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Title: I copied a chipmixer that uses testnet bitcoin.
Post by: ilovepython3 on January 19, 2024, 02:12:16 PM
I like Chipmixer very much. I have always thought it is a pity since Chipmixer was closed. I just happened to be learning programming.


Yes, I made a Bitcoin MIXER, but it couldn't truly realize the Bitcoin mixing. It was just a small test item for my learning programming. In the future, I will consider the public source code. My website only supports bitcoin Testnet, I am very supportive of the forum's decision to clean up Bitcoin Mixer. I hope this does not violate the rules, because this is not a Bitcoin Mixer that can be truly used.


It is just a small program that I want to use to pay tribute to Chipmixer and make it. It is more used to exercise my programming ability. It is similar to why Chipmixer looks very similar, because I really don’t know how to do the front end of the website, so I copied their front -end code from a false Chipmixer website, and also reminded everyone that Chipmixer has been closed. The chipmixer that can be found now is a false website, and they will steal your Bitcoin


Of course, I have made some changes. Chipmixer will split all Bitcoin into a form of 0.002, such as 0.001, 0.002, 0.004, 0.008, 0.016, 0.032, 0.064, 0.128, etc. My Program divided into 0.001, 0.002, 0.005, 0.01, 0.02, 0.05, 0.1, 0.2, 0.5, etc., I think this amount does not look so strange.


The Bitcoin of the test network can be obtained through https://coinfaucet.eu/en/btc-testnet/. After all the tests, I will return all my test Bitcoin to coinfaucet.eu

Don't send your real bitcoin here, you may lose your Bitcoin. If you are willing to use TestNet's Bitcoin for testing, I will thank you very much. You can reply with any questions.

Don't send your real bitcoin here, you may lose your Bitcoin. If you are willing to use TestNet's Bitcoin for testing, I will thank you very much. You can reply with any questions.

Don't send your real bitcoin here, you may lose your Bitcoin. If you are willing to use TestNet's Bitcoin for testing, I will thank you very much. You can reply with any questions.

Onion link
http://upbj6a5xmechltnyohxp52w33rwznfcejljmgtklq52vzypqzp65rvid.onion (http://upbj6a5xmechltnyohxp52w33rwznfcejljmgtklq52vzypqzp65rvid.onion)

ClearNet
https://dontsendrealbtchere.xyz (https://dontsendrealbtchere.xyz)


Title: Re: I copied a chipmixer that uses testnet bitcoin.
Post by: AB de Royse777 on January 19, 2024, 06:37:04 PM
I don't have testnet coins but whatever you are doing, I hope you will bring a working product soon.

Just to remain you, bitcointalk no more allow bitcoin mixers and I am not so sure if they will allow a discussion about creating a mixer too. But I hope they do since here we have nothing about doing bitcoin mixing in commercial level. So far it's a personal fun project to test skills.


Title: Re: I copied a chipmixer that uses testnet bitcoin.
Post by: JeromeTash on January 19, 2024, 08:58:28 PM
I understand the Nostalgia regarding the once great mixer, but what do you intend to achieve with this?
Is it just for fun?
Is it worth the trouble?
Personally, I don't think it's a good Idea playing around or creating a parody of a mixer that got seized by law enforcement. Had it just voluntarily shutdown, maybe that would be Ok IMO.


Title: Re: I copied a chipmixer that uses testnet bitcoin.
Post by: Stalker22 on January 19, 2024, 10:31:47 PM
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I hope this does not violate the rules, because this is not a Bitcoin Mixer that can be truly used.

Promoting services that primarily serve for coin mixing is no longer allowed on this forum.

- Mixer announcement threads are not allowed. †

You can read the whole announcement from theymos here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5476162.0), and I believe your project falls under that category. However, I am not entirely sure if this also applies to the Bitcoin testnet.  I think it does.

You better delete the onion address from your post and ask for clarification in the Meta section, otherwise your account may be locked.


Title: Re: I copied a chipmixer that uses testnet bitcoin.
Post by: ilovepython3 on January 20, 2024, 01:55:10 AM
I don't have testnet coins but whatever you are doing, I hope you will bring a working product soon.

Just to remain you, bitcointalk no more allow bitcoin mixers and I am not so sure if they will allow a discussion about creating a mixer too. But I hope they do since here we have nothing about doing bitcoin mixing in commercial level. So far it's a personal fun project to test skills.


Thank you for your reply, you can get free bitcoins for testnet by using google search bitcoin testnet faucet, to get free bitcoins for the test network


Title: Re: I copied a chipmixer that uses testnet bitcoin.
Post by: ilovepython3 on January 20, 2024, 02:01:31 AM
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I hope this does not violate the rules, because this is not a Bitcoin Mixer that can be truly used.

Promoting services that primarily serve for coin mixing is no longer allowed on this forum.

- Mixer announcement threads are not allowed. †

You can read the whole announcement from theymos here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5476162.0), and I believe your project falls under that category. However, I am not entirely sure if this also applies to the Bitcoin testnet.  I think it does.

You better delete the onion address from your post and ask for clarification in the Meta section, otherwise your account may be locked.


Thank you for your reply, I read the forum rules carefully, I think the reason why the forum blocked mixer, firstly mixer may involve breaking the law, secondly mixer may steal user's coins, like I said, what I did was just a mixer like site using bitcoin test network, even if this is available now, I may still continue to re-do it in the future using golang and python as an exercise of my programming language



Title: Re: I copied a chipmixer that uses testnet bitcoin.
Post by: ilovepython3 on January 20, 2024, 02:15:12 AM
I understand the Nostalgia regarding the once great mixer, but what do you intend to achieve with this?
Is it just for fun?
Is it worth the trouble?
Personally, I don't think it's a good Idea playing around or creating a parody of a mixer that got seized by law enforcement. Had it just voluntarily shutdown, maybe that would be Ok IMO.

Thank you for your reply, what you said will give me something to think about


Title: Re: I copied a chipmixer that uses testnet bitcoin.
Post by: ABCbits on January 20, 2024, 10:19:53 AM
It is just a small program that I want to use to pay tribute to Chipmixer and make it. It is more used to exercise my programming ability. It is similar to why Chipmixer looks very similar, because I really don’t know how to do the front end of the website, so I copied their front -end code from a false Chipmixer website, and also reminded everyone that Chipmixer has been closed. The chipmixer that can be found now is a false website, and they will steal your Bitcoin

Onion Address
http://upbj6a5xmechltnyohxp52w33rwznfcejljmgtklq52vzypqzp65rvid.onion (http://upbj6a5xmechltnyohxp52w33rwznfcejljmgtklq52vzypqzp65rvid.onion)

I hope you get some useful experience here. Anyway, even if you don't have front-end experience, re-using Chipmixer name and logo image without any modification seems to be risky.

Of course, I have made some changes. Chipmixer will split all Bitcoin into a form of 0.002, such as 0.001, 0.002, 0.004, 0.008, 0.016, 0.032, 0.064, 0.128, etc. My Program divided into 0.001, 0.002, 0.005, 0.01, 0.02, 0.05, 0.1, 0.2, 0.5, etc., I think this amount does not look so strange.

Actually i prefer your choice of numbers. Although Chipmixer did that since it let their user split or join chips easier.

Cloudflare Tunnel Address
https://magnetic-pants-homepage-mapping.trycloudflare.com (https://magnetic-pants-homepage-mapping.trycloudflare.com)

FYI i can't access that link even after using few different browsers and connections.


Title: Re: I copied a chipmixer that uses testnet bitcoin.
Post by: ilovepython3 on January 20, 2024, 11:24:02 AM
It is just a small program that I want to use to pay tribute to Chipmixer and make it. It is more used to exercise my programming ability. It is similar to why Chipmixer looks very similar, because I really don’t know how to do the front end of the website, so I copied their front -end code from a false Chipmixer website, and also reminded everyone that Chipmixer has been closed. The chipmixer that can be found now is a false website, and they will steal your Bitcoin

Onion Address
http://upbj6a5xmechltnyohxp52w33rwznfcejljmgtklq52vzypqzp65rvid.onion (http://upbj6a5xmechltnyohxp52w33rwznfcejljmgtklq52vzypqzp65rvid.onion)

I hope you get some useful experience here. Anyway, even if you don't have front-end experience, re-using Chipmixer name and logo image without any modification seems to be risky.

Of course, I have made some changes. Chipmixer will split all Bitcoin into a form of 0.002, such as 0.001, 0.002, 0.004, 0.008, 0.016, 0.032, 0.064, 0.128, etc. My Program divided into 0.001, 0.002, 0.005, 0.01, 0.02, 0.05, 0.1, 0.2, 0.5, etc., I think this amount does not look so strange.

Actually i prefer your choice of numbers. Although Chipmixer did that since it let their user split or join chips easier.

Cloudflare Tunnel Address
https://magnetic-pants-homepage-mapping.trycloudflare.com (https://magnetic-pants-homepage-mapping.trycloudflare.com)

FYI i can't access that link even after using few different browsers and connections.

Thank you for your reply, I confirmed that I made a mistake and that the channel built with cloudflare tunnel doesn't work for a long time!



Title: Re: I copied a chipmixer that uses testnet bitcoin.
Post by: Knight Hider on January 21, 2024, 05:51:09 AM
I sent 0.002 tBTC (before reading the minimum is 0.01), and received a chip right after the first confirmation. The chip address has been reused: https://live.blockcypher.com/btc-testnet/address/tb1qrzlyqff8tl7zsfq4w734v75dtk0qxet5pkr43z/
If you use this address again, I can sweep it. Address reuse is bad.


Title: Re: I copied a chipmixer that uses testnet bitcoin.
Post by: ilovepython3 on January 21, 2024, 06:25:35 AM
I sent 0.002 tBTC (before reading the minimum is 0.01), and received a chip right after the first confirmation. The chip address has been reused: https://live.blockcypher.com/btc-testnet/address/tb1qrzlyqff8tl7zsfq4w734v75dtk0qxet5pkr43z/
If you use this address again, I can sweep it. Address reuse is bad.

First of all, I thank you very much because you are the first person to complete the test. Regarding some of the questions you responded to, I need to explain that the minimum recharge value should be 0.001, which is also the smallest chip that has been stored, not what is displayed. 0.01, I plagiarized the front-end and forgot to modify it. Regarding the issue of address reuse, I was actually lazy. I directly released my test environment without modification. Almost all my tbtc comes from coinfaucet.eu, some kind of Situationally speaking, obtaining tbtc may be more difficult than real bitcoin. If I recreated a wallet and generated some new address before publishing, I wouldn't have this problem. Thank you again.


Title: Re: I copied a chipmixer that uses testnet bitcoin.
Post by: hugeblack on January 22, 2024, 07:48:49 AM
Don't send your real bitcoin here, you may lose your Bitcoin. If you are willing to use TestNet's Bitcoin for testing, I will thank you very much. You can reply with any questions.

I don't want to be disappointed, but you did not explicitly mention that on the page, on the contrary, it is mentioned below.

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We don't recommend mixing the same amount of bitcoins over and over again in a short period of time!

You can copy the working mechanism of chipmixer, but do not copy the same code. There are millions of templates, so there is no need to link the service to chipmixer, which a hacker can exploit in the future if there are high traffic to your domain.
I did not understand the purpose of the service, is it a faucet? If so why do I need to deposit first, if not a faucet why do I need to mix tBitcoins?


Title: Re: I copied a chipmixer that uses testnet bitcoin.
Post by: NotATether on January 22, 2024, 05:53:38 PM
Just to remain you, bitcointalk no more allow bitcoin mixers and I am not so sure if they will allow a discussion about creating a mixer too. But I hope they do since here we have nothing about doing bitcoin mixing in commercial level. So far it's a personal fun project to test skills.

The bold part is allowed - ANY discussion about mixers is allowed as long as you don't link to their websites.


Title: Re: I copied a chipmixer that uses testnet bitcoin.
Post by: BlackHatCoiner on January 22, 2024, 06:25:06 PM
Heyy, ChipMixer, long time no see!  ;D

I hope this does not violate the rules, because this is not a Bitcoin Mixer that can be truly used.
It does not violate any rule. It is forbidden to direct people to Bitcoin mixers, but this one does not even have to do with real bitcoin. You're just playing with testnet.

I understand the Nostalgia regarding the once great mixer, but what do you intend to achieve with this?
If you think about it, there is no easy way to mix testnet bitcoins. You may be wondering why would one want privacy in testnet, but I'm sure there is a reason or two. For example, you might not want to reveal you own a faucet. That is a feedback for the project too.

That being said, I also experienced (https://blockstream.info/testnet/address/tb1qnznws74w87ehm4wlx6hm7mf3elem3fu9e8udtt) address reuse, which I suppose is a realized decision by the OP. BTW, that allows me to steal every deposit.


Title: Re: I copied a chipmixer that uses testnet bitcoin.
Post by: dkbit98 on January 22, 2024, 08:15:28 PM
@ilovepython3
I think you need to rename this service, maybe slightly modify design and logo, make amount corrections, and add clear note that everything is for test purposes only with tesnet coins.
Idea for testnet mixer is not bad, especially for someone want's to hide how much tBTC he owns, and I already see you have some advertisement posted on the page bottom ;)


Title: Re: I copied a chipmixer that uses testnet bitcoin.
Post by: ilovepython3 on January 23, 2024, 11:03:11 AM
Don't send your real bitcoin here, you may lose your Bitcoin. If you are willing to use TestNet's Bitcoin for testing, I will thank you very much. You can reply with any questions.

I don't want to be disappointed, but you did not explicitly mention that on the page, on the contrary, it is mentioned below.

Quote
We don't recommend mixing the same amount of bitcoins over and over again in a short period of time!

You can copy the working mechanism of chipmixer, but do not copy the same code. There are millions of templates, so there is no need to link the service to chipmixer, which a hacker can exploit in the future if there are high traffic to your domain.
I did not understand the purpose of the service, is it a faucet? If so why do I need to deposit first, if not a faucet why do I need to mix tBitcoins?

Thank you for your reply, I have made changes to the template, as for the one I made, it is actually a bitcoin mixer similar to chipmixer, I want to make sure that the mixer I made is able to run properly, bitcointalk forums no longer support the release of the bitcoin mixer, and I don't want to spend a lot of money to buy bitcoins to test this project, this is just a small project for me to learn programming, so it only supports the use of the bitcoin testnet to test now!

No one needs a tbtc mixer, you're absolutely right.This project is posted in the hope that people will help identify possible problems with the current project, not as a simple tbtc mixer.


Title: Re: I copied a chipmixer that uses testnet bitcoin.
Post by: ilovepython3 on January 23, 2024, 11:14:09 AM

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If you think about it, there is no easy way to mix testnet bitcoins. You may be wondering why would one want privacy in testnet, but I'm sure there is a reason or two. For example, you might not want to reveal you own a faucet. That is a feedback for the project too.

That being said, I also experienced (https://blockstream.info/testnet/address/tb1qnznws74w87ehm4wlx6hm7mf3elem3fu9e8udtt) address reuse, which I suppose is a realized decision by the OP. BTW, that allows me to steal every deposit.

Thank you for your reply, I don’t think you can take away the deposit other than the Bitcoin address you have a private key.

I've done multiple tests locally myself, so there are multiple transaction logs for these bitcoin addresses, and these logs are from my previous tests locally, and I'll admit that I've been lazy, but there's no reuse of addresses in this program, and once you've successfully deposit and gotten your private key, I don't continue to test with that address, and I'd like to discuss it if there are any other ways for you to take away other bitcoins.


Title: Re: I copied a chipmixer that uses testnet bitcoin.
Post by: ilovepython3 on January 23, 2024, 11:23:44 AM
@ilovepython3
I think you need to rename this service, maybe slightly modify design and logo, make amount corrections, and add clear note that everything is for test purposes only with tesnet coins.
Idea for testnet mixer is not bad, especially for someone want's to hide how much tBTC he owns, and I already see you have some advertisement posted on the page bottom ;)


Thanks for the reply, I've changed the design and removed the logo, I don't think there is any need for a testnet bitcoin mixer to exist, I'm not trying to be a tbtc mixer but it's not a real bitcoin mixer because of the forum rules and the fact that I don't have enough bitcoin personally


Title: Re: I copied a chipmixer that uses testnet bitcoin.
Post by: Knight Hider on January 24, 2024, 04:43:30 AM
It was just a small test item for my learning programming.
To learn more, add split and function to withdraw only part of the chips. I sent 0.011 tBTC and want a voucher for 0.001 while withdrawing 0.01.

Here's a 0.001 voucher:KNGKz2LuIH9ONudZ.
Take it if you want testnet Bitcoin.


Title: Re: I copied a chipmixer that uses testnet bitcoin.
Post by: ilovepython3 on January 24, 2024, 09:42:28 AM
It was just a small test item for my learning programming.
To learn more, add split and function to withdraw only part of the chips. I sent 0.011 tBTC and want a voucher for 0.001 while withdrawing 0.01.

Here's a 0.001 voucher:KNGKz2LuIH9ONudZ.
Take it if you want testnet Bitcoin.

Thanks for the second test, the split function is a bit tricky to implement, if the value of each chip is in the form of 2 powers, every chip can be used for splitting and merging except for 0.001, I will continue to think about this. As for extracting some of the chips, that's a good suggestion, I'll try to do that when I have some free time!


Title: Re: I copied a chipmixer that uses testnet bitcoin.
Post by: Woodie on January 24, 2024, 10:16:08 AM
Let me get myself some testnet Bitcoin and see how much of a good job you have done here  ;D

See you in the future :)


Title: Re: I copied a chipmixer that uses testnet bitcoin.
Post by: paid2 on January 25, 2024, 10:10:32 AM
This project is super fun and interesting!

I'm going to test it and see how it works, I've got some tbtc dust lying around.



Lol I find it very funny that you even kept the message posted on chipmixer after it was seized:
https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/01/25/kzf2f.png

The link leads to: https://www.karriere.bka.de/Karriereportal/DE/Startseite/startseite_node.html
 ;D


Title: Re: I copied a chipmixer that uses testnet bitcoin.
Post by: ilovepython3 on January 26, 2024, 01:52:52 PM
Let me get myself some testnet Bitcoin and see how much of a good job you have done here  ;D

See you in the future :)

Thank you for your reply, looking forward to your feedback!


Title: Re: I copied a chipmixer that uses testnet bitcoin.
Post by: ilovepython3 on January 26, 2024, 01:59:34 PM
This project is super fun and interesting!

I'm going to test it and see how it works, I've got some tbtc dust lying around.



Lol I find it very funny that you even kept the message posted on chipmixer after it was seized:
https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/01/25/kzf2f.png

The link leads to: https://www.karriere.bka.de/Karriereportal/DE/Startseite/startseite_node.html
 ;D

Thank you for your reply, you are very careful, I did copy chipmixer's front-end, I am currently learning bootstrap, but also trying to re-do a front-end does not look ugly, I believe that soon we will be able to see, for the program features also do a little bit of modification, wait for me to test no problem on the release!


Title: Re: I copied a chipmixer that uses testnet bitcoin.
Post by: ilovepython3 on February 02, 2024, 01:34:23 PM
After listening to everyone’s opinions, I learned CSS from scratch and rewrote the front end of the website, adding some functions. Thank you for testing.


Title: Re: I copied a chipmixer that uses testnet bitcoin.
Post by: dkbit98 on February 02, 2024, 05:01:57 PM
After listening to everyone’s opinions, I learned CSS from scratch and rewrote the front end of the website, adding some functions. Thank you for testing.
I see you completely changed the design and there is no more advertisement banner on the bottom, but strange that I still still old CM logo on the right side.

And I wanted to ask do you have enough liquidity for testnet coins, let's say if someone wanted to send larger amount of coins (over 20 or 30), or it's only available for smaller amounts?

Quote
For transactions under 20 BTC we require 1 confirmation.
For higher amounts we require 6 confirmations.

This suggest that you have over 20 tBTC.



All I am getting after testing this service is this error message when I get to the step of withdrawing my coins... so effectively they are lost and impossible to withdraw :P

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/02/02/vULsa.jpeg




Title: Re: I copied a chipmixer that uses testnet bitcoin.
Post by: paid2 on February 02, 2024, 06:00:15 PM
I see you completely changed the design and there is no more advertisement banner on the bottom, but strange that I still still old old CM logo on the right side.

Could it be because of your web browser cache? Asking because I don't see any CM logo on the website now.


After listening to everyone’s opinions, I learned CSS from scratch and rewrote the front end of the website, adding some functions. Thank you for testing.

You did a good work, well done! You seem to be learning fast with this project!


Title: Re: I copied a chipmixer that uses testnet bitcoin.
Post by: ilovepython3 on February 03, 2024, 02:25:27 AM
After listening to everyone’s opinions, I learned CSS from scratch and rewrote the front end of the website, adding some functions. Thank you for testing.
I see you completely changed the design and there is no more advertisement banner on the bottom, but strange that I still still old CM logo on the right side.

And I wanted to ask do you have enough liquidity for testnet coins, let's say if someone wanted to send larger amount of coins (over 20 or 30), or it's only available for smaller amounts?

Quote
For transactions under 20 BTC we require 1 confirmation.
For higher amounts we require 6 confirmations.

This suggest that you have over 20 tBTC.



All I am getting after testing this service is this error message when I get to the step of withdrawing my coins... so effectively they are lost and impossible to withdraw :P

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/02/02/vULsa.jpeg


First of all I want to apologize to you, I made a very low level mistake, I have fixed the error in the code, you can try to re-enter through your session ID, again I apologize.
Actually I don't have 20tbtc, that introduction is from chipmixer, I only have about 0.5tbtc to test, because it's a test program, so this aspect is not done very rigorously, theoretically, it should be introduced next to the recharge address of the maximum recharge amount allowed, thank you for the test!





Title: Re: I copied a chipmixer that uses testnet bitcoin.
Post by: ilovepython3 on February 03, 2024, 02:36:01 AM
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You did a good work, well done! You seem to be learning fast with this project!

Thank you for your reply, I did learn a lot from the process, and nonetheless thank you all for the test!


Title: Re: I copied a chipmixer that uses testnet bitcoin.
Post by: d3bt3 on February 04, 2024, 02:11:06 PM
Quote

You did a good work, well done! You seem to be learning fast with this project!

Thank you for your reply, I did learn a lot from the process, and nonetheless thank you all for the test!
Great project! Do you need more testnet coins?


Title: Re: I copied a chipmixer that uses testnet bitcoin.
Post by: paid2 on February 04, 2024, 02:13:11 PM
Great project! Do you need more testnet coins?

Yeah I was going to ask the same question.

OP I can send you my dust instead to send it to faucets.


Title: Re: I copied a chipmixer that uses testnet bitcoin.
Post by: Knight Hider on February 04, 2024, 05:28:35 PM
OP I can send you my dust instead to send it to faucets.
You can test the Donate button after depositing.


Title: Re: I copied a chipmixer that uses testnet bitcoin.
Post by: dkbit98 on February 05, 2024, 11:20:29 PM
First of all I want to apologize to you, I made a very low level mistake, I have fixed the error in the code, you can try to re-enter through your session ID, again I apologize.
Actually I don't have 20tbtc, that introduction is from chipmixer, I only have about 0.5tbtc to test, because it's a test program, so this aspect is not done very rigorously, theoretically, it should be introduced next to the recharge address of the maximum recharge amount allowed, thank you for the test!
Apology accepted, and everything is working again, but you are lucky that this was only testnet bitcoin. ;)

If you don't have 20 tBTC than you need to make a correction on website to avoid confusion, and write maximum amount of coins that are available before mixing procedure started.

And how can I know that private keys are not stored on some cloud aka hard disk?