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It's really wrong to save vital information on your phone such as;
 * Login password on your browser or on your mobile apps: have you ever imagined if your phone got stolen or lost and it fell into the wrong hands, and how disastrous it might be to you? It's a very wrong move which should be avoided by all cost

* saving your Secret phase on your phone: if you are ever concerned about your on security, then this one should be avoided by all means, because it's just like when you save you login banking details on your phone, in such senario, if your phone is being compromised and it fell into the wrong hand, then you will surely pay dearly for your actions.

I would suggest that we save all our important information in writing in our jotter or dairy, because a written than words is always longer than the memory.

Well, this is more like the commonest knowledge everyone that is in this forum must have acquired as long as they are active. if you have took you time to read the newbies read before posting thread or any of those pinned threads there is always a link to where you will read the basics of crypto space security wise advises and those two you mentioned about a the very commonest of them all.

Everyone that has a device is always protective of there devices even the commonest password of your phones are very secretive so that knowledge must be applied to your crypto assets. Be security wise all the time that's all I can say to anyone. there is a popular security phrase that says "Not your keys, Not your coin" so security consciousness is paramount.

Even if you write you password in a book its still not safe, no where is really safe but try as much as possible to protect your self.

There is an application on GooglePlay that allows you to track your phone's whereabouts in case it was stolen or lost and you have the option to destroy all the data in that phone so the holder will not use all the information of your stolen phone, this is just in case you put some of the valuable information like your private keys, the phone is never a good place to store your password private keys or whatever, unless your phone is in your vault and you only use to retrieve important information.

Apart from these y do you think your sim requires KYC verification ??? Obviously  it's  to dive into our private affairs (especially internert and phone related)whenever the need arise and this could be abuse by any expert in the system , that's y we should always take perfect care of our secrets and sensitive  informations.

Thus, We should completely avoid saving datas on Gmail it's  very easy to attack as we subscribe to thousands of  News letters  over the years, making us more vulnerable  to attacks mostly phishing

I remember someone who saved their seed phrase into the Evernote app after a few years of holding Bitcoins it suddenly transferred to an unknown address.
He didn't know what exactly happened he tried to blame the wallet developers and accuse them that these developers are thieves but after giving us much more information about where he saved all seed backups he said he pasted all backups in the Evernote app on his Android phone that he didn't know this app keeps syncing to the Evernote server which is not safe and I heard that this app is compromised.

So any device that is connected to the internet even if it is encrypted or saved to an encrypted app there is still a possibility it will be compromised.
That is why offline is the best option it could be to write them onto a piece of paper or old devices with no internet connection.

however, even if you write it on a piece of paper it can be still damaged over time in the long run and it's not water resistant.
Maybe having a metal plate and saving your seed phrase there is the best option in the long term.


I think you talking about "find my phone app" It has a feature to wipe all data on the phone remotely if you have a PC and have access to email you can able to do that but it only works if the device is online.

It is safe to write your seed phrase on a piece of paper, as long as you keep that piece of paper safely and only you have access to it. You could say there is no method that is 100% safe and that is true, but there are definitely methods that are highly secure and much safer than others. For example, saving your wallet seed phrase on your mobile device is very unsafe, your seed phrase should not be stored anywhere online, but offline and backed up safely on a piece of paper.

It's only reasonable to store passwords on your phone if it's on a good and reputable password manager. As for browser password storage, I'd only do it for useless online accounts like porn sites(not me, my friend told me).

As for wallet backups, definitely not unless it's a hot wallet with only very little funds.

Even hot wallets with very little amounts should be secured adequately. Your address is a digital footprint and you should be careful with how you protect that and prevent it from falling into the wrong hands.

As a second point, storing your backup phrase like that sometimes can make one complacent and use that same method at other times.

Yes, I did that a long time ago, I printed everything that I thought was important, such as passwords, passwords and so on, then stored it in an archive that even my family couldn't reach. but what is more important is to upgrade our knowledge about protecting personal data, hackers will not enter our place if we don't have a loophole, it is always our fault that allows the data to be accessed. So that this doesn't happen, we can use layered security, for example, if your cellphone is stolen, before it is stolen, use pattern, fingerprint or other security, at least this can minimize criminals accessing our data, or so that your cellphone doesn't get hacked, don't just click on any link or fill out a form from the source. which is not trustworthy. So in the end, it's not a problem to store information on your cellphone if you know the rules for securing it.

This is excellent guidance. Nearly everyone here will benefit from your advise. We must take this into consideration. It is really not a good idea to store important documents on our phones because we never know who may find our phones, especially if we store important documents on the mail or store screenshots in the gallery. That's where all of our info is readily accessible to them. Some people are exceptionally intelligent, so before we even consider exchanging passwords, they've already accomplished everything they want. that case it's good to know where to save our information.

Saving the bank's information on the phone poses a significant risk. I even wonder why some people will store their ATM cards in the back of their phones, which is really dangerous. We've learnt how to protect our privacy in order to prevent falling victim to that element.

That's nothing wrong with doing that, but it depends on the kind of person we are and how loose and reserve we appear being, some don't mind having other people have access to using their phone or other devices they use in having their private informations on it, we should also ensure that we make a good backup for every vital informations we are having and using phones shouldn't be our priority, but if we choose that, we should have a back up somewhere else and avoid third part using our device.

Yes. Mobile apps for tracking or remote wiping sound helpful if your phone gets nabbed, but I don't think they're enough to shield sensitive stuff like private keys from prying eyes.  Hackers have all kinds of tricks to scan a phone's memory without even connecting to the internet. I think the best way to protect your private data on your phone is to use a strong password and encrypt everything.

we've gotten to a point that everyone's supposed to have them basics like this already... Mobile phones and tabs are all trackable gadgets - alot of people that still don't wanna improvise have likely not fallen a victim yet, but that doesn't mean it ain't happening... All the terrible news and every-day happenings should atleast scare you into protecting your wallets with all cost.

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haven't they all learnt that their gadgets could download and install a malware/ virus, programed to convey needed informations about Thier locals banks?? Talkmore of crypto wallets?

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You are right but God forbid, what happens if their is a fire outbreak where this jotter or dairy is been kept. I think keeping it in a personal mail is more secured and safer.

I think this should be the best in my opinion:

👉👉Creat a personal mail.
👉👉Save any documents you want.
👉👉Memorize the mail and it's password
👉👉Log out the mail from phone
👉👉You can as write the email and it's password in a personal jotter or dairy(optional, just as a plan B for people that forget things easily)

This is what I do for years and it's has been very helpful. With this my personal information can never be trace with my phone.

I lost my smartphone a few years ago, but at that time I didn't have important data like seed phrases and other things related to personal assets. Using the smartphone tracking feature is very useful, we can track the last location of our smartphone. We can decide to reset via factory reset email and everything on the smartphone starting from PDF files, gallery, data etc. can be deleted remotely. For me, this feature is actually very helpful in protecting our important data so that it cannot be accessed by the inventor of our smartphone.

However, it would be better, before saving important data such as seed phrases on a cellphone, we need to write it down on paper and save it somewhere else, so that we have alternative storage besides a smartphone. Smartphones are now very sophisticated, as long as we are smart about looking after them and creating strong and difficult passwords.

Store your sensitive information offline is best.

Store your sensitive information on phones, laptops, desktop computers are risky because they are used as online devices. With mobile devices like phones, laptops, you have more risk, losing it when you are hanging around.

You can use phones, laptops, desktop computers to store your sensitive information like private keys, wallet seed if you use those devices as off-line air-gap devices.

Security and Privacy Encyclopedia (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5239098.0).

It's not safe, but people do it probably for reasons of ease of access. Security wise it's not good, especially on a smartphone that you also use for social activities. that's because on social media many people share unclear links. Whether you intentionally or accidentally click on a link, it can have bad consequences.

If you want to store it on a smartphone, I suggest it is not the same device you use for your activities every day. So make your device special for storing anything related to stock exchanges or other personal information. and also don't download too many applications from unknown sources.

Being aware on the place where you at. That will help you. If you're in a city, and you're in a public place, chances of you getting robbed is pretty much higher compare to when you're in a province, and the amount of people are low. TBH, I saved some of my passwords in my phone because it's very tedious to always put the password every time I log in on whatever account I want to log in. I can't imagine my phone being stolen because I will never let it happen. :P

One of the worst things an investor can do. Saving their seed phrase or private keys in their phone, or even in their computer.
Why save those types of information on your phone when you can just write it, and store it.

You have spoken well fellow. We really need to be careful the way we keep our password/pass phrase to avoid being hacked by scammers. Most of the cases of stolen coin in different wallet is as a result of misplacement of pass phrase. And we are told that not your key not your coin and that is absolutely true because if they should get down to your account do to your insecurity you will know the implications of no being security conscious.

Another thing also is that we need to have different wallets for safety porpos. Because of al your coin is kept in one wallet and paraventure something happen to it expecially when you have a huge amount of money in it, you will definitely have yourself to be blamed.

Not only that, but keeping it unencrypted adds additional risks. If anyone is able to access your computer, whether a friend or a hacker, he or she will be able to access your data.

Keep all your passwords encrypted and add a second layer of protection with an airgapped phone specially designed to protect your important data.
Keep several encrypted copies on a USB in a safe place.
Do not download random applications or connect to unknown WiFi APs.

Criminals use all kinds of clever tricks to get people to give up their passcode and then wait for the right moment to steal their phone. Once they have gotten access they can go into all your apps and wallets to steal your money. They can also change your passwords and facial recognition so that you will be locked out of your iCloud and Google accounts, which will make it very difficult to remotely disable your phone.

Not only can you suffer significant financial damage but with your personal identifying information they can steal your identity and that will impact your life for many years in the future. If you are using your phone for trading or keeping large amounts of crypto then it is necessary to have a strong passcode and don't trust strangers who randomly ask you to do something which requires unlocking your phone.

Prevention we know is by all means better than cure as some cure to certain circumstances my be too late before we know it. Thieves are known for their smartness and fast conduction of their operations before any help could arrive and if a thief that stole your phone is one that is crypto tech savvy I assure you that before you make use of that application on Googelplay store to track and destroy any vital information in the phone the thief must have extracted those information before you.

As a crypto savvy person the first informations he will be searching for is if there is crypto related applications and data's in the phone except he is just some novice then you are safe, but to be on the safer side absolutely is to never save your vital informations that are lead access to your assets in your phone. If you must have them saved in a phone it should be a phone you don't go out with or like you said you keep safe in a vault.

 In all, having informations like seeds phrase, passwords and the likes saved in a gadget that is connected online is never a best option as they can get corrupted by bugs leading to hack vulnerability, therefore going for offline means of saving such informations is the best of them all.

You  make some valid points, it definitely a risky saving vital information on your phone, such as login password or secret phrases. The reason people often save their vital details on their phones, it's because it's easier to access from any point and moments that's is it  major advantage but it's disadvantage if your phone get stolen or lost and ends up in the wrong hands it could have disastrous consequences.

To prioritise your security it best to avoid saving sensitive information on your phone. Instead consider writing down important details in a physical or diary. Written record is more reliable and secure if they kept safely because it also has its disadvantages. By taking this precautionary step you can better protect your personal information and reduce the risk of unauthorized access.

Losing your smartphone whether its iPhone or Android we have ways to lock and delete the contents stored in it remotely so it is the least of the concerns but the primary is security of the data is highly at risk when the device it connected to the internet and the smartphone is connected to internet 24/7 which means the attacker can target the smartphones more often that the desktop.

So you are suggesting saving documents like passwords, private keys, etc online? This is not a good idea to save any private key online. It does not matter if it's your personal mail or your personal Google Docs or your personal chat. It can be hacked anytime since it's still saved in the online database. Maybe you have not faced any issues yet but it does not mean it can not be compromised somehow.

In addition, do not forget about such phone functions as T9. If you save or print your seed phrase, T9 will remember this, and if one day your phone is hacked, then T9 will be a good helper for scammers. Also, do not forget that many applications have functions to track all your activities, even when we do not know and think that the applications are harmless. In a word, storing personal and confidential information on your phone can be compared to a regular mailbox, which anyone can open and view.

Well nothing safes now. If you can manage to save all information such as seed phrase offline is the best thing to do. Yes its quite a work since youll need to manually kwrite it or yet print it and keep it on a very secure place but do that only if you wanted to secure your assets. Anything could happened in an instant and you dont know some might try to steal your phone from you and once that happened it will be the end for you if also he knew that you are doing crypto.

A hacker does not necessarily need to physically steal your phone in other to get your sensitive information. It can be done remotely with the help of a malware. Also, password, pattern, fingerprint, facial lock are good as the help to prevent unauthorized access to your phone, but please note that when your phone is stolen, a hacker can still bypass them and steal your information. The ideal practice is to keep your sensitive information such as seed phrase and credit card details completely offline.

Neither way, there’s no 100% safe method. All are at risk from being stolen or might be disclose to someone else if you are not 100% responsible of your own account. But I believe storing your seed phrase offline without disclosing it to anyone is probably the best option. As long as you don’t forget your seed phrase or misplaced where you write your password, that will always be safe. Saving vital information online will always add more risk of losing it so make sure to avoid that saving option.

I think it's depend on how you keep your phone save. In my case, my bank account has app that I use frequently on my phone, to make payment and transfer money, my option is these app which I can use rom my home, or going to the ATM. I always keep my phone safe, never join any public wifi and never open any suspicious link. As long as we can keep our phone safe saving vital information is ok.

Frankly, we aren't safe anymore. We invented stuff that are beginning to scare us now. All these appliances and gadgets are something else. The little we think we've done on the internet is even the much we've got ourselves exposed. That's why I smile whenever I come across didactic posts on data privacy and how not to use one's data online. Those who say that are quick to forget that they've some of those data of theirs with their banks, licensing offices, work places, just name them. If we've exposed our data in such places, what makes us think they can't be compromised or sold to the dark web? This is really scary.

There is lot of information that a thief can have access to if they get a hold of your phone. There are a lot of useful information that we save on our phones in a hurry, in our notes, drafts, gallery, email and even in our contacts etc. Criminals are aware of this, and so know exactly where to check whenever they are able to get your phone. There needs to be an awareness that should be developed to always be conscious of the information we keep in our phones, because even if your phone does not get stolen, it can also get lost or even damaged beyond repair, and you loose any vital information or details that you have saved on your phone.

Stealing has reduced everywhere since the IME tracking system made it easy to identify stolen mobiles. This effect was particularly pronounced in underdeveloped and developing countries, which have been brought under control by technology. However, due to carelessness, phone may also be lost, in that case, if the phone is in someone else's hands, if he somehow goes to Google Browser and gets those passwords, then of course he may lose all his personal assets. So being cautious is the smartest thing to do. Those who are alert can avoid such situations.

Any seed phrases or pin numbers related to money should never be saved to Google. In this case it is imperative to store this information in a safe place. Many are callous in maintaining those things which later leads to major disasters.

Yes, I think we can all agree that this feature is quite useful in cases where your smartphone is lost or stolen.  However, I'm not sure what it has to do with the inventor of our smartphone - or the manufacturer, I'm assuming you mean.

That's right, storing sensitive information like passwords and passphrases on your phone can pose a serious security risk. This is especially true if the device is lost or stolen. Not to mention the malicious programs that are downloaded from the Internet every day.

You are absolutely right. But if they tell me some people still save personal information on their phones, then I'll be surprised. There is the internet and other platforms like Google Drive, Gmail, and other services. That helps people save solid information on their phone.

My email backs up with google authenticator and an active cell phone number, because as long as the cell phone number is in your hand, you can fix security at any time. always check the activity log because email is like a window to your house, of course if you are used to it, it will be easy to identify even a grain of dust. Just like the email you use, when someone misuses it you can find out the digital records in the email if there is odd activity. so far my email is safe and has lasted about 10 years.
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Phrase is a unique key that is very sensitive, that since someone creates and imports it into the wallet there must be guidelines for handwriting because no matter how bad your device is the most difficult thing is to identify the copy and paste virus. and the right step is to keep writing directly. Indeed, the device is an easy and simple storage of all kinds of activities on the internet but it is better to be careful especially when it comes to storing crypto assets and other finances. There is no legal umbrella when losing assets in a personal wallet because all forms of loss are the responsibility of each person.

Which is basically your advice, you yourself have to do it and apply it well, we know that there are many things that can have fatal consequences for negative actions, if you store something valuable on Android, what else has to do with crypto assets, as well as notes other valuable.

I once saw one of my friends playing crypto, he had 2 Bitcoins at that time, before he died, he wrote down all the records of crypto assets, including valuable records related to crypto, his wife was shocked when she saw her husband's writing that the assets he owned, broke uphope comes true.

Here we can draw a conclusion, the importance of real records, especially about the crypto assets that we own, because we never know what will happen in the future, by considering some records, it can save your family from poverty.

This is also an important point that we need to know, there is no doubt that today's cellphones are very sophisticated, even if our cellphone is lost we can reset it using the Find My Device feature so that people who find our cellphone cannot access our important data on the cellphone. But sometimes many of us forget, apart from the dangers of storing important data on our cellphones, apart from losing our cellphones, it turns out it is even more dangerous if our cellphones are hacked, as you said, through suspicious networks or websites that make our data easily stolen by other people. .

It's all up to us to use our cell phones carefully and stay alert, but it's even wiser if we save important data in notes, at least don't keep it in just one place, but have two places as alternative storage if something happens, we still have one more spare.

You always need to be prepared that your phone will be lost, stolen, broken beyond repair, etc. Therefore, nothing critical should be stored on the phone.

I couldn't think of anything more stupid. Who in their right mind would do such a thing? There is no need to have seed phrases with you every day and every hour. The less often you contact  with your seed phrase, the better for the safety and security of this.

Well, what would we do without your advice? :) Sorry for the sarcasm - I couldn't resist.

Paper storage media are not the best solution for storing important information because they are easily destroyed. And also, writing in a notebook or diary creates another threat to the safety of confidential information - this is a banal theft. Therefore, it should be hidden in such a way that no strangers (in some cases, close people) have access.

It is important not to store any sensitive information about you or your family on your phone because of several reasons.
If somehow your phone got stolen, your entire data might be compromised and get leaked. You might be blackmailed because of the sensitive data.
Your phone can get hacked and your bank information or password gets stolen and you end up losing your money.
I believe that your family pictures should not be stored on your phone. Click pictures and shift them to your laptop or portable drive. 

That's a wrong advice. Gmail is not safe, Google has been hacked in the past. One thing about these hacks is that most of these big corporations will sweep it under the carpet, they will downplay it and not tell the public the extent of the damage. They'll only tell you what you need to hear. So whatever you do, don't store your seed phrase or private keys electronically (for example gmail, cloud services, mobile or computer devices).

If you're afraid of fire outbreak, make multiple backups in different locations or engrave your seed phrase on a metallic steel plate.

This is a big mistake of us especially those who are involved in crypto currency. It is not a problem if the device we use is destroyed, but if someone else can take access to the device we use or if our device is ever stolen or lost, then a third person can easily find out our important information and passwords. If they get to know the passwords of our various accounts, there is no chance of getting those accounts back. Suppose I have an exchange account and have enough money in that account and have forgotten the password of that account and saved that time if my phone is lost and someone else wants to steal my personal information by getting that phone but can easily steal my personal information. This way he can easily transfer all the money from my exchange so we need to be very careful about this.

this is basic security 105 that I think everyone that's in the industry have known.

It's not a new thing anymore that their is nothing like privacy as long as it concerns the the information that is one your device. Even the ones you have deleted can be restored back to your device and used back later and that is one of the reasons why we should be careful on the kind of information we keep in out phone or device. and it's not just out password or seed phrase, any information that could possibly harm us or become a threat to us shouldn't be stored on our mobile device.

Some people are even too find of taken a screenshot of a valuable information because they are lazy to copying it down. The drill you should give yourself should be that it's not something you would want an outsider to get access to, do yourself the favour of no leaving it in your phone at all.

When it comes to our effective existence in this industry, our security is our number one priority and so it's very important that we keep reminding ourselves these basic security checks so our carelessness doesn't bring all our holding down for nothing.

Anything has risk wherever you store your vital information and what's important there on how you take care of your these important tools to make your accounts safe.

I know saving it on your phone is risky but still it depends on how you handle your gadgets since if you are aware with any risk involve for sure you can still be safe even if you always decide to hide your important details on that gadgets.

But for more secure place much really better if we save it offline and hide it on locked spaced where we think safe for us to store in our house since for sure no one can actually get our hidden details especially if we don't let anyone came in on our room or we assure that we can safekeep those details away from people who usually came to our place.

Well, irrespective that the phone belongs to you saving password on the phone is not the best place because anything can happen  that someone else can have access to your phone and if the person gets to see your password that means it can he use to login to get valuable things . I have seen people who save their password on browser and how their account was hacked because their password was saved on a browser.  The Internet is not safe for the storage of password .

Everyone have their own reasons of saving some of information to their phone, to save information like credentials for phone is not bad, especially in your email,  you might need an urgent call and you can print out the credentials they needed in your phone as saved..the only thing I will rise against for we to save it in our phone is anything that relates with money especially passwords and other things that result of monetary password....saving a seed phrase in your phone is wrong from my perspective, because someone might picked your phone and it happens that all your password of cryptocurrency wallet are all there, they will not hesitate to import the wallet and penetrate to your coins

It's ok to save extra copy of our password and seedphrases. I personally have some usb sticks that I use to store my seedphrase and password, which is stored safely on places that I will not forget. I don't use pen and paper on backing up important information like seedphrase except for those hard wallets that I have. I never store any seedphrase on my phone, there's so much risks into it that I can't commit. It's just better to do good old ways of storing such important datas. I've been doing it for years and I still find it effective as I feel safe doing it.

Another thing, don't put any of your seedphrase online even if it's a password manager or some sort.

In a case where your phone is stolen or compromised you would be at a major risk, cause all your valuable credentials would be assible to anyone who has your phone and you would be at a major risk, even saving passwords on your phone is also quite risky cause if someone has access to your phone, your in a big mess

This is why everyone should not just stop at putting a password on their phones but also on the SIM cards. That's how I keep mine. So, it's double work for anyone who steals my phone. If the thief is able to assess my phone without flashing it, they won't be able to assess data saved on my SIM as text messages or drafts. The worse that can happen is that my SIM gets destroyed on the ninth wrong try to break my SIM code. It's a win for me.

But of course, having one's data in one's email isn't saving it on one's phone. It's on the internet. One can assess it through any other means that's not even phone. The PC and desktop computers are their, besides phones, to harvest such from.

You can do engraving if you only have one wallet. But as practice shows, each user has several dozen different wallets. In this case, to perform an engraving for each wallet is a difficult task. Still, I prefer saving information on two flash drives, one of which performs the function of a backup.

There is a big no for storing you seed digitally, always write it down on paper and store it in your wardrobe or any other safe place. Any thing that has digital existence can be stolen no matter how much security is in place.
What you saying is quite right, your data is never privately held by tech companies. You search for wrist watches on google and you will start seeing ads related to wrist watches on facebook or receiving marketing emails of wrist watches.
Always take backup of your mobile phone and avoid saving sensitive data in your mobile phone. It can be hacked, physically stolen or go out of order at any time.

Many of the password managers through browsers can be compromised. If there's something wrong that has happened, they're going to notify you while the notification is a good sign that they've got a good way in notifying their users.

But this also means that passwords through them are not safe so if you are the type of guy that keeps your passwords there. Make sure that they're just like fine and you've got not loss upon them being compromised.

I know that many are lazy to type things upon logging in so they want to use the remember the password feature from these browsers but I won't do this especially with financial and crypto websites.

If it's 2FA, I think it will be saved in the email that you actively use for Google Authenticator (GA), for example. So in the email we also have to secure it by providing a cellphone number and activating 2FA too. I think this is a complex problem so we have to create security at the same time, not just on mobile phone or apps, so we also need to create security for email too.
For example, if you lose your mobile phone, logging into exchange requires email for 2fa and needs GA, so I usually only put GA on my phone, the rest on my laptop. Because if we lose it, other people automatically won't be able to open it either. And for secret phase, I never save it on my phone, for me it's too risky. So I save everything on my laptop for the secret phase.

Google's password manager on Chrome actually warns you if any of your passwords have been compromised. It's a decent feature, and I've got to admit that I'm guilty of saving the majority of my passwords on Chrome through my Google account. Everything is pretty much synced to your new devices, if you wish to. It's certainly not the safest way to store your passwords, but it's definitely the most convenient one. As long as you don't keep your online cryptocurrency wallet or exchange, banking, or social media passwords saved there, or if you do, have 2FA enabled, then you're relatively safe, until things go south at least.

Mind you that whether you save your seed phrase in a mobile device or in a laptop, they are both risky because it is connected to the internet, from your post i quoted above, you seem to have the misconception that it is fine to save your seed phrase in your laptop, but it is not safe to do so on your mobile phone. Well, they are both risky and you should not keep your seed phrase anywhere online, the risk lies in the fact that the device that hodls your seed phrase is online and can be hacked, thus keep it in an offline machine and ensure your backups are also done offline.

I think we have to be very careful how we save vital details on our phones because of the phone got lost, we might not have access to it against and the next holders could scan the phone and use the vital records against us. It is never advisable for us to backup our private keys or seed phrase on phone. The phone could get hacked and we might not have access to the phone again. Once we understand the level of security we need to take to ensure that we don't fall victim, we can always get fortunate and not have the problem of lost seed phrase in our life time.

If your password is stored on your mobile device, then it’s no longer secret because you already exposed it to people indirectly. Even if your phone is not stolen or hacked, someone might just ask for it, and when given to them, they will see everything you are hiding, so it’s no longer secret if your password is on your phone. When storing your password, we should make sure it’s stored completely offline. Were there is no internet connection, you can just write it on paper or carve it on iron steel, but writing it on paper is not really secure because your paper can be easily damaged and you will lose access to it. But when it’s stored on iron steel, it's more secure.

There's no difference between storing your seed phrase on a mobile phone or a laptop. Both methods are electronic means of storage and it's not safe. If your laptop is comprised by a malware, you could lose your funds. The best method is to store your seed phrase offline. So It's not too late to do the right thing, and don't use the old seed phrase. Create a new wallet, backup the seed phrase manually and send your funds to the newly created wallet.

newbies find it very difficult to understand that storing seed phrase of crypto wallet in a phone or a laptop is not encouraging because it is an easy access for someone to penetrate to the wallet and also import the wallet with another system through the seed phrase, as you mentioned above that the best method of securing your seed phrase is through offline documentation why online documentation or online storage of seed phrase can make you to lose whatever thing you have especially when you misplace your phone or your laptop whoever that I have access to this two things I mentioned to your wallet and import it to another system, and it is obvious that when your wallet is being import to another system that is every tendency that you might lose whatever thing that is in that wallet forever that is why privacy is very important in cryptocurrency investment.

I think to educate people on topics like this you will need to provide more detailed information in order to convince them why saving viral information on their phone is wrong. Your points are not bad but more light need to be shed on them. Phones can be compromised and not difficult to hack as we have seen several instances of phone hacks so saving anything on it is not 100% safe.

Phone hacks are very common this days and it is not necessarily when phones get stolen or lost that passwords can be compromised or accessed by another person, any device that is being connected to the internet is prone to being hacked that’s why it is not safe to save passwords on your phone. We should be very careful with the links we access on our phones as some links can be used to gain access to the data on our devices.

Seed phrases are not meant to be kept on our devices that's why screenshots are not allowed to be taken and it is advised to write it down somewhere else and stored safely. Any device that is connected to the internet is liable to be hacked or compromised so any data stored on them will be compromised as well, seed phrases should be written, duplicated and store in different locations and not stored on mobile phones or anywhere near an internet connection.

You should take a backup copy of your important information on more than one jotter or write it on one on hard or rust-resistant metal objects and keep it in a safe place. Before storing them, you should also re-verify the accuracy of the information again.

One of the things that beginners ignore most is protection. This field requires maximum security to ensure everyone's assets remain safe over time. Phones can be easily hacked through malicious files, apps, or links, and beginners often make the mistake of storing their important information in files or messages saved on communication apps on phones connected to the internet, posing a threat to their holdings. The solution is to use an alternative phone away from the primary phone that contains the wallets and important information, Or to purchase and use a hardware wallet, or, as you mentioned, to write down seed phrases, private keys, passwords, etc., away and not on the phone itself.

Storing data on your phone is a quick way to access it when needed in any circumstances - but it's not good security advice when it comes to your wallet details. I have some important notes on my phone so far ^{[expense notes & debt notes]} and this makes it easy for me to edit them whenever I want. About wallets and other important data - of course it is not recommended to store them on your phone. Even if your phone doesn't have access to the internet - there is a possibility that your data will be lost due to various reasons including device damage and so on.


There's no way you can remember 12 different words over the years without having a backup in handwritten form or something. Of course you can write it down or engrave it somewhere - then you need to make a backup and store it separately.

Saving logins details and secret phrase in phone is not actually bad but it depends on where and how you saved it, that is to say that you can save your logins and secret Phrase in your mail or those applications that hide documents, photos etc I think they can be safe there. Someone who is inclined in all these online stuff can't foolishly save his or her details anyhow in the phone.
However, writing it in a diary or joter is not even the best because your joter or diary can still  be misplaced one day. So none of them is more preferable all have advantage and disadvantage but I prefer saving in mail because even if something happens to your phone you can still get it back.

Honestly OP, you will never realize that was wrong until when you have been hacked and the main cause is the keys that are stored in your phone.
If you care about it, I don't recommend saving your important details on your phone but keep it separately. We may say we are prone to hacking but at least we make these hackers suffer difficulties before they discover our keys. As they are smart, we should also be smart in keeping and securing our funds so that they realize that people are also learning.

We must consider those people who have experienced hacking as a lesson to learn rather than wait for it to happen to us. It makes no sense as it was given already and yet, we don't do something to avoid it.

I don't think it is safe to store important things in the phone because if the phone is lost or stolen or damaged at any time then it will not be possible to recover those things easily. Especially if I save the Bitcoin wallet security system or private key or seed phase in the phone, then if the mobile phone is damaged or stolen, then I will never be able to recover the security system of my wallet, so hackers or thieves can easily access my wallet. Can withdraw bitcoins from mobile phones.

Not that it's actually wrong to save your vital information on your gadget but where it will be wrong is when one discloses his personal phone password to people around because you think you trust them so much.
 
But for me absolutely not, I don't save my vital information on my phone. The only information I save on my smart phone are people’s names and phone numbers, plus the occasional note to myself. When I make a note, I’m cryptic about references to things.

There are good reasons for this. One of the biggest is that a huge number of apps are designed to suck a lot of what you think is private data right out of your phone.

I know that sounds a little paranoid, but according to the PEW Research Center a remarkable amount of information is silently being extracted from our devices in addition to our locations, all without people being aware of it. So for this it's not adivcable to save your vital information on our phones.

I'm totally with you regarding potential risks because both devices are usually online devices which are exposed to internet communication and vulnerabilities and malware.

Mobile phones are riskier in my opinion because users carry them around, mostly more often than laptops, do all sorts of internet shit with it, install and use whoknowswhat apps on them. Mobile phones are also riskier to loose or be stolen.

Security issues with mobile phones sometimes start with a "smart" keyboard app already on the device or installed by the user for some additional convenience. Does the keyboard app keep all typed data strictly local? Are you 100% certain of that?

To the extend mobile phones mutated to data gathering devices for big companies (and governments?), you should not rely on or expect your data to remain any private and secure on such devices. Yes, that's probably a bit exaggerated but can you prove and be certain of the opposite? I highly doubt...

Keep mnemonic recovery words strictly offline all the time, period! I can't think of a good reason to do otherwise.

That's true, I once experience a hack on my email, and this email contained the seed phrases to most of my wallets, I just dont know how they were able to get hold of it, but my email was compromised and so was one of my wallets. I lost over $500 that day. I was luck to have noticed and intercepted the hacker as quickly as I could and that was how I managed to  secure the remaining funds left in the other wallets, else I would've been completely sucked dry.
That thought me a great lesson and I restrained from keeping vital informations on my phone or online.

Phones are not a safe place to store all important information, there are many reasons that can harm someone who stores important information on them. A cellphone does not guarantee 100% that all your secrets will be safe, you never know the evil intentions of a friend for borrowing a cellphone for certain things, he can easily steal all your personal information including the Seed Phrase stored in it.
Being trapped in a Phishing link also threatens the safety of your assets, now many scammers are trying to spread Phishing links to find their victims. You never know when that will happen, so you need to anticipate it as a form of prevention by choosing a safe place to store all personal secrets related to your login password or Seed Phrase.

What information can I stored on my phone that nobody must not see? None...

If my phone get lost right now, they need to unlock with finger print, if they can't then they have to use other technical means to unlock the phone, like erasing and formatting the whole thing, which means there will be loss of data information.

Let's say miraculously they unlock the phone, I don't store any crypto on my phone, I have them stored in a hardware wallet, they can have access to my crypto exchange accounts since browsers are saving passwords and others but the accounts are always empty, I don't keep money on any account using my phone.

Bank account? They will have to deal with three questions before they get access, and to move funds out they will have to deal with transaction key too, it's going to be extremely hard, though I don't keep money in the bank but they aren't getting nothing, I will just have to open new account for crypto exchanges and block the bank account on my phone, even three trails with questions been asked will automatically block the account.

People are lazy they don't have enough time and capacity to memorize all of the usernames, and passwords they use in a specific platform so they keep using the feature of saving into their device, If you will do this and you lose your device make sure you still have access to lock the device or the account itself so you can prevent that information getting compromised.


People are now confident with their devices because its convenient for to them have this a click away, you can prevent this at the first place if you are aware of possible attacks like phishing emails and spam SMS. Being knowledgeable will help you to make sure your information is safe but still you are vulnerable because you are using the internet.

The first thing to do when saving passwords is to avoid saving them on your phone, You can easily get hacked, and I have seen cases where even phone repairers will hack people after repairs, so if you are someone who is used to auto-saving passwords, then your privacy will at the end of the day get breached, and cases like this would have cost some people there assets. I know that whether hardware or hard copy, we always see them as stress, and that is the best way to keep your data safe. Even people who are safe in there emails are also not safe, and another thing is that if you lose that phone, there is a possibility you will get everything back.

If your cell phone goes missing, how do you even get your wall to see a phrase or other data? I still prefer storing things the old way. Anything digital now can easily be compromised, and that is why people always complain of being hacked. and imagine I have bitcoin. If this happens to me, I don't think I will be able to survive anything that should happen to my bitcoin, it won't be a good experience at all.

as you said, if we have anticipated the worst possibility that could happen to our device, then there will be no problems. but the problem is when someone saves the recovery seed or key from their wallet online such as in a Google spreadsheet or something else on a lost device. it could be bad for the device owner.
However, we still use smartphone devices every day. everything is connected there to make all the transactions we do every day easier. whether it's banking or social media. we must be wiser in using devices. Even if the device is lost, we can recover data on another device. but as much as possible we still don't want to experience that.

I once had this friend that at some point made a statement that I didn’t fully understand then until later. He said;

Your phone might be just yours but, the content of your phone isn’t just yours! He said this in respect to music though but I feel it this applies to every aspect of what is on your phone or device.

A phone is something we carry about just anywhere, tend to sleep with it even and in course of our daily activity, we might meet that one friend that would like us to let him free handle our device. Some of us just will, based on the relationship we’ve got with this person and might not see reason to be any security conscious.
Eventually, this friend might stumble on what even himself or herself never had plans on and taking advantage of it eventually becomes the plan then, you’ll be sorry and wouldn’t even know where your issues is coming from.
Even in obvious hack cases.

We really need to be mindful of what we leave on our device.

I will not encourage anybody to save their information on phone or laptop because anything can happen, that will make such person to lose all his money and it will be very easy for such person that stole the phone to have access to your Bitcointalk.org account and, it can make the person to make some post that will make them to destroy your account that took you some years to grow.

 That is why is very good to write down all your personal details in case someone stole your phone or laptop, it will be easy for such person to recover his or her coins back because the most important thing you need to restore your coins back is your seeds phrase and password.