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When I woke today I was flabbergasted concerning signature payment when I viewed participate payment payroll but I was like how did the campaign managers get the funds they pay participants of their various campaigns, and secondly how does what we write in the forum convert to money that makes the managers to deem it fit to make sure their is available funds weekly to pay their participants, I was wondering and same time became astonished where the funds is coming from or the bitcoin the mangers pays to their designated participants is from the forum or someone else I gives the funds to the management of forum to pay whosoever that is in the forum

At service board I have applied in open slot that fall to my category of rank specification for signature but when I calculated the what is being spent in all the participants in different signature campaign is huge and the payment have hierarchy, now the question is what is the source of various signatures campaign having funds to pay all their participants, I think my question have repeat itself twice in this thread.

Again can we be ask to return any funds that is being paid to us in future time, most of you who has being here for long-term have you be questioned in one way to the other for refund of payments from the designated signatures campaign you find yourself into.

The signatures are advertisements. The company that is advertising through signature are the ones paying.

Just as people advertise for a company and get paid as they bring more customers

Money paid already can not be returned.

Signature Campaign Guidelines (read this before starting or joining a campaign) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1684035.0)

Signature campaign is a type of marketing and it is a part of company, business. You work for them in a signature campaign to advertise their company, business. They pay you and there is a signature campaign manager who can be either from the company or from a third party like a Bitcointalk member.

If a manager sees you make good posts in general, manager will hire you to work for the company and you will be chosen in a signature campaign.

This is simple, it is not the campaign managers that are paying from their pocket but the companies you see their logos on the campaign banners. If you click on the banner, there is a link there and you will be directed to the company's website. This means that we are generating traffic for the company, so it is a pure marketing tactic.

Your pay is also commensurate to your work and your rank in the fourm.

No one will ever ask you to refund any money previously paid to you for your campaign participation so far you qualified for it, didn't defraud and did your work diligently and didn't impersonate anyone.

Thou many will see this as a funny question, but to me its better for beginner to ask questions rather than acts ignorantly, which is the reason why I will be answering you on the importance of signature campaigns here on this forum as follows,

Okay, the funds used in running a signature campaigns are always been provided by the company (i.e casino or mixers) who intends to advertise their services. Because one thing you need to know is that bitcointalk is not just a forum, but a large community of Bitcoin users, known to be getting over 2 to 3 million monthly website visits from people all around the world, of which the best place to advertise a Bitcoin service, is in a Bitcoin community like this. Hence, that's why when a project gets launch, they always rushes to advertise it's service to the millions of people present here for greater exposure.

When it comes to online marketing, attention and quality review is money, because when people on this forum test a service and they are satisfied with how it works, they will likely advertise the service to others who will later advertise to others, and the chain keeps going.. Hence quality review is what will drive other people to a casino or site, who will in return engage in gambling, and at the end the casino generate more revenue

How flabbergasted enough were you  ???  For you to have existed in the forum up to a full member ranking you ought to have known all of these by now.

To your question, campaign managers are not the ones paying participants from their own pocket, it's the company that owns the  project or brand the campaign participants are advertising they are the actual payers, the campaign manager is to what can be simply referred to as an agent/coordinator of the campaign.

Just as the preceding comment, no you don't refund payments as a campaign participants, except in rare cases where the campaign manager maybe due to exhaustion out of his many busy schedule made an overpayment to the participants, he then may deduct it from their next payment accordingly, but if it happened that a participant left the very campaign to another within the week he will have to refund the overpaid amount due his former campaign manager.

Hope this answers your question.

Considering how much time you have spent on this forum, you should have known all these answers. You have been here for over a year now. But never mind, someone might not be interested in some particular sections. The signature displays under our posts are just advertisements of a Company. For example, I am promoting shuffle.com. Now, ask yourself who should pay us for that? Shouldn't it be the shuffle.com?

If you see an advertisement of a Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra on the television, who is paying for that advertisement? My common sense says it is the Samsung company itself. Now, It's not possible for the Samsung owner to pay each and every television channel. They have hired a manager to handle those marketing things who is responsible for paying for those Televisions. It's the same here. Every company hire a manager to manage their campaigns and the manager pay to their perticipants. I am sorry, but these are stupid questions.

That makes the payment in bitcointalk, service section is as form of you are working and they are paying you accordingly to your work because if the funds cannot be returned to the source that pays you that you are like someone who is working like per hour job depends on what you do.

Literally this forum is nice, I think that should be the reason @ lovesmayfamilis asked to buy my own phone that with signature campaign I will recover the money, I think if we take this place serious we maybe working both offline and online and get paid, I thought is only learning of bitcoin and ask questions that we don't know for bitcoin transactions and bitcoin investment

The campaign managers scam the project owners, that's why they have money.
The participants are using phishing sites, so the project owners can earn money /jk.

No, as long as they paid you accordingly based on what you should receive, you don't have to refund the additional funds.

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Well you can, just thinking it like a side hustle, I guess many users in this forum are like that.

I wonder how you managed to rank up to Full member rank without knowing these basic things about Forum and Signature Campaigns? I can see you've been residing mostly in the Local board during your time in the forum. but still...
Anyway. So signature campaigns are types of Advertisements Companies pay users in BTC for wearing their Banner Ads in their signature space. so whenever they make a post in forum, their ads will be seen by other readers, this way company promote their product to forum users.
You've probably seen ads in Youtube, Facebook and anywhere else. so think of it same as them.

If the manager on a particular campaign by mistake send amount of Bitcoin that is above your weekly payment as a full member or above,  it will be possible for you to return the double payment you receive from the manager or else you will be reported to where the matter will be look into and if you find guilty on such double payment either you return the Bitcoin for the manager to resend the weekly  payment rank member you are due for in the campaign. Any member rank, full member rank, hero members and legendary member see wearing signature and avatar in a signature campaign, show that he or she is helping a particular company to advertise their company and the company have amount of Bitcoin be budgeted on a signature campaign. I can see you just rank up to full member, and any signature campaign you apply and the manager in that campaign accepted you as a full member show that you will be receiving Bitcoin weekly for the signature and avatar you wear to help the company to advertise.

I didn’t fully understand everything, but yes, there was probably a day when I advised the OP to buy a personal phone so that he would not mix his account information with someone else.
That said, OP, I'm glad you initially saw the forum as a place to explore, and if you're sincere, people like this are quite rare on the forum who don't come primarily to make money.
I haven't looked at your post history, but I see you quite often. Keep participating in the discussions, and you can take advantage of the forum privilege to get paid for what you post here.
All the best. :)

How can you be surprised and at the same time concerned about signature campaign payment? I do not understand what you meant by being here from 2022 you should be aware of the ranks and how the signature campaign plays an important role in keeping the forum alive and not deserted.


Signature campaigns are nothing but marketing campaigns as Bitcointalk is the forum for Bitcoin holders these campaigns are run to promote a product that uses Bitcoin for revenue generation. Not all the revenue comes from Bitcoin for the project, whereas a majority comes from it.



As I have mentioned earlier it falls under marketing expense. Ranked up is not that easy to get on Bitcointalk and that is why a higher rank member gets paid more than a lower one. Do not go into the calculation as to how much a campaign is paying in total to all its members. There was a time when the total amount might compete with a big company's advertisement revenue.


If you are part of a signature campaign then it your earning and no one would ask you to refund it. Unless you have been paid extra accidentally or you were not supposed to get paid.

Holy shit...why on Earth do you think you can deceive yourself under the pretence of being a juvenile needle not knowing what's happening here. I smell some child play here explaining to yourself with some funny questions like you are new here.
I hate it when alt tend to play a red pink game here after you have applied for multiple campaigns and you are still blind enough not to know how things work here. You can't delude us with crappy questions that have no muscles. You are looking for attention but trust me, you'll get it soon.

Can we be asked to refund the money being paid to us in the future? What a crappy question dick head!
What planet are you from for crying out loud! My kid would never ask me this kind of question, oh shit!
You have full member account for crying out loud! What were you told when you first join this forum?
Why did you decided to grow your account up to this level?
Why did you apolied for multiple campaigns when you don't understand what signature means? Your questions are just annoying!
Are you trying to pull our legs? Don't ask this kind of silly questions again, novice dude!

When I was the same as you rank I think I have already figured out how the signature campaign works, to make it simple it's just an advertisement that you wear then you get paid. Of course, some companies would hire someone to manage the payments and to check the quality of posts that the members have since there are people who are already experienced in this kind of thing like known managers here in the forum, you can see their names most of the time in multiple campaigns. If you want to gain customers you would make a marketing plan such as advertising such as wearing their banners, signature, logos, etc. You have reached that rank, for sure you have already explored the forum itself like the rules and regulations. There's nothing wrong with asking for questions but if you can find a solution to your concern, there's a search bar in the forum as well in the google.

First of all, this post has nothing to do with bitcoin and you should consider moving it to beginners and help where it belongs. The nature of your questions and considering the rank of your account put everyone in shock and no one notice that this is a bitcoin discussion board.

I take a look at your profile and I discovered that you are from Nigeria which make it more difficult to believe in your ignorance on signature campaigns. Looking at your posts, they are not bad either but I doubt if this question is genuine. You already applied for some campaigns and if I should ask, how could you applied for what you claim you have know idea about? You don't get into something you have no knowledge about. If you get accepted into the campaign, what's the next question? Please help, I have been accepted into signature campaign but I don't know how to do it, right? Lol

A simple check on service board pin posts would be helpful if you are serious. Learning is a continuous process but I see this post as a disgrace to your rank.

it's marketing. crypto companies have limited audiences which means there are only a very few percentage of people around the world to market their services and most of them are in the crypto sites including this forum. when i say people that includes the gamblers.

when the marketing is successful that means the company also profits which i think the BTC circulates from employing users to clients and back to the crypto company.

With the number of comments you have on this thread already, I trust that you already have your answer, but to be honest with you, I am kind of surprised that a full member rank have no idea of how signature campaigns work or how the campaign managers get the fund to which they use to pay their campaign participants.

I took a look at your profile and discovered you've been on this forum since 2022, and you mean to tell us that it is now that you woke up to the reality of signature campaigns?

I am kinda wondering, or suspecting rather, that you possibly bought this account, for there are questions meant for newbies and questions meant for OGs, and as an OG that you are, questions like this about signature campaign is not supposed to be coming from you but from a newbie.

But again, what do I know? I am just stating what I think.

It's one whole big process and I think the crypto companies themselves are benefiting alot and that's why they don't relent as we see that their numbers continue to be massive in the crypto space and more companies keep coming up, this community is indeed one of the few places where these companies can advertise their service and even also have lots of clients to patronize them because lots of users here also use these crypto companies services they render.

Just for clarity, is this thread worth being in the bitcoin discussion board, because I don't see anything as related to bitcoin.

Back to the question, signature just like every other form of advisement, is sponsorship comes from the companies that are advertised, and the manager is just like the HRM who coordinates the the marketing here, and regardless of what the participants are discussing as long as they are wearing the companies signature, they get paid for every posts in acceptable boards and thread's.

It’s a nice question, if you’re asking maybe the signatures companies runs here actually gives them a the visibility they want, I will say in a very long run yes but just like short advertisement if you don’t elongate your time here advertising I don’t think the company will actually make the profit they Desire. As for the funds use to pay signature participants it is definitely part of the fund’s budgeted for advertisements by the company because it is one of the most important structural part of any business.


Nobody will actually ask for a refund, if it’s that way it will be clearly stated here by the campaign managers. Yes advertisement paves way for the success of a business but it doesn’t guarantees it, other things like how significant your product is actually does. So the funds spend on advertising cannot be asked to be refunded by the company running the advertisement except as I said it’s in the contract terms.

Not everyone in the forum knows where service board is, if you don't calm down and looked at the forum you will not understand exactly the system of forum, my main aim to come forum is to know bitcoin and I consistently reading post in bitcoin discussion and trading boards all posts that relates with bitcoin, unless someone brought you to the forum and information all the necessary things you need to know before you can know that service board is a place you make a post and get paid.

I rather continue to ask a question of what I don't know than beating around the corner, most of us will be adamant without making their obligations to be visible.
what's a disgrace to you is a lesson to another person and secondly the ending of someone knowledge is the beginning of another persons knowledge [edge]

thank you..its your advice that motivate me more in the forum, if everyone is like you in the forum many people will ginger up to do better in the forum, your first advice makes to remember my past and will continue to be grateful to you until I leave this forum, your advice is memory to me.

This thread is no where close to Bitcoin discussion thread. It is best fit for service discussion. The next fitting board after service discussion is Meta.

It will be more understandable and clear if OP sees signature campaign as an advertisement. If he sees it as something else apart from advertisement, it will lead to more misunderstanding. If I am paid to advertise a particular product, after advertising the product, will I be asked to return the money I used in advertising? There's nothing difficult to understand about signature campaign. The only valid question I will entertain from a newbie is how signature campaign benefits the projects using it and not how projects like casinos raise funds.

First of all, please move your thread to the Service Discussion Board. It doesn't belong to the Bitcoin discussion board anyway. However, each signature campaign has rules, and the company assigns a manager on their behalf in case they don't want to handle it by themselves. So the manager applies some criteria to accept participants and assigns them accordingly. Of course, the company monitors the manager to see if they are working as promised. So at the end of the week, managers handle post counts and make payments accordingly. So everything is setup here; no confusion.

The projects running the campaign provides the funds for the campaign, no manager uses his money to launched a campaign unless the manager is also the owner of the project so you don't need to be scared as the campaign funds is always covered weekly by the projects that launched their campaign on the forum. Some campaign escrow their campaign funds with the managers for several weeks or months while other campaign pay weekly directly to the participants of the campaign.


When you join a campaign, you're advertising a company ads on your signature space so you're promoting that projects and your promotion brings direct sales of whatever goods or services that they're rendering. While on other occasions your promotion gets their ads to bring popularity to the project and make their brand more known which benefits the project. They're paying you to promote them and that's why you get paid for what you wrote on the forum.


You were hired to work and after you work you deserve to be paid, nobody can ask you to return the funds you work for unless you were over paid. You can only be asked for a refund when you didn't do your work properly and the manager made a mistake to pay you but provided you did your job excellently as the campaigns demanded, you don't owe anybody a refund.

The simple answer to your question is they obey free market laws. They want to spend money on campaigns because they did some research and the money turns into positive traffic on their sites. If they had no inflow of users, there would be no need for advertising on the forum.

I started doing this many years ago and at first I thought that these campaigns aren't going to last long. It's a year or 2 ahead of me and then it's over, but I was wrong.

They aren't going to request money back and even if they did you have the right to decline, since you did your job. They aren't paying you because they expect you to get bring them new people, or profit. They are asking you to wear a signature and post on the forum and that's what you do. The task is performed and the money is paid.

Like others have said, wearing signature is a means of advertising for the company and you get paid for promoting the service. Read this thread;  How does signature Campaign Sponsors make their money (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5476214.msg63253088#msg63253088)

It’s important that you research the service you wish to promote so you don’t end up advertising a scam project. I remember some accounts were tagged because they joined a certain scam casino campaign.

For my own little understanding about the Bitcointalk signature campaign is a contact given to the a person which they do call them campaign manager that the second in command of the campaign, so this is how it works you are been pay for your corporate when posting that’s advertising there product like betting websites so mean you write to earn your pay…..

Very important to be well grounded with relevant information about the company you are promoting and what their standings are here in the forum, many times, some signature campaign members have run into one case or the other because of the company they accept to promote and what becomes the resultant effects of their clients, this is most likely the reason why those accounts that you mentioned got tagged in the first place.

Since members of the forum are not the direct owners of those companies being advertised in the profile, that separate him from every form liabilities that the company may incur, so if anything goes wrong with the company, the forum member is expected to disassociate himself from that company by dropping their signature, but if he continues to wear that signature despite being warned, it means that red tag to serve as warning to other is most appropriate at that point.

Why are you so mad at the question? It’s not a stupid question. I think OP just wants to know all the facts before joining signature campaigns. A full member is just a rank shy away from a newbie, he’s still learning how the forum works. Remember when there some companies that were advertising here shut down last year. Some members were concerned if they were going to be asked to refund moneys they were paid for promoting the said service.

This forum is the home base for Bitcoin and everything related to it. Everything else you see, such as signatures, prize contests, and various promotional campaigns, are just additional features that this forum offers. So don't look at Bitcointalk through signature campaigns, they are only a small part of the ecosystem here.

The system of paid signature campaigns itself, at most, made Bitcoin possible as a simple and anonymous means of payment. This is perhaps the most important difference compared to some other popular but non-crypto forums.

I am having a hard time understanding you because of your bad English, no offense intended.

It is worth mentioning that i don't think a member is under 'contract' when they are hired by a campaign manager into a campaign, this is because the campaign managers always reserve the right to deny you payment or stop the campaign at anytime, they could also remove you from the campaign, even without notice, so in my honest opinion, i would not call it a contract. Signature campaigns is just advertisement, you promote a project through your posts and they pay you for it.

Forget about how much time you have spent on the forum. You have asked some questions which your common sense could answer. A question like how the campaign managers get the funds that they pay to the participants and questions like where the funds coming from is ridiculous. Your other question is what the source of the signature campaign funds is ridiculous too. Would you ask the same question to a company like Samsung? What is their income source?

Now, If I answer your question: The campaign managers get the funds from the companies they work for. The fund is coming from the company itself. The company's income source is its own business. I guess all those answers are just common enough that everyone should know and they don't have to create threads to ask these questions.

Can you in tabular form analyze who do campaign regenerate funds for payment of their participants, it may obvious that you don't how campaigns get their funds to pay you, someone asked a meaningful question instead of you to give a hint of how people working in signatures get paid so that op will understand but you are busy castigated op, its improper what you don't know the solution you have to keep quite let people that knows it give a positive answer and you learn from there.

If a business is profitable then spending a few thousand dollars a week to advertise is a worthwhile expenditure. Some of the casinos which run campaigns on Bitcointalk already have sponsorship deals with A-list celebrities and influencers. What they spend on this forum is just a drop in the bucket by comparison.

Previously there was mixers advertising here who infamously had North Korea's Lazarus Group amongst their customers. Successful businesses have good reason to advertise on Bitcointalk. They are getting direct exposure to their target demographics as well as backlinks and organic content which is beneficial for search engine optimization.

Why don't you answer instead of me? What I have posted is my personal opinion and I believe it's too common and obvious thing where the funds come from. Do you think these companies regenerate too much money from the Bitcoin advertisement? I don't think so. Not every company is here to get traffic from this forum but some others are here to announce their presence and build a reputation by spending money so that users can trust their service. The companies have their strategy which we won't understand. I have answered all his three questions and criticized him as well. If you believe I am castigating OP, then it is.

Just like a normal company, they've got managers assigned to the job to check everything running smoothly and what the company needs as for the marketing. And with that, the company is the one that funds the campaign and the manager budgets it. For each campaign managers, they're not the same and they've got their own standards on who's the one they feel and think they need based on the campaign and company's need to advertise them.

Campaign managers doesn't own the campaign, they are only managing it for the organization that employed them to do so, the organization is fully responsible in making funds available to the campaign manager to be able to disburse to other participants of their campaign, just imagine if you are interested in making an advertisement for your service, you will have at hand the money you have budgeted for that purpose, that is exactly how it applies here also.


The forum isn't the one paying you, the campaigning organization are the ones responsible for paying, all you do is to wear their signature and avatar to get paid by then after they might have selected you for participation.

In the past, obtaining 1 Bitcoin required less than an hour of mining, which is an amount that is now sufficient for advertisements for about a year.  some of these projects are for people who obtained Bitcoin early, and advertising in the forum is the best way to promote their services, especially gambling services. number of visits and views on the forum is very large.
My signature campaign gets a portion of the income from the referral links they provide within the service, so they get the money and give us a portion of it.Mixer campaigns were charging a (2-5)% fee on each transaction.

Keep on participating in the forum and try be helpful to members whenever you can. Eventually you'll earn the merit and have the activity you need to reach Legendary. At that point it's possible to earn 3x what you can earn with your current rank. Make sure you aren't posting jibberish and try to be active on multiple boards.

I wonder why you joined a signature campaign without understanding how a signature campaign works, where campaign manager get their payment and what's the
purpose of the signature campaign, everything is written on all the signature campaigns you're joining the rules, the minimum number of posts, the platform you are promoting, and how and when you will get paid, the manager will take you off the list of participants if you do not know what and how you're going to promote the project that's paying you to promote in your signature profile.
Unusual for a full member to ask this kind of question, but the answers coming from the community will enlighten us all.