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welcome to the BTT forum for bitwinup, good luck with your marketing, I'll try to explore your site for a while.

Hello on the forum! Something new, it's interesting. Tired of seeing the same thing over and over again. I will be following your project.

It's completely different than whatever we seen all these years. The idea is refreshing and personally I love the background sound which is addictive LOL

Welcome to bitcointalk platform. It is nice seeing you here. I had to peruse your website for myself to see what you got and I must commend your UI as it is very friendly. However, as I was checking for other features, I could not see them but do you not think updating your website with term's and conditions of service would be okay so that visitors and prospective customers could read for themselves and know what is obtainable in your casino so as not to make any mistake that could cause them something.

Welcome into this forum Bitwinup!

Just like on what mentioned above that this isnt some ordinary site that we do commonly see. Site design is really that indeed interesting to look at and design and animation could catch up attention.
I dont know if its just me about that Bitcoins price binary option kind of game on which its really laggy or just my PC which cant handle the animation? LOL!

I've seen that this had already arranged to have some signature campaign on which this is really a nice move or the best approach.
Good luck Bitwinup.  ;)

Welcome to the forum, Bitwinup.

I'm sure that I ever saw this kind game on the other casino, unfortunately I forgot which casino is.

I don't understand with connecting social media accounts, it's just to connect your social medias or we can gamble using social media accounts? I didn't get it.

Since you've plan to launch a signature campaign, I hope you can compete with the other casinos. :)

https://imgvb.com/images/2024/03/21/9dedfc602b16a7a8d68922cbe675dacf.png

Bitwinup, welcome to the forum.

Great to have such a web3 game platform with a p2p gaming that doesn't involved the house against the player but just the players allowing both to test the strength of their skill, that would be so interesting. Am dazzled with your platform interface and designs. Would love to try your service, catch fun and earn too.

At the moment, am impressed with your choice of Manager in the person of @AB de Royse777. It's evidence Bitwinup really mean business in the forum.

Welcome to the community @Bitwinup,

If I may just add one comment though, kindly check the spelling here,

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/03/21/Jo0g3.jpeg

But in any case, good luck and your platform is a breath of fresh air with it's new design and UI.

Thank you for the warm welcome and for highlighting our upcoming signature campaign

I appreciate your warm welcome to the Bitcointalk community . Your feedback on our website has been received with diligence and attention /


Thank you so much , We sincerely appreciate your meticulous attention to detail and your efforts to make us better.

Welcome to the forum , there is a slight editing needed for the OP's Photo since the word "UP or DOWN" is written as UP or DPWN" so the letter P must be change to letter O .aside from that anything is completely fine.

As I check the site? Im amazed in the Music background in which makes me feel comfortable and sounds like I can just Leave my computer even when sleep having this cool background .

Nice new approach for gambling players with this innovative type of gambling offering , will definitely playing today to check the fairness .

No worries, I think when we see new casinos, we really meticulous look at the details, and yes obviously, you will improved a lot (I also do work as a QA  ;D).

Hopefully, I can work with you in any capacity.

Welcome to the forum. Immediately i saw this thread i had to go and check the platform.

Very interesting Interface, combined with the black background and the gradient style of design which made it outstanding in the logo, buttons and CTAs.

I wish you guys the best of luck in the forum and success ahead. And again, the choice of campaign manager you have chosen is the best. He had managed lots of successful campaign so trust the process.

I just saw this thread when Royse post something about it on their telegram group and first impression is really impressive especially for taking some good decision to market their casino and choose one of the best campaign manager of this forum.

Wish them good luck for more success and for sure after they see a signature campaign to launch many look forward to see competitive contest also a promotion so that people will feel excited to try what they can offer to people in bitcointalk community.

I see a lot of excitements from people here so hoping for the best on their future plans.

Welcome to the forum Bitwinup! This is something refreshing from what we have been seeing in the forum. There were and are Bitcoin price prediction casinos but the team is delivering something new as the layout and the main game do not look like a used template. Good to hear that you are handling their signature campaign, they came prepared with marketing themselves in the forum.

That's good to know that you're launching a signature campaign, the concept is not new I have seen it in the past, but so many are unaware of the trading arena in a gambling platform by launching a signature campaign you will create awareness of this concept.

The step-by-step explanation on the graphic is easy to understand even if it is the first time you see this concept you will not get lost by checking this page,

https://bitwinup.com/how_to_play

Have you guys posted on the forum before? I swear I've seen your casino posted here before.

Anyway, I can't seem to find a way to deposit btc on the website so I'm curious, is there a way to deposit btc into the website or we can only use Polygon to bet?

Welcome to bitctointalk forum :)
I see you started with a new signature campaign in forum and that is a good way to have more members interested in your service.
After visiting Bitwinup I cant find any way to play with bitcoin, and I dont want to connect with any social networks, so is this possible to use Bitcoin?

To be able to add bitcoin I think they will need to do the trades offchain, so far I can see the trades are happening on chain. The network fees are not high but what if at some points the fees become like bitcoin LOL

Thank you both for your engagement and insightful questions! It's always great to see familiar faces and new inquiries on our Bitcointalk threads.

Regarding BTC deposits and the flexibility of using crypto on our platform, we’re excited to announce our partnership with Changelly, a third-party swap service. This collaboration enables us to offer a  range of cryptocurrencies for deposit  including BTC, ETH, SOL, etc... ;

best rgards

#TogetherWithBitwinup

            -   Yeah, this is something really different compared to other casinos here in crypto gambling. Also, I just saw a gimmick that every month, the 10% profit of a casino will be raffled off, right? Does this mean that this casino will be transparent to the community here in the crypto industry?

But in fairness, I like the network blockchain they used, which is polygon matic. I will try to play here; actually, I already have an account. I will just put money in to find out how thrilling it is for the gamblers anyway.

An interesting concept. This will really be fun once the volume of users playing on either side is UP. If I may ask, from which exchange is the Bitcoin price quoted from?

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it's more like a way to create an account automatically, though I would prefer the walletconnect option since it's more privacy-oriented.

You are welcome. Good to know that including other coins with BTC is doable. I don't know how the tech work but if you are able to add BTC then you will have many players from the community. For us Bitcoin is easier than any other coins 😊

I liked the colour scheme of your website for the up & down game. I have seen the announcement of a few more platforms with the same trading concept here in the forum, but none of them were able to survive in the crypto gambling industry. However, some normal crypto casinos have added crypto trading system like your and got success with it.

Personally, I like the signup method with username/email and password. You should add the registration method with email and password, then add the direct deposit method also beside the wallet connect system. I have observed some rounds, but I couldn't calculate the actual commission rate of the house for each round. Looks like the commission rate is changing between 2.5% to 10%. What is the average commission rate of the house?

nice idea nice game! and congratulations on the graphics, really beautiful to see :)
where did the prices come from? which exchange is kept as a point of reference?
Is it possible to use a version in which I just make a deposit to the wallet without having to connect it?

That means when I send Bitcoin it gets converted to some other altcoins and than I can play, but does it also work in reversed way when I want to withdraw back to Bicoin?
I heard Changelly has a reputation of freezing coins sometimes, so it is better for everyone to be aware of this.

I had the same question in mind so I went to their FAQ page and found this piece of information under "Trading rules":
They didn't mention the names of those three exchanges, though!
For transparency reasons, I think they should do so that players can verify the accuracy and fairness of the results.

I don't think this is possible. You have to connect your web3 wallet to be able to play.

For transparency and reputation of their business as well as to avoid accusations from users in future, they need to add names of exchanges used in their formula.

Because there are many cryptocurrency exchanges and top 3 crypto exchanges is still a vague information.

According to Coinmarketcap, top 3 exchanges are Binace, Coinbase, Bybit.
https://coinmarketcap.com/rankings/exchanges/

According to Coingecko, top 3 exchanges are OKX, Bybit, Coinbase.
https://coinmarketcap.com/rankings/exchanges/

An interesting and funny game. As far as I understand, it belongs to the category of binary options. The best thing to do is to have a little fun sometimes on long boring evenings and try your luck. I hope this game has a long life. Also the most important thing is that in this game there is no conflict of interest between the gaming platform and the users. In other words, here users play against other users. This usually improves the reputation of the playground.

Interesting site , offering new approach in gambling world here in crypto so I try trusting
this to play  and the domain name is positive , Bitcoin Win Up , and crypto trading Arena? that
seems to be a original concept(correct me if there are already one running)  but yeah I will try
now since I am available and has some spare funds to risk.

That's good to hear, adding BTC and other cryptocurrency as a payment method is a great way to open your gambling site to gamblers who are comfortable only using certains cryptocurrency when gambling.

Welcome to the forum and good luck!

Changelly used to have many scam accusations [I don't know in recent time they had any] so I never had a good image inside me about Changelly. I think there are always rooms to add more than one instant exchangers.

Thank you for acknowledging my contributions and comments but words without actions is of no effect. I had to peruse your website to see for myself again what effect and efforts you have made in effecting the suggested  observations but I could not see what I suggested you  do initially for which you acknowledged. I actually want to play your games but I would like to read the terms and conditions of service to see for myself.

Just in time for the Bitcoin bull run, the halving is just around the corner the timing is perfect for the concept of this platform, there are a lot of threads and contests about Bitcoin price speculation but the team is taking it to another level by creating a platform for this.

I remember having a similar concept in the past but there is no platform only a thread or telegram bot and yes they are the ones that started this with a platform and with a signature campaign I'm sure this concept will take off.

Welcome Bitwinup into this forum and its good to see that you are following suggestion on what community been saying.

Site design ✅
Fancy looking site ✅
Wallet log-in ✅
Social media account log-in ✅
Nice bonuses and races ✅
Animation ✅

I could actually say that this is something a binary based gambling site that i havent seen a while. There are ones who are
existing but when it comes to design then its a meh!  8)

Have launched up already a signature campaign yet?

Welcome to the forum,

It seems like this is a game like binary options? Never tried playing a game like this before but it seems interesting if the chart refers to the actual price of bitcoin

Yes, it's the same principle. You bet on whether bitcoin price will go up or down. It's as simple as that.
The charts reflect the bitcoin price in real time but the problem is that we don't know where do they get the exchange rate from.
As you can see from the previous replies, other members asked what are the top three exchanges they use but the official representative didn't answer yet.

New approach and new offering , this is one nice site .

Welcome to the forum Bitwinup ,  this is the first time I heard such platform to have a trading arena this must be fun and enjoying .

I would like to wish the game developers further development of the platform. The game is generally not bad. But binary options will be more interesting if you add a number of other functions to them:
1. Make different time frames on which you can bet. For example, 15 minutes, 30 minutes, 1 hour, 3 hours, 1 day. The longer the timeframe, the greater the opportunity for analysis.
2. Expand the list of crypto-assets on which you can bet.
3. Use different types of binary options. For example: above or below a certain range. Within the range there is a win or loss.

The title of the thread is very interesting I thought this concept was for traders only but checking the platform I find the concept so easy to understand the illustrations are all well-explained, and everyone can participate, as it is newbie-friendly.

This is the kind of concept that's worth supporting and the timing is just right, this platform is easy to promote because the concept is easy, everybody loves to predict the price of Bitcoin when halving is coming.
They also pick the right token to use, Solana or Matic is cheap and is one of the chains with a fast transaction
 

I was surprised by the gambling game on bitwinup, at first I was confused by the title of this thread but after visiting the site I immediately understood that this was a binary option. In the past, I often played binary options but did not think that this type of game was considered gambling.

It is very exciting and emotionally draining to wait 15 to 30 seconds for the results to come out. Especially if we bet with a fairly large bet. But it's a fun game, it's been a while since I last played binary options, maybe I'll try playing here.

Binary option is a gambling game IMO because we lose/win by risking our money on predicting the price will go up or down on specific period of time.
Maybe this one is a modified binary options, I'd say it is a multiplayers + pvp binary option.
If I understand it correctly, the winning group win the amount from the losing group which means that it is not against the house like normal binary option.
I might be wrong about this as I have not tried this game, just by watching few rounds of the game.

You can give some advice, I have never actually traded, because the truth is I don't know, I do start to play because Everything would have to be random because I don't have well-defined technical knowledge, I know that here in the forum there are Experts on this, but I see this trading as too difficult, and if you put in a lot of money you still lose, I like it, but that's why I say that if someone can give rabbits better, and this is also with the current market or is it something that is already destined for the casino? because this is very moving.

At first it seems very good to me, but I think that this type of thing makes the Heart race more than in roulette or something like that, to me this type of things that are Combined with trading well I have never tried my luck, but it looks great, I don't know How did you do it to win, but wow, how good.

Well you can start now everything here seems easy the interface is newbie friendly all you have to do is to connect your web3 wallet if you want top up you can do it they are powered by Changelly
https://bitwinup.com/crypto_topup

I don't think you have to be too technical using the platform but you have to study the market chart and the market sentiment so you will have an insight into where you're going to put your money, I'll be topping my wallet and try the platform later, I'm not an expert in trading but we are in a speculative period and this is the best time to hone your prediction skill.

You'll never know until you try it for yourself and share your experience here but only play with money that you can afford to lose, and enjoy the game and have fun, the most important thing you have enjoyed

Thank you for the feedback you provided. Our team really appreciates any suggestions from the community and if we have any updates then we will announce them here

Best Regards,

Peter

As I expected, playing here makes my heart beat fast, especially since the minimum bet is 5 matics, which is quite a large amount for me. Can't I make a custom bet? because the platform provides playing options with bets of 5, 10, 15, 25, up to 200.

https://talkimg.com/images/2024/04/02/VsJ4z.png

Every time I place a bet I also get a ticket notification, but I haven't found how to see the tickets I have and when they are drawn, whether weekly or monthly. In general, I enjoyed playing on your site and I had some small wins. The winnings will be automatically transferred to the connected web3 wallet after the bet is completed, so in my opinion this site is full non KYC.

Great ANN and website design. It's great to see more and more decentralised PVP games popping up in the crypto world these days. Seems like there is a typo in the ANN(DPWN instead of DOWN) though I could be wrong if that's intentional.

Also, I feel that a FAQ section needs to be added answering important queries such as minimum deposit etc and the minimum bet is high and needs to be dropped to something more reasonable.

Thank you for sharing your experience, if there's a big clamor the developers could lower the minimum bet to at least 2 Matic for trial purposes or they can implement custom bets, the platform is fairly new and they accept suggestions and feedback

It's fast and simple you don't need to be an expert trader to try this option if you know hi and low on casino it's very much the same only here you need to check the market sentiment.
Since this is a WebDapp there is no need to registration only wallet connection, everything here is automatic since its run by a script, the site is audited by Certik.

I don't remember having like this in the past, yes we have speculation threads in the games and rounds section but not a platform like this, the launching is just in time in the halving where investors engaged in speculation, It is good that they have a campaign so people will be aware of this new offering.
It's a challenging platform I will check the site and look around.

Hi, Tuturtinular

Thank you for playing at bitwinup. You can see the number of tickets you have in the jackpot section, tickets will be drawn weekly and monthly. https://bitwinup.com/weekly_jackpot

Best Regards,

peter

Additionally you can click the dotted line besides your avatar

You will see all the platform information about the top high rollers

And additional info about how the sites works, like FAQ, tutorial, setting etc.

https://talkimg.com/images/2024/04/04/VjMC3.png (https://talkimg.com/image/VjMC3)

Hi, robelneo

Thank you for your explanation and your explanation seems perfect. For the ticket draw, you can see the countdown time available there

Best Regards,

Peter

Yes it's more like that if you love checking the price often why not challenge yourself I've done testing and had a bad start but will try to be better on my next funding, compared to traditional binary everything here is automatic because it's a smart contract based token


You have to try it, to see how exciting it is here is the summary of the key benefits.

I believe it's better the way it is  right now. It's supposed to be a luck-based game which is more funny. Expanding the session will give some advantage to experienced trades which may spoil the fun. Just my opinion, though.

I like the way the weekly a monthly jackpot is being distributed among the winners based on the number of their tickets. This way even players with a small number of tickets have a fair chance to win part of the prize and high rollers are awarded with a bigger prize.

So far my testing round looks good I have good results I made a bet and will continue later as I'm on travel and want to fully focus on my bets lest I lose everything, this is still a luck-based game but your analysis will surely help, only play with money that you can afford to lose, just have fun.

Totally fun when you are some sort of trader but since this is really talking or speaking about very short time frame kind of movement of prices then it is really that purely considered to be gambling
but you could really actually apply some analysis if you are really that a scalper then this is something that would really be that interesting for you. Checking out the design and animation then this is something which is far more better in compared into those similar sites to this one but actually not really that much that kind of offering that we do have. I have seen this site because of their recent signature campaign launch
on which this is really that a good approach or step that they do have made when it comes to marketing.

Exposure would be the key and to those people who do really love on dealing up with trading type kind of game then this one would really be looking interesting.

I think the whole thing about this site is to keep the gambler engaged in the game. Just like slots. Play quick, win or loss quick. They now have 15 seconds and 30 seconds. I tested their system and I would say I liked the 15 seconds game more than 30 seconds.

Good suggestions, I give my vote in it. It would be even nicer if somehow they can add bitcoin in the chain [I have no idea how though].

making this type of price predictions is very difficult, especially when the chart is 5 minutes long, even if it wasn't forecast like that on this website, it would still be very difficult for anyone to day trade with a 5, 15 or 30 minute chart and To be able to make a profit, the person would probably have more losses than profits, binary options were very popular at the time until people later realized the big risks and gave up. and when I see this game on the op site, it immediately reminds me of binary options, and in this case predicting the price of bitcoin will not be an easy task, using technical analysis with a 5-minute chart is something useless, in my opinion it does not work with bitcoin, as This is a game where the person would be trying to guess the price, so it makes sense that people would assume they are playing for the purpose of just having fun and nothing more than that.

There is no 5, 15 or 30-minute long time frame to trade, they have a 15 or 30-second time frame to trade 5 minutes is just too long to wait for the results, the idea of this game is to keep you engaged and to have a quick analysis and I agree that the purpose of this game is to have fun just like all the other games you see in casinos.

You have to try to get the overall idea of how the platform works, so far my experience is good great entertainment you don't have to be very good at price analysis, and luck also plays a big factor.

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No matter how experienced in trading you are, it's almost impossible to predict what the price would be or whether it will go up or down in the next 15 or 30 seconds. First because the difference between the starting price and the ending price is almost negligible and second because 15 or even 30 seconds isn't enough to analyze the market.
As you said, it's a luck based game so just enjoy it.

I will say welcome to bitcointalk and it's not easy to locate bitcointalk without someone directions or description, I know basically you have understood the bases of bitcointalk before you could have make a perfect post of thi kind with images of your products I think you have understood the system of the forum very well, secondly, I think that this  site is all about casino websites and if happen to be casino websites what you will do is to make sure you have launched a campaign in the forum so that people will get to know you and your platform easily

It seems you are not aware that they already have a signature campaign,
 BITWINUP Bitcoin PVP Prediction Game Signature Campaign | up to $90 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5489938.0)
and they are already running for two weeks and heading on their third week, this platform is gaining a lot of attention because it's a different concept from what we see in regular online casinos.
They have to keep up the campaign, good start for this platform, they've done the right thing since day one.

I'm not aware of them having a signature already I think that's great for them to have their own signature that speed up gamblers to known of their products and what they they have to offer, because we have different casino sites and gamblers likes to be seeing new casino gambling platform so that they can compare the both casinos to know the one that will be good for them to associate with, or with other gambling platform, sometimes what makes some of the sites of gambling platform or not to get much traffic is when they out of signature campaign more people in bitcointalk will not like to visit their site again, if they want to have more traffic they have a long run signature campaign so that gamblers here will be visiting their platform.

I don't really think it mainly base on luck there's still need of some analysis in order to get a higher chance of winning though luck may have a role here but it's not the basic.
Though entirely it kind be seen as a fun prediction of bitcoin price.

Also Op please, is there any chance of adding other third-party aside Changely, which may accept lesser minimum deposit with other crypto.

There's always a trend and if you have a photographic memory you can catch that trend to make good results in your betting since the time frame is within 30 seconds you can catch the trend on 3 to 6 successive betting or even more before there is a shift, you will need big funds and total engagement to have a favorable results its fun and challenging.

The other alternative with good reviews is Gate.io based on this articles
https://www.g2.com/products/changelly/competitors/alternatives
So what would you recommend loading is good but revising the script will add more loads to the script its better to use your in-wallet swap I always do it on Trust Wallet then I transfer my Polygon on Bitwinup.

The type of trader that could be able to handle out this kind of movement or someone who could put up some analysis into this kind of price movement is into those scalpers
but generally speaking about 15 seconds or 30 seconds time frame is really something that no analysis that could really be applied.

Here are some of my suggestions;

1. Possible application of technical indicators 2-3 atleast  ;D
2. Smooth movement animation (i dont know if its just me or all people who do visit out the site)
3. Dark mode?

The site is fancy looking and really love those color combinations but sometimes it does hurt my eye too much.
In overall this one is really that something good if we do speak about binary options kind of game or gambling.

With very short time frames, it is like gamble with probability of luckiness.

Not everyone will feel the same like you but have two modes, Light and Dark modes, will be better. It helps the platform to serve users better with customization on website visual mode.

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About languages, there is Vietnamese but when I click on it, the language is still English. Is it only your team plan to add that language later?

I don't check other languages.

If you need translation for multiple languages, you can find some translators from [TRANSLATION SERVICE] WW's SERVICEs - ALL LANGUAGES AVAILABLE (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5257557.0)

Yes, this is more of a luck factor. It is very difficult to carry out analysis in the next 15 to 30 seconds, but with the trend we can guess what is likely to happen. Games like this are very adrenaline-pumping, especially since the minimum bet is 5 matics, which is quite a large amount for me. However, if we dare to bet big enough for one or two bets and win, then it will be a good win

Technically speaking if a user projected the price of bitcoin to go up within an hour, couldn't that user place consecutive positive bets for that entire hour, resulting in a positive result?

Do you mean employing a martingale method, we all know that martingale could not work and you need a large amount to employ that method, maybe others are already using it because there will be players who will do a martingale variation because they have good results in the past and there are players who are very loyal to this method, either way it's still a matter of luck in a highly volatile market.

In my opinion, the game is interesting, but it would become even more interesting if users had more opportunities to predict the outcome of price movements. This can only be done by increasing the game timeframe. Indeed, 15 and 30 seconds are too short and the luck factor plays almost 100% here. If the timeframes were at least 1 hour, 6 hours, 1 day or even 1 week long, then the result would be more predictable and analysts, and not just entertainment lovers, would start playing this game. The color scheme of the site is also fun, but sometimes it can be annoying to the eyes.

If you set the timeframe to over an hour, that's a lot of waiting and I guess it's not anymore viable to a casino because as much as possible they want to maximize their profit, so fast result would give that and they'll say no to longer results, unless the minimum bet is increase but I still doubt it will be more profitable for them compared to the current set up.

The platform is not like other Binary trading where you have to wait hours this is more like a Crash game concept type of platform where you have to think fast and base it on hunch or luck or your skill in analysis, this is created for gamblers for excitement and engagement and not for full-time traders where you have to look on outside sources and market sentiment to come out with a definite prediction.
The game is fast, and there is total control of your emotions something that you can also find in a Crash game

It is too risky to set more than one hour. Moreover, this will provide a high level of curiosity, especially since we all don't know where the price of Bitcoin will go. We can only guess without knowing what will happen.

Maybe those who want to play this game can try for a short time, like 5 minutes or 10 minutes, and see the results. This will be an interesting hit-and-run game, as the outcome will remain a mystery. We can only win because we analyse the Bitcoin price.

Don't increase the bet if you are not prepared for loss, which could happen at any time. It's best to use the money you can afford.

A lot more people want action and excitement, that's why the timeframe is short. With longer timeframes, the thrill wouldn't be the same... but I think that they should have those options as well, more options mean more fun, and with longer timeframes, people could count on doing some research before betting. With 15/30 seconds it's all about luck, the price is moving up and down like crazy.

I like how the trading arena looks, the colors are nice and the sound makes everything much more interesting. I think I will give it a try, so I will finally get more into polygon matic:


That sounds a lot better than using "Changely". Thanks for the advice Coin-investor.

That's what I thought, it's not gambling anymore if you'll have to wait for that long hours as it's only possible in sports betting where games ended in more than an hour. This is game where the outcome is quick, we have to play with the rules, we can suggest for the improvement of the casino but I feel the suggestion @Julien_Olynpic doesn't make sense in relation to the current operational structure.


Like @coin-investor mentioned, it could be like a binary option trading, and since we are gambling here, we don't want that, at least majority of us as we want quick and instant result of the action we are playing.

The concept of the game is to challenge your luck and analytical skills in the fastest way possible even if you're not a trader you can start your predicting skill and your luck, I'm not a full-time trader but this game gives me experience in how to think like a trader.

Then it will just become another platform like Futuur where bettors will have to wait for a long time frame to see the results, gamblers want to see the results right away, so this game caters to gamblers, risk takers, and traders, if we have a poll we will see the result right away.

I would say that 1hr isnt really something that it is more risky, the shorter the duration the more riskier it would be. This is why they have set 15 or 30 seconds because there's no way that you could really be able to apply any analysis into it due to very short time which is unlike when we do speak about 1hr duration or any other longer period on which you could really be able to apply any analysis on which it would really be that giving that higher chances for gamblers to win up a particular bet and a gambling site wont really be that liking such thing.
Also we do want that fast pace results or outcomes on which gamblers do really like. They wont really be tending to make longer duration kind of betting on which they would really be
making as short as possible. Just like on what most been saying that this one is good looking and interesting.

So this is simulated trading with limits how much you can win? I am assuming that because there are jackpots and such.

I don't get what the upside of playing this would be against longing and shorting actual markets. As in actual markets there is no limit you can technically make by longing something. So what you guys are adding to the table are basically visuals and competition? And maybe easiness of it? Or am i missing something?

That being said, i would wish some exchanges would offer this sort of gamified simplistic version of shorting and longing.

I think it best for you to visit the site and check out some of the information about the site like how this works https://bitwinup.com/how_to_play you are going to miss a lot without visiting and to have a good discussion on this platform why not try it and give us your feedback the smallest bet is 5 Matic but hopefully in the future the developers offer a $1 trial so they can grasp and understand the game.

Actually its just simply choosing whether the price would be going up or down on a particular duration on which its neither up or down into your entry point and having that only 15 seconds or 30 seconds options.

Just like on what been said above or the link given is something that would really be helpful on totally understanding the game or simply about into its mechanics. If you are aware on how
Binary option trading works then it is really just that simple the same, but somehow it is really that even more shorter since we are talking about seconds duration on here before
you could really be able to know up about the result of a certain bet.

It is really just that too hard on predicting on where prices could go in a short duration thats why its impossible to apply any analysis on here.

I support this and hope the management will take this into consideration though the trial offer should be 1 Matic which I believe you meant with $1.

Though I don't really know how feasible will this be since I  discovered other casino offering similar minimum deposit to predict though if the dev can do this it will really attract many since predicting on Bitwinup is fun and after their first try most will want to play again.

But still yet you can't solely rely on luck, there will be a strategy which one may definitely be using while predicting and still enjoying the game ;D

I believe there's none, if there's one then would you mind on telling me? What

-Indicators
-Analysis

On which you could really be able to apply on a 15 or 30 second price movement? This is why i could really say that this one
perfectly fits on gambling because there's no way that you could really be able to know on where prices would be going. Bitcoins price is way too volatile.
Even if we do say that it could be going to some uptrend but since your indicators are really that showing upward or downward movement then
due to that kind of few seconds intervals and its movement then i dont see for any analysis would really be effective into it but well
its up to our own taking or approach on how you do handle yourself.  :)

If you've been trading for many years and you try this platform, you already developed the hunched on where the market is heading, so I can safely say that traders have a slight edge compared to gamblers like us who rely on luck like us, although I can prove this to be 100% true I just based it on logic.

Yes I agree with you. It is difficult to make predictions for the next 15 to 30 seconds, but by looking at market trends we can guess. I usually look at trends before betting

If you do go with trends then its good for you to predict out or as long you do make yourself in profits with this then its really a profitable type of game for you.
Just like the rest on what everyone is really that saying that it is really that hard to make guess on where price would go on few seconds.
Even if we are really that good on trading or even in futures then it would really be that too hard for you to be able to guess on few second kind of guessing
but this is really gambling so get used to it.

Well, it depends on each person when placing a bet. Some people like short and long durations and each of them will know that there are risks behind it. But whatever it is, they should have the ability to analyze Bitcoin movements.

This is so they can know the duration they can use to place bets. This requires better analytical skills to be able to predict where the Bitcoin price will go. And beginners should not try it, especially if they are just guessing Bitcoin price movements.

Well, this is a challenge for those who want to test their analytical skills. They can learn more in terms of analyzing Bitcoin price movements.

robelneo explained this better here  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5489723.msg63922463#msg63922463)
To be frank I don't think bitcoin is way too volatile as you said though we all can agree that it's volatile but not way too volatile, while time frame is limiting analysis, experience traders can make a strategy that will give them  better chance of winning in their predictions

The platform caters to or targets two markets, traders and gamblers, this is like hitting two birds with one stone but both types of players have a chance to win but will also suffer losses because of how fast the game is being played, for you to have a positive result on this game you have to constantly check the market and get used on the time frame its a combination of luck and skills in possibly analyzing the market in a fast way.

Some of my friends played here but did not get positive results last time but they like the fun side of playing in this kind of game.

So far some traders got 55% to 72% scores which is already good considering the challenge of the time frame, so it's possible based on this data to have a good win percentage but when it comes to profitability we don't know when I'm betting I have good luck when betting at the lowest bet, but when tempted to try a big amount thinking that I already have a grasp of market trend, that's when I get busted.
I'm sure some bettors put in different amounts when betting to first test the market trend.

https://bitwinup.com/win_ratio

70% winning ration or something that goes 50+ up then its something that means that this one could really be profitable.It do really matters on how much you do earn on every right guess.
I havent checked out on how much commissions or deductions they are taking in every roll or with every round ends. I might check out later if its really that worth to go for longer runs or not.
Its good to see that there are really that actually be able to make money or profitable on this one and pretty sure that one is a trader.  :D

Just like the rest been saying on here is that having that kind of short time approach towards binary options trading which is really that a gambling on where
it is really that mind boggling on what are the indicators that they've been using on this one or really just that totally go with the trend but just like on what said that
15 or 30 seconds is really just that too short and i cant imagine.

We can't tell if that address comes from a trader or a gambler unless the owner comes down here and tells people that he owns that address and he is a trader, it could be a gambler because the platform is being promoted here in the gambling section so we never know, this platform has a good chance to be popular if the admins can keep up with the promotion.
The concept is very addictive and you need large funds and a good focus because there is no time out the game is continuous 24/7 I will not be surprised if some players play for hours here.

Yes this is true but since somehow traders have an higher chance of getting right predictions then we might just think it's a trader while still not disrupting the fact that they might be one hell of a gambler getting such predictions right.

I don't really get what you meant with a large funds since minimum deposit is 5 matic which is quite similar with other platform offering this while in order to constantly make predictions you may need more funds, the core thing here is the focus because no matter the amount/time you are predicting if you're not focus but just randomly predict you may likely end up losing except if you're good with guessing.

I think what he means is the player needs large funds so he can play continuously even for a small amount so he can have a grasp of the trend in the graph, like you better for 4 consecutive times, and on your fifth you get the trend but don't have funds to take that opportunity.

When you're starting here it's normal to experience losses but if you are quick to analyze you can get the trend so to be able to win you have to take some losses.

It's not the bet, I may used the wrong word but bankroll as I don't think a few bets will not give you positive results on your bets for you to fully grasp the game you need funds that will run for several bets because it's a fast pace game, I agree the main element here is guessing, because even if you are in front of a graph you still cannot figure it out, but if you know the market sentiment you can use that to your advantage.

Am still not convinced (and I don't think I'll ever will) that traders have some advantage on this game over other players. If this was true then they can make a fortune by trading on trading platforms.
Besides, again, within 15 or 30 seconds the difference between the start price and the end price will most likely be few cents and since the games uses three different exchanges am sure the exchange rate will be higher on some of them and lower on the others.

I agree this will become a trader's cash cow if this is the case, if you look at the trading dashboard seldom you see that the majority of bettors won on one option, it is always a mix and this is proof that the trader or gambler or even newbie your chances is equal like all the others, a trader may have a run of good luck on his bets but next time it's the gambler type of guy's turn.

That's the reason we call this game as gambling as that falls to the luck based game. you maybe a trader, good at it, but you can never predict accurately the prices movement in 15 to 30 seconds, its just lucky that would be able to help us win on this game and there's no way they'll change the nature of game when the favor is on them. No casino would give its gamblers the edge, it's always on them as they need to be profitable in running their business.

Suggestions are good by the way, but it's up to the casino if they'll change the current system they have. If I'm on their shoes, I would not bother changing into something when the business is running smooth while the game is still fun to play.

As a house bitwinup is charging the hosting fees if I got their business model correctly. There are two sides, one in favor of price up and one is against it. Whoever wins, the bitwinup is taking fees from the table as the host. You win or lose, bitwinup has it's business always, unlike the regular casino where there is a chance that the business can bankrupt from a big win of a gambler.

Very Interesting so the platform is sustainable and it just depends on the number of players playing on the platform, if that is the case, long-term marketing is good for the platform, and so far it has generated a big interest in the gambling community, it's good that they have a signature campaign with you managing it.

They also have good referral rewards, I strongly believe that the platform will last because of its sustainable model, and the timing to launch this kind of platform is right, just in time when halving is just a few weeks.

The business model is perfectly sustainable as we can see it's the commission that the business needs to make the profit, player win or loss does not matter for the admin. All it matters is to maintain the platform and make it more interesting for the players, although it's interesting enough. I am constantly in contact with the owner and planning to propose to apply some other marketing plans to get more players. If they offer investment, I think it will be more interesting. The affiliate commission rate is high too and it's from the profit they take from each round.

The current system is already good thre were suggestions on time frame but I don't think they will change the time frame right away, players will have to get used to it, based on Royse information the system is sustainable they only need to atract players as the platform is not betting against players they are more like a commission basis, so the more players playing the more the developers can sustain the platform and continously market the platform.

This platform has a huge potential because their market is wide, they target the trading community and the gambling community.

Targeting two closely related communities is an excellent idea by the BITWINUP team and the more players playing the more the merrier for both the BITWINUP team and the players from which they never have to worry about not being paid no matter how big is their wins since  it's moving directly to their wallet.
I hope the BITWINUP team follows Royse777 marketing plans in order to get more to know and join this platform since is really good in this.

Continuous marketing on forums and casino review sites will generate more players. forums like Bitcointalk have three sections Trading, gambling, and speculation where the platform can get more leads, I'm sure the developers will accept Royse777 offer, hopefully, we'll see a review campaign here since this is a new concept launching a review campaign will attract more people to try the platform

Bitwinup is a casino based web3, so you will be paid any winnings you get as soon as the game is finished. All transactions are done through your web3 wallet via smart contract and so far everything is going very well. Playing at bitwinup then we will have 15 and 30 seconds that make the heart beat fast and full of adrenaline.  :D

Bitwinup may be a promising game, but the team needs a lot of work on development. 15-second and 30-second binary options are good, but they are unlikely to attract an audience for a long time. It would be interesting to analyze the economic indicators of the site, although, of course, this is unlikely to be published. But if the platform is successful among users, then the team needs to continue working on the project and introducing new features into the platform. The project has a number of advantages, such as the absence of a conflict of interest between the user and the platform. This is the new right trend in the world of beating.

It's also unlikely that they are going to scam their players because they are on a commission basis and everything is automated since this is a web3 platform, and if the platform becomes successful there's a possibility that there will be more platforms like this coming.

Whenever there is a new trend and it becomes successful, especially in the gambling industry expect similar platforms to come out, I hope the team can keep up with the promotion, a new concept needs continuous marketing for wider reach.

If ever they would really be able to get sufficient numbers or gamblers who would really be playing or staying up into their site then i could say that this one would be the first that be having that
solely binary-based kind of game type that able to survive in the market. If you are trying out to look around then there's no other sites that do offer such game on a single focus website. Excluding into those sites like Rollbit and other platforms which does have that kind of binary options game but i would say for Bitwinup that it would be better that they would really be making out some application
of some ideas that came from into those sites on which its not really that a bad idea considering that these are long time players here into this forum on which getting some idea
wont really be that bad as long you wont be copying it completely.

Increasing the time limit will mainly be favorable to traders, don't forget that the target market are both traders and gamblers, this option probably works well and one doesn't have wait much to make a prediction during

Actually with continuous Signature campaign and what robelneo said here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5489723.msg63946099#msg63946099), sooner or later Bitwinup will become an household name on BTT just like others top casino on BTT  especially since it's unique from the others

Welcome to Bitcoin Talk. Bitwinup is a crypto-based online casino game. It looks very nice game. Bitwinup brings so many game options. Bitwinup web3 pool trading game. Pool round time 30 seconds to place a trade. Another surprise to their participant was just 15 seconds to knock out time and announce to winner. Bitwinup has five prize pools. It creates a lot of chances to win more and more prizes from here. Bitwinup also brings monthly jackpots for their user. With each transaction, you can get a lottery ticket which creates more opportunities to win more and more prizes.  All transactions are done through your web3 wallet it's a safe transaction.

Thank you for all your responses. We will always listen to ideas and feedback from the community that might make us better over time.

Best Regards,

Peter

I think it's possible as we are all speculating on the price of Bitcoin, there are stand-alone crash game platforms and they have survived and are still up by being a single game, the game is exciting, and you need to be laser-focused this is the kind of platform that you want to play over and over again just like you do in a crash game, I believe they 

You have to explain what these ideas are coming from other platforms, the developer already mentioned in his post that they are open to new ideas and suggestions, do you mean adding more games?

Very interesting platform a friend recommended this to me but I noticed that my AV is blocking access to the site is the platform safe to access, its good that you have a discussion here on Bitcointalk.

It's a false positive the platform is perfectly safe and its smart contract is audited

I've checked it on Virustotal and it sometimes happens on web3 application but there's no need to worry there's no complaint so far on the platform

No security vendors flagged this URL as malicious (https://www.virustotal.com/gui/url/29f84e870bb5e66289a71c990ed6dc89b9261e4bab80eb173ecd928d67df61be)

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Aside this I think Virustotal sometimes are in their judgment since I almost fell for a phisping scam because of it recently last month.

@plr just continue to enjoy the platform this information doesn't really matter except its coming from a verified source and proven true

So far based on this data they are doing great they will pass the 7 digits paid before the end of the month, and the weekly and the monthly jackpots are also growing if many players are playing the monthly jackpot will keep growing Let's see whose wallet address will be the first to win the first monthly jackpot.
It could be you if you keep on playing.

I can attest that, the transaction is very smooth but be sure that when you're depositing you have an excess amount if you're going to deposit $10 make sure you do it at $11 so if you're going to so two bets at $5 per bet you can do that because of the deduction I have a few entries in the monthly raffle lets see who's the address that's going to be I hope the winner of that large can go down here and post his winning

Well, the developer is open to feedback or suggestions so suggest what you think are the best features that they can add to the platform, one of the features that I want to see is adding another internal exchange on the platform or adding more chains so people can deposit other tokens, I'm already ok with the 15 - 30 seconds but making it 40 seconds is good for the interest of the traders.

Its sustainability lies in the number of players playing the game, since the game is very fast the transfer of earnings for the winners and commission for the platforms makes it sustainable for the platforms, if they have whales playing here, the whales have the more chances to win in the raffle.

Thank you for posting this yes I guess it is a false positive I should have checked it on Virustotal but all is good now as I whitelisted it on my AV settings.

With the recent spike in transaction fees on Bitcoin many casinos rely on gamblers who will deposit altcoins and tokens to their account this will greatly benefit web3 platform because of the much lesser fees, Bitwinup, and other web3 gaming platforms will get to their attention as an option to play.

This is just a temporary thing, soon the fees will be back to normal and gambling will be back to normal. But on the days that the transaction fee is really high, of course it benefits the casinos that accepts altcoins but on the present, most of casinos including the biggest already have altcoins deposit options. I like the major edge of this web3 platform is that they don't require KYC.

Regardless if this is just a temporary thing or not, having the spotlight even for a short period of time is already enough to attract users and let the casino games and bonuses itself do the magic to let the new users stays.

However, I think the majority of gamblers is not using Bitcoin anymore due to the recent price spike of fees and the price. I personally use stablecoin when gambling especially on bear market to maintain the original value of my bankroll while playing in an event that the market suddenly crash.

USDT and other stablecoins are much popular currencies for gambling purposes while Bitcoin normally use for long term holding.

Yes, they don't everything here is automatic and contract-based as long as the contract is audited it's all good, .

Especially in times like this USDT and altcoins take the attention, there was a thread in the gambling discussion about what gamblers use when transaction fees are high or the price is moving up and the majority voted for USDT.

Would really be that understandable that there should really be an alternative specially on sudden spikes when it comes to Bitcoin fees on which this is something that should be considered.
People would really be normally be switching up into those alternatives on the time that they cant afford on paying up those huge fees.

I have seen that Bitwinup signature had been stopped, dont know if they do completely have that trial period and seeing if there's a significant sign ups or players or
totally not really getting that much attention? Usually this kind or type of gambling doesnt really get that much attraction.

This platform main coin for making prediction is Matic while it offers a way of converting your coins to matic through changelly in order to vote, the coins you can convert to your Matic Is stated there while they are many and popular

it's only pause now, since they want check to the amount of traffic it brought.
Though platform offering such game may not be getting much attention but with time and continuous marketing like signature campaign BITWINUP will get much traffic since anyone interested in that game who will play with them will love to continue

It's a good run like all the other signature campaigns that launch a trial they will evaluate, but hopefully, they will resume the campaign, they have Royse777 as their adviser and campaign manager so I'm sure he will guide them on the right time to relaunch a campaign and other marketing advice, I think they have good results all the casinos that launched a campaign create an impression and a month's campaign is enough to get a good impression.

Playing at bitwinup is always fun, the only thing I don't like is that the minimum bet is 5 matic, a huge amount for me. If they were allowed to bet 1 matic, then this would be fun. Bitwinup is also a quick way to double your bet, but don't be greedy because it usually ends badly. Betting once or twice a day is key

Maybe an option to enter your own amount will be a good idea. The management team is on a vacation, I have prepared some points to discuss, once they are back, I will present the option to enter own amounts too.

That's great news. I hope they can implement it, although it may take time for the team to update the option. Their ticket system also has a minimum amount to be able to take part in the draw, in my opinion all tickets can be drawn so everyone has a chance to win a ticket even though the chance is small.

I hope they do, this is not your average casino where they offer sign up bonus to try the platform but with the minimum amount to use the platform like 1 MATIC they can try the system, and from there the player can increase their bets, let's admit it not all players are alike some are here to make money and some are here to test the platform and some are here just to enjoy the game.
And with the minimum bet everyone is included, I'm looking forward to this.

Its not the only platform that launch a campaign and stopped it after a month, some campaign only last two weeks or less, one month is good enough what this project needs is for the developer or representative to always update the platform for new development additional features, the gambling community likes that, but its understandable since it's already mentioned that the main developer is on vacation.

I hope they can keep up, the platform offers a new and interesting concept, its nice to see new concept when developers are launching traditional casino platform.

This is true and I think this would be better it compensate for the sign up bonus and made the platform more unique since I haven't seen any casino having this game and allows such low amounts.
1 matic works better for testing while they might add other third-party aside from using Changely for swapping other coins to Matic or maybe limit the minimum swapping quantity of these coins.

Thanks for echoing this one and I'm sure the developer will consider this one for testing purposes for those who want to try the platform since they are open to feedback and suggestions, so far the platform claimed to have paid over 9 digits all time so this is a good indication that the platform is doing great until now.
Hopefully it will continue to be for many weeks or months to come.

9 digits? so that's like $100,000,000 at a very minimum. Mmmm. if this is true then it's really big because for a new casino to payed that much that means the total wagers is more than that, and that also means that there are lot of gamblers playing on their site.

I was exploring the website but I could not see the total wagers unlike other casinos where you can see the history of wagers regardless of the amount. I guess we just have to believe them since they won't lie because they are building their reputation.

The stats are all here the top wallets are the ones being shown we don't know the exact data I hope if they can, they could show it to us for transparency.
https://bitwinup.com/about

So far there are no complaints and they are doing good, if the dev comes back they should give us updates from time to time, and the official representative must be present here to interact for feedback and suggestions.
Maybe a review campaign will benefit the platform.

Thanks. And wow, that's over $500 million paid.. This is the biggest casino I see that offers this kind of game.



That's a good thing, no complaints about them means this total bets will continue. I was trying to ask if there's a way to verify the total paid but then I realize that it was an internal transaction, so it's just a matter of trusting them now.

Yes, since the dev posted that they are open to feedback I hope they can implement that, right now only two days before the monthly jackpot, and these are the numbers of players that qualified in the jackpot and the number of tickets they have to qualify, so the more tickets the more chances to win the monthly jackpot


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We have noted the feedback from the bitcointalk community, We have reported it to our team. We are waiting for goodnews from our main management and of course we need time until this brilliant idea can be implemented

Best Regards,

Peter

It's good to see you posting again here and updating for new and upcoming developments, yes it will take time because adding additional features is not that easy, a continuation of the campaign or a review campaign is also good for the platform, interesting here is whose wallet will be the winner of the monthly raffle this one is worth waiting.

I'm glad you took our suggestion into consideration, I really hope they are implemented though it's obvious it will take time but as long as some of these are at least implemented, there will be a more positive growth.


Oh about this, I still also have to follow this up

We will announce it here when our main team has made a decision. Thank you for the great feedback from the bitcointalk community


I don't know if I can publish it here or not, but I will ask our main management about this one


Great idea, I've noted it and will coordinate with our promotions team whether we need to do something like that or not.

Best Regards,

Peter

Creating a review campaign can help boost Bitwinup popularity in search engines, since Bitcointalk is well respected by search engines the review will get indexed by Google and other search engines especially when used with the right tagging and keywords, there were other casino review campaigns in the past that help their popularity in the search engine.

I agree with @robelneo. I think all casino who run their signature campaign in the forum should not forget to have a review campaign. Because without review campaign, participants will be able to give their honest review based on their experience. With an experience campaign manager, your company will be able to run a successful review campaign.

But the signature campaign was stopped, do you have plan on relaunching it in the future?

Thanks for echoing this they have an experienced manager who will lead their project to a new height, especially for a new concept like Bitwinup, we'll know more about the development of this platform and their long-term plans in the coming weeks but right now they have no competition on this concept, this is what I know so its more on the marketing side for people to know more about this concept.

Half a billion dollars paid already in the casino, that pretty showed they have the budget for marketing, probably they are just evaluating things up and don't want to spend money without an expected return. Well, this forum( bitcointalk) is one of the best venue for crypto marketing and I'm sure they'll reach that $1 billion as they attract more players from here.

We'll know that in the coming update if they are satisfied with the results and need to establish their brands because they are a new concept they will proceed and pour more into marketing and of course, since Bitcointalk is the best place to market they will do a relaunch.

They also have to cover new territories like asking people to rate them on Trustpilot or hiring people to promote them on other forums.

Yes, we have a great marketing team and of course we always carry out regular evaluations. We have recorded all input suggestions, our marketing team will decide and of course with support from @royse777 who has helped us grow

If our marketing team decides to create a new campaign or another campaign model, royse777 as our campaign manager in the forum will definitely announce it to the community.

Best Regards,

Peter

Marketing a gambling site in this forum is a good trick to attract user interest, especially as the reputation of this forum is very large among bitcoin and altcoins players, just look at how the crypto gambling sites that have been marketing on this forum for a long time, they have gained a ++ reputation because of that, it would be a shame if didn't make good use of this forum, the OP and the team are definitely evaluating the effectiveness of the marketing they are carrying out, the OP has also announced that they will again announce the time when they will start the campaign again.

One criterion not really the main criteria but a criterion that you can include in looking for a reputable casino to play is how they do marketing, sorry I'm not stealing this thread but look at big casinos in the industry like Stake they have a continuity of marketing and that sets them apart from the rest.

We just never know but there will be similar concepts like Bitwinup coming up with huge marketing allocation and people will forget the one who started it all if they have none ongoing.

Thanks for confirming this the community is looking forward to this, to sustain the platform's success after they launch their announcement here it may not be immediate it could be later based on what you perceive as the right time.
So far best on the community reactions and feedback things are going well I hope it converts to the platform's success.

This is the winners of their weekly and monthly raffle bonus you have a big chance to win in their weekly and monthly raffle if you are an active bettor on their platforms, congratulations to the winners

https://bitwinup.com/jackpot_winners

Having consideration on running up another campaign then it would really be that good for project/platforms exposure. Running up a week or a few doesnt really assure out when it comes to success
and that recognition. It would really be taking up some time before it would really be giving that kind of result but of course there no assurance in this regard.

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Honestly,im really that looking forward for this site to get that recognition and seeing above its really that good to see that there are people who are really that
playing on this one and it shows about their engagement on which this is a good step i should say.

Three things that will assure a gambling platform good recognition and these are no complaints or quick-to-resolve issues, second is engagement, not daily but from time to time, and of course a continuous campaign to build the brand.
If they can do all these three, then they are good to go but the first is of utmost importance as it builds reputation.

I think Bitwinup has stable players, and I'm sure that the signature campaign is the one that makes it possible; the signature campaign is still the best campaign model, also, checking the referral models it offers the most generous rewards people should look at it another campaign model worth looking is SEO article campaign for search engines it attracts referrals in a long term.

Every platform has its own goal when launching a campaign, some casinos just like an introduction and update their thread with bonuses and giveaways to attract players, while some casinos go the extra mile by allocating budgets for long-term campaigns and some casinos fail in their expectations so they stopped their campaign, online gambling is a very competitive industry, either you keep on, or you stop and just make whatever is there to make profit.

So far, here is the current stat of the platform; quite lower compared to last month, hopefully, but they are still good. hopefully, the dev will plan to launch another campaign.

@robelneo, do you have the data for last month?

That data was just one day (24 hours), so if we will multiply that to 30 days, they are still paying 4,784,490 or almost $5 million. Well, for me it's already big, but if they want to increase that amount, they really need to be consistent with their marketing in the forum.

This is the data from last month. It still looks good, but not as good as when they first launched here. It seems they have steady players; we're still waiting for more updates from the developer. He will have good news to post here, like if they changed the timer and any additional configuration.

It may not be a signature campaign, but more like a banner campaign review campaign or campaign on any casino review site. In this business, It is hard to be complacent when it comes to marketing, but every platform has a different approach to its business model when it comes to marketing.

Even if you're just a medium size gambling platform, if you're consistent with marketing, people will look you up as a stable platform, and the community will support that.

If you require a more complete data, maybe you can email us with your aims and objectives, in some cases we may consider your request.

Thank you for your suggestions, our marketing is working hard both on and off the forums


Yes, you're right. There are many marketing strategies and we always evaluate the effectiveness of advertising, of course all advertising models will have different impacts, but effective and efficient advertising will always be good for any company, including us. Thank you for your suggestions

It's good and commendable that you posted that you could provide more complete data about the platform under the circumstances that you deem ok. Some platforms will not, under any circumstances, because it could undermine the platform's financial capability to run and maintain it. So, what's next for Bitwinup? I know this is a new concept, but a roadmap of that sort is good and welcoming for your existing and potential clients.

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/05/15/1taI5.jpeg
It's good to see that our suggestion has been added, now we have the 15sec and 30sec time span. With 15sec having a minimum stake of 5 Matic while the order with the minimum of 25 stake .


With this new innovation one can play with a amount less than $3.5 now, which makes this one of the house's offering less amount to play this game amazing. Now something like a review campaign will really help to bring others to this house again.

According to the management the discussion I had with them a few days ago, they said the site have new skin and new time-frame. I can see the site looks nicer, the cosmetics have been improved. But as far as I can remember there already used to have 15 and 30 seconds time-frame.

BTW they added new stable token and memetoken.

Yes but I don't think that one can pick using only the 30 sec time frame before.

Oh I didn't notice this earlier though did notice that there where changes on the site even the avatars while I didn't give much attention to that earlier I could tell that the site looks different from the last time I visited.

I am not sure but I feel there were this 30 seconds time frame too :-D
The next goal I think is to allow users to enter their own trade amount instead of the system given options. What do you think?

Yes they added it, and for people to see the other options to top up you can also top using your credit card and your Paypal, bank transfer all of these are powered by Transfi.com

Bitwinup just showed that they are listening and they are trying to be a competitive platform in a highly competitive industry based on the stat provided in the data, they are doing great, and the income has stabilized I'm sure marketing is part of their plan to keep their platform moving and get more attention from the betting and the trading community.
If they reach a certain level of popularity, I'm sure more platforms will come out that are very similar to Bitwinup.

Hmm this though will be a great addition with the minimum being 3 matic which is good for now base on the price for a Matic.
Sorry for the late response just saw this now.

Yes this is definitely true especially if they becomes a well-known name in bitcointalk, they will be having so much influence and aspirations to similar platforms

I'm certain that will be the case, halving just happens and we are speculating on the price of Bitcoin and since we are speculating we have a general idea on the movement of the price of Bitcoin and so with this its better to monetize your opinion and prediction about the Bitcoin's price.
Bitwinup has a huge market and potential and its only a matter of time before they reach it.

Still highly doubt that considering that binary-options like kind of website isnt something that really gets too much attention. Also, we've seen some old known sites that has this kind of game integrated or could be found on the platform on which that alone does means that it would really be a tough competition for them but of course seeing and checking out the site on what it looks like then its really something
that  give that new experience basing up on the design and the animation on which this one you could really say that this has been built not on a rush way or method.  :)

If we do try to compare it out into those other websites then it is really just that solely played up with binary options and no other games being offered.
So for those who do love to trade then this one would really be something interesting.

Based on the data they provided, they are doing well, binary options like platforms may not get the nods of the majority of gamblers, but there is still a market for this platform we have seen predictive markets like Futuur trying their way on the industry, the gambling industry is a huge market, and so is the binary options it's really on the marketing that could do the trick for a platform like this, as long as they are transparent and they listen to the request of their community then they are good to go, lets see how it goes after a few more months.

yeah and the good thing  about Bitwinup  because they are doing their best to promote their site here in bitcointalk even in outside and yeah I believe that they will be bringing more for the community of this forum because  I think they are not stopping here instead this was just about the beginning .

Yes Transparency is the core part of growth, if they follow up with being transparent in Bitcointalk soon they will gain full trust here which will really be helpful being among the top and continuously having many using their platform and becoming an household name here.

Transparency results to good reputation. And yes, not a huge market for binary options here but there are only few competitors, the fact that they paid already a huge sum of money from the platform, that clearly says they are making good profit from this game. Actually, that will just continue to grow and they can also expand their platform to make it like a one stop shop, maybe add more providers on games and sports betting as well while still keeping their brand.

Anyone can check the transparency of the platform by logging in to their account or signing up and checking the stat and the clickable hash. So far, there has never been a time when they lacked players in every session; the game is addictive, and you can play for hours here as long as you have funds.

True and they're already building a brand here, with time in continously doing right they will become well here probably even before this year ending though this depends on their marketing strategy but as it is going now, it seems inevitable they will have become a trusted house here before year ending.

Compared to traditional casinos, when one player wins a huge amount of money, that will trigger an investigation and KYC. It's likely going to happen here as they are profit-sharing, and they are not competing against any of their players. It's player-to-player.
It's also unlikely they will have complaints, and if they do, I hope they can address the issue in a timely manner.

There is a new update on the platform they now have a fun mode where you can test the platform you can access the fun mode by going here and claiming your $1000 free meme coin to use on the play mode platform

https://bitwinup.com/bitcoin-15-demo

You mean it's unlikely? Well, they can't really ask for KYC because, as advertised on their website, they are a decentralized platform, and KYC kills decentralization. In my opinion, a decentralized platform that suddenly requires KYC is a sign of a scam. If anyone experiences this, we should inform the community immediately, not only on this site but on other sites as well.


This is worth trying, I'm glad there's a demo.

The predict the price trading platform is becoming popular there are two platforms now on this gambling section the one comes from user @Cryptokobi the only difference is the prizes are NFT and their token both platforms have different features but the concept is the same.
I see more platforms coming in with similar concepts like Bitwinup because there is a market for this and it's easy to play and make money for players.

Hi robelneo, Thank you for the update you provided.

Sorry, sometimes we have other work so we are late announcing updates here, but our commitment is create a great trading experience and we are always hard working to update our platform. We love hearing smart suggestions from the bitcointalk community

Best Regards

Peter

With the new improvement massive, marketing should follow to create another wave of awareness and to be more competitive, there's no competition in this kind of model but continuous branding is good for branding any kind of marketing will help get the platform to the minds of the gambling community who always welcome new concept.

Congratulations on the updates and improvements this is a sign that the platform is gearing up for long-term existence in the gaming and trading industry, the best improvement so far is adding a demo account for new users to try the platform, when there is a new concept people are curious by allowing them to try their platform with a demo account they will know if this is the kind of concept worth adding to their gaming experience.
I'm looking forward to more improvements and upgrades coming from the community keep up the good work.

Thank you for your great suggestions, we have noted and will forward to our marketing team


Thank you, our team continues to work hard and bitwinup will become the number 1 trading arena.

We are always happy to hear suggestions and feedback from the bitcointalk community

Best Regards,

Peter

Here is a glimpse of the interface of the new dashboard, the pace is very fast so I recommend trying the demo first then when you know the mechanics you try the actual.

Thanks Rob,

Demo mode can be used by new users to learn about the features we have. Additionally, it can be used to test trading strategies without risk.

We will continue to add more features in the future. Stay tuned

Best Regards,

Peter

Wow anytime I spent few time away from this thread/platform I see others amazing features, thus is do amazing from user interface to the experience, Bitwinup continues to show they really mean business, I love it.
Good job from the entire team

Thank you for your words

We always innovate and continue to be the best. The bitcointalk community helped us a lot with great suggestions

Best Regards,

Peter

It seems like there have been lot of updates since I last played here. Maybe I should look at again and try my luck here. It's great to see you continuing to provide updates and add new features

Indeed there are many updates. More are coming too. They are also relaunching their campaigns in the bitcointalk community. As per my understanding the core team is always working on their product to improve the customer experiences.

Continue your support for Bitwinup.

Bitwinup is a long-term project the many updates and how they value the community's feedback prove that the team is serious about gaining ground in this industry, and maybe soon we will see more similar platforms like Bitwinup and we could say that Bitwinup is starting this trend, I hope to see Bitwinup in the same popularity like stand-alone platform like Crashgame.
We don't know if there's a possibility if they can add more coins or tokens to their platform.

Thank you for playing at Bitwinup


Royse, thank you for your words and thanks for helping our team so much. You're the best one  ;)


We are optimistic about being pioneers. As for adding coins or tokens, we can't say much at this time, but of course we have big plans  ;)

Best Regards,


Peter

Of course, you are always ahead if you're the original one if there are platforms from different companies that come out with similar models it will have to show far better features because what you have now is what traders and gamblers are enjoying.
Whatever these big plans I'm sure that it is something the community will watch out for in the future.

Thanks Rob, We always try to be the best. We feel like we have a good community here so we always try to do the best we can. We will announce here if we make updates or add new features

Regards,

Peter

Yeah please do, I feel that the next best move is to keep the promotion on the next level you are done with the signature campaign of course you can relaunch, a review campaign here in Bitcointalk or ask casino review sites to review the site will help move the platform to another level and gain popularity.

I haven't gambled for a while now, but I just checked out Bitwinup. Even though they have been in the forum for over two months now, I haven't checked the website. To be honest, I thought it was another generic casino, but it proved me wrong. It's more like binary trading which is gambling as well.

It's nice that they did not pick ETH mainnet or other expensive network. To be honest, this is the first time I heard about playnance network. Seems like they have some good options to make a deposit already. But I thought I would be able to play with USDC on the polygon network. Or am I missing something?


Besides that, they could collaborate with the review sites as well. For example, you will notice that Casinoguru and other websites always release some exclusive promo code for their users only. I am sure their new users love this. But, to be honest, the number of abuse is huge which is why casinos add more and more restrictions.

As @royse said, our marketing team has talked to Royse and maybe we will relaunch the campaign. For campaign reviews or anything else, we wait for our marketing team to make a decision


Thank you for your words. Yep, Bitwinup is a trading arena

Best Regards,

Peter

I don't know if Bitwinup expects massive traffic from this forum or not. But you can still explain to your marketing team the main purpose of this forum. This forum is not for massive traffic. This is the oldest forum still operating, which was started by the founder of Bitcoin. There are a lot of Bitcoin OG's. You don't have to convince many players to play on your platform, but a handful of Bitcoin OGs are enough.

The problem is that big players who have more than a couple of Bitcoins do not play everywhere especially not on new platforms. They try the casinos with which they are familiar. If you check the service section, you will notice that there are some campaigns which have been running for a couple of years already. Do you think they are running just for traffic? Of course no. They are here to build a solid reputation and want to be in front of the Bitcoin old-timers!

If you can stay on a platform for a year without any scam accusations, that is positive and that's where people will start to have trust your services. I am not an expert about these things and I do not have any stats to back my claims. But, I guess the managers will agree with me.

Of course we have considerations and evaluations so we decided to  pause our signature campaign. We feel there are several things that need improvement, including updates to our site.

This forum is the best forum in the crypto community, that's why we are here. Of course we have many strategies but we cannot share them with the public. Our marketing team also talks a lot with royse777. We welcome all suggestions and we will take note of them.

Thanks Learn Bitcoin
Best Regards,

Peter

That has been my recommendation ever since to stay clean, transparent, and receptive to the community, always addressing all the concerns, and open to feedback so far they are doing fine all requests have been granted or will be granted all concerns answered.
I hope they keep doing this even if they have reached their goal of being one of the popular gaming and trading platforms.

We all should respect your privacy. Yeah, I know that each company has its own secret marketing strategy. Nobody wants to share their strategy with the public, which may increase competitors. Platforms have their unique strategy; if they share it publicly, it no longer remains unique. If you guys are already in touch with campaign managers, I guess they will provide you with good guides.


The only way to survive is, to be honest and clean. There are a lot of platforms. You need a reason to pick one of them over others. If you see there are platforms that do not have any scam accusations and have been running smoothly for a year, and others has some scam accusations, of course you will pick the clear one.

Consistency would be the key on which if they would really be able to sustain or maintain this kind of interaction towards the community and keeping on having those changes or updates basing up on recommendation and suggestions by the community then they would really be having a strong chance that they would really be popular in the future. If we do tend to look at then this is solely a site that only offers or having that binary options kind of betting. Yes, there might be some other platforms but its not really that focusing into it.

I would be hoping that they would really be adding up more coins. One thing, i dont know if its just me but why the animation makes some stutter even i do have a good specced PC?

I do not think there is any scope to be scammed by a platform like Bitwinup. Everything is done on chain. Besides the team is earning from the fees of the pool for every trade. They are not holding any coin for you. So platform like this a scam protected :-D

Well, I completely forgot that it's a Web3 casino. But it's not like other Web3 platforms where you just connect your wallet and play. It's kind of different. We have to deposit there via a different blockchain and then start playing there. I have checked their platform but haven't played there yet.

By the way, I am not only talking about possible bad reputations but also about how casinos gain the trust of forum members. I guess you would agree with me that the longer casinos stay active and advertise on the forum, the more confidence the community will have that they will get support immediately if players ever face any issues. To convince players to play on their platform, they should stay around as long as possible.

That's the positive side of the web3 platform everything is done automated and in the case of Bitwinup profit comes not from beating the players but from fees from the trades so if they have a good number of players profit is guaranteed and the longevity of the platform is secured.

The referral program is great and if they couple it with good marketing they can double or triple the number of players then stability will be established, players should look at the affiliate plan not only the platform is safe to promote its also profitable to promote.

You can consider playing a session with some funds, I am sure you will enjoy it.

Plans are placed, soon you will see more coming from Bitwinup, at-least this is what I can assure that we had in our discussion the last time with the management.

Well, I won't mind trying their platform but unfortunately, the website is too slow at this moment. It is probably because of my shitty internet. I will try later to access their website and check again. As far as I remember, their minimum bet is 10 dollars, which is kind of high for me, or am I wrong? Usually, I start playing with small amounts when I play games like dice, mines, and binary trade. I would be happy to start placing $1 per bet for now.

This is just a recommendation why not create an official thread on another forum I have seen some popular casinos on the other forum with existing threads there, every forum has its community and you just need to update it once or twice a week, I also hoping to see many good reviews from other casino review platforms.
I'm also going to promote the platform on my Facebook groups I'm hoping to get referrals because this platform is worth promoting.

This idea is good, they can also create an ANN thread at altcoinstalks, which will influence there to try it and this doesn't necessarily means they have to create a signature campaign there, since there are other casino ANN thread there without campaign.

The referral program will also be a major boost why members  there will want to invite others to play the game there, after their testing of the platform.

Well, this is another good thing that they may want to consider doing. I know altcoinstalks does not have any users and is not very popular. But, that is also a popular forum that will stand after the Bitcointalk forum in terms of ranking. So, if they create an ANN and update the community with the latest updates and promotions, that will be good as well.

Most of the mixers that used to promote their service on Bitcointalk have moved to Altcoinstalks. They have been running their signature campaigns as well. Of course, they ar getting some positive results which is why they are still running their campaigns.

You can play with $1 and this was created for those who want to try their platform, Bitwinup caters to every type of trader and gambler, the lowest used to be $5 but because of the request of the community they have added the $1 option the timer is 5 seconds so you have to be quick thinking when playing on this pool and it's my favorite but looking forward to bet other on other pool.

https://talkimg.com/images/2024/06/06/cmkk1.png (https://talkimg.com/image/cmkk1)

Thank you for your input. Yes, we will fix it and our site will be faster after the next update. Thank you for playing at bitwinup

Best Regards,

Peter

I have not check the site lately but it looks like now we have many options and the range of stake is more too. This a good update.

Oh, wow, is this from the beginning? Or did they just update their website recently? When I checked their website I saw the minimum wage was $10. This is why I did not make any deposit, and I thought I would ask them to reduce the Minimum bet limit. If that was from the beginning, I don't know why I was not able to see this page, but it is probably because I have tried demo mode or I don't know what.


Hey, Peter, What do you think about having an option of enabling or disabling the Animations so that users can enable and disable the animation? I guess this will be a good update.

Really indeed a good update on which you could be able to select now on the time duration. 5 seconds to 2 minutes? I cant imagine that 5 seconds prediction. lol


Why would disable? If these things could really add up that better user experience rather than on having that standstill.
Pretty sure this would really be that pertains about stuttering due to animation? I have noticed this one too but
it isnt really that much a bothersome but rather its really that giving that more engagement towards on what you are doing.

Well, this isn't bothering you does not really mean others are bothering about it. You can share your point of view while others can also do the same. Right? So, this is not a good question when you ask why would disable it. As you can see, Quidat said that he is using a good specced PC and still it's it stutters. You cannot really be able to imagine how it will work on low-end computers unless you are one of the users.

A lot of casinos already have enable/disable animation features and I am sure you are not going to ask them why they implemented such a feature because it is working fine for you and that does not bother you.

They updated the site recently. If I am not wrong then in the beginning they used to have only 15 seconds and 30 seconds trade. The interface was also not rich as it is now (not that it was dull LOL, but day by day they are improving). 

Well, you are right on here but its not really that necessary but if they would really be putting up some switch up enabling/disabling animation then that you would really be a good add up.
If someone does have that bad spec computer then it would really be struggling on showing up that animation but just like on what you had mentioned that if it stutters or having that
choppy or whatever kind of movement despite of a higher specification computer then it wont really be that a bad idea to make out that kind of switch but actually
on just what i have said that this isnt something necessary.

 ;D ;D ;D Very interesting Sir )))

It is better when posting on a casino thread to complete the information on why it is interesting based on your experience or if not yet joined then continue to sign up and explore the site, Bitwinup is a popular platform on binary and betting and they will soon have a permanent place in the industry.
The platform is addictive and yet fun to predict.

The latest update has been released and you can bet $1 starting now. As recommended by the bitcointalk community.

Of course, that sounds like good advice. We will try to discuss this with our team about the possibilities

Regards,

Peter

You agree with me, indeed. Now, when it comes to questions like whether it is necessary or not, I have something to say about it.
A business has to think about all its customers and not just a specific group. The casino is a business, and it cannot rely on only one kind of customer, like those who have high-spec PCs.

They have to think about people who use low-end PCs as well. There are Tablet and smartphone users as well. They have to make their website responsive so every group of users can use their service. If they add more options and if that does not create problems, then it is good for their business.

Checking on GTX (https://gtmetrix.com/reports/bitwinup.com/r6J4H2PG/?guest=1), they have a lower score, but if there are options to switch off the animation, the site will have a better performance. If there is an option to switch off the animation, the loading time will be shortened for users with bad specs and very slow internet connections that can impede the trading speed.
But so far, on my end, the site is loading just fine. As long as the platform is not experiencing downtime, I'm good with it.

Well, that is just an extra feature that we are talking about. Of course, they don't need to implement it. The platform is still good. So, yeah. I am also good with how it is now. I suggested that feature because there are a lot of people with low-end computers and smartphones who might find it difficult to play on their platform. So, if they can have such a feature, it will be good for their business.

Yeah, because those we think are less important are still customers and they are still bringing money in our business even some are only small but if we combine them with other small amounts it is still going to be huge. Now if we care less about them, they will feel bad and leave. We will only get shocked one day on why our sales have declined by a major percent but we don't know it's because of them.

On your example, I rarely see a game now or a software who are only available on high-spec PC's but they often support other platforms too. That is because tablets, smartphones, and other devices are now more powerful than a low-end or regular PC and the good thing is that they are much cheaper too.

Anything that can improve the users' experience is welcome to the admin; we have seen how responsive the team is in giving what the community requests, so if there are requests of this nature, the team will give it to him.
Based on the number of players, the $1 is the main option for many players. I'm glad they installed it so new players can test the site; everything is automatic here since it is a smart contract. I hope the platform will continue to improve whether there are request or not of a new feature.

Of course this is something important and we are working on it. How to our platform can have a nice and fast UI. It took us some time to implement it, and our team is working hard to make it happen

Thank you for all your words, you guys really help us move forward

Best Regards,

Peter

Yes it's important when it comes to platforms like trading and betting the user interface and the server uptime are very important once they generate traffic the team needs to keep it up and it will snowball the user interface and the server uptime are two of the feature that many players are taken into consideration when looking for a platform to play

. I would say the UI is good already, and I am glad that you guys are working on improving it further, hearing the community feedback, and making changes based on users' demands. If you make it look fancy, of course, it will take time to load because of the graphics. So, there is nothing wrong even if it gets slow down while the animation is enabled.

. Thanks to you as well, Peter, for hearing the community and engaging with the discussions!

With all the added and improved features, what better way to see how good it is in the eyes of the players than launching a review campaign? I think the site is already perfect for me, but there could be some features that other members want to see added that will make the site even better if it is done in the review campaign, review campaign has proven its effectiveness by many platforms.

Okay. I had some time today to try Bitwinup again with real funds and decided to explore the platform more. I had some difficulties understanding how to make a deposit. Because on a traditional web3 wallet, we just have to sign a message from our wallet and enter an amount that will be deposited to our account. But, on Bitwinup, they provide a deposit address, and I have to send my coins from my metamask wallet, which is pretty much the same as web2 platforms.

Now back to another thing. When I go to the website, I see this screen!

https://talkimg.com/images/2024/06/14/cBk0Z.png

When I click on Play to win crypto, It opens the trade page with a minimum of $5 per bet. Now I am wondering how you guys found the page where it shows $1 per bet? Could you please help?

Click "Play to win crypto" and you can use metamask and connect with bitwinup. A very simple way, we think. Thank you for playing at bitwinup

Best Regards,

Peter

There is a button that you can click with a Bitcoin logo in red, and it will show up boxes. and on these boxes, you will have the option on the length of time that you want to bet on your trade

https://talkimg.com/images/2024/06/15/c8SSw.png (https://talkimg.com/image/c8SSw)

https://talkimg.com/images/2024/06/06/cmkk1.png (https://talkimg.com/image/cmkk1)

Oh dear.

Thank you for the screenshot. Well, Now I have figured out a couple of glitches. Either this is the glitch from Bitwinup, or it was my internet. The dropdown button wasn't showing yesterday for me. Not only this button but when I clicked on Transfer, I did not find the close button to close the window. It takes time to load the page, which is why the button wasn't there. Look at these two screenshots below for better understanding. The last screenshot was taken today.

https://talkimg.com/images/2024/06/15/cKdFv.png https://talkimg.com/images/2024/06/15/cKSjd.png

I guess it was your internet connection that did not load all the components of the front page. It looks fine to my side however I am going to send the post URL to the management just in case there were something for them to check.

Well, I am disappointed with the Playnance blockchain, as it's super slow. It's been three days that I have been trying to play at Bitwinup, and unfortunately, I couldn't place a single bet. Playnance blockchain takes a lot of time to confirm a transaction, even though I have used aggressive fees to confirm my transaction as soon as possible.

As you can see in the screenshot, Yesterday, I approved the spending twice, but it took a lot of time, and I could not play. When I entered the website, I saw that the transaction was completed, but when I tried to place a bet, it asked for approval again, and now, it's taking forever to complete the transaction.

https://talkimg.com/images/2024/06/16/cOmff.png

Strange I have not experienced this when I first deposited and succeeding deposits Playnance based on their specification it should be flexible and efficient
https://www.playnance.com/usdp.html
I hope the developer can address this issue on where it's coming from I will deposit later and see if I encounter the same issue as yours hopefully by the time I deposit the issue is resolved so you can try the game.
But do update us when it's resolved.

Yep. I don't know what was wrong with that. But it took me too long. As you can see, I had to approve the spending a couple of times before placing trade bets there. But fortunately, it worked well for me after the latest approval and I did not have any other problems. But I was getting a "Global error" every time I tried to place a bet while the approval was pending.

I enjoyed it as long as I played. I have won a couple of trades, but later I lost all of them. The experience was quite good except for the transaction approval part. But cannot blame bitwinup for that because they do not have control over the blockchains.

I deposited a small amount to see first if I encounter the error that you encountered I used Matic it took less than a minute to get credited I chose the $1 option and everything seems smooth may I know what betting price are you betting? and what options did you use to deposit, deposits on Crypto is fast and smooth
The $1 is very challenging indeed you have to be fast and quick thinking the interface and the loading is still good
I won in my first tries but lost everything in succeeding.
I'll deposit again and play Matic deposit is smooth I recommend it beside USDT

https://talkimg.com/images/2024/06/18/h2xnq.png (https://talkimg.com/image/h2xnq)

Well, I have a deposit using Matic as well and It didn't take too much time to get credited. As you can see, I do not have any complaints about the deposit. At first, I was not able to switch the betting category. The default bet was $10 and then you have provided the screenshot of where I can change the betting time and the amount. I was able to switch the category but still I couldn't place bet and I was getting Global error because the spending approval was pending for a long time. I had to approve three times to be able to start placing bets. But as I said, I don't want to blame Bitwinup for that because they do not control the blockchain.

Have you tried all the betting options I only tried the $1 and the $5 betting options and I have not encountered any problem with these options,  try the $1 and the $5 options and see if you encounter any issues once I hit the button the contract was immediately signed I hope the admin can address this issue if its a bug or just coming from the user's end.

No. I tried only $1 to $5 bets as my deposit was only $6 or something to try the platform first. But I made it to over $10+ and then lost them all. When we place a 5-second bet, you have 15 seconds in hand to pick your choice, and you have to be fast because you have to approve the contract within these 15 seconds. I missed the time a couple of times, and my contract sign was rejected. But cannot blame them for that because it happened due to my slow internet connection. I was getting the global error because of the initial approval. I had to approve the transactions and it was pending for a while due to blockchain load.

That could be the reason, there are players playing if there is an internal issue the dashboard would have shown no players and I also have no problem with my bet as when I hit the button the contract was immediately signed will play later and post my experience again, the Playblock blockchain is new in the gaming industry it claimed to be fast and gas less.

I also did not have any problems after the approval. It didn't take time for me to sign the contract as well. One more thing I noticed today is that Bitwinup is Certik Audited already. I have been farming Certik airdrop lately, and when I visited Bitwinup today, I noticed it was audited by Certik already. We haven't seen their representative these days. Probably they are busy working on their platform. I don't know if Bitwipup want to establish them as a Casino or Just a trading platform. But as their ANN is in gambling section, I believe they claim to be a casino. What is the possibility of adding various games apart from trading? Is there any chance?

I believe they are both trading and gambling, but since you are betting, they can also be classified as a casino; and about the possibility of adding games that will defeat their purpose as a trading casino, but why not if there are demands and they want to go further it's possible.

We have seen casinos adding new games and new features because they want to be competitive and keep up with what gamblers need, to keep up in time.

Actually with this kind or type of trading could really be that considered as gambling on which we know that when it comes into the duration on which you would really be needing up to guess on where
 price could go then this is something that will really be not applicable for any strategies that you could be able to apply with. On the moment that you would be finding too short on trying out to make guess
then it would really be considered to be gambling on this kind of trading set up or simply with Binary options like trading. Speaking about adding up any game then it would really be that still considerable on which same as you said that if theres a demand into the community or with the market about adding up some games which is not only really just that with binary options but other games which could caught up
community's attention.

Yes, that is what they say that trading is like a gambling but trading can involve a skill or a strategy and you can also apply it here in this trading game, in order to increase your chances of winning. Binary options may look like it is fast-paced but if we can analyse the market earlier, that can help us to decide better.

The number of platforms like this are only low and a little improvement in the user interface, costumer support, or something and then a good marketing can already do a big thing for them already, even without adding new kinds of games because that can make them not different anymore from the existing casinos. 

This is bitwinup. The Ultimate Crypto Trading Arena  ;)

Thank you for your words

Regards,

Peter

Well, if the business can make a profit by adding other games, then it is not bad. I know a lot of platforms started with only one game, but later they added a lot of games, like building their own in-house games and adding third-party games. They did it because their community asked to add 3rd party games and various kinds of games. I am not going to mention any names, of course.

But since Bitwinup introduces itself as an ultimate crypto trading arena, we shouldn't expect them to add other games if they do not announce anything like that. To be honest, this is the first trading website I have seen with such UI.

They have already confirmed now that they want to be known only as a Crypto trading arena, and they want to be known in the gambling community as such if ever they are going to add more features or games, it will be to enhance their platform as The Ultimate Crypto Trading Arena.
So far, they are the only dedicated Crypto Trading Arena here in Bitcointalk.

Yep. But still, this is an interesting platform to trade. I don't know what should I call it. Is it a spot trading? or is a binary trading? It is pretty much similar to binary trading. I have traded on many binary platforms with names like xxOptions, xxOptions. But those platforms are not fancy like this one. But those platforms have a lot of trading pairs. While bitwinup focuses on Bitcoin trading Which will make Bitcoiners interested in their platform. I am curious about their progress. Even though I know it takes time to get attention of the BitcoinTalk community.

I think they are doing great they do not have complaints coming from their users so far; they have two markets to target the gambling and the trading sectors.

So much depends on marketing stuff if it's new and you are the only one in the industry with this kind of concept then you will have a breakthrough but branding is important.

I noticed that the contact page is not visible on the homepage you can access it if you are logged in I hope they will include it or have a link on the home page even if you are not logged in it will help the visitors to communicate if they have something to ask about the platform.

https://bitwinup.com/contact_us

Probably they did it intentionally to reduce the spam. Not only Bitwinup but a lot of platforms closed the support chat for visitors only. You won't be able to contact them if you are not logged in. The reason behind it is, if a player is logged in, the support agent can see his username and emails and they don't have to ask questions to check your profile.

Just imagine you are working on support and every time a customer comes to your support chat, you have to ask their username and email. If a user is already logged in, you can see his username. So it helps drop the workload. Not sure if Bitwinup did this for the same reason. I haven't tried their live support. I didn't even need it.

I also don't have issues with Bitwinup It is one of the platforms I played that is stress-free, depositing and withdrawing is a breeze but what I mean is a recommendation to post where to contact them like a link or a social media page or a link here in Bitcointalk, so visitors will know where to reach them before they sign up in case they want to ask something about the platform.

Whether its logged in or not, if there would really be some issues that been raised or been that complained about then it would really be that better if they would really be having such option.
Well, it would really be just that depending on how they would really be dealing up with things on which it would really be that depending on them whether they would really be having that kind of set up or not.
It would be impossible that there would really be having no contact page or links given considering that this business isnt something that would be that exempt on possible issues or any other platforms.
Whether its logged in or not then it would really be just that best that it would really be always that available because having with those kind of access or availability will really be giving out that kind of ease of mind.

Well, You have written a lot just to explain that they should have contact options for everyone. No matter if the user is logged in or not. But, I am sure you never worked as support on any kind of platform before or you do not have experience managing those platforms. Usually, people contact them just to ask silly questions which they can easily know by doing a little search or by doing a little research. So, keeping it disabled decreases the workload of the support agents who write back to the users. If I have something to tell them, I should log in and report them about it.

It's not actually a big or immediate concern, but I'm pretty sure that the dev will address this, the most important is the site is working perfectly all parameters for a good Crypto trading arena are here, transactions whether deposits or withdrawals are good and the most important thing is there is no complaint, having no complaint will establish the reputation of the site in the gambling community.

This is basically what it means to stay updated and provide what I should say is unique service and not every casino actually do this so the ones that do are the one's that stand out because gamblers themselves are always keen on looking for that perculiar casino that's had all the newly added games and of course lots of promotion too.

That is a good point Danny!
But as long as a platform wants to establish them as an exclusive trading casino and not like every other traditional casino, you cannot really force them to do what you want. But I agree with you that now players want one one-stop zone for their online gambling. They don't want to jump from one to another platform to gamble. For example, if you want to bet on sports like baseball, you have to find a bookmaker. Sometimes you want to play poker on live games. Sometimes you want to play some slots and sometimes you may want to trade. But, unfortunately, you have t jump from here to there for your needs. But I have seen a couple of platforms already and they are tying to have as many options as possible.

There's always an exception Bustabit is a stand-alone crash game and it is a success they are already in its tenth year, we must admit Bitwinup is a new concept and a new player in the industry but if it keeps on and continues with its marketing, and branding it's only a matter fo time before they get into the consciousness and attention of the gambling industry.

I just noticed when login and planning to play that they have a new interface on the pool; they have the $2.50 option now, and you can see all the number of players on all pools; the old one is you can only see the number of players in a particular pool, so when starting to bet you will see all the players in all the pool but after you choose the pool that's the time you will see the number of players, I guess they are improving their interface.

https://talkimg.com/images/2024/06/29/hq1PC.png (https://talkimg.com/image/hq1PC)

Not only bustabit, but there are other platforms as well which have started with a single game and they continued their business with it. You can take Duckdice as an example as well which has been running with just a dice game and they added sportsbetting lately. I did not want to mention any names here. But, since they are not the competitor of Bitwinup, I don't think there will be problems.

Primedice could be another example which has been running for eleven years without any other games apart from Dice. How incredible their journey was. Even they have been hacked and the hacker stole 1 Million worth of Bitcoin back in 2014. But they are still operating their business.

Bustabit, Duckdice, and Primedice are just an example that it's possible for a platform to be a stand-alone, Bitwinup can possibly do that they are being managed by a reputable company and there's no other platform like them that is dedicated to Crypto trading arena.
It's the marketing that matters if they want to stay long in this industry, they have a good affiliate program and I'm sure they have other marketing stuff outside of this forum, they have established themselves maybe they will do a campaign here from time to time.

Site improvement process is still going on. The management wants a platform that is very user-friendly with less error. The marketing deadlines are not set yet but hopefully we will soon see a relaunch of marketing.

Time is another important thing here. I always prefer a company that has been around for a while. It proves that they are not here to fade away. If you spend too much money in a short period of time, that can give you a huge boost, but not for soo long. But, if you divide the same amount and run some campaign for a long time, you will stay on focus for a longer time. I believe the people who work with them should talk to them and their marketing manager should have a good understanding about it as well.

Yes, there is nothing wrong with taking time and making the platform error-free, new users don't want a platform with a lot of bugs when they start to play.
So far since they started their thread here, there's been a lot of improvement, and all suggestions by players that are posted have been implemented, this is to prove to everybody that the developers are listening to suggestions that will improve the users' experience.

True. But that is where platform owners make mistakes. They cannot wait to launch their platform and rush to run it as soon as possible. The devs do not get enough time to check their codes and sometimes they run websites with errors. I have played on a lot of casinos especially right after they launch, and I made some money from those bug bounties as well.

They should run their platform on stage before they run it on production so they can minimize the bugs and errors. As for Bitwinup, I don't remember getting too many errors in the short time I played there. I appreciate their work anyway.

So far, the $1, which is the 5 seconds, and the 15 seconds with the minimum bet of $5 had the most players, so from this, we can gather that most players treat this like a Crash game. There's not much analysis, and they based it on luck.

50 players played today, which is still good. The top traders played with over 2300 trades.
I think doing more marketing will increase the number, although the platform is already earning a good and steady profit from these stats.

When it's just 5 or 15 seconds, I don't think there is much to research about. It's purely based on luck. But when the market is on a downtrend like today, you should predict multiple downpool wins in a row. This can exceed 20 bets in a row. But still, there is nothing to research about the 15-second movement. No one can predict that with a guarantee.

Oh wow. Where did you get the stats? I don't think the platform shares how much they made from them. I guess you predict that they are making money from these trades, right?

You can find that here https://bitwinup.com/leaderboard there are stats for today, this week, the whole month, and all the time you need to log in to access all the players' and the site's stats; the stats are not showing outside of the site, could have been better if they show it from the outside and also the contact us page.
I hope that's the next update that they are going to implement.

Thanks for the info buddy.
I don't have any problem login to contact support because as I said before, they do it for a reason. The support agents have to waste a lot of time asking what their username is, what is their email, and some other information. But when a user is already logged in, the support agent can get the information right after they contact support. As for stats, yeah, they can make it visible for everyone as people may get interested in playing after seeing the stats.

I was just checking the leader-board without connecting my wallet, it seems I can see it. The raws are #, Player, Trades, Trade Wins, Win Ratia and Net profit. You can see till the date, today, this week and this month's data. What other stats you have in mind?

I think @Learn Bitcoin has in mind showing the link to the stats on the homepage for visitors to see; on my first few days on the site, I had to roam around to check and look for the stats. The stats will appeal to visitors if only they can see them on the homepage.

I guess it's enough already. But if they have something in mind, I won't mind seeing them there as well. What I noticed is, that you can actually sort out the list by clicking on the title of each stat. If you want to sort the list by win ratio, Just click on Win ratio and it will sort out for you. The website is already showing the stats for the last 24 hours' wins, Win ratio, live players, and all-time wins as well, which should be enough as stats. I guess opening an On-site chat would be a good idea. But only if they want!

It would be better if they could make it available on the homepage even without connecting your wallet first, but on the contrary, they want visitors to explore the site by making everything within the site. it's more like enticing them to come in, as everything is available when you are inside.
Every platform has a different ideas on how they present it to the community.

If I am not wrong, I guess yesterday I did not connect my wallet but I was able to see those stats. But unfortunately, I cannot access the website for some reason. I tried Google Chrome browser and Microsoft Edge. But when I try to access the website, it shows white blank page for me. Please see the screenshot below for reference. Note that I have tried using a VPN as well. But, I was unable to access the website.

https://talkimg.com/images/2024/07/09/o1uKo.png

If anything wrong then it's from your side. In my side I can see the site is functional. The problem could be any extension, not having Javascript enable, your internet connection etc. Try using some other browsers.
https://talkimg.com/images/2024/07/09/o1Ic2.png

Now this is something weird.
Let me tell you what I have tried to access their website. I tried Firefox, Google Chrome, Microsoft Edge, and Tor as a last browser. I tried enabling a VPN as well. But, all I get is a white blank screen and a Black Blank screen on the Tor browser. I thought this was something temporary and did not want to waste my time by doing troubleshooting. I thought everything would be fixed next time. But, I was wrong. I am still unable to access the website for some reason. Now, I will try on different devices.

The site is working and up here on my end if you want to know if the site is up or down or on maintenance you can check using these tools

https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/bitwinup.com?proto=https

https://www.isitdownrightnow.com/bitwinup.com.html

Sometimes its in your connection even if the site is up and it looks down on your end

Finally.
I was able to access the website, and I think it is my internet speed that caused the issue. For example, right now, I tried to access the website, and the browser screen was a blank page at first, and then it started to load again. Note that I am connected to a VPN at this moment. So, it's also possible that my ISP did something with it or it's just my internet speed.

@Robelneo, I just checked that the stats are available for everyone even without connecting the wallet.

Yes of course but what I mean is the stat is available when you know the links because it is not visible on the home page and for you to get the links you have to log in and connect your wallet to get the links of the stats. Hopefully, the stats links will be made available on the homepage for easy access.

I got you. But we don't know if they think it's necessary or not. But as far as we can see, they care about the community feedback and work as we wish. I have no problems if they keep it like how it is now. I can still see the stats without even connecting my wallet.

I am avoiding doing trades for the last couple of weeks. Especially when Mt. Gox moved 47K Bitcoins to a different wallet address. The market is kind of down trends at this moment and I believe most of the short trades will be on the down side. As for now, I am just watching the market.

But still, the platforms have active traders. There are more traders now than it was last week. I guess because of the present market condition, traders/bettors take the risk because they thought it was easy to analyze the market; there is an ongoing sellout by the German government, so we can expect the market to still be in the downtrend.

Probably yes. But the thing is, I always try to avoid over-trade. Over-trade sometimes makes a lot of money for you. But on the other side, you can loss a lot as well. When the market is down trend, you never know how many down pools can win in a row, especially when it's 5 or 15 seconds pools. People can sell only for more than ten minutes and Imagine you get all the reds. It will dig your entire balance if you don't know what is going on. Once you loss a good amount of money, it takes a lot of time to recover. Sometimes you should take a break from trading and start again with a cool mindset.

I just mentioned that the market will be on the downtrend because of Germany's sellout, but look at the chart now, There was an increase of 2.3% I was about to buy and taking the downtrend as an opportunity but the sudden changes makes me change my mind.
I haven't check  the platform yet but based on the stats there are many who got the trend on the market in the last 48 hours https://bitwinup.com/leaderboard

Yesterday, I learned that not Germany but one of its states is selling those Bitcoins because it has no choice. The state has also almost ended its selling. They have only 4,500 BTC at this moment, which will end up in exchanges in the next two weeks. I believe this news affected the market a little bit, and traders gained some confidence.

So, I am not surprised that Bitcoin again started to accumulate. But here is another warning, Bitcoin will start going down again when if Mt. gox start to pay their users which should take less than two months to start distributing.

Yes after ten years we expect the price of Bitcoin to dip again, the claimants are so lucky imagine
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/07/05/mt-gox-begins-repaying-bitcoin-to-creditors-a-decade-on-from-collapse.html

These people are the luckiest people in the community. If you have at least $1 Bitcoin and you live in a third-world country, that's already your retirement pay; I think many players on Bitwinup are fully aware of this scenario, so they have their strategy ready.

You may know already that I am from a 3rd world country, but unfortunately, I did not know anything about Bitcoin a decade ago. Probably, I was just a school student with no income, no internet connection, and no smartphones or devices. So, I cannot blame myself but my luck that I wasn't aware of Bitcoin at the beginning. Do you know why Bitcoin started pumping again for the last two days? It's because the media reported that Germany is selling their Bitcoin, and their Bitcoin wallet balance is less than 0.005 at this moment. The traders got some confidence and started to buy again. So, Bitwinup players should prepare for more up-pool wins.

The market scenario is now changing to a positive one. In the past, when there was a big dump coming from a big seller, small investors would follow the action. Now, even if there is a big sell-off, the investors are not swayed but show confidence by buying more; I read that Mt Gox will take three months to pay their creditors, depending on the exchange they used to claim their payment.

I expect the market during this time to experience challenges for traders depending on the receiver's decision if they want to sell or hold their coin.
But will you hold or sell after waiting for ten years?

I am not a Mt. Gox victim and I am not going to get anything from it. But if you ask me, Personally I will sell some of it and Hold at least half of it unless I need emergency money. As for average opinion, Most people will end up selling it because they will consider it as lost money that just recovered and most of them did not have any hope of getting it back. But since they got it, they will rush to cash it as soon as possible. Bitwinup traders should keep in mind that and follow the news so they know which pools are going to have most wins.

I'm also not a Mt Gox victim, but if I am and receive my Bitcoin, I will withdraw half of it and build my retirement business while retaining half while waiting for Bitcoin to reach $1 million; I only hope that Bitcoin reaches $1 million in my lifetime, but even if it doesn't, I have my children who will inherit and enjoy the profit.

I'm sure those traders at Bitwinup are fully aware of the impact of this news on the market, so they can develop a strategy on how to proceed.

I don't see Bitcoin reaching 1 Million anytime soon. But I am not saying that it's not possible. I have seen that Mt. Gox victims who have chosen Kraken to get their payment have already started receiving emails saying that it would take two weeks to get credited. So, I assume Kraken will start distributing their Bitcoin in two weeks, and some of those people will surely start selling it.

I will be very much happy if they do not tell anyone even after selling because as you know, a news has an impact on the market. I noticed how altcoins were bleeding right after the transfer of German Bitcoin and Mt. Gox first Bitcoin movement.

I don't see it either, but every year is a different scenario in the market. One thing that we've proven in the case of Germany and soon Mt.Gox is that the community is mature enough not to cause panic because Germany, after dumping a considerable amount of Bitcoin the market immediately recovered after that dump.
Even if they don't tell it, the market will reflect the actions of those receivers, and there's nothing to be hidden because exchanges are transparent, and we all know news media like CoinTelegram are quick to take up the news  as it happen.

The case of Germany is different because the country decided to sell all of its Bitcoin. It is different from Mt.Gox. Because the receivers have different outlooks, we will see how many of them will sell and how many will just HODL. I agree there's a temptation to sell because of the profit it generated, and if you're not that rich, this is a big blessing for you.
Nothing is hidden in the market; CoinTelegram is very fast to get the news out on what happens whenever there is a sump or a spike in the price, especially if there are significant movements.

For one million it is excessive if seen today, but it is not impossible one day maybe in the next few decades might be very possible for Bitcoin to reach that price.

Yes, it can confirm this that the German case is different, they sell for the creditor from MT Gox, maybe we can predict into two, first there are those who sell and some will hold on or move their ownership to their personal wallet, but that does not mean that the pressure is not on , I think there will be sales, especially some people who want to take profits, will definitely do it.

But if the Bitcoin owner is aware that the next year is the best year for the end of the Bitcoin cycle, of course they will hold, we will pay attention to the two paths in the market.

Many people doubt about bitcoin before but many times bitcoins growth made those people realize that they are wrong. That's why if I always read that kind of prediction I always think about there's possibility that it will come. Since first bitcoin supply is limited to 21 million maximum supply. And if there would be more bigger reach and adopted then guess what will happen to bitcoin at that time. Demand would became more bigger and that could lead for a price growth.

German case is different its just some people sensualize that incident and if they want to sell then let them be. We see that it didn't move the market and people need to move on in that cases. On Mt.Gox creditors case I guess its up for us to find out and somehow we need to be prepared to catch the dip if there would be a massive sell off gonna happen, but same with other things happen this will not affect much the market since for sure that there's still a good recovery will happen if there's a dump would came. Many people will continue to hold bitcoin is one of the best asset to have and for sure those bitcoin investor won't miss their chance to save for future.

You can make passive income here in Bitwinup if you refer active traders. You can also make profits up to the third tier, so you have a choice of referring traders or active promoters. Either way, you're going to make passive income.

Here is the stat of their active affiliates.

A friend invited me here. Do we have a tutorial or a video guide on this platform works very interesting fro traders who loves risks.

You can find everything on the menu when you sign up. How it works: Faq stats are on the left side of your profile. You can click the three lines there, and you will be directed to everything you want to know about the platform. It's hidden on the front page but visible when you are part of the platform.

Interesting. I always check the trading pool but during the past few days, people have been betting using the $25 or more pool, I guess these are long time players who started from small pool them move up to higher pools since they are now confident on their predictions.

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Actually, it takes time to gather some confidence in yourself. Sometimes players show overconfidence when they get some news earlier than others. For example, when I heard the news that MT. Gox started to distribute the funds again, I thought Bitcoin would start to dump again and we would have another buying opportunity. I did not have enough balance to start a leverage trade at that time, but I am sure a person will open a position if they get early news about the market. I thought the market would move down. But look, the market is almost stable in the last couple of days. It's moving sideways. Glad to know that people started to place big bets!

BTW, Just got back from 6 days Internet Blackout

That's what many expect to what's going to happen, but we have seen the Germany scenario where the market remained unmoved despite them dumping a huge portion of their Bitcoin since there is a parameter and condition set forth by My. Gox to their claimants, the market will not have a disruption, so I expect traders on Bitwinup will not be swayed by what they feel but what's the news that is happening.

It's good to have you back, bro. I hope the situation in Bangladesh will normalize. Just keep safe and pray in these trying times

Bro, you really did not notice the movement. Bitcoin was at 68K or around it when the German government decided to sell their Bitcoin. Then the market started to go down and it touched the lowest price of 54K. This is the truth but I had to sell some of my portion because I had some debt. I started to realize that 54K was the lower lowest where I sold my Bitcoin. So, all I wanted to say is, the market is moved very hard when the German government started to sell Bitcoin.

Anyways, Players who place 5 seconds to one minute bets, they should not be afraid of the market to much as it does not really matter for them. But you should always keep in mind that you can get longer winning or losing streaks.

Yeah, I slept on it, but the market did recover, so do you think it is a different scenario now, or will it be like the German dumping? The distribution will start today, but compared to Germany's scenario, the UK customers will not be part of the first set of distribution.
Some experts believe there will be no crazy selling like what happened with the Germans because they all already made a profit, but do they all share the same sentiment?
I think the market will have a slight dip but will eventually rebound much faster compared to what happened last month.
It's going to be a tricky trade for Bitwinup users this whole week.

I have heard that Mt. Gox users will have some lock period on their Bitcoin so they cannot sell it instantly. That is because they don't want to impact on the market too much. We all know that the market will move a little just because of the news. But, some sources said that users won't be able to sell it instantly. So, there will be no mass selling after the distribution. If this is true, then I think Bitcoin will go sideways for a long time because those users will continue to dumo their Bitcoin for a long time. No matter if they share same sentiment or not. But, since the scarcity is increasing every month, Bitcoin economy will continue to grow as new investors are continue to coming to the market.

Its good if they have something like that feature since its no sense at all if majority of them will unload immediately their bitcoin since it possibly could move the price of bitcoin plus provably these news will create a lot more panic since lots of people easily get carried out by the news they read online and some may think that this is risky situation that's why there might be a lot of people will join to dump their bitcoin.

We could able to see that bitcoin still recovering back and we can say that everything is fine even if there's a sort of repayment for their creditors happen. People are now open minded on the news and just think about everything is fine even if there's some developments happen on Mt.gox.

If they don't have those kinds of guidelines, there will be chaos and panic, and the implementor will be blamed for paying all their claimants in one go because this market is still safe and can easily rebound if even half of the claimants dump it.

But I'm sure all claimants are fully aware of the consequences of their action if all of them dump their shares, so they will opt to dump a portion or do it later; if I'm a claimant, I will sell 10% and just sell later, but I will retain a big portion for future profit.

I don't know the legitimacy of that news because I have heard it from another forum member. He said that the distributed funds will have a lock period, and they won't be able to dump it all right after they receive it. I agree that it makes sense because We saw how the market moves when many people dump their Bitcoin simultaneously. The German Bitcoin affected the market very hard and touched its lowest of 54K. If Mt. Gox users receive their funds without any lock period and they can sell all their Bitcoins, you will see that Bitcoin will touch 30K range or even lower. But I hope that won't happen. We expecting something good.

This is the article that fully explains the lock-in period. It varies based on the exchange claimants are going to use

Mt Gox creditors may have to wait for up to three months to receive their bitcoin (https://www.theblock.co/post/303624/mt-gox-creditors-may-have-to-wait-for-up-to-three-months-to-receive-their-bitcoin)

This is to protect the market's impact in case the majority of them choose to sell their shares.
With the locking period, the market is safe from panic.

Thanks for the link buddy. I did not read it yet but I will check it after writing this post. So, this is not just a rumour but it's a legit news that the Mt. Gox victims will have a lock period of their funds which will help the Bitcoin market. So far, there is nothing to be worry about. But I am still concerned because what if all of them get the funds with a 90 days lock period and what if all of their funds get unlocked at the same time and they start to dump? I guess having a lock period should depend on their balance and the system should be like vesting system. So, they cannot dump all their bitcoin at the same time. But I will have a look at that article.

I see this approach differently than you.

Panic will always occur when people see like 5,000 BTC, 10,000 BTC is deposited from a personal wallet to an exchange address. This approach to prolong distribution to Mt.Gox victims will expand the uncertain period in the market for several months. If they distribute bitcoin all at one time, market will be panic and have a price fall but after that, it will surely recover.

Who sell will sell, who hold will hold, no more reason to be panic but prolonged distribution means the pain will be prolonged to the future too. It can be used to manipulate the market and play as a barrier to prevent Bitcoin take-off too soon. We will likely see a take off in 2025, not in 2024.

We can only speculate on what will be the sentiment of the market but experts opinions believe that the prolong distribution will not hamper the bullish trend of the market but of course we have to see what will be the result of this prolong distribution.

Bitcoin Hits $65K Shaking Off Mt. Gox Payout Worries; (https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2024/07/16/bitcoin-hits-65k-shaking-off-mt-gox-payout-worries-xrp-leads-crypto-rally/)

We are going to see many new Bitcoin millionaires soon. I wonder if these people ever thought they will have their coins back?

There will be sells pressure. If I was one of them, I would consider to cash out at-least a small portion. I guess it's takes ages for bitcoin to have another true bull run, even after the last halving.

I would have do the same thing I guess. I don't think anyone cares about the market when they need money, All they know is they want their cash. It's true that most of them did not expected to get their funds back after almost a decade. But, they are lucky that they are getting their funds back even after a long time.

If you talk about bull run, I considered it as pre-bull run since Bitcoin first touched 60K range. Altcoins were pumping a lot. But most of those altcoins are down 200% from where they were. A lot of bad news affected the market and that is the reason we haven't touched 80K range yet. I won't be surprised if we revisit 50K in the next coming months.

I call it a stroke of luck; some of them hope or expect to get their coins back, but not at a price that they expect. It's like hitting a jackpot in a casino. I'm sure all of these people are excited to have their coins back. I hope some of them are part of our community and post here about their experience and the process.

Cashing out is the right thing to do, but given how Bitcoin has performed in the market all these years, you would not cash out all of it. You expect a better price in the future; that's when you will cash out.

Yes, I have seen a couple of them in this forum, including a merit source who was the victim of Mt. Gox. I am sure they see the discussions about Mt. Gox, and they write their feelings as well. But I also heard that a lot of Mt. Gox victims sold their accounts for a couple of dollars because they thought it was not worth anything anymore. But, I am not sure who was the buyer and if they got some benefit from those accounts.

They are OG Bitcoiners. So, I believe they have a understanding of Bitcoin market and I want to believe that most of them will end up holding a tiny portion of their holdings for the future. We never know what could happen in the future. If you ask me, I would have hold at least 10% of it for the future.

If this is true, then they have something to regret all their lives. I wonder if they did KYC when they traded there; there is a possibility that they will contest the buyer of their account and ask for verification to recover those accounts. I mean, we never know the character of these sellers because the profit is too huge not to do something.

I think it depends on the amount of your holding back. In the old days, it was easy to hold 1 Bitcoin. I'd like to believe many of them are two-digit, four-digit holders of Bitcoin. If I had 10, I would retain 50%. I already made a huge profit from half of my share.

Yes, this is true. Even though I haven't seen any thread where the seller offered to sell their account, I have heard from some OG forum members that some Mt. Gox victims sold their accounts here and there. But we don't know who is the buyer. I also understand that old owner of that account may want to get back their account after they heard that mt. gox is going to pay them back. But I don't think it is going to work anymore because the list of victims already finalized and it cannot be changed anymore. So, no matter if they come back again and scream to get back their account.

Well, in that case, they have their whole lives to blame if they have over 10 Bitcoins on MtGox by the time they sell their account; every one of their 120k users has their story to share after they claim their Bitcoins, I'm sure we'll have a documentary on this.

Anyway, Mt.gox has an official account here. This was his last post before he passed the torch on managing the site, and this was when Bitcoin was worth only two digits.

Oh hell.
Look at that post. He wished Bitcoin would reach $10 at that time. I thought their last post would be about their platform. But it was about the guy leaving their platform and giving the account to someone else who would handle it after that post. But it never happened, and they did not post anything in this forum. Otherwise, we could have known more from Mt. Gox officials about that hack and the actions they are taking.

Anyway, the market seems to be trending down again, and I don't know if there was any updated news on the market. The only news I see from coinmarketcap.com is The U.S. Government: Silk Road DOJ Confiscated Funds (bc1qj) address transferred 29799.99011436 BTC, worth about $2.02 billion. The U.S. government currently holds 69,000 bitcoins that once belonged to Silk Road founder Ross Ulbricht and 50,676 bitcoins from Silk Road by Zhong.

I think it has something to do with the US campaign; Trump proclaimed himself as a Bitcoin supporter and has an intention of including Bitcoin as a strategic asset if he wins an election. That's when Bitcoin hit the $70k mark.
But the sudden announcement of Kamala Harris as a replacement for Biden, pulled the price down.


Bitcoin Plunges More Than 10% Since Hitting $70K 72 Hours Ago (https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2024/08/01/bitcoin-plunges-more-than-10-since-hitting-70k-72-hours-ago/)

I still fail to understand what is the relation between Kamala Harris and the Bitcoin Price. Look, bro, Trump is still there and he will be there. Biden was replaced by Kamala Harris and I don't remember Biden supporting Bitcoin. So, it does not really matter if Biden stays or not. The important thing is Trump is staying and he is a supporter of Bitcoin. I want to believe that the movement did not happen because of the Biden's stepdown.

Bitcoin moved too much in the last 24 hours. I was scrolling Facebook last night and got some notifications from a couple of exchanges and checked that Bitcoin touched the 62K range. I don't know what is new. But it's regained again and Bitcoin is standing at 64.5K again.