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Title: Casinos team identity
Post by: GxSTxV on February 17, 2024, 12:31:20 PM
The identity of a casino's team is something we rarely across in our forum even though we have like hundreds of announcement topics in this section, promoting services, gambling games and tournaments. This act typically comes around professionalism and hospitality to provide a special customer service. Showing friendliness.and deep understanding of the games offered. Team members may also be a comfortable addition to players here.

Till this day I didn't see any casino revealing the identity of their team, owners, employers and responsibles of the casino even though players are required to pass a KYC process for their identity, so I'm wondering have you ever thought about this too? and the reasons why most casinos are not doing this process?


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: Gozie51 on February 17, 2024, 12:47:23 PM
This is quite something that we have not really given attention to like it is one of the things that are considered when a new coin is getting listed.

Well I think in this case, the reason it could be played down on is because of the different checks and reputation verification on them through the threads like the Scam Accusation and Reputation child board of which any negative response is enough for the casino to lose customers or get tagged.

Another factor is that most of the casinos here that run on signature campaign are being handled by reputable users here and so that could explain why the team identification is not actually looked at but however some users also have contacts with the owners.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: Little Mouse on February 17, 2024, 12:49:24 PM
You or forum members aren't the eligible party to ask them KYC. They have doxxed the team with license provider depending on the requirements.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: pawanjain on February 17, 2024, 12:50:55 PM
The identity of a casino's team is something we rarely across in our forum even though we have like hundreds of announcement topics in this section, promoting services, gambling games and tournaments. This act typically come around professionalism and hospitality to provide a special customer service. Showing friendliness.and deep understanding of the games offered. Team members may also be a comfortable addition to players here.

Till this day I didn't see any casino revealing the identity of their team, owners, employers and responsibles of the casino even though players are required to pass a KYC process for their identity, so I'm wondering is you also thinked about this and the reasons why most casinos are not doing this process?

May be it's because we already have accounts who speak on the behalf of casino sites and assits people who are facing any issues on the site.
For example BC.GAME, Duelbits, Freebitcoin etc... all have their accounts on this forum and the dedicated ANN threads serve as a way to assist people with their issues and also showcase the offers and promotions on the sites.
So I guess there hasn't come a real need to reveal the real identity of the people since people have become more comfortable dealing with these accounts instead.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: qwertyup23 on February 17, 2024, 12:51:37 PM
The identity of a casino's team is something we rarely across in our forum even though we have like hundreds of announcement topics in this section, promoting services, gambling games and tournaments. This act typically come around professionalism and hospitality to provide a special customer service. Showing friendliness.and deep understanding of the games offered. Team members may also be a comfortable addition to players here.

Till this day I didn't see any casino revealing the identity of their team, owners, employers and responsibles of the casino even though players are required to pass a KYC process for their identity, so I'm wondering is you also thinked about this and the reasons why most casinos are not doing this process?

I think this is also for their security.

While I understand that having a designated team members in a certain project (e.g. ANN threads, startup token projects, etc.) are essential in order to confirm the authenticity of their goals and plans, in a gambling casino, it is somehow irrelevant. What separates a genuine casino from a scam one is the former's representation of itself and years of service with continued trust by establishing their reputation.

Lastly I also want to point out that having a team member's profile in an online casino can be quite difficult especially if we are talking about the nature of their project. Naturally, a person may feel devastated if they lost on their games or if they staked hundreds to thousands of $$$ worth of crypto and they may channel such rage and emotion into looking for the identities of the team members.

In conclusion, it may indeed compromise the safety of the team members.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: Apocollapse on February 17, 2024, 12:52:42 PM
If they have an option to not disclose their personal identity, why they need to publicize it to everyone else? ???

When you want to open a banks account, the banks' employees will ask you to submit your ID card and other personal information, do you ask their identity? I bet you not.

I think it's a stupid question, if you don't comfortable or don't like to submit KYC without know the owner's identity, don't gamble on that casino.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: Gozie51 on February 17, 2024, 01:14:36 PM

I think it's a stupid question
, if you don't comfortable or don't like to submit KYC without know the owner's identity, don't gamble on that casino.

Hey buddy, be cool. I think that is rather a harsh one. There is more subtle way you could have passed disagreement with his question and not this way.   ;D

Yeah KYC is not a force for a player who isn't cool about it where it is specified earlier before registeration.  


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: GxSTxV on February 17, 2024, 01:16:53 PM
Indeed! your points and answes are reasonable. The gambling industry presents a lot of risksand challenges than other industries, especially regarding the security and safety of team members. When some players experience big losses while gambling, some may react in a vey bad way, even to a point where they practice violence against casino employees or owners. Therefore, it's often better and wise to maintain a hidden identity of staff members to protect their being and prevent true harm from some specific individuals.


Quote from: Little Mouse  link=topic=5485485.msg63677570#msg63677570 date=1708174164
You or forum members aren't the eligible party to ask them KYC. They have doxxed the team with license provider depending on the requirements.
Sorry for the misunderstanding. I'm only referring to why some casinos don't voluntarily disclose their identity or undergo KYC processes and not asking. While such action could bring positive thing like transparency and trust, understanding some casinos may choose not to do so due to various negative reasons, things about privacy and their security.

Regarding your mention of licences, casinos like 1xbit which is a licensed casino as I know, they could scam players and many cases against them, without any consequences.
From what I understand, and I could be mistaken.


Just for more information, stake team and owners are known to be Bijan Tehrani and Edward Craven in public :

https://static.ffx.io/images/$zoom_0.113%2C$multiply_1.545%2C$ratio_1.5%2C$width_756%2C$x_0%2C$y_0/t_crop_custom/q_62%2Cf_auto/8920c17adacfea40268c8d6f2ac7b3d6c8936865

Image source: https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/australian-based-stake-com-founders-dodge-580-million-claim-20230627-p5djri.html



Edit: I apologize if my topic wasn't clear to many members here. To clarify, I'm not requesting for casinos to reveal their identity. As a gambler in many casinos myself, I feel comfortable without knowing the team's identity.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: PytagoraZ on February 17, 2024, 01:17:36 PM
Of course that's not necessary. This is where licensing is important, in my opinion the one who has the right to ask about KYC to the casino team is the gambling authority.

If the casino team's data is published it would be the same as committing suicide. They will be hunted by people who lost while gambling at the casino. What is more important than KYC is the existence of a complaint service that is facilitated by the gambling authority or gambling licensing authority. So that when we encounter problems when gambling at the casino, we know how to deal with them


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on February 17, 2024, 01:22:14 PM
The identity of a casino's team is something we rarely across in our forum even though we have like hundreds of announcement topics in this section, promoting services, gambling games and tournaments. This act typically come around professionalism and hospitality to provide a special customer service. Showing friendliness.and deep understanding of the games offered. Team members may also be a comfortable addition to players here.

Till this day I didn't see any casino revealing the identity of their team, owners, employers and responsibles of the casino even though players are required to pass a KYC process for their identity, so I'm wondering is you also thinked about this and the reasons why most casinos are not doing this process?

I think it boils down on trust and reputation of the casinos. I think some of the old casinos, we know the owners by their names as some of them are active here early. As for the KYC process, if I'm not mistaken, it's a 3rd party that handles all the documentations as far as I know.

For the support personnel, they have names right? not sure if that is their real names but I'm assuming it is as majority even have pictures attached with them as their avatar. And I don't think they will have to let us know the people behind them, in my opinion.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: GxSTxV on February 17, 2024, 01:24:21 PM
I think it's a stupid question, if you don't comfortable or don't like to submit KYC without know the owner's identity, don't gamble on that casino.

Just to be clear I'm not offended by your answer and opinion, we are here to share thoughts and bring good things to gambling industry. Maybe my topic is not clear for you, but you should see my records in the forum as a gambler and a user of many casinos. I myself working with a casino owner that has a license and doing video calls with him with much trust, I never asked for his identity because I respect his choice and this topic is about the positive points of team identity no more.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: Coin_trader on February 17, 2024, 01:30:29 PM
Till this day I didn't see any casino revealing the identity of their team, owners, employers and responsibles of the casino even though players are required to pass a KYC process for their identity, so I'm wondering is you also thinked about this and the reasons why most casinos are not doing this process?

It’s because to nature of their business. They are dealing with gambling industry which means there’s always a customer that will turn out to become problematic once they lose. Imagine being an owner and doxxed while a gambler that lose huge amount plan to get back to you or your personnel. I remember this kind of case before which a user trying to find the owner of the casino due to his losses.

Their license is what makes them partially dox to license provider. I don’t really care whether I knew the owner or not because that doesn’t change my winning rate on the casino. Also it will be very hard to contact them for whatever reason since they already live support to deal with any customer issues.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: Distinctin on February 17, 2024, 01:31:18 PM
it's probably 'cause they're representing a company, you know? The name of the business is, like, the company name. If you got an issue with them and wanna go all lawsuit mode, you won't be suing the owners or the team one by one. You'd be filing that case against the whole company, so, like, it's not really necessary to spill their identities.

But, like, for some reason, you might know the team members, especially if they're just starting out with things like crowdfunding. Back in the day, with crowdfunding and all, they used to let people know who's in charge of the show, so people could check if they're trustworthy and got the skills.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: Mr. Magkaisa on February 17, 2024, 01:44:26 PM
The identity of a casino's team is something we rarely across in our forum even though we have like hundreds of announcement topics in this section, promoting services, gambling games and tournaments. This act typically come around professionalism and hospitality to provide a special customer service. Showing friendliness.and deep understanding of the games offered. Team members may also be a comfortable addition to players here.

Till this day I didn't see any casino revealing the identity of their team, owners, employers and responsibles of the casino even though players are required to pass a KYC process for their identity, so I'm wondering is you also thinked about this and the reasons why most casinos are not doing this process?

           -    Do you think that is important? If a casino has a good reputation in the field of cryptocurrency, in my opinion, then it's fine. It's just like stakescom, duelbits, and other casinos that have been here for a long time in this industry; there is no transparency of the team that is shown, and yet they are doing well until now.

As long as the gamblers are nice and satisfied in a reputable casino, I don't think that will be an issue at all. The important thing is that the service provided by the casino is good and enjoyable.
This is the important thing, isn't it, that no one is angry between gamblers, right?


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: Nwada001 on February 17, 2024, 02:23:00 PM
When you want to open a banks account, the banks' employees will ask you to submit your ID card and other personal information, do you ask their identity? I bet you not.
This is a totally different case; most of the bank's top shareholders' identities are well known to the public; they are not hidden if we are to judge and compare them in that aspect.
 
But there are very few. I mean, very few casino teams are well known in this industry. Many of them who even claim to have passed some audits might not be using their real identities to pass those verifications.

It means nothing if they can just serve their purpose and don't have any form of scam scheme. To them, they don't owe the public their identity; they only have to provide it to those regulatory bodies that grant them license, as it's part of the rules.
 
@Op, The casino owner is not even requesting gamblers identification; rather, they need to meet the procedures as required by their licence body, the same body that has access to their own personal information; the only difference is that they have access to yours, whereas you don't have access to theirs.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on February 17, 2024, 02:35:22 PM
The identity of a casino's team is something we rarely across in our forum even though we have like hundreds of announcement topics in this section, promoting services, gambling games and tournaments. This act typically come around professionalism and hospitality to provide a special customer service. Showing friendliness.and deep understanding of the games offered. Team members may also be a comfortable addition to players here.

Till this day I didn't see any casino revealing the identity of their team, owners, employers and responsibles of the casino even though players are required to pass a KYC process for their identity, so I'm wondering is you also thinked about this and the reasons why most casinos are not doing this process?
Well, from what I know through what I've read in the past concerning this same topic, it is said that casino owners do not reveal their identity, or reveal the identity of their workers for security reason, we all know that it is generally assumed that running a gambling casino, both online and offline is a very risky business, as there will always be time when players who have lost huge amount of money to the casino through their gambling activities could get really angry and plot an evil target on the casino owners, or workers, as a way of getting vengeance for their lost money.

There have actually been some stories in the past where a player attacked an offline casinos and burnt the building down as a way of getting back at the casino for the money he lost playing on that casino.
So, for such reasons, it has become generally believed that it's of utmost importance that casinos owners keep their physical identity away from the public, and also, the identity of their workers away from public as well, for their safety.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: madnessteat on February 17, 2024, 02:45:31 PM
The identity of a casino's team is something we rarely across in our forum even though we have like hundreds of announcement topics in this section, promoting services, gambling games and tournaments. This act typically come around professionalism and hospitality to provide a special customer service. Showing friendliness.and deep understanding of the games offered. Team members may also be a comfortable addition to players here.

Till this day I didn't see any casino revealing the identity of their team, owners, employers and responsibles of the casino even though players are required to pass a KYC process for their identity, so I'm wondering is you also thinked about this and the reasons why most casinos are not doing this process?

The casino owner reveals his identity during the process of obtaining a license, paying taxes. He is not obliged to reveal his identity to his customers and partly for his own safety. We have all heard many stories as compulsive gamblers in their own greed lost a lot of money, and then crossed the line of the law. It is quite possible that the casino owners do not reveal their identity so that the angry gambler did not go to their home after another loss.  And these are understandable reasons.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: coin-investor on February 17, 2024, 02:47:06 PM
They can only do that when they are applying for a license, if I'm a casino operator I don't want to post it on my homepage there are unsatisfied gamblers who may attack me and spread lies about my identity and that will harm my reputation and my family, and besides I don't want people in my town blaming me because I'm a casino operator many people have the wrong impression on gambling and this is something a casino operator tries to avoid.

Gambling is a different business, it's not the kind of business that operators can be proud of if they are living in a strictly religious country, so to protect their reputation and name they prefer to keep their identity hidden.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: bittraffic on February 17, 2024, 02:56:21 PM

They hid their identities also.  Like the rest of us, they are also concerned about privacy and security.
If some casino owners reveal their identity then its just up to them. But I think they are not going to places where people would identify them. It's hard enough to keep yourself private in the online world, the more it would be hard when you are well known.

They can only do that when they are applying for a license, if I'm a casino operator I don't want to post it on my homepage there are unsatisfied gamblers who may attack me and spread lies about my identity and that will harm my reputation and my family, and besides I don't want people in my town blaming me because I'm a casino operator many people have the wrong impression on gambling and this is something a casino operator tries to avoid.

Gambling is a different business, it's not the kind of business that operators can be proud of if they are living in a strictly religious country, so to protect their reputation and name they prefer to keep their identity hidden.

Gamblers who lose a lot of money may blame the casino owner for the loss so attacking them is really possible. This case alone will be one of the things they would need to avoid. Plus criminals who plan to rob someone with lots of BTC.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: danherbias07 on February 17, 2024, 02:57:59 PM
Eddie's face is always on kick.com. I think it will be easy for the authorities to trace him if they want to.

IMO, some online gambling sites are doing this for security reasons. The gambling industry is one of the biggest industries when it comes to money getting in and out. It will be difficult to protect that money if they are known to the public. This is just like the ICO's before in cryptocurrencies. They love being semi-anonymous but sometimes there are also those who are doing it for a different reason. Bad ones.

We cannot compare that with the KYC that we are passing. Imagine a team of 50 people against 1 million people. It's easier to track them than us.
And, they are just obeying the rules of the country where they are established especially if it's strict against money laundering.

It's not a secret that gambling sites, physical or online are used to wash money. They cannot just let those slide and jeopardize their business which is why they do KYC. My only worry is how they keep those information secured and I wish it's well taken care of.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: 348Judah on February 17, 2024, 03:11:12 PM
Till this day I didn't see any casino revealing the identity of their team, owners, employers and responsibles of the casino even though players are required to pass a KYC process for their identity, so I'm wondering is you also thinked about this and the reasons why most casinos are not doing this process?

The casinos have to be security conscious in revealing their identity or team members, this is nothing than the way people will be likely to abusing it in approaching them, it is also our choice and decision to make by using a casino that requires going through the kyc or we make use of the one that doesn't requires for kyc, they are the service providers, knowing them in person can do us no good, they also have to protect their privacy and integrity, revealing it has no advantage on us for any reason than abusing it instead.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: aioc on February 17, 2024, 03:12:37 PM
Can you imagine every time there's a scam accusation on one casino they will include the identity of the owners or operators even if the accusation is a false accusation, just because the gambler cannot accept the losses, that's the easiest way to bribe a casino posting his identity in the scam section and the casino owners have no way to file a case because the accusers do not have an identity.
Only Stakes have their owners identified but they have managers to run the operations, casinos are a legit business but many people do not accept it morally.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: noormcs5 on February 17, 2024, 03:20:41 PM
The identity of a casino's team is something we rarely across in our forum even though we have like hundreds of announcement topics in this section, promoting services, gambling games and tournaments. This act typically come around professionalism and hospitality to provide a special customer service. Showing friendliness.and deep understanding of the games offered. Team members may also be a comfortable addition to players here.

Till this day I didn't see any casino revealing the identity of their team, owners, employers and responsibles of the casino even though players are required to pass a KYC process for their identity, so I'm wondering is you also thinked about this and the reasons why most casinos are not doing this process?

Well, i agree that the players have to provide the KYC data to the gambling casinos. but does the gambling casino make that data public? No they do not, they just keep it with themselves.
So keeping this in mind, I don't think that it will be fair for us to ask the gambling site owners to disclose their identity publicly. And asking for theirs employee identity is also not the right thing in my opinion.

I think it's a stupid question, if you don't comfortable or don't like to submit KYC without know the owner's identity, don't gamble on that casino.

They ask our KYC so we will ask their KYC. This is now how it works and you are right, if someone is not comfortable with their KYC, better leave the casino asking for KYC and start playing at risky casinos where the chances of scam are more. How strange it is that people are willing to get scam but not willing to do the gambling casino mandatory KYC.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: Kavelj22 on February 17, 2024, 03:21:35 PM
This is quite something that we have not really given attention to like it is one of the things that are considered when a new coin is getting listed.


This is not an important point, in my opinion, and no one is authorized to request such precise data about the staff of any casino unless it has the necessary licenses. Licensing providers guarantee the integrity of the work team once they are granted a license, since they will be held accountable for all data submitted to obtain the license from the competent authorities.

In the few cases where a casino is active without a license, the guarantee is the reputation of the profiles that promote it, as happens here on the forum when trusted members launch a casino project or are part of the work team. They enjoy the privacy they want, although their reputation is the guarantee of their credibility.

In any case, it is not easy to gain complete confidence in the community, even if licenses are obtained. The platform's reputation history is what determines its credibility, and for new casinos, there are other guarantees that it can provide, emphasizing the need to deal with them with caution.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: spiker777 on February 17, 2024, 04:00:09 PM
The identity of a casino's team is something we rarely across in our forum even though we have like hundreds of announcement topics in this section, promoting services, gambling games and tournaments. This act typically come around professionalism and hospitality to provide a special customer service. Showing friendliness.and deep understanding of the games offered. Team members may also be a comfortable addition to players here.

Till this day I didn't see any casino revealing the identity of their team, owners, employers and responsibles of the casino even though players are required to pass a KYC process for their identity, so I'm wondering is you also thinked about this and the reasons why most casinos are not doing this process?
People barely care about that which is the basic reason why casinos don't focus on revealing the team behind. When it comes to cryptocurrency projects, they reveal their teams because people need to know who is in the team behind a project. After all, the success of a project depends greatly on the experience of the team members, but in casinos, people know it doesn't matter much because as long as a casino is registered and has a license, people trust it.
Besides, people often see the services they provide whether how good or bad they are with everything, especially deposits and withdrawals and customer service, because these two are the most important factors for a gambler when they are joining a gambling platform.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: goaldigger on February 17, 2024, 04:09:27 PM

I think it's a stupid question
, if you don't comfortable or don't like to submit KYC without know the owner's identity, don't gamble on that casino.

Hey buddy, be cool. I think that is rather a harsh one. There is more subtle way you could have passed disagreement with his question and not this way.   ;D

Yeah KYC is not a force for a player who isn't cool about it where it is specified earlier before registeration. 
Top casinos have their team information available in public, and this is why many are confident with their KYC.
Though you still have choice to try the site or just skip it, if you are not ok with the rules of the site and they way they hide their identity, then better to look for alternatives. I’m ok with Level1 KYC, but if they require me to submit documents then that is the time for me to look for other options.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: goldkingcoiner on February 17, 2024, 04:23:53 PM
The identity of a casino's team is something we rarely across in our forum even though we have like hundreds of announcement topics in this section, promoting services, gambling games and tournaments. This act typically comes around professionalism and hospitality to provide a special customer service. Showing friendliness.and deep understanding of the games offered. Team members may also be a comfortable addition to players here.

Till this day I didn't see any casino revealing the identity of their team, owners, employers and responsibles of the casino even though players are required to pass a KYC process for their identity, so I'm wondering have you ever thought about this too? and the reasons why most casinos are not doing this process?


Any casino that reveals the identity of their team is not very smart. In fact, they may very well be putting the lives of their team in danger if they did that. Why? Because some people are more than simply "sore losers" when they lose a lot of money. There exist individuals who lose so much money that they even take their own lives or even the lives of other people in revenge because of it. Is it the teams fault that some crazy guy decided to go all in with his house, all his lives money and everything he has, just to lose it all in a matter of seconds? No.

Casinos have licenses that can be verified. That should be enough, I think.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: Japinat on February 17, 2024, 04:29:50 PM
They hid their identities also.  Like the rest of us, they are also concerned about privacy and security.
If some casino owners reveal their identity then its just up to them. But I think they are not going to places where people would identify them. It's hard enough to keep yourself private in the online world, the more it would be hard when you are well known.

Hiding is different from not displaying their identity. If this gambling site is owned by a company, we can always inquire about the people behind it. In a company, there are officers like the President, down to the lowest ranks, but they all represent the same brand as they are the individuals behind the company. Honestly, I am not interested in knowing who the people behind the company are. For us gamblers, what's important is that we are sure they are operating with a license and have a good reputation. But the moment they mess up, that's the time we will know the people behind it when we are filing a case, so we know who we are dealing with.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: stadus on February 17, 2024, 04:43:05 PM
The identity of a casino's team is something we rarely across in our forum even though we have like hundreds of announcement topics in this section, promoting services, gambling games and tournaments. This act typically comes around professionalism and hospitality to provide a special customer service. Showing friendliness.and deep understanding of the games offered. Team members may also be a comfortable addition to players here.
Why would they tell their identity in the first place? How would it make their business more successful? If it doesn't help then they can just stick with the norms. There are a lot of businesses in the world that are successful and yet when they advertise, they carry the name of the business not the people behind it.

Till this day I didn't see any casino revealing the identity of their team, owners, employers and responsibles of the casino even though players are required to pass a KYC process for their identity, so I'm wondering have you ever thought about this too? and the reasons why most casinos are not doing this process?

It has nothing to do with us passing the KYC requirement. It's mandatory and they are just bound to follow what the regulators instruct them to do, that's part of the KYC thing, you know. Yes they know us but they are required to take care of our information and keep it confidential.

Well, actually, you can make a research on a casino you are using if you have doubts.
Say, I will now search the owner of stake, I'll just simply search it in google. and this will appear.

Quote
In the dynamic realm of crypto gambling, one name has risen above the rest, captivating the attention of gamblers worldwide. Stake.com, founded in 2017 by Australia’s youngest billionaire Ed Craven and co-founder Bijan Tehrani, has swiftly climbed the ranks to become the seventh-largest gambling group globally in terms of revenues. This rising star has not only challenged but surpassed established brands such as DraftKings and 888. As Stake.com continues to gain prominence, many are curious about the individuals and strategies behind its success.
source (https://www.intelligenthq.com/unveiling-the-ownership-behind-stake-com-a-crypto-gambling-powerhouse/#:~:text=Stake.com%2C%20founded%20in%202017,such%20as%20DraftKings%20and%20888.)


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: piebeyb on February 17, 2024, 04:47:15 PM
I also thought like this before, why are we the only users who are asked to complete KYC when we never see the identity of the casino team, I know that doesn't seem fair enough, but after time I think again, I'm just a users on their site and they don't force me to play on their site, so why should I question their identity, because I want to play there to have fun so it doesn't matter if they ask for my KYC if necessary when I bet big, as long as the site they are trusted and have a reputation, everything seems fine.

If I'm not mistaken, there are also big sites that have several team identities that are only public about personal profiles such as photos or videos, but that's only on big sites, not on sites that are still considered small casinos, usually they are more closed about that, so I'm not sure about playing. There are small sites because most of them also maintain privacy or are set up anonymously and closed, I think many sites have team identities that don't want to be published too, however, if you don't like sites that don't reveal their team's identity, you should just ignore them. Please look for sites that reveal the identity of their team, but it seems impossible to find many.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: Wiwo on February 17, 2024, 04:51:07 PM
This is simple to figure out the reason behind team members' privacy, and as such, I may have to outline some key possible reasons that make casino teams to operate in anonymity.

1: it rather for security reasons since knowing their identity will put them in the grave danger from both thieves and those who may have lost heavily during their time at the casinos.

2: they are identity may be used by scammers who may want to scam others by acting under a false identity that claims to be the team members or so.

If you check vividly you will see that there is no need to expose to the public who are the operators of the casino and since this doesn't affect their work in any way and licenses cover the security of players,  having a license covers the need for the team to go public.

And reason why casinos ask for KYC from players is to fulfil regulatory demands since the government are those who mostly uses KYC for security reasons and the casino as a business may not really need that KYC since the aim is to have an abuse-free operation and generate as many profits as possible.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: the rise on February 17, 2024, 04:55:31 PM
I've also thought about that, why don't they include their team list, maybe I think it's for their security too, because many countries prohibit gambling and only a small part accept gambling as a legal activity, and that's also why many people hate it. casinos that require KYC, especially as long as their reputation is good enough, there is no need to show off the casino team, we can easily find trusted casino sites on forums


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: Beparanf on February 17, 2024, 05:06:01 PM
I've also thought about that, why don't they include their team list, maybe I think it's for their security too, because many countries prohibit gambling and only a small part accept gambling as a legal activity, and that's also why many people hate it. casinos that require KYC, especially as long as their reputation is good enough, there is no need to show off the casino team, we can easily find trusted casino sites on forums

It’s not about some country prohibit gambling since they have license to operate which means they automatically doesn’t offer their service on restricted country or else they will loss their license. I think it’s for the privacy purposes of all their employees including the owner.

We all know that online has full of some random people with different characteristics. Casino is just taking safety precautions. Also they are not startup project that needs appearance of the team for people to trust the casino.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: Findingnemo on February 17, 2024, 05:08:38 PM


Edit: I apologize if my topic wasn't clear to many members here. To clarify, I'm not requesting for casinos to reveal their identity. As a gambler in many casinos myself, I feel comfortable without knowing the team's identity.
Just like casino team, we don't expose our identity here on forum because it's not required and definitely I don't need their identity because it might be hard for me trust whether they are really giving their actual names or just for the sake of doing it so better let them enjoy working with privacy regarding their consumers but they are mostly required to pass identity to get their licence.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: Wakate on February 17, 2024, 05:50:13 PM
The identity of a casino's team is something we rarely across in our forum even though we have like hundreds of announcement topics in this section, promoting services, gambling games and tournaments. This act typically comes around professionalism and hospitality to provide a special customer service. Showing friendliness.and deep understanding of the games offered. Team members may also be a comfortable addition to players here.

Till this day I didn't see any casino revealing the identity of their team, owners, employers and responsibles of the casino even though players are required to pass a KYC process for their identity, so I'm wondering have you ever thought about this too? and the reasons why most casinos are not doing this process?
What do you need their identity to do? I hope you don't have the intention to sue them or whatsoever. There is no need for anything identity even though the casino requires you to do KYC so that you will be by able to use the casino without any restrictions. We choose to make money from casinos and no one forced us to bet on there site, so we just need to keep doing what we know best. Also since we don't know any of the team of many of the casinos we are using, it is better we go for reputable casinos that will not crash one day and take our money away. It is good we avoid the bad ones that are too good to be real.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: crwth on February 17, 2024, 05:53:03 PM
I believe that there are reasons why casino owners or developers are not named. It can be privacy, security, and anonymity. I know that there are a couple of casinos that are famous and owned by the same group of people and probably they don't want to look at how they are competing with each other.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: bitvalak on February 17, 2024, 07:26:37 PM
Shouldn't the casino team's identity be made public?
Because there will be many serious threats that could come their way, especially since they manage fantastic amounts of member money.
In my opinion, the team here is just the people assigned to run it, of course they have bosses who support the company's funds.
It could be that these people are famous conglomerates whose real identities do not want to be known. Unless the casino is run through crowdfunding, it may require transparency of the casino team to gain trust.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: yahoo62278 on February 17, 2024, 07:34:33 PM
I think people would enjoy knowing who owns and or operates online casinos they frequent, but it wouldn't change anything. You can probably google and find the operators of most land based casinos. Might not be able to find the whole team, but you can usually find the top guy or group.



Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: Davidvictorson on February 17, 2024, 07:45:01 PM
Till this day I didn't see any casino revealing the identity of their team, owners, employers and responsibles of the casino even though players are required to pass a KYC process for their identity, so I'm wondering have you ever thought about this too? and the reasons why most casinos are not doing this process?
We do not need to know the team behind casinos management or operations for their own privacy and safety. Imagine that a disgruntled gambler who have lost his life savings to gambling and is suffering for depression and anger knowing the identity of a casino team member may carry out physical hurt on the person. They could go as far as cyber bullying them. I do not want to know who is behind the casino. All I want to know if they offer all the nice things written in their terms of service. There will also be too much focus on them by the public, media, government and what have you. We do not need that. This may sound like a cliche but the cons outweighs the pros. It is a no for me. 


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: darkangel11 on February 17, 2024, 07:54:34 PM
I think people would enjoy knowing who owns and or operates online casinos they frequent, but it wouldn't change anything. You can probably google and find the operators of most land based casinos. Might not be able to find the whole team, but you can usually find the top guy or group.



That's correct the domains are usually registered to one of the owners. It's hard to get the full team, but why would someone need to know the names of programmers?
They demand KYC, so they want your data but they keep it a secret, unless you count hacks and leaks (which is why I don't do KYC) but I know they don't want the data to sell it or leak it, but because their licenses demand they collect it.
It would be great if most owners were openly saying who they are, like Stake owners, but I'm used to them using nicknames. If they can build a reputation around a nickname or a brand, that's enough.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: Slow death on February 17, 2024, 09:39:35 PM
If they have an option to not disclose their personal identity, why they need to publicize it to everyone else? ???

When you want to open a banks account, the banks' employees will ask you to submit your ID card and other personal information, do you ask their identity? I bet you not.

I think it's a stupid question, if you don't comfortable or don't like to submit KYC without know the owner's identity, don't gamble on that casino.

This is an example that doesn't make any sense for the following reasons:

1 - ) in all banks in my country for example and I believe this happens in banks in other countries, bank employees are easily identifiable people, they show their face, their full name at the counter when they ask for ID of people, perhaps you may not have paid close attention when you went to open a bank account, but if you didn't pay that attention, try going to one of the banks in your country to ask for information and you will see that the bank employees are showing their faces and there is a very visible document on their neck showing their name, this is so that when a customer has a complaint about the way they were treated during service they can complain to the central bank

2 - ) in every country in the world, companies are duly registered, and all anyone needs to do is research the company to find out who the owners of the company are and in the case of banks, it is even easier to know who the owner of the bank is, because Banks are very regulated, they are very serious institutions, so the owners are not anonymous. In the same way as most physical companies, all owners have a name and face, see the case of physical casinos, they have owners who show faces and the reason is very simple: the owners do not need to hide because they are regulated, they have a license and all other documents. and when I talk about leave, I'm talking about respectable parental leave where the law works well



In the past I asked a lot of questions like this, because people had to do kyc on sites where the owners are anonymous, it was and continues to be something that I can't understand because it doesn't make any sense. If someone uses a money laundering argument, it doesn't make sense that only customers would launder money and the creator of the casino would not use the casino to launder money. but as arguing about this wouldn't get me anywhere, so I gave up, because this is the fault of the governments that imposed kyc without first creating fair laws


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: Westinhome on February 17, 2024, 10:34:11 PM
The identity of a casino's team is something we rarely across in our forum even though we have like hundreds of announcement topics in this section, promoting services, gambling games and tournaments. This act typically comes around professionalism and hospitality to provide a special customer service. Showing friendliness.and deep understanding of the games offered. Team members may also be a comfortable addition to players here.

Till this day I didn't see any casino revealing the identity of their team, owners, employers and responsibles of the casino even though players are required to pass a KYC process for their identity, so I'm wondering have you ever thought about this too? and the reasons why most casinos are not doing this process?

The casino team identity was hidden by the many gambling site,it may be due to their security.But we can’t blame all the websites because they hide their own identities.Some scam gambling site also doing this to get away from the legal issues after they scam the users from the countries around the world.We know many gambling site was get into the hacking of the crypto wallet,many of the gambling site was based on the crypto currency now.For the security reasons many gambling site may hide their name towards the society,to some people this seems more wired.But actually it is not the questionable one.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: alani123 on February 17, 2024, 10:40:46 PM
Stake owners are actually somewhat known.
They were also running primedice before founding stake. Well if a casino owner can find a safe jurisdiction for his well being I don't see why he should be in hiding.

I think often casino owners are afraid of going to jail or having their belongings confiscated because of unlicensed gambling being a crime in their jurisdiction. Seals with clubs had this issue in its early days in 2015 and had to change many things to remain safe from police... It's a very weird world for police to be hunting down website operators other than real violent criminals.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: erep on February 17, 2024, 10:43:49 PM
The casino team identity was hidden by the many gambling site,it may be due to their security.But we can’t blame all the websites because they hide their own identities.Some scam gambling site also doing this to get away from the legal issues after they scam the users from the countries around the world.We know many gambling site was get into the hacking of the crypto wallet,many of the gambling site was based on the crypto currency now.For the security reasons many gambling site may hide their name towards the society,to some people this seems more wired.But actually it is not the questionable one.

We need to know about the team members, even though they don't publish detailed team member data, some casinos that already have licenses with related parties should be able to publish photos and brief identities of the team so that users can find out the casino team profile, but I think they will still hide their identities but the casino scams can profit from anonymous teams, they will cheat customers and gamblers cannot sue fake casinos because they do not know the identity of the casino team, so we should focus on gambling in popular crypto casinos to avoid casino scams that cause losses to your account balance.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: Casdinyard on February 17, 2024, 11:04:00 PM
The identity of a casino's team is something we rarely across in our forum even though we have like hundreds of announcement topics in this section, promoting services, gambling games and tournaments. This act typically comes around professionalism and hospitality to provide a special customer service. Showing friendliness.and deep understanding of the games offered. Team members may also be a comfortable addition to players here.

Till this day I didn't see any casino revealing the identity of their team, owners, employers and responsibles of the casino even though players are required to pass a KYC process for their identity, so I'm wondering have you ever thought about this too? and the reasons why most casinos are not doing this process?
Some casinos have been very upfront with the identity of their core team, Stake being one of the biggest examples of this. But even though some casinos prefer to not show up or reveal themselves to the public, I don't think that's grounds for doubt and suspicion because let's be real here, knowing about the identity of your casino's CEO should be the least of your worries when there are more "out there" problems and issues you may experience.

One of the biggest "out there" issues you would experience before you even start to think about being so interested about your current casino of choice's CEO or core team's identity is how you should manage your gambling behavior. Some of us here (and let's be real here my friends) do not deserve to get into an online casino the way they carry themselves when they gamble. With that in mind do you think the core team's to blame for that or whatever? Personally I don't.

I don't wanna sound like I'm dickriding on keeping the Casino's Team's identity or whatever, since in any case I'd be more at ease with a casino that goes out there to really show that they are for transparency, but this industry's vile and weird and creepy at its darkest and I don't think people should just have access to anybody's info in here, especially if they work directly for the casino.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: Weawant on February 17, 2024, 11:10:54 PM
Till this day I didn't see any casino revealing the identity of their team, owners, employers and responsibles of the casino even though players are required to pass a KYC process for their identity, so I'm wondering have you ever thought about this too? and the reasons why most casinos are not doing this process?
I think casinos has refuse to expose the name of any of their team members for security reasons because a few times we could think of how much the casino make and think if we are behind the casinos machine or the algorithm upon which the platform is been  run we could make more money but unknown to them.

Kyc for most casinos are Strictly for their customers and for security reasons they would not want to expose the identity of their team because a few persons may want to think that by getting to know these team members they could get rich by milking the casinos but unknown to the. That some of the casino is automated and the algorithm is independent of the regulators, so basically I think for security reasons most casinos will not be allowed to unvail their team members just like that actually


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: Wiwo on February 17, 2024, 11:12:06 PM
You or forum members aren't the eligible party to ask them KYC. They have doxxed the team with a license provider depending on the requirements.
To some extent,  we as forum member do not have the moral right to discuss anything as regards to KYC how much more than asking the casino team to prove their identity,  this is because as bitcointalk members we exist based on our user names and at that we are privacy conscious.

By asking casino teams to expose the identity may be acting a little out of proportion which at most will not lead to anything good in the long run.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: SmartGold01 on February 17, 2024, 11:53:30 PM
Maybe they chose to remain anonymous to operate seamlessly or so that non of their worker and founder will be track but still I am wondering why they still collect personal document from player without them revealing their identity to the community, usually when a projects comes up we do find their real name on the whitepaper or onepager where all brief and concise information about a particular project are being documented to enable investor have full confident of the project they venturing to.
Please have you check on their whitepaper before they are not mentioned there at op?


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: Hirose UK on February 18, 2024, 12:42:19 AM
Identity of the casino team will never be revealed, even in offline casinos or physical casinos where we can directly meet face to face with the team or casino workers and they are not necessarily willing to provide detailed personal identities.
Maybe the casino team service is what should be prioritized but there are some exceptions that are given to customers, if that all then it is clear that certain people can have this service.
In gambling, everything will run anonymously, but perhaps there is deep reason for this, such as when customer feels cheated, it is clear that he will look for team or casino worker easily when he knows his identity and maybe something bad will happen.
This is why there will never be such thing as disclosure of personal identity for any casino team member or employee.

I myself, with various experiences in gambling, have never once known of casino that freely provides information regarding the identity of the team they own.
Maybe customers are required to provide KYC but this can never be applied by the casino team to customers, this doesn't make sense and I never thought I could get service like this.
Besides I don't really care about their identity, as long as they provide comfort, security and good service then that is more than enough.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: ethereumhunter on February 18, 2024, 08:43:34 AM
I didn't think about it because it was their secret. We are also the same when we choose a casino where we also have to check each casino and make sure it is the casino we want. We won't know who the casino owners are because they don't say it either and we probably only know their representatives on these forums. If it is a trusted casino, we don't need to think about this and just use the casino to gamble. We as users will also find it difficult to find out the casino owner's or team's identity unless we contact the regulator to ask who they are, but the regulator will not want to say who they are.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: Natsuu on February 18, 2024, 08:57:40 AM
Casinos usually keep their team members' identities on the down-low maybe to keep things secure and avoid any unwanted attention. It's like a safety thing because this way owners and employees can do their thing without exposing themselves to potential risks. While being open about certain aspects is good like fair play and rules, they often choose to play it cool when it comes to personal details like striking a balance between transparency and keeping everything on the hush for a smooth gaming experience


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: ARTOIS on February 18, 2024, 09:27:42 AM
As you mentioned the issue of presenting information about casino managers to the public, I think that there are two points that we must consider, which are the positives and negatives.

-Positives :
 -Gain the confidence of the players more and make them play more comfortably.
-Make the casino more transparent and receive more players.
-Negatives:
-Casino managers put themselves in danger because players obtaining information about them makes them vulnerable to blackmail and threats, for example, if one of them loses his money.
-Even families, friends and relatives will be at risk.
-They will always be under pressure because everyone will try to reach them personally if they want help.
-Some will try to delve into the details of the information for nefarious purposes such as hacking and sabotaging the casino.

As you see there's risks and negative things than positive things soI think hiding their personal information is the right thing to do.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: Fortify on February 18, 2024, 09:43:15 AM
The identity of a casino's team is something we rarely across in our forum even though we have like hundreds of announcement topics in this section, promoting services, gambling games and tournaments. This act typically comes around professionalism and hospitality to provide a special customer service. Showing friendliness.and deep understanding of the games offered. Team members may also be a comfortable addition to players here.

Till this day I didn't see any casino revealing the identity of their team, owners, employers and responsibles of the casino even though players are required to pass a KYC process for their identity, so I'm wondering have you ever thought about this too? and the reasons why most casinos are not doing this process?

You seem to be misrepresenting what information is being shared and with who. Owners of a casino are often identifiable through company records which are often shared publicly in many countries, in order to aid transparency. The other employees of a casino have just as much right to privacy in their place of work as any other job, the most you might hope to see broadcast is their first name on a badge if they are in front of house positions. All employees will be vetted by the company, to make sure that they follow all necessary employment and right to work laws in their country, which can be validated by the government on request. Beyond that, your personal details are not broadcast for all to see, so I'm not sure why you would expect employees to have theirs shared like that either. You are not forced to play at these gambling sites, don't act like you are.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: salad daging on February 18, 2024, 10:18:21 AM
All we know is that the owner of the stake.com casino is already known and exposed by several media because he is famous for the progress of his casino but for other casinos I have never seen that process.

There is a reason behind all that why the identity of the casino owner does not carry out the process publicly, but to get a casino license will not the owner give it? Here we understand that the authority has pocketed their KYC proof after registering the casino for licensing.

But it also makes sense that even if the identity of their team is not known to their customers, they still run a good casino? Even if they are having problems, it is the authorities who can reveal this and we will never know what is behind it all.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: freedomgo on February 18, 2024, 10:33:17 AM
All we know is that the owner of the stake.com casino is already known and exposed by several media because he is famous for the progress of his casino but for other casinos I have never seen that process.

There is a reason behind all that why the identity of the casino owner does not carry out the process publicly, but to get a casino license will not the owner give it? Here we understand that the authority has pocketed their KYC proof after registering the casino for licensing.
When a casino applies for a license, they have to submit all the necessary requirements. This includes the names of the casino owners, their officers, and all other vital information for the operation. I'm not sure about the specific requirements that a license provider demands, but all the information I mentioned is typically considered basic and necessary for the approval process.

But it also makes sense that even if the identity of their team is not known to their customers, they still run a good casino? Even if they are having problems, it is the authorities who can reveal this and we will never know what is behind it all.
It might not be known to them, but when the authorities do find out, they can request information from the license providers to check if this casino has any complaints to address. Therefore, it's not a problem if their names are not known as long as their casino maintains a good reputation.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: Mr. Magkaisa on February 18, 2024, 11:12:12 AM
I believe that there are reasons why casino owners or developers are not named. It can be privacy, security, and anonymity. I know that there are a couple of casinos that are famous and owned by the same group of people and probably they don't want to look at how they are competing with each other.

       -     And whatever that reason is, I don't think it's that important to know that, right? Because the important thing is the services, and there are no issues happening on their platform from their users, who often play gambling on their platform.

Is that a big deal to you, mate? But you know that it has a good reputation in the field of crypto gambling, and you have been making it play in their casino for several years. Of course you will be complacent about that because you trust the casino, right?


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: m2017 on February 18, 2024, 11:33:41 AM
Till this day I didn't see any casino revealing the identity of their team, owners, employers and responsibles of the casino even though players are required to pass a KYC process for their identity, so I'm wondering have you ever thought about this too? and the reasons why most casinos are not doing this process?
I assume this is due to the legality of cryptocasinos in the jurisdiction in which they are located. And also with tax evasion. Legally, casino owners may be front men, while the real owner may remain in the shadows. I think this is also due to the fact that there are no legal regulations forcing cryptocasinos to disclose information about "of their team, owners, employers and responsibles of the casino". In fact, in my opinion, cryptocasinos are in a legal gray area. This entire current situation allows cryptocasinos to organize exit-scams and casino owners disappear with impunity with gambler's money. This escape route is a good incentive not to reveal the casino team.

There is a clear imbalance: the casino demands KYC from you, while they themselves remain “invisible” to the gamblers. Although, in fact, gamblers are at greater risk than casinos. Gamblers won’t run away with casino money in an unknown direction, right?

I think this way: if a casino demands KYC from me, then let it first provide information about the team so that I can be confident in their reliability. But as we all know, this is not and will not happen.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: Saisher on February 18, 2024, 02:46:07 PM

Till this day I didn't see any casino revealing the identity of their team, owners, employers and responsibles of the casino even though players are required to pass a KYC process for their identity, so I'm wondering have you ever thought about this too? and the reasons why most casinos are not doing this process?

It's not about double standard but if you're a casino operator are you comfortable posting your profile on your casino homepage, I know of someone in our place who run a horse racing betting station, he uses a dummy to run the operation, and the reasons are he don't want people looking at him when he goes to church, he doesn't parents cursing his name because their husbands lose their money in his betting station.
The casino can be considered a legit and licensed business but it's different from a traditional business, you will not be so proud to admit that you are running a gambling station.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on February 18, 2024, 02:59:21 PM
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It's like that, just as you say it , but the Identity for a casino or in a project that is valid and that has a future does have to leave its KYC, and that was one of the things that happened in projects on privacy currencies, because in one of 2017 one of the causes of his failure was not complying with Saying or giving the identity of his devs and that was Enough to not Include him in a level 1A exchange , then at that time the topic was not so active of KYC or were not so stressful, and even so that was one of the reasons for failure of a project that looked very promising, in this order of ideas it can be thought that privacy and anonymity cannot be one of the reasons for the which a person can actually fight, because it is a right that is Skewed , it is something that does not resist, it is something that has nothing to do with it, and if so, then it is a Shame because as time goes by, it will be more and more Unless there are things that can be done regarding our privacy, it will become a big problem.

If we don't think about that time when there wasn't so much drama with the KYC, well things were different, what everyone was most worried about was the issue of adoption, and that was what was most sought after, that the people willEnter projects or at least know bitcoin, but one thing that has been achieved is, the governments realized that there was money there, that they did not have access, but how can they be and become part of this? Regulations are easily invented with the "excuse" that they are only going to protect against scams, theft, among other things, and the worst thing is that there are many people who believe them.

I know that there have been Scammers , I know that there have been failed projects, but that is something that happens in any ecosystem that has to do with money, with fiat money is where many more problems and more cases of scams have Arisen , so we have to Understand what the origin of all this is.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: Assface16678 on February 18, 2024, 03:07:53 PM
I think it's very simple: casino owners, casino websites, or even in the gambling aspect, everything that has been done by a company will never ever state the identity of their developers, maybe the heads, the president, or something like that, which will most likely be the face of the team or the company. Imagine this being a developer, or the ones that have made the casino website through programming, etc. You don't want, as an owner, to flag your developers identities because they might be targeted and ordered to do something bad in order to sabotage things, and it is also very confidential for a company to show the identity of their staff, especially if the employee doesn't want to be known or flagged. Privacy, that's what it is. Being anonymous as a developer is one of the few rules on a casino website, as it is complex stuff.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: killerfrost on February 18, 2024, 03:14:30 PM
Those Scam Accusation threads do catch the obvious bad guys, but let's be real, negativity can sometimes be weaponized, and not everything gets the attention it deserves. Plus, they might focus on big scams, not the sneakier stuff. Sure, having trusted folks run campaigns rocks, but even the best buds can miss things. Relying solely on past good experiences can make us overlook potential problems. Plus, "reputation" can be tricky – it's all about perspective and limited interactions. Connections are cool, but gotta go deeper than just knowing someone. We need a system to check out these coins, like looking at the team's skills, their plan, how they talk to people, and if they're open about their finances.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: Orpichukwu on February 18, 2024, 03:25:04 PM
IMO, some online gambling sites are doing this for security reasons. The gambling industry is one of the biggest industries when it comes to money getting in and out. It will be difficult to protect that money if they are known to the public. This is just like the ICO's before in cryptocurrencies. They love being semi-anonymous but sometimes there are also those who are doing it for a different reason. Bad ones.
The kind of money that goes into the gambling industry and the kind of anger most gamblers do have for some certain casino are enough reasons for most of them to hide their identities. 
 
If many casino owners are known to the public, I believe most of them will definitely get some privacy breach or threat from some of their angry customers whom their business might have offended without even knowing.
 
Most gamblers, if they don't get certified with the result of their case, go ahead and pass some form of threat out of anger, and if they are to know and have access to the owners of the casino, you never can tell what kind of action they are going to take against them.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: Rufsilf on February 18, 2024, 03:38:12 PM
I believe that there are reasons why casino owners or developers are not named. It can be privacy, security, and anonymity. I know that there are a couple of casinos that are famous and owned by the same group of people and probably they don't want to look at how they are competing with each other.

       -     And whatever that reason is, I don't think it's that important to know that, right? Because the important thing is the services, and there are no issues happening on their platform from their users, who often play gambling on their platform.

In my opinion, knowing who developed or owns a casino gives everyone information about the company that owns the facility. Additionally, as customers, this openness can assist us in making well-informed decisions about whether or not to do business with that specific casino. Because it naturally increases our trust in the establishment if the developer or owner has a track record of moral behavior and satisfied customers. Right?
Also, we can speak with the person in charge directly if there are any problems or concerns with the casino that they have been operating. We can also make sure the casino is functioning within the law and regulations by knowing the ownership structure. In regards to their privacy, I believe it's critical to strike a balance between openness and the right to privacy. They must respect the laws they are required to follow, thus it is none of our business to judge if they truly want people to acknowledge them or they just wanted themselves  to operate anonymously.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: umbara ardian on February 18, 2024, 03:40:22 PM
While it's true some casino folks stay under the radar, it's not always about hiding from angry gamblers like in that crazy casino arson story you mentioned. Sure, there's always a chance some sore loser might go off the rails, but casinos usually have top-notch security to keep everyone safe. Anonymity might be an extra layer of protection, but it's not the whole story. The casino world is full of rules and licenses, and keeping things anonymous can simplify things for owners who operate across different countries. Plus, the financial side of things can get complex, and anonymity can help keep things under wraps, not necessarily because they're shady, but just because it's complicated.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: Volimack on February 19, 2024, 05:21:19 AM
Casinos want their transparency we should not think negatively about everything. The casino keeps the team anonymous to maintain their security. Owners and employees may keep everything confidential to customer service to maintain risk after various times of risk. My main task is to think things through calmly before participating. If you maintain your own security you will face less problems.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: pinggoki on February 19, 2024, 05:37:01 AM
Till this day I didn't see any casino revealing the identity of their team, owners, employers and responsibles of the casino even though players are required to pass a KYC process for their identity, so I'm wondering have you ever thought about this too? and the reasons why most casinos are not doing this process?
I have thought of this too but from what I've got from my pondering about this is that it's a matter of privacy for the team behind the casinos, I did consider too that with the revelation of their identity then we will be assured that we're in safe hands because they've trusted the players enough to reveal their identity but then it came back to me, physical business don't have to do this too so I assume that they're like that too and when they do a reveal of the team, it's out of their own volition. As to why they don't reveal their identity, the only reason I can think of is privacy for themselves but if you think about it, don't the people at least know who the hell founded the organization?


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: Kakmakr on February 19, 2024, 06:00:56 AM
I think casinos protect the privacy of their employees, so that they are safe from intimidation, bribes and also the target for players anger, when they lose money.

Let's also not forget about all the beggars and gambling addicts out there, they would make the lives of these employees a living hell, if they were doxed.  :o

There are also a lot of criminal syndicates that will target these employees to launder or steal money.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: Odusko on February 19, 2024, 06:15:58 AM
Those Scam Accusation threads do catch the obvious bad guys, but let's be real, negativity can sometimes be weaponized, and not everything gets the attention it deserves. Plus, they might focus on big scams, not the sneakier stuff. Sure, having trusted folks run campaigns rocks, but even the best buds can miss things. Relying solely on past good experiences can make us overlook potential problems. Plus, "reputation" can be tricky – it's all about perspective and limited interactions. Connections are cool, but gotta go deeper than just knowing someone. We need a system to check out these coins, like looking at the team's skills, their plan, how they talk to people, and if they're open about their finances.
That is sure relying on past glory may be tricky and deadly to all and the best way to deal with the issue of trust, and it potental affect is to constant get in touch and checking everything that needs to be checked to be sure at all time that things gave change with the team, because sometimes, there are changes and reorganization that affects the trust of the team, let say a previous team may be reputable and trusted but once the business changes hand, you as a user if you do not take time to notice that, you may belief that the casino is still under the previous trusted team but in reality, the new team may not value that trust or reputation and act in the shadiest manners.
Putting a mechanism to check the team's skills and effectiveness may help, and that is what the review site could have achieved but due to the high right of corruption, in the system, they have failed in that aspect and in the end given misleading information about those teams because they are bought already, but if we have an independent tool to check those team, it will be far better for us.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: stadus on February 19, 2024, 07:10:33 AM
I think casinos protect the privacy of their employees, so that they are safe from intimidation, bribes and also the target for players anger, when they lose money.

Let's also not forget about all the beggars and gambling addicts out there, they would make the lives of these employees a living hell, if they were doxed.  :o

You have a point there, mate. That's probably one of the things they consider in keeping their privacy. They may not make it public, but they are not hiding their real identity. If asked, they will not deny that they own or work in a casino. Besides, most gamblers now are doing it online, and for sure, they have a system that is running and cannot be manipulated by people within. These individuals threatening the lives of the owners can't do much, as casino owners are often wealthy, have security measures in place, and know that the law is on their side. So, it's just not very relevant to question why they don't make their names public; it's just the nature of how casinos operate.

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There are also a lot of criminal syndicates that will target these employees to launder or steal money.
In what way? and how would they do that? Employees have different functions, and them messing up the system to make crimes will put them in jail. The casino securities are now sophisticated, remember that we are in the computer era now, everything has a trace so it can be trace.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: Asuspawer09 on February 19, 2024, 07:16:26 AM
The identity of a casino's team is something we rarely across in our forum even though we have like hundreds of announcement topics in this section, promoting services, gambling games and tournaments. This act typically comes around professionalism and hospitality to provide a special customer service. Showing friendliness.and deep understanding of the games offered. Team members may also be a comfortable addition to players here.

Till this day I didn't see any casino revealing the identity of their team, owners, employers and responsibles of the casino even though players are required to pass a KYC process for their identity, so I'm wondering have you ever thought about this too? and the reasons why most casinos are not doing this process?

I mean they don't usually do this on physical casinos and even on gambling website casinos like some other cryptocurrency projects where they show full transparency on their team showing the founders, developers, etc. For sure there are shady things happening in the background most of the time that they don't really want us to know, probably for security they will not show this kind of information to the public. Probably employees are probably just from other countries that is just hired for online work.

It wouldn't really matter I guess as long as they have great services on the casino or on the gambling website as long as they are doing the job, and everyone can play on it with minimal issues it is already good to go in my opinion. Personally, I would play on a gambling casino website as long as it is trusted and the team doesn't really matter, I also want to try other gambling websites as long as it is not rigs or scams.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: Z390 on February 19, 2024, 07:26:28 AM
To invest is different from to gamble, a new project with no visible team members can be a sign of red flag because you want to invest in the project which is a long term thing to do, as for a casino, it's a day something, you place bet and you win and you click withdraw, team or not team reputation is all you need, to be able to make your first deposit on the platform.

If you plan to hold a token for many months or few years you sure need to know about the team, it will increase your confident in the project, but you don't need to do same with a casino, just check if they are active and if they have good reputation since they have been in operation, that's all.

Casino team identity isn't necessary, unless the law ask them to start doing so, they are regulated, or make sure they are, this is why you must avoid untegulated casinos, regulated casinos have passed the requirements to run and the identity you seek for is in the hands of the law already, don't stress yourself.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: Wexnident on February 19, 2024, 07:45:27 AM
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Cause it's done internally? It's the same idea as KYC technically since casinos don't technically reveal our identities to others no? Same thing, they don't reveal the identities of their employees to others. Owners? Maybe. But employees? They're probably not paid enough to give enough of a damn lmao.

It also doesn't help that some people can get really, really emotional. I imagine someone just doxxing any employees, visiting them irl and harassing them cause the casino they're working on "scammed" them of their money. Kinda extreme, but hey, it can happen.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: taufik123 on February 19, 2024, 07:59:24 AM
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Casino team identity isn't necessary, unless the law ask them to start doing so, they are regulated, or make sure they are, this is why you must avoid untegulated casinos, regulated casinos have passed the requirements to run and the identity you seek for is in the hands of the law already, don't stress yourself.
Only the identity of the owner may be required by the authorities so that the Casino becomes legal and obtains a License.
Employees who are contracted to work (usually some programmers) will not share their identities.
They sometimes only work from home and work part-time.

Ever seen some documentation about Online casinos that are only managed by a few people but have employees all over the world working from their respective homes.
Only a central server connects them.

If the government asks for all employee identities it seems too much because, this is not a business that the public can notice.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: retreat on February 19, 2024, 08:24:02 AM
I feel that they do that to protect their privacy to prevent bad things from happening to them. You know that the gambling industry is quite an unhealthy business and there are risks that can be borne by top officials or workers when people find out their identities. It is possible that they will receive threats, terror, harassment, or other unwanted actions which will disturb them, and therefore they prefer to hide their identity.
It is true that this is a concern for gamblers, because how can they impose KYC on their users, while they themselves do not reveal their identity. However, as long as the casino complies with regulations, I feel that there is no particular need for them to be able to reveal their identity to their users.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: FinePoine0 on February 19, 2024, 08:26:13 AM
No matter we gamble on any website we never think about them, we think about whether we are getting the right bonuses and gambling bets. If it is correct then we will be ready to gamble there and if there is any wrong address or mismatch as team formation information then we will not gamble there. I am not qualified to ask if they have done KYC and if the license is correct because we can participate there minimum one member, just for gambling.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: michellee on February 19, 2024, 10:30:51 AM
We will not know the identity of the casino team and owner. We only gamble at casinos that we know are trusted casinos and can provide satisfaction to their members. We don't need to know anything else as long as the casino can provide that.

They will not reveal who they are to the public. We also don't need to find out who they are. After all, we use the casino to gamble just for fun. There is no desire to spend a lot of money because for us, gambling is entertainment.

We may only know the name of the support service that answers our questions about the casino. But we still won't know who owns the casino unless the casino owner introduces himself to the public. That is their secret and we must be able to understand it.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: KiaKia on February 19, 2024, 11:02:40 AM
There will never come a day where casinos will have to pass any form of KYC because they have gotten their pass already, to start running the business by the government, that's all, they don't need to prove anything to their customers again.

Good customer service and good rep is enough, I would use any casino that have these two, most are not perfect but these are the most important for me, good reputation consist of fast deposits and withdraw at any given time, and others.

It's the customers that want to use the online casino that need to pass KYC not the team, I don't need to explain why we need to pass KYC again and again, but the team are free, customers only need to choose a licensed casino for their gambling activities and they are good.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: tbterryboy on February 20, 2024, 06:03:23 PM
If they have an option to not disclose their personal identity, why they need to publicize it to everyone else? ???

When you want to open a banks account, the banks' employees will ask you to submit your ID card and other personal information, do you ask their identity? I bet you not.

I think it's a stupid question, if you don't comfortable or don't like to submit KYC without know the owner's identity, don't gamble on that casino.
A normal online casino don't usually do that but I already saw a couple of casinos whom you can see their staffs picture, know their real name and even addresses. They even post it publicly in their forum. I'm referring to Primedice and Stake casino here. A crypto casino project that has their own token can also do this just like most of the crypto projects.

I think this is to gain the people's confidence and they hope to get more investors. As for the bank employees, there is no need for us to ask their ID's because they are already wearing it. If not, it may be inappropriate to ask them about it. We should respect their privacy and just find a platform which teams are already doxxed.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: southerngentuk on February 20, 2024, 06:23:21 PM
Some folks say knowin' the names and faces behind the scenes builds trust, like playin' poker with friends instead of strangers. It's like havin' a celebrity chef cook your meal – adds a layer of cool, right? Plus, it holds them accountable, keeps things fair, kinda like playin' under a spotlight.

But others say chill, their privacy matters too. Imagine some angry dude who lost big bucks comin' after them! Plus, revealin' their secrets is like givin' away the recipe to their special sauce – not good for business. And let's be real, the most important thing is you havin' a fun and safe time, right? Who's dealin' the cards ain't the main course.

So, what's the verdict? Well, it ain't black and white. Casinos can be transparent without exposin' everyone's personal info. Think of it like showin' the ingredients on a menu, not the chef's home address. They can also prove they're on the up-and-up by followin' the rules and treatin' players right. And hey, open communication is always a good thing – players should feel comfy askin' questions and gettin' answers.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: |MINER| on February 20, 2024, 07:14:47 PM
Actually I won't say the point are value less because in current situation most of the new arrival Casinos became scammers at the end of day. And they always hide their Identity. But we have seen lots of well reputable casinos those owners revealing them. But I think who don't wanna reveal their  identity we shouldn't shake on that matter. Because not all casinos are scammers who are hiding their identity. Although our bitcoin inventor identity was also hidden.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: Lanatsa on February 20, 2024, 07:38:36 PM
The identity of a casino's team is something we rarely across in our forum even though we have like hundreds of announcement topics in this section, promoting services, gambling games and tournaments. This act typically comes around professionalism and hospitality to provide a special customer service. Showing friendliness.and deep understanding of the games offered. Team members may also be a comfortable addition to players here.

Till this day I didn't see any casino revealing the identity of their team, owners, employers and responsibles of the casino even though players are required to pass a KYC process for their identity, so I'm wondering have you ever thought about this too? and the reasons why most casinos are not doing this process?

I dont have any thoughts such as this on which we do know that we are dealing on crypto space on which it would really be understandable that it wont really be necessary i guess or something that you would really be mindful about. If its doxxed or known then its better but for sure gamblers wont really be putting up that much attention such as this on which we know that everything could really be that totally anonymous on this space. If ever that one comes or would really be needed up to have that KYC to gamble then they would really be looking for another place on which they would really be able to do so without submitting their
personal identifications on which it would really be that somewhat understandable i should say.

Platforms online or casinos would be no surprise that they would really be needing up to go with regulations or laws for them to continue their business and also gamblers
would really be that somewhat confident when they are really that able to see on having those licenses too.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: o48o on February 20, 2024, 08:38:35 PM
The identity of a casino's team is something we rarely across in our forum even though we have like hundreds of announcement topics in this section, promoting services, gambling games and tournaments. This act typically comes around professionalism and hospitality to provide a special customer service. Showing friendliness.and deep understanding of the games offered. Team members may also be a comfortable addition to players here.

Till this day I didn't see any casino revealing the identity of their team, owners, employers and responsibles of the casino even though players are required to pass a KYC process for their identity, so I'm wondering have you ever thought about this too? and the reasons why most casinos are not doing this process?
Just avoid such anon casinos. Legit casino owners have at least some social media presence, if not full names. They don't need to have listed team members on the web page, but as they are proud for their casinos, there's no need to hide the CEO either. Its not like with ICOs where we need to do deep research of a new system. Casinos are pretty straight forward businesses, so all we need is sense of accountability. So public CEO is enough.

While i understand why some CEOs would like to stay away from public eye, imho they chose wrong profession if they think they can avoid it, or at least wrong position in the company.

Then there are companies like Betfury, that keep the CEO hidden but are naming admins in chats as team members for example, which is just deceptive misdirection. Seemingly giving something without giving anything of value.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: livingfree on February 20, 2024, 08:48:15 PM
I have never thought of that. What is important to me is on how they help their customers when there are concerns and how they're giving us the help that we need and deserve.

So, I don't have to know who's behind that chat support or zendesk as long as the approach to me is that they're friendly and helpful, that's already a thumbs up and that's the kind of customer service and experience that I am wanting.

And that's one big factor that many of us considers from using a casino.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: Hispo on February 20, 2024, 09:05:03 PM
Honestly, it has never crossed my mind on whether some of the casinos I have used have made the identities of those who are behind the management of the service public. To me as long as the casino manages to keep a spotless track record and good customer support it was enough for me not to overthink about the managers and their identity.
Those who are part of the team probably keep their identity hidden for the sake of their personal security, however, that approach of keeping such information hidden could be used by shady casinos to get away with scams and devious practices.

Would I feel safer if I knew the identify of those behind the casino? Perhaps, but not much, in this digital era it has become very easy to fake one's identity, to the point of not knowing whether someone is really the manager of the casino or not. That is why a track record and reputation is more important than having information on people behind the casino.
A special case would be whether the management of the casino changes hands, there it would be very good to be notified.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: Yogee on February 20, 2024, 09:27:30 PM
Security as others have said many times and maybe also convenience. Most of the rich people who prefer privacy probably prefer walking around without personal bodyguards following them around. They can enter coffee shops or any restaurants alone like a common citizen and be just fine.

I don't ask who the owner of the shop is when I buy items from them so I also have no problem not knowing the owners of online casinos I play.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: Quidat on February 20, 2024, 10:41:13 PM
I have never thought of that. What is important to me is on how they help their customers when there are concerns and how they're giving us the help that we need and deserve.

So, I don't have to know who's behind that chat support or zendesk as long as the approach to me is that they're friendly and helpful, that's already a thumbs up and that's the kind of customer service and experience that I am wanting.

And that's one big factor that many of us considers from using a casino.
Seamless users experience is the most important thing i should say on which gamblers wont really be thinking about those teams identity or informations.
What matters is;

1. Games offered
2. Instant withdrawal
3. Good site design and animation
4. Good and active support
5. NO KYC

If all of these things are met, then knowing teams identity would really be that least concern.
If you are really that mindful or does really want to know then you could always ask them out, but i highly doubt that they would really be telling you completely about those
details on which these arent things that commonly exposed.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: dothebeats on February 20, 2024, 11:53:23 PM
Just like other huge companies, I don't think it's necessary to know who's who in the organizational hierarchy of a casinos except for its executives. The low-ranking employees don't need to have themselves exposed as they are doing what the executives ordered. At the end of the day, should a scam arise, people will be looking for the high-ranking officials to be put behind bars and not those underlings who are only following orders.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: danherbias07 on February 21, 2024, 04:42:11 AM
Just like other huge companies, I don't think it's necessary to know who's who in the organizational hierarchy of a casinos except for its executives. The low-ranking employees don't need to have themselves exposed as they are doing what the executives ordered. At the end of the day, should a scam arise, people will be looking for the high-ranking officials to be put behind bars and not those underlings who are only following orders.
I agree with that. Just like what Stake.com is doing. Eddie is out there in the frontlines and his face is being seen all the time. The chat moderators, team management, marketers, and others within their staff don't really need to show their faces to the public and it's for their own security too, or for the business. It avoids blackmail or other evil intent that could be thought of by people who are planning something bad on the online gambling site.
I mean, I don't think it's mandatory that a whole team will have to put their faces into the public. Even the ICOs before only put the names and photos of the developer and his team and some even don't do that and yet investors are still flocking in just because of one hype. How come they could be anonymous and still get buyers of their project? And yet gambling behind the scenes teams should also go through KYC.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: SeaCoinCollector. on February 21, 2024, 05:31:23 AM
Due to safety and privacy concerns, casinos do not reveal the identities of their staff. By doing this, workers are protected from harassment and lower the chance of an insider threat. By keeping things formal and preventing interruptions from customers, anonymity is very helpful.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: kotajikikox on February 21, 2024, 06:05:56 AM
The identity of a casino's team is something we rarely across in our forum even though we have like hundreds of announcement topics in this section, promoting services, gambling games and tournaments. This act typically comes around professionalism and hospitality to provide a special customer service. Showing friendliness.and deep understanding of the games offered. Team members may also be a comfortable addition to players here.

Till this day I didn't see any casino revealing the identity of their team, owners, employers and responsibles of the casino even though players are required to pass a KYC process for their identity, so I'm wondering have you ever thought about this too? and the reasons why most casinos are not doing this process?
There are several casinos that have revealed the Owners if not the whole team like Bitvest in which Owned by @lightlord and there are others that I just forget those names.
But for me personally ? all casinos must declared their team and Owners because if ever there are scams and related cases happens as we are talking about huge money here? then we can run after them and not like now that victims cannot even identify whom to chase when they are being scammed .


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: Strongkored on February 21, 2024, 07:08:39 AM
Till this day I didn't see any casino revealing the identity of their team, owners, employers and responsibles of the casino even though players are required to pass a KYC process for their identity, so I'm wondering have you ever thought about this too? and the reasons why most casinos are not doing this process?
No, I never thought about that because what players are concerned about is how the casino treats its players, how they give bonuses and any complaints that arise so knowing the identity of the casino owner is not something that is important for players to know, and also online casinos when it has a license so that is enough to judge that they are serious about the business they are building.
But did you know that there is one casino on this forum that is very active in holding contests in games and rounds boards and one of the prizes is meeting the casino owner, this casino is also one of the sponsors for a football club in England which is currently playing in the championship division.
So it's not that casino owners don't want to open up about their identity, it's just not an obligation and players don't really care about it, and connecting it with KYC doesn't seem like the right thing to do.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: Outhue on February 21, 2024, 11:43:21 AM
It's only the government of a country that deserves to ask a casino for identity and license, not the gamblers, this is the first time I would hear such from a gambler, most are only concerned about how they will be treated by the customer care and how lucky they can get.

If you are using a popular online casino you won't need to worry about identification, it doesn't matter to gamblers, like I said, only the government agencies have the right.

Do you even know that it's unsafe for casino team members to reveal themselves to the public? A place where people come to try their luck and lose some money?what if they got angry and decide to take some actions against the team members? Or you think it's not possible? What if a gambler is a triad member? Will you know? Think.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: robelneo on February 21, 2024, 04:54:28 PM
The identity of a casino's team is something we rarely across in our forum even though we have like hundreds of announcement topics in this section, promoting services, gambling games and tournaments. This act typically comes around professionalism and hospitality to provide a special customer service. Showing friendliness.and deep understanding of the games offered. Team members may also be a comfortable addition to players here.

Till this day I didn't see any casino revealing the identity of their team, owners, employers and responsibles of the casino even though players are required to pass a KYC process for their identity, so I'm wondering have you ever thought about this too? and the reasons why most casinos are not doing this process?

There's no advantage in showing or posting their identity and it will put their reputation and their security at risk there are gamblers who are not satisfied with the results they've gotten that they will target these owners since they are exposed, they can despise them insult them and post their identity online and hire people to target them, for their safety and those of their love ones its better for the owners of casinos to not reveal their identity.

A gambling platform is categorized by some people as a place for vice and a root of addiction, if people know the identity of the owners they can target them so a casino should just be represented by their domain name.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: PX-Z on February 21, 2024, 05:12:07 PM
Till this day I didn't see any casino revealing the identity of their team, owners, employers and responsibles of the casino even though players are required to pass a KYC process for their identity, so I'm wondering have you ever thought about this too? and the reasons why most casinos are not doing this process?
Good question, but i think their information is irrelevant to its users especially those online casino. All online casino need to do is have a licensed (well, optional), responsive support, community awareness and a working platform, that's for them to be relevant. Except for land-based casinos, since they are run by tycoons and business man known in the country or in the area, and obviously you will personally see their staff when you visits the area. While online is different from that due to the obvious reasons, it's virtual.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: blckhawk on February 21, 2024, 05:33:37 PM
I like the idea of them revealing their identity but if you think about it, there's the matter of personal privacy that this people really need to take care no matter, these casinos that you want the team behind to reveal their faces are not a big casino website compared to some and so they want to make sure that they can still keep that part. I'm all in favor of revealing the identity but we can't force then to do it anyway, the team should be the one to willingly do it.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: ChiBitCTy on February 21, 2024, 05:47:09 PM
The identity of a casino's team is something we rarely across in our forum even though we have like hundreds of announcement topics in this section, promoting services, gambling games and tournaments. This act typically comes around professionalism and hospitality to provide a special customer service. Showing friendliness.and deep understanding of the games offered. Team members may also be a comfortable addition to players here.

Till this day I didn't see any casino revealing the identity of their team, owners, employers and responsibles of the casino even though players are required to pass a KYC process for their identity, so I'm wondering have you ever thought about this too? and the reasons why most casinos are not doing this process?

This is an interesting topic.  This makes me wonder if big in person Casinos such as the Bellagio in Las Vegas have their team members either listed out somewhere on their website, or perhaps there's photos somewhere in the building showing whom the main people are.

I'm not sure even if the casino team members were listed out that it would make much difference to me personally.  This sort of info could real easily be faked.  Transparency however is a great thing.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: madnessteat on February 21, 2024, 05:54:07 PM
I like the idea of them revealing their identity but if you think about it, there's the matter of personal privacy that this people really need to take care no matter, these casinos that you want the team behind to reveal their faces are not a big casino website compared to some and so they want to make sure that they can still keep that part. I'm all in favor of revealing the identity but we can't force then to do it anyway, the team should be the one to willingly do it.

No one wants to disclose their personal data. At least the casino owners, at least the programmers, at least the cleaner, mopping the floors in the institution because the gambling industry is filled with inadequate people who after another loss so and seek to beat the face of someone who is somehow connected with the casino.

I perfectly understand these people, because privacy is only our choice and those who want peace of mind in life in every possible way trying to maintain confidentiality. This is quite normal practice.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: fullhdpixel on February 21, 2024, 06:23:23 PM
I have never thought of that. What is important to me is on how they help their customers when there are concerns and how they're giving us the help that we need and deserve.

So, I don't have to know who's behind that chat support or zendesk as long as the approach to me is that they're friendly and helpful, that's already a thumbs up and that's the kind of customer service and experience that I am wanting.

And that's one big factor that many of us considers from using a casino.
That's what most gamblers see when they join a platform, they first check if the platform is reputable and then they want good services out of which customer service is the priority because a customer anywhere would want to have complete attention when it's needed and the issues discussed should be listened to and resolved as quickly as possible which is only what makes a customer stay because if a customer doesn't get good customer service, they will not keep using the services anymore.

So when it comes to casino platforms, people often don't care about the team managing the platform, who the owner is, who is managing the support team, etc.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: passwordnow on February 21, 2024, 06:29:21 PM
Till this day I didn't see any casino revealing the identity of their team, owners, employers and responsibles of the casino even though players are required to pass a KYC process for their identity, so I'm wondering have you ever thought about this too? and the reasons why most casinos are not doing this process?
Many of the reputable casinos here have their own identities, yes, the CEOs and they're already exposed and became public figures and that's why knowing them is already enough to know if a casino is reputable or not. But to the ones who's starting out, it's up to the owners of it if they think revealing their identities is going to help them have more confidence and trust from their gamblers. Because it somehow gives the idea on what type of management the casino has based on the owner.

As a user of them, if something is wrong, then that's the time that a user has to comply if you're required to do so. But us, if they don't know any about us or about team, it won't matter as long as you've been with them and have experience using them for a long time having no trouble at all. But if that's a big requirement that shall fill your satisfaction, it's up on how you would address that to prove your confidence with them and each of us have a different point of view regarding this.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: asyakashi on February 21, 2024, 06:37:00 PM
The team is rarely exposed publicly because of their security status, because many countries prohibit gambling, but they collect taxes secretly 😁, and besides, we can see the trustworthiness of casinos directly from their user reviews, but still be careful with the reviews created by bots


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: Antotena on February 21, 2024, 06:52:28 PM
The identity of a casino's team is something we rarely across in our forum even though we have like hundreds of announcement topics in this section, promoting services, gambling games and tournaments. This act typically comes around professionalism and hospitality to provide a special customer service. Showing friendliness.and deep understanding of the games offered. Team members may also be a comfortable addition to players here.

Till this day I didn't see any casino revealing the identity of their team, owners, employers and responsibles of the casino even though players are required to pass a KYC process for their identity, so I'm wondering have you ever thought about this too? and the reasons why most casinos are not doing this process?

I noticed that as well. I think most of the casino we have in this forum are crypto related and because some of them are just crypto, they don't like to reveal their identity because of regulations that do come from other countries and they don't want to be drag for running a company that is not licensed to operate in some particular areas, their identity been public can make them been on blacklist and wanted.

Another reason could also be because they accept some coins and withdrawals, it can put them at risk from government, we all know that casinos are just company offering gambling service for people, they have no idea about which coin is clean and which is not, it will be dangerous for them to reveal their identity when the government can say they should return a particular coins and also they could be label for money laundering, it's better to stay anonymous and be trustworthy just like many of them are doing here.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: xLays on February 21, 2024, 07:04:55 PM
The identity of a casino's team is something we rarely across in our forum even though we have like hundreds of announcement topics in this section, promoting services, gambling games and tournaments. This act typically comes around professionalism and hospitality to provide a special customer service. Showing friendliness.and deep understanding of the games offered. Team members may also be a comfortable addition to players here.

Till this day I didn't see any casino revealing the identity of their team, owners, employers and responsibles of the casino even though players are required to pass a KYC process for their identity, so I'm wondering have you ever thought about this too? and the reasons why most casinos are not doing this process?
This is the reason why I love stake.com and Eddie. As a player I appreciate the transparency and approach of stake.com. Transparency can build trust and positive relationship between players.

For sure casinos have different reasons for not revealing their team members identities, like privacy, security or maintaining a professional image. Some might choose transparency and promote their team, while others prefer privacy. It depends on each casino's policies and priorities. But it's really kinda unfair that we didn't know their identity an they know us.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: DubemIfedigbo001 on February 21, 2024, 07:13:00 PM
I think this is also for their security.

While I understand that having a designated team members in a certain project (e.g. ANN threads, startup token projects, etc.) are essential in order to confirm the authenticity of their goals and plans, in a gambling casino, it is somehow irrelevant. What separates a genuine casino from a scam one is the former's representation of itself and years of service with continued trust by establishing their reputation.

Lastly I also want to point out that having a team member's profile in an online casino can be quite difficult especially if we are talking about the nature of their project. Naturally, a person may feel devastated if they lost on their games or if they staked hundreds to thousands of $$$ worth of crypto and they may channel such rage and emotion into looking for the identities of the team members.

In conclusion, it may indeed compromise the safety of the team members.

Definitely, its a security threat to display the real identities of casino team, transfer of aggression is always inevitable in the moments of terrible loss on the side of a gambler and the casino rep might be in great danger as some mad gamblers might conclude that the casino intentionally make them loose and will likely take their revenge on any member of casino team available.

People might even go to the extent of asking for cheats from the team member and noncompliance might mean harm to them, even if they don't have any,

Lastly, no matter how transparent a casino its with their dealings with their clients, revealing the identities of their team members is not ideal at all and should never be encouraged.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: Ojima-ojo on February 21, 2024, 07:17:26 PM
The identity of a casino's team is something we rarely across in our forum even though we have like hundreds of announcement topics in this section, promoting services, gambling games and tournaments. This act typically comes around professionalism and hospitality to provide a special customer service. Showing friendliness.and deep understanding of the games offered. Team members may also be a comfortable addition to players here.

Till this day I didn't see any casino revealing the identity of their team, owners, employers and responsibles of the casino even though players are required to pass a KYC process for their identity, so I'm wondering have you ever thought about this too? and the reasons why most casinos are not doing this process?
This is the reason why I love stake.com and Eddie. As a player I appreciate the transparency and approach of stake.com. Transparency can build trust and positive relationship between players.

For sure casinos have different reasons for not revealing their team members identities, like privacy, security, or maintaining a professional image. Some might choose transparency and promote their team, while others prefer privacy. It depends on each casino's policies and priorities. But it's really kinda unfair that we didn't know their identity and they know us.
In the world of many anonymous casino operators, having the well wither to know some few of them is worth commending such as Eddie of Stake whom someone mentioned,  have read alot about the CEO and how public he is about his business because as the owner of one of the world largest casino, he has alot of security threat 8f and when he becomes publicly but still Eddie manage to safe guide himself all the while by being very openly interacting with the community and for that, we have to commend him for that.


But the ultimate question is of what use is knowing the identity of the casino owner if the casino does not violate any of the operational rules and regulations guiding their operation and customers' relation?


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: livingfree on February 21, 2024, 11:11:34 PM
I have never thought of that. What is important to me is on how they help their customers when there are concerns and how they're giving us the help that we need and deserve.

So, I don't have to know who's behind that chat support or zendesk as long as the approach to me is that they're friendly and helpful, that's already a thumbs up and that's the kind of customer service and experience that I am wanting.

And that's one big factor that many of us considers from using a casino.
Seamless users experience is the most important thing i should say on which gamblers wont really be thinking about those teams identity or informations.
What matters is;

1. Games offered
2. Instant withdrawal
3. Good site design and animation
4. Good and active support
5. NO KYC

If all of these things are met, then knowing teams identity would really be that least concern.
If you are really that mindful or does really want to know then you could always ask them out, but i highly doubt that they would really be telling you completely about those
details on which these arent things that commonly exposed.
And that's why I don't mind knowing who are behind those casinos or with the support group. Because typically, the owner is known from these matters as they need to verify that they own it when there are media that are asking them for certain issues.

I do agree about those matters and factors that you've mentioned. They're part of the important things that a gambler should know but if it's very important to a gambler to know behind those team support or even the owner, you spend your time knowing them.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: carlfebz2 on February 23, 2024, 07:36:31 PM
And that's why I don't mind knowing who are behind those casinos or with the support group. Because typically, the owner is known from these matters as they need to verify that they own it when there are media that are asking them for certain issues.

I do agree about those matters and factors that you've mentioned. They're part of the important things that a gambler should know but if it's very important to a gambler to know behind those team support or even the owner, you spend your time knowing them.
Im with the comment above that it wont really be that matter much but there are really indeed people who do really that liking on knowing on everything even if it means on knowing the people behind
on the platforms or sites that they are playing on with. Some who are really just that recently comes in are those people who do just simply choose up with those popular sites which have been
trusted by many. Dont know if they are aware of their owners name or simply anonymous. What matter most is that they do pay and for sure this is what most people that do mind much when it comes
to these situations on where they will really be always giving importance about legit sites that they are dealing with and doesnt matter whether identity is exposed or not.


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: Unbunplease on February 23, 2024, 08:07:40 PM
Im with the comment above that it wont really be that matter much but there are really indeed people who do really that liking on knowing on everything even if it means on knowing the people behind
on the platforms or sites that they are playing on with. Some who are really just that recently comes in are those people who do just simply choose up with those popular sites which have been
trusted by many. Dont know if they are aware of their owners name or simply anonymous. What matter most is that they do pay and for sure this is what most people that do mind much when it comes
to these situations on where they will really be always giving importance about legit sites that they are dealing with and doesnt matter whether identity is exposed or not.

Does it make sense to know the names of the casino owners and their team. In principle, if everything happens honestly, there is no special need for it. If the withdrawal and deposit of funds is not delayed, the gameplay is smooth - then there are no problems. It's one thing to know the names behind the project, and quite another to know the names behind the casino. In fact, most casinos are somewhat similar to each other in some ways


Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: iv4n on February 23, 2024, 08:23:08 PM
But the ultimate question is of what use is knowing the identity of the casino owner if the casino does not violate any of the operational rules and regulations guiding their operation and customers' relation?

And why do we need to pass the KYC process if we don't violate any rules and regulations, in simple words why do we need KYC if we are fair players?

I don't need to know the owner's identity, but I guess someone needs to know that... after all, they are working with money, huge money, and if something bad happens who will be responsible for that? We have had several cases where the casino just disappears with the user's funds.

Generally, I don't like KYC and I avoid it whenever it's possible, but in the end, trust should be a two-way street, if we (players) need to verify I think that the casino owners should also be verified.



Title: Re: Casinos team identity
Post by: boyptc on February 23, 2024, 08:26:59 PM
Does it make sense to know the names of the casino owners and their team. In principle, if everything happens honestly, there is no special need for it. If the withdrawal and deposit of funds is not delayed, the gameplay is smooth - then there are no problems. It's one thing to know the names behind the project, and quite another to know the names behind the casino. In fact, most casinos are somewhat similar to each other in some ways
I agree.

If everything is smooth especially in withdrawals, there's no need to know this type of detail. Because what they need to do to gain people's trust is to be a good casino with a smooth operation having to less to no complaints at all although this is impossible.

The impression of having a good service coming from a customer is what determines them to be a good casino. And we wouldn't be bothered to know who are behind it.