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Title: Do you believe in "Enhanced RTP" in some slots?
Post by: Kakmakr on January 03, 2024, 05:55:42 AM
I see some slot providers are offering slot games with "enhanced RTP" or even a option to increase the bet amount to increase the chances of you hitting the FREE spin feature.

Do you actually believe that this is a real feature and that it does give you a higher chance to win? I think it might be real, but it is insignificantly higher than your normal RTP. ( 0.5% to 1% better )

Have you played these games and have you seen any difference in your win percentage?


Title: Re: Do you believe in "Enhanced RTP" in some slots?
Post by: cafter on January 03, 2024, 07:03:06 AM
I mostly play games which i already know, means I try new games very less of the time.
If my favorite game have enhanced RTP then I will play that game, if not then too i play that game. but playing these games I didn't have seen any effect on my winnings like winning more or like this.
also the difference of 1-2 percent doesn't change the odd of me winning more in 100-200 spins. I maybe be profitable in millions of spins. but i didn't won much in those games.


Title: Re: Do you believe in "Enhanced RTP" in some slots?
Post by: Bitinity on January 03, 2024, 07:33:17 AM
I see some slot providers are offering slot games with "enhanced RTP" or even a option to increase the bet amount to increase the chances of you hitting the FREE spin feature.

Do you actually believe that this is a real feature and that it does give you a higher chance to win? I think it might be real, but it is insignificantly higher than your normal RTP. ( 0.5% to 1% better )

Have you played these games and have you seen any difference in your win percentage?

I believe you are referring to games provided by Pragmatic such as Gates of Heaven, Slushie Party, Jewel Bonanza etc. As long as I know this enhanced version is available on specific casino only, it is like a game created by Pragmatic in their exclusive collaboration with a specific casino. I guess only those who are playing in the specific casino knows about these enhanced game. I've played most of them and frankly speaking I do not see a big difference in terms of my result. I can even say that the original version gave me better luck. Gates of Olympus for example, I hit max win in this game more than 5x since I played it but I have not hit more than 1000x in Gates of Heaven. The same for Fruit Party, I hit max win like 2-3x but no big win on Slushie Party.


Title: Re: Do you believe in "Enhanced RTP" in some slots?
Post by: Tytanowy Janusz on January 03, 2024, 08:41:57 AM
I see some slot providers are offering slot games with "enhanced RTP" or even a option to increase the bet amount to increase the chances of you hitting the FREE spin feature.

Do you actually believe that this is a real feature and that it does give you a higher chance to win? I think it might be real, but it is insignificantly higher than your normal RTP. ( 0.5% to 1% better )

Have you played these games and have you seen any difference in your win percentage?

I don't trust anything the casino promises unless it is supported by a 'provably fair' mechanism and only after checking it on several examples. If there is no evidence that some games have overclocked RTP, and it is not experimentally verifiable, then there is no reason for me to trust that the casino is so good-natured that it will keep its promise, especially when everyone is lying. All you have to do is look at the supplement or food market to see that for corporations, profit optimization is more important than the truth or even the customer's health.



Title: Re: Do you believe in "Enhanced RTP" in some slots?
Post by: Don Pedro Dinero on January 03, 2024, 09:07:57 AM
Do you actually believe that this is a real feature and that it does give you a higher chance to win? I think it might be real, but it is insignificantly higher than your normal RTP. ( 0.5% to 1% better )

In general I don't pay attention to offers like that because what they do is look for their profitability, the casino's, and if they give you something else, like a bonus, or in this case a higher RTP, it's because they require something in return, like betting more. If they require you to wager 30% more to get half a percentage point more, it's not going to be more profitable for you, it's going to be more profitable for them.


Title: Re: Do you believe in "Enhanced RTP" in some slots?
Post by: michellee on January 03, 2024, 09:44:37 AM
I only believe what I see when playing slots. I also rarely pay attention to the RTP of each slot game. Maybe there is an increased RTP, but I don't know. I've never had a big win from a slot game.

But even if you play slot games with various RTPs, you must have luck to win. This slot game is challenging to play, especially the newly released one. Many gamblers are interested in playing new slot games. But still, they need luck to win.

So it's better to enjoy the slot game. Don't think about getting a win every time you play slots because it depends on your luck.


Title: Re: Do you believe in "Enhanced RTP" in some slots?
Post by: Text on January 03, 2024, 10:34:34 AM
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Have you played these games and have you seen any difference in your win percentage?
Maybe some believe it’s a genuine feature that improves the chances of winning, but I see it as more of a marketing strategy. Slots are designed to be games of chance; the house always has an edge. Luck plays a significant role in slot outcomes. I can’t remember if I have played these specific games myself; perhaps yes, I often used to play Pragmatic's games on Duelbits, Roobet, and Stake, but there's no difference or change in the win percentage. Luck still doesn't favor me in the end.


Title: Re: Do you believe in "Enhanced RTP" in some slots?
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on January 03, 2024, 10:44:51 AM

Have you played these games and have you seen any difference in your win percentage?
I've played slot games with normal RTP and ones wit the supposedly enhanced RTP as well, and honestly, I didn't see any much of a difference, and at some point, I did feel that the whole enhanced RTP claim or ideal is simply for marketing purposes and not like the game in question has or indeed gives the players a better chance of winning.

But on the other hand though, that is, based on my personal experience which I already shared a part of it above, it could also be that the enhanced RTP is indeed real, but me Seeing no difference between the normal and enhanced RTP games could simply be as a result of me being unlucky, this is very possible.

But overall enhanced RTP or not, the fact remains that slot games are designed in a way or manner that the house will always win in the long run, and it doesn't matter how much one win at the beginning, in the long run, the house will always win.


Title: Re: Do you believe in "Enhanced RTP" in some slots?
Post by: bitbollo on January 03, 2024, 10:47:11 AM
I don't think it's a discussion of probably fair but more of a discussion related to statistics and probability.
 I don't think the difference between 0.5% and 1% probability can be "perceived" by players, since millions of plays would be needed to be play. In any case we are always talking about a small difference that could be just "random".


Title: Re: Do you believe in "Enhanced RTP" in some slots?
Post by: Maus0728 on January 03, 2024, 10:52:42 AM
I do believe in them and I don't think that they matter whether we think they exist or not because the point of the enhanced RTP is to attract players to play more slots so they can make more money out of the gamblers, that's the point of the enhanced RTP or any kind of improvement in gambling, to make players spend more to get the bonuses and certain rewards for the day, there's a reason some give a daily free spins on their slots right? And we all know it's not out of the goodness of their hearts that they do it.


Title: Re: Do you believe in "Enhanced RTP" in some slots?
Post by: ryzaadit on January 03, 2024, 11:14:43 AM
I still believe that (Increase the bet) increases the chance of hitting the bonus. IMO, these can be seen by how often the scatter is showing on your normal spin. You can compare these by turning on/off the increase hitting bonus. For Enhance RTP, I don't hope to much on these because from my perspective playing with Enhance RTP with 98% just a same like 96%. All still on the luck section.


Title: Re: Do you believe in "Enhanced RTP" in some slots?
Post by: gunhell16 on January 03, 2024, 11:41:39 AM
I see some slot providers are offering slot games with "enhanced RTP" or even a option to increase the bet amount to increase the chances of you hitting the FREE spin feature.

Do you actually believe that this is a real feature and that it does give you a higher chance to win? I think it might be real, but it is insignificantly higher than your normal RTP. ( 0.5% to 1% better )

Have you played these games and have you seen any difference in your win percentage?

I don't believe that; as long as I can gamble, it's okay with me. Although I have read that when we choose a high percentage, the chances of winning with a game provider are also high. But in my experience, that's not what really happens in real gambling.

But the other players believe in that concept. But for me, I don't really notice that. Of course, if you just want to play and have fun, there is nothing like that that you will find in a casino gambling platform.


Title: Re: Do you believe in "Enhanced RTP" in some slots?
Post by: Synchronice on January 03, 2024, 12:00:38 PM
I see some slot providers are offering slot games with "enhanced RTP" or even a option to increase the bet amount to increase the chances of you hitting the FREE spin feature.

Do you actually believe that this is a real feature and that it does give you a higher chance to win? I think it might be real, but it is insignificantly higher than your normal RTP. ( 0.5% to 1% better )

Have you played these games and have you seen any difference in your win percentage?
RTP means return to player. High RTP only means that you'll experience prolonged gameplay. You still need luck to be able to win. Logically, if it's your lucky day, so called 'enhanced RTP' will increase your chance to win because you'll be able to play much longer, i.e. you'll be able to roll more spins.

I only believe what I see when playing slots. I also rarely pay attention to the RTP of each slot game. Maybe there is an increased RTP, but I don't know. I've never had a big win from a slot game.
Results are determined way earlier, before you see the visual, animation part. It's better for you to play slots with high RTP. Why to play slots that take more from you instead of playing slots that take less from you? High RTP slots will also prolong your gambling session.


Title: Re: Do you believe in "Enhanced RTP" in some slots?
Post by: junder on January 03, 2024, 01:59:34 PM
I only believe what I see when playing slots. I also rarely pay attention to the RTP of each slot game. Maybe there is an increased RTP, but I don't know. I've never had a big win from a slot game.

But even if you play slot games with various RTPs, you must have luck to win. This slot game is challenging to play, especially the newly released one. Many gamblers are interested in playing new slot games. But still, they need luck to win.

So it's better to enjoy the slot game. Don't think about getting a win every time you play slots because it depends on your luck.

I also feel less confident about the existence of RTP on every gambling site, I'm not less sure, in fact I feel it has no influence at all on slot games, whether it's me myself who feels this way or there are other people who feel the same way, and indeed I have some friends who play slots but they are more focused on the RTP on gambling sites, where my friend always gambles on slots by looking at the RTP first, if the game he knows has a high RTP then he will play it, on the other hand though he likes one slot game but that game has a low RTP he won't play that game because he feels unsure about the game having a low RTP.

I agree with you, even though the RTP of a game is good, it also requires luck to win, and what I am sure is that when we have strong luck, even if we play a game that has a low RTP, if luck is on our side, there is a possibility of winning. . therefore I believe more in luck than being fixated on RTP.


Title: Re: Do you believe in "Enhanced RTP" in some slots?
Post by: YOSHIE on January 03, 2024, 02:39:47 PM
I see some slot providers are offering slot games with "enhanced RTP" or even a option to increase the bet amount to increase the chances of you hitting the FREE spin feature.
Indeed, the term RTP is often mentioned and discussed by many gamblers, especially in slot games, of course we often see RTP referring to the percentage of funds or prizes that users get.

As far as I know, the knowledge to know and read about RTP work is very important to get additional value, I mean the RTP leakage of the slots that we bet on, for example what we generally know is the percentage of slot RTP leakage.
* Sweet Bonanza RTP: 96.7%
* Olympus RTP 96.9%
* Wild West Gold RTP 97.5%

And many others, the higher the slot RTP percentage, the greater your chances of getting RTP, for that you need to know the leaks in the slot you are playing.

The point is: almost all slots have an RTP, but all of that is useless, if we can't find a high slot RTP value, the different RTP values ​​the chance of winning that we feel will also have different results.


Title: Re: Do you believe in "Enhanced RTP" in some slots?
Post by: len01 on January 04, 2024, 06:40:59 AM
I believe if I get maxwin win from the game but I won't believe it if I lose.  ::)

TBH, I might sometimes believe in Enhanced RTP when each spin has a return that is almost the same as that presented previously. but I think this still depends on luck because not all slot games that have Enhanced RTP have a big chance of winning, it's just that as far as I know this will not affect the chance of winning but it affects the returns for every spin we do and I often dont get anything from the slot games that are played enhanced RTP despite losing my entire budget.

and sometimes I get a win from the game but it's still not a maxwin, just very small win after getting the free spins.
but I've seen my friends in types of games that have Enhanced RTP often get free spins but the result is still the same, never getting a maxwin.
In fact, I often play slot games without Enhanced RTP and often get maxwin. I'm sure it just about luck.


Title: Re: Do you believe in "Enhanced RTP" in some slots?
Post by: Yamifoud on January 04, 2024, 06:44:17 AM
Whether we believe it or not, it still does not eliminate the fact that their games has house edge. And I agree with @Tytanowy Janusz, as long as it's not "provably fair'", there's no chance we can prove that. Although they maintain their good reputation, but we shouldn't be too confident trusting them as they  are here to operate for profit, increasing our chances of winning doesn't mean we do have the edge over them.


Title: Re: Do you believe in "Enhanced RTP" in some slots?
Post by: michellee on January 04, 2024, 07:15:56 AM
Results are determined way earlier, before you see the visual, animation part. It's better for you to play slots with high RTP. Why to play slots that take more from you instead of playing slots that take less from you? High RTP slots will also prolong your gambling session.
By extending the gambling session, it will require more money. I don't want that because it could also result in losing more money. So you can lose whatever the slot game, whether with a low or high RTP if you don't control yourself by implementing a money limit. It's up to you whether you want to keep trying it or keep limiting your gambling.

I also feel less confident about the existence of RTP on every gambling site, I'm not less sure, in fact I feel it has no influence at all on slot games, whether it's me myself who feels this way or there are other people who feel the same way, and indeed I have some friends who play slots but they are more focused on the RTP on gambling sites, where my friend always gambles on slots by looking at the RTP first, if the game he knows has a high RTP then he will play it, on the other hand though he likes one slot game but that game has a low RTP he won't play that game because he feels unsure about the game having a low RTP.

I agree with you, even though the RTP of a game is good, it also requires luck to win, and what I am sure is that when we have strong luck, even if we play a game that has a low RTP, if luck is on our side, there is a possibility of winning. . therefore I believe more in luck than being fixated on RTP.
Everyone who often plays slots must have ways to choose the slot game they want. Some people look for high RTP because they feel the odds are high and vice versa. But some people choose slot games based on the slot games that have just been added to their casino, so if the casino has not added new slot games, they will not gamble at that casino. Slot game fans do many things depending on how they choose their slot game.

I don't really care about RTP, especially since finding a slot game with the RTP we want takes time. Apart from that, we also have to have luck to win big wins. We have to understand if there are gamblers whose settings are different from ours because each of us definitely has different experiences in playing gambling, especially since this slot game has many slot providers.


Title: Re: Do you believe in "Enhanced RTP" in some slots?
Post by: davis196 on January 04, 2024, 07:21:39 AM
I see some slot providers are offering slot games with "enhanced RTP" or even a option to increase the bet amount to increase the chances of you hitting the FREE spin feature.

Do you actually believe that this is a real feature and that it does give you a higher chance to win? I think it might be real, but it is insignificantly higher than your normal RTP. ( 0.5% to 1% better )

Have you played these games and have you seen any difference in your win percentage?

I don't trust this so called "feature". It seems to me that this is just another buzzword or cheap marketing gimmick, made to mislead more gamblers into playing slots. I'm not a fan of slots and such "feature" cannot make wanna play a particular slots game in a particular casino.
It would be nice if you mention which casinos are offering this "enhanced RTP" opportunity. Maybe we could decide whether or not this feature is legit based on the reviews and trustworthiness of the crypto casinos, that are offering enhanced RTP.


Title: Re: Do you believe in "Enhanced RTP" in some slots?
Post by: Hirose UK on January 04, 2024, 07:31:11 AM
From my personal experience, playing with gambling sites that offer or show RTP features to their customers is only on local gambling sites and indeed there, when the RTP is really high, the returns on each spin are also quite good.
But this does not guarantee win, it only increases the percentage of losses to be much smaller, after all, slot games in any provider that is clearly seen to have very high RTP will never be able to easily provide a free spins feature.
On average, games with an RTP below 90% can provide free spin feature, whereas in slot games big wins and large multipliers will be easier to get in free spin bonuses, not manual spins.
Many gamblers are lulled by conditions like this, they are attracted by the high RTP and when they are impatient with each round they will buy bonuses which will obviously increase their budget excessively.
I don't believe that a high RTP can increase gambler chances of winning, but I believe that high RTP can minimize the number of losses from each spin.


Title: Re: Do you believe in "Enhanced RTP" in some slots?
Post by: Coin_trader on January 04, 2024, 07:34:45 AM
I see some slot providers are offering slot games with "enhanced RTP" or even a option to increase the bet amount to increase the chances of you hitting the FREE spin feature.

Do you actually believe that this is a real feature and that it does give you a higher chance to win? I think it might be real, but it is insignificantly higher than your normal RTP. ( 0.5% to 1% better )

Have you played these games and have you seen any difference in your win percentage?

It’s a legit offer. You can notice that most of your spin includes 1 to 2 FS which you will not experience without a boost on bonus. Although it’s not that much boost but it’s still a good offer.

In the end, It’s still pure random which means there’s no guarantee that you can hit free spin frequently with a minor boost on RTP. It’s a gamble same when you buy bonus or just manually spin the equivalent amount of buy bonus which you will never know if you will hit free spin in that specific count if you purchased it.


Title: Re: Do you believe in "Enhanced RTP" in some slots?
Post by: iv4n on January 04, 2024, 08:00:37 AM
I see some slot providers are offering slot games with "enhanced RTP" or even a option to increase the bet amount to increase the chances of you hitting the FREE spin feature.

Do you actually believe that this is a real feature and that it does give you a higher chance to win? I think it might be real, but it is insignificantly higher than your normal RTP. ( 0.5% to 1% better )

Have you played these games and have you seen any difference in your win percentage?

I wonder the same thing sometimes, but I always turn on that feature if available. BGaming is one of the providers I often play and they have many slots with that feature. Well, I often hit bonus rounds but just hitting it doesn't mean much if we don't have the luck to hit something nice in that bonus round, which happens often as well.

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Aloha King Elvis is one of my favorite slots, I always play it with a x2.5 higher chance to hit a bonus round or coin respin.


Title: Re: Do you believe in "Enhanced RTP" in some slots?
Post by: ethereumhunter on January 04, 2024, 09:22:18 AM
I forget whether I've played this game or not because I never checked whether the slot game had "enhanced RTP" or whether it was just the slot game I usually play. I don't believe in things like that because if the slot provider made statements like that, we should be able to win more often and a lot more. But many of us still experience losses even though we play the slot game in question, and that's because this slot game really requires luck to win. We can't expect much if we don't have luck and can only enjoy the game. We can also move from one slot game to another to check and find out where our luck is. But it requires more time and money, especially since we don't know where and when luck will come.


Title: Re: Do you believe in "Enhanced RTP" in some slots?
Post by: junder on January 04, 2024, 05:02:06 PM
I also feel less confident about the existence of RTP on every gambling site, I'm not less sure, in fact I feel it has no influence at all on slot games, whether it's me myself who feels this way or there are other people who feel the same way, and indeed I have some friends who play slots but they are more focused on the RTP on gambling sites, where my friend always gambles on slots by looking at the RTP first, if the game he knows has a high RTP then he will play it, on the other hand though he likes one slot game but that game has a low RTP he won't play that game because he feels unsure about the game having a low RTP.

I agree with you, even though the RTP of a game is good, it also requires luck to win, and what I am sure is that when we have strong luck, even if we play a game that has a low RTP, if luck is on our side, there is a possibility of winning. . therefore I believe more in luck than being fixated on RTP.
Everyone who often plays slots must have ways to choose the slot game they want. Some people look for high RTP because they feel the odds are high and vice versa. But some people choose slot games based on the slot games that have just been added to their casino, so if the casino has not added new slot games, they will not gamble at that casino. Slot game fans do many things depending on how they choose their slot game.

I don't really care about RTP, especially since finding a slot game with the RTP we want takes time. Apart from that, we also have to have luck to win big wins. We have to understand if there are gamblers whose settings are different from ours because each of us definitely has different experiences in playing gambling, especially since this slot game has many slot providers.

This is a factor in the differences in each person's thinking, the same as my previous quote, where there are those who gamble on slots by focusing on RTP and there are those who are not fixated on RTP, this is not a strange thing because it is clear that each person certainly has different thoughts. but what is interesting to me is that there are people who are interested in playing slot gambling by seeing that a game they like has a high RTP percentage value. even though I don't think it's certain that you will win, but that's how humans have different thoughts.

Some people who gamble without caring about their RTP tend to play according to their wishes, and if they feel bored then they will move on, even though the game still has a high percentage value. Also, I myself don't believe in RTP because not all slot gambling sites also provide RTP, only a few online casino sites provide that feature, and I'm sure it's just a technique to attract the interest of many people to convince them of gambling that will give them a win.