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Was reading a gambling related article just this morning and it was talking on random issues cut across gambling responsibly, many of which I agree with.

However, there were two terms that were made mentioned of which stole my interest unfortunately they weren't explained but only mentioned. I could have just checked them on Google but I felt reluctant and said let me bring it to the community let make it a discussion among us. The two terms were Problem Gambling and Compulsive Gambling. I want to know if they are different in meaning and how different is their effect on their victims.

And moreso, there's a statement I read in the comment section which is in the quote below. I would love to have the views of slot lovers in the forum on this. How true is this statement.

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All slot players are long term losers.

Quote from: Lida93 on February 08, 2024, 08:22:39 AM

Problem gambling and compulsive gambling are the same thing and in reality is the same as gambling addiction. When you feel the urge to gamble always and you cannot help it, it becomes addiction if you actually yield and gamble after all.

Anyone gambling should endeavor to watch it when his drive for gambling gets to this level because it is actually the beginning of the end of such person if decisive steps are not taken to curb such uncontrollable desires.

If you are always thinking about gambling and also looking for money to always gamble. If you are doing that and gambling is taking your time than necessary as it should be for fun, then it is a problem gambling. You want to gamble all the time and you will lose because that is a sign of gambling addiction.

Problem gambling is when you are gambling and not able to control your urge for gambling but continue to gamble. That is an addiction itself, while compulsive gambling will lead to addiction.

Which means compulsive gambling will lead to problem gambling which is gambling addiction. In fact, we can say both compulsive gambling and problem gambling mean the same thing.

Quote from: Oshosondy on February 08, 2024, 08:31:46 AM

if I understand you well from what you have explained it shows that the two are the same in nature in terms of being an addictive gambler but even as that one has to lead to another. For if you are not heading towards compulsive gambling attitude you won't be suffering form problem gambling. Right? Leaning on this, I think problem gambling could be regarded as the highest stage of gambling addiction which every gambler should by all means necessary afford getting to that extreme.

Quote from: Lida93 on February 08, 2024, 08:22:39 AM

The two terms were Problem Gambling and Compulsive Gambling. I want to know if they are different in meaning and how different is their effect on their victims.

Lol, this kind of looks vague to me. Although we know that anything that is a problem is not good at all, which makes me think that a "problem gambler" or "problem gambling" is either when the gambler is practicing harmful gambling habits that could be detrimental to their well-being or the well-being of other people living around them or their family,

Let's take, for example, a man who lost his bet and was very angry because he had lost a huge amount of money that he had staked. When he got home and was confronted by his wife, his anger pushed him to hit her, causing him to commit domestic violence. In such a scenario, I would say that gambling has caused him a problem that has led to domestic violence.

Taking another example, let's imagine that someone gambles with a large sum of money that doesn't belong to him, and he ends up losing the money on the bet. After he loses the bets, he immediately has a heart attack and is rushed to the hospital. At that point, gambling had caused him a different problem.

In conclusion, I think that compulsive gambling is the bad gambling habit that most gamblers usually possess, while problem gambling is the consequence of the gambler's bad gambling habit. Take the examples I gave above into account.

Another thing I would love to say is that a compulsive gambler will definitely have "problem gambling" the same as a non-compulsive gambler.

If someone is not a compulsive gambler and perhaps they did not have proper discipline for their gambling decisions at all times, they can equally have "problem gambling," which will definitely land them in regret.

Was the article in English, or was it in your local language? To me, what you described sounds a little vague and got me wondering if it was a translation issue. Compulsive gambling is itself a problematic behavior, which translates into not being able to control your impulses to gamble. Problem gambling, by definition, according to Wikipedia, is "repetitive gambling behavior despite harm and negative consequences." which, to me, means almost the exact same thing as compulsive; it features the exact behavior that makes gambling awful, repetitive, and not taking into account what harm you might be causing. Thus, it's nothing you're not familiar with; you know what consequences such a behavior has; it's not necessary to repeat what has been mentioned multiple times.

Quote from: Lida93 on February 08, 2024, 08:22:39 AM

However, there were two terms that were made mentioned of which stole my interest unfortunately they weren't explained but only mentioned. I could have just checked them on Google but I felt reluctant and said let me bring it to the community let make it a discussion among us. The two terms were Problem Gambling and Compulsive Gambling. I want to know if they are different in meaning and how different is their effect on their victims.

There is no difference between both. They are all in a state chronic mental disorders of gambling. and this set of people can do anything to make sure the satisfy there instincts in making sure they play certain matches without even thinking of there welfare. As a matter of fact, they prefare gambling more than any other thing and always a public disgrace to their family and friends and often take loan and sell property or self belonging to play gamble. They are always in every casino hall and they always ague alot. And doesn't seem to be tired. alway relentless in the wrong way.

Quote from: Lida93 on February 08, 2024, 08:22:39 AM

And moreso, there's a statement I read in the comment section which is in the quote below. I would love to have the views of slot lovers in the forum on this. How true is this statement.
All slot players are long term losers.

What I really understand by that statement is that, for someone to be sticked to playing slot for a long time, is as a result of frequent playing of gamble with the notion of hitting the jackpot someday. And that will tactically keep and enslave them to there fallacious mind. And they might still not be lucky. they becomes a regular customer. Sometimes they even give them a name like Mr Slot.

Actually, what some friends say here is true, there is no difference between the two because if you look at it, the meaning is the same as encouraging someone to become uncontrolled to continue gambling and that usually causes problems in gambling as well as problems in gambling, while the words you quoted may be true because of gambling. slots will make players losers in the end if they cannot control them properly, let alone play irresponsibly and uncontrolled.

All types of games in gambling will ultimately make many gamblers losers in the long run and it depends on how a person manages his emotions and also controls himself so as not to become a reckless gambler in gambling. The point is that any gambling problem that will harm your life should not be If you ever let it continue to surround you, you have to get out of that pressure and encouragement because if you continue to let it continue it will make you addicted to gambling and ultimately make you continue to be a loser in the long run like the words you quoted above.

Regarding the slots first, I may have to agree with what he said. We are all losers in the long run. Actually, it's not just slots, in every casino game like dice, Plinko, Keno, or whatever there is that is being controlled by the gambling sites system, we are losers in the long run too.
The only escape to this is if we can get out once we hit the multiplier that we want. Withdraw. That's the best option but sadly whenever we deposit again, it will still try to get back all those initial winnings.

Now to problem gambling and compulsive gambling.
Problem gambling's definition is already how it says. If you gamble and it becomes a problem as you gamble then there it is. IMO, there's little control here and regrets do linger. Also, it means you are not having fun anymore. It is the start of an addiction.
Compulsive gambling is where you won't be able to control the urge anymore. They could be gambling addicts. It means they will do what they can to gamble. Worse, they are even planning it already while they are not yet in the casino or in front of their computer. They dream about gambling. It became their life. It's difficult for them to resist once they see a slot machine or they can access the internet even if they are on vacation.

For me, problem gambling and compulsive gambling are almost the same thing; they only differ in the way a gambler could lose all he has. Problem gambling is a type of gambling wherein the gambler keeps on gambling because he or she is problematic and gambling becomes his or her escape and to divert his or her attention, but as long as you are being swallowed by problematic gambling, you are also sinking yourself into suffering. Meanwhile, compulsive gambling makes the gambler keep on gambling whenever and wherever he wants to; in short, he can't control himself to gamble and will not be satisfied until he does so. He will keep on gambling even though he knows what his current situation is. Although both gambling types are different, they have one thing in common: they make the gambler more miserable and desperate to win, and if that continues, the result will not be good.

Quote from: Lida93 on February 08, 2024, 08:22:39 AM

Was reading a gambling related article just this morning and it was talking on random issues cut across gambling responsibly, many of which I agree with.

You should have shared that article so we could also read it for a healthier discussion and we can explore the subject that you want to disscuss.

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However, there were two terms that were made mentioned of which stole my interest unfortunately they weren't explained but only mentioned. I could have just checked them on Google but I felt reluctant and said let me bring it to the community let make it a discussion among us. The two terms were Problem Gambling and Compulsive Gambling. I want to know if they are different in meaning and how different is their effect on their victims.

Based on my experience and what I believe in, there's no difference on the meaning of both words and their essence if you are a compulsive gambler then you have a gambling problem these two are interconnected you cannot be a compulsive gambler and do not have problem in your gambling activity.

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And moreso, there's a statement I read in the comment section which is in the quote below. I would love to have the views of slot lovers in the forum on this. How true is this statement.

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All slot players are long term losers.

I seldom play slot but this applies to all games of chance, whether it is a dice, mine or Plinko the house edge will beat you so don't ever treat these luck based games as a source of income

Quote from: OgNasty on February 08, 2024, 08:40:32 AM

I will admit I don’t know what I’m talking about but when I think ‘problem’ gambling I think of someone who gambles money they don’t have and get their life into trouble with the results. Whereas compulsive gambling is like the guy at a party that’s just chilling until someone mentions gambling and then that’s all they can do the rest of the day.

I would say problem gambling and compulsive gambling are nearest in meaning but differs in some ways.
Let me use this little illustration to describe both, problem gambling can be when one is addicted to gambling but have a difficulty or find it hard in meeting up to their gambling game.its like the challenges a gambler face in the gambling world,tho he mind tend to take up some actions to meet up his game like you said.

But a Compulsive gambling is just like as a gambler,once your in,your in you can't withdraw.you Will have to keep up to your daily task in staking, gambling,making predictions and so on .it's just like is mandatory for you to keep it going and that's it

Quote from: Lida93 on February 08, 2024, 08:22:39 AM

I think there's no much difference between both of them as they all talk about gambling addiction within people. Compulsive gambling majorly refers to habitual method of wanting to gamble at every moment even when ordinarily you don't have the resource to, you might go beyond any means just to make sure that you Gamble. Same thing with Problem gambling, which is more of chronic psychological effects on the individual who always wants to gamble not mind the negative toll it has him or her.

Compulsive gambling refers to a person's habit of gambling. Meanwhile, problem gambling refers to the consequences caused by gambling without self-control, resulting in serious problems for someone. It has happened to many people that they have both compulsive gambling and problem gambling at the same time but they don't realize it. Those who can see this are other people who have observed what they are doing because when someone has gambled excessively and cannot control himself when gambling, it means he has started to experience problematic gambling. Meanwhile, he has also been gambling too often, which means he has experienced compulsive gambling. Maybe I'm wrong, so forgive me.

Quote from: Lida93 on February 08, 2024, 08:22:39 AM

The two terms were Problem Gambling and Compulsive Gambling. I want to know if they are different in meaning and how different is their effect on their victims.

And moreso, there's a statement I read in the comment section which is in the quote below. I would love to have the views of slot lovers in the forum on this. How true is this statement.

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All slot players are long term losers.

I don't see any difference at all if you're a compulsive gambler you have an impulse or uncontrollable urge to gamble and that can be considered a problem in your gambling activity, you cannot have safe behavior if you have an uncontrollable impulse to gamble this is where you lose yourself, your money and your family relationship, so compulsive gambling is a problem gambling.
And about slot being a long-term loser, there is truth in that saying, because even if you win a huge amount of money you will keep on playing and will eventually lose the money that you have won, it's hard to control your addiction to slot especially if you won a big amount of money.

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How's problem gambling different from compulsive gambling.

My understanding is that those who gamble are said to be 'Problem Gambling' gamblers, none other than:
Have no control when gambling, they often place big bets without considering the risks that will occur, and other problem gamblers are those who like to borrow illegally to gamble, lying to our family about our gambling activities and many other things that impact Problem Gambling.

If I don't misunderstand it and if I value compulsive gambling almost the same as Problem Gambling, it's just the inability to resist and encourage or control to gamble, they remain in their stance to carry out gambling activities.

Quote from: aioc on February 08, 2024, 02:03:20 PM

Yep, if someone is really want to know the sign of gambling addiction and know to distinguish between gambling addict with a normal gambler, it's better to seek a help because you're self diagnosing if you're a gambling addict or want to avoid to be called as a gambling addict.

There's no shame for asking a help by professional.

Quote from: Lida93 on February 08, 2024, 08:22:39 AM

The two terms were Problem Gambling and Compulsive Gambling. I want to know if they are different in meaning and how different is their effect on their victims.

In theory, I don't know what the difference is between the two terms, but I am sure that both constitute irresponsible gambling and turn someone into a gambling addict.

Quote from: Lida93 on February 08, 2024, 08:22:39 AM

And moreso, there's a statement I read in the comment section which is in the quote below. I would love to have the views of slot lovers in the forum on this. How true is this statement.

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All slot players are long term losers.

I totally agree with that. Until now I have really avoided slot machines, maybe I play them occasionally but it could be said to be very rare. In my area many young people play slots and most of them experience big losses, on that basis I avoid slot machines and choose to play table games for fun. For me, slot machines are one of the games that have the biggest influence on gambling addiction

I am actually confused on the headline as I believe that there is no difference between problem gambling and compulsive gambling as they are both problems to begin with.

When we mean by compulsive gambling, this means that the person has difficulty in controlling his temptations with the urges of him/her to gamble. It also means that the person will most likely give in if ever they are presented with the opportunity and temptation to gambling regardless if it is convenient or not.

In the above-mentioned phrase, compulsive gambling necessarily absorbs problem gambling as the former is a problem in itself. I do also think that we do not have to prolong the discussion on what their similarities/differences are but they are both problems in the gambling space that must be addressed.

They are different words but they are one with one word which is "problem".. Yes, this type of gambling is a problem if we are on the situation, when you are a compulsive gambling it's the same as you are addicted in gambling, and I haven't heard a testimony from someone who were addicted with gambling being proud and shared a success story. Most of the success story are from being a compulsive gambler to getting out of gambling, so it short it's a problem.

We should not be in the situation where we experience this, as might not be worst to some but on some gamblers this resulted to huge problem like losing their job, even their home and worse destroying the family they build.

In my opinion there is no significant difference between problem gambling and compulsive gambling because in the end the meaning of these two terms leads to the same result (bad), we can see the number of addicted gamblers is increasing but those who can recover are very few because this is a disease that exists in the human mind that makes them unable or difficult to get rid of their bad habits which in turn causes many problems in their lives. so I think this is just a difference in terms and the point leads to the same impact in gambling. Therefore we always recommend to gamble reasonably or that means gambling without putting any expectations such as winning because with this it is very likely that in the end you are trapped in a cycle of chasing victory to restore something that has been lost and when you are in such a situation then this is what is called problem gambling which causes many problems that are detrimental to gamblers from various sides.

Quote from: Lida93 on February 08, 2024, 08:22:39 AM

Compulsive gambling as I understand it simply means the act of gambling way too much, that is, as a gambler, you just can't bring yourself to stop gambling, even after winning a huge amount of money which is when most gamblers pulse their gambling activity to reflect on that win, and think of what good to use that money for, a compulsive gambler will still continue to gamble and possibly end up losing all that money.

And for a problem gambler, this is not very far from compulsive gambling, but they are still different if we give a critical look at the two, problem gamblers are those who are actually addicted to gambling, they can steal for the sake of gambling, and sometimes, they find it hard to accept that the lost on a game, which makes them sometimes accuse the casino of cheating on them, meanwhile, they are the ones trying to cheat the casino.

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And moreso, there's a statement I read in the comment section which is in the quote below. I would love to have the views of slot lovers in the forum on this. How true is this statement.

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All slot players are long term losers.

The statement is correct, slot players are long term losers in the sense that, if you start playing a slot game today, and luckily you win a huge amount of money, if you do not do anything good with that money and just keep playing slot game with it, you will end up losing it all back to the casino, and it does matter how big the money is, if you do not invest any part of the money in something that is bringing you guaranteed profits, you will lose all the money back to the casino in the short or long term.

Quote from: Lida93 on February 08, 2024, 08:22:39 AM

reading a gambling related article just this morning and it

However, there were two terms that were made mentioned of which stole my interest unfortunately they weren't explained but only mentioned. I could have just checked them on Google but I felt reluctant and said let me bring it to the community let make it a discussion among us. The two terms were Problem Gambling and Compulsive Gambling. I want to know if they are different in meaning and how different is their effect on their victims.

If you cannot stop yourself from gambling and you always think of gambling that's compulsive gambling and if you are a compulsive gambler then you have a problem with gambling they have the same meanings compulsive gambling is gambling problem and problem gambling is a compulsive gambler, they go together and they are always mentioned when an individual is addicted to gambling, these are the terms used by experts and professionals when they are dealing with people who spend so much money and time to gambling.

Quote from: Lida93 on February 08, 2024, 08:22:39 AM

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All slot players are long term losers.

That last statement is not always true although it is true for 99.99% of the players.The rest,0.01% are the ones who have hit a huge multimillion dollar and whichever amount you have lost before it doesn't matter as long as you have not lost millions of dollars,rarely some people may have lost millions of dollar playing slot machines and those who have done so have done it through lots of years.So this statement is true for a huge majority but there is a great expection for the minority of 0.01%.

Quote from: Lida93 on February 08, 2024, 08:22:39 AM

However, there were two terms that were made mentioned of which stole my interest unfortunately they weren't explained but only mentioned. I could have just checked them on Google but I felt reluctant and said let me bring it to the community let make it a discussion among us. The two terms were Problem Gambling and Compulsive Gambling. I want to know if they are different in meaning and how different is their effect on their victims.

would you mind sharing the article?

regarding Problem Gambling and Compulsive Gambling, from my perspective, while both of these are gambling disorders, (at least for me) Problem Gambling is a mild case of it and Compulsive Gambling much worse, I mean, the person is at the edge a full-blown gambling addiction(just a clarification, this is just how to interpret problem gambling and compulsive gambling and I might be completely wrong on what I just said.)

Quote from: Lida93 on February 08, 2024, 08:22:39 AM

And moreso, there's a statement I read in the comment section which is in the quote below. I would love to have the views of slot lovers in the forum on this. How true is this statement.

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All slot players are long term losers.

pretty sure there will be people who will say they are not but the majority of them probably are and are just afraid to admit it or just don't know that they are in a loss of profit.

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And moreso, there's a statement I read in the comment section which is in the quote below. I would love to have the views of slot lovers in the forum on this. How true is this statement.

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All slot players are long term losers.

All long-term slot players are problem gamblers who have compulsive gambling disorder - this is all I understand what OP wanted to say. Maybe because if you play slot, you will keep on pulling the lever and although you spend a small amount, when consolidated the value will amount to a large sum yet no wins still.

So many gambling addicts started with slots as it's the most addictive game in the casino. Even women with no history of gambling in the family can be hooked to slot. Slots that are found in gasoline stations are even straying people from where they are supposed to be going.

Quote from: Lida93 on February 08, 2024, 08:22:39 AM

However, there were two terms that were made mentioned of which stole my interest unfortunately they weren't explained but only mentioned. I could have just checked them on Google but I felt reluctant and said let me bring it to the community let make it a discussion among us. The two terms were Problem Gambling and Compulsive Gambling. I want to know if they are different in meaning and how different is their effect on their victims.

I think they're the same thing but being used in different situations when talking about gambling addiction. Compulsive gambling means you can't resist the urge to gamble whenever it comes. It means you don't have control over gambling. You can do it anytime even when you're down to your last cash. You can also borrow or take a loan to gamble all due to you aren't able to resist the urge of gambling. Gambling problems is a general name for all gambling problems that are gotten from addiction.

When you're addicted to gambling, you'll have many different gambling problems, you can also have other problems that aren't associated with gambling due to being broke from having financial problems. Some individual have one while other individuals that have become very addicted to gambling has many gambling addiction problems. Addiction or gambling problems or compulsive gambling are the same.

Quote from: Crypt0Gore on February 08, 2024, 01:33:25 PM

Problem gambling and compulsive gambling have one thing in common, that's addiction, try hard to differentiate the two it still ends with gambling addiction.

The more time you spend in gambling the faster you become addicted, when gambling becomes the first thing stealing your attention everyday you are slowly becoming addicted.

Too much of everything is not healthy, it becomes addiction and the fun that a nor mal gambler should get will be lost since you want to win, it's your main goal, spare money is the best when it comes to gambling, it's not worth 10% of your income.

I also believe that problem and compulsive gambling lead to the same thing, addiction problems are very common if the game begins to be seen as a problem, when the word problem appears it is because things are not right and if they are not right then Things should stop there, if we insist that things can turn out for the better but having a number of problems and if it has to do with the casino or where I play, then even more so, because I know that there is something that is not in harmony and that there is no It can be done, these are the things that we should always consider, for me, the deaths that are done like this should not be done like that just to do them, I am a person who will always take into consideration what to choose, in this case I would always do what I Outside of having the best possible way to avoid it, compulsive gambling makes me even afraid, because that means that there is no longer any control.

We as people must know the dangers of these things and we must stay away from all these things as much as possible.

I don't think there is an exact definition of both concepts, as they are used in different contexts by different people who have some minor different views on what each of them mean, although they are pretty similar in every cases.

As I see, problem gambler represents a wider category, while compulsive gambling might be one element inserted inside that category called problem gambler. That is, compulsiveness is one characteristic of problem gamblers, although there are many others which may be spotted as well in a determined problem gambler, like aggressivity, anxiety, low self-esteem, greed, depression.

Does this definition makes sense for you?

Quote from: Lida93 on February 08, 2024, 08:22:39 AM

However, there were two terms that were made mentioned of which stole my interest unfortunately they weren't explained but only mentioned. I could have just checked them on Google but I felt reluctant and said let me bring it to the community let make it a discussion among us. The two terms were Problem Gambling and Compulsive Gambling. I want to know if they are different in meaning and how different is their effect on their victims.

It all depends on the interpretation given here in the two context, problem gambling could be any challenges or difficulties encountered as a result of being a gambler and the gambler faces each time they are into the atmosphere of gambling, this can come in any form, be it financial, emotional or even the difficulties experienced at the cause of gambling.

Quote from: Lida93 on February 08, 2024, 08:22:39 AM

And moreso, there's a statement I read in the comment section which is in the quote below. I would love to have the views of slot lovers in the forum on this. How true is this statement.

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All slot players are long term losers.

May he would have said this that all gamblers are long time losers because if we look into how we have been gambling over the years, we should be able to come out with either running losses from the way we gamble or huge disappointments at the cause, while this is not about the slot alone, but general way we gamble.

Quote from: uneng on February 08, 2024, 04:33:26 PM

If we should brief it and make it short, what we can qualify both as gambling addiction. If someone have problem gambling or you are a compulsive gambler, definitely that means the person is a gambling addict. Although they are not exactly the same both they both resulted to gambling addiction as problem gambling is gambling addiction itself and that can make us say that they are both the same thing which is gambling addiction. If someone is gambling always and the person will surely continue to gamble and gamble with high amount of money and lose and always lose in a way that he has no two problem than gambling addiction problem.

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All slot players are long term losers.

Totally related i should say or even lets say it is just that the same when it comes in overall idea. If we do speak about compulsive then it would really be an urge for you to play and this is something
a huge problem when you do apply it on gambling on which it would really be resulting into problem gambling on the time that you do things excessively or something that do talks
about having no control on which this would really be resulting into those negative stuffs and this is why its really just that connected to each other. Speaking about those lines about slot
players are long term losers? I should say it would be a short one. Yes, there are ones who do able to make some nasty hits but majority of those players are on the losing side.
it is really just that what makes them continue to play despite of the issue is that they do have the urge on trying out to win the jackpot.

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Quote from: uneng on February 08, 2024, 04:33:26 PM

Whether it is a problem gambling or compulsive gambling the two can always lead to addiction. We should understand some of the requirements that would aid everyone of us that are gamblers to stay less often to gambling activities. Problem gambling is already a causative and if care is not taken, this might lead to bigger problem and every individuals will have no option than to look for a better way to make sure everything is eradicated. We need to know is necessary and how this problem gambling can be resolved without causing a bigger problem to us. Addiction could always be the result of the two.

I think those two are intertwined but those affected more by compulsive thinking will have feelings and thoughts that for some reason they absolutely have to gamble. Maybe their luck will turn, maybe they're addicted to the act of seeing cards or levers pulled, maybe they fall into gambler's fallacy... Really there are so many things.

Problem gamblers aren't always addicted or compulsive but might be depressed or in some way mentally ill. Because the problematic behaviors aren't just limited to having intrusive thoughts. It's also an issue for example to be spending too much time gambling. Or the other aspect is just wrecking your life in general, in relation to gambling. Mostly money issues.

Quote from: alani123 on February 08, 2024, 08:47:20 PM

as we put it this way, there may be differences on how we distinguish these two but there will be intersections on these two terms in gambling. and it boils down to the fact that both need containment of what they are going in gambling to possibly stop worst case scenarios brought by this habit.

however, problem gambling is more on the harm experienced by the gambler or others rather than the behaviour of the gambler himself. and of course, compulsive gambling is the behaviour itself of the gambler towards gambling. and with these scenarios, somehow, they cross each other if not contained.

This is an indicator that is interconnected with each other, because a compulsive behavior can push someone into error when gambling. And one of the triggers for someone to behave compulsively when gambling is because they have poor emotional control. and if someone continues to let this happen periodically, it is not impossible that later he will be in complicated problems and enter the gloomy valley that exists in gambling, namely gambling addiction.

And the way to prevent this behavior from occurring is to always impose limits on the deposit amount and playing time. When gambling, of course, sometimes our emotions can fluctuate, which can cause our gambling to become uncontrolled and make mistakes in making betting decisions, until in the end we decide on an irrational betting decision that can only lead us to a loss. Therefore, in order for our gambling to remain under control, it is very important to always obey the rules and limits that we have previously created.

Quote from: Lida93 on February 08, 2024, 08:22:39 AM

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All slot players are long term losers.

Problem gambling is basically umbrella term for several issues. Not all people who have problem gambling are addicts. Problem gambling can happen because of many reason, pathological reasons, mpulse-control disorder or because of obsessive–compulsive disorder, so when we are talking about compulsive gambling, it's the concept of under problem gambling, but it's also more specific reason for it.

And what do you mean by long term losers? Why are you focusing on just slots on that? Doesn't the house edge apply to anything else then slots?

Quote from: Lida93 on February 08, 2024, 08:22:39 AM

Problem Gambling and Compulsive Gambling. I want to know if they are different in meaning and how different is their effect on their victims.

I think the two terms are very close but do not mean an exact same thing, although many gamblers may not really know or agree that there is a slight difference between the two.
A gambler on the road to chronic addiction will first become a compulsive gambler before they become problem gamblers because after loosing control to gambling, their compulsive nature to gamble will then start to cause them problems. A compulsive gambler may not always be facing problems first when they become compulsive, but the effects with the problems will come later.

Quote from: Ruttoshi on February 08, 2024, 01:07:10 PM

Compulsive gambling leads to problem gambling, when the gambler fails to come out from his addiction. This is because when you are a compulsive gambler and can gamble for long giving more time and your funds to gambling. You will end up losing all that you have.

This will now lead that gambler to start looking for where to take a loan, or sell his family properties, and even stealing to gamble forgetting the consequences because he can no longer control himself. Problem gambling is worse compared to compulsive gambling.

I know that before now many people have gone to research and I believe that the gambling effects is when you are addicted in gambling in which you don't have a safe control during when you participate in gambling, in normal circumstances a compulsive gambling is like a kind of gambling in which the gambler is addicted in gambling because its willing to make out anything good from gambling, so that is why people are given a similar definition of gambling, so in a normal circumstances I do understand that gambling is all about risk and the problem of gambling is when you have not understand the total concepts of gambling and it leads you to become addicted.

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Quote from: Ruttoshi on February 08, 2024, 01:07:10 PM

That is a crucial distinction between casual or controlled gambling and compulsive or addictive gambling behavior. When gambling behavior escalates to the point of addiction, it becomes a serious problem with far-reaching consequences. Compulsive gambling, characterized by the inability to control gambling impulses despite negative consequences, can lead to financial ruin, strained relationships, and other adverse effects on one's well-being.

Understanding the nature of gambling, including its inherent risks and the potential for addiction, is essential in mitigating the harm it can cause. Gamblers need to minimize the negative impact of gambling and foster healthier attitudes towards this form of entertainment by responsible gambling behaviors. People need to approach gambling with caution and mindfulness, ensuring that it remains a source of enjoyment rather than a detriment to their life.

I think the terms are interconnected for a gambler. If a gambler engages in compulsive gambling, he is also included in the group of gamblers who engage in problem gambling, where playing excessively and not controlling his mind to stop gambling can cause him to experience problems ranging from small problems such as losing money to big problems where he can experience gambling addiction. This will cause even more problems for him, where when he is already addicted to gambling, he will no longer want to pay attention to the situation around him and only focus on himself and the gambling game. He wants to be able to gamble more often and maybe use more money, and who knows what he wants to achieve or seek from gambling. Perhaps he wants satisfaction in playing gambling, which makes him a gambling addiction that gets worse.

Problem gambling is a continuous problem, whereas compulsive gambling is similar although there are periods wherein you don't think about gambling at all and you continue to do your regular routine. IMO, the former is more destructive than the latter because you will have no time to think about normalcy or other activities apart from gambling. You are getting sucked into a bottomless pit and the only thing that can save you from yourself are professional interventionists that, unfortunately, you will also have to pay to help you out.

Either way, if you are one of the other, you need to seek help and understand that there is something wrong with you and it's not just for fun anymore.

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Gambling disorder, also known as compulsive gambling or compulsive gambling, is an uncontrollable behavior or urge to continue gambling even if it means sacrificing one's life. This behavior has a destructive pattern that is psychologically, financially and socially dangerous.

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In my opinion, this is the same because compulsive gambling is also problematic gambling, indeed compulsive gambling can cause someone to experience various problems such as experiencing disruption to your financial balance because you are too ambitious to win and continue to experience losses, mental disorders because you cannot control yourself and over time you will experience stress, as well as health problems because if you overdo it and don't have time to rest, your immune system will be compromised so you will get sick easily so we should avoid this kind of gambling within ourselves.

Quote from: Lida93 on February 08, 2024, 08:22:39 AM

The two terms were Problem Gambling and Compulsive Gambling. I want to know if they are different in meaning and how different is their effect on their victims.

Maybe it's just a difference in words but it actually refers to the same condition, where it is about someone who is unable to control his gambling, he will always try to gamble whether he has funds or vice versa, so he will try to find ways to gamble. and from the meaning of the word both are equally bad for the gambler who experiences it, because he only thinks about gambling even when he has to do other activities such as work and still think about gambling, so his life becomes very chaotic and slowly he will start to experience difficulties, especially in finances because he doesn't can control his desire to gamble.

Quote from: Lida93 on February 08, 2024, 08:22:39 AM

And moreso, there's a statement I read in the comment section which is in the quote below. I would love to have the views of slot lovers in the forum on this. How true is this statement.

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All slot players are long term losers.

Only true slot players can answer whether it is true that slots players are a long-term losers, but if it is true it never reduces the gambler's intention to gamble on slot games which is why it is one of the most played games

Quote from: o48o on February 08, 2024, 09:37:11 PM

Well, we don't need to sugarcoat words, do we? I think we're playing with words; if someone has gambling issues, then he's likely addicted. Having issues translates to not being able to control your urge to gamble, spending more money or time than you initially intended, becoming obsessed, and generally ignoring any negative consequences. At least to me, that sounds like an addicted person. It's never only the gambling part that's the issue; there are always underlying causes for such behaviors. These two definitions may be slightly different, but the result is usually the same, or quite similar, at least.

Quote from: Lida93 on February 08, 2024, 08:22:39 AM

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All slot players are long term losers.

Well, let me start with Problem gambling and Compulsive gambling. The two are real and you can see them all around you with the way gamblers are losing and having issues associated with them. A good gambling activity is possible depending on how we accept and play it. It has enough problems associated with it as well if care is not taken. But without going deep into this, one can still avoid many of these problems if they are good players, and with managerial skills included in their plays. Also, with compulsive gambling, no one is making anything compulsory in gambling, we can only be compulsive about things at our own discretion. If we are not careful, we can be addicted, and addiction is compulsive in nature because we are already obsessed with it. How is that the fault of gambling as a context, if not our fault?

Lastly, the losing remark on the Slots game is what the author believes, but it could be different with another person. But one thing that is sure is that gambling on Slot games is primarily about luck, and if you are not lucky when you play, you might be a loser at that time. Yet, this doesn't stop others from playing before or after you win their games.

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Quote from: Ruttoshi on February 08, 2024, 01:07:10 PM

Once crossed, it might unravel one's life. From a casual bet to a dogged pursuit of losses, I've seen it. Its important to recognize the shift and actively defend against it, I've learned.

Responsible gaming is literally lifesaving. Set strong financial and other boundaries and follow them like your life depended on it - because it does. Using self-imposed limitations and support mechanisms can make gambling fun.

Gambling is fun, remember. Entertainment may make life more fascinating if done properly. To keep gambling fun and not depressing, I promote responsible and aware gaming.

Gambling problems and compulsive gambling are like steps on a scary staircase. Problem gambler? You start losing balance then. Your betting habits may be stressing you out and draining your cash. Concerning, but there's room to retreat and restore control. Conversely, compulsive gambling is a fall from grace. Need now replaces choice. Life, relationships, and work are being pushed aside by gaming. Like any addiction, it's a monster

Avoid generalizing about slot gamers' quote. Undoubtedly, the odds favor the house. All slot players "long term losers"? That's dismissive and ignores gambling issues. Some play responsibly, recognizing the risks. It's about how you play and why, not winning or losing

Quote from: Lida93 on February 08, 2024, 08:22:39 AM

The two terms were Problem Gambling and Compulsive Gambling. I want to know if they are different in meaning and how different is their effect on their victims.

By the word compulsive means an urge that can’t be stop meaning this are the gamblers that always have an urge to play while problem gamblers are those players that doesn’t have this kind of urge to frequent gamble but always have a problem when doing gambling by either being violent or other things that related to financial outbreak.

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And moreso, there's a statement I read in the comment section which is in the quote below. I would love to have the views of slot lovers in the forum on this. How true is this statement.

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All slot players are long term losers.

Slot games is pure luck with house edge. Not only slot but also other gambling games that is based on luck will ended up a losers in long term.

Is there a difference between the two? both are a bad thing. If you are a problematic gambler, then basically you are distracted of gambling and you're pre-occupied of it. With compulsive gambling, you are not aware that you are gambling "too much". Both things are behaviors you won't wish to have or experience simply because you cannot expect anything less than huge loss. Both are most likely driven by the urge to make profit out of gambling. Quite characterizes frustrations and anxiety from losing multiple times.

You can cite differences when it comes on definition but it will always point out one thing; a situation close to addiction. Imagine not being able to function on a regular basis just because you are feeling that something is missing nd that you have to do it. Upon gambling, given that fact that losing is more common than winning, another problem will be minded by you which is either debt or regrets. Self discipline will always be a must if you value the money you are engaging in this industry.

even though these two things can be said to be problems in gambling, they have fundamental differences. problem gambling is a situation where a gambler has a problem with their gambling, so that sometimes they cannot stop themselves from gambling, but sometimes they can control it, this is not yet an addiction stage.

meanwhile, compulsive gambling is a more complex problem that has an impact on a person's mental state. as the name suggests, there is the word compulsive, which indicates how a gambler really cannot control themselves and their mind is filled with thoughts and cannot be controlled, which causes excessive stress to the gambler. this disorder will cause a person to repeat the same things and it is difficult to control. this has entered the addiction stage and a gambler should be treated by a psychiatrist if they have experienced this.

Quote from: madnessteat on February 09, 2024, 11:12:38 AM

In my opinion, both of these definitions indicate problems with self-control during gambling. It seems to me that the only difference between compulsive gambling and problem gambling is that it is much more difficult for the former to stop gambling, because he/she cannot do it on his/her own and such a person loses self-control not only during the gambling session, but also outside of gambling, which eventually leads to problems in life. Experience with problem gambling does not mean that a person has a gambling addiction - every gambler can face this when he loses a large enough amount of money.

The difference will depend on a view of the gamblers, compulsive gambler might have a problem controlling his emotion while the problem gambler is that, he’s too greedy to gamble and that can also relate to compulsive gambler. I think both are the same its just that, the level of risk they are taking is different, so if you want to be in trouble better to start thinking about how you can gamble responsibly.

Problem gambling refers to any type of gambling that causes problems and negative impacts on an individual's personal life, social and professional relationships. While compulsive gambling describes a type of gambling addiction that requires continuous actions in order to satisfy the desire or need to gamble. Given the characteristics of each of them, problem gambling is usually the result of various reasons such as financial pressures, difficult emotional events, that is, in general, the emotional state of the person, and may appear as reckless behaviors, excessive gambling, and irresponsible gambling behavior with continued gambling until financial failure. On the other hand, the main reason for compulsive gambling is attributed to psychological factors such as compulsive disorder, which is characterized by repetitive and continuous gambling behavior while ignoring negative consequences and an urgent desire to gamble.

Despite these differences, we must note that problem gambling and compulsive gambling are two sides of the same coin, as the danger lies in gambling addiction, whether it is called “problem gambling” or “compulsive gambling.”

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Quote from: madnessteat on February 09, 2024, 11:12:38 AM

But the risk of both is losing money and can result in more and more money. When playing gambling, we have to control the gambling game and not the gambling game controlling us. If not, we will experience problem gambling and also compulsive gambling, and it is not good for the long term if we still want to gamble. However, we must be able to enjoy gambling as entertainment and always control ourselves to avoid increasing emotions or other disturbances. But when he couldn't resist the temptation that came his way, making him gamble longer and even increase the amount of money to bet, it was only a matter of time before he felt like he was losing even more money. So be careful in controlling yourself when gambling.

As far as I know, both terms have a very close correlation, they are not very far from each other, let us say.
To be someone who suffers from problem gambling is unable to make a distinction between their priorities and mostly uses their money to gamble and set bets, they can either be doing so because they wish to recover from losses or wish to make money out of it, which is very unlikely to happen. There can be or not some compulaionnin their actions when they gamble, but the end result is gamble turning into a problem for them and making their life more difficult to face entirely.
On the other hand, someone who suffers from compulsive gambling partake in such activity because their brain has gotten used to the feelings they get when gamble and gambling is all what they can think of during long periods of time, in those cases to them it does not matter whether they are losing or winning money in their session, they will continue to wager money until they completely run out of it, compulsive gambling will always lead to problem gambling.
Though, I have seen articles where the authors use both terms as they meant the same thing, I guess it depends on the literature one is researching and the psychologists one is talking about to.

Quote from: slapper on February 09, 2024, 02:09:55 PM

For me I feel the two are actually the same because it all involves a case scenario where the gambler can't control his/her urge anymore, the two things is about the gambler being addicted so why separate one from the other.

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Avoid generalizing about slot gamers' quote. Undoubtedly, the odds favor the house. All slot players "long term losers"? That's dismissive and ignores gambling issues. Some play responsibly, recognizing the risks. It's about how you play and why, not winning or losing

Well slot is luck based and tell how possible is it that someone can actually make a strategic calculations to actually have a winning edge over the system program to actually make you get it all wrong and I believe if someone says that can really calculate the possible outcome then I would have to say that person is actually lying to himself because at the long run of everything the house always win except you are one lucky bastard that had it big with your winnings (luck).

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Quote from: slapper on February 09, 2024, 02:09:55 PM

Compulsive gambling addiction is a kind of disease that definitely needs to be treated in my opinion. We all gamble at certain times and we all continue to gamble. As long as we don't make it a habit, it's fine. We gamble for fun or to win some money. But compulsive gambling addiction is very different from normal gambling.

Experiencing mental fatigue over gambling. Becoming restless or irritable during attempts to cut down or stop gambling. Getting money for gambling through illegal acts such as fraud, scams, theft, etc. Jeopardizing or losing an important relationship, job, education or professional opportunities because of compulsive gambling addiction. These are all situations that can happen to a compulsive gambler. There is no general treatment for compulsive gambling behavior and treatment needs to be individualized. Because it is difficult to treat a compulsive gambling addict with general treatment rules. They are now a medical case.

Quote from: stadus on February 08, 2024, 02:48:59 PM

Compulsive is when it's frequently occurring and we know that too much is not good anymore. It can cause a problem, so what you said is true that both have the same meaning. Yes, getting out of addiction is a kind of success. They are proud because the journey that they have been through is not easy. Other than getting out of addiction, some gamblers even became a pro and profitable gamblers.

By this, we can say that being addicted is not always or totally a bad thing because it can enhance our ability on that same thing we are doing. It's not always a happy ending though and then it is still possible to be successful even without going through that phase.

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Quote from: stadus on February 08, 2024, 02:48:59 PM

There are dark edges of gambling addiction. Gambling addiction can have serious implications for the gambler and their loved ones. Your description is unfortunately true for many, underlining the need for a serious conversation about gambling addiction.

I still think gambling is entertainment. I enjoy it in moderation as a spice of life. The trick is to promote pleasant gambling, where the stakes are low and the goal is enjoyment, not profit. Setting boundaries and sticking to them prevents gaming excitement from becoming dangerous.

I believe that responsible gambling and open discussion about risks must be promoted. We can keep gambling fun while preventing its harm by doing so. Education and safe gambling might let you enjoy the thrill without becoming addicted.

As everyone has said, there are no differences between these two words, when we say that a person is addicted to gambling, we can also say that this person has problem gambling or we can also say that this person has compulsive gambling. All of these words serve to describe a person addicted to gambling. In my opinion, probably so that the person addicted to gambling does not feel too sad, you can tell them that they have gambling problems, this is a very light word than telling the person that they are addicted to gambling, Doctors usually give a lot of advice to the addict's family to act well towards the addict, so as not to disturb the addict's psychological state, which is why they use many softer words so that the addict doesn't feel too sad.

about slot games and this phrase, in my opinion, this phrase applies to everyone, just games of chance, when a person plays for many years and then stops to look back, they will see that they managed to have a greater number of defeats than victories and also You will see that you had more losses than profits. and this happens to the majority of players and for this reason it has been said that gambling should not be seen as a source of stable income because most of the time we are playing to lose. Gambling should be seen as just fun, nothing more than that. In the case of slots, things get worse for those people who have never managed to at least win a big multiplier

Quote from: Slow death on February 10, 2024, 06:29:01 PM

The gambler who get addicted to gambling should get away from the gambling using some of the steps.Because the gambling addiction was not the good for the gamblers,they do the random betting only with the gambling addiction.The saddest part is the gambler doesn’t feel the addiction to the gambling,only their friends know the addiction and can advices them.

Quote from: Slow death on February 10, 2024, 06:29:01 PM

about slot games and this phrase, in my opinion, this phrase applies to everyone, just games of chance, when a person plays for many years and then stops to look back, they will see that they managed to have a greater number of defeats than victories and also You will see that you had more losses than profits. and this happens to the majority of players and for this reason it has been said that gambling should not be seen as a source of stable income because most of the time we are playing to lose. Gambling should be seen as just fun, nothing more than that. In the case of slots, things get worse for those people who have never managed to at least win a big multiplier

The gambler who had huge addiction to the game will play the game every week or every day based on their addiction to the gambling.So they doesn’t know how much money they had spend in the game.If the game was more addictive in nature.They should do the same game with less money as the capital to loss the less money.

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On the moment that you had reached out yourself to be that an addicted person then this one really indicates that you are really just that putting up yourself into a condition on which
you cant really be able to think up well or you would really be that biased into the thing that you are currently dealing with.This is why it would really be that best that you should really be that
avoiding at all cost in speaking about on getting addicted. Having some time or some occasion on playing gambling isnt bad as long you do have that still control and moderations on the
things that you've been deciding into.On the time that you have seen that it is gradually affect you in financial aspect and other things as well then it wont really be that something
a bad decision on quitting right away.

Quote from: Slow death on February 10, 2024, 06:29:01 PM

The two words may sounds been similar but still have a lot of difference from each other, but when a gambler is turning to be a combination of the two, being a problem and compulsive type of a gambler, then the whole case is beyond control and left on him to know how to fix it up by a suitable approach, i will advise that none of the two is good for a gambler to have, this is a display of nothing than been an irresponsible gambler when a gambler is engulfed with the two on a critical note.

Quote from: wiss19 on February 10, 2024, 12:03:42 PM

Quote from: stadus on February 08, 2024, 02:48:59 PM

Overcoming addiction can be a significant achievement and can lead to personal growth and success. Even some people may find success and become profitable gamblers after overcoming addiction, but this is not the case for everyone. Whether it's to gambling or any other substance or behavior, can have serious consequences on people's physical health, mental well-being, relationships, and financial stability. It's a condition that often requires professional intervention and support to overcome.

Suggesting that addiction can enhance our abilities or lead to success overlooks the detrimental impact it can have on various aspects of life. While some people may find that their experiences with addiction have taught them valuable lessons or strengthened their resolve, this does not negate the harm caused by addiction itself. Success and fulfillment can be achieved through healthy and balanced pursuits, without resorting to addictive behaviors. The goal should be to prevent addiction, rather than glorifying or romanticizing its potential outcomes.

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Quote from: stadus on February 08, 2024, 02:48:59 PM

But you could eventually be trying out to avoid as much as you can when it comes to possible addiction. Dont wait up for things to be ended up on that way since you cant be able to assure that you would be able to make yourself be able to get out or not. Speaking about compulsive gambling and problem gambling then it is really just that connected on which on the time that you do make yourself that
being compulsive then this is where it would be giving out that domino effect on which it would really be that causing that problem in gambling on which this is where
majority would really be that able to experience on which you would really be able to make yourself not to get out easily once you do get attached into it.
This is why we should really be that careful when it comes to this.

Quote from: Lida93 on February 08, 2024, 08:22:39 AM

The two terms were Problem Gambling and Compulsive Gambling. I want to know if they are different in meaning and how different is their effect on their victims.

Based on my research, they aren't much different from each other because compulsive gambling means not being able to control the urge to gamble more even when you know the negative consequences, and problem gambling means not being able to limit your time and money that you spend on your gambling activities. So in general, both are in the same category with just a slight difference in their definition.

Quote from: Lida93 on February 08, 2024, 08:22:39 AM

And moreso, there's a statement I read in the comment section which is in the quote below. I would love to have the views of slot lovers in the forum on this. How true is this statement.

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All slot players are long term losers.

That's a correct statement. Any person who has played slots for quite some time will agree that you tend to lose more money than you might win in a slot machine in the long-term apart from some lucky gamblers that manage to hit high wins or jackpots which is a different thing.

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