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Theoretically speaking if you could predict the algorithm in an online casino wouldn't you be able to predict the game and win a lot let's just say you had access to the algorithm and you were able to replicate it you would practically be able to win all the games

For Casino games, I think it's not as simple as you are thinking. These algorithms are complex and random too. However I always believe the games are designed to give benefit to the house, not the players. The algorithm also ensures that the players do not lose interest and leave games.

Theoretically yes. I don't know i someone has done it but maybe the casino owner themselves has access to the algorithm you are saying.

But most gamblers who are trying to look at patterns eventually lose and are just relying on luck or the kind of where it's their due time to win. There were rumors about win frequency inside the game providers' dashboards in which the Random number generators (RNGs) are manipulated. Well who could say.

And what make you think it possible for you to get hold of the casino Algorithm,  it is clear that this is not gonna happen so let's not waste time discussing the possibilities,  and just as Royse777 already pointed out,  it is very difficult for such vulnerability to have a hold on the outcome of casino games since most games results are random and non-specifically following a pattern.

And also if you have such a back door bug to manipulate the game's systems,  the casino will know at once when the house edge is no longer effective due to the use of the lip hold to abuse the system.

It will also alarm the casino of your activity making them question your activity, it's not easy to beat the house, they might think that you are exploiting the bug and they may question you about cheating if ever you could predict the algorithm, be sure not to get caught don't be too greedy make it look realistic and if you are caught knowing about algorithm the casino will accuse of violations like multi-accounting or cheating although you did not commit those what they accuse you.

This is why most of the casino games especially slot games is closed source because it’s possible to exploit the game once the algorithm is exposed.

The main question here is whether the casino will allowed you to win consecutively and cashout your profit because having a perfect game with huge profit will surely alarmed the casino security for potential exploits. As mention already by @aioc. You will be accused of violating casino terms before you can enjoy long term the exploitation that you found on their games.

it means if there is someone who could crack the algo, his account will be suspended, locked and banned. like Royse777 the casino games are just not designed to make you win, so they advised users who won at least 2-3x of their capital to stop playing already and try again on another casino for your luck could change when you continue playing.

most gamblers must have experienced winning for almost an hour and then the next hours, their funds were washed out.

Theoretically, Yes you will be able to predict and win all games.
Practically, it is next to impossible to hack the algorithm and if someone succeeded to do so, the system will detect the pattern and lock you out.

- Jay -

Do you want to cheat the house??? :)

A lot of thoughts are flying through the heads of many gamblers, but do not also forget that more thoughts are flying through the heads of the house and those are in charge of their software and gambling platforms. What you just asked will be the least of what they have already prevented, so do not waste your time.

Still, those who wrote the algorithms should be able to say better but in my opinion, they would have twisted it per casinos if they commercialise it so that it does not work or behave exactly the same way with all casinos. However, if it is a unique one dedicated to the casino, to first get it will be a problem because it is the engine room of the company's money. But let's assume that you managed to get it, it is possible that it doesn't simulate the same way, so it might be more complex than you think.

But let's not conclude on that, the writers of the algorithm or the tech-savvy people in the field who have written such programs before should be able to answer better, and not random people.

Anything that can be put to practical use is of not good to anyone – theoretically it is possible to win all games if you’re able to get your hands on it but how are you going to do it? I have never seen or heard anyone hack the system was able to predict the system and perfectly predicted games that came out without any problems – when there’s any signs that you’re cheating in any way your account will be immediately locked down for further investigation.

It’s better not to start thinking about this kind of things because you never can tell what this will lead to or what seed will be sown into those that are going to read this thread.

Theoretically, maybe that is true, but if people do reasoning about what algorithms are in online gambling, maybe it is not as easy as imagined.
What I know from reading in several sources is that online casino algorithms are random or Random Number Generator [RNG].
Usually a program generated from a computer applies to slot games such as Roulette and the like which are known as games of luck[1].

If we all know the general meaning of algorithms, perhaps trying to interpret them in online gambling will have a different purpose.
The dealer wants to win twice as much as the player. Even though players are very smart in algorithm science, it is not certain that they will win every game at an online casino.

[1]. Source written in my local language.  (https://intisari.grid.id/read/033903065/rahasia-algoritma-judi-online-pemain-tidak-akan-pernah-untung?page=all)

No, that is not possible even if you are able to predict the outcome. The reason is that you would still have a level of underconfidence as a gambler as you know the house has the ability to change the algorithm. There have been situations while playing the dice or slot game I felt it was easy to crack the outcome. Ultimately it was always my overconfidence that duped me and trust me it is not that easy to break the flow of the outcome in gambling when luck is involved.

Sure, but how do you predict it lol? I've always wanted to have an edge, since the best win I ever had was on Dplay and accumulated to like $1000 only. I'm not saying I'm ungrateful lol, but we all know how that works, it's pretty much never enough

No, predicting games at online casinos to win big isnt as easy as figuring out their algorithms.  These sites use random number generators (RNGs) so everything should be fair and random.  RNGs spit out random outcomes all day long, so even if you are some math genius, you cant beat them.    

Sure maybe once in a blue moon some dude finds a bug in the system to exploit.  But thats pretty rare nowadays since the IT security at these places is no joke and  so i would not bank on it if I were you.  More likely, youll just lose big bucks trying to crack the code.  My advice?  Have fun if you gamble online, but go in knowing the house usually wins.

Isn't it theoretically true that Algorithms work to solve problems that are often done systematically and logically, my understanding is that Algorithmic predictions cannot be used in the world of gambling, because the nature of gambling that is often done is the type of game, not specifications or data.

As far as I know, algorithmic systems lead to the opposite point, for example what is called a heuristic, meaning a solution that has no guarantee of producing optimal or correct results, because in general algorithms are always identified with properties.
For example:
Definition, Designing, Analysis, Implementation, Specifications and so on.

While gambling is always used by many gamblers based on knowledge, games, information, luck and so on.
While the algorithm produces output that is arranged logically and systematically.
As I know Algorithms are divided into several types.
For example:

I have seen several types of algorithms that cannot be used in this type of gambling game.

I don't think so...

The algorithm used by casinos on their provably fair games is public information, and they make it that way to let the users verify their bets. Here the trick is the server seed, before placing the bet the site shows you a hash of the seed, and after placing the bet you can verify it with the server seed.

Now, if you have access to the casino code you can make from the server seed a constant and that way cheat on the game, but in that scenario where you have access to the code, it is a waste of time to attack the seed, a smart move would be to directly drain the wallets, or be a nice guy and report the bug to the casino.

In traditional casino games I doubt that something like this could happen, in fact stay away from those thoughts that pave the way to failure, it is easier not to bet than to think such nonsense.

Now, at the beginning of the 21st century, the wild era of casinos, there was a guy who played in "God mode" in a popular poker room, they discovered him because his win rate was so high, that a player (several ) followed up and noticed the rarity, they investigated:

One expert (mathematician and gaming expert) said the following:

Source:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cereus_Poker_Network

If players win all the time, the casino would go bankrupt and have nothing to pay out winnings, let alone the rest of the casino. Personally, I think the algorithm still uses cameras to recognize players' faces to prevent unwanted people from winning. And the overall winning percentage is strictly regulated

The casino are smart and if it happens that you could know how to win the game through having access to their algorithm, you will only be successful on the first trial and after that the casino will detect and banned your account for cheating.

Casino owners have thought about every possible ways in which their casino can have flaws which they have come to know that it is impossible for you to cheat and get out of it after the first time. You cannot win the house edge and I don't think there is any possibility of you having access to their Algorithm even if you are working in the casino.

If what we are talking about here is like casino or alot games, then my response would be that there is no chance at all, trust me when I say that if it was possible for a gambler to gain access to a game algorithm of a casino and manipulate it to his or her own advantage, somebody somewhere around the would have done it, and the news would have done viral due to how popular gambling is, so, this is only possible in theory, but never possible practically.

And again, I am not so sure about this, but I've always believed that casinos are the only ones who have access to their game algorithm, as they could ulter as they please, this is why we sometimes find games that are not provably fair on some casinos.

You are talking about digital games I guess, because there is no algorithm into a dice roll, a wheel throw, or a shuffle of cards, especially when it's done by one human. So you won't be able to crack any live casino game by trying to do that, and it's almost the same for digital games, if the entropy/randomness of the game is fairly provided by an efficient RNG generator, especially a TRNG using a physical source of entropy(randomness), you have no chance to find a loophole for guessing the outcomes.

Yes, in theory it is very possible to do that by reverse engineering the algorithm of the online casinos and their games but in real life it's not an easy task and can't be done by a person with no knowledge of programming and reverse engineering. In fact these days most of the famous casinos detect such activity easily and if a player does something shady then they directly ban the player's account with any warning.

The casinos are there because they mostly rely on the house edge and if someone get success in doing something that may cause the casino losses then surely they work on their algorithm again and fix such issues by changing their algorithm. I know that there can be some advanced level reverse engineers and hackers who can easily find vulnerabilities in casino games but they won't be able to gain any profits for long term and they might not be able to withdraw the profits because casino will freeze those withdrawals.

Unless the system is fair enough, the algorithm used for those games and how they generate their numbers can't be predicted. That's why games based on randomly generated numbers are won by luck and not by skill because there is nothing there for you to study and understand what number will come next and which one will not come next.
 
Like I said earlier, unless the casino is using a genuine system where they only use the random number generator to back up their fraud, somehow someone will notice their techniques and how they predict the game and use that against them; if not, I don't think it's possible to beat their algorithm.

For sure they would really be making out those tweaks that they would really be always having the advantage on which its understandable considering that they are running a business and we do know that they would really be having those edge against their players but of course they would be setting out that those advantage wont really be that heavily be going into their side and they would
really be normally setting out that their players could really be able to win up. So that it wont really be that removing the fun and excitement because they do still know and feel that they can
really be able to win up on the time that they would be playing. This is why it would really be that normal on having those kind of set up.Tweaking? Its not really
that an easy thing, if it was easy then everyone could be able to do so.

Theoretically speaking even if we know the algorithm it is hard to predict the outcome of the game due to the result is random.  I do not heard anyone who can precisely tell the result of the game even if they knew about the algorithm of that game.  It is because it was created to have a random result, the algorithm itself can't detect what would be the next random thing, it is like drawing a raffle that although we know the list of number inside the drawbox, we still can't tell what number will be picked next.

Because this is just theoretical thinking and not reality it will not be possible. There are many things that if theoretically they can be determined, then it means that gambling would no longer be unpredictable, but we know that that does not happen and that would not happen anytime soon. Even if you manage to get your hands on the algorithm in an online casino, I am sure that it will be changed or updated on the notice that too many people are winning through it or a particular gambler like you is recording a series of successive wins without any losses.

In theory, everything is possible! In practice, the casino team would catch you and very likely confiscate your entire bankroll... so it's best to be a fair player and not risk being accused of fraud.

Casinos can have bugs that can be exploited, but instead of cheating the casino and risking your deposits that can be confiscated you can try to report it and you can get a fair reward. Good luck!

It's easier said than done, that's the reality.

You know that these casinos are doing their own business and they have all the measures to counter anything that goes against their fairness for their players.

Naturally, they always the have edge against their players but if they've seen some players that have been constantly winning and that doesn't go according to their normal process then you know what's coming next.

This could be possible theoretically, but in reality its hard to know the algorithm and many are still struggling to get a win because the house will always win. Imagine if all gamblers know how to beat the house then for sure there will be no casinos anymore as they will go bankrupt by paying every gamblers who hit the jackpot, so let’s be more realistic here.

Don't the algorithms and formulas used by casinos use random (or pseudo) numbers? Even if you knew the algorithm, as long as you can't find that key number that lets you discover the result, it doesn't matter if you had the algorithm or not. It probably increases your chances of being able to guess a game though by brute forcing it across x number of games, but it's not necessarily a guarantee to winning one. Otherwise devs or anyone who knew the algorithm would have quite the field day for it.

Predicting the algorithm and winning is really tough, and very few might have succeeded in the past. Nowadays, things are much more advanced, and the technological advancement never lets the gamblers find an opportunity to win out of the mistakes at the casinos. I've come across the story of a gambler The professor who beat roulette (https://thehustle.co/professor-who-beat-roulette) who had collected data and won in roulette in different casinos. Before the usage of algorithms, he studied the wear and tear of machines and made a fortune. Some casinos banned him from gambling.

Predicting the algorithm? You will get nothing even if you knew it's algorithm, casino algo doesn't work like 1+1=2 that you can predict the outcome. Even casino can't tell the specific outcome of the bet if rolled. Because it uses random numbers using cryptography.
The only way you can do something like that is if you find a bug and abuse it, but don't expect it could be that easy because you will be in trouble later on.

I guess it depends on whether the casino is being fair or not.  If they've got some provably fair algorithm that uses random numbers to decide each game, then nope - no way to beat that.  The whole point of RNGs is that the results are impossible to predict. 

But yeah, if the casino is shady and messes with the outcomes, then sure maybe their algorithm or whatever could be analyzed to figure out a winning strategy.  Like if they just re-use certain sequences of random numbers, then you could spot the pattern.  That's why the legit places make a big deal about being provably fair - it proves the games aren't rigged.

As long as its truly random each time, there's no beating it through math or anything.  You might get lucky for a bit, but probability always catches up in the end.  Unless you count card in blackjack - that's using your brain rather than an algorithm!  But they'll kick you out quick if you get too good at it.

I believe you have many misconceptions about how gambling is supposed to work. You may have already an idea on how it does in the real world, by the use of machines and mechanisms like roulettes and dices which help to generate results which are very difficult to guess by any player, those are generators or entropy, physical ones.
In the caso of the online casinos, you cannot cheat by "knowing the algorithm", because that algorithm itself does not pick the results, what it does is to use some source of entropy to generate random numbers which then are used to get a result on the display on the user who is gambling.

You are implying gambling is something which is already pre-set or pre-destined by a program, but that is not how it works, it would be rather fishy and unfair if so. If you have an advice, I would tell you to read hot random number generators work and their application on gambling, you will learn a lot, I am sure of it.

Algorithms for them are too random for anyone to crack. At least that's what i have been told. However, there was a case in Finland where man found a way to cheat with physical slot games, and no one seems to know how he did it.  Article is only in finnish so maybe you have automatic translation:
https://www.mtvuutiset.fi/artikkeli/mies-keksi-keinon-huijata-veikkauksen-pelikoneita-pumppasi-kasinolta-33-000-euroa-konsti-on-yha-mysteeri-kaikille/8638254#gs.3adxiw

Personally i feel that if someone actually managed to crack the code, they should get to keep the winnings, as it's the slot provider's job to make algorithm less predictable. But then again i don't know if he used some electronic devices to disturb the machines. Article says that he just recorded the games with his phone before he started winning, and that police knows cases where criminal groups have cracked pseudorandom number generator algorithms before.

So i guess at least in the past there has been a change for that.

You might be able to guess the game's outcome if you can predict the algorithm when playing at an online casino. But it's important to remember that online casinos might employ advanced encryption technology along with random number generators to guarantee fair gameplay and prohibit players from guessing the results of any given game. It won't be simple either since, as I'm sure you know, there are advanced security systems in place to track player behavior and, of course, they can identify any suspicious activity occurring in your account.
 You have no match for them because the house is always in the favor and will ensure that you do not win more than you can afford to.

Completely correct , the system  will surely detect those who  have been closer to their algorithm and yes will either locked or banned your account confiscating  your funds , Gambling sites now are aware of either cheating or taking deep into their Algo so it will trigger the alarm and the team will confront or declare against your account.

Lucky for you if make it out before the system took action , but normally you will not because Gambling site is money making machine to favor the team and owner , and not the players.

Well, I don't think the account itself will suffer from the banning or locked account because an algorithm is a set of finite rules or instructions to be followed in calculations or other problem-solving operations, meaning this algorithm is being used for the gambling games to generate the winning number or winning choices, so if you can access the website and its system, then you can access the system that is generating the algorithm combination for the gambling games, and you can always win 100%. Of course, if you are smart, you will not use your account, right? What may go wrong if, for example, the system or the website itself notices that you are always winning? Then they will go suspicious and investigate the case.
Technology is powerful; if you can locate the vulnerability of a website, you can access its system, and the favour will be in your hands, but there is a greater risk for that, and as we know, it is illegal. If you are caught hacking their system, then it's a sentence for you.

There is no specific algorithm that a particular casino game follows. Hence if you try to analyse each and every pattern for the outcome, then you will get nothing other than a deadend. It follows random generation technique to give the outcomes according to my knowledge. Neither you, nor the casino can control the outcomes. So in order to win a match, you need to be extremely lucky. That is everything that you need in order to win a casino game.

If you can predict the algorithms in online casinos, you can definitely win a lot. But you can't predict it accurately. There may be a standard algorithm used but the casino will not stick to that algorithm because this is a business. Casinos must have changed certain codes so that the algorithms will become increasingly difficult to predict.

If you can have access to the algorithm, it proves you know how to get into the system and only a few people can do it. Even if you can get into the system and have access, the casino will definitely not sit still and will change the security codes. We can't get into casinos easily.

Indeed, you can win all the games if you can access the algorithm, but it is very difficult. The casino will definitely monitor its security system well.

maybe it works randomly. how can we know and predict it accurately? If that is possible, there will be no losses for our bets that know this gap.
and if you are that person, maybe you are a threat to the casino. and finally, your data can be blocked from all casinos and you won't be able to place bets.
but I'm not sure about this. maybe it's just the wishful thinking of a gambler who is very obsessed with winning. or even gamblers who are looking for income from casinos who are thinking about doing that.

If this will be possible then you will surely win the games but have you ever knew one that have
had this mate? because I never read someone who admit this but if you come to know one then lets see if
this is really on the table to happen?

Good luck finding the algorithm then, if you don't like going against the casino when you are gambling find games likes sports and bet your money on them, or find games that are players vs players.

If any cheating is going to happen in gambling it's easily from those games that player vs the casino system, cheating will be lesser if you are playing vs another player.

Forget algorithm, even if you get your hand on one do not believe that it will keep working, they don't last long, I remember when people found freebitco bot that's needed to be running in the background of your PC while you are on the official website, few people made some good amount of BTC but it doesn't last very long before it was patched.

Casino houses will never let lose , because it was designed to win against gambler so no matter what OP is asking indeed that we can or he can win a little but in the end ? it is the site that will go home with the money.
so better for us to just play with fun and with luck , than doing what is not necessary .

You must be a genius to think that you can predict the algorithm of casino games, that shit is too complex for any human brain, maybe if you manage to open your sixth sense? Can you? I guess not.

Why are people even trying this hard to beat the impossible? Casinos game providers are not idiots, even if a vulnerability exists in any casino games they don't stay for long before they get fixed up, why not work on yourself and don't get too attached to gambling?

You can't always beat the casino, that's why when wins find you, quitting is the next thing to do, you can't beat casinos at their games, unless you are some powerful being from another planet.

They would never ever let themselves to be that beaten up by gamblers on which if theres a way that they can be beaten then they would really be always that 1 step ahead in front of us
 on which it is really just that normal that they would really be fixing or updating on whatever  those leakage or exploits on which it could really be resulting that they would really be making themselves
getting that wrecked or bankrupt by the players. We do know that exploits is there but we do know that it is really that do hard to make yourself that profitable with gambling.
Changing up some algorithms? THis is something a coder or programmer could be able to do so but it isnt really that simple as it sounds.
Security would be tough and they wont really be putting up themselves on business if they arent prepared.

Well, I quite disagree with you bud, yeah, casinos are so designed in a such a manner that they will always win regardless of how much a player wins, but then, think deep about this, the term "the house always wins" is in general terms, not in individual level, and what does this mean? It simply means that, an individual gambler can still beat and win the casinos if he or she is lucky, but regardless of this winning, casinos will always be in profit because when one or two gamblers win in a particular game, there are several other thousands of  other gamblers who lost in the same game, so the casino can easily pay the winners from money they got or obtained from the losers, while the keep they rest of the remaining money as their own profit.

So, as a gamblers, we can still strive to  not be among the losers but the be among the winners, which is, it's possible for an individual to beat and profit from a casino, but generally, the casino will always be in profit, I hope you get the logic now.

In house games use SHA256 algorithm, if you can hack it or beat the algorithm, congratulations you're one step ahead to hack Bitcoin. :D

For the record SHA256 was never got hacked or compromised, so that means the algorithm is really randomized and impossible to beat it. I think it's better if you join a small football team and create a fixed match instead of beat SHA256.

Yes, the only way to take advantage of the casino's algorithm would be through a vulnerability on the system, meaning the person would have to explore errors, glitches and bugs found on the platform. I believe OP's question could have been made more explicity regards it already, because there is no other way to predict the algorithm, since in nature it has to be random to ensure legit results and fair play.

In every cases, instead of exploring algorithm vulnerabilities, it's advisable that every gamblers report such errors spotted to the platform. Besides ensuring the service's good functionality, they may also be rewarded by the casinos for their honesty and contribution, instead of being punished, banned and considered cheaters in case they try to take advantage of a failure in the system.

But the OP wasn't asking about taking advantage of vulnerabilities, but about the ability to predict the outcomes if someone got the full algorithm. Like if someone got a master key or something like that.

I'm not a technical specialist so I get lost in technicalities, but the way I see it, the algorithm applies a set of rules and, given an input, returns an output; the problem is that for one input, the output is not unique, so I don't think it would work the way the OP was asking. That would happen if you got a list of numbers pre-selected by the casino that go one after another, but I think that algorithms are more "dynamic" than that... but let's see what math savvies have to tell us.

Because, the way I see it, even if there is nothing like perfect randomness (at least not in anything created by a human being) randomizers work so well that they almost work as if they were 100% random, and there are so many variables to take into account that it would be impossible even for the casino itself to predict their own outputs.

At first, I thought you were being serious until now that you sound so sarcastic to me that I noticed the joke in this statement,  well casino algorithm is not a joke and can't easily and freely be manipulated just like that,  so for sure describing it inline with impossibility of also getting bitcoin hacked, is very right in this context and we have to accept that facts,  one among the things we should never expect is such as getting a casino hacked it not that easy to hack the casino system.

The highest a hacker can go maybe to hack their wallet and that also has to come through an insider,  but saying that a casino system such as its in-house games systems getting hacked and manipulated is something that of a rare presence to us.

It's not totally certain. Casino owners follow standard rules. They might figure out how to cheat in a game, but they can't change the entire system. They know how everything works, and the system still decides the winner as usual. Some players may understand how the algorithms work, so they practice and play, trying to prove to themselves that they were right.

However, even if you understand the system well and can predict its moves, you can't win every game, as the op mentioned. If the casino notices any suspicious moves, they might even get you arrested for running them at a loss and cheating

Personally, I can't speculate as far as you say. the problem is, this is not as simple as we imagine. at the very least, you should be an expert on algorithms yourself. plus, how you will apply it. meanwhile, the developer of whatever game it is, has designed it in such a way, including protecting all possibilities with security that they have created themselves. the more technology develops, the more sophisticated innovation becomes, including security that prevents things from happening that developers and casinos don't want.

But let's use the scenario you say, assuming we have access to the algorithm. the question is, have you ever tried it? then how do you know or predict games that have the potential to win. in fact, I can't even imagine it yet. please understand, because this area is not my expertise. apart from that, what's the point if you can do that? in my understanding, this is related to an element that contains something that is not allowed, especially since we are not part of the casino or developer. for sure, you are not gambling anymore, because you know which machine will make money. ultimately the main target is money, not the game. and this is contrary to my personal principles, even though it can bring instant money. apart from that, if we can do it, it will no longer be called gambling. which means, we will only make as much money as possible for personal gain. on the other hand, if you could create your own game, with an algorithmic system, would you do it? thus, you are free to play happily without losing.

You said it all, if one have had the access to the algorithm of the gambling bets we made, but things are really different from how we pictures them from afar, you know yourself that this is almost impossible, we could have seen much people also into this and before you know it, everything has turned to abuse, also consider the gambling platforms, they are to make business in this all, we have to gambling to risk our chances out for a win or loss.

True, that is the trick there why even if the person knows algorithm, the way this algorithm set up to produce random numbers, make it difficult for any players  to predict the outcome of the game without tampering that algorithm.  If one wants to predict the outcome precisely, he needs to modify the algorithm, remove the RNG and give a fix result every time the result is trigger.  That is called hacking and not predicting anymore.

fact is that,  there is no possible way to predict the casino game algorithm and for that we have to accept the fact that bots and other tools that could be used for manipulation of the system are closely watched by the technical departments of the casino and for such no possible that escape.

But if you may become a genius to be able to break that setting then you can call yourself lucky to have beat the casino,  but in most cases it is near impossible for that to happen.

If that happens, of course the host will realize there is something strange about your activities at the casino. Your account will be checked and your account may even be frozen. I don't think there is any way to rig a casino because it is a business and businesses are designed to bring in profits for the host. There are several possibilities where you will win the jackpot but to be honest I personally prefer sports betting to online casino games.

Let's say it was possible for the casino owner to have access to the algorithm, he wouldn't play to win because it's his casino, the money he would win would be going into his pocket even if he didn't play. So instead of him cheating and running the risk of someone discovering his scheme, he will choose not to use the algorithm for his personal purposes and will not be giving access to the algorithm to anyone. will choose to profit from the losses of each customer who uses his casino. Casino game developers are also very ethical in this regard, they will not risk exploiting a bug to make money

because by doing this kind of thing, no one will trust them anymore and they won't make money with the software they create. So it's not worth it for them to cheat. As for people who have no connection with software creators who have a partnership with the casino and are ordinary people who spend hours researching ways to get the algorithm for a game, even if that person managed to succeed in winning a lot, it wouldn't take much time for the coders who work at the casino to realize this when the person requests withdrawal and after that person is caught cheating, they would have funds frozen and their account blocked. casinos have smart people working at the casino. That's why we always have to respect the TOS

That's right, the randomness that exists in online casinos really makes it impossible for anyone to be that simple when it comes to figuring out how to find a loophole or a formula or even a conquest. Imagining it might be fine but if you intend to bring that kind of confidence into action in person then I think you'll find that it's not as easy as one might think and assume.

Online casino games have very smart algorithms and concepts, as we know that money is the only object of victory in casinos if you are lucky in one of the sessions you do, and on the other hand we are also aware that money is something that is needed and wanted by everyone, gamblers think that they can take advantage of gambling situations and conditions to earn income in ways or strategies that they consider trustworthy or accurate. but what they don't know is the fact that they only spin on a cycle of winning and losing, which in fact behind the scenes the casino slowly withdraws the money they have in several sessions, But what they don't know is the fact that they only spin on a cycle of winning and losing, which is the fact that behind the scenes the casino slowly withdraws the money they have in a few sessions, and that is the reason losing is more common than winning, as you said that the house is the real winner, on the other hand the chances of winning have an important role to keep tempting and maintaining the interest of gamblers.

Yes... if it's just an assumption and you can only imagine, then... it's that simple, gambling. However, when we talk about the reality when gambling, getting a win is not as easy as what we previously imagined, it is not as easy as turning the palm of your hand. Gambling is full of impossibilities. uncertainty and also a surprise. So it is quite difficult to be sure when we will get a big win in gambling. So gambling is not a place to make a profit, not a place to multiply wealth and not a place that can provide a steady income. Gambling is a place to have fun and we have to pay dearly for the pleasure we get.

Gambling is both a loss and a pleasure, so this is where it is important for us to continue to pay attention to the gambling activities we carry out, don't let it be that just because of the fun involved in gambling you ignore everything. Don't expect too much from gambling, because if your luck has arrived, then victory will come your way.

The problem may be that these rules are very complex. I remember when I was little in my hometown there were regular slot machines that looked like a bandit. So there was a return percentage of 15 percent or something like that. That is, out of 100 percent of the money that people put into him, he gives away 15 percent. So there the owner sometimes sat down to play and adjusted this percentage in the system to 50 or 70, I don’t know exactly, in order to win. Because, in fact, it was not he who owned this establishment, but his father, and he had to write off the money for winnings

After reading the OP's thread, the question arose, is it possible for us to enter and find out the gambling website algorithm? And if for example we could, wouldn't the system detect us? and of course this will result in us being discovered and eliminated, aka blocked?

In my opinion, this is very impossible, especially when it comes to sports betting, which is actually determined by the match that is taking place.

For slot games, Plinko, this crash can still occur but the system will quickly recognize and anticipate it. In conclusion, with what we have to fight the system it would be very risky and impossible.

If the algorithm is revealed and anyone gains access to it, cashing out your earnings will be nearly impossible. It will be obvious that there is a leakage somewhere that resulted in one getting all games played correctly, so it is very unlikely that you will escape if you have access to the casino system's algorithm. Let's not assert about it too much because I don't believe that will happen, and even if it does, you won't be able to cash out the money. You can’t beat a casino that is created for the purpose of making money and escape from it easily.

Yeah, they do have security measures and once there's something wrong then it would really be impossible that they cant really be able to detect of it, this is why even if you do able to take advantage of those changing algorithms then the next question would be. would you able to get out or make withdrawal? For sure you wont, if you do then consider yourself lucky but if not then
it would really be just that normal that you would really be having that lock up. They cant really just let someone who would really be taking advantage and of course they wont really be liking
for someone to take advantage on them and make easy money out of  those exploited ways specially on changing up algorithm but this is something that we do assume
yet this is never been that easy.

For easier to understand, this is like abusing a bug that has been found but never reported.

The casinos can easily figure out when someone has been lucky at all times. It's gonna be awkward to them to see someone never loses a bet. You're not just going to be blocked but also your money might be confiscated and will never be refunded. That's why the exploit that has been caught should be reported and you may even get a reward or bounty for doing so. But if that bug has been reported by someone earlier than you then you may not receive anything in return but you've helped them figure out that other users can see the bug.

For games like sports betting, it's unlikely to happen but for some games which are luck-based and have an algo and there's a bug that can be abused by the one who has seen it, they'll be known soon.

The reality is we can never win against the house but there's still fairness that they apply on their business and we all know what gambling actually is. We win, we lose, the house wins.

Do you think the casino would allow such thing to happen and to not take an action about it? If you could see the algorithm then assume that they would as well see that there's a glitch in their system or something alike. Jackpots, assuming, will not be won with consistency; there are even times wherein it takes month/s one after another. And if ever they will notice that it's been being hit consistently, then they would more likely do something about it. House always win.
It can be hidden through various wallets given that this industry promotes decentralization which will hide the person's identity. There are so many ways to pull this thing up against the casino therefore, an assumption that casinos will be more preventive than to waste time seeking for that person who knew the algorithm of the game, will be more likely to happen.

Algorithm can be easily replaced by site developers and casino providers. If there would be something off with their monthly statistics, they would more likely troubleshoot as soon as possible and won't let it be continuous.

Predicting gambling algorithm is more possible theoretically speaking than in practice. Most of these algorithms are programmed to be totally random and since the possible chances or outcomes are usually very much it is even more difficult to predict it.
In addition to that, online casinos usually have experienced web developers to run checks on their systems from time to time to find and fix vulnerabilities and even algorithms with flaws that would result in totally predictable wins.
Majority of casino games are usually based on luck with random possibilities so finding a flaw or predicting an algorithm is not very practical.

The gambler who had the potential to make good money through the casino game only by the chasing of the algorithm of the casino game in the gambling site.The algorithm of the casino game was easy like you think,it will be change with the certain period of time,if you want to make huge money through the process.The gambler should learn to change their own tactics again in the short period.The casino will have three different algorithm,should be tackling using different strategies.When the plan A was failed,the gambler should choose the plan B.The gambler will have to use the three strategies to tackle the same game in continuous play of gambling.

But, the algorithms are random that even the casino owners don't know if what will be the game's result. I'm referring to the legit casinos here, as scam casinos can still manipulate the game in order for the users to lose more than usual. And even if we know their algorithms, there will still be a checkpoint that will surely busts us. It's the moment when we withdraw our winnings.

There are still games which are based on our skill, and if we are skilful enough we might win often. In sports betting, there is also called match-fixing. This is the closest thing that we can get but we should still play safe (like betting only realistic amounts) so that we won't look suspicious.

I think it is possible, but tough.  After all, actual people thought up those casino programs in the first place.  But even if you got your hands on the code, making heads or tails of it would be tricky and  game devs intentionally make things complicated to prevent players from gaining an edge.  


True. Sports betting is really completely different, because there is no special algorithm that determines the result, but a real world event.

Bugs. yes... it's like using all our luck. This is very rare and of course very difficult to find, if it goes through a bug this might happen but the chance is very small if it involves a bug. Of course, the house will also continue to improve and perfect the system for existing bugs. The longer the house operates, the fewer bugs there will be, of course with a team and several bug bounties, this kind of thing will be resolved immediately.

Impossible is impossible, it can't be more or very impossible, just like someone can't be more dead ;) Just saying.
OP's question is funny because the outcome is randomized. The way I understand it, you don't get the algorithm telling the site that there was a few wins, so this game has to be a loss. If it was like that the casino would be cheating, so yes if you could predict how a casino is cheating people, you'd be able to profit from it, knowing that some games are automatically blocked, without provably fair system being triggeder, but for most casinos the outcome is random and having inside view of the script would only allow you to know the outcome of the game before the API shows it to you, so you'd know what the slots will role at the exact second when you press the button.

I just read a thread that OP just started today and I saw much confusion. The OP stated in this thread Woes of gambling (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5480831.msg63462846#msg63462846), that gambling is a fraud designed to trick people that they could win, meanwhile, they have no chance of winning. He concluded in that post that casinos are programmed to make people only lose. I am surprised that OP is now offering advice on how to cheaply predict a game that you have zero chance of winning. However, I don't think it is easy to predict the algorithm of a casino. If it was that easy many gamblers would have been winning big consistently. Gambling is mainly determined by luck, skills and experience. I don't know any other means of cheap prediction games maybe the OP can give us an example or a brief tutorial on how to execute his suggestions.        

Lol, if there is such algorithm in gambling, but now someone could have discovered it, but it's not that easy. Even those who are great in mathematics who try to beat the system might be successful in the beginning, but it's the randomness and the unpredictability that makes gambling difficult to win.

No offense OP, but this just happen on movies, wherein someone see what is the card under,  ;D

Just play how it is, if you win then good for you, but don't day dream that you can predict the outcome or you have some kind of magic powers to see the future results.

Not unless you have super computers and expertise to crack or even predict algorithms in an online casino. How about that mathematician guy who beat the system of lottery who wins 14 times?

And unfortunately the predictions I make are always wrong...hihi. Unless I'm really lucky to get some wins.
From some of my experiences when playing gambling. To be honest at this point, I couldn't expect more from gambling. And indeed this gambling is something that cannot be expected...hihi
In doing business, I always hope to make quite a big profit, considering that there is a process, there is effort and a long journey. So it's natural that I expect a lot from the business I run. Yes, when talking about gambling, placing high hopes on gambling is an uncertain dream, because there is not a single strategy or trick that can provide certainty that I will get a number of wins.

Lol. Then how do you intend to do this and have access to their algorithm? Doing that means you have captured the casino on the neck and you will milk them dry without having anything left but even if you successfully do it, you think the casino are that dumb to let you withdraw money? They wouldn't allow you or might suspend your account as soon as they find out your account is winning all the time, remember the replicate will do a perfect job and it will look too obvious.

If it's the way some casino quickly lock accounts for winning and suspect them of cheating and using some external cheat codes to win games, I'm not sure you will do 24 hours using that algorithm because they will log you out before you even know.

I would literally not bother going to secure a Job because I have before me a well paying source of income even with small stakes I will be able to grow my funds till it becomes more bigger then I will place bigger bets for bigger wins moreover I've got a sure idea about my prediction becoming such that will come out in my favour. Winning theses games will be my habit and by extension making money too will be a greater part of .y new habit because getting the algorithm behind the casino sounds like owning the casino it self.

You are literally going to be playing like a maestro because you definitely have no one to contend with Knowing the possible out come even before you play so all you have to do is just play the game and your winnings are guaranteed.

How could you think about this?
And of course no casino site will make it so easily for you to break the algorithm and have control over it or for it to work in your favor other than the casino owners, naturally casinos are designed to be bit hard for people that will win let just say those algorithm are designed to be 10 to 20 percentage harder for people to win meaning the chance of winning is just like 10 over 100 (10/100) or 20 over 100 (20/100). That is to say in every single bet or every game played you have a very slim chance to win because it was mainly designed to boost the income of the casino owners and not the gambler that is where we are getting it twisted yet we still say is a luck based game.

I don't think like that, even if we know the casino algorithm, we can't win continuously because the algorithm is only used for randomization.

I think the algorithms that casinos use are also very complicated and designed to benefit the casino. Maybe we can analyze the algorithm but we cannot know the results of the hash randomization. So in my opinion, it is impossible to win consistently even if we are experts in algorithms

Actually, casino games are not easy to predict, we often predict because we are gamblers, we are always looking for a pattern but we don't win and still rely on luck. The only thing that can be predicted in gambling is probably sports, our predictions are often correct here, but not in casinos.

The casino was the hardest part of the gambling site,because the gambler get confidence on the prediction.It also give faith to the gamblers as she win some big money into gambling site,later same faith will make you to deposit again and again to gain the loss money.But the casino is not only depend on the gambler prediction,sometimes it need of the gambler to change the tactics in the random time in the casino game.If the gamblers apply the same tactics through out the game the gambler will loss their money because of the same strategy till the money was loss in their wallet.


The algorithm was the base for the casino game,if you predict the algorithm with more accuracy.The gambler will get more possibilities of good winning,because the gambling site favour the person who do the betting in the most positive ways.The random betting also gives you good profit sometimes.

I have a lot of experience looking for patterns and I do not recommend it, those who look for patterns will always have bad results, I say this because I have applied those patterns and for that reason I believe that strategies in casinos do work, not a single strategy But if we know many strategies so that we can have clarity in the game, if we do and we have several options to do strategic strategies we can guarantee a good return in the casino, but when I play in crash and I apply a strategy that is so repetitive because I lose a lot .

When a strategy makes us win and if we continue applying it as it made us win, it can also make us lose, that is not good, because whenever I apply any strategy and lose a lot, what does it mean? I have to change it otherwise I will leave all my money in the casino losing in a stupid way, and that is not the idea, for the strategies I would like to always do the best to continue learning and do a better job in the casino, I seek to win and gain.

Game engine algorithms that claim to be fair shouldn't be predictable in any way even if you have access to the code. Even if this exists and the vulnerability is left unchecked, the first party to blame is the game developer. Game engines have usually gone through several complex tests and audits to ensure there are no loopholes. In the crypto casino industry, developers are also utilizing blockchain because it is a technology that has been proven to provide unpredictable RNG results.

Many years ago there was an exploit on Primedice in which users were able to access decrypted server seeds and manipulate results. It is possible for these types of vulnerabilities to exist but security is taken more seriously in online casinos today than it was in the early days of Bitcoin. If you found an exploit today you might have trouble withdrawing because casinos will delay your payment for a long time while they're doing KYC background checks and analyzing your betting history for any irregularities.

In short, if it's just like playing slot games in a casino, there's no need for techniques or skills. Then I didn't see anything in the casinos that happened in one day that most of the players who played on their gambling platform just won.

It seems that what you said is correct: most gamblers lose, and that is the design of casinos to always give the majority of gamblers a losing experience because that is where they make more money in the gambling business. They really have control; gamblers don't.

in theory, yes, if you know the algorithm of the game then you will be able to win the game well, but knowing the algorithm of a casino is very difficult considering that it is a casino secret. moreover, when you find out about it and exploit it for your own benefit, the casino's system will notice the unnatural activity and immediately the casino will freeze the account because of the unnatural activity. so it's useless if you know the algorithm of the casino because they have a system that can track the behavior of the players.

There are some instances that players might experience some bug and if they don't report it immediately to the representative or developers, they're going to exploit it and as they exploit, it will reflect to their balances as how these money came in to them winning that much because for sure that's how they're going to do it.

But then, upon withdrawal, if there are some unusual activities found on their accounts, they will be subject into investigation and might delay the withdrawal and that's going to be one reason for them to just admit it that they've abused the bug and that's going to forfeit their profits. They might even be lucky if the casino that they've exploited will still allow them to withdraw the principal amount that they have or the bankroll that they started with.

It's written all over your point, the word prediction is still prediction, which means that you can be wrong, safe yourself the stress, you can't beat the casinos at their games, they are programmed to always be the winner, even if they are using third party game providers, its wired to benefits the casinos more than the gamblers.

Why should anyone embark on this journey anyway? You can't know it unless you are into casino games building, only such people will have a clue and be able to predict what could be the next when gambling, for me it's not healthy at all, thinking that you can beat casinos at their game.

I accepted that gambling is all about getting lucky, that's why I won't gamble unless I have money I am willing to see gone, as a gambler if you can control yourself you have acquired power over many things.

Yes, this might be the case on early days of bitcoin gambling, as we all know that in the beginning there could be a lot of flaws and if you have enough technical skills you can used that and exploit the system to your advantage, similar to what someone did to exchange like Mt. Gox.

But right now, although there are reports of some exploit, the casino's are very quick to catch it and maybe the person who did that won't be able to withdraw that money if he thinks that he can continue to do that. And online casinos are also getting more sophisticated on finding cheaters on their system.

It might look like a good idea to think that if you know the algorithm of an online casino you can always win. But it is important to be careful with this idea. Algorithms are used to decide what happens in online casino games but you should be careful while applying this idea.
Online casinos use complicated algorithms to make sure their games are fair and random. These algorithms are always being changed and made better to stop anyone from predicting or cheating. So if anyone has the algorithm so this is not surety that he/she will use this algorithm all the time. So be careful.

Predicting and replicating an online casino's algorithm could offer a potential advantage, leading to consistent wins. However, attempting such actions is unethical, against terms of service, and risks legal consequences. Online casinos employ strict security measures to ensure fairness and discourage manipulation. It's crucial to approach online gaming with integrity and within ethical boundaries.

In theory, it is possible, but we have to think that that means we have to have the ability to enter the system, find the codes there, and use them for our benefit. It won't be easy because we will encounter difficulties before we can even enter the system because the casino, through its security team, will prevent anything from entering the site. That is why knowing the algorithm will never be easy unless we have excellent hacking skills. The casino team will also not let people who want to check the algorithm of their business because it concerns everything about their business.

Casinos are becoming more sophisticated over time. I agree with you that currently many online casinos implement complex algorithms and preventive measures to prevent cheating in the game. Some casinos will even freeze your account if they find even the slightest suspicion of cheating. And casinos have spent their budgets on hiring professional hackers whose job is to find bugs and loopholes that can be exploited and then create new security patches. So the chances of the casino algorithm getting a profit are close to 0.

You will be the luckiest gambler if you can have access to the algorithm of the casino so you can manipulate and win all the games, but it's the easiest way to get your account flagged, there's no such thing as winning all the games, casinos will eventually catch you because a casino's script has a security system that can monitor, check your account for manipulation, you cannot undermine the casino's security, its better to have one huge bet than trying to win in all the games.

The casinos are profit-driven companies they are not here to lose to gamblers, for 5 gamblers that play only 1 will win and most of the time it's the gamblers that bet low are the ones who are favored to win, so even if you know all the algorithm of a casino, you have to be wise to use so you will not get caught.

Obviously knowing the algorithm applied by the casino to the games provided will make you always be able to get a win in every session that is done but isn't that impossible? obviously, absolutely no one will know about the algorithms implemented by online casinos even for those who work there, because if any secrets are leaked even a little then obviously it is likely to make the casino bankrupt, on the other hand it will not be that easy and casinos must also have implemented very sophisticated security on the systems there to minimize as well as keep the money on gamblers rotating in every time.

Yes that's right, casinos apply algorithms like this because they prioritize gambling that runs randomly so that everything looks fair and only those who are really lucky can get a win in one of the sessions they do. So of course, don't do anything that can be suspicious because there is a high probability that your account will be frozen or other problems.

The way at which they set this game is really wonderful,because sometimes I sit to wonder why nobody have been able to understand their security code that will allow one know the method of winning them,but the more you tend to study how they set their games pattern,the more it becomes complicated and you lose more.I have used about a month in studying a whole series of the football casino virtual game,and at the end of the day,I still end up losing.They are really good at what they are doing.
The best option i have chose is to stop this gambling of a thing because it's not adding any value to my life.

Sports predictions are much easier to predict than casino games because with sport predictions, there's usually a pattern with which you can see playing out by virtue of statistics and most times some consistent tendencies around the sports which when seen a same pattern of occurrence usually takes place over time.

These casino machines are usually programed in a rewritable pattern which automatically generates new sequence in a very short interval making it almost unpredictable because they almost don't repeat after an overwrite so it's almost not possible to get a pattern from them and the algorithm can also not be decrypted with using a simple pattern it has a very high complexity which makes it very difficult to understand except for luck before you can win on them

how can the algorithm be predictable? even in casino games it will be very difficult for the algorithm to even be almost impossible to do things that are beyond the ability of gamblers even though there may be one gambler from all over the world who can do this but this is the same as fighting a casino system that will never work.
from what you said above, I'm just a little curious what your purpose is in saying this, when almost all luck-based casino games rely on random numbers which are very difficult to predict.

as long I have been a bettor, I have never seen a successful gambler do this because we must always remember that the casino system is always designed very strictly and any suspicious activity can always be noticed and on the one hand you also have to remember that no gambler wins consistently. while the casino will not allow its customers to get consistent wins.
so it's impossible if someone can do this.

Basically, the algorithm can guess, but in fact it cannot be predicted, and the definition of prediction is a possibility that is based on data or just assumptions based on what has been thought or seen.

Maybe there are some people who can read the algorithm, but they are definitely silent or they won't be known by the casino because there are irregularities in their winning activity in gambling, my friend was also like that and then his account was banned and the loopholes were repaired so it was difficult to come back. to get that because he stated that it was not easy to find loopholes.

Perhaps someone can understand the codes if they haven't been changed by the casino or perhaps only a few people understand the security codes. Yes, it is difficult to learn the patterns and find ways or methods to win the game because the casino must have blocked these ways or methods so that they are not misused, which can cause the casino to lose. And I agree with you. Instead of looking for something that we may not be able to find, it is better to stop gambling and not return to gambling for some time. It can make us stop thinking about it because at least we can rest our minds from such things. Perhaps doing something else would be more useful for us.

Only idiots bet on casino games. I'm a winning bettor but struggling to bet because limited on almost every book.

It would be near impossible to easily predict the algorithm because of the way it was designed to be of good favour to the house. If you never can predict such games is it the algorithm that you can predict or do you think the house is that naive to allow such happen to them?
One thing we should know is that things of such nature is always built in the way that the house is always favoured by the end results because to them it is a kind of investment that should always be in their own side because they assume players are just there to catch fun while playing so what point is it giving them everything back in the name of fun hence the tendencies to win a game became very minuit. That is why it is advisable to gamble just for fun.

I believe you have a point, casino games are not wired for the best of the gamblers, the algorithm in it is to favour the house, so there is no way many people try, though some would win, but the house will always win more. Those who are lucky can win big with casinos though, which is why I believe they are trying their luck all the time to play it over and over again, and who knows if they can actually win big. Casinos scare me to deposit big into my account and start playing due to this, but for the fun, I think the casino has the entertainment most as you can switch games and have fun.

It now depends on the reason why you are betting as you can actually plan your low-cost fun with it, and by having good plans alongside it, you will not even feel it if you lose money. Those who feel it are the ones that deposit big money into it which I do not often advise unless it is a sportsbook we are talking about just like you hinted as well.