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Title: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: Getmon on February 01, 2024, 02:12:10 AM
When I saw a survey indicating that the majority of voters chose the player that only a handful of experts expect to win over the player that has proven to be more dominant, it blew my mind.

I am talking about the boxing match between former champion and big star Anthony Joshua and mma star Francis Nganou. However, I remember not long ago I refused to place a wager on Real Madrid because I desired Girona to win La Liga. In addition, wagering against the Los Angeles Lakers when matched with the best NBA teams is difficult for me.

I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: Odohu on February 01, 2024, 02:18:01 AM
When I saw a survey indicating that the majority of voters chose the player that only a handful of experts expect to win over the player that has proven to be more dominant, it blew my mind.

I am talking about the boxing match between former champion and big star Anthony Joshua and mma star Francis Nganou. However, I remember not long ago I refused to place a wager on Real Madrid because I desired Girona to win La Liga. In addition, wagering against the Los Angeles Lakers when matched with the best NBA teams is difficult for me.

I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?
There are people who always play against their favourite star or team, they use it as a form of consolation incase their favourite loses, they make money. In soccer some people even play against their country so that whatever be the outcome of the match, they will be happy. I don't know how this work for them but I'm not really pursuing that momentary happiness so I don't do that.

In gambling, I don't attach emotion, so I play the best possible option. If my favourite is to lose, I'll will go with the option that will give me the results I want and not really some form of happiness. You can say am not a loyal supporter, well that may be your opinion because I support for the fun of the game and nothing more... losing is actually part of the fun!


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: Julien_Olynpic on February 01, 2024, 02:46:58 AM
I recently watched a video by a blogger, where he explained his rules of sports betting. It’s funny that the first point in his video was this rule: “Never bet on your favorite team.” And in fact, this rule has a deep meaning. When we bet on our favorite team, we are likely to be biased. We want to believe that our favorite team will win and we can ignore any rational arguments.
      It is much more logical to bet on the opponent of your favorite team to win. In this case, as the previous user correctly noted, we will either win the bet or enjoy the game of our favorites. That is, it turns out that we will win in any case.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: komisariatku on February 01, 2024, 03:09:58 AM
I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?

I have two favorite clubs and will always bet there even if the chances of winning are small. To be honest, now I very rarely bet on football matches because I no longer watching football as before. But because I like Real Madrid and AC Milan, I sometimes bet there even though I don't know any players currently playing for those two clubs and never follow any information about them. Usually I bet on the derby or El-Classico. Whatever happens, I will always bet on Real Madrid when El Real meets Barca and I always bet on AC Milan when they meet Inter. Of course I only bet small amounts because it's just for fun

Usually my old friends contact me when there's a big match coming up, but we've lost contact since he got married so we can't have fun like we used to. I miss him very much


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: alastantiger on February 01, 2024, 03:10:52 AM
When I saw a survey indicating that the majority of voters chose the player that only a handful of experts expect to win over the player that has proven to be more dominant, it blew my mind.

I am talking about the boxing match between former champion and big star Anthony Joshua and mma star Francis Nganou. However, I remember not long ago I refused to place a wager on Real Madrid because I desired Girona to win La Liga. In addition, wagering against the Los Angeles Lakers when matched with the best NBA teams is difficult for me.

I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?
There is a term for betting against your favorite team; it is called emotional hedging. According to Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotional_hedge), when we bet against our team or a sports person we are a fan of, as in the case of the OP, if at least Francis Ngannou wins or Girona, he would win money and feel less bad about his favorite, Anthony Joshua, or his favorite club, Real Madrid, losing. On the other side, if this is optimism bias, in the case of the OP, the sports bettor would believe that no matter what, against his analysis and popular opinion, his favorite, Anthony Joshua, or his favorite club, Real Madrid, is destined to win.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: Fundamentals Of on February 01, 2024, 03:47:20 AM
Although every gambler must have his favorite team or player, I don't think it will have more weight in terms of betting. Gambling is of course trying to make money. And it is supposed to be based on objective analysis and stats rather than emotions.

But sometimes it can't be avoided that when your team or player is in a game you really want them to win and you also want to cheer for them while watching them live. Because of this, you either not bet at all especially if your team or player is a big underdog or you still bet on them but with the minimum amount only.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: Hirose UK on February 01, 2024, 03:59:13 AM
Of course there are, I also several times prefer to bet on team or star players that I like just because I want to see different results and also more feasible odds.
Of course we always have passion for star players or top teams who are really strong but often this category gives very low odds and is not possible to bet on, winning does have a very big chance of being achieved but the odds are really not worth it bet.
If you really want to bet on the favorite team which clearly has full strength then there will be decent odd if you take handicap bet but this is quite risky because draw or small win of only 1 point will make the bet fail.

In sports betting, it is actually quite easy to be able to have an odd that is worth betting on and in accordance with the risk taken, but the apparent ease can lead to mistakes if you are not really careful in choosing betting options.
This is sports betting which is full of puzzles that are difficult to solve, everything looks easy but when you do it the ease is not as you imagine.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: michellee on February 01, 2024, 04:20:00 AM
I will see the reality between the two teams. If my favourite team cannot win against the opposing team, I will choose the opposing team as a bet. But sometimes, I don't place a bet if I don't really want to bet. I'll choose number two. I can wager against my dearest star player, club and team.

It will be up to each person to place a bet. They can place their bet if they are okay with betting against their favourite team or player. Otherwise, they won't do it and just watch the game.

And there is no pressure to choose which one we prefer. That will depend on the results of the analysis we make. Before you choose your favourite team or the opposing team, you have to analyze it. That way, you will know how likely your favourite team is to win and then you can make a choice.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: boty on February 01, 2024, 05:15:21 AM
Although every gambler must have his favorite team or player, I don't think it will have more weight in terms of betting. Gambling is of course trying to make money. And it is supposed to be based on objective analysis and stats rather than emotions.

But sometimes it can't be avoided that when your team or player is in a game you really want them to win and you also want to cheer for them while watching them live. Because of this, you either not bet at all especially if your team or player is a big underdog or you still bet on them but with the minimum amount only.
Everyone who places a bet will of course look at the statistics of the matches played by the team they are going to place a bet on and the statistics of the opponents, because everyone who bets of course wants to win and if their favorite team has a bigger opponent then it is very unlikely they will place a bet on their favorite team because they will not be sure they can win the bet they will place, but if they are determined they will not miss their favorite team's match and will continue to support their favorite team.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: Gozie51 on February 01, 2024, 05:36:57 AM
Gambling is to win and make some profit from what you have wagered and it is an unreasonable gambler that will go gamble in favour of an unfavourable team even if that is his favourite club, the right thing to do is to stay away from that wager instead of the feeling of guilt to bet against your club.

With the analysis, predictions and bookies odd you should know if your favourite team is tipped to win or not and gambling follows the general feeling and no sentiment, so why bet with sentiment where you know your team is not favoured to win but some gamblers may take the risk afterall it is all gambling, a game of luck but I won't wager blindly. I better stay away from an unfavourable forecast team whether I'm a fan of the club or not.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: Apocollapse on February 01, 2024, 06:04:23 AM
This is the reason why not every gambler will make money by gambling even though they gamble on sports (which people said skill based games give you higher chances to win).

But betting on favorite team or player isn't entirely wrong if they feel fun with that, especially if you're live from that country/city and you feel there's a personal relationship with them.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: Mr. Magkaisa on February 01, 2024, 06:35:29 AM
When I saw a survey indicating that the majority of voters chose the player that only a handful of experts expect to win over the player that has proven to be more dominant, it blew my mind.

I am talking about the boxing match between former champion and big star Anthony Joshua and mma star Francis Nganou. However, I remember not long ago I refused to place a wager on Real Madrid because I desired Girona to win La Liga. In addition, wagering against the Los Angeles Lakers when matched with the best NBA teams is difficult for me.

I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?

      -   In my experience in boxing, I remembered that I bet against the opponent of our compatriot boxer because I thought that my compatriot boxer would lose. So I bet on his opponent that he will lose. Although he is my countryman, I can't wait to see him win, so I bet on his opponent that he will win.
And after that match, I won with my acquaintance because we were the only two who bet on something like that. Sometimes that's the cycle of the game, and if he's not my star player, I'll give up. Of course, that's not the case; that's why we call him a better player.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: Assface16678 on February 01, 2024, 06:37:33 AM
Well, for me in terms of gambling, no matter how much I like that team or specific player, if I see that they don't have the chance to win or if the opposing team is most likely to win, then I'm okay with betting on the opposing team of my favourite team. hy? Money, even how a fan you are in a sport, will you let yourself lose in a bet or lose money just because you are being stubborn and ignoring the fact that your favourite team will lose and will cost you money because you still bet on them? Let's be practical, or I'll be practical if it's about gambling, then I don't care who's team I choose as long as they have the chance to win and they will give money to me. I'm still a fan of my favourite team, but money is money, and I can't ignore the fact that there are stronger teams aside from them.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: ajiz138 on February 01, 2024, 08:17:27 AM
Always bet on the favorite team because it's a high percentage chance of winning, I don't care if it's the favorite team because there's an inherent relationship but when you bet on the favorite team it's obvious to be happy especially in a winning match + odds that are won again.

I always bet on the favorite team including any team when I know about the match, I don't differentiate, but I don't know if someone is doing something different maybe for a reason.

Even when there are many matches in the same week in the sense that there are many big match matches, I will do multiple because I look at the odds not the team that is not bet on.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: Asuspawer09 on February 01, 2024, 08:19:33 AM
When I saw a survey indicating that the majority of voters chose the player that only a handful of experts expect to win over the player that has proven to be more dominant, it blew my mind.

I am talking about the boxing match between former champion and big star Anthony Joshua and mma star Francis Nganou. However, I remember not long ago I refused to place a wager on Real Madrid because I desired Girona to win La Liga. In addition, wagering against the Los Angeles Lakers when matched with the best NBA teams is difficult for me.

I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?

It was still going to depend on the situation in some games, for in some NBA games like Stephen Curry there are probably a lot of people that like him as a player but if you're going to gamble and make a bet on it, I don't really think that Stephen Curry could actually win the finals right now right since there are a lot of issues on their team right now and probably consecutive lose in the previous lose could be another indication for some betters. Also, you can see how great the stats of the other team are so you can easily analyze how it might turn out in the end.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: SmartGold01 on February 01, 2024, 08:42:25 AM
I don't give priority to my favorite star or team what matter's most is which team to win the match, what you are saying is being emotionally attached when you attached emotion in terms of gambling it could cause you damage knowing that such team won't win or qualify for the League then what is the extent of chosen them in your bet to win while not, I am very mindful with my selection and again if you attached emotion it could cause you some damages whereby you would find it difficult to fight over it.
The thing is gamble and make your predictions correctly without having to attached any emotion to your favorite star or club.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: blckhawk on February 01, 2024, 08:55:42 AM
I don't give priority to my favorite star or team what matter's most is which team to win the match, what you are saying is being emotionally attached when you attached emotion in terms of gambling it could cause you damage knowing that such team won't win or qualify for the League then what is the extent of chosen them in your bet to win while not, I am very mindful with my selection and again if you attached emotion it could cause you some damages whereby you would find it difficult to fight over it.
The thing is gamble and make your predictions correctly without having to attached any emotion to your favorite star or club.
Same with me, I try to be logical and reasonable when it comes to which one I should place my bet upon which has the likely wins, the reason why a lot of fans of sports teams and FCs shouldn't bet is because their team/brand loyalty makes them blind to the possibilities that their team might lose or that they think that every other team sucks so they judge them badly but that's not all fans because there are some that really knows the game so in a way, they can still bet but still loyal to their teams because they know how the game works, I don't think that they'll ever bet against their team though, they'll gladly lose on that one but the fervor they'll get if they win is going to be off the charts.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: Natsuu on February 01, 2024, 09:31:13 AM
Just for fun yeah i can. There are times that I want to test my spirit haha If you're just exploring for fun, you might find diverse opinions and preferences among gamblers on Bitcointalk. You've got folks throwing their money in for the love of their favorite players or teams like that emotional connection. Then there are the strategists, crunching numbers and following expert advice. It's a whole blend of loyalty, gut feeling  and calculated risks that makes the betting scene a lively and unpredictable ride


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: swogerino on February 01, 2024, 09:38:40 AM
When I saw a survey indicating that the majority of voters chose the player that only a handful of experts expect to win over the player that has proven to be more dominant, it blew my mind.

I am talking about the boxing match between former champion and big star Anthony Joshua and mma star Francis Nganou. However, I remember not long ago I refused to place a wager on Real Madrid because I desired Girona to win La Liga. In addition, wagering against the Los Angeles Lakers when matched with the best NBA teams is difficult for me.

I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?

That is quite common and you should not be surprised to know that quite a lot of surprise results happen otherwise casino/sportbooks would be diminishing day by day and not growing like they are doing.I rarely bet against the favorite yet I am also greatly dissapointed when I see surprise results in tennis,NBA which happen with really low odds and also in soccer where the odds are a bit higher.This unfortunately won't change and we should not be surprised because these results will be here to stay.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: len01 on February 01, 2024, 09:39:58 AM
maybe I will focus more on football betting and occasionally I also bet on teams that are not favorites or are not my favorite team.
for me this just depends on whether we are truly a bettor or just a bettor and supporter of a team.
and if someone is a pure bettor, they usually don't care where they place their bet because they (pure gamblers) only think about how to win their bet and don't always bet on the team favored by the bookmaker.
however, if someone is a bettor and also a supporter of a team, they usually always bet on their favorite team as a way to provide support, even though the team they choose is not favored by the bookies, they will definitely look for a safe option with a big chance of winning.

but still, all of this is actually just about where we will get a profit from our bets, it doesn't matter whether it is a weak team or a strong team which can definitely only win the bet that has been placed even though he is also a supporter of a certain team.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: iv4n on February 01, 2024, 09:40:30 AM
I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?

Well, I can place a bet against my favorite team/player, but I am not a hardcore fan. There are teams and players I like more than others, but everyone loses so if I think they will lose I will bet against them.

But I know some hardcore fans who never bet against their teams/players. My colleague is a huge fan of Partizan Club, so he is betting on Partizan on every basketball and football game, he bets even when the odds are pretty high and just says that he supports his club no matter what. Of course, sometimes when he is confident in their win he places some higher bets, when he plays against the odds and common sense he places some small bets. Maybe it's hard to understand it, but there are some pretty crazy fans that are ready to do anything for their club.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: m2017 on February 01, 2024, 09:57:34 AM
When I saw a survey indicating that the majority of voters chose the player that only a handful of experts expect to win over the player that has proven to be more dominant, it blew my mind.

I am talking about the boxing match between former champion and big star Anthony Joshua and mma star Francis Nganou. However, I remember not long ago I refused to place a wager on Real Madrid because I desired Girona to win La Liga. In addition, wagering against the Los Angeles Lakers when matched with the best NBA teams is difficult for me.

I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?
Let me ask you a question. Why are you betting? Win, right? Then you should discard your sympathy for a particular team or boxer if they are more likely to lose and bet against them. You may want your favorite team to win, but when gambling you should be objective and bet based on the likely profit rather than the fan's expectations. Nothing personal, just business bets.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: robelneo on February 01, 2024, 12:06:18 PM

I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?
I am one of those who voted I can and I don't have a problem doing that, you can still be loyal without compromising your chances to make a profit if you're a gambler and if there's a possibility to make a profit you'll go for it because its not every day that you can have a chance to make money and if your favorite team happens to be an underdog then so be it, in gambling you should not practice blind loyalty, you can cheer on your team when you're not betting but when you bet and your team happens to be an underdog its nothing personal, you deserve to make a profit when there's an opportunity presented to you.
I think I bet over 20 times already against my favorite team or player, my heart goes to my favorite but my pocket goes to the one who is likely to win.

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Can you do it? You cannot do it?
I cannot put a wager against my dearest star player, club and team.   - 0 (0%)
I can wager against my dearest star player, club and team.   - 7 (100%)
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Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: Zigabel on February 01, 2024, 12:28:38 PM
I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?
I do gamble against my best teams a few times especially when I feel like risking some funds I'm sure loosing wouldn't be a big deal, there are time I will the bookies giving certain odds against my favorite team and I know for sure that there are chances my favourite will loose going by the statistics and history of these teams or individuals meeting so I will make a low stake on such big risk and wait to see the out come, there was a time this season when a team was given over 16 odds to win Manchester city and I risked it and fortunately for me Manchester city lost although they were my favourite but I won the game so there are times I dare to take such risk.

A team been our favourite isn't a guarantee they will win but if they are a very strong team, it very possible they win most of the times and for season when they're not in their very best form you should expect a few losses from them and in such cases playing against them means you are definitely going to feast.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: dunfida on February 01, 2024, 12:44:36 PM
When I saw a survey indicating that the majority of voters chose the player that only a handful of experts expect to win over the player that has proven to be more dominant, it blew my mind.

I am talking about the boxing match between former champion and big star Anthony Joshua and mma star Francis Nganou. However, I remember not long ago I refused to place a wager on Real Madrid because I desired Girona to win La Liga. In addition, wagering against the Los Angeles Lakers when matched with the best NBA teams is difficult for me.

I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?
Actually when it comes on trying out to make some counter bets with the favorite team/player then i have already that experienced several times on which it would really be that basing up into some factors
on which i do usually do tend to check out. Trying out to check their past performances on which you could really be able to go with side to side comparison on which it would really be giving out that kind of idea
on where you should really that put up your bet even if it means that you would really be going against with your favorite team or player. Some might not consider on taking some bets because of some
personal reasons like they would really be that loyal into those teams and to those people who dont really care as long they could be able to win. Loyalty isnt something that applicable everytime.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: Ultegra134 on February 01, 2024, 12:52:56 PM
I'm not a hardcore fan of sports betting either; I mostly stick to football and rely on the little knowledge I have. Generally, I tend to go with what could be called "safe" bets. Although I fully understand that there are no guarantees when it comes to gambling, Although I do have a favorite team, I'll opt to bet on the most superior team, whether or not I'm a fan of them or not. The whole deal about gambling is to earn some money in return. If I don't see my team winning for whatever reason, the opponent team has far better performance, or my team has been having troubles in the past few matches, I'll bet on who's more likely to win.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: rahmad2nd on February 01, 2024, 01:51:16 PM
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I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?

In principle, we can just bet according to what we want. I mean, I bet according to the conditions and situation of the team I choose to bet on. IMO, it's not uncommon for me not to choose to bet on star teams, favorite teams or something like that. So like this, in football betting, I will bet according to the options available. ideally, after I research and analyze the two teams that will compete. plus, referring to various up-to-date information. if 1x2 betting is not ideal, there are many options I can choose from. whether it's Under/Over, handicap, both teams to score and various other options available.

So I don't always have to bet on a team, even if it is a favorite team. Let's be realistic, even if we bet with more than just the idea of ​​having fun. but also to get a win in the betting session that we do. that's why, I always do research, analysis, also involving other variables. Regarding your question, I don't think I will know the answer. because referring to the voting options you display, there is no ideal choice for me.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: borovichok on February 01, 2024, 01:53:51 PM
I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?

I don`t involve club sentiment when I gamble. I can bet against my football team when the possibility of the other team winning is high. I remember betting on Manchester City to win Arsenal regardless that I support Arsenal. I won that bet. However, most of my friends has always criticized me that I am not a die-hard Arsenal fan but the truth is that I am after the money and wouldn`t want to incur any loss because I am a fan. To me, gambling is a business and if you must profit then you must rise above club or player sentiment.

However, the implication of this is that, even when you win the bet, you are still not happy that your team lost. Also, betting against your team means that on that particular game you don`t support your team and when they win you are also not happy because you lost your bet. If you cannot control your emotions then it is good you don`t bet against your team.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: $crypto$ on February 01, 2024, 02:08:01 PM
Almost all of our favorite teams will be bet.... because this will be a good opportunity, in fact I turn with you, if you do not dare to bet on Real Madrid because you want Girona to win then I will not do it because it is certain here we know Real Madrid is a team that is favored by many.

As for other sports, I'm not really interested.

About the percentage of gambling players on bitcointalk I don't know but you will see in the vote, but I'm not sure which one is more but with the favorite team there will be more bets.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: qwertyup23 on February 01, 2024, 02:12:12 PM
When I saw a survey indicating that the majority of voters chose the player that only a handful of experts expect to win over the player that has proven to be more dominant, it blew my mind.

I am talking about the boxing match between former champion and big star Anthony Joshua and mma star Francis Nganou. However, I remember not long ago I refused to place a wager on Real Madrid because I desired Girona to win La Liga. In addition, wagering against the Los Angeles Lakers when matched with the best NBA teams is difficult for me.

I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?

I always go with statistics as it is the best piece of information that I have against the house.

Statistics exist for a reason- they are reliable source of information where all of the match data are collated and compared with each other. If you have information that a certain team dominates a specific sport, then statistics would say that they are most likely to win a match.

For example, if a team has a positive winning percentage against a stronger team, then the most likely to win out of the two would be the former, as per statistics. Additionally, if a team has a huge amount of wins compared to a weaker team with many losses, then the former would most likely be the candidate as the winner.

At the end of the day, there is still that chance that the dark horse or the weaker team may win as nothing is absolute. But in a platform where you only have a few factors to cling on to, I would definitely choose the stronger/dominant team based on statistics.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: danherbias07 on February 01, 2024, 02:20:17 PM
Like today, I cannot bet against the Denver Nuggets although on paper they might lose that game against the OKC Thunder. Jokic was questionable to play, it was written even before the game started but I refused to believe that because of the word "questionable" and I  a big fan of the attendance of Jokic in how much he played last season and this season. So, I my mind is clouded by that idea and still bet for the Nuggets. Jokic didn't play. Sad.

I always have a hard time betting against the team that I root for. Golden State Warriors too. But there are times that I must swallow the truth especially if their best players are not available. I've done that, betting against them, and twice I won my bet because I practiced the profit first before the heart belief of a gambler. It's the wisest decision I made but still, it hurt my feelings just thinking about it, as a fan.
I don't really like betting for a boxer, an MMA fighter, or an NBA team that I love. Sometimes I just try to ignore that they will have a game so that no bets will be made.
It's wrong as a gambler because we are using emotional bets. Most of the time it will be a loss but I don't regret it because the cheering factor for them gets louder when I bet for them which makes me enjoy the game.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: YOSHIE on February 01, 2024, 02:24:25 PM
I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?
If I know the schedule for boxing, football, basketball and so on, what else is one of the clubs competing in, team and also one of my favorite players, of course I didn't think long before I immediately bet on them, it's a different matter of winning and losing, the point is I still bet on my favorite team.

My view, if someone has a favorite club or player, they will do anything, The important thing is that they have done something for their favorite players in betting. There is a special pride in gambling for our favorite players, regardless of winning or losing.
Bottom line: my choice is point 2.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: coin-investor on February 01, 2024, 02:36:35 PM

I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?

You're a gambler, you will take the opportunity to make money even at the expense of your favorite team or fighter I did this many times in our local basketball tournament, I just don't announce that I'm betting against my favorite team so I will not receive criticism.
It's ok to bet against your favorite team, people shift their loyalty and allegiance to another team when one of their favorite players or players moves to the other team.
You don't have to question yourself or anyone questioning you about your loyalty you can still cheer your team but not when you're betting against the other team,
gambling is gambling it's your hard-earned money that you're staking so it's just right that you pick the right bet that will yield winning.
So far on the poll, all the voters voted
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I can wager against my dearest star player, club and team.   - 10 (100%)
but I will not be surprised if some members go the other way, some gamblers are very dedicated to their favorite team.

I once did it in the Pacquiao - Bradley fight, Pacquiao is my all-time favorite but I just felt that Bradley could give him a hard time because of his size and I did win the bet but I still support Pacquiao to this day.



Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: aioc on February 01, 2024, 03:09:23 PM

I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?

There are a lot of players like you and I'm one of them, it's not easy to win in gambling if there is a chance to win even against your favorite team you have to take it, I'm not a blind follower, I'll go for statistic just like in boxing when it's my interest if my analysis leads me where my favorite boxer will lose then I'll go to bet to his opponent, it's gambling, there's no perfect team or perfect fighters and soon your favorite team or fighter will meet a team or fighter that is superior than him or them.
You have to be realistic and practical as a gambler bet a team or a fighter who is favorite to win or if you can take a loss go for your team and hope for an upset but an upset rarely happens.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: uneng on February 01, 2024, 03:18:19 PM
It actually doesn't work like this. You don't have to choose to always bet on favorites or underdogs on every of your bets exclusively. I believe most gamblers will adapt their bets depending on the matches. Sometimes they will prefer to go for the favorites and in other times they will go for the underdogs, accordingly to the respective analysis made towards a specific game.

It's important to mention that personal passions for determined players or teams should never speak louder in gambling matters. Be technical and strict with your analysis, otherwise you are going to raise your chances of losing money due to betting on a team or player just because you are a fan and have an emotional attachment to them. We have already read many stories of gamblers who lost money because they were betting for passion, instead of reason.

Sometimes it can be that the team you are fan eventually become the favorite one of the competition, so in this case you can combine business with pleasure. :D


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: tabas on February 01, 2024, 03:22:07 PM
I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?
A lot and that's typically happens to everyone when we feel like that we should be off betting by that time. And that's because with several reasons like we don't feel that the team or club that we're supporting isn't going to win. Yes, we might be an avid fan but that happens to us when we are emotional and just don't feel that it's the right time to bet for those matches or games. After that, we simply regret when we missed betting and the team that we're supporting looks like they're winning.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: goldkingcoiner on February 01, 2024, 03:23:54 PM
When I saw a survey indicating that the majority of voters chose the player that only a handful of experts expect to win over the player that has proven to be more dominant, it blew my mind.

I am talking about the boxing match between former champion and big star Anthony Joshua and mma star Francis Nganou. However, I remember not long ago I refused to place a wager on Real Madrid because I desired Girona to win La Liga. In addition, wagering against the Los Angeles Lakers when matched with the best NBA teams is difficult for me.

I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?

So far, 0% of people seem to mind wagering against their idols.

Totally understandable. I don't make emotional decisions when I wager against my favorite player or team just because they are my favorite. It takes more than that when I see a nice wagering opportunity. It seems only logical to me that one would choose money and logic over emotions and fantasy. :D

Although I would probably not tell people that I wagered against my favorite team or player because it would make me seem unfaithful and I would rather avoid that social pressure.



Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: agustina2 on February 01, 2024, 03:31:51 PM
I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?

Depends on the odds. Even if I'm a hardcore fan of some players or teams, if the odds are not worth placing a bet, I'd rather skip betting.

Especially in Moneyline, you can always expect that most of the time, your favorite team is mostly listed as Favorites.

Because of that, I will end up betting instead on other betting options such as in basketball, I prefer betting mostly at Over/Under and Series matches.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: Rruchi man on February 01, 2024, 03:31:55 PM
What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?
If you can willingly and without remorse place a bet against your favorite team and players without any odd feeling, you do not really love your team and players, making it that you are gambling for money and the wins.

If you find it difficult to bet against your team or favorite players, and will rather not bet than bet against your team, you have real love for your team and players. This is my simple view.
 


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: cabron on February 01, 2024, 03:52:43 PM
When I saw a survey indicating that the majority of voters chose the player that only a handful of experts expect to win over the player that has proven to be more dominant, it blew my mind.

I am talking about the boxing match between former champion and big star Anthony Joshua and mma star Francis Nganou. However, I remember not long ago I refused to place a wager on Real Madrid because I desired Girona to win La Liga. In addition, wagering against the Los Angeles Lakers when matched with the best NBA teams is difficult for me.

I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?

A real fan of Lebron I think will not gamble against the team but because gamblers prefer to make a profit, it's a way to make money. I think the same for Ngannou vs AJ, Ngannou had gained the confidence of many MMA fans that when he arrived in boxing, they tended to trust his boxing skills. They lost against Fury because of it. But they still liked Ngannou and argued he was cheated. 

And it gonna be the same with the fight against AJ. Even if AJ wins, Ngannou will still be in the hearts of those guys always a fan.
I'm a fan, I bet Ngannou will KO AJ  ;D


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: Findingnemo on February 01, 2024, 04:03:21 PM
I can and I will is my answer.

I don't remember any particular event when I did that but I know me, I am not going to let the emotions take over the common sense, if the result is so obvious that the team against your favorite club has the better chance of winning the game then I will simply go for it with no hesitation at all because you can be fan meanwhile you can think rationally too.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: sunsilk on February 01, 2024, 04:40:20 PM
Depends on the odds. Even if I'm a hardcore fan of some players or teams, if the odds are not worth placing a bet, I'd rather skip betting.
That's true, depending on the odds. Even if we're hardcore fans of a team but if the odds are just going to allow us to win even less than the amount that we bet, it's not justifiable to take that risk.

Because you know with these odds that are too small, it's better to just leave them alone and have a moral support without the need to gamble. With those bets that you'll put on those matches, there's a bigger chance that you might even lose and there can be some twist and turn arounds that you're not expecting to come.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: danadc on February 01, 2024, 05:05:39 PM
I don't know much about betting, but I always bet when there are important matches, like the countries in the World Cup, and I like to bet on criteria that I like. I don't know much about the methods and strategies they use to choose a good team, I know that they take into account whether the player they have on a team is famous or plays more than the other, but I don't know how they measure themselves in that, I only bet on the team that I consider to be stronger, if they have Players that I like Well , I feel very sorry for them , but I bet on the other team, I do it that way but it's because I don't know the criteria they use to have a better perception of the games.

There are some who analyze everything, if the players are injured, or are going through a bad moment or something like that, but I am not like that, if I follow some players, some teams but they are all famous, if there is a team that always plays better and wins as Brazil always bets in favor of Brazil or Argentina.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: Dewi Aries on February 01, 2024, 05:08:01 PM
Although every gambler must have his favorite team or player, I don't think it will have more weight in terms of betting. Gambling is of course trying to make money. And it is supposed to be based on objective analysis and stats rather than emotions.

But sometimes it can't be avoided that when your team or player is in a game you really want them to win and you also want to cheer for them while watching them live. Because of this, you either not bet at all especially if your team or player is a big underdog or you still bet on them but with the minimum amount only.
Everyone who places a bet will of course look at the statistics of the matches played by the team they are going to place a bet on and the statistics of the opponents, because everyone who bets of course wants to win and if their favorite team has a bigger opponent then it is very unlikely they will place a bet on their favorite team because they will not be sure they can win the bet they will place, but if they are determined they will not miss their favorite team's match and will continue to support their favorite team.

Yes, if you are involved in sports betting then obviously one of the things that should not be ignored is to look at the statistics of the teams that will compete, if basically the two teams have fairly equal strength when you look at the standings in one of the ongoing seasons then maybe the result can be 50 - 50, in the sense that there is a high probability of the match ending in a draw, and if the story is different I mean if you find out that your favorite team turns out to have less depth or strength and is not balanced with the opposing team then I think this is the time for you to occasionally betray your team by choosing the opposing team that will be made as your betting place if indeed the tone prioritizes victory because basically the possibility of victory can be greater by doing that way. On the other hand I think this depends on your own choice as well as based on the facts about the state of your favorite team, but as you said if they are very favorite team then maybe they should not focus too much on winning if basically the opponent's strength is more dominant than your favorite team, such as making victory a second priority.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: goinmerry on February 01, 2024, 05:38:43 PM
I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?

It's simple to just easily pick and select our favorite team to win. But as a gambler and sports bettors, we should maximize the potential profit we can get by supporting that team as much as possible. The betting options are not limited to only MONEYLINE and expect that if your favorite team has the upper edge, then odds provider will give them low odds.

As a bettor, and if you want to play gambling, then be wise to pick a bet. However, if you really love and want to show support for that team regardless of anything, then it's your call to freely bet as much as you want, at your own will, and enjoy the whole game.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: serjent05 on February 01, 2024, 05:42:11 PM
I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?

First, we must understand that being a fan is different from gambling.  If we want to maximize the chance of winning, we must set aside our emotions and look at the statistics and information about the competing team.  So if my analogy says that the opponent of my favorite has a better chance of winning, I will put my bet on that team.  My favorites do entertain me but losing money just to prove my loyalty won't give me a loyalty point nor will make them notice that I am betting my money for them to win.  They won't even buy me candy for that, so for me, it is better to be practical and use our mind and bet on the team that has more chance of winning.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: Zoomic on February 01, 2024, 05:45:11 PM
Gamblers who bet in favour of their favourite team or best player to win is only being emotional and bias. A good gambler will differentiate between gambling and love/support for his favourite team. In world cup football matches for instance, many gamblers will bet in favour of their countries to win when deep down they know the team their country will be playing against is way too strong and capable to defeat their country. Many gamblers fail because they attach so much emotions to their gambles which influences them to make wrong choices.

I am not a regular gambler, but whenever I decide to gamble, I analyse my game logically and place my bets without any form of sentiment, irrespective of which team I love the most. Yea, I love that team but my money is also at stake here. This doesn't in any way reduce the love I have for my favourite team because my bets won't play any role in their winning or losing the game.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: Marvelman on February 01, 2024, 07:01:19 PM
Loyalty is complicated, no doubt about it.  When you deeply care about a player, club, or team wanting to support them is only natural.  Betting against them would seem almost traitorous.  but then again, placing a clever wager, chasing that gambling thrill, scoring a big payout. and... I'd be lying if I said temptation never knocks. 

What can I say, the heart wants what it wants.  And the mind wants to maximize profits.  Finding the right balance between devotion and daring is part of what makes sports betting so fascinating.  The emotional stakes involved give every decision an extra weight and meaning.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: dothebeats on February 01, 2024, 08:11:52 PM
I support my teams all the way, but not to the point of insanity wherein I will be actively declining a potential profit. I'm a human after all, and my needs will always come first before my team or any other faction that I support related to sports. If I know already that a possible matchup against the team that I support will put them in a rough spot, I'd surely place a bet and still watch the game. That's still supporting the team you love, albeit in a very limited and no-nonsense way.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: AYOBA on February 01, 2024, 08:38:48 PM
Some people purposely bet against their favorite club so that when the turn comes, by chance, they win significant profits, and this is what causes most people to lose money in gambling, because some always look at the team's big odds. If I have an interest in gambling, even if I want to play a bet, I would rather bet 3 to 4 games and select small odds and then put better money like 2000 Naira up, it will be difficult that the game will not come if you play them, because all those teams I bet will be against small teams that are not strong.

However I consider gambling has an easy game since, if you know how to monitor their statistics, you won't have any trouble losing money, even though it has a bigger risk than other things.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: Fortify on February 01, 2024, 08:44:13 PM
When I saw a survey indicating that the majority of voters chose the player that only a handful of experts expect to win over the player that has proven to be more dominant, it blew my mind.

I am talking about the boxing match between former champion and big star Anthony Joshua and mma star Francis Nganou. However, I remember not long ago I refused to place a wager on Real Madrid because I desired Girona to win La Liga. In addition, wagering against the Los Angeles Lakers when matched with the best NBA teams is difficult for me.

I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?

This is perhaps leaning into the realm of personal biases and deep subconscious discrepancies that are hard for a gambler to understand. It is why clean and simple, mathematics driven odds simulation by the data scrapers that allow bookmakers to come up with odds, will always beat the average joe who will generally be poor at making anything beyond a simple decision, like a top league football team beating a lower league football team being statistically likely to happen. When you get into things like multi bets, most individuals won't stand a chance at winning them consistently over the long term and they are one of the most profitable areas for sportbooks. People naturally tend to drift towards familiarity and it is quite impossible to stay up to date with all teams and players at a reasonable level.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: Fatunad on February 01, 2024, 08:48:17 PM
When I saw a survey indicating that the majority of voters chose the player that only a handful of experts expect to win over the player that has proven to be more dominant, it blew my mind.

I am talking about the boxing match between former champion and big star Anthony Joshua and mma star Francis Nganou. However, I remember not long ago I refused to place a wager on Real Madrid because I desired Girona to win La Liga. In addition, wagering against the Los Angeles Lakers when matched with the best NBA teams is difficult for me.

I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?

This is perhaps leaning into the realm of personal biases and deep subconscious discrepancies that are hard for a gambler to understand. It is why clean and simple, mathematics driven odds simulation by the data scrapers that allow bookmakers to come up with odds, will always beat the average joe who will generally be poor at making anything beyond a simple decision, like a top league football team beating a lower league football team being statistically likely to happen. When you get into things like multi bets, most individuals won't stand a chance at winning them consistently over the long term and they are one of the most profitable areas for sportbooks. People naturally tend to drift towards familiarity and it is quite impossible to stay up to date with all teams and players at a reasonable level.
Really indeed the differences in between things on which your bet would really be that detrimental on how hardly you do support such player or team on which personal biases could neither be applied or not.
If you are that someone who is really that aiming on winning a particular bet then you would really casting away those biases and would be sticking into those analysis on which you could really be able to apply.
Not all people would really be having on the same mindset on which there are really ones who would really be fighting for their loyal support on a player or team but there are ones
who dont really care and could able to make up those kind of adjustments if they wanted to.

For me then i could easily make out those counter bets no matter how i do like a certain team, if i do see that they are on disadvantage then it wont really be that hard for you to
bet on the other side. I dont really like those loyal supports or favoritism.  ;D


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: Huppercase on February 01, 2024, 09:43:38 PM
I am talking about the boxing match between former champion and big star Anthony Joshua and mma star Francis Nganou. However, I remember not long ago I refused to place a wager on Real Madrid because I desired Girona to win La Liga. In addition, wagering against the Los Angeles Lakers when matched with the best NBA teams is difficult for me.

I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?

If my team is incompetents in any game, I will never wager my money on them. I'm loyal to them by love but not to be foolish in making decisions that will bring in money for me while they do their rubbish. Just imagine Arsenal current form are having match with current form of Liverpool, and then I decide to stake huge amount of money on Arsenal to win. That's gambling suicide because I know that Liverpool are going to give them brutality of their lives. Now, knowing these as a fan big fan and then I still went ahead take Arsenal as win.

When you want to wager money on any games, live emotion aside, forget what they are going to do to your favorite, you are not after the statistics this time but your target is to see your prediction comes true. Let's even say your favorite win and you predicted them to lose, you will have something to rejoice over even after you have loss your bets, its better than having nothing at all.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: Pokapoka124 on February 01, 2024, 09:44:21 PM
I think fans are always torn between choosing their favorite teams/athletes over their bet analysis. For me, I don’t make bets that are not in favour of my team. If the stats indicate that my team may be in the losing position, I would prefer not to play the game. Because if I do stake against my team and I win the bet, I won’t experience that thrill of winning because my team lost.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: decodx on February 01, 2024, 09:50:52 PM
I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?

Look, I can't say for sure how many people on here are in the same boat as you - feeling torn between team pride and that little gambling devil on your shoulder.  But let me tell you, you ain't alone! Something about the passion we feel for our teams mixed with the chance to make some dough makes betting against them mighty tempting and  whether that's terrifying or thrilling likely depends on the person. 

Me? I bleed my teams colors through and through.  Putting money on them to lose just don't sit right with me.  But hey, to each their own! I know plenty of folks who throw down a friendly wager here and there even when their squad is playing.  For some, that rush is part of the fun.  At the end of the day, all that really matters is that you're getting your adrenaline pumping one way or another.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: alegotardo on February 01, 2024, 09:56:43 PM
I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?

When we mix gambling and a favorite idol or team, it's difficult to choose between one or the other.
I generally bet in favor of the teams I like the most, as I just play for fun. But for those who bet for money (with the intention of winning), it is more plausible to bet on the team that has the best chance of winning, even if that means betting against your favorite team.

As I said, it's a difficult choice, I usually bet on who I like the most, but I believe that the majority here bet for money. My question is: Whoever bets against your team to make money is rooting for which result? For your favorite team or for risky money?


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: arimamib on February 01, 2024, 10:19:33 PM
I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?

When we mix gambling and a favorite idol or team, it's difficult to choose between one or the other.
I generally bet in favor of the teams I like the most, as I just play for fun. But for those who bet for money (with the intention of winning), it is more plausible to bet on the team that has the best chance of winning, even if that means betting against your favorite team.

As I said, it's a difficult choice, I usually bet on who I like the most, but I believe that the majority here bet for money. My question is: Whoever bets against your team to make money is rooting for which result? For your favorite team or for risky money?
I dont like to have that dilemma. when my favorite team play, I choose to bet on something unique, like how many corner kicks or cards, because it would avoid bigger disappointment if things go unexpected. I like this approach because I prioritize financial gain over emotional attachment to my favorite team. Choosing the team with the best chance of winning based on analytical considerations, statistics, and the current form of the teams involved is another fun that I dont like it involves in my favoritism.

Betting against my favorite team makes me lose the excitement in watching the game. In many cases, people may compartmentalize their emotional loyalty and financial interests. They may hope for their favorite team's success emotionally but recognize that placing a strategic bet against them could be a more rational financial decision. The motivation behind betting against their favorite team is often the pursuit of profit rather than a desire to see the team lose. It's a complex dynamic where personal sentiments and financial considerations intersect, whether it's or the potential gains from successful bets.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: Fundamentals Of on February 02, 2024, 01:43:03 AM
Although every gambler must have his favorite team or player, I don't think it will have more weight in terms of betting. Gambling is of course trying to make money. And it is supposed to be based on objective analysis and stats rather than emotions.

But sometimes it can't be avoided that when your team or player is in a game you really want them to win and you also want to cheer for them while watching them live. Because of this, you either not bet at all especially if your team or player is a big underdog or you still bet on them but with the minimum amount only.
Everyone who places a bet will of course look at the statistics of the matches played by the team they are going to place a bet on and the statistics of the opponents, because everyone who bets of course wants to win and if their favorite team has a bigger opponent then it is very unlikely they will place a bet on their favorite team because they will not be sure they can win the bet they will place, but if they are determined they will not miss their favorite team's match and will continue to support their favorite team.

No, sometimes we bet because it's our favorite team or player that's playing. I don't know if this applies to everybody but there are indeed times when I place such kind of bet. So it's not all the time that you bet based on statistics and analysis. And it's not all the time that money is the goal.

Especially when it involves a player or a team that represents your flag or your country or locality, you won't likely bet on the opposing team even if they will probably win. You will stick to who you truly root for win or lose. And sometimes you can't avoid putting your money where your mouth is. That adds to the fun and solid support.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: Nrcewker on February 02, 2024, 01:49:38 AM
No, I don’t bet on favourites. If my favourite player or team is playing against a strong opponent, then it will be fine for me to not bet on favourites. I won’t bet on that particular match only. It’s better to not make profits than making losses by betting on my favourites. Moreover in sportsbetting, I like to take little risk and bet towards the end of the game when the winner is somehow clear. Hence though my favourite team is losing, I will be able to make money by betting against them.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: Dave1 on February 02, 2024, 02:08:43 AM
I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?

I voted for: I can wager against my dearest star player, club and team.

And it's obvious that everyone is not emotional, we will have to go against our favorite team if we see that they can be defeated or not going to win because the other team is too strong. If we bet based on our emotion and not on our won analysis in sports betting, we will surely lost a lot of money on it.

That's why sports betting is kinda different in terms of gambling as we our own analysis as our betting guide goes hand in hand. And in order to become successful, we all rely on our  thorough analysis to make informed decisions.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: ethereumhunter on February 02, 2024, 06:14:01 AM
I chose number two because I can bet against star players, clubs and my favorite teams. That's my choice because I'm not too big a fan of a team. That will only prevent me from seeing the abilities of the other teams and will only eliminate my chance to win. It depends on each person how they will behave when they see that their favorite team has no chance of winning against the opposing team. Some people still bet by placing their choice on their favorite team and hope that their favorite team can win because it could surprise the opposing team. And some people won't place a bet if they see no chance of their favorite team winning. So actually it depends on their own analysis before they decide to place a bet or watch the match.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: Hewlet on February 02, 2024, 06:27:41 AM
When I saw a survey indicating that the majority of voters chose the player that only a handful of experts expect to win over the player that has proven to be more dominant, it blew my mind.

I am talking about the boxing match between former champion and big star Anthony Joshua and mma star Francis Nganou. However, I remember not long ago I refused to place a wager on Real Madrid because I desired Girona to win La Liga. In addition, wagering against the Los Angeles Lakers when matched with the best NBA teams is difficult for me.

I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?
that's what is called being matured with our gambling because if you bring your emotions into gambling, the kind of loss you will experience will shok you.

This is a common thing among soccer gamblers as they most time they play in favour of the team they are supporting. Gamble with emotion and get the outcome to your own peril. Most Manchester United and Chelsea fans have faced this kind of situation when these two club are playing against themselves, because of the regular banter that is going on between those two teams, some of the fans will use pride or the love they have for thier club and predict in favour of their team putting a deft hear to the current strength of their team


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: abel1337 on February 02, 2024, 07:15:24 AM
Follow the money, I would pick the enemy team if it has a higher chance of winning on a match agains't my favorite team. Call me bandwagon but we are doing gambling here, our money is on the line. The fact that you are using your emotion on doing gambling increases the chance that you can lose your bet.

There are hardcore fans that brings their fanboy/fangirl level at it's peak, to the point that it can affect their personal life just because of the team they are supporting. This usually happens on soccer fans, as far as I know soccer fans are crazy loyal to their supported teams that it sparks physical harms between fas during matches. This is one of the example of those gamblers who I think will bet their favorite team even if it is obvious that the team they are supporting has a lesser chance of winning.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: Slow death on February 02, 2024, 01:57:33 PM
One of the many rules I have placed on myself is to never place a bet on a team based on feelings, I'm a Real Madrid fan, I'm a PSG fan, I'm a Bayern fan, I'm a Benfica fan, I'm a Juventus fan. , I'm a fan of Liverpool and I'm a fan of the players of these teams that I'm a fan of, but even though I'm a fan of them, I don't place bets based on feelings. When I analyze the games I don't think about how I would like the team I'm a fan to win, I don't do that. I just focus on data from the last 5 home and away games. after I place my bets and support the team I'm a fan of. This allows me to place my bets based on the data I find in my research and also allows me to watch the games supporting the teams I'm a fan of.

Of course, when I place bets there are many cases in which the teams I'm a fan of play against weak teams and as the odds are very good I bet on the team I'm a fan of, as by conscience the teams I'm a fan of are the top teams in their leagues so my bets constantly include teams that I'm a fan of and when I watch the game then I'm rooting for the team that I'm a fan of and I also bet on them. It's something very pleasant to see a team I'm a fan of winning and making a profit. But again I have to repeat myself by saying that I'm betting on the team that I analyzed and came to the conclusion that they have a greater chance of winning and giving me a profit. I'm not betting because of feelings.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: Jawhead999 on February 02, 2024, 02:05:46 PM
I think there's nothing bad to bet against our favorite players or teams, but if you're really not able to do that, it's better if you not make a bet instead of bet your favorite players or teams when you're not convinced they will able to win.

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I cannot put a wager against my dearest star player, club and team.   - 0 (0%)
I can wager against my dearest star player, club and team.   - 21 (100%)
Total Voters: 21
So far all the voters voted the second option, it's good to see many gamblers here know how to bet.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: suzanne5223 on February 02, 2024, 02:40:57 PM
No matter your mode of gambling strategy you'll see some gamblers like you who either bet on the fighter that's more dominant or the opponent predicted to be the winner based on the expert I believe.
Whenever I am in this dilemma position what I do is ignore everything said about the 2 fighters check their track record, the experience they had in the field, and their current fitness level this is how I know Wilder will lose his last fight.
I am not a fan that bets based on my dearest fighter, I bet based on what I believe will end the fight/tournament result.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: Beparanf on February 02, 2024, 02:47:06 PM
I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?

It’s normal to feel this way since you knew how your favorite player and team perform. It’s either you knew that they are destined to lose or they have percentage on winning.

I don’t have a favorite team right now since I’m following the franchise but rather the player itself so it’s very rare for me to feel this way when placing bet on sportsbook. I always choose the heavy favorites whenever I’m betting on an uncharted sport’s territory because I feel safe this way in contrary to betting against the majority.

The only time I wager on my favorite team is way back when Goldenstates warrior dominates the league and I always betting on the 3 pts count of Curry as easy win that time.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: Pesona1 on February 02, 2024, 02:59:49 PM
I think there's nothing bad to bet against our favorite players or teams, but if you're really not able to do that, it's better if you not make a bet instead of bet your favorite players or teams when you're not convinced they will able to win.

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I cannot put a wager against my dearest star player, club and team.   - 0 (0%)
I can wager against my dearest star player, club and team.   - 21 (100%)
Total Voters: 21
So far all the voters voted the second option, it's good to see many gamblers here know how to bet.
The survey proves that our favorite club is not a priority if the opponent is more dominant and can give us an advantage or win, I think gamblers do not have high loyalty to one a fighter or club if their favorite fighter or club has a greater chance of losing, for a gambler money or winnings are more important than his favorite club or fighter, I personally do the same thing as other members here, when betting on football of course I will hold another team that is the opponent of my favorite team if that team is better and strong, regarding support, of course I still support my favorite team as a fan, but regarding choice in gambling, of course the one that is stronger and has a greater winning percentage will be my choice.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: Dewi Aries on February 02, 2024, 07:30:33 PM
Follow the money, I would pick the enemy team if it has a higher chance of winning on a match agains't my favorite team. Call me bandwagon but we are doing gambling here, our money is on the line. The fact that you are using your emotion on doing gambling increases the chance that you can lose your bet.

I think this is a choice that all depends on what the purpose of your gambling is whether it is to earn or for fun, if your gambling goal is more towards a win then obviously I will also do the same thing that is not going to see about whether it is my favorite team or not but obviously if the opposing team has a greater possibility of winning when we look at the situation and their track record then obviously I will bet my money on something more likely, as you said that after all our money is at stake, so if there is an option that can be more "possible" then obviously that is worth choosing, but sometimes there are also those who do not care about this and they still choose their favorite team even though the odds are small, it seems that the loss factor is not entirely a problem for them. Honestly, I'm not going to turn a blind eye to the situation because after all, money is something we always need, so if there is a more likely option that is based on facts then obviously that's what I think is worth choosing.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: Getmon on February 03, 2024, 02:43:15 AM
Alright buddies, I also voted for I can wager against my dearest star player, club and team. It makes me feel bad, but I did it before. But there are days that my mind is not conditioned to wager against the player, club, and team that I idolized.

All votes are very similar, but I saw responses that are against wagering to their number one players, clubs and teams. In any case, we are all big fans, but we experienced wagering against our favorites. There are only a handful of fans who have always followed their favorites and never wagered against them.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: virasog on February 03, 2024, 02:52:42 AM
When I saw a survey indicating that the majority of voters chose the player that only a handful of experts expect to win over the player that has proven to be more dominant, it blew my mind.

I am talking about the boxing match between former champion and big star Anthony Joshua and mma star Francis Nganou. However, I remember not long ago I refused to place a wager on Real Madrid because I desired Girona to win La Liga. In addition, wagering against the Los Angeles Lakers when matched with the best NBA teams is difficult for me.

I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?

As i understand this, you are saying that how many people have a feeling for a team and they want that team to win but since that their favorite team is weak, so they are hesitant to place a bet on them? Instead, they may place the bet on the opposite team whom they are not supporting but they know that the chances of winning of that team is more and therefore they can win the bet.

Well, this is a really tough situation as if you place the bet on the opposite team (the one you do not want to win), you will want that team to win so that you do not lose your money. This means that your affection with your favourite team is no longer there as if they win, you will lose your bet money.

In such a situation, where the emotions are too much for a team, it's better not to bet on that match and only watch it and stay with your beloved team and hope they win.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: yahoo62278 on February 03, 2024, 03:36:07 AM
When I saw a survey indicating that the majority of voters chose the player that only a handful of experts expect to win over the player that has proven to be more dominant, it blew my mind.

I am talking about the boxing match between former champion and big star Anthony Joshua and mma star Francis Nganou. However, I remember not long ago I refused to place a wager on Real Madrid because I desired Girona to win La Liga. In addition, wagering against the Los Angeles Lakers when matched with the best NBA teams is difficult for me.

I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?
There are a lot of gamblers out there that bet with their heart and not their brain. You say you are a Lakers fan, so you will never bet against them? You will end up losing more then you ever win betting that way. A team is not the same team night after night or year after year. Different starting lineups, injuries, foul trouble etc. All play a factor in the outcome of a game.

When you are betting you have to consider everything man.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: maydna on February 03, 2024, 03:15:05 PM
I can bet against star players, clubs, and my favorite team if the opponent has much better abilities than my favorite team. But I stick to my limits in gambling and don't immediately use big money bets even though I feel my chosen team can win easily. I don't feel bad because that's what I have to decide if I want to place a bet. But I will understand if some people cannot place a bet against their favorite team because they are big fans of that team. Betting or not betting against your favorite team will be your decision, which is normal. I follow where the money goes ;D


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: Promocodeudo on February 03, 2024, 04:12:54 PM
When I saw a survey indicating that the majority of voters chose the player that only a handful of experts expect to win over the player that has proven to be more dominant, it blew my mind.

I am talking about the boxing match between former champion and big star Anthony Joshua and mma star Francis Nganou. However, I remember not long ago I refused to place a wager on Real Madrid because I desired Girona to win La Liga. In addition, wagering against the Los Angeles Lakers when matched with the best NBA teams is difficult for me.

I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?

I don't bet on a team because they are my favourite, no, I bet on a team for many reason, I check the team strength, statistics between the two and the current form and performance of the both team, with this I can string know my preferred prediction for the both teams, though my predictions may be wrong because the outcome of the match is what matters but I chose to do it that way because that's the only way for me to be free from doubt in any match I predict.
Your star might be in a club that's is not doing well, despite that he may be doing his best in that club, but you should know that he is only a player, without other players, there is nothing he can do, a player can not make an entire football team.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: Zigabel on February 03, 2024, 04:34:38 PM
When I saw a survey indicating that the majority of voters chose the player that only a handful of experts expect to win over the player that has proven to be more dominant, it blew my mind.

I am talking about the boxing match between former champion and big star Anthony Joshua and mma star Francis Nganou. However,
Experts have made their predictions and it's very normal for most persons to want to key into the expert predictions because they believe these set of expert's have made expert analysis and so it's very probable their predictions will make sense and come to play so it's very normal and not really surprising because even with the bookies, there are times they will give smaller odds to certain teams because they feel by their analysis they stand a better chance but at the end of the day it turns out otherwise so is very common amongst gamblers to want to make picks putting such to consideration.

The experience and prove over the years by the other opponent may not be really put to consideration atm because probably he's no longer have such form again as at this time and probably is not in much form according to the taughts of the experts analyst but then by the end of the game we would know better.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on February 03, 2024, 05:04:22 PM
When I saw a survey indicating that the majority of voters chose the player that only a handful of experts expect to win over the player that has proven to be more dominant, it blew my mind.

I am talking about the boxing match between former champion and big star Anthony Joshua and mma star Francis Nganou. However, I remember not long ago I refused to place a wager on Real Madrid because I desired Girona to win La Liga. In addition, wagering against the Los Angeles Lakers when matched with the best NBA teams is difficult for me.

I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?
If you attach emotion to your decision making in gambling, you will either continually lose money, or lose opportunities to make money.
As for me, I will wager against any star player, club or team, and it does not matter how much I love and support the player, team or club, for as long as money is what we are talking about, I will bet against anybody.

Just incase you don't know, those star players, team or club are all making money for themselves, they get paid whether to win or lose their game, and non of them even know what you or me exists, and yet, you will willingly and wholeheartedly lose more, or lose an opportunity to make money for their sake? This is simply means you are not yet a true gambler, for a true gambler will not fall in love with particular player to the extent that it has to cost them money. It is commonly said that business comes before pleasure, this is for people who are serious minded when it comes to business, so also in gambling, I will keep love aside and make money where ever I find the opportunity.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: Oilacris on February 03, 2024, 05:17:38 PM
When I saw a survey indicating that the majority of voters chose the player that only a handful of experts expect to win over the player that has proven to be more dominant, it blew my mind.

I am talking about the boxing match between former champion and big star Anthony Joshua and mma star Francis Nganou. However, I remember not long ago I refused to place a wager on Real Madrid because I desired Girona to win La Liga. In addition, wagering against the Los Angeles Lakers when matched with the best NBA teams is difficult for me.

I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?

I don't bet on a team because they are my favourite, no, I bet on a team for many reason, I check the team strength, statistics between the two and the current form and performance of the both team, with this I can string know my preferred prediction for the both teams, though my predictions may be wrong because the outcome of the match is what matters but I chose to do it that way because that's the only way for me to be free from doubt in any match I predict.
Your star might be in a club that's is not doing well, despite that he may be doing his best in that club, but you should know that he is only a player, without other players, there is nothing he can do, a player can not make an entire football team.
Yes, and everything that really looks odd and its impossible  that you cant really be able to make out some comparison in between on which means that you could be able to determine on which one
is really that having the upperhand this time and have that disadvantage, even if we do say that the team you do like is really that on below then it would really be just that dumb that you would really be betting forcibly into the team you do like but if you are really that a solid fan then you would definitely be doing it and doesnt really matter whether you do win or lose as long you would really be supporting on the team you do like but if you do came for profits of course then you would be sticking into those who do have higher chances of winning.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: AnonBitCoiner on February 03, 2024, 06:34:59 PM
Although every gambler must have his favorite team or player, I don't think it will have more weight in terms of betting. Gambling is of course trying to make money. And it is supposed to be based on objective analysis and stats rather than emotions.

But sometimes it can't be avoided that when your team or player is in a game you really want them to win and you also want to cheer for them while watching them live. Because of this, you either not bet at all especially if your team or player is a big underdog or you still bet on them but with the minimum amount only.

In gambling every gambler decide to bet based on the activities of the players in past matches but they don't know that every player does not play well in every match so they can loss their bet easily in this way. In gambler a single person win while all other losses money which means that there is no knowledge of anything is used but the actual thing is luck which sometimes make you Victorious and sometimes a looser.

If you know the team well that it's performance will not be good then you choose little sum for gambling but if you are confident about your team then huge sum will used for gambling. Gambler never knows what will happen but put a bet on unknown team sometimes so there is no guarantee about his winning but most of the time he loss big amount.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: KosmoKisa on February 03, 2024, 06:47:09 PM
Betting against your favorite team or player happens sometimes. Reasons include: Thinking the underdog might win: Even if experts disagree, upsets happen! Some people like the bigger payouts from underdog bets. Adding excitement: If your team is likely to win anyway, betting against them can make the game more interesting. Hedging other bets: If you already bet on one team, betting on the other to lose can lessen your potential loss


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: flipme on February 03, 2024, 09:31:25 PM
When I saw a survey indicating that the majority of voters chose the player that only a handful of experts expect to win over the player that has proven to be more dominant, it blew my mind.

I am talking about the boxing match between former champion and big star Anthony Joshua and mma star Francis Nganou. However, I remember not long ago I refused to place a wager on Real Madrid because I desired Girona to win La Liga. In addition, wagering against the Los Angeles Lakers when matched with the best NBA teams is difficult for me.

I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?

Sometimes my favorite team is going through a bad period and I feel that they might lose points, but I never bet against them. I don't bet against individual athletes that I like and admire a lot. I guess I am a bit emotional about it. However, there are always many matches to bet on. I don't have only one option. If I rejected one option I might have a regret, but I don't have one option. I have a lot of alternatives and betting on other matches makes me feel more comfortable.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: Weawant on February 03, 2024, 10:43:14 PM
Sometimes my favorite team is going through a bad period and I feel that they might lose points, but I never bet against them. I don't bet against individual athletes that I like and admire a lot. I guess I am a bit emotional about it. However, there are always many matches to bet on. I don't have only one option. If I rejected one option I might have a regret, but I don't have one option. I have a lot of alternatives and betting on other matches makes me feel more comfortable.
If I see my favorite team in their worse condition and I see it as an opportunity to make some good cash off it trust me I will utilize such opportunity and it still doesn't make me any less of a fan to such team it's just that I need to utilize an opportunity which I didn't fail to at the point when the opportunity did avail it self to me.

Making money off the weakness of your favourite team isn't really a bad idea and it doesn't stop the fact that you are still a loyal fan but then I can loose money knowing too well that they are weak then I bet on them to lose I mean that doesn't make sense except I will rather no gamble but if I must I will against them except I'm in for just entertainment strictly but if I'm hoping ro make money then there will be no need trying to be too fanatic at the expense of your pocket because you may go bankrupt and nobody cares, it will be seen like you just lost your funds to the casino just like that.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: Saint-loup on February 03, 2024, 10:48:47 PM
That's an interesting poll, but I don't believe in the results. You should ask to none/fake gamblers to refrain from participating IMO. Because currently results are 100% for "I can wager against my dearest star player, club and team" and 0% against with 24 voters. While it's pretty well known that most people like betting on their favorite team or player.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: Casdinyard on February 03, 2024, 11:22:28 PM
I'm not one to sentimentalize over parasocial relationships like supporting a team or a certain player. After all at the end of the day unless I out myself as their superfan and I get recognized for it I reckon none of these people would even bother learning about my life let alone grieving for me when I finally die. So I don't really care for betting against my "favorite team". If I realized the opponents could give them a hard time and they could lose the game on a concrete and unbiased basis then I'd see myself betting against them. After all it's not bad to win a few games here and there even when you're gambling for fun. I'd argue that it's even more fulfilling to bet against your favorite team and then be proven wrong afterwards when they win the match. It's going to give you that sense of satisfaction knowing that you shouldn't have doubted them in the first place, or at least that's the case for me. For others this may vary, but the bottomline is that there's no tangible benefit nor harm to betting against your favorite team/player, so why bother going so overboard with fanboying/fangirling that you wouldn't even bet against them when there's good basis to prove it anyway?

I say the only thing you should really care about when you gamble is yourself, and how much you're losing. If you put in even more factors to consider it's just going to complicate things and you'd end up losing more money in the process. Set things straight and make your betting as concise as possible, even if it means "betraying your team" lol.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: taufik123 on February 03, 2024, 11:54:53 PM
That's an interesting poll, but I don't believe in the results. You should ask to none/fake gamblers to refrain from participating IMO. Because currently results are 100% for "I can wager against my dearest star player, club and team" and 0% against with 24 voters. While it's pretty well known that most people like betting on their favorite team or player.

It's like saying that it's more proud to continue supporting your beloved player or club even though the quality and play of the opponent is better.
If this is just for entertainment and continuing to support players or clubs that will even lose in the end, of course it can be said to be a stupid thing.
Throwing away bets just to watch the losers.

I'd rather skip that bet than have to look at predictable results.
Whichever favorite team plays if it gets a draw opponent maybe it's still a hope to bet.
Betting for profit will be better than betting to see the favorite player beaten.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: oktana on February 03, 2024, 11:59:30 PM
Gambling is all about risk and money. Right? Tell me why you wouldn’t bet against your own team if you see that they won’t make it in the fight they are going into? You just have to be realistic with yourself. If you know that the other team is stronger, you have two options, it’s either you stake against your team or you don’t stake for that game at all. It’ll likely be difficult for you to stake against your own team but it’s just you admitting the truth.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: magneto on February 04, 2024, 03:49:28 AM
As a gambler you should always be willing to go against what your fan conviction tells you. Otherwise you will be guaranteed to lose money in the long run, because bookies will always have a pricing edge on you.

When I see that my team is struggling, I would be the first to lay them, because that's my edge - following one particular team closely. It is incredibly unlikely for the team that you are backing to consistently outperform market expectations.

If you are unable to objectively assess how your team is going, then it's probably best to stay out of betting on that team altogether and move onto other games/sports.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: letteredhub on February 04, 2024, 04:16:53 AM
When I saw a survey indicating that the majority of voters chose the player that only a handful of experts expect to win over the player that has proven to be more dominant, it blew my mind.

I am talking about the boxing match between former champion and big star Anthony Joshua and mma star Francis Nganou. However, I remember not long ago I refused to place a wager on Real Madrid because I desired Girona to win La Liga. In addition, wagering against the Los Angeles Lakers when matched with the best NBA teams is difficult for me.

I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?

Sometimes my favorite team is going through a bad period and I feel that they might lose points, but I never bet against them. I don't bet against individual athletes that I like and admire a lot. I guess I am a bit emotional about it. However, there are always many matches to bet on. I don't have only one option. If I rejected one option I might have a regret, but I don't have one option. I have a lot of alternatives and betting on other matches makes me feel more comfortable.
Reading through I can perceive what are emotional gambler you are regarding to your team's or an individual athlete support as a fan. You remind me of a guy I knew in my former location, rather for him to bet against his favourite team he will prefer not to pick that game into his bet slip and till date I wonder the manner of joy he deeives from been so loyal to the extend of not admitting to take advantage of a game he's aware of an imminent loss against his team in his gambling to make money out of it. Just pondering does those stars, teams and clubs knows that there are people like this that exists in their career that will always stick to them even in losing and winning times despite how much money is at risk.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: ethereumhunter on February 04, 2024, 08:49:46 AM
Gambling is all about risk and money. Right? Tell me why you wouldn’t bet against your own team if you see that they won’t make it in the fight they are going into? You just have to be realistic with yourself. If you know that the other team is stronger, you have two options, it’s either you stake against your team or you don’t stake for that game at all. It’ll likely be difficult for you to stake against your own team but it’s just you admitting the truth.
Maybe he still felt uncomfortable betting against his team so he didn't place that bet. That is normal because someone who already likes their team will not place a bet against their team as a form of support. It is each person's choice when they see their favourite team compete with the opposing team, but their favourite team does not have a better performance than the opposing team. So he will not place a bet against his favorite team. And if someone bets against their favourite team, they may have different considerations than the previous person. Maybe he wants to win from all the matches he knows so he will place bets to get more money.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: Ever-young on February 04, 2024, 09:40:34 AM
Their is different between being a fans of a team and wanting to place a bet to win, when you want to fans a team you have things which make you chose that over others and that’s it, but when it comes to wagering you don’t need to allow that love you have for your team to blindfold you from the truth about the outcome of a particular game, I have place a bet against a team am so much in love with, but that’s just gambling wager to win and not to support and praise your team if I see my fan club playing against whom I don’t see them winning I bet for them to lose but that does not change the fact that i still fans them and mean well for them.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: Ziskinberg on February 04, 2024, 10:18:30 AM
No hard feelings, this is gambling, we bet based on our analyisis, not with our feelings.

I choose his "I can wager against my dearest star player, club and team.".... And honestly, sometimes, I make it a habit to bet on a team that I don't like, because according to my experience and I had analyze it, I won most of the time when I'm betting against the team that I love. I think this is what we called as mind games, oddsmaker knows how people are feeling, and they try to tweak the line so it will become a trap as gamblers who like to bet on their favorite team or player makes easy for them to decide when they bet.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: borovichok on February 04, 2024, 10:36:26 AM
If I see my favorite team in their worse condition and I see it as an opportunity to make some good cash off it trust me I will utilize such opportunity and it still doesn't make me any less of a fan to such team it's just that I need to utilize an opportunity which I didn't fail to at the point when the opportunity did avail it self to me.

How do you feel when your team wins even if they are in their worst condition? Happy that your team won or sad that you lost? This can leave a gambler in a state of dilemma where something that is supposed to bring happiness is creating ill feelings. I have been in this position where I placed a bet against my team because at that time my team was on a bad run due to injuries and the team they were up against was a team on a winning streak and even the league table toppers. My team won that match regardless of the bad run and and wasn`t happy because I staked against them. It can be difficult to objectively support your team when you have a financial incentive for them to lose.

Humans are naturally driven by emotions and betting against your team can negatively intensify emotions. If you have staked against your team, you may find yourself hoping for their failure or feeling conflicted about their success. This will take away the enjoyment of watching and supporting your team.




Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: GxSTxV on February 04, 2024, 10:51:58 AM
You gamble and set bets against any club or favorite fighter, not because you like him or your support him, but you think he will win or that team going to win the match. Betting and being a fan of any sport club, player, horse is something very different as you cannot lose money just because you are a fan.
Anyone betting against his favorite players or team not because he is a less fan than another fan, but it’s his expectation that tells him and his logic before gambling, useless emotions are useless in these cases which can drive you to lose money.

For instance, Real Madrid is playing against a second level league of your hometown team, in this case you know the odds are very against you hometown team as we all know Real Madrid is a very strong team, so are you going to bet against Real Madrid? Just because some emotions? It’s not that you are betraying anything but your pocket.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: oktana on February 04, 2024, 10:57:19 AM
Their is different between being a fans of a team and wanting to place a bet to win, when you want to fans a team you have things which make you chose that over others and that’s it, but when it comes to wagering you don’t need to allow that love you have for your team to blindfold you from the truth about the outcome of a particular game, I have place a bet against a team am so much in love with, but that’s just gambling wager to win and not to support and praise your team if I see my fan club playing against whom I don’t see them winning I bet for them to lose but that does not change the fact that i still fans them and mean well for them.

I agree and even replied that it’s okay to wager against your team if you believe and know that they don’t stand a chance. But think about this, imagine how terrible you’d feel if you wager against your own or favorite team and they end up winning that match ;D
Just thinking out loud because you’d be devastated. But as a gambler, you should see it as a normal loss and that you played your part of following your analysis.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: Solosanz on February 04, 2024, 11:16:48 AM
For instance, Real Madrid is playing against a second level league of your hometown team, in this case you know the odds are very against you hometown team as we all know Real Madrid is a very strong team, so are you going to bet against Real Madrid? Just because some emotions? It’s not that you are betraying anything but your pocket.
It depends on which league they played, how can a second level league has a match against Real Madrid? :D mostly just a friendly match, it's a match where you don't have to win. Real Madrid could use their second line up because they know your hometown team aren't strong. Upset could happen as the ball is round except Real Madrid play using their best eleven players, the chance to win is almost impossible.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: Blitzboy on February 04, 2024, 02:38:58 PM
You gamble and set bets against any club or favorite fighter, not because you like him or your support him, but you think he will win or that team going to win the match. Betting and being a fan of any sport club, player, horse is something very different as you cannot lose money just because you are a fan.
Anyone betting against his favorite players or team not because he is a less fan than another fan, but it’s his expectation that tells him and his logic before gambling, useless emotions are useless in these cases which can drive you to lose money.

For instance, Real Madrid is playing against a second level league of your hometown team, in this case you know the odds are very against you hometown team as we all know Real Madrid is a very strong team, so are you going to bet against Real Madrid? Just because some emotions? It’s not that you are betraying anything but your pocket.
Though I love my local team, logic wins out over Real Madrid. An admission of reality, not disloyalty. Bet against Real Madrid, fueled by local pride, could be like throwing money away.

Successful betting demands a calm head and unbiased study of chances and probability, in my experience. My heart might race if my hometown team wins an unexpected game. Bets arent only a sign of support. This is a measured risk based on realistic expectations, not wishful thinking. This makes me a sensible fan who appreciates the thrill of the game while respecting betting dynamics.

Talk about fun gambling's essence. Experience the thrill of the unexpected and join a global talent and strategy spectacular. Responsible betting makes sports more fun. Its a personal challenge, assessment of game knowledge, and acceptance of sports' unpredictability. While different, betting and fandom can complement one other in the large, lively world of sports.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on February 04, 2024, 04:51:14 PM
You gamble and set bets against any club or favorite fighter, not because you like him or your support him, but you think he will win or that team going to win the match. Betting and being a fan of any sport club, player, horse is something very different as you cannot lose money just because you are a fan.
Anyone betting against his favorite players or team not because he is a less fan than another fan, but it’s his expectation that tells him and his logic before gambling, useless emotions are useless in these cases which can drive you to lose money.

For instance, Real Madrid is playing against a second level league of your hometown team, in this case you know the odds are very against you hometown team as we all know Real Madrid is a very strong team, so are you going to bet against Real Madrid? Just because some emotions? It’s not that you are betraying anything but your pocket.
Though I love my local team, logic wins out over Real Madrid. An admission of reality, not disloyalty. Bet against Real Madrid, fueled by local pride, could be like throwing money away.

Successful betting demands a calm head and unbiased study of chances and probability, in my experience. My heart might race if my hometown team wins an unexpected game. Bets arent only a sign of support. This is a measured risk based on realistic expectations, not wishful thinking. This makes me a sensible fan who appreciates the thrill of the game while respecting betting dynamics.

Talk about fun gambling's essence. Experience the thrill of the unexpected and join a global talent and strategy spectacular. Responsible betting makes sports more fun. Its a personal challenge, assessment of game knowledge, and acceptance of sports' unpredictability. While different, betting and fandom can complement one other in the large, lively world of sports.


These types of things happen a lot in football , we are fans and I know that Sometimes things About our teams hurt us, so sometimes we make mistakes , I know that Madrid is a very big team and that they have a good chance of winning For me , Madrid is the best team in the world, until now things are like that, because they are and are fighting a lot for the League , it is Said that Ancelotti also Wants to win the UCL, so things can happen very Differently than those who can be the reality , in the event that Madrid plays against my local team I know and I am Completely right that my team will not be able to do Anything against them and even less so if Madrid's starter plays , if Madrid Knows all its potential I know that my team does not have the players to compete man to man, half the team would need at least 4 players from Madrid and the Rest is left Unguarded and if they do not Take good Care of themselves they will Score, I am you to one Side and bet on the right But why ? because things must always be this Way.

We are not going to lose money just for the love of the Team , Because we have to put logic into things and do them better, when a team plays , let's say the Champion of the World Aagainst my national team, from my national team, then knowing that they are superior to my team, I bet in favor of my team, until the last moment I Defend my team, it doesn't matter if I lose , because it is something that remains in my heart and in my way of seeing the sport , because it is my country, now I do it So, because the country lately in football things are doing very well in Football so they are Capable of doing anything well, that is what I see that can be Done , however we are people who can change other things, there are some Pesoans don't stop at that , they bet on Whoever they think is best to win, even if it's Against their own team , which I don't know whether to Admire them or think who knows what you think of them.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: AmoreJaz on February 04, 2024, 08:32:43 PM
For instance, Real Madrid is playing against a second level league of your hometown team, in this case you know the odds are very against you hometown team as we all know Real Madrid is a very strong team, so are you going to bet against Real Madrid? Just because some emotions? It’s not that you are betraying anything but your pocket.
It depends on which league they played, how can a second level league has a match against Real Madrid? :D mostly just a friendly match, it's a match where you don't have to win. Real Madrid could use their second line up because they know your hometown team aren't strong. Upset could happen as the ball is round except Real Madrid play using their best eleven players, the chance to win is almost impossible.

Gx is just giving an example in this case. so if it happens that a strong team is playing opposite on your favourite team, and you know your team is not in the level of the strong team, of course where will you place your bet?
this is why it is understandable based on the results of the poll so far. most betted on the option that they will bet on the opposite team of their favourite. of course, at the end of the day, it is your money at stake and not coming from your favourite team. you may be rooting for them but in terms of financials, you need to be smart on this.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: Saisher on February 04, 2024, 08:58:37 PM
For instance, Real Madrid is playing against a second level league of your hometown team, in this case you know the odds are very against you hometown team as we all know Real Madrid is a very strong team, so are you going to bet against Real Madrid? Just because some emotions? It’s not that you are betraying anything but your pocket.
It depends on which league they played, how can a second level league has a match against Real Madrid? :D mostly just a friendly match, it's a match where you don't have to win. Real Madrid could use their second line up because they know your hometown team aren't strong. Upset could happen as the ball is round except Real Madrid play using their best eleven players, the chance to win is almost impossible.

Gx is just giving an example in this case. so if it happens that a strong team is playing opposite on your favourite team, and you know your team is not in the level of the strong team, of course where will you place your bet?
this is why it is understandable based on the results of the poll so far. most betted on the option that they will bet on the opposite team of their favourite. of course, at the end of the day, it is your money at stake and not coming from your favourite team. you may be rooting for them but in terms of financials, you need to be smart on this.

And so far this is the result of the poll

I cannot put a wager against my dearest star player, club and team.   - 0 (0%)
I can wager against my dearest star player, club and team.   - 30 (100%)
Remove Vote
Total Voters: 30

No one's going to throw their money away in the name of loyalty because in gambling there's no such this as blind loyalty. it's different to show support and when you're betting, I also have no problem betting against my favorite team but I'm not going to cheer up anyone of them I'll just go with the flow, and if my favorite got  an upset I will be too happy for them.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: o48o on February 04, 2024, 09:08:22 PM
I like to bet on my favorites, as it makes the mach more exciting, but i definitely can bet against my favorite person / team if i am afraid that they win. I often wanted to do that in elections, because if the person i like loses, at least i am able to cash in and comfort myself with that. I am not that mentally invested to every sport my country men participate. But i have thought betting on opposition when i am afraid my fav loses. And that's not only in sports, but in eurovision, politics, oscars and things like that. Anything i can bet on really. I am not sure how it would be hurting anyone, except maybe nudging the odds with my bet with tiniest possible way.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: Dewi Aries on February 04, 2024, 09:11:47 PM
For instance, Real Madrid is playing against a second level league of your hometown team, in this case you know the odds are very against you hometown team as we all know Real Madrid is a very strong team, so are you going to bet against Real Madrid? Just because some emotions? It’s not that you are betraying anything but your pocket.
It depends on which league they played, how can a second level league has a match against Real Madrid? :D mostly just a friendly match, it's a match where you don't have to win. Real Madrid could use their second line up because they know your hometown team aren't strong. Upset could happen as the ball is round except Real Madrid play using their best eleven players, the chance to win is almost impossible.

Gx is just giving an example in this case. so if it happens that a strong team is playing opposite on your favourite team, and you know your team is not in the level of the strong team, of course where will you place your bet?
this is why it is understandable based on the results of the poll so far. most betted on the option that they will bet on the opposite team of their favourite. of course, at the end of the day, it is your money at stake and not coming from your favourite team. you may be rooting for them but in terms of financials, you need to be smart on this.

Many people question this, I think it's quite simple and there may be two choices that gamblers can take if their favorite team is faced with an opponent that is stronger overall and proven by its track record. If I were you or I mean if I were in a situation like that then obviously I would prefer to bet on a team that is indeed much stronger overall even though on the other hand it is not my favorite team, but it doesn't matter because it's like you said that we risk our money and the money is the result of our hard work, therefore I think it is the right choice to take the option that is really more likely and has a greater chance in terms of multiplying, This is where we have to be really wise in making decisions, it is not a problem to occasionally rule out or become a traitor to your favorite team by choosing the opposing team to bet on because what we see here is the opportunity to win for our own interests, but I will not be too pushy for anyone to follow this way because everyone has their own choices.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: shivansps on February 04, 2024, 09:16:51 PM
When I saw a survey indicating that the majority of voters chose the player that only a handful of experts expect to win over the player that has proven to be more dominant, it blew my mind.

I am talking about the boxing match between former champion and big star Anthony Joshua and mma star Francis Nganou. However, I remember not long ago I refused to place a wager on Real Madrid because I desired Girona to win La Liga. In addition, wagering against the Los Angeles Lakers when matched with the best NBA teams is difficult for me.

I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?

Good question. Here we are talking about what outweighs the love for the team or the player or the money. Regarding the fight between Joshua and Ngannou, I can say that Joshua has more chances and the bookmakers give a big odds on Ngannou for a reason. I'll explain why. In Ngannou’s first fight according to boxing rules, Fury had problems because it is very difficult to prepare for an opponent who has not had a single fight according to boxing rules and is not known how Ngannou boxes. His fighting style is now clear and Joshua will be able to prepare for it. I think Joshua has a better chance in this fight
To answer your question, no matter how much I like Francis, I wouldn’t bet on him, despite the high odds.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: usekevin on February 04, 2024, 09:20:31 PM
Many people question this, I think it's quite simple and there may be two choices that gamblers can take if their favorite team is faced with an opponent that is stronger overall and proven by its track record. If I were you or I mean if I were in a situation like that then obviously I would prefer to bet on a team that is indeed much stronger overall even though on the other hand it is not my favorite team, but it doesn't matter because it's like you said that we risk our money and the money is the result of our hard work, therefore I think it is the right choice to take the option that is really more likely and has a greater chance in terms of multiplying, This is where we have to be really wise in making decisions, it is not a problem to occasionally rule out or become a traitor to your favorite team by choosing the opposing team to bet on because what we see here is the opportunity to win for our own interests, but I will not be too pushy for anyone to follow this way because everyone has their own choices.

The gambler who can track the record can make the big money in the gambling site,because making money in the gambling site was not the easiest one.The gambler should suppose to bet on the strongest team to make the money by betting.The gambler always start to betting by the mind of making money from the gambling site.But the set of gamblers will support their own team and star irrespective of their winning.

Because their opinion towards their own team was more compared to the opponent team in the gambling site.So they prepared to betting on the favour of their star,this was the common one among the gamblers in the gambling site.Some gamblers will betting both on their favourite and opponent team based on the game day to make money.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: Dewi Aries on February 05, 2024, 12:44:21 PM
Many people question this, I think it's quite simple and there may be two choices that gamblers can take if their favorite team is faced with an opponent that is stronger overall and proven by its track record. If I were you or I mean if I were in a situation like that then obviously I would prefer to bet on a team that is indeed much stronger overall even though on the other hand it is not my favorite team, but it doesn't matter because it's like you said that we risk our money and the money is the result of our hard work, therefore I think it is the right choice to take the option that is really more likely and has a greater chance in terms of multiplying, This is where we have to be really wise in making decisions, it is not a problem to occasionally rule out or become a traitor to your favorite team by choosing the opposing team to bet on because what we see here is the opportunity to win for our own interests, but I will not be too pushy for anyone to follow this way because everyone has their own choices.

The gambler who can track the record can make the big money in the gambling site,because making money in the gambling site was not the easiest one.The gambler should suppose to bet on the strongest team to make the money by betting.The gambler always start to betting by the mind of making money from the gambling site.But the set of gamblers will support their own team and star irrespective of their winning.

Because their opinion towards their own team was more compared to the opponent team in the gambling site.So they prepared to betting on the favour of their star,this was the common one among the gamblers in the gambling site.Some gamblers will betting both on their favourite and opponent team based on the game day to make money.

On the other hand I can't be sure that they can actually produce wins in every bet, but what I mean is that when you bet on the stronger team overall based on your experience and understanding of the world of sports then it will be more "possible" for you to end the session with a win, because on the other hand after all this is gambling where the possibility of risk cannot always be avoided in every betting session we do, but in this way then you will be closer to the possibility of winning.

But I think this method will not be used by those who are really true fans, even though their favorite team is weaker on the other hand I am sure that most likely they will still choose their team without seeing any benefits, and if the scenario is like this then I think it's better for you to just support them, or that means supporting your favorite team without involving any bets, because with this then most likely you will not lose money if your favorite team is faced with a much stronger team.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: borovichok on February 05, 2024, 01:31:47 PM
Many people question this, I think it's quite simple and there may be two choices that gamblers can take if their favorite team is faced with an opponent that is stronger overall and proven by its track record. If I were you or I mean if I were in a situation like that then obviously I would prefer to bet on a team that is indeed much stronger overall even though on the other hand it is not my favorite team, but it doesn't matter because it's like you said that we risk our money and the money is the result of our hard work, therefore I think it is the right choice to take the option that is really more likely and has a greater chance in terms of multiplying, This is where we have to be really wise in making decisions, it is not a problem to occasionally rule out or become a traitor to your favorite team by choosing the opposing team to bet on because what we see here is the opportunity to win for our own interests, but I will not be too pushy for anyone to follow this way because everyone has their own choices.


Making money shouldn`t come in the way of passion. For sports bettors, there are so many games you can bet on and save yourself from emotional distress because when you bet against your team, it doesn`t make your team lose so why put yourself in a position where you will not be happy when your team is winning? Yesterday, Arsenal played against Liverpool and my friend who is an Arsenal fan gave Liverpool the win because Gabriel Jesus will not play since he was injured, Liverpool is on a good run and topping the league so they will do every to maintain the gap. I am also an Arsenal fan but I avoided placing a bet on the match because I want to sip my drink and enjoy the game.

I can say that yesterday wasn`t his best day. Arsenal scored he was angry even as an Arsenal fan. I was jubilating which is usually what I do whenever Arsenal scores but then he was frowning when he was supposed to be happy. When Liverpool scored he touched me and said," I told you Arsenal can`t win the game", I said let's watch. The game ended 3-1 in favour of Arsenal and he was mad because he lost his bet.

So, why would a true fan want to put himself in such a situation where good becomes bad and bad becomes good? Even though most gambler is concerned about the money, you should know when not to trick your emotions. It is difficult for a gambler who gambles for fun to stake against his team. Most of them, either bet on their team or prefer not betting instead of betting against their team. This should be emulated except you are not a football fan.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: Yatsan on February 05, 2024, 01:45:05 PM
Many people question this, I think it's quite simple and there may be two choices that gamblers can take if their favorite team is faced with an opponent that is stronger overall and proven by its track record. If I were you or I mean if I were in a situation like that then obviously I would prefer to bet on a team that is indeed much stronger overall even though on the other hand it is not my favorite team, but it doesn't matter because it's like you said that we risk our money and the money is the result of our hard work, therefore I think it is the right choice to take the option that is really more likely and has a greater chance in terms of multiplying, This is where we have to be really wise in making decisions, it is not a problem to occasionally rule out or become a traitor to your favorite team by choosing the opposing team to bet on because what we see here is the opportunity to win for our own interests, but I will not be too pushy for anyone to follow this way because everyone has their own choices.

The gambler who can track the record can make the big money in the gambling site,because making money in the gambling site was not the easiest one.The gambler should suppose to bet on the strongest team to make the money by betting.The gambler always start to betting by the mind of making money from the gambling site.But the set of gamblers will support their own team and star irrespective of their winning.

Because their opinion towards their own team was more compared to the opponent team in the gambling site.So they prepared to betting on the favour of their star,this was the common one among the gamblers in the gambling site.Some gamblers will betting both on their favourite and opponent team based on the game day to make money.
Believing on your favorite team is a 'Fan thing' to do no matter how huge odds are or how big the mismatch is, that supports the idea that they are your favorite team, so it is whether they lose or win in their game. However if you will be a gambler then it would make sense betting on the opposite team in my opinion simply because money is being concerned in that aspect and no one will question your admiration to your team in such way, it is more of being practical and logical. I think a gambler could not be both a fan and  bettor because there will be times you will choose the edge of winning over your biases in particular with players or teams. Doing both such as pushing your bet with your team, even if disadvantage is obvious, will more likely just result to a loss. One reason here is still seeing the disadvantage despite of your innate bias with the team you look forward with. If it is just a fair game then you won't view the match in such way, right?


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: danherbias07 on February 05, 2024, 01:46:02 PM
When I saw a survey indicating that the majority of voters chose the player that only a handful of experts expect to win over the player that has proven to be more dominant, it blew my mind.

I am talking about the boxing match between former champion and big star Anthony Joshua and mma star Francis Nganou. However, I remember not long ago I refused to place a wager on Real Madrid because I desired Girona to win La Liga. In addition, wagering against the Los Angeles Lakers when matched with the best NBA teams is difficult for me.

I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?

Good question. Here we are talking about what outweighs the love for the team or the player or the money. Regarding the fight between Joshua and Ngannou, I can say that Joshua has more chances and the bookmakers give a big odds on Ngannou for a reason. I'll explain why. In Ngannou’s first fight according to boxing rules, Fury had problems because it is very difficult to prepare for an opponent who has not had a single fight according to boxing rules and is not known how Ngannou boxes. His fighting style is now clear and Joshua will be able to prepare for it. I think Joshua has a better chance in this fight
To answer your question, no matter how much I like Francis, I wouldn’t bet on him, despite the high odds.
The same for me. I didn't bet for Ngannou on that boxing fight because let's face it, they won't let a real boxer be defeated by a first-time boxer even if it's just an entertainment match. I mean, that would still smear his record and I bet many boxing fans would not forget that and use that many times while commentating.

It's really to bet against a fighter or a team that you are a fan of. Just a while back, I was actually trying to analyze a game for my favorite team and their opponent as an underdog. I am a big fan of the favorite team but I am having doubts if they will cover the spread or not. So, I ended up just betting for their money line, and guess what, they won but if I took that spread it would not be covered. So, it's a good ending for me. I won my bet and I didn't stop supporting my favorite team.
This kind of decision will be more difficult in other sports where they don't offer big spreads or if we pick a money line we will be forced to profit less just to keep out love for the team intact.
Sometimes it's just better to just let the day pass and don't bet. Enjoy the game but don't regret it if you made a wrong decision of not supporting your team in the betting lines.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: justdimin on February 05, 2024, 06:02:42 PM
I recently watched a video by a blogger, where he explained his rules of sports betting. It’s funny that the first point in his video was this rule: “Never bet on your favorite team.” And in fact, this rule has a deep meaning. When we bet on our favorite team, we are likely to be biased. We want to believe that our favorite team will win and we can ignore any rational arguments.
      It is much more logical to bet on the opponent of your favorite team to win. In this case, as the previous user correctly noted, we will either win the bet or enjoy the game of our favorites. That is, it turns out that we will win in any case.
Well, if only what we want is to have fun, why not? Multiplying our staked money, is only just a bonus here. There are still occasions that our favourite team are much stronger than their opponents. Of course, we cannot say this if we are not familiar to the both of them.

However, there might still be a small chance that our team will lose, for some reasons. But again, it does not really matter if our aim is not to earn a profit. Those who have a different playstyle, do also have their own favourite teams but they are not sticking on it if they think their opponents has the advantage. So that blogger that you saw, should not worry about them.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: Davidvictorson on February 05, 2024, 06:56:02 PM
I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?
I have placed bets against everyone including my favourite. When I do the math and the conclude my team and everyone's favourite has a high probability of losing, well I follow the numbers with emotions, empathy or sympathy.

My bothers will never try this. Betting against their teams or players is not possible. Despite their them losing their bets several times, What they have resorted to doing now is that they do not bet on the game that their favourites or teams will play. They feel it is being disloyal to the person, or team. What can I say, they made their choices and I made mine.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: Lorence.xD on February 05, 2024, 07:01:05 PM
Many people question this, I think it's quite simple and there may be two choices that gamblers can take if their favorite team is faced with an opponent that is stronger overall and proven by its track record. If I were you or I mean if I were in a situation like that then obviously I would prefer to bet on a team that is indeed much stronger overall even though on the other hand it is not my favorite team, but it doesn't matter because it's like you said that we risk our money and the money is the result of our hard work, therefore I think it is the right choice to take the option that is really more likely and has a greater chance in terms of multiplying, This is where we have to be really wise in making decisions, it is not a problem to occasionally rule out or become a traitor to your favorite team by choosing the opposing team to bet on because what we see here is the opportunity to win for our own interests, but I will not be too pushy for anyone to follow this way because everyone has their own choices.

The gambler who can track the record can make the big money in the gambling site,because making money in the gambling site was not the easiest one.The gambler should suppose to bet on the strongest team to make the money by betting.The gambler always start to betting by the mind of making money from the gambling site.But the set of gamblers will support their own team and star irrespective of their winning.

Because their opinion towards their own team was more compared to the opponent team in the gambling site.So they prepared to betting on the favour of their star,this was the common one among the gamblers in the gambling site.Some gamblers will betting both on their favourite and opponent team based on the game day to make money.
Believing on your favorite team is a 'Fan thing' to do no matter how huge odds are or how big the mismatch is, that supports the idea that they are your favorite team, so it is whether they lose or win in their game. However if you will be a gambler then it would make sense betting on the opposite team in my opinion simply because money is being concerned in that aspect and no one will question your admiration to your team in such way, it is more of being practical and logical. I think a gambler could not be both a fan and  bettor because there will be times you will choose the edge of winning over your biases in particular with players or teams. Doing both such as pushing your bet with your team, even if disadvantage is obvious, will more likely just result to a loss. One reason here is still seeing the disadvantage despite of your innate bias with the team you look forward with. If it is just a fair game then you won't view the match in such way, right?
Has a point but believe it or not, some gamblers would risk everything for their favorite team or player and nothing's wrong with it as well. We just all have the freedom on how will we view a match up and bet on it. For people who bet on their favorite despite of odd difference or matchup disadvantage, it is not about winning alone but being  fan also. What separates things is the word "favorite" which is in general and having no boundaries on win-loss record or future statistical performance; they will be staying on that team because they are believers of those teams or players.

But if you are a gambler who is into profit over admiration, then that's just okay also. We are the ones to pick our own poison. In the middle of confusion and lack of assurance on which team you would bet then it is fine as well to just watch and avoid betting. Maybe it is the mindset we should be changing when we are gambling and not the idea of picking the right bet. We always have the option to skip and wait for things where we would be comfortable betting our money with.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: bitvalak on February 05, 2024, 07:38:11 PM
Shouldn't it be easier to analyze your favorite team to bet on than to bet on what you know nothing about. But sometimes it will be biased because emotional factors influence it.
It's different when you don't bet on your favorite team, you won't use emotional factors to choose. Of course it won't be as detailed as choosing your favorite team.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: JoyMarsha on February 05, 2024, 08:07:46 PM
I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?
Everyone's intention in gambling is either to have some fun or have some winnings, irrespective of the team they are a fan of or not, or all they care about is being satisfied with their betting games. They don't mind betting against the club they are a fan of, if they notice that the team they support would lose.

As for me, I don't attach my emotions to gambling whenever I am betting on any particular sport. What I am after is my satisfaction as a gambler, not to feel sorry when betting against a team that I am once in support with


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: Doan9269 on February 05, 2024, 08:15:19 PM
I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?

Can you actually know the percentage, even if you create a poll here I don't think it can be accurate because obviously not all gamblers will show interest, everyone gambles and much of us care less about the feelings of others, we most times concentrate on what we want to see in the bet we are playing, be it if we are a fan of a club or a player on a team, everything still work under a team work because a single player can't make the pitch, they all complement each other, so if am gambling, I considers the players, team, and the opponents including the key star player on the team all together.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: wiss19 on February 06, 2024, 02:44:07 PM
Always play it strategically when your favourite team, player, or club is playing against a team that you know is more dominant. What you should do is place your wager on the opponent, but you should morally be supporting your favourite. The advantage of doing so is that even when your team is losing, you will know that you will at least win the bet that you've made on the opponent, and if your team manages to beat the opponent, you won't worry much about the money because at least your team has won the game.

Using this way, you can have a safe bet while also showing moral support towards your favourite team. This is only for those who know they can't stop supporting their favourite but also can't resist making bets. If you can, you shouldn't place a bet on this game and just support your team, that's it.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: Synchronice on February 12, 2024, 01:22:47 PM
When I saw a survey indicating that the majority of voters chose the player that only a handful of experts expect to win over the player that has proven to be more dominant, it blew my mind.
Many people hesitate to invest in Bitcoin because so-called economic experts like JP Morgan CEO, tell them that Bitcoin is bad and dangerous, so, I don't find it strange that people follow experts when making bet instead of following their own logic.

Always play it strategically when your favourite team, player, or club is playing against a team that you know is more dominant. What you should do is place your wager on the opponent, but you should morally be supporting your favourite. The advantage of doing so is that even when your team is losing, you will know that you will at least win the bet that you've made on the opponent, and if your team manages to beat the opponent, you won't worry much about the money because at least your team has won the game.
Argentina vs France 2022 came up to my mind right now. Many people made a bet on France because it's overall a very good team but 90% of them were supporting to Argentina because they wanted Messi to finally win the World Cup. By the way, it's very hard to bet on opposite team and support your favorite team because either way, you'll experience financial or emotional damage.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: dezoel on February 14, 2024, 03:39:10 PM
When I saw a survey indicating that the majority of voters chose the player that only a handful of experts expect to win over the player that has proven to be more dominant, it blew my mind.
Many people hesitate to invest in Bitcoin because so-called economic experts like JP Morgan CEO, tell them that Bitcoin is bad and dangerous, so, I don't find it strange that people follow experts when making bet instead of following their own logic.
I think that's not the main point of the OP but it's about choosing the less favoured teams, and @OP, some of these teams can still be our favourites and we still can end up choosing them which is great even if we lose because at least our loyalty for them is still there. As for Bitcoin, the coin won't be as big as today if what you are saying is true.

It's one of the proofs that experts are not always experts or right about their claims, so we should not be afraid to follow our selves. I won't say if what our heart or instincts are saying because that could be lacking of technical and fundamental analysis but we still can get lucky with our decisions sometimes.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: SeaCoinCollector. on February 16, 2024, 06:20:01 AM
It's common to have fan bias in gambling, and I admit, I also mostly bet on my favorite players, club, or teams. But I have noticed and learned that it's very important to recognize or do some data and analysis rather than base on my emotional attachment to the player, clubs, or teams. It's good to make objective decisions to gain more profitable betting outcomes.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: Fatunad on February 16, 2024, 07:06:12 AM
I want to find out if there are individuals like me. What percentage of the gamblers in Bitcointalk are wagering and not wagering to their dearest star player, club and team?

Can you actually know the percentage, even if you create a poll here I don't think it can be accurate because obviously not all gamblers will show interest, everyone gambles and much of us care less about the feelings of others, we most times concentrate on what we want to see in the bet we are playing, be it if we are a fan of a club or a player on a team, everything still work under a team work because a single player can't make the pitch, they all complement each other, so if am gambling, I considers the players, team, and the opponents including the key star player on the team all together.
It should really be all connected and its true that not only one would really be functioning then it would really be that just that right that you do have those kind of considerations and not really just that looking on one player but its true that having its appearance or having that playing time would really be giving out that boost but since we are talking about a team based kind of sports then everyone would really be having that specific
role on which it would really be that significant that you would really be having those considerations then it would really be your choice on this one.

Its true that we do have our own standpoint when it comes to things on which its true that even setting up a poll wont really be giving out that precise thing about
those certain information and preference on what bettors do really look upon on the time that they would really be tending to make those bets.
So it would really be that depending on viewpoint.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: Oasisman on February 16, 2024, 07:46:53 AM
I recently watched a video by a blogger, where he explained his rules of sports betting. It’s funny that the first point in his video was this rule: “Never bet on your favorite team.” And in fact, this rule has a deep meaning. When we bet on our favorite team, we are likely to be biased. We want to believe that our favorite team will win and we can ignore any rational arguments.
      It is much more logical to bet on the opponent of your favorite team to win. In this case, as the previous user correctly noted, we will either win the bet or enjoy the game of our favorites. That is, it turns out that we will win in any case.

uhm we could actually place a bet to our favorite teams and that purely depends on what percentage could bet their chances to win against their current opponent. But most importantly we need to read the odds if our favorite team can achieve the kind of bet against that opponent. Nevertheless, we should not be biased in betting with our favorite team, other wise it would incur us a lot of losses, most especially if it happens that our favorite team is not a powerhouse team, good examples are the current Lakers and GSW teams in the NBA. I know a lot of NBA fans who likes either of this teams.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: maydna on February 16, 2024, 04:14:05 PM
Always play it strategically when your favourite team, player, or club is playing against a team that you know is more dominant. What you should do is place your wager on the opponent, but you should morally be supporting your favourite. The advantage of doing so is that even when your team is losing, you will know that you will at least win the bet that you've made on the opponent, and if your team manages to beat the opponent, you won't worry much about the money because at least your team has won the game.

Using this way, you can have a safe bet while also showing moral support towards your favourite team. This is only for those who know they can't stop supporting their favourite but also can't resist making bets. If you can, you shouldn't place a bet on this game and just support your team, that's it.
Not placing a bet on that game will support our favorite team because it is a way to make you feel uncomfortable if you place a bet on the opposing team. You can also not watch the match if you are uncomfortable seeing your favorite team not having a good performance in the match so that you won't look disappointed with their performance. However, our favorite team will continue to play with a good performance to show they will never give up easily.

But some people continue to place bets on the opposing team and choose not to watch the match this time because they can't bear to see their favorite team not having a big chance of winning. They want to place bets and enjoy the betting.


Title: Re: Viewpoint of a fan gambling
Post by: spiker777 on February 16, 2024, 04:46:41 PM
It's common to have fan bias in gambling, and I admit, I also mostly bet on my favorite players, club, or teams. But I have noticed and learned that it's very important to recognize or do some data and analysis rather than base on my emotional attachment to the player, clubs, or teams. It's good to make objective decisions to gain more profitable betting outcomes.
That's a good point. I also believe that a person should either place no bet when their favorite team, player, or club is playing if they know the opponent is stronger, or they should get a grip on their emotions and place the bet on the side that they know is stronger even though the opponent of the team they have placed their bet on is their favorite.
When you do this, you will win even if you lose because if your favorite team wins, that is still a happy moment for you. After all, your favorites have won the game, and if your favorite side loses the game, you won't be as sad as you would be because you have won your bet which means you have got monetary gains if you didn't get emotionally victorious.