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Title: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: sotelorene on March 25, 2024, 12:11:19 AM
Initially, I use to think merit is by chance ( i.e something that will just happen) or lengthy article ( i.e writing too many paragraphs and the rest of them), but I have come to realize that, it is more than that.
I have being discouraged several times because of my numerous posts and replies yet no merit then. Even now, some times I use to be discourage. However, the only way to get merit is by posting quality article ( that is what determines merit) which almost everybody is aware of now.
In summary, don't look at the quantity of post you have make so far but instead try to adjust, I mean improve in your posts, above all be consistent and patient that is the key.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: Nwada001 on March 25, 2024, 12:18:56 AM
You don't need to create a thread or write a quality article first before you can earn merit. Merit is given by different members for different purposes; all that's needed is to be yourself and be productive.
 
You can earn merit by just asking the right question, and you can also earn merit by just answering other people's questions and solving a problem.
 
Merit most often comes from places we might expect less of. What we think others might like and see as worthy of merit might have a different picture in their own view, so it's best to focus on being yourself rather than looking for ways to make a post that will earn your merit, as that might end up leading the person to nowhere. 


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: I_Anime on March 25, 2024, 12:33:26 AM
It is not fixed that making quality post would always guarantee you getting merit,  rather increases the chances of you earning merits. You don't have to write a lengthy post in order to earn your self some merit all that matters is are Impacting and contributing your posts are. Honestly there's no shortcut in earning merit best way to earn merit is for you to learn first. I can help with some tips.

* Try as possible to gather some good knowledge concerning bitcoin and how this forum works.

* When making post don't always think about merit just , focus more on how to make your post more quality and impacting (you can try checking your previous posts that have earn you merit sometimes for comparison).

* When creating a post don't always be in haste , take your time in creating your post or replys you have all the time to do that .

* Always go through others reply carefully before making yours.

Now let's me round it off with this , stop finding merit just focus on the stuff you can benefit from the forum which is gaining more knowledge concerning this Space. And find the place you're good at in this space and improve on it and you will definitely see yourself growing. Alot of users felt this way at first before being in the high rank they are now . So don't be discouraged and start working on your self on how to improve your knowledge inorder for you to improve your posting skills.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: Hatchy on March 25, 2024, 12:40:28 AM
Initially, I was to think merit is by chance ( i.e something that will just happen) or lengthy article ( i.e writing too many paragraphs and the rest of them), but I have come to realize that, it is more than that.
Merits come from quality, not quantity. Many newcomers fail to recognize this when they join the forum and rush into creating lengthy threads that may be ignored or annoying to others. As a newbie, wanting merits is understandable, but it shouldn't be your top priority. Instead, focus on understanding how the forum works. Take your time to read and study old reputable members to see how they earn merits.

I've noticed many newbies, sometimes sticking to their local boards, perhaps because English isn't their first language. However, most forum members can read and write in English to some extent. While posting on your local board is fine, consider participating in the general board to learn from a variety of members. This exposes you to different ideas, information, and opportunities to earn merits and gain recognition.

Where you post can also impact how often you earn merits. As a newbie, it's important to find a place where you can learn, discuss, ask questions, and contribute thoughtfully, whether it's by creating new threads or replying to existing ones.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: Odohu on March 25, 2024, 01:38:50 AM
The straight answer to this question is quality of the post is what makes it earn merit. Some posts can be short but very informative and relevant whereas some posts can be long and meaningless or just unnecessary wordings with no relevance to the topic of discussion.  

As an addition to my response and based on personal experience,  if you are posting to earn merits, you may likely not earn it. So the best is to be free to engage in discussion, sharing your knowledge and understanding and ensuring your comment is relevant to the topic of discussion and you will see the merits come.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: EluguHcman on March 25, 2024, 01:42:04 AM
If you have read your help and guides articles very well you would not have had those invalid thoughts of how to gain Merits as your thoughts mislead you initially.

But I can tell you Op, just keep up with your best of contributions which literally are constrictive with good qualities and then it would attract merit to you most especially at your unaware because no one in the forum ever knows about a particular post to give them Merit from their posts here in the forum.

I will also urge you not to feel depressed if this merits are not coming. That would specially motivate you to get on the right track of advancing to your maximum contributions.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: tranthidung on March 25, 2024, 01:50:03 AM
Initially, I was to think merit is by chance ( i.e something that will just happen) or lengthy article ( i.e writing too many paragraphs and the rest of them), but I have come to realize that, it is more than that.
  • Welcome message (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5036308.0) has the answer for you, so please read it.

If you make ten thousand posts in a week, your activity will be capped and you will still be a Newbie. If you make ten thousand useless posts over any period of time, you will gain zero merit and you will still be a Newbie. You can rank up only by making good posts consistently. It's quality over quantity.

When trying to write quality posts, a lot of people act as though they're writing a book report for school: putting facts that we already know into their own words. Nobody wants to read that, and you will not get merit for it. Moreover, the length of your post and the quality of your English are only minor factors. In trying to write a quality post worthy of merit, you should offer new ideas, personal experiences, or perspectives that other forum users will actually find new and interesting.

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I have being discouraged several times because of my numerous posts and replies yet no merit then. Even now, some times I use to be discourage.
You can write hundreds or thousands of post but get no single merit if all your posts are shit posts and not helpful, not interesting to any forum member.

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However, the only way to get merit is by posting quality article ( that is what determines merit) which almost everybody is aware of now.
You don't need to write article in Bitcointalk. Helpful posts are enough to help you receive merits when readers (forum members, not guests) like your posts, see your posts helpful and appreciate your posts with their sendable merit.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: Plaguedeath on March 25, 2024, 03:17:50 AM
I disagree, there's no criteria or requirement in order to earn merit, just like my post below, I only post two words + image and I got 5 merits so far.

Lengthy article only make your post high unlikely get deleted, but it's not related to merit.

Merit is just like a gift, don't expect anyone e.g. friends, girlfriend, parents etc will give you something on your birthday.



Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: tech30338 on March 25, 2024, 03:31:40 AM
I disagree, there's no criteria or requirement in order to earn merit, just like my post below, I only post two words + image and I got 5 merits so far.

Lengthy article only make your post high unlikely get deleted, but it's not related to merit.

Merit is just like a gift, don't expect anyone e.g. friends, girlfriend, parents etc will give you something on your birthday.

Maybe its the quote that helps given you the merit, besides loyceV will not just give merit if he has not seen something about your post, even an image can say it all, although, members have different ways of understanding a post, if they appreciate it, they will give merits, if not some will appreciate, that's my take.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: Luzin on March 25, 2024, 05:17:35 AM
It's not a matter of length or coincidence. Merit is controlled by each user. They have different criteria for giving. But if I look at the habits of the giver and I give then posts that are useful to other users will be much appreciated. It doesn't need to be long and it's not a coincidence. So if you want to get appreciation then try to be useful to other users with posts containing technical, fundamental, theoretical education along with real evidence and practice.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: Porfirii on March 25, 2024, 06:02:24 AM
I disagree, there's no criteria or requirement in order to earn merit, just like my post below, I only post two words + image and I got 5 merits so far.

Lengthy article only make your post high unlikely get deleted, but it's not related to merit.

Merit is just like a gift, don't expect anyone e.g. friends, girlfriend, parents etc will give you something on your birthday.


I agree: unless you wrote really bad or off-topic, if you participate in threads you find interesting, in the end you'll earn merits when you less expect it. No need to be Shakespeare here.

Members can also get a boost by participating in the various contests that are held in the forum from time to time (pie contest, pizza contest, pumpkin carving contest...), where the effort and love for Bitcoin are usually rewarded.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: Doan9269 on March 25, 2024, 08:06:04 AM
Merit is not by chance or how lengthy your article is, to my best of knowledge, the more the article content of what you're posting is the more its getting complicated for others to read and understand the major idea in your post, so merit is giving by the level of the quality of your post, which is felt by the reader and he make the judgement that your post is deserving to receive merit provided that he has some smerits to give out, be it a merit source or other members of the forum.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: AmaGold70 on March 25, 2024, 08:20:36 AM

In summary, don't look at the quantity of post you have make so far but instead try to adjust, I mean improve in your posts, above all be consistent and patient that is the key.
Hey Op, IMO I don't think being consistent and patient alone can earn you merits, bitcoinTalk has it's name implies, you should be able to know about it and how it works, I use a bot that notifies me of any new post in the boards am tracking and funny enough that most of the new posts are questions about Bitcoin, wallet etc which I don't know and am limited to join the conversations.

Would you still encourage me to be consistent?
If I do, I will end up being a shit poster. I think the real deal is to learn about Bitcoin, how it works, study the market, know about the bull run, halving, HODL etc. You can only earn merits if you know what you are doing before you add consistent and patient to it.

Meanwhile, I got to know that HODL is a misspelling of HOLD, correct or not?


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: Alphakilo on March 25, 2024, 08:47:04 AM
In summary, don't look at the quantity of post you have make so far but instead try to adjust, I mean improve in your posts, above all be consistent and patient that is the key.
Newbies writing creating topics to advice other users about the forum is ridiculous. As a newbie, you should first learn about the forum, spend some time studying the profiles, posting patterns of reputable members. Outside the forum learn more about bitcoin and improve your knowledge there. Merits will come at the time they will come. The more knowledge you have the better your contribution to important discussion going on here, asking useful questions but do not advice other users.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on March 25, 2024, 09:46:27 AM
Another trivial topic from a newbie. I always wonder, OP, at what time do newbies have the epiphany of merit to create topics like this? Don't you read what other newbies write about this? Practically repeating what was said many times. But I always assumed that someone who has gone through this experience and can set their own example should talk about it.
OP, if you don't want to look stupid, then after this thread, you should blow up the forum with the amount of merit that will rain down on you. After all, you have now learned the truth. Otherwise, all your words are just theory, but where is the practice?


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: LoyceV on March 25, 2024, 09:51:18 AM
I only post two words + image and I got 5 merits so far.
Amateur (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5311187.msg56150344#msg56150344) :P


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: Majestic-milf on March 25, 2024, 10:44:54 AM
 I don't know if it's just me or someone else has noticed this; it's as if there's no more interesting or informative thread to create do users just go ahead and recycle posts that have been made only difference is they use another title? This stuff you're talking about Op, I wonder to what end because if you've been patient enough to do your research you would have found that such threads have been made and adequate replies have been given.
 Honestly the more we talk about this is like we are beating a dead horse and it becomes stale. Why not read more so you can contribute meaningfully to posts instead of rehashing something that's been treated? Or are you hoping to get merits from this? Instead of this, try doing something creative that hasn't been thought of, and you'd get what you are looking for.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: Odusko on March 25, 2024, 11:27:48 AM
Initially, I was to think merit is by chance ( i.e something that will just happen) or lengthy article ( i.e writing too many paragraphs and the rest of them), but I have come to realize that, it is more than that.
I have being discouraged several times because of my numerous posts and replies yet no merit then. Even now, some times I use to be discourage. However, the only way to get merit is by posting quality article ( that is what determines merit) which almost everybody is aware of now.
In summary, don't look at the quantity of post you have make so far but instead try to adjust, I mean improve in your posts, above all be consistent and patient that is the key.
You already accumulated a total of 6 merits for yourself and that should be a good enough number for you to be able to build a personal understanding around the subject of merits and how members are being rewarded, just as you are confused about the way merits distribution works same way every other members of the forum.
Merits awarding is based on the smerits holders feeling and how they view your posts, you can make a line line reply, you may get merited for it, and also make a tons of write but never get rewarded, so their is no known mechanism to how merits are awarded since it based on individuals.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: cxtreenal on March 25, 2024, 11:53:36 AM
You need to invest sufficient time to succeed in the forum. You should try to read and understand more and more threads. Most importantly you continue to follow the seniors. You have to remember what they are focusing more on and what direction they are giving to the juniors. If you are talented, everyone will get your smell.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: Issa56 on March 25, 2024, 12:12:15 PM
Initially, I was to think merit is by chance ( i.e something that will just happen) or lengthy article ( i.e writing too many paragraphs and the rest of them), but I have come to realize that, it is more than that.
Merit is not earned by writing long posts, you might be writing long posts and you won’t be receiving merit, and someone who’s writing short posts will be receiving merit, so don’t end up writing long and useless posts, you won’t receive merit for that. What makes you deserve merit is the amount of information your post contains and how quality it is. Some short posts might carry lots of informations, some people are always making things short when expressing themselves, but I am not saying long posts don’t receive merit also. If anyone finds the post useful, then you are going to be merited. All I will say is that, if you are writing long or short posts, make sure your post is educative.

I have being discouraged several times because of my numerous posts and replies yet no merit then.
Why so desperate to get merit? If you are really desperate to get merit, then you might not even get merit. The best thing is to just post freely and make sure you are making quality contributions to the forum. If you are posting here just because you need merit, then you might end up not getting it, but if you post freely, you will be surprised with the way merits will be flowing into your account. Because you posted and you didn’t receive merit doesn’t mean your posts are useless, just that maybe people that the posts might be useful to don’t have any merit to give you.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: Mia Chloe on March 25, 2024, 01:14:07 PM
I don't know if it's just me but I think posts concerning merits have been raised frequently this week. Anyways back to the question. Merits are not rewarded based on  lengthy threads. If not , obviously if that was the case every single lengthy thread here on this forum would have a ton of merits. It is very possible to have a very lengthy garbage post however you could have a post of just 2 paragraphs carrying valid information. In fact I have discovered that most forum members prefer nicely summarized posts carrying pure info compared to a lengthy thread on same topic.

Merits depend on quality not length of the  post. Infact the more quality your post carries the more people would always want to venture reading it and thus merit it. Like I always say merits are magnets to quality posts the higher the impact of the thread the higher the chances of more merit.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: Awaklara on March 25, 2024, 01:36:17 PM
Initially, I was to think merit is by chance ( i.e something that will just happen) or lengthy article ( i.e writing too many paragraphs and the rest of them), but I have come to realize that, it is more than that.
I have being discouraged several times because of my numerous posts and replies yet no merit then. Even now, some times I use to be discourage. However, the only way to get merit is by posting quality article ( that is what determines merit) which almost everybody is aware of now.
In summary, don't look at the quantity of post you have make so far but instead try to adjust, I mean improve in your posts, above all be consistent and patient that is the key.
The amount will not affect whether they will get Merit or not. The length of sentences or paragraphs will also not be considered. everything is more about the message or content of the information you provide.
just do what you like in the forum, read more information, and don't expect too much to get Merit. if you force it, maybe you will never get it. keep your spirits up and keep trying your best on the forum. The development you get from the forum depends on how much interest and desire you have here.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: sandos on March 25, 2024, 01:41:07 PM
I think the merit system is similar to people who create free things on the internet, aiming to provide more valuable content to the community. In the end, people support them (like buying them a coffee), and merit is a good way to counter spam that only aims for quantity (some people just copy from YouTube, Reddit, and spam it hard). It makes people leave forums when they don't see anything of value, just copied things from the internet.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: Taskford on March 25, 2024, 01:45:47 PM
Initially, I was to think merit is by chance ( i.e something that will just happen) or lengthy article ( i.e writing too many paragraphs and the rest of them), but I have come to realize that, it is more than that.
I have being discouraged several times because of my numerous posts and replies yet no merit then. Even now, some times I use to be discourage. However, the only way to get merit is by posting quality article ( that is what determines merit) which almost everybody is aware of now.
In summary, don't look at the quantity of post you have make so far but instead try to adjust, I mean improve in your posts, above all be consistent and patient that is the key.

Nope you don't need any lengthy post to get merit since you just need to be on point regarding on what you are posting according to the topic discussed. Also just don't think about merit since as you said it will disappoint you. Maybe you need to focus for providing good post here which can help other people to understand some things that new to them or you became so helpful on the community.

If you think you have unmerited good post then go on this thread  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5412657.0  and compile your post made then place it there. Then wait if fillippone the thread creator will find your post worth it to get some merits.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: Plaguedeath on March 25, 2024, 02:13:43 PM
I only post two words + image and I got 5 merits so far.
Amateur (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5311187.msg56150344#msg56150344) :P
Sigh, I need to buy 7 merits.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: Faisal2202 on March 25, 2024, 02:29:20 PM
Initially, I was to think merit is by chance ( i.e something that will just happen) or lengthy article ( i.e writing too many paragraphs and the rest of them), but I have come to realize that, it is more than that.
I have being discouraged several times because of my numerous posts and replies yet no merit then. Even now, some times I use to be discourage. However, the only way to get merit is by posting quality article ( that is what determines merit) which almost everybody is aware of now.
In summary, don't look at the quantity of post you have make so far but instead try to adjust, I mean improve in your posts, above all be consistent and patient that is the key.
They can be get by both ways, by chance and by writing useful articles or creating topics. Articles don't have to be lengthy as long as they are useful and contributing to this forum. And you are right about the fact that many of the articles that a newbie want to post are already posted by someone else and they have got some merits too, but you don't getting any, in that situation, don't try to copy others, learn things and then try to explaing the article or findings in your own ways. Be creative.

I got merits by chance and on creating topics too, I earned most of the merits on my replies, if I am not wrong, you want to get merit, try to remain active in your local board because only local board will help you grow rank wise, as getting merits from others (except sources and ogz) is so rare. So don't discourage yourself and keep growing.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: reagansimms on March 25, 2024, 02:43:20 PM
There is no such thing as coincidence, your efforts will determine how much merit you will get. Writing long articles has no guarantee of getting merit because each member will evaluate a post objectively. Believe it or not, merit often comes in posts that you never expected to get merit such as posts that answer other members' questions or short posts that correct mistakes made by other members.

If you post only hoping for merit, you will be disappointed and feel like people here are unfair because no one appreciates your post. First learn how the merit system works, you will get an idea of how to get merits that can help you achieve a higher rank.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: m2017 on March 25, 2024, 02:48:28 PM
"Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?"

Merit is neither one nor the other. You don't get merit by chance. If your post gets merit, it means something about the post was liked by other people. It could be anything. Starting from jokes, ending with constructive and useful information. Merits are given not because of the number of characters in the text. Long articles personally turn me off and I believe that the post should be extremely concise.

Merit is (make) efforts (be active).


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: Baban twince on March 25, 2024, 03:37:39 PM
You can drop some reasonable posts in the forum and still receive no merit at all, thus creating a good post does not guarantee any.Thus, as a member of the forum, you can acquire merit by simply putting in the necessary work and commitment; merit will manifest itself in a variety of ways.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: knowngunman on March 25, 2024, 04:20:11 PM
Lol  ;D here you go https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5311187.msg56150344#msg56150344

People have a lot to do online and you can not expect them to read lengthy and meaningless posts. Make your post short and informative as possible. Just like in school's exam where some students will write on extra paper and end up scoring below those who write half a page. A typical definition of not how far but how best.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: Asuspawer09 on March 25, 2024, 05:07:22 PM
Initially, I was to think merit is by chance ( i.e something that will just happen) or lengthy article ( i.e writing too many paragraphs and the rest of them), but I have come to realize that, it is more than that.
I have being discouraged several times because of my numerous posts and replies yet no merit then. Even now, some times I use to be discourage. However, the only way to get merit is by posting quality article ( that is what determines merit) which almost everybody is aware of now.
In summary, don't look at the quantity of post you have make so far but instead try to adjust, I mean improve in your posts, above all be consistent and patient that is the key.

I mean that is usually the case since posting your own topic is going to get a lot more attention than just replies because on one thread, there are tons of replies so it's going to be difficult to notice your post on that considering there are as well even more quality post than your post there, I mean that just normal if your going to ask me, In my experience doing your own thread it quality articles will tend to have higher chance to gain merits than just doing replies. But doesnt really mean that replies are going to be useful I mean it's the easiest way to do it than creating a full-length topic.

In the end, these are all not going to matter the important thing is your learning and at the same time posting quality posts here in the forum, if you are on your journey in the cryptocurrency space just continue with it, and make the forum useful, help other members and ask them for help as well, it's going to be a win-win situation to everyone here in the forum. If you just continue to do that there is no doubt that merits is just gonna come naturally you are going to get it.

I gonna need to agree with you the secret here is consistency and patience, but it's going to be difficult to be consistent unless you are doing it yourself, you're experiencing it, etc. so I always suggest that newbies start right away on there crypto journey.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: LogitechMouse on March 25, 2024, 05:36:57 PM
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Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Chance? Like an RNG in a MMORPG game isn't it? You think merit is like you getting the most expensive item in a game, but this time, it's in the form or merits.
Lengthy article? Hmmmm, I might posted some lengthy posts, but not a lengthy article.

It's just me being me. I guess this is the reason why I got some merits though it took me a long time to rank up to Legendary since I'm just an average poster here, and I'm not like the expert ones who are hoarding merits. :P Kidding aside, I guess being "consistent" is one of the ways for somebody to earn merit, but I've seen users here who are consistently posting here, but they are just spamming. Patience? I don't think so. Just be yourself. Share what you know about a particular topic, and just be constructive with it. That's the key. :D

Don't get discouraged by your Jr. Member rank OP. Learn more, and share it here. For sure, you will get merits along the way. The more knowledge you know, the more constructive your posts are, and the more constructive your posts, the higher the chance that the high rank members and merit sources will give you merits. :) Good Luck OP.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: Hyphen(-) on March 25, 2024, 07:31:00 PM
In summary, don't look at the quantity of post you have make so far but instead try to adjust, I mean improve in your posts, above all be consistent and patient that is the key.
Doing what is the right thing will save your time and will earn you merits, instead of creating this thread, you should have just work on your ways of improving your post pattern to increase their quality.
Writing lengthy words and paragraphs cannot earn you merits if the content did not have any quality contribution to the forum or of the content did not teach anything related to Bitcoin, cryptocurrency, or any technical idea and guides that will help us secure our Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: GeorgeJohn on March 25, 2024, 09:17:50 PM
Initially, I was to think merit is by chance ( i.e something that will just happen) or lengthy article ( i.e writing too many paragraphs and the rest of them), but I have come to realize that, it is more than that.
I have being discouraged several times because of my numerous posts and replies yet no merit then. Even now, some times I use to be discourage. However, the only way to get merit is by posting quality article ( that is what determines merit) which almost everybody is aware of now.
In summary, don't look at the quantity of post you have make so far but instead try to adjust, I mean improve in your posts, above all be consistent and patient that is the key.
Emphasizing on merit, it's obvious that what fetch merit is not base how elongate your is posting or how ambiguous is your posting, meriters, especially merit sources who does not share merit base on personal relationships between them and original poster, give out merit base on the content of the post and also your positive response on a post, it does not necessarily means that you will post to cover like twenty paragraphs before your post because a quality...a two stanza of post can give you twenty to ten merit depending how meaningful is your post..I could remember when I registered in the forum newly once you make a good point in any thread people will merit you, but right now you discover something that is unknown to the forum how highest merit you can earn is few....in summary you have to be good researcher and also be innovative in your posts before you can earn merit, just work harder that's my advice for you as a beginner.

Initially, I was to think merit is by chance ( i.e something that will just happen) or lengthy article ( i.e writing too many paragraphs and the rest of them), but I have come to realize that, it is more than that.
Merits come from quality, not quantity. Many newcomers fail to recognize this when they join the forum and rush into creating lengthy threads that may be ignored or annoying to others. As a newbie, wanting merits is understandable, but it shouldn't be your top priority. Instead, focus on understanding how the forum works. Take your time to read and study old reputable members to see how they earn merits.

actually you are right indecency that every quality poster earn more merit than average poster, but it depends on your merit fans, what gives rise to merit fan is people who like your methods of writing, base on your composition and use of English spoken languages that will make people to understand your area concentration or area of your writing.


The straight answer to this question is quality of the post is what makes it earn merit. Some posts can be short but very informative and relevant whereas some posts can long and meaningless or just unnecessary wordings with no relevance to the topic of discussion. 

As an addition to my response and based on personal experience,  if you are posting to earn merits, you may likely not earn it. So the best is to be free to engage in discussion, sharing your knowledge and understanding and ensuring your comment is relevant to the topic of discussion and you will see the merits come.
It's better for someone to write what is comprehensive than writing ambiguous post that is not comprehensive, that is while some overlooked some of the contents that Carrie's much characters of words in this forum,  it's better and well understanding that quality writing or quality article is base on how formative is the post, if someone make a research and post definitely the person will earn a  merit,  some of us does not advocate time and make research before posting, that's one of our major problems.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: albon on March 25, 2024, 09:49:00 PM
Constructive, useful, high-quality contributions that benefit others are what receive Merits, whether short or long. Most importantly, your article or post is understandable, clear, simplified, and free of spelling errors that hinder understanding. In addition, your article should not be duplicated. Ideally, it should be exclusive; of course, it must not be stolen from other sites or other members and be compliant with the forum rules and the rules of each section.

Merits will undoubtedly come if you try to be a useful contributing member, which is its main purpose. As you mentioned, the number of posts and topics does not matter. It may be that what you previously posted did not present anything new and may not have been liked by other members. Focus on developing your expertise, acquiring knowledge, and staying updated with everything new in this field so that you can raise your rank here.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: Abu-Naim on March 25, 2024, 09:51:20 PM
You need to invest sufficient time to succeed in the forum. You should try to read and understand more and more threads. Most importantly you continue to follow the seniors. You have to remember what they are focusing more on and what direction they are giving to the juniors. If you are talented, everyone will get your smell.
Time and devotion are required to excel in any activity, including this forum. This forum also requires your entire attention so that you can quickly learn what you want to study, and paying close attention to quality discussions will provide you with further knowledge. You do not need to be in a hurry to get merit; if you have studied and executed everything you have learned in the proper manner, such as assisting others with their questions and sharing vital information that will benefit others, you will earn merit.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: Smartvirus on March 25, 2024, 09:52:49 PM
Initially, I was to think merit is by chance ( i.e something that will just happen) or lengthy article ( i.e writing too many paragraphs and the rest of them), but I have come to realize that, it is more than that.
I have being discouraged several times because of my numerous posts and replies yet no merit then. Even now, some times I use to be discourage. However, the only way to get merit is by posting quality article ( that is what determines merit) which almost everybody is aware of now.
In summary, don't look at the quantity of post you have make so far but instead try to adjust, I mean improve in your posts, above all be consistent and patient that is the key.
Okay, haven’t come to this conclusion,

Do you call this a quality post?



I don’t know what you did intend to archive with this thread but, it’s so generic and have been seen one two many times. Come on, you could actually develop a thread more than you’ve done here. Perhaps merit isn’t given by the length of a post, there have been one liner post that made so much sense to be given the highest number of merits that could be given at any given one time in a month.  That doesn’t neglect the fact that, at times,

Your creativity needs to be seen in your write up too,
The length you go to state facts,
The time you put into your thread creation,
Your interest in what is been projected in your thread with respect to it’s relevance,
Your articulation and how you present your arguments and postulates,
And more of those…

It takes time for sure but, you get to learn these and more from users here, build on them and improve them. You wouldn’t struggle so much to come to certain realization while walking your Bitcoin journey.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: QueenSk on March 25, 2024, 10:46:33 PM
Why are we so fixated on earning Merits? The question is, even if we as newbies manage to earn merits in any way, what next? If our aim for joining this forum is to earn money from here then we are wrong in the first place because as far as I know, earning opportunities are simply bonuses and we shouldn't consider them as side jobs or part-time jobs and work on our accounts and everything so that we can start earning money as quickly as possible.

Our focus should be to learn and grow after joining this forum and we should be doing that as the first thing I'm pretty sure that if we deserve it, we will eventually earn Merits and rank up but if we don't, we will always stay newbies because, in essence, we would still be newbies because a person without any knowledge or experience is called a newbie.

Since the day I joined this forum, I have been trying my best to surf all the sections and read and learn as much as possible because I know that will be helpful for me in the future both in this forum and in the industry. I'm not chasing Merits because I don't care much about that and you shouldn't too.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: Finestream on March 25, 2024, 10:53:33 PM
You don't need to create a thread or write a quality article first before you can earn merit. Merit is given by different members for different purposes; all that's needed is to be yourself and be productive.
 
You can earn merit by just asking the right question, and you can also earn merit by just answering other people's questions and solving a problem.
 
Merit most often comes from places we might expect less of. What we think others might like and see as worthy of merit might have a different picture in their own view, so it's best to focus on being yourself rather than looking for ways to make a post that will earn your merit, as that might end up leading the person to nowhere.
Just do what is right in the forum and you’ll earn your merits more than you expected. Don’t be too hard like creating a thread even if you’re not highly knowledgeable about just to impress everyone, just focus on the forum and always be genuine with your answers, eventually people will notice it and acknowledge your efforts on sharing your own insights. And don’t chase merits, instead never stop in learning the process in the forum until you’ll find yourself becoming a quality poster in the forum.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: hatshepsut93 on March 25, 2024, 11:46:56 PM
Luck could indeed be a factor, as a person who would merit your post might just not read it or be out of merit, etc. But it affects everyone equally and you can't do anything about it, so you can just not worry about it. Length is also a part of quality. Posts that are just one short sentance rarely get merit because they are rarely qualify as "quality" - they don't provide unique or rare insight. But long posts are not automatically quality posts - there are many-many long garbage posts that are hard to read and are full of useless information.

But quality is not the only factor that determines merit gains. It's easier to get merit by posting what people would like to hear than by posting something that upsets them.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: dzungmobile on March 26, 2024, 10:52:32 AM
Luck could indeed be a factor, as a person who would merit your post might just not read it or be out of merit, etc. But it affects everyone equally and you can't do anything about it, so you can just not worry about it.
Luckiness and randomness are some of factors to receive merit. Random means you need other forum members to read your 'assumed' quality posts, and luckiness is at the time of reading your quality posts, they have available sendable merit to send it to your account.

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Length is also a part of quality. Posts that are just one short sentance rarely get merit because they are rarely qualify as "quality" - they don't provide unique or rare insight. But long posts are not automatically quality posts - there are many-many long garbage posts that are hard to read and are full of useless information.
Length can decide a post quality like a post with one or two words, hardly contains any helpful content.

Too long posts don't always equal to quality posts. Idea needs to be expressed and converted to words in writing as shortest as possible to avoid wasting reading time of readers and to avoid misleading them to your main points.

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But quality is not the only factor that determines merit gains. It's easier to get merit by posting what people would like to hear than by posting something that upsets them.
Other factors than quality like fun, emotion, support are all against use cases of sendable merit and purpose of merit system but no way to control the system and merit distribution at 100% correct rate. We have to accept this fact.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: Miles2006 on March 26, 2024, 12:53:35 PM
Quality over quantity as always is better but from my view I have seen some lengthy post receive merit, everything depends on your knowledge and what you pass out from your post, from my opinion read more and learn before you can be able to post quality. Excepting merit from a lengthy post with zero quality makes no sense and it looks like a wasted effort from my view. I have seen several topics with comment like the topic got no merit but members who commented received merit, so let's say those topics had no value, understanding how merit works is complicated and I think you should focus  more on something else.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: Alone055 on March 26, 2024, 01:11:56 PM
Quality over quantity as always is better but from my view I have seen some lengthy post receive merit,

It's because they are of good quality and the details and information shared in them are useful and worthy. You can't expect a long post with a bunch of gibberish written in it to receive merits because it's all about quality and constructiveness.

understanding how merit works is complicated and I think you should focus  more on something else.

What's so complicated about it?  ::) It's very simple, a user who is informative and posts only when they know they can contribute something to the topic tends to get merits all the time, and those who try very hard for it, create lengthy but useless posts and are barely interested in learning how things work will not get any or enough to grow in the forum.  :)


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: Dzwaafu11 on March 26, 2024, 01:33:34 PM
Initially, I was to think merit is by chance ( i.e something that will just happen) or lengthy article ( i.e writing too many paragraphs and the rest of them), but I have come to realize that, it is more than that.

We have many ways of earning merits on the forum, not only by writing lengthy articles or replies. You can even do both of these, but you won't earn merit because you may even write something with many paragraphs and still you won't earn any merit because it may be off point. However, some things are just full of English grammar without any merit because what that user writes is off point. So, the only way to earn merit on the forum is just by writing meaningful content for the forum members, and people will merit you.

Sometimes you can also earn merit by asking a very good question, so just understand that earning merit is not done by writing a long post. Even two lines of your post can give you merit. The main thing is that what you are writing should be on point. You should know what you are writing. That is the main thing, and that is the only way to earn merit.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: Taskford on March 26, 2024, 01:50:09 PM
You don't need to create a thread or write a quality article first before you can earn merit. Merit is given by different members for different purposes; all that's needed is to be yourself and be productive.
 
You can earn merit by just asking the right question, and you can also earn merit by just answering other people's questions and solving a problem.
 
Merit most often comes from places we might expect less of. What we think others might like and see as worthy of merit might have a different picture in their own view, so it's best to focus on being yourself rather than looking for ways to make a post that will earn your merit, as that might end up leading the person to nowhere.
Just do what is right in the forum and you’ll earn your merits more than you expected. Don’t be too hard like creating a thread even if you’re not highly knowledgeable about just to impress everyone, just focus on the forum and always be genuine with your answers, eventually people will notice it and acknowledge your efforts on sharing your own insights. And don’t chase merits, instead never stop in learning the process in the forum until you’ll find yourself becoming a quality poster in the forum.

Sometimes they fall into wrong thinking that if they create a thread automatically they receive a merit that's why we can see some of the newbies push their self to post something like tutorial thread but they don't understand what they are posting and it doesn't change or contribute anything in this forum.

They should always think that quality of the post is more better rather than the length since to many people will not read those long post and sometimes they want a direct to the point opinion then once those generous people like it people merit those post if they find it merit worthy.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: Peanutswar on March 26, 2024, 03:10:25 PM
It's about the content, you dont need to have a large amount of text that doesn't make sense with the content or does not really beneficial information, many users gets merit because of the content they have, the substantial how they contribute the information, help with the other members with the recent or even in the future members will face the same concern. Youve joined last year and you don't need to get bothered in the merit if you know how much you help and contribute to the community. Keep enjoying the learnings.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: kentrolla on March 26, 2024, 07:59:42 PM
It's about the content, you dont need to have a large amount of text that doesn't make sense with the content or does not really beneficial information, many users gets merit because of the content they have, the substantial how they contribute the information, help with the other members with the recent or even in the future members will face the same concern. Youve joined last year and you don't need to get bothered in the merit if you know how much you help and contribute to the community. Keep enjoying the learnings.

That's right even while sending merits I don't consider the length of the post rather I consider how helpful the information has been and it's a misconception most of the people carry that the post should be lengthy inorder to get merits but that's a false assumption because the content is more important than number of characters. It's simple you contribute towards community by sharing knowledge be it one liner or one paragraph if it's helpful then your chances of receiving merits are higher and vice versa.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: nakamura12 on March 26, 2024, 08:27:12 PM
You can earn merit when you join discussions where your reply is constructive, high or good quality post that clearly deserves a merit. It's not always making articles that lets you earn merits. Anyway, a forum member either a merit source or not have his/her own criteria on how he/she will reward merits to other forum members. Some people are merited because of their post that is funny or hilarious. Always remember it's not all about article or something like that where you have to post in order to receive merits.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: Hamza2424 on March 26, 2024, 10:27:44 PM
Initially, I was to think merit is by chance ( i.e something that will just happen) or lengthy article ( i.e writing too many paragraphs and the rest of them), but I have come to realize that, it is more than that.
I have being discouraged several times because of my numerous posts and replies yet no merit then. Even now, some times I use to be discourage. However, the only way to get merit is by posting quality article ( that is what determines merit) which almost everybody is aware of now.
In summary, don't look at the quantity of post you have make so far but instead try to adjust, I mean improve in your posts, above all be consistent and patient that is the key.

Yes Obviously the quantity of the post does not matter rather the quality of the post matters a lot let's say you have written 700 words of a lengthy words post but it does not contain any informative material, Helpful material, or Interactive material so it will be counted as the shit post. Just focus on your post quality and improve it as possible if the senior members find/feel your post interactive/helpful/informative they will obviously appreciate your posts. All that is possible only when you will start to contribute in the Discussion on the Forum keep in mind my one advice here for you is that reply the post with informative material in such a way nobody has contributed like you in the same thread before you are replying.

Then the chances of Getting appreciated by the member will increase for you. On the same side, don't be demotivated so early as I have seen so many people who have made a lot of posts but their merits are too much less the thing is they are still participating in the forum and they are still motivated. Just keep the focus on Quality, not Quantity.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: Luzin on March 27, 2024, 01:48:18 AM
Quote from: Plaguedeath link=topic=5490184.msg63855891#msg63855891

Sigh, I need to buy 7 merits.


After I read I was inspired with pictures and 5 merits. LOL.
Maybe you'll feel like that picture, if you get the Merit. When you struggle and get results, it will make you feel satisfied. Buying is not the best solution.



Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: Lida93 on March 27, 2024, 04:36:58 AM
However, the only way to get merit is by posting quality article ( that is what determines merit) which almost everybody is aware of now.
Now the question is, what is quality article? 
A quality article is one which solved a problem. Proffers or provides a guideline of information(s) that meets a needs, or informations that prevent one from falling into a risk. In generally, a quality post is that post that builds or adds to knowledge of your audience.

Consequently, IMO, not all posts that didn't get merited could be said to be lacking of quality but it could be that the information conveyed  might have arrived late to users and it's no more a news or an information of interest based on its timing. So therefore, that a post doesn't receive merit doesn't interpret it as a none quality post as not all unmerited post are posts of poor quality.

However, what I've noticed overtime in the forum is that more often than not, post meriting has been highly subjective to user's discretion.



Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: Nangiconference on March 27, 2024, 05:42:38 AM
You can earn merit form just one sentence, you don't have to write at length to earn merit. It has been stated from the beginning that quality not quantity.
You will get merit for your contribution to the ecosystem. When you ask the necessary question, or provide adequate answer to a problem, or raise a good suggestion or educate people on a vital issue. you might get merit although it is not automatic to get merit for a nice post. But most time if it is a topic make the caption or title eye-catching, interesting and captivating so that your thread can be viewed. Your might be making a good point but your title is not enticing for members to go through your post.
A good post should have a good title.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: HajiBagi on March 27, 2024, 11:07:28 AM
Initially, I use to think merit is by chance ( i.e something that will just happen) or lengthy article ( i.e writing too many paragraphs and the rest of them), but I have come to realize that, it is more than that.
I have being discouraged several times because of my numerous posts and replies yet no merit then. Even now, some times I use to be discourage. However, the only way to get merit is by posting quality article ( that is what determines merit) which almost everybody is aware of now.
In summary, don't look at the quantity of post you have make so far but instead try to adjust, I mean improve in your posts, above all be consistent and patient that is the key.

You're correct that making quality replies and posts does earn you merit, but you also need to understand that asking questions that are crucial to ask can also earn you merit. Merit is similar to an award given for well-done work, but in a forum, you shouldn't always expect everything you do or the thread you start to earn merit. If you do, you'll get discouraged, and that's what gets newbies in the forum.

Additionally, when creating a thread in the forum, consider not only what will benefit current members of the forum as well as those who will join in the future. Sometimes, merit will find you; other times, you will need to let merit find you. The more threads you create that, if read, readers will find helpful, the more merit will find you. My best advice to you is to never give up.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: ameerhamza24 on March 28, 2024, 05:10:49 PM
Initially, I use to think merit is by chance ( i.e something that will just happen) or lengthy article ( i.e writing too many paragraphs and the rest of them), but I have come to realize that, it is more than that.
I have being discouraged several times because of my numerous posts and replies yet no merit then. Even now, some times I use to be discourage. However, the only way to get merit is by posting quality article ( that is what determines merit) which almost everybody is aware of now.
In summary, don't look at the quantity of post you have make so far but instead try to adjust, I mean improve in your posts, above all be consistent and patient that is the key.


true. It is more than that. It doesn't have to be lengthy. It only has to be a quality post, helpful post, informative to other, If someone finds it helpful or other things that i mentioned. it is for sure that they will drop a merit for you. untill you don't get merit keep making good quality posts.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: qwertyup23 on March 28, 2024, 05:25:29 PM
Initially, I use to think merit is by chance ( i.e something that will just happen) or lengthy article ( i.e writing too many paragraphs and the rest of them), but I have come to realize that, it is more than that.
I have being discouraged several times because of my numerous posts and replies yet no merit then. Even now, some times I use to be discourage. However, the only way to get merit is by posting quality article ( that is what determines merit) which almost everybody is aware of now.
In summary, don't look at the quantity of post you have make so far but instead try to adjust, I mean improve in your posts, above all be consistent and patient that is the key.

Oh no- that is often the misconception that most people equate to.

The volume of the text is not in proportion to its quality. This means that it the more words or paragraphs that you create on your post, the better the quality is. Sometimes, less is always more especially if you construct your paragraphs into straightforward and concise answers without any irrelevant information.

Additionally, there are lots of people who have made several posts that only contain 2-3 sentences but they were able to garner merits from it. At the end of the day, it is all about the quality of your replies and the construction of it on how it tells the message.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: EL MOHA on March 28, 2024, 05:47:28 PM

Oh no- that is often the misconception that most people equate to.

The volume of the text is not in proportion to its quality. This means that it the more words or paragraphs that you create on your post, the better the quality is. Sometimes, less is always more especially if you construct your paragraphs into straightforward and concise answers without any irrelevant information.

Additionally, there are lots of people who have made several posts that only contain 2-3 sentences but they were able to garner merits from it. At the end of the day, it is all about the quality of your replies and the construction of it on how it tells the message.

The misconception actually comes from what the OP has seen largely on the forum and I will tell the OP that most of the posts or threads he sees that they are actually Long post which I will say are mostly due to the signature requirements, most campaigns have quota of words or length that a post will meet before it is counted towards there paid post so these signature participants actually buttress their post to meet this criteria and mostly many People mistake it as to why they gain merit. But just as everyone said it bows down to the quality


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: Cookdata on March 28, 2024, 07:33:36 PM
The only time writing a lengthy paragraphs is if you are writing a guide or tutorial that is really long. If you wrote episode with plenty of words just to convince anyone that you are good at writing script, people might not even reply your thread not talk more meriting it. I do see such threads here by beginners trying to show that the are teaching other members some things when they are supposed to use that free time to learn new things to improve in their knowledge.

Do you even know that writing a single line of reply can earn you plenty of merits from different people than writing many lengthy things? The key thing there is to give the necessary information. If someone ask for wallet recommendation, how straight to the point, don't beat around the bush, if someone ask what is the best way to avoid scams, give them precise information and not what they don't need and you will be fine with merits.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: Pi-network314159 on March 30, 2024, 01:51:57 PM
You just really need to bring your mind down. In this forum there is no magic. your knowledge speaks for you. Look at what others are doing. Success is not achieve by mirely speaking. Action speaks louder than words. Many newbies who came have repeated this same topic, most of them who where smart to understand how the forum works always put more effort in contributing meaningfully to get where they are today. So don't be discouraged lengthy post is not what earn people merit but how informative your post may be. It can only be a 1 line word but pases a strong message, you may earn a merry from it. So explore the forum and see what others are doing.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: Viscore on March 30, 2024, 09:22:47 PM
It's about the content, you dont need to have a large amount of text that doesn't make sense with the content or does not really beneficial information, many users gets merit because of the content they have, the substantial how they contribute the information, help with the other members with the recent or even in the future members will face the same concern. Youve joined last year and you don't need to get bothered in the merit if you know how much you help and contribute to the community. Keep enjoying the learnings.
Lengthy post never guarantees merits, but it’s certainly on the impact of the content. If you think you are giving substantial and relevant information not only for newbies, but for majority, hence your post deserve merits. However, let’s put in mind to never chase merits, instead focus on making an impact in the forum through posting high quality and valuable contents, that way merits will be easily gain and earned without putting pressures in your head.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: Cryptomultiplier on March 30, 2024, 09:31:42 PM
It's clearly more by chance than by lengthy article.
Brevity is king in this day and age where people multitask on their devices and spend so little amount of time reading odd subjects that may or may not affect their daily lives.
Some lengthy post can earn merits though, but it must possess real information that is new and sort after mostly as regards the issues or improvement or advancement of the decentralized network, cryptocurrency and Bitcoin in particular.
Still, everyone loves a brief but concise article with a very thoughtful point to ponder upon. That's where the merits come mostly from.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: Belarge on March 30, 2024, 10:58:49 PM
Quality over quantity as always is better but from my view I have seen some lengthy post receive merit, everything depends on your knowledge and what you pass out from your post, from my opinion read more and learn before you can be able to post quality. Excepting merit from a lengthy post with zero quality makes no sense and it looks like a wasted effort from my view. I have seen several topics with comment like the topic got no merit but members who commented received merit, so let's say those topics had no value, understanding how merit works is complicated and I think you should focus  more on something else.
One thing is been a trader and another is grabbing efficient strategy to trade. The bitcoin talk forum is not a platform for tendering uncensored complaints, we're you have make a 30 minutes. Merits are affordable and channel to the best posts made on the forums. Quality posts should be our target and we should never be in progress when we're sliding behind. In every thing you do, ensure you're always doing the right things and sticks for faith because it's one of the fuel that drives one to become established in the market.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: GbitG on March 31, 2024, 09:48:05 AM
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Hmm, pretty good question OP.
 
According to my opinion, merit should not belong to lengthy postes or topics. Rather you should emphasize your knowledge and explain it. It means that a large post does not attract people, you have to explain the big meaning in small words. 
 
My personal opinion is that quantity is not quality. I am putting in front of you some of the rules of the post, which in my opinion, has caused me to get merit. Which you can also implement and post quality better. 
✔. Explore new knowledge as much as possible and explain it in easy and simple words.
✔. Do not hesitate to ask high-ranking members in any thread, whatever you want to ask or explain within the scope of the principle, you can express it through a clear-cut post. 
 
Advice: IMHO, you should just focus on post quality and not merit. If your post quality is better, then you will definitely get merit.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: Churchillvv on March 31, 2024, 10:13:01 AM
What brings merit is quality post but the quality of your post is subjective which means it depends on the merit source spread merit based on what he /she considers as quality post.

A quality post can either be lengthy or short but it's more about the information that it contains. Sometimes your post can be very informative but it has been treated or it's known to the people already hence they do not consider it anymore.

But perhaps you want to earn some merit for good post then you have to look at how people who have been earning some good merit does it and then if you follow the steps it certainly bring you some merit too.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: Su-asa on March 31, 2024, 06:55:08 PM
Initially, I use to think merit is by chance ( i.e something that will just happen) or lengthy article ( i.e writing too many paragraphs and the rest of them), but I have come to realize that, it is more than that.
I have being discouraged several times because of my numerous posts and replies yet no merit then. Even now, some times I use to be discourage. However, the only way to get merit is by posting quality article ( that is what determines merit) which almost everybody is aware of now.
In summary, don't look at the quantity of post you have make so far but instead try to adjust, I mean improve in your posts, above all be consistent and patient that is the key.
However there are many replies that have given you the answers to your thoughts.
Receiving merits doesn't work with the lengths of your posting patterns, you can receive more than 1 merits from a good post that doesn't have much lengths ie just one line or two as long as what you are saying has meaning and impact to the Bitcoin space/community. Sometimes, if you have tried writing with this pattern and it's not given you merits the way you want just change it to a better way, you will get merits.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: Crypto Library on March 31, 2024, 07:19:03 PM
Initially, I use to think merit is by chance ( i.e something that will just happen) or lengthy article ( i.e writing too many paragraphs and the rest of them), but I have come to realize that, it is more than that.
I have being discouraged several times because of my numerous posts and replies yet no merit then. Even now, some times I use to be discourage. However, the only way to get merit is by posting quality article ( that is what determines merit) which almost everybody is aware of now.
In summary, don't look at the quantity of post you have make so far but instead try to adjust, I mean improve in your posts, above all be consistent and patient that is the key.
You catch the right point. There are many accounts whose post quantity is above 2000 but they don't get a single merit especially such users are bounty hunters.  Moreover there are many accounts which have not received merit even in last 2/1 year. To get merit, a user must pay attention to the quality of his post, not in his post quantity or length. I would like to give you another suggestion at this place that first remove the merit earning from your mind and spend time in the forum and ask questions on the topics which you find difficult to understand.
And besides another thing is to present what you know or what you are learning, basically help the users of the forum and find out new ideas, you can see your merit will come on your own.
I would also like to suggest you to read this topic- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3182178.0


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: Iroh on March 31, 2024, 07:40:33 PM
Trying to teach people what they likely already know won’t get you any acknowledgment from anyone. You can write a lengthy post and no matter how much time and supposed effort you put into it and still not get a single merit. Such a a post could  be boring to read cause of its length that would likely have redundant and repetitive content. Posting content that someone else finds informative and useful could get you merits.
A lot of people end up writing long posts in a bid to get their message across clearer to everyone but could end up confusing people instead. Go straight to the point and make it short and simple.



Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: Adbitco on March 31, 2024, 07:56:18 PM
People talks about merits all time, I still don't know why it pulls them so hard about merits. For merits to flow, engage yourself with a good reply this doesn't necessarily mean that you must create a huge content or even go somewhere else to source for materials to post before you would received theme.
Most times activeness and on topic gets you merits.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: Sanitough on March 31, 2024, 08:52:51 PM
Initially, I use to think merit is by chance ( i.e something that will just happen) or lengthy article ( i.e writing too many paragraphs and the rest of them), but I have come to realize that, it is more than that.
I have being discouraged several times because of my numerous posts and replies yet no merit then. Even now, some times I use to be discourage. However, the only way to get merit is by posting quality article ( that is what determines merit) which almost everybody is aware of now.
In summary, don't look at the quantity of post you have make so far but instead try to adjust, I mean improve in your posts, above all be consistent and patient that is the key.
You catch the right point. There are many accounts whose post quantity is above 2000 but they don't get a single merit especially such users are bounty hunters.  Moreover there are many accounts which have not received merit even in last 2/1 year. To get merit, a user must pay attention to the quality of his post, not in his post quantity or length. I would like to give you another suggestion at this place that first remove the merit earning from your mind and spend time in the forum and ask questions on the topics which you find difficult to understand.
And besides another thing is to present what you know or what you are learning, basically help the users of the forum and find out new ideas, you can see your merit will come on your own.
I would also like to suggest you to read this topic- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3182178.0
While merits are required so you can level up on your rank or position, but getting obsessed with merit earning is not good at all. It will only push yourself to end up making topics that are not relevant at all because of your obsession to get merits. My advice is just take a single step one at a time. Take time to learn everyday until you come to absorb the most essential ideas in the forum. Eventually, your knowledge develops as well as your potential to create quality posts. Merits will easily come in the future even without lengthy post and time consuming post.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: nurilham on March 31, 2024, 08:57:00 PM
What brings merit is quality post but the quality of your post is subjective which means it depends on the merit source spread merit based on what he /she considers as quality post.
Indeed. Sometimes the quality can be quite subjective, each person can have a different perception about the quality. It is the same as the information we share on our post, some people may think it can be useful but other may think it is a common thing.

We don't only rely on the merit source to get merits. Each person who has sMerit, they can give us merits as well. However, they sometimes can be very generous but they can also be very stingy.

A quality post can either be lengthy or short but it's more about the information that it contains. Sometimes your post can be very informative but it has been treated or it's known to the people already hence they do not consider it anymore.
Yes. The quality doesn't always depend on the length of the post. A short post can be a quality post if it is an informative or useful post. However, it is true that whether it is informative or useful can be subjective. It depends on how the person who view the post.

But perhaps you want to earn some merit for good post then you have to look at how people who have been earning some good merit does it and then if you follow the steps it certainly bring you some merit too.
It is not a must to follow other people's ways. But makes sure our posts fulfil the minimum standard of quality posts.
At least, it should be : informative, constructive, easy to understand, and follow a correct writing method.



Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: stadus on March 31, 2024, 08:58:41 PM
I don't know if it's just me but I think posts concerning merits have been raised frequently this week. Anyways back to the question. Merits are not rewarded based on  lengthy threads. If not , obviously if that was the case every single lengthy thread here on this forum would have a ton of merits. It is very possible to have a very lengthy garbage post however you could have a post of just 2 paragraphs carrying valid information. In fact I have discovered that most forum members prefer nicely summarized posts carrying pure info compared to a lengthy thread on same topic.

Merits depend on quality not length of the  post. Infact the more quality your post carries the more people would always want to venture reading it and thus merit it. Like I always say merits are magnets to quality posts the higher the impact of the thread the higher the chances of more merit.
Let’s just put it this way, the heavier the impact of your post content, the higher the merits you will received. But bear in mind that you are not posting to gain merits, but because you want to share crucial information that other members will most likely benefit. And by just being genuine in your post without the intention to gain merits, posting by giving satisfying answers to the questions, if you do it consistently, people will notice the authenticity of your post and merit your post along the way.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: alastantiger on March 31, 2024, 09:49:33 PM
It depends. It is not by luck because whoever merits a posts has their own reason for doing so. And this may go to a short post of 3 lines or a long post of more than 20 lines. Of all the reasons for meriting a post, luck is not one of it. Unless you chose to see it this way that the harder a user on the forum works, the luckier they get in receiving merits. See to examples of a short post reply with more merits and also a lengthy post with many merits.

Sample of a lengthy article with meritshttps://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/03/31/VtrPH.png
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Sample of a short reply with meritshttps://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/03/31/VtVxv.png


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: _BlackStar on March 31, 2024, 10:02:58 PM
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However there are many replies that have given you the answers to your thoughts.
Receiving merits doesn't work with the lengths of your posting patterns, you can receive more than 1 merits from a good post that doesn't have much lengths ie just one line or two as long as what you are saying has meaning and impact to the Bitcoin space/community. Sometimes, if you have tried writing with this pattern and it's not given you merits the way you want just change it to a better way, you will get merits.
In simple terms, merit is given to quality posts - but the quality of a post is very subjective. You will get merit not because you post long or short - but the quality of the post is what determines the most.

My advice is not make post for merit - but regular natural posting is more likely to bring you merit. Also don't create topics to fish for merit - also don't mention merit source to make your post aware, that's a bad attempt in my opinion.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: DdmrDdmr on April 01, 2024, 09:09:57 AM
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Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Whatever we had in mind before today regarding this question needs to be reviewed … From today onwards, and until further notive, creating lengthy post is in fact counterproductive, as per the new adjustments made to the Merit calculation (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5491135.msg63884686#msg63884686), substracting merits from your score the lengthier the post gets (-1 Merit every 15 characters) … Make every character count …

Note: situation back to normal...


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: doomloop on April 01, 2024, 11:40:54 AM
Initially, I use to think merit is by chance ( i.e something that will just happen) or lengthy article ( i.e writing too many paragraphs and the rest of them), but I have come to realize that, it is more than that.
I have being discouraged several times because of my numerous posts and replies yet no merit then. Even now, some times I use to be discourage. However, the only way to get merit is by posting quality article ( that is what determines merit) which almost everybody is aware of now.
In summary, don't look at the quantity of post you have make so far but instead try to adjust, I mean improve in your posts, above all be consistent and patient that is the key.
If a person joins the forum thinking that they would come here, make posts repeatedly in a short period, earn a bunch of Merits, rank up, and join signature and bounty campaigns to earn money then I think this wish will get them exhausted very soon and the result would be them leaving the forum.

The purpose of joining this forum should be to get a lot of your doubts clear about the cryptocurrency industry and learn a lot of things that we never knew before joining the forum.

When it comes to Merits, a diamond doesn't need to prove itself because its shine says it all. Similarly, an experienced and knowledgeable person's contributions tell how able the person is and what he/she deserves.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: Mpamaegbu on April 01, 2024, 01:27:07 PM
Initially, I use to think merit is by chance ( i.e something that will just happen) or lengthy article ( i.e writing too many paragraphs and the rest of them), but I have come to realize that, it is more than that.
Yes, it's more than all that. It's a subjective thing. What makes User A award merit to a post may not be what User B looks at awarding his.

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I have being discouraged several times because of my numerous posts and replies yet no merit then. Even now, some times I use to be discourage.
I know how frustrating that can be, posting without getting merited would make one see one's posts as substandard and shitty. I had a long merit draught season from my senior rank to hero. It was from the hero rank that I got merit splash that easily took me to the legendary rank. My advice to you in all this is never be discouraged that your posts aren't getting merited now. Continue posting constructively and don't think much of it. Merits will come when you least expect it.

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In summary, don't look at the quantity of post you have make so far but instead try to adjust, I mean improve in your posts, above all be consistent and patient that is the key.
If one doesn't look at the quality of posts one makes, how does one make adjustments then? Perhaps I didn't understand your comment well. Is it?


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: Wakate on April 01, 2024, 02:23:57 PM
People talks about merits all time, I still don't know why it pulls them so hard about merits. For merits to flow, engage yourself with a good reply this doesn't necessarily mean that you must create a huge content or even go somewhere else to source for materials to post before you would received theme.
Most times activeness and on topic gets you merits.
Merit is neither by posting lengthy posts nor shot posts. There are people that had been disappointed about the length of there post and still they don't get merits. Merits is now of a competition for those that see it like that but it must contain quality. There are posters that lose that idea and what they care about to keep writing long posts that some persons might find uninteresting to read. We can always make our posts shorter and make it cary content because that is what is going to attract merits to us. How convincing and exciting the content is could attract merit source to merit the post without any worries.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: reagansimms on April 01, 2024, 02:34:53 PM
People talks about merits all time, I still don't know why it pulls them so hard about merits. For merits to flow, engage yourself with a good reply this doesn't necessarily mean that you must create a huge content or even go somewhere else to source for materials to post before you would received theme.
Most times activeness and on topic gets you merits.
It's very realistic that people talk about the merit system all the time especially for those who don't fully understand how the merit system works on the forums. Most Newbies or members who have just joined the forum post very often in the hope of merit. They assume that merit will always be present in every post that they themselves consider quality, even though only other members judge whether a post is quality or not.

I agree that to get merit you don't always have to create lengthy content, merit contributors have their own judgment in assessing whether content is worthy of merit or not. For members who still think merit is difficult to obtain, it seems like they have to learn from this member Turbartuluk (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3527653) to get motivation on how to produce quality posts that can bring them merit.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: AakZaki on April 02, 2024, 06:18:38 AM
There is no such thing as coincidence or because the article or comment is long, merit is obtained because the responses given are quite good and useful and in line with what is being discussed. Many members give long answers or create long threads but they don't have any benefit and they also use GPT chat to reply to every comment. The quality of a person can be seen by how they answer well and not just nonsense.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: Uhwuchukwu53 on April 02, 2024, 06:44:34 AM
Op have you ever imagined why some created topic has no comment even if it has it will only be a few comments, it's because those topics has nothing to offer. This apply to reply or comment the activities of the forum has it rewards be it comment, topic or reply but this only happens when it's done wrightly.

The forum is not how far but how well, example allot of products exist in our domestic market as close substitute to others but there always remain a particular one that people go for more than the others so it's for merrit here quality post is the answer it doesn't matter how short or lengthy it's what matter is it quality what is needed is not quantity but quality, information passing and lesson deriving post .

Just like some students in school will write exam and full their answer shit some even requested for extra at the end having f9 when result is released so it's in making post here you can't write shit and expect reward, answer to many questions don't need too many statement or sentence as long you do it write even with short words you receive your Merritt. There is not favoritism or nepotism in the forum.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: Jawhead999 on April 02, 2024, 07:12:52 AM
Op have you ever imagined why some created topic has no comment even if it has it will only be a few comments, it's because those topics has nothing to offer. This apply to reply or comment the activities of the forum has it rewards be it comment, topic or reply but this only happens when it's done wrightly.

Just like some students in school will write exam and full their answer shit some even requested for extra at the end having f9 when result is released so it's in making post here you can't write shit and expect reward, answer to many questions don't need too many statement or sentence as long you do it write even with short words you receive your Merritt. There is not favoritism or nepotism in the forum.
This thread Why the block height do not correspod to bitcoin core database size? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5394080.0) only received 3 replies, but many users meriting their posts. There's no correlation between no or less comments with merit, you can visit thread in gambling discussion and it's really rare users get merit there because it's full of spam.

I disagree, in school you're actually get better result when you write long essay instead of straight forward answer. Have you taken IELTS exam? probably you need to watch this https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6XtqWTVJ7a0


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: Shamm on April 02, 2024, 02:16:07 PM
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Hmm, pretty good question OP.
 
According to my opinion, merit should not belong to lengthy postes or topics. Rather you should emphasize your knowledge and explain it. It means that a large post does not attract people, you have to explain the big meaning in small words. 
 
My personal opinion is that quantity is not quality. I am putting in front of you some of the rules of the post, which in my opinion, has caused me to get merit. Which you can also implement and post quality better. 
✔. Explore new knowledge as much as possible and explain it in easy and simple words.
✔. Do not hesitate to ask high-ranking members in any thread, whatever you want to ask or explain within the scope of the principle, you can express it through a clear-cut post. 
 
Advice: IMHO, you should just focus on post quality and not merit. If your post quality is better, then you will definitely get merit.

We can earn merits not because we made a very long  topics or threads but we can earn merits by expressing our knowledge and how we delivered our thoughts once other users like our post cause they learned something then they will give some merits to us. In short even 20 words of reply once it will helpful and useful then you got some merits. Anyways some users didn't attract to those long threads cause they will felt tired  to read all of those thread.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: Gladitorcomeback on April 02, 2024, 07:36:28 PM
Anyways some users didn't attract to those long threads cause they will felt tired  to read all of those thread.

No one, including me, would get bored or tired of reading a post that contains helpful and constructive information and knowledge. So as you said, it's not about the length of a post being created but it is the quality it contains. Even very long posts are read with interest in many sections of the forum but only if they have some meaning and are contributing to the discussion. Someone would surely ignore a post being unnecessarily long while containing nothing useful and read-worthy.

It's a common misconception among newbies that making long posts earn you merits and it's because they see long posts from senior members getting a lot of merits but they fail to determine the fact that those posts are of high-quality and aren't some gibberish written to unnecessarily prolong the post.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: Maslate on April 02, 2024, 10:30:12 PM
Anyways some users didn't attract to those long threads cause they will felt tired  to read all of those thread.

No one, including me, would get bored or tired of reading a post that contains helpful and constructive information and knowledge. So as you said, it's not about the length of a post being created but it is the quality it contains. Even very long posts are read with interest in many sections of the forum but only if they have some meaning and are contributing to the discussion. Someone would surely ignore a post being unnecessarily long while containing nothing useful and read-worthy.

It's a common misconception among newbies that making long posts earn you merits and it's because they see long posts from senior members getting a lot of merits but they fail to determine the fact that those posts are of high-quality and aren't some gibberish written to unnecessarily prolong the post.
Well, not all long posts are actually talking about trash since some are indeed useful and have high quality contents. It’s just that it’s common for us that once we start seeing long threads, eventually it gets tiring for us to read that we don’t want to start reading it anymore. Not realizing that long posts have detailed explanation that will contribute to the full understanding of the reader, without skipping important details that will totally help those who decide to read with patience.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: GeorgeJohn on April 02, 2024, 10:43:19 PM
Merit is not by chance or how lengthy your article is, to my best of knowledge, the more the article content of what you're posting is the more its getting complicated for others to read and understand the major idea in your post, so merit is giving by the level of the quality of your post, which is felt by the reader and he make the judgement that your post is deserving to receive merit provided that he has some smerits to give out, be it a merit source or other members of the forum.
in this question I think everyone has it on way of explaining what gives merit based on your your  experience on article composition, but from my own perspective merit is being given based on the quality of your composition and how meaningful and educative is your article, that is what make some people to like your writing in order to give you a merit, because giving someone a merit is a personal choice and it is based on what you understand through the composition of that person will make you to Merit the person so giving out merit does not determine by how lengthy is your article, its base ob how comprehensive is your work.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: Bako97 on April 03, 2024, 12:52:28 AM
You don't need to create a thread or write a quality article first before you can earn merit. Merit is given by different members for different purposes; all that's needed is to be yourself and be productive.
 
You can earn merit by just asking the right question, and you can also earn merit by just answering other people's questions and solving a problem.
 
Merit most often comes from places we might expect less of. What we think others might like and see as worthy of merit might have a different picture in their own view, so it's best to focus on being yourself rather than looking for ways to make a post that will earn your merit, as that might end up leading the person to nowhere. 

You really boost my horizon on how the whole forum works, in a simple statement; we are all here to share and receive knowledge, one gets accolade by the knowledge he shares for the benefit of others.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: Loveday422 on April 04, 2024, 08:57:15 AM
You don't need to create a thread or write a quality article first before you can earn merit. Merit is given by different members for different purposes; all that's needed is to be yourself and be productive.
 
You can earn merit by just asking the right question, and you can also earn merit by just answering other people's questions and solving a problem.
 
Merit most often comes from places we might expect less of. What we think others might like and see as worthy of merit might have a different picture in their own view, so it's best to focus on being yourself rather than looking for ways to make a post that will earn your merit, as that might end up leading the person to nowhere. 
I agree with you sir ,one need to be himself and focus to the right direction,Not what people will think will bring merit,let it be ,they watch your speech and your character when making a point actually,your post has also motivated me the more thanks boss


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: Zanab247 on April 06, 2024, 01:51:52 PM
Writing a long post will not guarantee you a merits in this forum because, the members that merits users consider the quality post you construct to impact others users in the forum and you must be an active member that is always contributing in other members trend in the forum.

If you are a type of person that is creating topics for merits purpose or commenting on people trend for merits purpose in the forum, it will not make people to merits you because they know what you are looking for that is making you to write the long post that are not quality standard in the forum.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: Distinctin on April 06, 2024, 09:59:56 PM
What brings merit is quality post but the quality of your post is subjective which means it depends on the merit source spread merit based on what he /she considers as quality post.

A quality post can either be lengthy or short but it's more about the information that it contains. Sometimes your post can be very informative but it has been treated or it's known to the people already hence they do not consider it anymore.

But perhaps you want to earn some merit for good post then you have to look at how people who have been earning some good merit does it and then if you follow the steps it certainly bring you some merit too.
Well, it’s the content of the post that matters the most, regardless if it’s written short but precise or long and detailed. But I suggest stick more on shorter post that still creates a huge impact to the readers, than to make a lengthy post and makes the reader get tired or bored. Just try to observe how those reputable legendary members are constructing their post, most likely they’re not that long but you will really notice that it goes straight to the point. And what is completely required by the thread, the poster have provided it well, no wonder why even a simple yet meaningful post still gets numerous merits.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: Zoomic on April 07, 2024, 03:16:13 PM
Initially, I use to think merit is by chance ( i.e something that will just happen) or lengthy article ( i.e writing too many paragraphs and the rest of them), but I have come to realize that, it is more than that.
I have being discouraged several times because of my numerous posts and replies yet no merit then. Even now, some times I use to be discourage. However, the only way to get merit is by posting quality article ( that is what determines merit) which almost everybody is aware of now.
In summary, don't look at the quantity of post you have make so far but instead try to adjust, I mean improve in your posts, above all be consistent and patient that is the key.

I can still remember vividly my early days in the forum,  I used to think I'll have to impress the forum members with high vocabularies, lengthy posts and over ambiguous contents so as to get merits and rankup faster than my mates, but I was wrong ;D, such posts never gave me merits. Only posts which had positive impacts on the readers whether short or lengthy gave me merits, even more than I anticipated.

Making lengthy posts is not bad, sometimes your ideas might be too broad that it becomes difficult for you to compress them into a very short post. But, the lengthy post becomes an issue when the content is all about repetitions of ideas just to make it long to impress the forum members. No one will be interested in reading a long uninspiring post.

While making any post, forget about getting merits and be yourself. Allow the ideas flow naturally and anyone who gets the impact of your message will award you some merits


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: fullhdpixel on April 08, 2024, 06:10:55 PM
The only time writing a lengthy paragraphs is if you are writing a guide or tutorial that is really long. If you wrote episode with plenty of words just to convince anyone that you are good at writing script, people might not even reply your thread not talk more meriting it. I do see such threads here by beginners trying to show that the are teaching other members some things when they are supposed to use that free time to learn new things to improve in their knowledge.

Do you even know that writing a single line of reply can earn you plenty of merits from different people than writing many lengthy things? The key thing there is to give the necessary information. If someone ask for wallet recommendation, how straight to the point, don't beat around the bush, if someone ask what is the best way to avoid scams, give them precise information and not what they don't need and you will be fine with merits.
It is said that a diamond is recognized by its brilliance, the same way, an experienced person is recognized by his knowledge and research. New members of this forum are probably unaware that the older and experienced members here are capable of understanding their abilities from their very first post.

Every day I read messages from people who don't even know what they are talking about, they just want to draw people's attention with their long texts. While replying to the posts of others, after being completely unaware of this matter, they sit down with their own stories about what is going on, which they think can give them merit but it doesn't happen at all.

I wish people stop running after merit and focus on their research and their knowledge.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: Bravut on April 08, 2024, 09:25:27 PM
Merit is given when you make a quality post, if am to pick from your options OP, it's given by chance not making lengthy article, it doesn't count. If you're making lengthy article it most be a quality and reasonable post. That what  count the knowledge you are sharing not writing shit  or making off comments.

Why I choose chance is because most at times one can make a quality post but not merited because the reader wasn't at time having the feeling or need to, we can see that even if we make quality post it's subjective to the reader. We can sight example to the Wall Street Observer section, you see how post that isn't suppose to be merited are given. There is little or no lengthy post there but merits are just given based on chanced and how the reader see the need for.

This can't be overstretched in a simple word make quality post,worthy of sharing and remove your mind from getting merits on every post.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: Youngkhngdiddy on April 08, 2024, 11:34:25 PM
Merit is given when you make a quality post, if am to pick from your options OP, it's given by chance not making lengthy article, it doesn't count. If you're making lengthy article it most be a quality and reasonable post. That what  count the knowledge you are sharing not writing shit  or making off comments.

Why I choose chance is because most at times one can make a quality post but not merited because the reader wasn't at time having the feeling or need to, we can see that even if we make quality post it's subjective to the reader. We can sight example to the Wall Street Observer section, you see how post that isn't suppose to be merited are given. There is little or no lengthy post there but merits are just given based on chanced and how the reader see the need for.

This can't be overstretched in a simple word make quality post,worthy of sharing and remove your mind from getting merits on every post.

  Not all good post will be merited that’s something you should consider, that doesn’t mean the post isn’t quality enough. A good post of course when reviewed will be merited, the merit serve as a someone buying into your idea or maybe the post is informative and useful to the forum. I just feel like if you’re posting just to get merit, you may end up doing too much thereby putting yourself at risk of making shit post instead, here in the forum you don’t have to be uptight and it a forum of course and not an office where you answer to anybody. Of course we have to follow and abide to the rules of the forum so as to keep the community organized. It’s a discussion community where we come to share idea and also be schooled too. We can’t know everything for sure, if we are too uptight here and just posting to gain merit  I feel like we will forget the main ingredient of the forum and that is to also learn some new things too.
  Of course merit is important that will help your profile grow, but have you ask yourself why those that post just few words get merit compared to the ones with lengthy paragraphs, i just feel like you have to understand the forum on your own part, study how other higher ranks in the forum construct their post. That will even make you a better writer. It not about your lengthy post, your lengthy post might mean a thing but you might still be saying same thing as the person who just constructed few write up, and the person is banging merit. It’s not that the person is special or anything it just how well constructed the post is. Before you make any post at least you have to have an idea so as to share your insight about the topic being discussed. It not about writing just to meet your quota, your posts is been seen by the thousands of people here in the forum. Now you see why information is powerful. Your information or idea can teach or enlighten the thousands of people here in the forum. Write to educate and not for merits.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: KingsDen on April 09, 2024, 06:23:49 PM
What brings merit is quality post but the quality of your post is subjective which means it depends on the merit source spread merit based on what he /she considers as quality post.

A quality post can either be lengthy or short but it's more about the information that it contains. Sometimes your post can be very informative but it has been treated or it's known to the people already hence they do not consider it anymore.

But perhaps you want to earn some merit for good post then you have to look at how people who have been earning some good merit does it and then if you follow the steps it certainly bring you some merit too.
In my early days here, I discovered something about merits. I discovered one earlier and the other later.
What I discovered earlier was;
When you have the consciousness of getting merits and put good efforts in your posts, you will earn it. This worked for me many times, but at a time it stopped working for me. No matter how merit conscious I'll be, I will not get merits.
The second phase came;
This was when I started flowing with the forum discussion and never had merits in mind because I already earned enough to take me to Snr member. Merits started coming gradually and was steady. So, merit is just dynamic.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: SatoPrincess on April 09, 2024, 08:24:09 PM
Op have you ever imagined why some created topic has no comment even if it has it will only be a few comments, it's because those topics has nothing to offer. This apply to reply or comment the activities of the forum has it rewards be it comment, topic or reply but this only happens when it's done wrightly.
I disagree. Having fewer replies on a thread doesn’t mean that the post is low quality. It could be that the OP asked a question that’s been answered by the first 3 or 4 posters. It makes no sense repeating or rephrasing what has been said before.

what matter is it quality what is needed is not quantity but quality, information passing and lesson deriving post .
I believe this is the reason why newbies tend to create guides for other newbies to follow. They have this idea that the fastest way to earn merit is to become a teacher on the forum.

Just like some students in school will write exam and full their answer shit some even requested for extra at the end having f9 when result is released so it's in making post here you can't write shit and expect reward, answer to many questions don't need too many statement or sentence as long you do it write even with short words you receive your Merritt.
Like in college, this is a subjective thing. Some professors like to see lengthy answers and others prefer concise explanations. Merits is also the forum, everyone has his/her own preferences on what they consider merit worthy posts.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: Dunamisx on April 09, 2024, 08:26:38 PM
Writing a long post will not guarantee you a merits in this forum because, the members that merits users consider the quality post you construct to impact others users in the forum and you must be an active member that is always contributing in other members trend in the forum.

If you are a type of person that is creating topics for merits purpose or commenting on people trend for merits purpose in the forum, it will not make people to merits you because they know what you are looking for that is making you to write the long post that are not quality standard in the forum.

It is even easy to identify those that phish for merit by making post, such content will be seen as not genuine type because it will be full of lies, then if someone thinks about making much content on a post is what can help them get merits, then they are missing the whole idea on what a quality post is all about, instead, such user will only be spamming thinking they are pleasing others with what they are posting.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: rachael9385 on April 09, 2024, 08:30:03 PM
Lengthy post is not the standard for merit worthy post. Besides, it all depends on the sender, most merit source send based on the quality informative your post holds, while you can also get merited due to your behavior, achievement or help you offer to others. One thing about hunting for merit is that you may not receive any merit after putting in much effort to make a lengthy and quality post and that will surely discourage you for making more quality post, but when you make post with the aim of discussing and sharing ideas, you'll be surprised how the merits would start coming in. But first, equip yourself with enough knowledge so you can make quality post. What matters the most is the content of what you have written, is it beneficial to the readers in this forum? Is it most importantly related to Bitcoin?


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: Churchillvv on April 09, 2024, 09:47:28 PM
What brings merit is quality post but the quality of your post is subjective which means it depends on the merit source spread merit based on what he /she considers as quality post.

A quality post can either be lengthy or short but it's more about the information that it contains. Sometimes your post can be very informative but it has been treated or it's known to the people already hence they do not consider it anymore.

But perhaps you want to earn some merit for good post then you have to look at how people who have been earning some good merit does it and then if you follow the steps it certainly bring you some merit too.
In my early days here, I discovered something about merits. I discovered one earlier and the other later.
What I discovered earlier was;
When you have the consciousness of getting merits and put good efforts in your posts, you will earn it. This worked for me many times, but at a time it stopped working for me. No matter how merit conscious I'll be, I will not get merits.
The second phase came;
This was when I started flowing with the forum discussion and never had merits in mind because I already earned enough to take me to Snr member. Merits started coming gradually and was steady. So, merit is just dynamic.
I understand such situations, and I think I'm currently in the second phase where I don't longer search for merits, although I'm not up to a senior member rank. I feel more relaxed now and a bit more experienced, so I'm not as merit conscious as before, when I used to crack my head on what to do to earn merit because almost everything I thought of was already done before hand.

Now, it seems I understand the merit system better, so I don't force myself on merit sources to earn merit, but I just do my best by contributing continuously regardless of whether merit is coming or not. Also in my local board, I never thought I would be receiving merit from there because I wasn't acquainted with how it works, but at one point, I woke up to two merits from @hugeblack in the local board and @CryptopreneurBrainboss for honestly speaking my mind. From that day until date, I have not been chasing merit because I no longer believe that when it's time for you to earn merit, you will, no matter what.

So what I just encourage other mates to do is keep the stone rolling. You may not be noticed today, but at least tomorrow is another day.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: odunybiz on April 09, 2024, 11:45:07 PM
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Hmm, pretty good question OP.
 
According to my opinion, merit should not belong to lengthy postes or topics. Rather you should emphasize your knowledge and explain it. It means that a large post does not attract people, you have to explain the big meaning in small words.
 
My personal opinion is that quantity is not quality. I am putting in front of you some of the rules of the post, which in my opinion, has caused me to get merit. Which you can also implement and post quality better.
✔. Explore new knowledge as much as possible and explain it in easy and simple words.
✔. Do not hesitate to ask high-ranking members in any thread, whatever you want to ask or explain within the scope of the principle, you can express it through a clear-cut post.
 
Advice: IMHO, you should just focus on post quality and not merit. If your post quality is better, then you will definitely get merit.

We can earn merits not because we made a very long  topics or threads but we can earn merits by expressing our knowledge and how we delivered our thoughts once other users like our post cause they learned something then they will give some merits to us. In short even 20 words of reply once it will helpful and useful then you got some merits. Anyways some users didn't attract to those long threads cause they will felt tired  to read all of those thread.

Just few words sentences can give you a merit which more than 400 words can't give. A meanful and helpful post or reply are more welcome than a lengthy and meaningless post. Learning to write a good and reasonable post either short or lengthy is the best to grow in the forum.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: freedomgo on April 10, 2024, 12:00:18 AM
Merit is not by chance or how lengthy your article is, to my best of knowledge, the more the article content of what you're posting is the more its getting complicated for others to read and understand the major idea in your post, so merit is giving by the level of the quality of your post, which is felt by the reader and he make the judgement that your post is deserving to receive merit provided that he has some smerits to give out, be it a merit source or other members of the forum.
in this question I think everyone has it on way of explaining what gives merit based on your your  experience on article composition, but from my own perspective merit is being given based on the quality of your composition and how meaningful and educative is your article, that is what make some people to like your writing in order to give you a merit, because giving someone a merit is a personal choice and it is based on what you understand through the composition of that person will make you to Merit the person so giving out merit does not determine by how lengthy is your article, its base ob how comprehensive is your work.
There are still lengthy posts that get merited simply because they are well explained and have contained a lot of helpful insights. Sometimes, that’s also a case to case basis depending on what topic to be discussed. However, I still prefer to go a for short but well precise explanation. As long as the main pint of view is present and can be benefited by a lot of readers, for me that deserves a merit.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: 7juju on April 10, 2024, 09:01:45 AM
Initially, I use to think merit is by chance ( i.e something that will just happen) or lengthy article ( i.e writing too many paragraphs and the rest of them), but I have come to realize that, it is more than that.
I have being discouraged several times because of my numerous posts and replies yet no merit then. Even now, some times I use to be discourage. However, the only way to get merit is by posting quality article ( that is what determines merit) which almost everybody is aware of now.
In summary, don't look at the quantity of post you have make so far but instead try to adjust, I mean improve in your posts, above all be consistent and patient that is the key.
You have said it all, a post that's very lenghty and contains no knowledge or be of any help to someone is of no use. Moreover we don't comment on every posts we come across on the form. Look for threads you know you have adequate knowledge about and dedicate yourself there. Some people comments on every posts they come across on the forum, which is not very good. You already know that without quality posts nothing for you.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: mvdheuvel1983 on April 10, 2024, 05:30:37 PM
A meaningless post will only be seen as a garbage no matter how lengthy the post may be but if a post is of short length with power meaning, well written and easily readable, the message it passes alone will be considered better than the meaningless lengthy post
The merit system has nothing to do with the length of post but the message of the post either attracts merit or the way the post was written, there are users who send out merits due to right grammatical usage of a member in a comment and there are users who also send out merits due to the quality of the post either ways the best ways to get merits is just by doing the right things as required by the forum.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: kawetsriyanto on April 10, 2024, 09:12:07 PM
A meaningless post will only be seen as a garbage no matter how lengthy the post may be but if a post is of short length with power meaning, well written and easily readable, the message it passes alone will be considered better than the meaningless lengthy post
It is true. Even if it is a post with some paragraphs, it won't be a quality post if it has no important things. On the hand, it also won't be a quality post although it has important information in the content but people are difficult to understand the post due to bad way in writing.

The merit system has nothing to do with the length of post but the message of the post either attracts merit or the way the post was written, there are users who send out merits due to right grammatical usage of a member in a comment and there are users who also send out merits due to the quality of the post either ways the best ways to get merits is just by doing the right things as required by the forum.
Of course, a lengthy post never guarantees merits. People will reward merits based on the quality of the post and usefulness of the post. It is not only about the way in writing but it is also related to the content of the post. I think no people give merits because of the right grammatical usage only, the content of the post should be meaningful or valuable as well.




Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: Razmirraz on April 12, 2024, 01:16:27 PM
Initially, I use to think merit is by chance ( i.e something that will just happen) or lengthy article ( i.e writing too many paragraphs and the rest of them), but I have come to realize that, it is more than that.
I have being discouraged several times because of my numerous posts and replies yet no merit then. Even now, some times I use to be discourage. However, the only way to get merit is by posting quality article ( that is what determines merit) which almost everybody is aware of now.
In summary, don't look at the quantity of post you have make so far but instead try to adjust, I mean improve in your posts, above all be consistent and patient that is the key.
Once you have the key, it should be easier for you to do it. What I mean is, as long as you consistently produce quality posts and are patient with appreciation from other members for your efforts to produce quality posts, sooner or later there will be members who give merit to your posts. Always look for opportunities that can bring merit and often post quality content on boards or topics that are frequently visited by Merit Source. You have to approach them by showing something valuable so that they appreciate your posts.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: macson on April 12, 2024, 01:37:28 PM
Initially, I use to think merit is by chance ( i.e something that will just happen) or lengthy article ( i.e writing too many paragraphs and the rest of them), but I have come to realize that, it is more than that.
I have being discouraged several times because of my numerous posts and replies yet no merit then. Even now, some times I use to be discourage. However, the only way to get merit is by posting quality article ( that is what determines merit) which almost everybody is aware of now.
In summary, don't look at the quantity of post you have make so far but instead try to adjust, I mean improve in your posts, above all be consistent and patient that is the key.
If you only prioritize the length of writing and the number of posts to get merit then you will never get it at all.  From what i have noticed, when your account has an attractive reputation, you will easily get "merit", for example if you are active on WO board or Bitcoin technical then you will easily get merit, the point is that you don't create chaos, make disturbing posts or make posts that are personally insulting then your account will get good merit even though the number of posts in your post is short.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: EluguHcman on April 12, 2024, 04:38:39 PM
Another trivial topic from a newbie. I always wonder, OP, at what time do newbies have the epiphany of merit to create topics like this? Don't you read what other newbies write about this? Practically repeating what was said many times. But I always assumed that someone who has gone through this experience and can set their own example should talk about it.
OP, if you don't want to look stupid, then after this thread, you should blow up the forum with the amount of merit that will rain down on you. After all, you have now learned the truth. Otherwise, all your words are just theory, but where is the practice?
OP I indeed a desperate merit hunter. Lol
I do not know if he is feeling cheated to be that he has got posts that deserves to be merited and are being ignored.

Well... Just as you have said, he should have learnt from other newbies and with all the replies on this his alarm, I hope he would adjust his mentality of chasing merits as a prior of being in this forum and focus on how to bring his best and acquire the elementary knowledges of why the forum is concerned about and not based on what he self concerned about in the forum.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: Iroh on April 12, 2024, 10:46:54 PM
You have said it all, a post that's very lenghty and contains no knowledge or be of any help to someone is of no use. Moreover we don't comment on every posts we come across on the form. Look for threads you know you have adequate knowledge about and dedicate yourself there. Some people comments on every posts they come across on the forum, which is not very good. You already know that without quality posts nothing for you.

You’re right on the point you made; people in a bid to get merits go on to write on threads and boards that they have little to no knowledge of what the discussions are about. In a bid to look knowledgeable and perhaps to earn merits, they end up being put on peoples ignore list cause of the misleading or outright false information they keep spewing out.
There’s an active thread aiming to call such users out for posting false and misleading information on the technical board. It’s much better to stick to and contribute your knowledge to the boards and topics you are actually versed  in. You’ll still be recognized and merited


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: CryptopreneurBrainboss on April 13, 2024, 11:02:11 PM
In my early days here, I discovered something about merits. I discovered one earlier and the other later.
What I discovered earlier was;
When you have the consciousness of getting merits and put good efforts in your posts, you will earn it. This worked for me many times, but at a time it stopped working for me. No matter how merit conscious I'll be, I will not get merits.

Let me guess, this worked when you had lesser rank but as you advanced in ranked on the forum it stopped working. Well it was because when you were a member with lesser rank your contribution weren't judged with higher quality just as you'll see a newbie putting efforts into his posting and you'll reward the post with merit. But as the users get older, he shouldn't expect to get merited with the same effort. This is what is holding most accounts from increasing in rank because they're stocked with the mentality that'll keep getting reward for a their minimum efforts as a higher forum user. Typically a newbie quality shouldn't be the same with a Hero/Legendary users because with his advanced rank there should be some evidence of improvement.

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The second phase came;
This was when I started flowing with the forum discussion and never had merits in mind because I already earned enough to take me to Snr member. Merits started coming gradually and was steady. So, merit is just dynamic.

This is how the merit system should work, you shouldn't go around plagiarizing or making use of AI to post just to impress meriters and at the end of the day you ban your account. The quantity of your post doesn't matter and you should know when to deliver a lengthy post for clarification of your points and when to just go straight to the point. What matters most is the quality and not quantity.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: Patrol69 on April 14, 2024, 04:49:22 PM
You are posting and you find that post informative enough but other members who are there don't find your post very informative, maybe all the other members didn't send any merit to your post. Never get disappointed but try to make better quality posts. Never judge the quality of your post based on merit. You just follow the right rules and post in the right section and try to give as much information as possible in your post. Hope you don't have to worry about the merit. You will get the merit already.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: Asiska02 on April 14, 2024, 07:00:19 PM
Initially, I use to think merit is by chance ( i.e something that will just happen) or lengthy article ( i.e writing too many paragraphs and the rest of them), but I have come to realize that, it is more than that.
I have being discouraged several times because of my numerous posts and replies yet no merit then. Even now, some times I use to be discourage. However, the only way to get merit is by posting quality article ( that is what determines merit) which almost everybody is aware of now.
In summary, don't look at the quantity of post you have make so far but instead try to adjust, I mean improve in your posts, above all be consistent and patient that is the key.

Merit is seen as the only means to be noticeable in the forum and been seen as a good poster in the forum. Without any merits on your profile, it means that you’re not a good poster and haven’t contributed something valuable to the forum in all the time you’ve spent here. This could be the case for some people, but to some it isn’t. To be merited sometimes, it has to depend on the person reading your post, acknowledging that it has impacted something into them or other members of the forum before you get merited. Don’t get discouraged when you don’t get plenty merit as expected when you write or reply to a post, it just means the person that the information will be most useful to haven’t come across it. Keep doing your good post and sharing informative posts and good reply in the forum. When the time comes, it happens naturally and you’ll be awed by it.


Title: Re: Do you think merit is by chance or lengthy article?
Post by: CryptoHeadlineNews on April 14, 2024, 07:13:14 PM
Initially, I use to think merit is by chance ( i.e something that will just happen) or lengthy article ( i.e writing too many paragraphs and the rest of them), but I have come to realize that, it is more than that.
I have being discouraged several times because of my numerous posts and replies yet no merit then. Even now, some times I use to be discourage. However, the only way to get merit is by posting quality article ( that is what determines merit) which almost everybody is aware of now.
In summary, don't look at the quantity of post you have make so far but instead try to adjust, I mean improve in your posts, above all be consistent and patient that is the key.
In other to be able to give a viable response to your question, I was able to have a glance through all your posted articles, and to be frank, never did I see any lengthy article, as they are all below 280 words (i.e all short threads). So wondering why the need for this thread? And secondly, I was able to observe that most of the threads you posted were all on Naija local board, of which due to the lack of more merit source on that local board, all thread posted on that local board are likely to lack merit. Thirdly, merits are reward for quality post, but inasmuch that merit are reward s for quality post, it's also necessary that people make that quality post in areas that can be visible to the larger community, because if you are unlucky to make such quality post on the wrong board, so will your thread lack merit, but if you are lucky enough to post in the right board, you will definitely get the deserved merit.

Hence, what remains now is for people to find the right board to make quality post