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It is a thing that stands out and that I already commented in the thread he opened to ask a stupid question, more typical of someone new to the forum than someone who has been at least 6 years in it.

airfinex is obviously an alt account, which until now had been characterized by playing a role of "vigilante" so to speak in forum issues. Most of his posts were written in Reputation and he was the first to draw attention to Ratimov's plagiarism, for example.

After a small gap of about three weeks, nothing unusual for him, his first post is to apply for a signature campaign and since then all his posts are in soccer threads in the gambling section, apart from the banal thread below:

Which campaign has the most spammers? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5485315.0)

Aside from the stupidity of the OP's question, he commits a gross error by putting WO next to casino names, as if WO were a campaign, and apart from that he does not include in the poll the casinos that all of us who have been on the forum longer know have more spammers.

This is quite striking compared to how intelligent and detailed his posts were prior to this change of pattern (regardless of agreeing or disagreeing with what he advocated).

To me it is very likely that the account has changed hands, as we have seen this story before: a clear pattern change where someone who had never posted in the gambling section starts posting almost exclusively there and also makes stupid statements or questions that do not match his previous history in the forum.

In my case I am going to leave a neutral tag, as I am quite in favor of red tagging the accounts for having changed hands but the evidence is not conclusive.

He can not always get chances to speak for forum issue. His best topic was Ratimov's plagiarism and after that all others were only to create drama in the forum including the latest one. His topics have a style. Speak about a specific event, user or business.

I don't think it's a change hand. The account became a full member so the does not want to miss the opportunity to earn some cash. After all these topics he created in the past did not gain him any money except the merits.

Exactly as BitcoinGirl.Club said, I don't think, this account changed hand, after going through his previous post I guess I can say he was only concerned about issues relating to Ratimov and Trust system by which he made pretty good reputation for himself and merit for ranking up, which are needed to join a campaign but since majority of the campaign available now are mainly Casino after the mixers banned, to increase his chances of getting accepted in these campaigns, he has to prove he can make gambling related post by being active there.

I guess this thread can be locked, since the chances of this claim being true is low especially since there was no password change from this user Security log (https://bitcointalk.org/seclog.php)

While if you check the poll on  that his thread where he added WO as a signature campaign, the others in the list are top campaign in this Forum though Stake as gotten more critics on being the campaign for scammers but in the end this shows he has little or no knowledge about signature campaign

 

I would say that its far from conclusive. Sure, there is an obvious change of a posting habbits but as BitcoinGirl.Club pointed out, maybe he just decided to monetize his forum activity and no easier weay to do it than being active in gambling section.



Why should he lock the thread literally few hours after opening and only a couple of people sharin their opinion? And who knows, maybe someone can see stuff that rest of us missed.

Oh I thought that, if there wasn't any password changed that means it will still be the same user failed to realised earlier that account owners can change even if the password wasn't changed and also realised that airfinex account is an old account (2018) and by now the user would have already known which campaign has lesser spammers than the others and also definitely be able to know that WO is not a campaign

I don't think that the account is in changed hands because the way he writes seems similar to me to what he used to write. I believe this time he only wanted to gain attention of the users and might also wanted to know that what other people think about the ones who make spam posts to increase the number of their weekly posts to earn maximum income from signature campaigns.

It's a common thing and many people understand it that most of the campaigns now running on this forum are mostly funded by online casinos so any member who doesn't make posts in gambling board will lose the chance to get accepted in those campaigns and the manager would never accept the users that don't make posts in gambling board or gambling discussion board. That can be the reason why he started posting in those boards.

I don't think so. This is a person who has an account which considered main account and without any doubt he knows very well about everything of this forum. When he said WO he meant Wall Observer. Without knowing the whole forum, you will never have a good idea of what WO means. It was an intentional option in the poll.

Firstly, everyone knows that airfinex is someone's alt. The problem is knowing whose alt it is. I do not think that the account changed hands because you have already said the kinds of posts he makes which he has not deviated from. For instance, his most recent post is a vigilant type of post and about forum issues. This shows that his interest hasn't changed. The recent post was made in reputation which also is his favourite board. The only new thing is that he is trying to enroll in signature campaign and has not been successful. Then, he decided to create some drama about campaign so that he would likely be accepted when next he applies for a campaign.
When I discovered that airfinex was the first person to call out Ratimov for plagerism, I knew a very respected forum member is behind the account.

Reason I didn't bother even responding to that thread he created. He is all about creating drama, and then he logs out until he finds something else to cling on and then he comes back.

I am not surprised he started applying for signature campaigns after achieving a full member rank. That's what they always do, sometimes they even criticize signatures in the forum only to start applying later.

There's another account I see following a similar pattern. We will see what happens once they rank up.

I had this member on my ignore list for a while so I don't know what he wrote after that, but I don't see any usual signs of account changing hands, there was no email and password reset, and he is only a Full Member.
There is however obvious change of writing style and he started making posts in gambling board, so anything is possible.

Yeah, dude I noticed that and was wondering if there was some campaign going on with the initials 'WO' but the first thing I thought of was the Wall Observer thread.  And yeah, airfinex doesn't post much given that he's been a member of the forum for nearly 6 years, but you'd think he'd know what WO is (and more importantly in the context of his thread, what it isn't).

I just glanced at his post history, and it looks to me like there hasn't been a change in English proficiency over the years, which is something that's obviously a dead giveaway of an account changing hands.  So I'd need way more evidence before I'd leave airfinex even a neutral tag--but that's just me.  He definitely doesn't deserve a negative, and I'd say even a neutral with not much to prove an account sale or hack is pushing it.

Well, everything here is circumstantial evidence, and in this topic I guess I'm biased because I've had a candidate in mind for the airfinex main account for some time now, and I'm surprised that this account has not tried to join signature campaigns while airfinex has, and that in the thread asking about spammers he has not included some campaigns that he knows very well. Although I could be wrong about that too, because the "evidence" I have for that is even less than for thinking it has changed hands. I am deleting the neutral tag.

A fun factoid is that the WO campaign is the least successful campaign in the history of the Bitcointalk forum. Not only are signatures not shown in their primary thread of posting (the WO thread), but they don't even have a signature at all.


IMO its still the same guy. He just avidly enjoys trolling with what is most likely to be a second account. Everyone needs a hobby I guess.

There are some who think that the writing style has changed, take a look at this. And also count how many debunking threads I created were created (I think 65% of them were very relevant). I was refused participation in the campaign only because I did not repay the debt, I think this is the reason and not that my threads are useless.

Unless you got a clear explanation from the campaign manager, you can't know that. And besides, what kinda debt are we even talking about?

Here you sound a bit disappointed with the positive epilogue of this situation. It seems like you are hoping that somehow an additional problem will arise so that you can continue with this passive aggression.
If you noticed, none of the affected users got angry except you as someone from the side.

This confused me as well. Does airlines owe a loan? Or have an alt account that they think managers know about that owes a loan?

He borrowed a couple of bucks from me.

I don’t think that this is somehow connected, but on the same day both Nakamura and Boltz approached me for an interest-free loan.

It is also on the same day as me? (Airfinex) or is it just both us boltz. I didn't know that there'd be also another person who contacted you on the same day as me. Well,not that it matters but I am sure I have nothing to do with it. I think he really did asked for a loan because why would he post something about not getting into sig campaign just because he didn't pay the debt then that means the account should have been given a negative trust already but I did not see any at all or maybe because it was a alt account.

I am not sure what it is that you want to achieve here or why you locked your thread and than quoted my post from there in this discussion. Unless, I am mistaken, I don't think anyone appointed you as our representative on Bitcointalk. When I say 'our', I mean of the members who participated in the Sinbad signature campaign. We are very capable of defending ourselves if there are problems that we believe should be handled or brought to the community's attention.

What are the best ways to know if an account changes hands is it to increase in post quality or to decrease in post quality okay there are two things involved here; although I am not a professional in digging out cases or tacking out profile that wasn't originally from the real owner but this are my thinking. If an account post moderate and later went off for about a year and comes back when their activities resumes it's either such person increase in their post quality or reduces in their post quality.

If the user increases we can easily assume that account has already changed hands and again if the person decreases we are also assuming the account changes  hands as well but to my own opinion the only way to detect or factor out is to check out their common phrase or a word the user often uses when they are posting even though his quality dropped we can say because such person isn't on space for some period probably being engaged with other works or in other fields where such person do not talk about the latest about the forum.

But if such person increases in their post quality then we can say for the period of inactive s/he has been keeping themselves busy with the latest happening, but to know more better is when they don't regularly use their phrase or words in common to them.