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Title: Tank Davis Vs Frank Martin WBA Lightweight Title June 22 HoustonTexas
Post by: robelneo on April 06, 2024, 01:15:18 PM
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I did not create a poll for this because the fight seems overmatched but apart from this fight we will also see
David Benavidez vs. Oleksandr Gvozdyk for the Light Heavyweight title eliminator this double header is solid
This is a good tune fight for Tank Davis for a future match up against either Haney or Subriel Matias

Lets disscuss the chances of each boxer on their respective match up.

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Tank Davis vs. Frank Martin: This is a decent title defense, but Martin is expected to be overmatched against Tank. In the 29-year-old’s last fight, he looked bang average, coming close to losing to fringe lightweight contender Artem Harutyunyan.
David Benavidez vs. Oleksandr Gvozdyk: This would have been an excellent fight five to six years ago when Gvozdyk was younger and still firing on all cylinders. His age [he’ll be turning 37 on April 17th] and his four-year layoff after retiring in 2019 take away much of the interest in this match-up.

Source: Tank Davis Vs. Frank Martin, David Benavidez Vs. Oleksandr Gvozdyk: PPV Doubleheader Hits Houston - Boxing News 24 (https://www.boxingnews24.com/2024/04/tank-davis-vs-frank-martin-david-benavidez-vs-oleksandr-gvozdyk-ppv-doubleheader-hits-houston/)


Title: Re: Tank Davis Vs Frank Martin WBA Lightweight Title June 22 HoustonTexas
Post by: coin-investor on April 07, 2024, 08:55:14 AM
It's good that the two will finally have a real fight in the ring after that sparring session where Martin told people that it was him who hurt Tank when they sparred.

He rated Tank Davis as the second big hitter he faced in sparring ahead of an unknown guy named Pablo, he underestimated Tank's power level in this interview

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfD-2uYkUWc

Let's see if he still thinks that Pablo is the power hitter after Tank after Tank knocks him out, the big that he fought was Romero Duno.

Though he has good highlights so far in his career I don't think it is enough to beat Tank.

 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_oVTxr_mRg[Frank Martin (17-0) Highlights & Knockouts[/url)


Title: Re: Tank Davis Vs Frank Martin WBA Lightweight Title June 22 HoustonTexas
Post by: Baofeng on April 12, 2024, 02:09:44 PM
A good video about this fight,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj-ONC5xQ4Y&t=629s

As per Frank Martin, they had spared before and he held his ground or even get the better of Tank and he said that Davis wanted more after they have been separated. But let's see if this translate in the actual fight as Tank Davis is heavy handed. He is on top of my list as far as power goes and next is Inoue, in the smaller weight class.

Fight is still very far we haven't seen the initial press or kick off press conference but this is going to be a big fight for Tank Davis. Not a tune up fight, as others might think of it.


Title: Re: Tank Davis Vs Frank Martin WBA Lightweight Title June 22 HoustonTexas
Post by: Jating on April 13, 2024, 11:15:49 PM
It's supposedly Frank Martin vs Shakur Stevenson but it was called off. I think Martin is not ducking Shakur, but incentive wise, it was reported that he is going to make at least $1 million and could not be satisfied of that amount.

So for sure there are a lot of upside for him to go and fight a even more dangerous boxer in Tank Davis. They have history as said, sparring sessions that goes and there are reports that Martin hold his ground and give Tank Davis all he can eat. But for me, Martin is more of a volume puncher and he doesn't carry power to knock down Tank Davis and on the other hand, he could taste his first defeat here.


Title: Re: Tank Davis Vs Frank Martin WBA Lightweight Title June 22 HoustonTexas
Post by: AmoreJaz on April 13, 2024, 11:57:31 PM
It's supposedly Frank Martin vs Shakur Stevenson but it was called off. I think Martin is not ducking Shakur, but incentive wise, it was reported that he is going to make at least $1 million and could not be satisfied of that amount.

So for sure there are a lot of upside for him to go and fight a even more dangerous boxer in Tank Davis. They have history as said, sparring sessions that goes and there are reports that Martin hold his ground and give Tank Davis all he can eat. But for me, Martin is more of a volume puncher and he doesn't carry power to knock down Tank Davis and on the other hand, he could taste his first defeat here.

As Martin had previous experience inside the ring with Davis, though only during sparring sessions, we can give that he has somehow idea what Davis can do, what strengths/weaknesses he has. And it may help him think of strategies on how to possibly defeat him in actual fight.
But on this fight, more than likely, Davis will be the heavy favourite. Let us see what odds bookies will give to this match. Both are undefeated and on this fight, one will suffer his first loss. That is, if the fight will not end in draw.


Title: Re: Tank Davis Vs Frank Martin WBA Lightweight Title June 22 HoustonTexas
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on April 14, 2024, 12:20:21 AM
It's supposedly Frank Martin vs Shakur Stevenson but it was called off. I think Martin is not ducking Shakur, but incentive wise, it was reported that he is going to make at least $1 million and could not be satisfied of that amount.

So for sure there are a lot of upside for him to go and fight a even more dangerous boxer in Tank Davis. They have history as said, sparring sessions that goes and there are reports that Martin hold his ground and give Tank Davis all he can eat. But for me, Martin is more of a volume puncher and he doesn't carry power to knock down Tank Davis and on the other hand, he could taste his first defeat here.

As Martin had previous experience inside the ring with Davis, though only during sparring sessions, we can give that he has somehow idea what Davis can do, what strengths/weaknesses he has. And it may help him think of strategies on how to possibly defeat him in actual fight.
But on this fight, more than likely, Davis will be the heavy favourite. Let us see what odds bookies will give to this match. Both are undefeated and on this fight, one will suffer his first loss. That is, if the fight will not end in draw.

It's just one sparring though if I'm not mistaken. But from my following of boxing, sooner or later those who spar as one point is going to cross path in a real boxing match. So it's just natural for Frank Martin since he has experience against Tank Davis in a sparring that he will chooses him.

Even there is also a video of Haney and Tank too spread by Floyd and Ryan Garcia. But it doesn't mean that this sparring is a good gauge in my opinion.

Tank is a different animal inside the ring and even if Martin is very confidence as of now that he has chances against this version of Davis, then he might find it not the same anymore, in my opinion.


Title: Re: Tank Davis Vs Frank Martin WBA Lightweight Title June 22 HoustonTexas
Post by: Kemarit on April 14, 2024, 09:36:23 PM
It's supposedly Frank Martin vs Shakur Stevenson but it was called off. I think Martin is not ducking Shakur, but incentive wise, it was reported that he is going to make at least $1 million and could not be satisfied of that amount.

So for sure there are a lot of upside for him to go and fight a even more dangerous boxer in Tank Davis. They have history as said, sparring sessions that goes and there are reports that Martin hold his ground and give Tank Davis all he can eat. But for me, Martin is more of a volume puncher and he doesn't carry power to knock down Tank Davis and on the other hand, he could taste his first defeat here.

As Martin had previous experience inside the ring with Davis, though only during sparring sessions, we can give that he has somehow idea what Davis can do, what strengths/weaknesses he has. And it may help him think of strategies on how to possibly defeat him in actual fight.

Not the same with this boys is sparring, even if there is a video going around as whether Martin got the better of Tank, or some stories around saying that Tank was mad and wanted to get revenge, this sparring it might not be enough to assessed who are going to win if this is a real fight.

But on this fight, more than likely, Davis will be the heavy favourite. Let us see what odds bookies will give to this match. Both are undefeated and on this fight, one will suffer his first loss. That is, if the fight will not end in draw.

So far no odds yet, but I do agree that Davis is going to be a big favorite here. I wouldn't be surprised if the line goes to 4:1 Martin as underdog. Too early for Frank Martin to chase the likes of Tank Davis or even Shakur Stevenson. He needed more experience under his belt to fight this elite at 135.


Title: Re: Tank Davis Vs Frank Martin WBA Lightweight Title June 22 HoustonTexas
Post by: robelneo on April 14, 2024, 10:33:47 PM


As Martin had previous experience inside the ring with Davis, though only during sparring sessions, we can give that he has somehow idea what Davis can do, what strengths/weaknesses he has. And it may help him think of strategies on how to possibly defeat him in actual fight.
But on this fight, more than likely, Davis will be the heavy favourite. Let us see what odds bookies will give to this match. Both are undefeated and on this fight, one will suffer his first loss. That is, if the fight will not end in draw.

It's just one sparring though if I'm not mistaken. But from my following of boxing, sooner or later those who spar as one point is going to cross path in a real boxing match. So it's just natural for Frank Martin since he has experience against Tank Davis in a sparring that he will chooses him.

Even there is also a video of Haney and Tank too spread by Floyd and Ryan Garcia. But it doesn't mean that this sparring is a good gauge in my opinion.

Tank is a different animal inside the ring and even if Martin is very confidence as of now that he has chances against this version of Davis, then he might find it not the same anymore, in my opinion.

It's very different in sparring sessions boxers do sparring to discover and develop variations of their fighting style it is more of a light fighting and if two boxers who spar collide in the they can't use the sparring sessions as their insight on how they are going to fight one another.

Frank Martin can't use it to make people believe that Tank cannot hurt him, you based it on your opponent's actual fight in the ring now how he does sparring.

Frank Martin is the guy who knocks my fellow countryman Romero Duno, this time it's his time to get hurt.
 


Title: Re: Tank Davis Vs Frank Martin WBA Lightweight Title June 22 HoustonTexas
Post by: Yogee on April 14, 2024, 10:53:35 PM
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Fight is still very far we haven't seen the initial press or kick off press conference but this is going to be a big fight for Tank Davis. Not a tune up fight, as others might think of it.
I was about to say this. It must suck for Frank Martin to stay undefeated and rise up the ranks only to be called as a tune up fight hehe. Let's see how he responds about those statements in the ring but I bet he must be fired up while working in the gym right now.


Title: Re: Tank Davis Vs Frank Martin WBA Lightweight Title June 22 HoustonTexas
Post by: FinneysTrueVision on April 15, 2024, 01:37:17 AM
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Fight is still very far we haven't seen the initial press or kick off press conference but this is going to be a big fight for Tank Davis. Not a tune up fight, as others might think of it.
I was about to say this. It must suck for Frank Martin to stay undefeated and rise up the ranks only to be called as a tune up fight hehe. Let's see how he responds about those statements in the ring but I bet he must be fired up while working in the gym right now.

As the biggest name in the division, Tank could choose any of the elite champions in the division and it would be considered a superfight. He is choosing Frank Marin instead, who is a good fighter but clearly a step down from Shakur, Haney and Loma.

For Frank Martin, after blatantly ducking Shakur, this will be the first we see him tested on this level. He has beaten two undefeated fighters in his last 2 fights, as well as some solid veterans, however we still haven’t seen enough of him to know what his ceiling is. If he didn’t think he could beat Shakur, then how can he be ready for Tank? I think he knows he is expected to lose, but he is just being a good team player for PBC, who is using him as a viable name to build up Tank while protecting him from losing to the non-PBC fighters he continues to avoid.


Title: Re: Tank Davis Vs Frank Martin WBA Lightweight Title June 22 HoustonTexas
Post by: inthelongrun on April 15, 2024, 07:15:15 AM
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Fight is still very far we haven't seen the initial press or kick off press conference but this is going to be a big fight for Tank Davis. Not a tune up fight, as others might think of it.
I was about to say this. It must suck for Frank Martin to stay undefeated and rise up the ranks only to be called as a tune up fight hehe. Let's see how he responds about those statements in the ring but I bet he must be fired up while working in the gym right now.

As the biggest name in the division, Tank could choose any of the elite champions in the division and it would be considered a superfight. He is choosing Frank Marin instead, who is a good fighter but clearly a step down from Shakur, Haney and Loma.

For Frank Martin, after blatantly ducking Shakur, this will be the first we see him tested on this level. He has beaten two undefeated fighters in his last 2 fights, as well as some solid veterans, however we still haven’t seen enough of him to know what his ceiling is. If he didn’t think he could beat Shakur, then how can he be ready for Tank? I think he knows he is expected to lose, but he is just being a good team player for PBC, who is using him as a viable name to build up Tank while protecting him from losing to the non-PBC fighters he continues to avoid.

What do we expect from Al Haymon? While the biggest promotional rivals in the UK and in the US are now working together for the mega fights, PBC remained silent.

See how the poster is hyping casuals and the blind PBC fan boys by using the most garbage ranking in the sport. :D Anyways, this is probably the best match up inside PBC in this division. Frank got good skills but he is unproven. I used to think about him and Top Rank's hot prospect Keyshawn Davis fighting each other.

But this not worthy of a PPV event. Benavidez is fighting the returning and old Gvozdyk. Corrupt WBC once again wanting a share of their purse by making this an eliminator instead of forcing the mandate or stripping Canelo.


Title: Re: Tank Davis Vs Frank Martin WBA Lightweight Title June 22 HoustonTexas
Post by: coin-investor on April 15, 2024, 12:38:06 PM


As the biggest name in the division, Tank could choose any of the elite champions in the division and it would be considered a superfight. He is choosing Frank Marin instead, who is a good fighter but clearly a step down from Shakur, Haney and Loma.
He can do that but all these fighters are busy with their respective fight so this fight will be his build-up or conditioning fight to fight Haney, Loma or Shakur if they win in their respective fights his last fight will be one year and he needs to keep his body busy because he will be up to a great fight and Frank Martin is a worthy choice



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For Frank Martin, after blatantly ducking Shakur, this will be the first we see him tested on this level. He has beaten two undefeated fighters in his last 2 fights, as well as some solid veterans, however, we still haven’t seen enough of him to know what his ceiling is. If he didn’t think he could beat Shakur, then how can he be ready for Tank? I think he knows he is expected to lose, but he is just being a good team player for PBC, who is using him as a viable name to build up Tank while protecting him from losing to the non-PBC fighters he continues to avoid.
Frank Martin has potential and I don't think he likes being used as a fighter to build up another fighter, I'm sure he is training very hard, imagine if he upsets Tank there would be a disruption in the division and will catapult his name to a greater height, he can pull an upset if Tank relaxes and think s that Martin is just a build-up fighter.


Title: Re: Tank Davis Vs Frank Martin WBA Lightweight Title June 22 HoustonTexas
Post by: Viscore on April 15, 2024, 01:10:18 PM
It's supposedly Frank Martin vs Shakur Stevenson but it was called off. I think Martin is not ducking Shakur, but incentive wise, it was reported that he is going to make at least $1 million and could not be satisfied of that amount.

So for sure there are a lot of upside for him to go and fight a even more dangerous boxer in Tank Davis. They have history as said, sparring sessions that goes and there are reports that Martin hold his ground and give Tank Davis all he can eat. But for me, Martin is more of a volume puncher and he doesn't carry power to knock down Tank Davis and on the other hand, he could taste his first defeat here.
Then maybe he will be making better purse on this fight, and I think Shakur is a hard opponent to catch compared to Davis, and Martin probably understand that his style would fit on Tank Davis' style as well. This should be an exciting fight to watch, with Frank Martin being undefeated and has a decent KO rate, I think we will see a knockout here.

odds from here ; https://www.oddschecker.com/us/boxing-mma/boxing/gervonta-davis-v-frank-martin

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Gervonta Davis -550


Title: Re: Tank Davis Vs Frank Martin WBA Lightweight Title June 22 HoustonTexas
Post by: TravelMug on April 15, 2024, 08:46:52 PM
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Fight is still very far we haven't seen the initial press or kick off press conference but this is going to be a big fight for Tank Davis. Not a tune up fight, as others might think of it.
I was about to say this. It must suck for Frank Martin to stay undefeated and rise up the ranks only to be called as a tune up fight hehe. Let's see how he responds about those statements in the ring but I bet he must be fired up while working in the gym right now.

As the biggest name in the division, Tank could choose any of the elite champions in the division and it would be considered a superfight. He is choosing Frank Marin instead, who is a good fighter but clearly a step down from Shakur, Haney and Loma.

For Frank Martin, after blatantly ducking Shakur, this will be the first we see him tested on this level. He has beaten two undefeated fighters in his last 2 fights, as well as some solid veterans, however we still haven’t seen enough of him to know what his ceiling is. If he didn’t think he could beat Shakur, then how can he be ready for Tank? I think he knows he is expected to lose, but he is just being a good team player for PBC, who is using him as a viable name to build up Tank while protecting him from losing to the non-PBC fighters he continues to avoid.

And it doesn't make sense though for Frank Martin to duck Shakur for a good money, it's already exposure for him even if he lost as we will see how good he is. But his team back out on the last minute after a verbal agreement from Shakur's camp. It is the money? already good offer from Shakur if it's $1 million and again, other upside on the fight. Later on he will be fighting Tank for let's say the same amount of money? what gives? does he think that he can beat Tank and put him name a top, that Shakur will be the one chasing him? Nevertheless, we really don't know that reasoning, maybe it's that Frank Martin and his camp wanted to test themselves not spar, but a true boxing match and believed that they can upset and take that 0 from Gervonta Davis.


Title: Re: Tank Davis Vs Frank Martin WBA Lightweight Title June 22 HoustonTexas
Post by: FinneysTrueVision on April 16, 2024, 06:28:06 AM
He can do that but all these fighters are busy with their respective fight so this fight will be his build-up or conditioning fight to fight Haney, Loma or Shakur if they win in their respective fights his last fight will be one year and he needs to keep his body busy because he will be up to a great fight and Frank Martin is a worthy choice

Tank has been sitting around for an entire year. There was enough time to make one of those other big fights before there was any scheduling conflict. Shakur’s next opponent hasn’t been announced yet, so he would have been available.

I expect Tank’s next opponent after Frank Martin to be Pitbull Cruz. It’s an in-house fight for PBC and it’s another lower risk opponent for Tank.


Title: Re: Tank Davis Vs Frank Martin WBA Lightweight Title June 22 HoustonTexas
Post by: btc_angela on April 16, 2024, 12:25:56 PM
He can do that but all these fighters are busy with their respective fight so this fight will be his build-up or conditioning fight to fight Haney, Loma or Shakur if they win in their respective fights his last fight will be one year and he needs to keep his body busy because he will be up to a great fight and Frank Martin is a worthy choice

Tank has been sitting around for an entire year. There was enough time to make one of those other big fights before there was any scheduling conflict. Shakur’s next opponent hasn’t been announced yet, so he would have been available.

I expect Tank’s next opponent after Frank Martin to be Pitbull Cruz. It’s an in-house fight for PBC and it’s another lower risk opponent for Tank.

Tank should really take the risk and fight Shakur or Loma or any other name fighter at 135 lbs and should be hiding on the reasoning that he doesn't want to lose his 0. His been well protected already by PBC.

And it will be an easy road for him to become a champion at 140 lbs if he will take Pitbull Cruz again. He hurt his hands on that first fight, but regardless though, another clear cut path for a belt at 140 lbs for him. And maybe after that, he could be in the mix against Haney and Teo Lopez.


Title: Re: Tank Davis Vs Frank Martin WBA Lightweight Title June 22 HoustonTexas
Post by: yazher on April 16, 2024, 12:49:16 PM

Tank should really take the risk and fight Shakur or Loma or any other name fighter at 135 lbs and should be hiding on the reasoning that he doesn't want to lose his 0. His been well protected already by PBC.


They just obviously giving him more comfort after winning a big fight against Garcia and to be honest, they really need to do that since he can't find some worthy opponent that won't have much risk nowadays because all of the top boxers in their weight division are threats in his clean record. They actually and carefully pick his next opponent so that he won't have a hard time increasing his wins and at the same time keeping his popularity at the peak of his career right now.


Title: Re: Tank Davis Vs Frank Martin WBA Lightweight Title June 22 HoustonTexas
Post by: aioc on April 16, 2024, 01:49:56 PM

Tank should really take the risk and fight Shakur or Loma or any other name fighter at 135 lbs and should be hiding on the reasoning that he doesn't want to lose his 0. His been well protected already by PBC.


They just obviously giving him more comfort after winning a big fight against Garcia and to be honest, they really need to do that since he can't find some worthy opponent that won't have much risk nowadays because all of the top boxers in their weight division are threats in his clean record. They actually and carefully pick his next opponent so that he won't have a hard time increasing his wins and at the same time keeping his popularity at the peak of his career right now.

His promoters and managers need to do this so they will have good bargaining in case they negotiate for bigger names they will eventually face big names in boxing like Subriel Matias or Devin Haney, you cannot be a great champion in a division if there are tough fighters in that division that people will think can beat you so I guess after his match against Frank Martin negotiation for big names in boxing will come after this fight.
Provided that Martin does not upset Tank.


Title: Re: Tank Davis Vs Frank Martin WBA Lightweight Title June 22 HoustonTexas
Post by: Sanitough on April 16, 2024, 02:09:52 PM

Tank should really take the risk and fight Shakur or Loma or any other name fighter at 135 lbs and should be hiding on the reasoning that he doesn't want to lose his 0. His been well protected already by PBC.


They just obviously giving him more comfort after winning a big fight against Garcia and to be honest, they really need to do that since he can't find some worthy opponent that won't have much risk nowadays because all of the top boxers in their weight division are threats in his clean record. They actually and carefully pick his next opponent so that he won't have a hard time increasing his wins and at the same time keeping his popularity at the peak of his career right now.

His promoters and managers need to do this so they will have good bargaining in case they negotiate for bigger names they will eventually face big names in boxing like Subriel Matias or Devin Haney, you cannot be a great champion in a division if there are tough fighters in that division that people will think can beat you so I guess after his match against Frank Martin negotiation for big names in boxing will come after this fight.
Provided that Martin does not upset Tank.

Let's wait for the outcome of the fight but most likely Tank Davis will again win via knockout. Tank can't fight Haney or Shakur as I'm sure he will struggle against these two boxers whose hard to catch, they'll not change their style despite of the criticism, it doesn't matter if they look boring as long as they can use their speed as the edge to win the fight, with that said, the undefeated record of Tank might be at high risk.


Title: Re: Tank Davis Vs Frank Martin WBA Lightweight Title June 22 HoustonTexas
Post by: robelneo on April 16, 2024, 02:39:45 PM


Let's wait for the outcome of the fight but most likely Tank Davis will again win via knockout. Tank can't fight Haney or Shakur as I'm sure he will struggle against these two boxers whose hard to catch, they'll not change their style despite of the criticism, it doesn't matter if they look boring as long as they can use their speed as the edge to win the fight, with that said, the undefeated record of Tank might be at high risk.

Very good for boxers but very tough for the boxing community, boxing fans want to see the best fight for the best just like they did in the '80s and the '90s where fighters fought for legacy not just for money which is why they are revered until now.
In this new generation, only Pacquiao did not duck he fought for the people and legacy, the younger generations should do the same, so that future generations will look up to them.


Title: Re: Tank Davis Vs Frank Martin WBA Lightweight Title June 22 HoustonTexas
Post by: Shamm on April 16, 2024, 02:59:19 PM
We don't know what's the outcome of this fight but we can predict what will happen in the fight once we gonna make a good research on both sides. Actually they have the same things they are both undefeated and good fighter inside the ring. And also we are all know that they got a title which is they are recognize in some countries. But for me in this fight maybe tank David can do a good shot that can win against his opponent not in knockout but maybe by unanimous decision. But I think frank martin won't let that happen so this is a good fight to watch.


Title: Re: Tank Davis Vs Frank Martin WBA Lightweight Title June 22 HoustonTexas
Post by: Kemarit on April 17, 2024, 10:28:58 PM

Tank should really take the risk and fight Shakur or Loma or any other name fighter at 135 lbs and should be hiding on the reasoning that he doesn't want to lose his 0. His been well protected already by PBC.


They just obviously giving him more comfort after winning a big fight against Garcia and to be honest, they really need to do that since he can't find some worthy opponent that won't have much risk nowadays because all of the top boxers in their weight division are threats in his clean record. They actually and carefully pick his next opponent so that he won't have a hard time increasing his wins and at the same time keeping his popularity at the peak of his career right now.

As mentioned, Shakur Stevenson or Loma is a good fight for Tank Davis. If he is looking for a good dance partner then that 2 boxers is good for him. But PBC doesn't want to negotiate with them. We haven't heard Davis calling this two fighters for all we know.

So there is no way that they will ignore or continue to cherry pick fighters for Tank. He has been protected for so long already. They need to set him up out of his comfort zone and see the best version of him. Otherwise he will be stuck in this loop and could be wasting the best time of his boxing career by not fighting the best in his division or even afraid to go to 140 lbs because competitions are hard.


Title: Re: Tank Davis Vs Frank Martin WBA Lightweight Title June 22 HoustonTexas
Post by: Darker45 on April 18, 2024, 01:40:23 AM
I watched the highlights of Martin's fights. He looks like a confident fighter. This might be a weakness against the great counterpunching skills of Gervonta. And although Martin has punching power, it seems Tank is a lot more powerful.

The last couple fights of Martin are only unanimous decisions, although props to him just the same because those were against undefeated fighters. But they aren't really as dangerous as Tank. And then there's also that almost one year of inactivity for Martin. That's a disadvantage especially because he'll be facing Tank right away. He should have just accepted that match against Shakur.

The betting odds look fair to me despite Martin's 5.40 notwithstanding his undefeated record.


Title: Re: Tank Davis Vs Frank Martin WBA Lightweight Title June 22 HoustonTexas
Post by: coin-investor on April 18, 2024, 03:40:33 PM
I watched the highlights of Martin's fights. He looks like a confident fighter. This might be a weakness against the great counterpunching skills of Gervonta. And although Martin has punching power, it seems Tank is a lot more powerful.
It's already given but when interviewed on who Martin thinks is the most powerful he has sparred he did not mention Tank, he mentioned an unknown guy, it's an insult for Tank so Martin will know who hit harder when he faces Tank in the ring.

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The last couple fights of Martin are only unanimous decisions, although props to him just the same because those were against undefeated fighters. But they aren't really as dangerous as Tank. And then there's also that almost one year of inactivity for Martin. That's a disadvantage especially because he'll be facing Tank right away. He should have just accepted that match against Shakur.
This is a very good tune fight for Tank an undefeated guy with a good record and for Martin, this is a big challenge, I don't rule an upset because upset can happen to anyone who has power in his hands, this fight is not appealing to boxing fans but it has the promise to become an action-packed fight, every Tank fight is exciting as long as his opponent is willing to slug it out.


Title: Re: Tank Davis Vs Frank Martin WBA Lightweight Title June 22 HoustonTexas
Post by: Yatsan on April 18, 2024, 05:17:40 PM
Not gonna lie but even if Frank is a tough opponent, I guess I would go with Tank on this match up; experience, better knockout artist, absolute power puncher, and agility of course. Anything could still happen indeed but we're talking about subjective opinion and mine this time would be Tank, as I said. Tank grew so fast on his career and what made me think of such way was his fight with Ryan. He's an intelligent boxer and all of his opponents will be having a hard time against him especially at this point that he continues his heavy training on his team. Would be for sure exciting to watch. For me, Martin is still too young to go toe to toe with Tank. He needs to grow more and to polish his skills before he get to Tank's level.

We don't know what's the outcome of this fight but we can predict what will happen in the fight once we gonna make a good research on both sides. Actually they have the same things they are both undefeated and good fighter inside the ring. And also we are all know that they got a title which is they are recognize in some countries. But for me in this fight maybe tank David can do a good shot that can win against his opponent not in knockout but maybe by unanimous decision. But I think frank martin won't let that happen so this is a good fight to watch.
I believe this would be ending with a K.O. Both are aggressive in the first place once they get their phasing.Both of their undefeated records are on the line which adds thrill watching and choosing the right fighter to bet in.


Title: Re: Tank Davis Vs Frank Martin WBA Lightweight Title June 22 HoustonTexas
Post by: Baofeng on April 18, 2024, 08:25:03 PM
I watched the highlights of Martin's fights. He looks like a confident fighter. This might be a weakness against the great counterpunching skills of Gervonta. And although Martin has punching power, it seems Tank is a lot more powerful.

The last couple fights of Martin are only unanimous decisions, although props to him just the same because those were against undefeated fighters. But they aren't really as dangerous as Tank. And then there's also that almost one year of inactivity for Martin. That's a disadvantage especially because he'll be facing Tank right away. He should have just accepted that match against Shakur.

The betting odds look fair to me despite Martin's 5.40 notwithstanding his undefeated record.

Yes, Martin has some good pops in his hands, but I don't think that is enough to rattle Davis here. Gervonta's counterpunching is underrated though, but that's how he defeated most of his opponents as he telegraph their move and then throw that left hook or uppercut.

Martin strength is his volumes but I don't think that is enough to put Tank in a disadvantage position. Martin might look a huge underdog in this fight, but because of Tank's power I would also says that it is fair with that underdog odds for Martin.


Title: Re: Tank Davis Vs Frank Martin WBA Lightweight Title June 22 HoustonTexas
Post by: Kemarit on April 21, 2024, 01:30:44 AM
Not gonna lie but even if Frank is a tough opponent, I guess I would go with Tank on this match up; experience, better knockout artist, absolute power puncher, and agility of course. Anything could still happen indeed but we're talking about subjective opinion and mine this time would be Tank, as I said. Tank grew so fast on his career and what made me think of such way was his fight with Ryan. He's an intelligent boxer and all of his opponents will be having a hard time against him especially at this point that he continues his heavy training on his team. Would be for sure exciting to watch. For me, Martin is still too young to go toe to toe with Tank. He needs to grow more and to polish his skills before he get to Tank's level.

We don't know what's the outcome of this fight but we can predict what will happen in the fight once we gonna make a good research on both sides. Actually they have the same things they are both undefeated and good fighter inside the ring. And also we are all know that they got a title which is they are recognize in some countries. But for me in this fight maybe tank David can do a good shot that can win against his opponent not in knockout but maybe by unanimous decision. But I think frank martin won't let that happen so this is a good fight to watch.
I believe this would be ending with a K.O. Both are aggressive in the first place once they get their phasing.Both of their undefeated records are on the line which adds thrill watching and choosing the right fighter to bet in.

If two aggressive boxers face off in the ring, sooner or later someone will going to kiss the canvass. And as you have said, Frank is tough, no doubt about it, looks technically sound and very confident against Tank Davis.

But Tank has all the tools and advantage, the power is crazy and scary and it seems that this is the best weight class for him as his body can still squeeze that 135 lbs of pure muscle. Unlike what we have seen in Ryan not making the wight at 140 lbs. Anyhow, Benavidez vs Gvozdyk will be the main card in this fight and probably this tickets are going to sell and I wouldn't be surprised if it's sold out and PPV numbers is very high.


Title: Re: Tank Davis Vs Frank Martin WBA Lightweight Title June 22 HoustonTexas
Post by: Baofeng on May 04, 2024, 09:56:00 PM
Initial kick off press conference,

https://img.youtube.com/vi/65StaucNOxI/0.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65StaucNOxI)

Although there is some issues on the audio on the latter part of the video.

But still you can see that both are animated during the face-off. So there is obviously animosity between the two and so this is going to be a great fight.



Title: Re: Tank Davis Vs Frank Martin WBA Lightweight Title June 22 HoustonTexas
Post by: robelneo on May 04, 2024, 10:23:53 PM
Initial kick off press conference,
Although there is some issues on the audio on the latter part of the video.

But still you can see that both are animated during the face-off. So there is obviously animosity between the two and so this is going to be a great fight.



Tank is being Tank while it seems Frank Martin is not really in this kind of thrash talk, Tank keeps crashing when Frank is talking so this starts the heat between them that will carry on for the duration of the promotion of the fight.
It has something to do with Frank Martin's interview about their sparring, Matin needs to establish himself Tank will try to bully him in the course of the promotion, unfortunately, he is not like Romero or Ryan Garcia who loves to talk thrash Frank is a straightforward guy so its going to be excited heading to the fight night.


Title: Re: Tank Davis Vs Frank Martin WBA Lightweight Title June 22 HoustonTexas
Post by: btc_angela on May 10, 2024, 02:12:24 PM
Initial kick off press conference,
Although there is some issues on the audio on the latter part of the video.

But still you can see that both are animated during the face-off. So there is obviously animosity between the two and so this is going to be a great fight.



Tank is being Tank while it seems Frank Martin is not really in this kind of thrash talk, Tank keeps crashing when Frank is talking so this starts the heat between them that will carry on for the duration of the promotion of the fight.
It has something to do with Frank Martin's interview about their sparring, Matin needs to establish himself Tank will try to bully him in the course of the promotion, unfortunately, he is not like Romero or Ryan Garcia who loves to talk thrash Frank is a straightforward guy so its going to be excited heading to the fight night.

Frank Martin also trash talk, but not the kind that we have seen with the likes of Tank Davis. So he just stand on his ground and just answer what Tank throws as him. They have history already but it is just sparring session.

But not this is very different, but not sure if Frank Martin is ready on what Tank is going to throw as him. Tank's power and then this ability to also adjust in the game. Martin could be technical but I do think that Tank is far more superior in terms of the tools and we might see Martin getting knock out here.


Title: Re: Tank Davis Vs Frank Martin WBA Lightweight Title June 22 HoustonTexas
Post by: coin-investor on May 10, 2024, 03:31:00 PM


But not this is very different, but not sure if Frank Martin is ready on what Tank is going to throw as him. Tank's power and then this ability to also adjust in the game. Martin could be technical but I do think that Tank is far more superior in terms of the tools and we might see Martin getting knock out here.

I have seen some of Frank Martin's fights, and he is good compared to Romero, and he has good movement in the ring, the only fighter who posed a big challenge on Tank was Pitbull Cruz, but based on what I see now it looks like Martin can give Tank a tough fight, he is not intimidated just look on their face off he did not even blink or back up when Tank confronts him, he is not afraid of Tank's antics in the ring which is good so we are going to expect a good fight ahead.
But expect a lot of thrash talks. It started with a sparring. They will end it in a real fight in the ring.


Title: Re: Tank Davis Vs Frank Martin WBA Lightweight Title June 22 HoustonTexas
Post by: Baofeng on May 10, 2024, 08:40:43 PM


But not this is very different, but not sure if Frank Martin is ready on what Tank is going to throw as him. Tank's power and then this ability to also adjust in the game. Martin could be technical but I do think that Tank is far more superior in terms of the tools and we might see Martin getting knock out here.

I have seen some of Frank Martin's fights, and he is good compared to Romero, and he has good movement in the ring, the only fighter who posed a big challenge on Tank was Pitbull Cruz, but based on what I see now it looks like Martin can give Tank a tough fight, he is not intimidated just look on their face off he did not even blink or back up when Tank confronts him, he is not afraid of Tank's antics in the ring which is good so we are going to expect a good fight ahead.
But expect a lot of thrash talks. It started with a sparring. They will end it in a real fight in the ring.

I agree, Pitbull was a tough customer for Tank Davis and I think that's the fight that Davis was hit a lot of times in the face, but he shows that he has a good chin as well and was able to eat all that power and then win, although he had injured his hands.

But Martin is a different kind of fighters, sparring should be keep secret though, in my opinion and it should not be used as gauge. But this era is very different, many videos are very leaked by some outside source and then used to hype any fight right now.


Title: Re: Tank Davis Vs Frank Martin WBA Lightweight Title June 22 HoustonTexas
Post by: TravelMug on May 11, 2024, 06:25:42 AM


But not this is very different, but not sure if Frank Martin is ready on what Tank is going to throw as him. Tank's power and then this ability to also adjust in the game. Martin could be technical but I do think that Tank is far more superior in terms of the tools and we might see Martin getting knock out here.

I have seen some of Frank Martin's fights, and he is good compared to Romero, and he has good movement in the ring, the only fighter who posed a big challenge on Tank was Pitbull Cruz, but based on what I see now it looks like Martin can give Tank a tough fight, he is not intimidated just look on their face off he did not even blink or back up when Tank confronts him, he is not afraid of Tank's antics in the ring which is good so we are going to expect a good fight ahead.
But expect a lot of thrash talks. It started with a sparring. They will end it in a real fight in the ring.

Yes, Frank Martin is way better that Rolly Romero if we watch how this two fights. Romero is not that technically adept like Frank Martin. But I think Romero has more power though that Frank Martin. But I don't see Tank backing down from any of his fights, not Romero and obviously not to Frank Martin as he is full of confidence that he will win. And so the boxing fans are, we haven't seen any blue print on how to beat Tank Davis so far, he has not been in any danger in any of his fights like being knock down or something. In the Cruz fight, he just started slow and Cruz was able to take advantage. However, it's a game of chess and Tank was able to read Cruz's movement and caught him time and time again for a decision win.


Title: Re: Tank Davis Vs Frank Martin WBA Lightweight Title June 22 HoustonTexas
Post by: btc_angela on May 11, 2024, 03:28:02 PM


But not this is very different, but not sure if Frank Martin is ready on what Tank is going to throw as him. Tank's power and then this ability to also adjust in the game. Martin could be technical but I do think that Tank is far more superior in terms of the tools and we might see Martin getting knock out here.

I have seen some of Frank Martin's fights, and he is good compared to Romero, and he has good movement in the ring, the only fighter who posed a big challenge on Tank was Pitbull Cruz, but based on what I see now it looks like Martin can give Tank a tough fight, he is not intimidated just look on their face off he did not even blink or back up when Tank confronts him, he is not afraid of Tank's antics in the ring which is good so we are going to expect a good fight ahead.
But expect a lot of thrash talks. It started with a sparring. They will end it in a real fight in the ring.

Pitbull though was a big threat because Tank Davis was injured and probably that's why it seems the Pitbull Cruz is doing great against the Tank Davis. But given if Davis hands is not injured in the fight, it could be end differently and Tank might win by a knockout i reckon.

And as I have said, Martin is good and has the technical abilities and that's why this fight is really intriguing in the beginning. But if we look at Tank's opponents as compare to Martin, the quality is far better that's why I think that Davis will show his best version and could steal a knockout win.


Title: Re: Tank Davis Vs Frank Martin WBA Lightweight Title June 22 HoustonTexas
Post by: coin-investor on May 11, 2024, 03:54:19 PM


But not this is very different, but not sure if Frank Martin is ready on what Tank is going to throw as him. Tank's power and then this ability to also adjust in the game. Martin could be technical but I do think that Tank is far more superior in terms of the tools and we might see Martin getting knock out here.

I have seen some of Frank Martin's fights, and he is good compared to Romero, and he has good movement in the ring, the only fighter who posed a big challenge on Tank was Pitbull Cruz, but based on what I see now it looks like Martin can give Tank a tough fight, he is not intimidated just look on their face off he did not even blink or back up when Tank confronts him, he is not afraid of Tank's antics in the ring which is good so we are going to expect a good fight ahead.
But expect a lot of thrash talks. It started with a sparring. They will end it in a real fight in the ring.

Pitbull though was a big threat because Tank Davis was injured and probably that's why it seems the Pitbull Cruz is doing great against the Tank Davis. But given if Davis hands is not injured in the fight, it could be end differently and Tank might win by a knockout i reckon.

And as I have said, Martin is good and has the technical abilities and that's why this fight is really intriguing in the beginning. But if we look at Tank's opponents as compare to Martin, the quality is far better that's why I think that Davis will show his best version and could steal a knockout win.
I agree with what you've said. The quality of the past opponents is one of the big factors why Davis is a huge favorite, but I also mentioned he is better than Romero, and he is fully aware of Romero's mistakes that led him to get knocked out; with that, I can say that Frank will give Tank a very challenging fight because he mentioned that he had done a sparring session against Tank and he is fully aware of his power.

I still have Tank as a favorite here, but I will not rule out an upset because Martin can do that if given an opportunity to have the fight his way; I feel that this fight will turn personal for both fighters, the way they dislike each other.


Title: Re: Tank Davis Vs Frank Martin WBA Lightweight Title June 22 HoustonTexas
Post by: bbc.reporter on May 17, 2024, 02:50:10 AM
The thread was created on April 6, however, this is only 2 pages hehehe. This scammer Tank has not much fans. This implies that it was Ryan Garcia that brought more than 80% of the fans to watch his fight vs. Tank. I reckon if Tank does not begin showing knockouts before round 5, he might begin losing his fans. This is only my speculation, everyone can argue and disagree but the number of pages of this thread proves what I said heheheh.


Title: Re: Tank Davis Vs Frank Martin WBA Lightweight Title June 22 HoustonTexas
Post by: FinneysTrueVision on May 17, 2024, 04:13:02 AM
The disgustingly corrupt WBA tried to sneak in a rehydration clause so they could handicap Frank Martin. It seems after the backlash they received they reversed their decision. Not only did they hand a title to Tank via email, but they were also trying to give him more of an advantage against an already overmatched opponent.

The thread was created on April 6, however, this is only 2 pages hehehe. This scammer Tank has not much fans. This implies that it was Ryan Garcia that brought more than 80% of the fans to watch his fight vs. Tank. I reckon if Tank does not begin showing knockouts before round 5, he might begin losing his fans. This is only my speculation, everyone can argue and disagree but the number of pages of this thread proves what I said heheheh.

Tank has always been really popular with the hip hop community, who have almost a cult like admiration for him. He won’t lose support regardless of how much of a fraud his career is, but I also don’t see him becoming more of a mainstream attraction.


Title: Re: Tank Davis Vs Frank Martin WBA Lightweight Title June 22 HoustonTexas
Post by: Yaunfitda on May 17, 2024, 06:17:21 AM
The thread was created on April 6, however, this is only 2 pages hehehe. This scammer Tank has not much fans. This implies that it was Ryan Garcia that brought more than 80% of the fans to watch his fight vs. Tank. I reckon if Tank does not begin showing knockouts before round 5, he might begin losing his fans. This is only my speculation, everyone can argue and disagree but the number of pages of this thread proves what I said heheheh.
It might be because of his dance partner, admit it or not, Martin is not yet a household name. He could be when he was supposedly facing Shakur but he back down and maybe this is one reason why fans are not into him right now. I think it's 50/50 during Tank's fight with Ryan Garcia though, he can bring fans to the arena and watch PPV as Tank is also popular. And with that, it's going to be interesting not just the fight, but how the numbers will turn out to be in terms of PPV and live gates. Not sure if it can even peak at 100k PPV, in my opinion.


Title: Re: Tank Davis Vs Frank Martin WBA Lightweight Title June 22 HoustonTexas
Post by: Viscore on May 17, 2024, 07:29:49 AM
He won’t lose support regardless of how much of a fraud his career is, but I also don’t see him becoming more of a mainstream attraction.

He had his biggest paycheck when he fought Ryan, so he need to choose his opponent, someone who is popular so he'll benefit from that. And there's been a lot of fighters that are interested in him, I guess he'll choose his fight carefully but not to the point that he'll cherry pick to get an easy win. After the Ryan fight, I expect him to carry that momentum for another big one, but turns out he ended up protect his belt.

Anyway, I think Martin is also a good opponent,  though lack of experience but this could be a good test for Davis before getting into the big one.

As per rumor, we have the names of Lomachenko and Stevenson being link to Davis for a possible unification fight, hopefully will happen.


Title: Re: Tank Davis Vs Frank Martin WBA Lightweight Title June 22 HoustonTexas
Post by: Baofeng on May 17, 2024, 10:35:03 AM
The thread was created on April 6, however, this is only 2 pages hehehe. This scammer Tank has not much fans. This implies that it was Ryan Garcia that brought more than 80% of the fans to watch his fight vs. Tank. I reckon if Tank does not begin showing knockouts before round 5, he might begin losing his fans. This is only my speculation, everyone can argue and disagree but the number of pages of this thread proves what I said heheheh.

Let's give the fans some time to digest this fight, we still have months to go so maybe fans are not yet into this fight and then we still have the unification fight in heavyweight this week so we have our hands full in the coming weeks before this fight sinks in.

Of course we all know how Ryan promotes every of his fights. But I do agree that this might not be a bigger PPV in numbers are compare to Ryan vs Devin or Ryan vs Tank. Frank Martin doesn't have that name yet, he is still a upcoming fighter in this division lots of promises but I think Tank will take care of him.


Title: Re: Tank Davis Vs Frank Martin WBA Lightweight Title June 22 HoustonTexas
Post by: yazher on May 17, 2024, 11:00:57 AM
I was about to say this. It must suck for Frank Martin to stay undefeated and rise up the ranks only to be called as a tune up fight hehe. Let's see how he responds about those statements in the ring but I bet he must be fired up while working in the gym right now.

Well, underdogs must exert all effort in their training to give their best inside the ring and when they lose, they still win since they give their best at that time this is a good opportunity for him to steal the show since everyone thinks he ain't capable of giving Davis a hard time in this fight. He just needs to focus on his training and have high aspirations for this fight because that should be how the mindsets of underdogs especially when there is no one out there believes them, should motivate themselves and make firm decisions to improve and beat their opponent at all cost inside the ring.


Title: Re: Tank Davis Vs Frank Martin WBA Lightweight Title June 22 HoustonTexas
Post by: kotajikikox on May 17, 2024, 11:19:08 AM
The thread was created on April 6, however, this is only 2 pages hehehe. This scammer Tank has not much fans. This implies that it was Ryan Garcia that brought more than 80% of the fans to watch his fight vs. Tank. I reckon if Tank does not begin showing knockouts before round 5, he might begin losing his fans. This is only my speculation, everyone can argue and disagree but the number of pages of this thread proves what I said heheheh.
This is what we expect if fans is not that interested in the coming fight as we can consider now that boxing fans is starting to lose their interest instead they are turning into other sports because of issues coming from this sport being corrupt and yeah there are some  interesting boxer now but  not as famous as how those famous boxers brings in the past.


Title: Re: Tank Davis Vs Frank Martin WBA Lightweight Title June 22 HoustonTexas
Post by: Natalim on May 17, 2024, 11:42:36 AM
The thread was created on April 6, however, this is only 2 pages hehehe. This scammer Tank has not much fans. This implies that it was Ryan Garcia that brought more than 80% of the fans to watch his fight vs. Tank. I reckon if Tank does not begin showing knockouts before round 5, he might begin losing his fans. This is only my speculation, everyone can argue and disagree but the number of pages of this thread proves what I said heheheh.
This is what we expect if fans is not that interested in the coming fight as we can consider now that boxing fans is starting to lose their interest instead they are turning into other sports because of issues coming from this sport being corrupt and yeah there are some  interesting boxer now but  not as famous as how those famous boxers brings in the past.
Forget about that, fans would easily change how they feel, they might hate a boxer but they still watch it. For example, before we knew Mayweather has a lot of haters but yet we are still watching his fight, in fact, he made a lot of money during his fight with Pacman, and Connor. As they sad, bad publicity is still a publicity, so if we continue talkinga about him, that means we are still interested in him.


Title: Re: Tank Davis Vs Frank Martin WBA Lightweight Title June 22 HoustonTexas
Post by: coin-investor on May 17, 2024, 03:25:03 PM
This just comes out and its been on major boxing news channels,  WBA adds then takes out the rehydration clause for the coming Tank Davis - Frank Martin

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This would have been a departure from the IBF rules, which include a 10-pound rehydration clause. Gilberto Mendoza, WBA President, made the suggestion based on ‘recent events,’ hinting that it could be done to prevent fighters from coming in much bigger. Devin Haney rehydrated to 165 pounds after hitting the 140 limit for his fight with Regis Prograis.

Since there is no rehydration clause, both fighters can get into the ring much bigger than their weigh-in weight and could use this as an advantage over the other fighter. Haney did this against Prograis when he rehydrated to 165 after hitting 140, and Ryan Garcia returned the favor against Haney.

Since there is no rehydration clause anymore, we will see in the actual fight who rehydrated and used it to his advantage; for me Frank Martin will use this and rehydrate and add a lot of weights since Tank has been known to use his speed on many of his fights.



Title: Re: Tank Davis Vs Frank Martin WBA Lightweight Title June 22 HoustonTexas
Post by: btc_angela on May 17, 2024, 07:44:41 PM
^^ I don't know who to believed in this one though, as it was also reported that, WBA Mandates 12-Pound Rehydration Clause For Davis Vs. Martin, Sparking Confusion[url]

 (https://www.boxingnews24.com/2024/05/wba-mandates-12-pound-rehydration-clause-for-davis-vs-martin-sparking-confusion//)
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WBA president Gilberto Mendoza told Chris Mannix on X that his organization made the decision to have a 12-round rehydration clause for the Davis-Martin fight “based on recent events.” However, Mendoza didn’t say if the New rule would be in play for all WBA fights sanctioned by the organization. The New WBA rule caught Tank Davis (29-0, 27 KOs) by surprise because he didn’t know about it until yesterday. Fans on social media are calling it the ‘Tank rule,’ believing he’s behind it to ensure that his opponents are drained enough for him to win. Tank also has to abide by the 12-pound rehydration rule, so it’s not like it’s something that only applies to his opponents.

And with that, let's see, this is really controversial and this could be the start of maybe all governing bodies now might implement this rehydration clause. And we all know who started all of this being added to the contract so take advantage of his opponents. But now it seems both fighters will have to follow it now so that if in any case, both could be weight drain in the fight.


Title: Re: Tank Davis Vs Frank Martin WBA Lightweight Title June 22 HoustonTexas
Post by: coin-investor on May 18, 2024, 01:11:29 PM
^^ I don't know who to believed in this one though, as it was also reported that, WBA Mandates 12-Pound Rehydration Clause For Davis Vs. Martin, Sparking Confusion[url]

 (https://www.boxingnews24.com/2024/05/wba-mandates-12-pound-rehydration-clause-for-davis-vs-martin-sparking-confusion//)
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WBA president Gilberto Mendoza told Chris Mannix on X that his organization made the decision to have a 12-round rehydration clause for the Davis-Martin fight “based on recent events.” However, Mendoza didn’t say if the New rule would be in play for all WBA fights sanctioned by the organization. The New WBA rule caught Tank Davis (29-0, 27 KOs) by surprise because he didn’t know about it until yesterday. Fans on social media are calling it the ‘Tank rule,’ believing he’s behind it to ensure that his opponents are drained enough for him to win. Tank also has to abide by the 12-pound rehydration rule, so it’s not like it’s something that only applies to his opponents.

And with that, let's see, this is really controversial and this could be the start of maybe all governing bodies now might implement this rehydration clause. And we all know who started all of this being added to the contract so take advantage of his opponents. But now it seems both fighters will have to follow it now so that if in any case, both could be weight drain in the fight.

The boxing governing bodies should have one rule about this rehydration clause and see what's best for the fighters. Still, for me, there should be no rehydration clause and allow the fighters to be at their best in the fight, so there will be no alibi about the weight if the other fighter loses the fight., for me, there should be no rehydration clause and allow the fighters to be at their best in the fight, so there will be no alibi about the weight if the other fighter loses the fight.

Ryan Garcia keeps blaming the rehydration clause on why he lost the fight; it's hard to see fighters struggling in the ring at the time of the fight because of the rehydration clause, so for me, it's better to do away with it.
Of course, this is only my opinion; some fighters want to take advantage of their opponents even before the fight starts.


Title: Re: Tank Davis Vs Frank Martin WBA Lightweight Title June 22 HoustonTexas
Post by: btc_angela on May 18, 2024, 01:26:59 PM
^^ I don't know who to believed in this one though, as it was also reported that, WBA Mandates 12-Pound Rehydration Clause For Davis Vs. Martin, Sparking Confusion[url]

 (https://www.boxingnews24.com/2024/05/wba-mandates-12-pound-rehydration-clause-for-davis-vs-martin-sparking-confusion//)
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WBA president Gilberto Mendoza told Chris Mannix on X that his organization made the decision to have a 12-round rehydration clause for the Davis-Martin fight “based on recent events.” However, Mendoza didn’t say if the New rule would be in play for all WBA fights sanctioned by the organization. The New WBA rule caught Tank Davis (29-0, 27 KOs) by surprise because he didn’t know about it until yesterday. Fans on social media are calling it the ‘Tank rule,’ believing he’s behind it to ensure that his opponents are drained enough for him to win. Tank also has to abide by the 12-pound rehydration rule, so it’s not like it’s something that only applies to his opponents.

And with that, let's see, this is really controversial and this could be the start of maybe all governing bodies now might implement this rehydration clause. And we all know who started all of this being added to the contract so take advantage of his opponents. But now it seems both fighters will have to follow it now so that if in any case, both could be weight drain in the fight.

The boxing governing bodies should have one rule about this rehydration clause and see what's best for the fighters. Still, for me, there should be no rehydration clause and allow the fighters to be at their best in the fight, so there will be no alibi about the weight if the other fighter loses the fight., for me, there should be no rehydration clause and allow the fighters to be at their best in the fight, so there will be no alibi about the weight if the other fighter loses the fight.

Ryan Garcia keeps blaming the rehydration clause on why he lost the fight; it's hard to see fighters struggling in the ring at the time of the fight because of the rehydration clause, so for me, it's better to do away with it.
Of course, this is only my opinion; some fighters want to take advantage of their opponents even before the fight starts.

I would agree with your point of view, me as well I don't want to have this rehydration clause but it seems that it's now on the spotlight and again it should be noted that this could have been used by other boxers as well to be in included in their contract and it was just magnified by Ryan Garcia when he lost to Tank Davis.

On the other hand, that's why we have weight classes. I mean boxers should stay within that weight limit because going to let's say rehydrate to 147 lbs or even higher in a fight night when you are a lightweight at 135 lbs, you could have fair advantage at fight night because you will be the bigger fighter and not fighting in your weight class.


Title: Re: Tank Davis Vs Frank Martin WBA Lightweight Title June 22 HoustonTexas
Post by: coin-investor on May 19, 2024, 09:31:37 PM




I would agree with your point of view, me as well I don't want to have this rehydration clause but it seems that it's now on the spotlight and again it should be noted that this could have been used by other boxers as well to be in included in their contract and it was just magnified by Ryan Garcia when he lost to Tank Davis.

On the other hand, that's why we have weight classes. I mean boxers should stay within that weight limit because going to let's say rehydrate to 147 lbs or even higher in a fight night when you are a lightweight at 135 lbs, you could have fair advantage at fight night because you will be the bigger fighter and not fighting in your weight class.

This issue was not touched until now or when Ryan Garcia lost to Ryan Garcia because of this clause in the past boxers could rehydrate after their weight in, in the past I have seen boxers like Pacquiao eating Filipino dishes and a lot of rice so he can regain his power and fluid he losses before the weigh-in.

I have seen boxers struggling to make the weight, and they looked so thin that if the fight is held an hour before the weigh-in, I don't think they can last a round because of their weakness. They are so drained that in the contract, they added a hydration clause to a certain amount of weight.

In the past, when weigh-ins were done on the same day of the fight, now they are allowed 30 hours to rehydrate a significant amount of weight to regain their power or add more on fight night.


Title: Re: Tank Davis Vs Frank Martin WBA Lightweight Title June 22 HoustonTexas
Post by: inthelongrun on May 21, 2024, 06:18:56 AM
There were plenty of upsets happening lately, Denys Berinchyk won the WBO belt at 135 against 3 division world champion Emanuel Navarette. Joe Cordina lost his belt, Giovanni Santillan also losing his interim belt and avoided heavyweight technician Frank Sanchez was stopped. So I am also hoping Frank Martin to pull an upset here and steal that WBA email belt. I find Tank an explosive and exciting fighter but he is cherry picking for many years and is a coward to fight against the other champions for many years so Frank Martin winning is better for the sport. We want to see another undisputed champ in this division soon.


Title: Re: Tank Davis Vs Frank Martin WBA Lightweight Title June 22 HoustonTexas
Post by: Kemarit on May 21, 2024, 08:28:47 PM
There were plenty of upsets happening lately, Denys Berinchyk won the WBO belt at 135 against 3 division world champion Emanuel Navarette. Joe Cordina lost his belt, Giovanni Santillan also losing his interim belt and avoided heavyweight technician Frank Sanchez was stopped. So I am also hoping Frank Martin to pull an upset here and steal that WBA email belt. I find Tank an explosive and exciting fighter but he is cherry picking for many years and is a coward to fight against the other champions for many years so Frank Martin winning is better for the sport. We want to see another undisputed champ in this division soon.

LOL, I almost blew my coffee when this comment,  ;D. But yeah, I do agree that Tank Davis is a paper champion, even his 140 lbs belt he won against Barrios was a cherry pick fight for him because he knows he can beat Barrios easily and then didn't defend it and go back to 135 lbs.

So wouldn't like an upset here? Frank Martin has the talent, he just need to avoid that power punches from Tank Davis and then be the aggressor and score more points and hope that the judges will give him the nod after 12 rounds.


Title: Re: Tank Davis Vs Frank Martin WBA Lightweight Title June 22 HoustonTexas
Post by: inthelongrun on May 23, 2024, 04:19:29 AM
There were plenty of upsets happening lately, Denys Berinchyk won the WBO belt at 135 against 3 division world champion Emanuel Navarette. Joe Cordina lost his belt, Giovanni Santillan also losing his interim belt and avoided heavyweight technician Frank Sanchez was stopped. So I am also hoping Frank Martin to pull an upset here and steal that WBA email belt. I find Tank an explosive and exciting fighter but he is cherry picking for many years and is a coward to fight against the other champions for many years so Frank Martin winning is better for the sport. We want to see another undisputed champ in this division soon.

LOL, I almost blew my coffee when this comment,  ;D. But yeah, I do agree that Tank Davis is a paper champion, even his 140 lbs belt he won against Barrios was a cherry pick fight for him because he knows he can beat Barrios easily and then didn't defend it and go back to 135 lbs.

So wouldn't like an upset here? Frank Martin has the talent, he just need to avoid that power punches from Tank Davis and then be the aggressor and score more points and hope that the judges will give him the nod after 12 rounds.

It's just crazy how blinded are the fans of Tank Davis. The belt he won over Barrios was only the regular version though so it does not count since the real WBA belt was held by either Pacman or Ugas at that time. But this current email belt is a real one, emailed to him by the corrupt WBA after Haney vacated all the belts.

Hopefully, Martin can pull an upset. I heard rumors that Davis was putting a rehydration clause on the contract. I hope it is not true. Although, I agree that all these sanctioning bodies should have a rehydration limit at fight night to make fights more fair and less hazardous to the fighters welfare.


Title: Re: Tank Davis Vs Frank Martin WBA Lightweight Title June 22 HoustonTexas
Post by: bisdak40 on May 23, 2024, 11:44:04 AM
Hopefully, Martin can pull an upset. I heard rumors that Davis was putting a rehydration clause on the contract. I hope it is not true. Although, I agree that all these sanctioning bodies should have a rehydration limit at fight night to make fights more fair and less hazardous to the fighters welfare.

I think that rehydration clause is stipulated in their contract, if I'm correct it is a 12-pound rehydration clause that I have read somewhere but just forgot the link. Frank Martin is a decent boxer but I don't think he can pull an upset here mate as Tank Davis is a clever one though i want him also to lose but to Ryan Garcia if ever they have a rematch.


Title: Re: Tank Davis Vs Frank Martin WBA Lightweight Title June 22 HoustonTexas
Post by: FinneysTrueVision on May 24, 2024, 04:45:29 AM
It's just crazy how blinded are the fans of Tank Davis. The belt he won over Barrios was only the regular version though so it does not count since the real WBA belt was held by either Pacman or Ugas at that time. But this current email belt is a real one, emailed to him by the corrupt WBA after Haney vacated all the belts.

The interim and regular belt nonsense is getting out of hand. PBC is by far the worst offender out of all the promoters. This card with Tank will have two interim fights, WBC interim light heavyweight and WBC interim super lightweight, and the other two fights on PPV will involve Carlos Adames, who is also an email champion that was elevated from interim to full champion by the WBC, and there is Tank himself, who didn’t become world champion inside the ring but was elevated once Haney moved up.

These belts don’t mean anything anymore if they are being handed out so gratuitously. To make matters worse, many of these PBC paper champions end up holding the belts hostage for a long time by being inactive.


Title: Re: Tank Davis Vs Frank Martin WBA Lightweight Title June 22 HoustonTexas
Post by: TravelMug on May 24, 2024, 10:38:38 AM
It's just crazy how blinded are the fans of Tank Davis. The belt he won over Barrios was only the regular version though so it does not count since the real WBA belt was held by either Pacman or Ugas at that time. But this current email belt is a real one, emailed to him by the corrupt WBA after Haney vacated all the belts.

The interim and regular belt nonsense is getting out of hand. PBC is by far the worst offender out of all the promoters. This card with Tank will have two interim fights, WBC interim light heavyweight and WBC interim super lightweight, and the other two fights on PPV will involve Carlos Adames, who is also an email champion that was elevated from interim to full champion by the WBC, and there is Tank himself, who didn’t become world champion inside the ring but was elevated once Haney moved up.

These belts don’t mean anything anymore if they are being handed out so gratuitously. To make matters worse, many of these PBC paper champions end up holding the belts hostage for a long time by being inactive.

Well this is just another proof how corrupt boxing is, with so many belts and governing bodies not enforcing their own rule and just let powerful promoters like PBC to run their course to have interim belts within them and not facing the regular champion.

So I do agree that those belts mean nothing, and as we can see in a given organization, there could be 2 or even 3 champion at the same time, the regular, the interim, and then champion in recess.


Title: Re: Tank Davis Vs Frank Martin WBA Lightweight Title June 22 HoustonTexas
Post by: Kemarit on May 29, 2024, 11:36:28 PM
Not sure if you have seen this interview, Frank Martin was asked if he is pissed off because Ryan Garcia, his stable mate, is picking up Tank Davis to defeat him.

https://x.com/vinquezada1/status/1795907920443699599

And Frank responded with,

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“He don’t know what he wants to do. I feel like all of the sh*t he be pulling is all fake. Like, you go from being at the press(conference) after his fight saying ‘Frank going to beat him’ then it goes to ‘I bet 1 million tank going to knock him out’.. you know so I feel like it’s fake”

Yeah, Ryan Garcia could be faking everything, as we have seen in his promotion with Devin Haney. Or perhaps he is helping Frank Martin to get media attention with this kind of controversial statement so that the fight will get more attention and revenue.


Title: Re: Tank Davis Vs Frank Martin WBA Lightweight Title June 22 HoustonTexas
Post by: FinneysTrueVision on May 30, 2024, 04:41:32 AM
Not sure if you have seen this interview, Frank Martin was asked if he is pissed off because Ryan Garcia, his stable mate, is picking up Tank Davis to defeat him.

Ryan has only been with Derrick James for 2 fights, and in that period Frank Martin has not been very active. They probably have not had many interactions with each other. It is obvious that Tank is a heavy favorite. Since they have not developed a close friendship, there is no obligation for Ryan to spare Frank’s feelings and say something which he doesn’t believe will happen. The last time Ryan bet on an underdog against Tank, he lost $20k in a bet he made with Errol Spence.


Title: Re: Tank Davis Vs Frank Martin WBA Lightweight Title June 22 HoustonTexas
Post by: Yaunfitda on May 31, 2024, 10:25:55 AM
Not sure if you have seen this interview, Frank Martin was asked if he is pissed off because Ryan Garcia, his stable mate, is picking up Tank Davis to defeat him.

Ryan has only been with Derrick James for 2 fights, and in that period Frank Martin has not been very active. They probably have not had many interactions with each other. It is obvious that Tank is a heavy favorite. Since they have not developed a close friendship, there is no obligation for Ryan to spare Frank’s feelings and say something which he doesn’t believe will happen. The last time Ryan bet on an underdog against Tank, he lost $20k in a bet he made with Errol Spence.
I think they know each other, there are videos of them shadow boxing together,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evyX-2Uz9LI

As both are preparing for their respective fight. So not sure why suddenly Ryan said, if he truly says it, that he is on Davis here vs here stable mate Frank Martin. Of course, maybe Martin knows something like he said, it could be just a ploy in the part of Ryan here.