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I have become increasingly worried about security. First it was digital, now it's all. Of course you always have some concern, but in the past I would buy a padlock and say "Ok, it's locked and safe." Now I say, "How could one get past that lock?" and I try my hardest to break it. I had an example today, a rep from a security company was setting up a security system in this house. I just kept thinking "How would I get past all of this?" So I kept asking him questions, and finally got one past him. "What if someone cuts this wire?" I asked. He reluctantly told me it would disable the system. I kept the questions coming though. I had always been curious about things, but never so much about this particular issue until I got involved with Bitcoin.

What's to worry about? Bitcoin is secure against everything from muggers to nuclear bombs.

"Bitcoin" may be, but making my Bitcoins so is a different matter. So it's created a healthy respect for security.

I have no worries about securing my wallets at all. They are untouchable.

I never lock my home, the keys to my F250 are on the dash, either in the driveway or on the public street, and my Bitcoin resides in Instawallet. One of my warehouses has never been locked while the other is locked only half the time. What am I missing here?

where are you warehouses located? (preferably exact addresses)  ;)

You looking for wood porn?

What's your wife or GFs cell?

[edit] either would do I don't need both  ;)

The one that's never locked is located at the corner of HWY 34 and Davis St. and the other is located west of the airport, both in Sandwich, Illinois. BTW, there's no cameras, either. Make sure you bring a big truck and plenty of man power, because 16' lumber is easy to spot, and the equipment is heavy. One person should be able to handle the small tools, though. Try not to leave any fingerprints, otherwise it may take longer for me to collect from the insurance company. Make sure to turn on the lights, otherwise somebody may call the police due to suspicious activity. This way the neighbors would just think it's one of my men. Two in the morning works just as well as three in the afternoon. I'll let you know the next time I'm leaving town for a couple days. It'll be pretty awkward to walk in on you and the only thing we'll be able to talk about is Bitcoin, beer and broads. Then again, that may be a good thing.

You don't know how badly I wanted to post my crazy aunt's phone number. To be truthful, I've been experiencing a dry spell for the past few years, hence using Rassah's coffee table as my screensaver.

The funny thing, as much as I've been thinking about it today, I left my house with the doors open today. Not just unlocked, open. It was like that for hours. When I remembered, I sped there, and closed them only to find everything in it's place. It seems people only break in when everything's locked up.

Wait till you search the term "bump key" and find countless videos of sometimes children opening locked household locks and doors with a simple generic key.

You'll realize locks only keep out good people.. 

Yeah like the old saying goes "Locks are just there to keep honest people honest." Or something like that.  If somebody really wants in there's no way to keep them out really.  I find my 12 gauge keeps the bad people honest  ;)

I'm pretty familiar with how easy it is to get into a standard pin and tumbler lock, especially with a bump key. Like BadBear says, most of the time they straighten up when you rack one in the chamber. That's assuming you're home and they haven't got to your guns before you do.

What are these guns you speak of ?

I'm Canadian..

It's what makes a person with a uniform good and a person without one bad. At least in America that's how it is. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jose_Guerena_shooting)

We use secret rooms and backup safes. Decoy guns and tools are left not so well hidden. We have animals as security. Once in awhile we target practice with semi-automatics in the back forty just so people know we are armed. The distant warehouses have been pretty much looted since they went on the market, but the local warehouses are secure. It's not so much the petty thieves that are the problem, but local bureaucrats pulling dirty tricks to legally steal property through tax assessments and eminent domain. It's getting to the point that nobody can be trusted. What we've found to be the best security is to hire the thieves and pay them for honest work. Most of them want a little self-respect and won't steal (at least your good stuff), at least until they end up in jail again. They tend to ward away other troublemakers as well.

I bought a gun safe from a guy once who was a class III dealer (machine guns, silencers, etc) so he had his safe set up like this: There were nine 1/2 inch bolts anchoring it to a cement floor, inside the safe was a device that would call him if the safe was being broken into. At that point, he would be able to listen in, and if it sounded like it was in fact a burglary, he would press a button to set off a CS gas grenade. And all of this was placed behind a false wall. That's a little too intense for me.

What is the exact address of where this safe is located? I'm free a couple days around Christmas.

 

That's terrible that they got away with that with no arrests.  

And for the Canadians, a spud gun (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Vk0X3MSH9qQ#t=58s).
https://i.imgur.com/YClt5.jpg

128 Huntington Circle, Elyria OH 44035. But it's just too bad, I'll be out of town around that time. Otherwise I'd love to have a chat. I'd say you could stop by and talk to my neighbor, he's a huge gun guy. But he'll be out of town too and is putting all of his guns and gold in my safe. We figure it's more secure that way.

Yeah, they were recently cleared of any wrongdoing. And just to make sure that the grieving family had things in perspective, the attorney for the SWAT team said, "This was all about a man who made bad choices and when you make bad choices to men who are armed, uniformed, and there for a lawful reason, bad things are going to happen."

I'd like to think he's referring to the guy who fired the first shot, not the victim.  Of course it's a lawyer so... 

Of course we would like to think that, but government gets away with murder (http://rt.com/usa/news/charges-jose-guerena-swat-409/) more often than not.

the awareness of security is not just growing because of bitcoin, but because we are starting to wake up.  a record 1.53 millioni background checks for prospective gun buyers were made just last month: http://www.news10.net/news/article/168402/2/All-I-want-for-Christmas-is--a-gun

here's a question though.  suppose i want to acquire a weapon for protection should the shit hit the fan but do not want to keep it at my home unless conditions begin to deteriorate.  i would wait to make a purchase if i knew that there would inventory and a fair price when the time comes but i realize that by the time it is apparent that a weapon really is necessary, supply wouldn't even come close to meeting the demand.

would i be able to make the purchase now and just not take delivery until a future time?  maybe even for speculation purposes i'ld buy a couple extra?

does such a service exist?

Nothing official that I know of. I'm sure a friend or someone would be able to hold on to it for you. But with something like a gun being delivered at the time you're talking about, I don't know that I would trust anyone else delivering it to me. I'm not sure of your reasons for not wanting it around, but if it's kids or someone else in the house finding it and using it, just get something like an AR-15 that can break down. The pieces could be kept in two or three different places. If a sudden natural or manmade disaster hits, you'll want it around. In addition, the purchase of a gun from a dealer will require a face to face transaction. My point is, unless you're able to really see the demand and catch it before it gets crazy, your gun may be gone. "Here's your 500 bucks back, someone 'accidentally' sold that AK of yours for 1400. Sorry." And if you want to speculate, now's the time. Gun prices go up around election time. They'll go up more if Obama's re-elected, and even more if we go to another war. AK's, AR's, and other semi-auto rifles are most affected. If you want to go the extra mile, get a Barrett. High capacity magazines (anything that holds more than ten rounds), .223 ammo, .45 ACP, and .380 will all be scarce and expensive when these things happen.

Although currently I'm not a gun owner, I had a friend, who passed recently, that own several dozen guns, many dating to the Civil War (US). His wife currently has them buried in the closet behind boxes, and other stuff, so that the grandchildren don't get into them. Her goal is to sell them but, until that time, I believe she should have them put up more securely due to those kids always being around.

sharing a place with others, so it isn't my decision.

my timing was interesting.  ammo as a store of value: http://cdn1.ammo.net/media/images/infographics/Are-Guns-Ammo-New-Gold-Full-Infographic.jpg
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/infographic-are-guns-and-ammo-new-gold

necro thread, sorry.


well, that was prescient.    though today holding the 100 bitcoins worth $150 each instead of a spending the 100 bitcoins back then on a "paper" gun (a gun owned by me but stored by the person i bought it from) has me in a better position thanks to the 30X or more increase in the exchange rate where i could now afford to get a "better spot in line" from a dealer.

but the situation is getting worse.

it only took the wall street journal four months to report on this story: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1408493_So_GE_Capital_has_pulled_financing_from_Bud_s_Gun_shop_.html     (december)  and  http://www.teaparty.org/ge-capital-cuts-off-lending-to-gun-shops-23417/

I'm glad I held on to mine too. Although my predictions about gun prices and ammo were dead on. A few months ago, you could've sold $700 rifles for $2000 or more. And ammo is still hard to come by.