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Title: 🏀 ⛹🏾 🚀 Winning.pub 'AI Black Box' picks
Post by: Winning.Pub on February 03, 2024, 10:27:43 PM
Hi there,

Our 'AI Black Box' is entering the BETA phase, so we're sharing all our picks.

Our goal is to offer odds of over 2.00 in reputable bookies, with a current focus on the NBA.

We're using human picks from our tipsters, which then go through our 'AI Black Box' for confirmation.

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We'll be adding an FAQ and more information shortly.

All picks will be posted in unedited posts to ensure they are genuine and posted before the start of the events.

Good luck!


Title: Re: ⚽️🔥 🚀 Winning.pub 'AI Black Box' picks
Post by: Winning.Pub on February 03, 2024, 10:30:43 PM
Reserved


Title: Re: ⚽️🔥 🚀 Winning.pub 'AI Black Box' picks
Post by: Winning.Pub on February 03, 2024, 10:34:00 PM
First pick for tonight:

Philadelphia 76ers vs Brooklyn Nets

Brooklyn Nets total over 116.5

Best odds: 2.05 at Wolf.bet (https://wolf.bet/sportsbook/sports/basketball/usa/nba/match_5536184) & BetFury (https://betfury.io/sports/basketball/usa/nba/philadelphia-76ers-brooklyn-nets-2365274410312671262)


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More games in about ~30 minutes - to re-check analysis.


Title: Re: ⚽️🔥 🚀 Winning.pub 'AI Black Box' picks
Post by: Winning.Pub on February 03, 2024, 10:44:47 PM
Rest of the games for tonight, ordered by starting time:

Atlanta Hawks - Golden State Warriors
Over 246 O/U (FT) @ 2.11 at Stake.com (https://stake.com/sports/basketball/usa/nba/44147520-atlanta-hawks-golden-state-warriors)

Chicago Bulls - Sacramento Kings
Chicago Bulls -3 AH @ 2.15 at Wolf.bet (https://wolf.bet/sportsbook/sports/basketball/usa/nba/match_5536194)

Dallas Mavericks - Milwaukee Bucks
Milwaukee Bucks -8 @ 2.21 at Stake.com (https://stake.com/sports/basketball/usa/nba/44147524-dallas-mavericks-milwaukee-bucks)


 


Title: Re: ⚽️🔥 🚀 Winning.pub 'AI Black Box' picks
Post by: Winning.Pub on February 04, 2024, 01:19:43 PM
First pick for tonight:

Philadelphia 76ers vs Brooklyn Nets

Brooklyn Nets total over 116.5

Best odds: 2.05 at Wolf.bet (https://wolf.bet/sportsbook/sports/basketball/usa/nba/match_5536184) & BetFury (https://betfury.io/sports/basketball/usa/nba/philadelphia-76ers-brooklyn-nets-2365274410312671262)



Rest of the games for tonight, ordered by starting time:

Atlanta Hawks - Golden State Warriors
Over 246 O/U (FT) @ 2.11 at Stake.com (https://stake.com/sports/basketball/usa/nba/44147520-atlanta-hawks-golden-state-warriors)

Close call, the OT save it :D


Chicago Bulls - Sacramento Kings
Chicago Bulls -3 AH @ 2.15 at Wolf.bet (https://wolf.bet/sportsbook/sports/basketball/usa/nba/match_5536194)

What a flop from Bulls...


Dallas Mavericks - Milwaukee Bucks
Milwaukee Bucks -8 @ 2.21 at Stake.com (https://stake.com/sports/basketball/usa/nba/44147524-dallas-mavericks-milwaukee-bucks)

:D I wrote off this one after the disastrous Q1, but Bucks proved themselves :D

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Tonight's games - later.


Title: Re: 🏀 ⛹🏾 🚀 Winning.pub 'AI Black Box' picks
Post by: Winning.Pub on February 04, 2024, 05:24:39 PM
Just two games at this point:


Miami Heat - Los Angeles Clippers Clippers
Los Angeles Clippers Clippers -6 AH @ 2.20 at Wolf.bet (https://wolf.bet/sportsbook/sports/basketball/usa/nba/match_5536187)


Oklahoma City Thunder - Toronto Raptors
Toronto Raptors +7.5 AH @ 2.04 at Stake.com (https://stake.com/sports/basketball/usa/nba/44147532-oklahoma-city-thunder-toronto-raptors)

Good luck! :)


Title: Re: 🏀 ⛹🏾 🚀 Winning.pub 'AI Black Box' picks
Post by: AbuBhakar on February 04, 2024, 05:29:26 PM
You can use the reserve post on the first reply of this thread to summarize your bets outcome. You include stats such as winning percentage and total bet counts somthat viewers can easily catchup to your progress.

I’ve been following you since your first prediction and I’m still waiting for more tipster result before I will start trusting your predictions. Your tips is not that bad either so you already got my interest on following your prediction.

Can you share more how this “AI Black Box” work? How can it verify a tipster bet as potential win result in able to approve it?


Title: Re: 🏀 ⛹🏾 🚀 Winning.pub 'AI Black Box' picks
Post by: Winning.Pub on February 05, 2024, 02:27:07 PM
Just two games at this point:


Miami Heat - Los Angeles Clippers Clippers
Los Angeles Clippers Clippers -6 AH @ 2.20 at Wolf.bet (https://wolf.bet/sportsbook/sports/basketball/usa/nba/match_5536187)


Oklahoma City Thunder - Toronto Raptors
Toronto Raptors +7.5 AH @ 2.04 at Stake.com (https://stake.com/sports/basketball/usa/nba/44147532-oklahoma-city-thunder-toronto-raptors)


Raptors... OT and half a point...  :o

Still on the plus side because of the high odds :D


You can use the reserve post on the first reply of this thread to summarize your bets outcome. You include stats such as winning percentage and total bet counts somthat viewers can easily catchup to your progress.

I’ve been following you since your first prediction and I’m still waiting for more tipster result before I will start trusting your predictions. Your tips is not that bad either so you already got my interest on following your prediction.

Can you share more how this “AI Black Box” work? How can it verify a tipster bet as potential win result in able to approve it?

Thanks, will update with stats, FAQ, etc.

The 'AI Black Box' is fed will all the latest social posts around every team, news, etc. and and confirming or opposing our picks.
For example, yesterday selected 6 games, but left with only two.

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More games - tonight :)



Title: Re: 🏀 ⛹🏾 🚀 Winning.pub 'AI Black Box' picks
Post by: bittraffic on February 05, 2024, 02:50:45 PM

There was a thread about AI being used for sports betting, it has already become a reality in a short period.

How do we check that 'AI Black Box', we know it's on BETA yet but it looks to be working that you are deploying it so is it available for public use?
Choosing the best odds is cool. I'm gonna test your picks to see if it works.  Is the AI project affiliated with any bookies?


Title: Re: 🏀 ⛹🏾 🚀 Winning.pub 'AI Black Box' picks
Post by: AbuBhakar on February 05, 2024, 04:43:35 PM
Just two games at this point:


Miami Heat - Los Angeles Clippers Clippers
Los Angeles Clippers Clippers -6 AH @ 2.20 at Wolf.bet (https://wolf.bet/sportsbook/sports/basketball/usa/nba/match_5536187)


Oklahoma City Thunder - Toronto Raptors
Toronto Raptors +7.5 AH @ 2.04 at Stake.com (https://stake.com/sports/basketball/usa/nba/44147532-oklahoma-city-thunder-toronto-raptors)


Raptors... OT and half a point...  :o

Still on the plus side because of the high odds :D

I watch this game due to your pick. I never thought that Raptors can give a hard time on OKC that result to double overtime. I was supposed to place a bet on your pick but I’m discouraged since I knew OKC is very strong now while Raptors is just meh. Seriously your pick is awesome even though Raptors can’t cover the spread by just 1 point.




-Snip-

Thanks, will update with stats, FAQ, etc.

The 'AI Black Box' is fed will all the latest social posts around every team, news, etc. and and confirming or opposing our picks.
For example, yesterday selected 6 games, but left with only two.

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More games - tonight :)



Thanks for the explanation. I finally have a grasp on how you come up on this pick. Waiting for tonights pick. I will try to parlay it with minimal bet.


Title: Re: 🏀 ⛹🏾 🚀 Winning.pub 'AI Black Box' picks
Post by: Winning.Pub on February 05, 2024, 05:22:17 PM

Thank you for the kind words :)

Re the AI (and to @bittraffic) - a year ago, ChatGPT 3.5 was something revolutionary.

Now... LLMs with the same capabilities are just a commodity (and even open-source). Just check https://huggingface.co/models

The biggest winners will not be those who wrap LLMs, but the company with proprietary data. (The big boys again).

The next best thing is to manage public data in a way to 'gain' some edge.

In our closed Alpha, we got a ~54.3% win rate over more than 200 games with odds greater than 2.xx, which is... not bad at all :D

While 200 games are not definitive proof that the 'AI Black Box' is giving a real edge, it's a good start :D


Title: Re: 🏀 ⛹🏾 🚀 Winning.pub 'AI Black Box' picks
Post by: Winning.Pub on February 05, 2024, 11:08:38 PM
Again, two games:


Philadelphia 76ers - Dallas Mavericks
Dallas Mavericks -4 AH @ 2.20 at BetFury.io (https://betfury.io/sports/basketball/usa/nba/philadelphia-76ers-dallas-mavericks-2365976266441625633)


New Orleans Pelicans - Toronto Raptors
New Orleans Pelicans -12 AH @ 2.14 at BetFury.io (https://betfury.io/sports/basketball/usa/nba/new-orleans-pelicans-toronto-raptors-2366005681229795335)

Our expectations are Raptors to be slow today after yesterday's marathon.


Good luck! :)


Title: Re: 🏀 ⛹🏾 🚀 Winning.pub 'AI Black Box' picks
Post by: Winning.Pub on February 08, 2024, 12:28:37 AM

Brooklyn Nets - Dallas Mavericks
Dallas Mavericks -5 AH @ 2.05 at Wolf.bet (https://wolf.bet?c=winningpub3)


Phoenix Suns - Milwaukee Bucks
Milwaukee Bucks +2 AH @ 2.1 at Stake.com (https://stake.com/?c=pX2bUQ2H) &  Wolf.bet (https://wolf.bet?c=winningpub3)


Graded last night games.

No games for tonight.


Title: Re: 🏀 ⛹🏾 🚀 Winning.pub 'AI Black Box' picks
Post by: Winning.Pub on February 08, 2024, 11:12:21 PM
Two games for tonight:


Memphis Grizzlies - Chicago Bulls
Chicago Bulls -9 AH  @ 2.38 at BetFury.io (https://betfury.io/sports/basketball/usa/nba/memphis-grizzlies-chicago-bulls-2367139912450445354)


Milwaukee Bucks - Minnesota Timberwolves
Milwaukee Bucks -3 AH @ 2.24 at BetFury.io (https://betfury.io/sports/basketball/usa/nba/milwaukee-bucks-minnesota-timberwolves-2367125111343026202)

Good luck! :)


Title: Re: 🏀 ⛹🏾 🚀 Winning.pub 'AI Black Box' picks
Post by: Winning.Pub on February 09, 2024, 01:24:04 PM

Memphis Grizzlies - Chicago Bulls
Chicago Bulls -9 AH  @ 2.38 at BetFury.io (https://betfury.io/sports/basketball/usa/nba/memphis-grizzlies-chicago-bulls-2367139912450445354)


Milwaukee Bucks - Minnesota Timberwolves
Milwaukee Bucks -3 AH @ 2.24 at BetFury.io (https://betfury.io/sports/basketball/usa/nba/milwaukee-bucks-minnesota-timberwolves-2367125111343026202)


Bulls were so close to cover the handicap.. there are days and days when you are chasing big odds  ::)


Title: Re: 🏀 ⛹🏾 🚀 Winning.pub 'AI Black Box' picks
Post by: AbuBhakar on February 09, 2024, 02:30:32 PM
Again, two games:


Philadelphia 76ers - Dallas Mavericks
Dallas Mavericks -4 AH @ 2.20 at BetFury.io (https://betfury.io/sports/basketball/usa/nba/philadelphia-76ers-dallas-mavericks-2365976266441625633)


New Orleans Pelicans - Toronto Raptors
New Orleans Pelicans -12 AH @ 2.14 at BetFury.io (https://betfury.io/sports/basketball/usa/nba/new-orleans-pelicans-toronto-raptors-2366005681229795335)

Our expectations are Raptors to be slow today after yesterday's marathon.


Good luck! :)


I manage to place a bet on this and won both picks. I notice that the recent pick is not performing well probably due to a much riskier pick due to high odds. I was offline in past few days that makes me lucky to dodge the bullet here.

I’m expecting to have more quality picks for tomorrow. I hope you will stick to your style on choosing a closer to 2.0 odds pick.  ;)


Title: Re: 🏀 ⛹🏾 🚀 Winning.pub 'AI Black Box' picks
Post by: Winning.Pub on February 09, 2024, 03:30:57 PM
Again, two games:


Philadelphia 76ers - Dallas Mavericks
Dallas Mavericks -4 AH @ 2.20 at BetFury.io (https://betfury.io/sports/basketball/usa/nba/philadelphia-76ers-dallas-mavericks-2365976266441625633)


New Orleans Pelicans - Toronto Raptors
New Orleans Pelicans -12 AH @ 2.14 at BetFury.io (https://betfury.io/sports/basketball/usa/nba/new-orleans-pelicans-toronto-raptors-2366005681229795335)

Our expectations are Raptors to be slow today after yesterday's marathon.


Good luck! :)


I manage to place a bet on this and won both picks. I notice that the recent pick is not performing well probably due to a much riskier pick due to high odds. I was offline in past few days that makes me lucky to dodge the bullet here.

I’m expecting to have more quality picks for tomorrow. I hope you will stick to your style on choosing a closer to 2.0 odds pick.  ;)

Good for you! :)

It's unrealistic to expect every pick to win. Even at 53-55% win rate it's a small gold mine on these odds.

Will continue with the 2+ odds :D


Title: Re: 🏀 ⛹🏾 🚀 Winning.pub 'AI Black Box' picks
Post by: Winning.Pub on February 12, 2024, 11:05:21 PM
Tonight's games:

Atlanta Hawks - Chicago Bulls
Atlanta Hawks -6 AH @ 2.29 at BetFury (https://betfury.io/sports/basketball/usa/nba/atlanta-hawks-chicago-bulls-2368533751924924428)


Milwaukee Bucks - Denver Nuggets
Denver Nuggets - 4 AH @ 2.32 at BetFury.io (https://betfury.io/sports/basketball/usa/nba/milwaukee-bucks-denver-nuggets-2368556400004698120)



Houston Rockets - New York Knicks
Over 225 AH @ 2.23 at BetFury.io (https://betfury.io/sports/basketball/usa/nba/houston-rockets-new-york-knicks-2368550129671213073)



Utah Jazz - Golden State Warriors
Golden State Warriors -4 AH @ 2.32 at BetFury.io (https://betfury.io/sports/basketball/usa/nba/utah-jazz-golden-state-warriors-2368542553374076937)


Good luck! :)




Title: Re: 🏀 ⛹🏾 🚀 Winning.pub 'AI Black Box' picks
Post by: AbuBhakar on February 17, 2024, 03:09:41 PM

Utah Jazz - Golden State Warriors
Golden State Warriors -4 AH @ 2.32 at BetFury.io (https://betfury.io/sports/basketball/usa/nba/utah-jazz-golden-state-warriors-2368542553374076937)


This is the only pick that won out of 4 pick that you made. It’s starting to become less efficient now. I just hope that you will still come back for more tipster as this 2.0+ odds is indeed great once you get the sweet spot on picks.

I just notice the inactivity right after the result of this pick. Just continue this thread instead of creating new thread with different brand if ever the reason of being inactive is the efficiency. Hoping you are well.


Title: Re: 🏀 ⛹🏾 🚀 Winning.pub 'AI Black Box' picks
Post by: acroman08 on February 17, 2024, 03:27:39 PM
just curious, does your AI have the most recent information on all teams to make any kind of estimation on who will win?

anyway, all in all I think the thread is interesting(what I mean is using AI for betting) if you don't mind, would it be fine if you record the win/lose rate of the picks the AI makes?


Title: Re: 🏀 ⛹🏾 🚀 Winning.pub 'AI Black Box' picks
Post by: seoincorporation on February 17, 2024, 04:23:50 PM
just curious, does your AI have the most recent information on all teams to make any kind of estimation on who will win?

That's a good question because we all know chatGPT doesn't have updated information, but maybe OP is using other Artificial Intelligence, if I'm not wrong the one from X(twitter) is updated with current data.

But in the end, sports are hard to predict, anything can happen, and even the worst underdog can win, so, using an AI for the pics isn't enough warranty for winning in the long run.


Title: Re: 🏀 ⛹🏾 🚀 Winning.pub 'AI Black Box' picks
Post by: alani123 on February 17, 2024, 11:34:48 PM

Utah Jazz - Golden State Warriors
Golden State Warriors -4 AH @ 2.32 at BetFury.io (https://betfury.io/sports/basketball/usa/nba/utah-jazz-golden-state-warriors-2368542553374076937)


This is the only pick that won out of 4 pick that you made. It’s starting to become less efficient now. I just hope that you will still come back for more tipster as this 2.0+ odds is indeed great once you get the sweet spot on picks.

I just notice the inactivity right after the result of this pick. Just continue this thread instead of creating new thread with different brand if ever the reason of being inactive is the efficiency. Hoping you are well.
Honestly a 25% success rate is less effective than even just picking at random. Why would they come back?
This doesn't seem like an experienced tipster or any form of intelligence such as AI in that matter. Probably OP was trying his luck to see what sticks but now they're gone for almost a week, so probably they won't be making a comeback.

Could OP have been too unlucky to actually lose 3/4 bets at their debut? Maybe. Shit happens. But it's probably just a fake it till you make it attempt that went wrong.


Title: Re: 🏀 ⛹🏾 🚀 Winning.pub 'AI Black Box' picks
Post by: AbuBhakar on February 18, 2024, 10:36:24 AM

Utah Jazz - Golden State Warriors
Golden State Warriors -4 AH @ 2.32 at BetFury.io (https://betfury.io/sports/basketball/usa/nba/utah-jazz-golden-state-warriors-2368542553374076937)


This is the only pick that won out of 4 pick that you made. It’s starting to become less efficient now. I just hope that you will still come back for more tipster as this 2.0+ odds is indeed great once you get the sweet spot on picks.

I just notice the inactivity right after the result of this pick. Just continue this thread instead of creating new thread with different brand if ever the reason of being inactive is the efficiency. Hoping you are well.
Honestly a 25% success rate is less effective than even just picking at random. Why would they come back?
This doesn't seem like an experienced tipster or any form of intelligence such as AI in that matter. Probably OP was trying his luck to see what sticks but now they're gone for almost a week, so probably they won't be making a comeback.

Could OP have been too unlucky to actually lose 3/4 bets at their debut? Maybe. Shit happens. But it's probably just a fake it till you make it attempt that went wrong.

He has a good winning percentage on his earlier tipster that I follow. I made a comment on his last tipster poor performance but that doesn’t mean his overall performance is already bad because he still few bets made.

He can still recover his winning percentage ratio with a few successful calls. Besides having a win on a 2.0+ odds is not an easy feat to do. There’s always a time for a losing streak on every tipster. What matters is the recovery and consistency in the end. He is not active anymore but he might come back if find that his thread gain interest already.


Title: Re: 🏀 ⛹🏾 🚀 Winning.pub 'AI Black Box' picks
Post by: Winning.Pub on February 26, 2024, 02:24:21 PM
Sorry about the delay.

Seems COVID is still a thing...

Will restart soon, probably at the site.

It's pointless to continue here as few of my posts (posting games) were deleted by a moderator:

"A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator."

This is breaking the integrity of having unedited posts for proof of concept.



Title: Re: 🏀 ⛹🏾 🚀 Winning.pub 'AI Black Box' picks
Post by: Winning.Pub on February 26, 2024, 02:28:06 PM
just curious, does your AI have the most recent information on all teams to make any kind of estimation on who will win?

That's a good question because we all know chatGPT doesn't have updated information, but maybe OP is using other Artificial Intelligence, if I'm not wrong the one from X(twitter) is updated with current data.

But in the end, sports are hard to predict, anything can happen, and even the worst underdog can win, so, using an AI for the pics isn't enough warranty for winning in the long run.

You could feed ChatGPT with 'custom information' though the API - as new as you want and as whatever data you want. Then you could address your 'custom' model.

In our case, we are using local LLaMA 2 - it's keeping the stuff private, uncensored, etc.


Title: Re: 🏀 ⛹🏾 🚀 Winning.pub 'AI Black Box' picks
Post by: Coin_trader on February 26, 2024, 02:51:13 PM

It's pointless to continue here as few of my posts (posting games) were deleted by a moderator:

"A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator."

This is breaking the integrity of having unedited posts for proof of concept.



As per checking, You have a total of 3 post deleted by the mods while 1 of them handled improperly while the 2 post is proper. That 1 post is probably just mix with the 2 proper handled post. Someone reported your post to moderator that’s why it was deleted or else your post will be compressed now if the mods visit your thread personally.

You should familiarize the forum rules on this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0 since you are already violating the forum rules by posting consecutively on your thread.


13. Bumps, "updates" are limited to once per 24 hours per thread. Bumping multiple threads at the same time is allowed if it's not annoying. [2][e]

You should use “quote” button to reply all the post on your thread with a single post not in multiple post. You are only allowed to reply multiple times on your thread if there’s someone post another inquiry right after you made your post so that it will not be considered as bumping your thread.


Title: Re: 🏀 ⛹🏾 🚀 Winning.pub 'AI Black Box' picks
Post by: Winning.Pub on February 26, 2024, 03:17:19 PM

Two of the three deleted posts were with NEW games (tips) posted.

The third one was not bump either - it was quoting results from previous night and notifying there will be no games for the particular night.

Doesn't matter, I will not argue more - it's pointless to post more here even if a single post with tips is deleted, as it's breaking the point of integrity to have unedited posts. Not angry or whatever - just stating what is the situation.


Title: Re: 🏀 ⛹🏾 🚀 Winning.pub 'AI Black Box' picks
Post by: morvillz7z on February 26, 2024, 03:33:11 PM
Two of the three deleted posts were with NEW games (tips) posted.

The third one was not bump either - it was quoting results from previous night and notifying there will be no games for the particular night.

Doesn't matter, I will not argue more - it's pointless to post more here even if a single post with tips is deleted, as it's breaking the point of integrity to have unedited posts. Not angry or whatever - just stating what is the situation.

Several of your posts had ref links to stake and wolfbet. Don't spam ref links in the future (or break any other forum rule), and your posts will not be deleted, simple as that.