything with the voice of the people.

I guess that soon they are going to make efforts for getting their customers trust back through various promos and discounts.
And that wont really be an easy thing specially once that trust and confidence had been affected or simply being that destroyed then getting it back to original wouldnt really be that too easy.
This is why it would really be that not shocking that it would really be a huge loss to them. I cant really just that make myself believe about the suing part. I did really just told to myself while reading.
Wait? What? Totally true when it comes that if people would be making out their voice and having that unity and ending up on boycotting a certain product or company or whatsoever
then there's nothing they can do.. As a business, if there's no one would really be able to buy up those foods and services then you would really be fucked up.

Wondering on how they would really be starting up but well its their problem to take. It is really just that stressful if you are the ones who had been bothered
into their situation. lol


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: pooya87 on January 03, 2024, 04:09:53 AM
but saying "you are supporting Israel" when they are not, is a lie, and a company could definitely sue someone for lying,
Well that's just not true, specially about McDonald's. If it were some other company that hides its support, maybe you could call it a lie but in this case it is like general knowledge.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5474012.msg63179301#msg63179301


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on January 03, 2024, 08:51:36 AM
I always asked myself the question: Why do people, knowing that fast food is harmful to health, continue to buy it? And now this “killer” and assistant to obesity complains that people refuse to kill themselves.
Take away the politics and just think that the plan to reduce humanity works in the form of trans fats, and then visit pharmacies to buy “medicines” that are systematically created so that you and I will become stupid consumers of fast food with an inability to understand the idea of turning people into pigs who eat everything, including GMOs.


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: DrBeer on January 03, 2024, 02:01:47 PM
to create the appearance of “victory over McDonald’s and their idiotic capitalist grin.”
Your brain has been washed so many times that it is very concerning how you think these days! :D
If you wanted to think $1.3 million lost revenues is "defeating" a $200 billion company, that's your choice but don't stick it to me :D

What events like this are doing is discouraging such companies from openly and largely supporting terrorist organizations such as Israel. They'll be forced to decrease their support, some even stop it or take it underground and through proxies that would make it harder to get the funds to the terrorists and increases the cost significantly which all translates into less bombs to murder women and children.
Of course Zionists don't think that is a "victory" so I understand how you feel. ;)


Do you have any arguments in favor of the statement about “brainwashing”, other than your painful fantasies, with which you are trying to somehow justify your obviously false stuff? :)
Understand - by throwing in a LIE and trying to justify it, you look like a completely brainwashed person, because... an outright lie that contradicts logic, this is an instrument of propaganda, for people with a not very high level of development :)

Regarding Israel as a terrorist - please give a description of what terrorism means? Let's discuss this too, let's see what happens with "brainwashing"  ;D



Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: tbterryboy on January 03, 2024, 05:52:53 PM
This is hilarious, no doubt about that. I believe a lot of companies will follow them in this movement because there are a lot of them who have shown support to Israel instead of condemning the genocide and people from all over the world are boycotting thousands of products from hundreds of different companies and brands. However, they can't do anything other than to make a joke out of themselves by doing this and making people realize that their efforts are not going wasted and they are affected by this.

These companies didn't know what could happen to them and they didn't know there was going to be such a thing happening. Otherwise, I'm pretty sure they would have a neutral stance over the situation which wouldn't affect them financially. Well, what can be said, it is what it is. They can't do anything now, even promos and discounts won't be able to revive the trust of the customers very soon.


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: Cryptomultiplier on January 03, 2024, 08:55:20 PM
Am sure that it is only those who have money or look rich that they may try to coerce into buying a product that isn't needed at the moment, because pointing a gun to a street beggar or urchin would simply just save them the pain of living they are already faced with.

Still, this story is bizarre and it is all the more reason why many businesses and leaders choose to stay silent or pretend not to notice such happenings as concerns the Zionist war even though it may affect them indirectly.


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: oktana on January 03, 2024, 09:00:19 PM
I just read this news and I can't stop laughing.
McDonald's is said to be planning to sue people who have been refusing to buy its products over the past months leading to their $1.3 million loss. This is due to a boycott movement where people in a lot of countries are sanctioning this company because of its support of the Zionist regime that is occupying Palestine and is committing genocide there.

Imagine if some day you are out and about, suddenly someone wearing a chicken suit puts a gun to your head forcing you to buy their fast food or they'll shoot you :D

Ref: https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2023/12/359864/mcdonalds-malaysia-sues-pro-palestine-activists-over-boycott
They aren't suing people who refuse to buy their product, they are suing the organization that does anti-advertisement of McDonalds. Since BDS Malaysia is doing that, a counterattack is expected from McDonalds because it's a business and they lose money.
To be fair, people shouldn't be eating McDonalds, it's very bad for their health because their junk food significantly increases the risk of diabetes, heart disease, stroke and obesity. If we were living in a good world, McDonalds and other types of fast food would be banned because they do more harm than good.



I got confused because reading the news, it doesn’t say that the issues is between McDonalds and its customers but with the BDS Malaysian movement. And I read someone saying that they have a lot of money and shouldn’t be suing, but it’s business. Sometimes it isn’t even about the money, it about showing that you have power. From what I understand, BDS is denying the allegation already.

Regarding the dangers of eating their food, I think the problem is that people consume too much of it. There’s nothing that won’t be dangerous if consumed in excess. Instead of banning such food, they can maybe place a limit, the government.


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: Ryu_Ar1 on January 03, 2024, 09:36:22 PM
Just can't stop laughing as whom will they be suing? It's like you are forcing people to buy your product to fund the massacre and commit genocide but when public refuses to buy your product you wanna sue them? How on earth did they even arrived at this conclusion that it would help them gain back the customers? BDS is working and I think this is the power of humanity wherein people from different religions and races coming together and boycotting the supporter of oppressor.
Apart from the first reason when there is a boycott that makes them struggle at the moment but indeed suing consumers is really the worst way to increase their sales I guess :D
I don't want to get into what happened about the war issue that started the current boycott but McDonald's reasoning for suing is ridiculous and won't have any impact because at the end of the day will they try to prosecute people in all countries because it's not just 1 or 2 countries that are doing it but a lot of countries are doing the same thing and it's not the control of the government or McDonald's either because it's a unified movement of ordinary people for reasons that we already know without mentioning.
If that's the case I guess I should also be prepared to face charges even though I can't do anything lol.


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: Darker45 on January 04, 2024, 01:17:49 AM
I think it's oversimplifying or perhaps even misinterpreting the legal case. The case filed wasn't against "people who have been refusing to buy its products"; it's against a group that was supposed to spread "false and defamatory statements" in public against the fast-food chain.

So, McDonald's isn't forcing anybody to buy its products. It's perfectly all right not to eat at McDonald's, but it certainly isn't all right for anybody to publicly spread false rumors and baseless insinuations against McDonald's, and any business establishment for that matter.


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: pooya87 on January 04, 2024, 02:23:50 PM
Sometimes it isn’t even about the money, it about showing that you have power.
This is a very good point you raised here. They're not used to not getting their way which is why they are trying to show some form of reaction and at the very least appear to have all the power!

I think it's oversimplifying or perhaps even misinterpreting the legal case. The case filed wasn't against "people who have been refusing to buy its products"; it's against a group that was supposed to spread "false and defamatory statements" in public against the fast-food chain.
Yes and no! You can't sue regular people, obviously. So they have to find a representative to sue, a group or an organization, in other words something centralized or a door that they can kick down.
In this sense this is like Bitcoin, they can't ban Bitcoin or they can't prevent regular users from using it but they can kick down the door of anything centralized like CEX or even mining pools and exert their power there.
But the nature of the act is the same, it is "banning Bitcoin" or it is "suing the people who refuse to consume their products".


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: DrBeer on January 04, 2024, 02:50:25 PM
If you like real information, not fairy tales, you can check by searching for mentions of such information. I warn you right away - you will not find anything similar from this "info-brosa" :). This is just either someone's inept joke, or someone just wants to amuse himself with the "news" that he likes. The reality is quite the opposite, which is to be expected :)

That's the good thing about life, the truth can be verified and confirmed, but lies can't be proven :)

if it's covered by mass media, it's got to have some grain of truth to it. but it's a wonder why it's only happening in Asian countries, are other parts of the world not mad about the killing in Gaza? 

there is nothing that can be done though, just to joke about it. but if the Muslim community continues to do this and people support that Boycott group, the McDonaals will continue to lose money as well. and facebook will hunt individually the people who support this boycott group.

There is such a word - PRAGANDA, and corrupt journalists. They can write anything that is stolen. For example, Russian and pro-Russian media reported a terrorist attack on Ukraine as an “internal conflict in Ukraine.” Then it is true that Putin himself, an international criminal, openly declared, when he saw the passivity of the West, and some success, that this was a pre-planned operation to occupy foreign territory.

If we return to the topic of the topic, then this information does not even reach the level of lesser quality propaganda. Popularly, articles of such “quality” are called “throwing crap at the fan” :) It is created exclusively for “neuromasturbation” - they say, “that’s how powerful we are, that even the pathetic McDonald’s was brought to its knees, that it is forced to do such wild things “You see how inadequate the West is!” :)


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: pooya87 on January 04, 2024, 03:02:33 PM
For example, Russian and pro-Russian media reported a terrorist attack on Ukraine as an “internal conflict in Ukraine.”
Regarding Israel as a terrorist - please give a description of what terrorism means?
This has to be your personal record of the shortest distance between your double standards :D


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: Latviand on January 04, 2024, 03:57:24 PM
You should also add that Starbucks is also experiencing billions of dollars of loss because they're being exposed for bad employers and supporting Israel which isn't loved by anyone that's seeing the stories right now about the Israel's eradication of Palestine. They're getting desperate too, they keep on running a lot of ads and hiring people that are fitting a stereotypical criteria so they can help with their campaign that they're not excluding any ethnicity or race in their shops, they even do desperate promotions like free hot chocolate at a certain day of the week and considering how they're salvaging the brand, didn't know that McDonald's would take the top spot right in terms of desperation for money.


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: oktana on January 04, 2024, 08:47:57 PM
Sometimes it isn’t even about the money, it about showing that you have power.
This is a very good point you raised here. They're not used to not getting their way which is why they are trying to show some form of reaction and at the very least appear to have all the power!
Right. And to show that it’s working, BDS is denying the accusations already. If McDonalds didn’t sue them, it is possible that they can take it too far and rub it in their face like they can’t do anything, and people will think so too.


You should also add that Starbucks is also experiencing billions of dollars of loss because they're being exposed for bad employers and supporting Israel which isn't loved by anyone that's seeing the stories right now about the Israel's eradication of Palestine. They're getting desperate too, they keep on running a lot of ads and hiring people that are fitting a stereotypical criteria so they can help with their campaign that they're not excluding any ethnicity or race in their shops, they even do desperate promotions like free hot chocolate at a certain day of the week and considering how they're salvaging the brand, didn't know that McDonald's would take the top spot right in terms of desperation for money.

This is a really interesting stuff but billions of dollars? I don’t think that’s true. I mean you need to understand the amount of money that you’re talking about 1,000 million makes a billion and you are saying that they have had loss of billions of dollars. Not even McDonald’s has had such loss because they are apparently suing these guys for not up to $2 million. I think you need to check your source cause that’s just too much money.


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: johnsaributua on January 04, 2024, 11:29:09 PM
The effect of the boycott movement is now an attempt to attack back from entrepreneurs ???, I feel how much the reputation that has been built for decades, and the budget for advertising has consumed a budget of perhaps millions of dollars, and turnover has decreased. Meanwhile, employees, operational and retail costs must be paid every month. This is a complicated condition when viewed from a business perspective.

If the effort at gunpoint is too much, but if you can provide clarification about not being involved in the conflict, being neutral and professional, of course the market segment will not be all allergic even though there are those who don't care about all of that, what I know is that there is a boycott statement for companies that are accused of being silent and continuing their business without making efforts, maybe on their social media CMIIW.

It's only now that I've seen the quite remarkable effects of a conflict between two countries but it has led to a lot of business, even though it may be a few blocks away.

Consumers only need clarity, the fact is that almost all of the alleged products are often consumed and well-known. If it is an invitation from the community, friends, let alone family to consume a product or restaurant, it is difficult to say no, because most people like to be together.


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: Mr.right85 on January 04, 2024, 11:37:02 PM
Ref: https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2023/12/359864/mcdonalds-malaysia-sues-pro-palestine-activists-over-boycott
Quote
In response, BDS Malaysia refuted the claims of defamation against the franchise, adding that they leave the matter to the court for resolution.
When the sue is based on the ideas in quote, defamation of brand, it just might seem reasonable but, over lose or patronage, well, they hope to get some compensation for what is been lost but still, this doesn’t solve the issue. It clearly wouldn’t make people buy a McDonalds neither will it end the war between Israel and Palestine.
If this is a necessary step to anchor and ensure some peace resolution, then it’s a step in the right direction but, I feel McDonalds shouldn’t try to come at the boycott that way. Perhaps a campaign on how they are not linked with any form of support or financing of the wars would have been some means to an end but, Israeli products aren’t very cherished around the world now, especially for muslim communities.


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: Darker45 on January 05, 2024, 12:57:06 AM
I think it's oversimplifying or perhaps even misinterpreting the legal case. The case filed wasn't against "people who have been refusing to buy its products"; it's against a group that was supposed to spread "false and defamatory statements" in public against the fast-food chain.
Yes and no! You can't sue regular people, obviously. So they have to find a representative to sue, a group or an organization, in other words something centralized or a door that they can kick down.
In this sense this is like Bitcoin, they can't ban Bitcoin or they can't prevent regular users from using it but they can kick down the door of anything centralized like CEX or even mining pools and exert their power there.
But the nature of the act is the same, it is "banning Bitcoin" or it is "suing the people who refuse to consume their products".

The case is basically defamation. And this can be filed against individuals or groups. Anybody, regular people or not, can be sued for committing defamation. Defamation is a crime.

I'm interested how this case would turn out. While this could probably end in a negotiation or a settlement, I believe it would heavily favor the company provided the crime was indeed committed.

I don't think the comparison between Bitcoin and the company is valid. 


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: alastantiger on January 05, 2024, 03:16:20 AM
McDonald's is said to be planning to sue people who have been refusing to buy its products over the past months leading to their $1.3 million loss. This is due to a boycott movement where people in a lot of countries are sanctioning this company because of its support of the Zionist regime that is occupying Palestine and is committing genocide there.
This is nothing but a very crazy joke.
Why are they doing this ? Some silly PR or what? It is bad for the company's image. Will suing people in anyway put an end to their losses? How does this even make any sense to the company's legal team and their communications department.  McDonald’s would be better off donating money to Palestinians to make people change their minds. Suing the boycott movement will only make it stronger. They will not just lose the suit but will lose plenty of their customers too.


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: pinggoki on January 05, 2024, 03:43:30 AM
I have been told by many Israel supporters that these kind of Boycott is useless and has no effect at all, to the company or to Israel, but turns out it make some impact. Moreover, who will be sued for doing the BDS, it is a decentralized collective movement, no one is paying for those people to stop or boycotting any product, most of them aren't even encouraging/discouraging people to do the BDS, people are just stating that they are boycotting some products. That will be a very tough case to be brought into court.
They're blinded by what they stand for so that's what they're going to say to you, that it's a useless thing. Another example of this boycott becoming successful is the Montgomery Bus boycott, that's probably a history shaping boycott because it was one of those times when something our society was trying to improve upon was being violated or being tolerated which is racism. To those people that don't believe that boycotts don't work when it comes to trying to send a message about how evil or disgusting a company is, just tell them to search for the boycotts that have changed history or successful boycotts in history and have them see their brains lag as they try to comprehend their stance that it will never work. People like that are the funniest to look at whenever that happens to them.


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: pooya87 on January 05, 2024, 07:20:52 AM
This is a really interesting stuff but billions of dollars? I don’t think that’s true. I mean you need to understand the amount of money that you’re talking about 1,000 million makes a billion and you are saying that they have had loss of billions of dollars. Not even McDonald’s has had such loss because they are apparently suing these guys for not up to $2 million. I think you need to check your source cause that’s just too much money.
What you are talking about is the revenue loss which is in the millions of dollars as the articles say and the suing amount is in that range.

But I believe what @Latviand is talking about is the total market valuation of these companies that has gotten dumped as their stock crashed. For example Starbucks shares has gotten dumped about 13% ever since November and that kind of dump in a hundred-billion dollar company is billions of dollars loss ($106 billion Starbucks and $211 billion McDonald's market cap).

My opinion is that even though this is also a decent indication of the effects of boycotts on these companies but it is not the most solid one because there are lots of other things affecting the stock market.
For example SBUX has been dumping ever since April 2023 since the company is struggling with a lot of other issues; so this latest 13% dump could be the continuation of that same dump with boycotts being a secondary effect that may have intensified the dump.
On the other hand when we look at MCD we see that it has got pumped in the same period which proves that this is not the most solid indicator to use.


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: Iroh on January 05, 2024, 08:11:51 AM
Read through the article provided and the company isn’t exactly suing people for refusing to buy their products(I think such a lawsuit would be absurd).
I think this shows again how the collective efforts of humans having one mindset can go a long way. McDonald’s has a net worth of $212 billion so a $1.3 million loss may look like a negligible amount but it did get them riled up enough to make a move against the pressure groups that’s hindering their profits.

I wouldn’t fault people for not buying from companies that donates to a country that’s trying to crush their enemies and indiscriminately killing scores of innocent people in the process.


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: demonica on January 05, 2024, 01:38:33 PM
I just read this news and I can't stop laughing.
McDonald's is said to be planning to sue people who have been refusing to buy its products over the past months leading to their $1.3 million loss. This is due to a boycott movement where people in a lot of countries are sanctioning this company because of its support of the Zionist regime that is occupying Palestine and is committing genocide there.

Imagine if some day you are out and about, suddenly someone wearing a chicken suit puts a gun to your head forcing you to buy their fast food or they'll shoot you :D

Ref: https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2023/12/359864/mcdonalds-malaysia-sues-pro-palestine-activists-over-boycott
I can't access the link but upon searching about this news, I get where they are coming. It's not really about them suing people who refuses to buy from them. McDonald's are suing for defamation where people are agreeing to boycott them because of the issue between Israel and Palestine. I get that they are a business, and of course the boycott movement has been spreading in social media. We all are aware how fast things can spread when it comes to social media and it's affecting their profit, especially to muslim countries. They want to sue people spreading news or info online, and probably those who's urging others to boycott McDonald's, which causes a huge damage to their image and business.

But on the other hand, I also understand the people spreading the campaign. That's why it's really important for businesses to build and maintain a great image, character, and their values since social media is so powerful when it comes to cancel culture.


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: DrBeer on January 05, 2024, 01:55:06 PM
For example, Russian and pro-Russian media reported a terrorist attack on Ukraine as an “internal conflict in Ukraine.”
Regarding Israel as a terrorist - please give a description of what terrorism means?
This has to be your personal record of the shortest distance between your double standards :D

I take it your brain is a lot worse than the propaganda-washed ones :))))

I'm writing to you
- Russia, having committed a terrorist attack, passes it off through propaganda as an alleged "internal conflict in Ukraine".
- You call Israel a terrorist country, I ask you to give a description of the word "torrorism" and you...  act like you have no brain and accuse me of double standards  ;D ;D ;D
I realize that to a propaganda-washed person, to answer my questions honestly is almost "information suicide", and you proved it perfectly !  ;D


Returning to the topic - and dear participants who support the boycott of such companies as Starbucks, McDonald's - do you happen to know the word "franchise" ? :)



Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: tjtonmoy on January 05, 2024, 06:43:49 PM
I just read this news and I can't stop laughing.
McDonald's is said to be planning to sue people who have been refusing to buy its products over the past months leading to their $1.3 million loss. This is due to a boycott movement where people in a lot of countries are sanctioning this company because of its support of the Zionist regime that is occupying Palestine and is committing genocide there.

Imagine if some day you are out and about, suddenly someone wearing a chicken suit puts a gun to your head forcing you to buy their fast food or they'll shoot you :D

Ref: https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2023/12/359864/mcdonalds-malaysia-sues-pro-palestine-activists-over-boycott

Ahhhhhh..... Had a good laugh. Really though? What are they even thinking? How did went the other way around? I have heard consumers suing companies but not they have turned the table. LOL.
I am not biased about supporting any country in this war but all I want to say is that war is bad. Only the innocents suffer in that conflict. Those products having a connection to something has nothing to do with this. If the product is produced in your country and as consumers, you are banning the use of that product, you are harming your own country's economy.
It is also not right to force people to use that product late alone sue them. It's their own choice. How foolish are they suing the very people helped them to become what they are today? This is just pure stupidity.


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: EluguHcman on January 05, 2024, 08:48:27 PM
He might not be acting out of his mind even though the expression sounded funny.
I can say that I insights expressive lawful backup threats by the McDonald towards an individuals and some organizations which they are bidded with a lawful agreement on a concept about his products patronages within his binded circles which the chain of their agreement may have been boycotted by sentimental bridges of disagreements that has caused him such lost.

Imagine if some day you are out and about, suddenly someone wearing a chicken suit puts a gun to your head forcing you to buy their fast food or they'll shoot you :D
Life is not duplicated so I would humbly abide to the gun holders will after all it is just of something money can afford and not of my life that even the whole treasures in the world can not afford.


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: Funke on January 05, 2024, 09:39:24 PM
Though it is funny but, is there no stipulation of consumers right in the world.

The company should take better investment decisions that will positively affect the business. The worst thing for any business is taking sides in a conflict or sponsoring conflict.

For instance, a Nigerian super star Naira Marley thought with his wealth and influence, he could sponsor bullying as it was evidence in video clips then go free.

He has released a new album but, Nigeria's refuse to stream his new song thereby leading to the fall out of the song in all the lists or charts.

This is a great loss for him for wrong decision making without regarding his business.


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: oktana on January 05, 2024, 11:34:09 PM
This is a really interesting stuff but billions of dollars? I don’t think that’s true. I mean you need to understand the amount of money that you’re talking about 1,000 million makes a billion and you are saying that they have had loss of billions of dollars. Not even McDonald’s has had such loss because they are apparently suing these guys for not up to $2 million. I think you need to check your source cause that’s just too much money.
What you are talking about is the revenue loss which is in the millions of dollars as the articles say and the suing amount is in that range.

But I believe what @Latviand is talking about is the total market valuation of these companies that has gotten dumped as their stock crashed. For example Starbucks shares has gotten dumped about 13% ever since November and that kind of dump in a hundred-billion dollar company is billions of dollars loss ($106 billion Starbucks and $211 billion McDonald's market cap).

My opinion is that even though this is also a decent indication of the effects of boycotts on these companies but it is not the most solid one because there are lots of other things affecting the stock market.
For example SBUX has been dumping ever since April 2023 since the company is struggling with a lot of other issues; so this latest 13% dump could be the continuation of that same dump with boycotts being a secondary effect that may have intensified the dump.
On the other hand when we look at MCD we see that it has got pumped in the same period which proves that this is not the most solid indicator to use.

Are you sure the statistics of $211 Billion is correct? Because we are talking about Malaysia here. I checked how many McDonald’s that there are and I saw up to 40,275 in number. Understand that the market cap is shared amongst all countries and each stores respectively. So, what then is the value of McDonald Malaysia? Because that’s how we’ll get to know. I know you may want to say that it’s news and could have affected other branches across the world, well, I don’t think it’s been that impactful in other places because the news (that I’ve seen) is just talking about them taking legal action in Malaysia, which I believe is where it actually went bad.


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: pooya87 on January 06, 2024, 07:45:30 AM
Are you sure the statistics of $211 Billion is correct? Because we are talking about Malaysia here.
Well McDonald's is a franchise and the central corporation owns all the rights to a lot of things involved in each of the branches and all the revenue and a losses are also going up the stream to the main corporation; so I used the company's market cap not how much the sub-branch is worth.

I know you may want to say that it’s news and could have affected other branches across the world, well, I don’t think it’s been that impactful in other places because the news (that I’ve seen) is just talking about them taking legal action in Malaysia, which I believe is where it actually went bad.
In my opinion, the corporation has just found someone to hit back inside Malaysia and in the future they may try it elsewhere too specially considering that this article claims it is much bigger than just being in Malaysia. For example it says there is a 70% drop of sales in Egypt which is a pretty significant dump.
https://www.newarab.com/news/mcdonalds-ceo-says-gaza-boycott-campaign-hurting-mena-sales


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: DrBeer on January 07, 2024, 12:16:38 PM
Though it is funny but, is there no stipulation of consumers right in the world.

The company should take better investment decisions that will positively affect the business. The worst thing for any business is taking sides in a conflict or sponsoring conflict.

For instance, a Nigerian super star Naira Marley thought with his wealth and influence, he could sponsor bullying as it was evidence in video clips then go free.

He has released a new album but, Nigeria's refuse to stream his new song thereby leading to the fall out of the song in all the lists or charts.

This is a great loss for him for wrong decision making without regarding his business.

It's just a fake, you can just laugh :)


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: Zanab247 on February 01, 2024, 11:03:46 AM
If the company go ahead to sue buyers because they are not buying their products in the court of law, they will lose in that case in the court of law because, there is a law that guide the customers that they are always right to make their decision on any kind of product they want to buy in the market.

But if am in the same shoe with the company, I will Carry out some investigation to know why people are not buying the company product before I will know the next action to take whether to sue the manager of the company for not using the right raw materials to produce the quality products because, we have seen some cases like this where manager is not doing the right thing but telling lies to the shareholders.


Title: Re: First time? A company suing because people aren't buying its products!!!
Post by: boty on February 02, 2024, 02:35:54 AM
If the company go ahead to sue buyers because they are not buying their products in the court of law, they will lose in that case in the court of law because, there is a law that guide the customers that they are always right to make their decision on any kind of product they want to buy in the market.

But if am in the same shoe with the company, I will Carry out some investigation to know why people are not buying the company product before I will know the next action to take whether to sue the manager of the company for not using the right raw materials to produce the quality products because, we have seen some cases like this where manager is not doing the right thing but telling lies to the shareholders.
Those who have products certainly understand the quality of the goods they produce and if the product they are offering does not attract interest from consumers, of course the product they have has a problem that makes other people dislike it, this could be the quality of the product they are offering at a price that is not according to the quality of the products they have.

Yes, of course the company must be able to ascertain why the product they are offering is not of interest to the public, whether it is an error in the field of production or inappropriate marketing, making it difficult for the public to buy the product that has been offered, because if they are forced to have it, it will certainly be very detrimental to them. themselves and also their money because they have bought a product that is not good.