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Title: The administration of bitcointalk.
Post by: Nangiconference on March 18, 2024, 10:10:30 PM
Being a member of the forum for the time past. I tried to ascertain the history of the forum as i doubt the administration of the forum. How come the creator is not active and did  not stay long yet his absence did not imply on the forum. The question is, could he be that he delegated authority and assigned duties to some people before his departure?  Because when I tired to investigate I also discovered that satoshi was not the founder of the forum rather Sirius.
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Sirius

We have a different people who are administrators and moderators who possess the power to do and undo in terms of
banning  a member
Deleting other people's post
Moving post of others to other boards
Closing reply to a thread
Whitelisting a member
And lots more.

Satoshi Nakamoto remained active in the development of Bitcoin until late 2010, after which he handed over management of the project to Gavin Andresen and disappeared, leaving behind many unresolved questions about his identity and motives

How come the name of Gavin Andersen is not seen anywhere as thus; Cyrus, theymos, Sirius which we are seeing everywhere. Could these people be co-founders? I doubt.
From my research

SIRIUS
 joined the forum on
January 16, 2013, 07:30:36 PM

CYRUS
 also joined January 16, 2013, 07:30:36 PM
On the other hand,
While satoshi started the forum on
November 19, 2009, 07:12:39 PM
And was active last on
December 13, 2010, 04:45:41 PM
By this findings it is evident that the administrators and moderators running the forum did not even meet the founder in the group
If not for THEYMOS
who joined the forum  February 09, 2010, 12:49:38 AM. The same year satoshi disappeared.
I need structural explanation as to kill my inquisity.


Title: Re: The administration of bitcointalk.
Post by: odolvlobo on March 18, 2024, 10:39:56 PM
The original forum was on sourceforge.net. It was replaced by a forum on bitcoin.org that I believe was initially set up by satoshi and eventually administered by sirius. That forum with all of its contents was later moved to bitcointalk.org and administration was taken over by theymos. Note that satoshi left before the creation of the bitcointalk forum and so never actually posted here.

I think that summary is mostly accurate. Some early history of the forums are documented in emails between satoshi and sirius here: https://mmalmi.github.io/satoshi/


Title: Re: The administration of bitcointalk.
Post by: harapan on March 19, 2024, 12:00:38 AM
Satoshi could be gone,but he's not forgotten...!!
I still try to figure out why bitcoin enjoys this factor called"Anonymity".I think if satoshi was or he's around,he'll have to answer to many calls from mediahouses,journalists and many other talkstream channels.

Satoshi would be too pressured with the critics and crisis that'll eventually commence in the society.
Bitcoin's creator,Satoshi Nakamoto identity and location  remains undiscoverable and untraceable.Although the guy remains an unknown figure,but his ideas and intentions to create/invent bitcoin remains a lasting development in the financial technology.

Bitcointalk is the ideal and absolute guide for most bitcoin users.It's an open source of network for information and educational system.
Bitcointalk is a public forum where blockchain enthusiasts, bitcoin developers,bitcoin users and crypto investors discuss topics about Bitcoin,cryptocurrencies,and blockchain in general.

Bitcointalk has greatly contributed to the growth and stability of the financial technology in particular,here in bitcointalk,it accommodates first timers and experts both young and old,it creates from for learning,improvement and knowledgeable personal contribution for the forum and members at large.

Bitcointalk,is indeed a place to be,its a place where the crypto industry has gained so much popularity,dominance and reputation.it has promoted and birthed so many other crypto channels today.


Title: Re: The administration of bitcointalk.
Post by: nutildah on March 19, 2024, 02:09:36 AM
Note that satoshi left before the creation of the bitcointalk forum and so never actually posted here.

Its never actually been named the "Bitcointalk Forum." There is "Bitcointalk", which references the URL to which the transition occurred from bitcoin.org, and the "Bitcoin Forum," which has always been the name of the forum, both pre- and post-migration.

Nobody is claiming that satoshi posted on "Bitcointalk", but he did post on the "Bitcoin Forum", which is the same name, same layout, same content (minus more recently-added boards), and same forum as this one since 2009.

https://web.archive.org/web/20100814184008/https://www.bitcoin.org/smf/index.php?topic=191.0
https://talkimg.com/images/2024/03/19/Jvkbj.png

Saying "satoshi never posted on Bitcointalk" is just a way for the CSW camp to interject confusion unnecessarily, and the entire talking point should be put to rest as it has always been a manufactured and pointless controversy.


Title: Re: The administration of bitcointalk.
Post by: tranthidung on March 19, 2024, 02:16:23 AM
  • Bitcointalk's important historic changes (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5186820.0)
  • [LIST] Forum's admins/ global moderators/ staffs (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5206428.0)

You will see Gavin Andresen there.

Information about forum administration changes too, more than the following quote.

It's surprising how well-documented history can become totally forgotten... Satoshi created the forum on Nov 22, 2009, and was head administrator until almost 2011. Then Sirius was head administrator until 2012, which is when I took over.

Cobra also owns the bitcointalk.org domain name. I consider the forum to be basically owned by or at least dedicated to the Bitcoin community, though; I don't call anyone an owner of the forum.

That wiki article is kind of terrible...

This thread is not about Bitcoin, but about Bitcointalk, the forum, so please move it to Meta board.


Title: Re: The administration of bitcointalk.
Post by: FatFork on March 19, 2024, 09:53:11 AM
Satoshi Nakamoto remained active in the development of Bitcoin until late 2010,

That's not entirely true. According to the Satoshi-Sirius emails (https://mmalmi.github.io/satoshi/), satoshi was active in Bitcoin development at least until February 2011, although he was no longer active on the forum.

after which he handed over management of the project to Gavin Andresen and disappeared,...

No.

theymos (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=35) was promoted as one of admins in 2011 together with Gavin Andersen (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=224) and sirius (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=4)

How come the name of Gavin Andersen is not seen anywhere

What do you mean? You can find his user profile here: Gavin Andersen (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=224)

From my research

SIRIUS
 joined the forum on
January 16, 2013, 07:30:36 PM

No. Sirius (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=4) joined this version of the forum on November 20, 2009, but he was active even before that on the sourceforge.net forum.

CYRUS
 also joined January 16, 2013, 07:30:36 PM

That's right. I believe Cyrus is the latest addition to the admin staff, probably promoted by theymos.

By this findings it is evident that the administrators and moderators running the forum did not even meet the founder in the group

That's not true.


Title: Re: The administration of bitcointalk.
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on March 19, 2024, 10:39:17 AM
Being a member of the forum for the time past. I tried to ascertain the history of the forum as i doubt the administration of the forum. How come the creator is not active and did  not stay long yet his absence did not imply on the forum.

Because you're yet to know that his mission is already accomplished which is to see that Bitcoin stays and remain in serving for every of it's purpose why he had created it, what the people want is bitcoin and not Satoshi, if you create as many  cars and release them to the people, must you always be around them all before people can buy and use them?.

The question is, could he be that he delegated authority and assigned duties to some people before his departure? 

Yes, at least I know of two admin to this forum, Theymos and Cyrus

Because when I tired to investigate I also discovered that satoshi was not the founder of the forum rather Sirius.
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Sirius

Satoshi is the creator and founder to this forum and Bitcoin.


We have a different people who are administrators and moderators who possess the power to do and undo in terms of
banning  a member
Deleting other people's post
Moving post of others to other boards
Closing reply to a thread
Whitelisting a member
And lots more.

Maybe you will have to learn about the other ranks and positions here on bitcointalk, the order starts in hierarchy like this.

Admin
Staff
Moderators

Other functions like whitelisting can be done by some members given the right to do so and we also have merits sources.


Title: Re: The administration of bitcointalk.
Post by: SquirrelJulietGarden on March 19, 2024, 11:16:39 AM
Maybe you will have to learn about the other ranks and positions here on bitcointalk, the order starts in hierarchy like this.

Admin
Staff
Moderators
Moderators are staffs, they are the same.

You only see difference visually like a forum user displays as moderator and in another thread, you will see as staff. The difference is in a board the user is assigned as a moderator, it will be displayed as moderator. In other boards, the user is not a moderator and will be displayed as staff.

About positions, you must add: Global moderators who can moderate all boards, globally in the forum.

In handling reports, flow is moderators (local moderators) delete posts, threads. They have to submit reports with details to global moderators to ban, unban users. Admins have highest moderation power in the forum.


Title: Re: The administration of bitcointalk.
Post by: SamReomo on March 19, 2024, 11:24:22 AM
Satoshi's main creation was Bitcoin not this forum. He created the forum on source forge only to share updates about the Bitcoin and it's initial features. Satoshi never invested most of his time on this forum and that's why he created less then 600 posts overall. Your information about Sirius is also not correct. He's not anonymous like Satoshi Nakamoto, you can even see his profile on Twitter now X. He has done enough for Bitcoin and for this forum and now he's doing other things. it's his life and it's his own choice.

Theymos and Cyrus are the current admins of the forum, and they are doing their job in the best way possible. As far as I know, Cyrus is daily active on this forum, and he's the one who moves wrong posts from one board to other. If they haven't meet Satoshi then what's wrong with that? Not only them but nobody has ever meet Satoshi Nakamoto in real and that's why he's still anonymous till this day. You should just relax and stop thinking too much. The forum is in hands of good people who know what they are doing, and we as members of the forum are satisfied from the decisions of the admins of the forum.