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Title: Jollygood is a person who feels great, even though he is just a narcissistic
Post by: PytagoraZ on April 22, 2024, 12:05:26 PM
Jollygood, accused someone and deliberately locked the thread so that he could influence other people and did not want to be debated on his statement.

Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5493610.0

So, he is nothing but a loser who only dares to express an opinion, but does not dare to argue, reason logically, and debate.

Jollygood is nothing more than a narcissist who feels he is the truest, most valuable, and most trusted member. Even though it's easy to see other people's mistakes by looking at Ninjastic, he doesn't have any good posts so that's all he can do.

Jolly, im back  ;), lets fight  :-*


Title: Re: Jollygood is a person who feels great, even though he is just a narcissistic
Post by: _act_ on April 22, 2024, 12:24:44 PM
On the signature campaign that I am presently, someone came to accuse BitcoinGirl.Club and making reference to the locked topic. If the thread was not locked, it is possible that the discussion may or may not favour Jollygood. If it does not favour Jollygood, that person will not come to troll on the campaign thread. It would have been better for Jollygood to leave the thread unlocked. I do not expect a reputable member to do what he did.


Title: Re: Jollygood is a person who feels great, even though he is just a narcissistic
Post by: PytagoraZ on April 22, 2024, 12:29:35 PM
On the signature campaign that I am presently, someone came to accuse BitcoinGirl.Club and making reference to the locked topic. If the thread was not locked, it is possible that the discussion may or may not favour Jollygood. If it does not favour Jollygood, that person will not come to troll on the campaign thread. It would have been better for Jollygood to leave the thread unlocked. I do not expect a reputable member to do what he did.

Jollygood gave an example, the way to accuse someone is to create an accusation thread and lock it. Someone can copy what it does and then use it as a reference to provide negative tags


Title: Re: Jollygood is a person who feels great, even though he is just a narcissistic
Post by: Don Pedro Dinero on April 22, 2024, 12:51:09 PM
It would have been better for Jollygood to leave the thread unlocked. I do not expect a reputable member to do what he did.

I agree with this. I didn't quite understand why he created that thread and locked it. I think it would have been better to leave it open for discussion, although nothing prevents someone from creating a parallel thread in this section to discuss the topic (it won't be me, to avoid dramas).


Title: Re: Jollygood is a person who feels great, even though he is just a narcissistic
Post by: examplens on April 22, 2024, 01:04:01 PM
It would have been better for Jollygood to leave the thread unlocked. I do not expect a reputable member to do what he did.

I agree with this. I didn't quite understand why he created that thread and locked it. I think it would have been better to leave it open for discussion, although nothing prevents someone from creating a parallel thread in this section to discuss the topic (it won't be me, to avoid dramas).

The topic is quite pointless and I understand why it was locked immediately.
I didn't see any accusations there, but only a statement that BitcoinGirl.Club was put on distrust by several members.

although nothing prevents someone from creating a parallel thread in this section to discuss the topic (it won't be me, to avoid dramas).

@PytagoraZ did it  ;)


Title: Re: Jollygood is a person who feels great, even though he is just a narcissistic
Post by: PytagoraZ on April 22, 2024, 01:04:31 PM
It would have been better for Jollygood to leave the thread unlocked. I do not expect a reputable member to do what he did.

I agree with this. I didn't quite understand why he created that thread and locked it. I think it would have been better to leave it open for discussion, although nothing prevents someone from creating a parallel thread in this section to discuss the topic (it won't be me, to avoid dramas).

This is clearly a bad action by Jolly. I honestly wasn't surprised by his actions because I never thought he was a qualified and reputable member.

Let's wait what reason he has for locking the thread, because he has locked it for 2 days. But I'm not sure he'll give a good reason, or even comment here because he usually only comments on threads where many members support him.

As far as I know, only icopress really likes him and always gives him campaigns.

It would have been better for Jollygood to leave the thread unlocked. I do not expect a reputable member to do what he did.

I agree with this. I didn't quite understand why he created that thread and locked it. I think it would have been better to leave it open for discussion, although nothing prevents someone from creating a parallel thread in this section to discuss the topic (it won't be me, to avoid dramas).

The topic is quite pointless and I understand why it was locked immediately.
I didn't see any accusations there, but only a statement that BitcoinGirl.Club was put on distrust by several members.

It was a post created to direct the masses not to trust bitcoingirls. If the topic is useless then the op can delete it, but jolly deliberately left it alone and deliberately locked it because it aims to damage bitcoingirls' reputation, this is a reputation board so whatever is here is related to that. Do you understand?


Title: Re: Jollygood is a person who feels great, even though he is just a narcissistic
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on April 23, 2024, 05:16:55 AM
Yes, most likely he had exactly this goal: to convey to the community an incident that happened in the company’s signature. I first learned about this from his thread. But yes, I probably should have left the topic open, for the usual throwing of insults, as is usually the case, and for buying popcorn for the observers.  :)

PytagoraZ, it would be too dubious for you to call him a failure. Do you have a mirror? By the way, in your new account, don’t be so noticeable so as not to arouse Jolly’s suspicion, as happened with this account.
Although I'm sorry about what happened to you.


Title: Re: Jollygood is a person who feels great, even though he is just a narcissistic
Post by: LoyceV on April 23, 2024, 07:12:43 AM
This is clearly a bad action by Jolly.
I agree it would have been better to keep the thread open. But it looks like you're just throwing dirt because JollyGood was the first one to call you out on your Trust Summary page. If you cared about BitcoinGirl.Club's case, you would have picked a different title.


Title: Re: Jollygood is a person who feels great, even though he is just a narcissistic
Post by: PytagoraZ on April 23, 2024, 09:58:09 AM
PytagoraZ, it would be too dubious for you to call him a failure. Do you have a mirror? By the way, in your new account, don’t be so noticeable so as not to arouse Jolly’s suspicion, as happened with this account.
Although I'm sorry about what happened to you.

Alt account? Good advice, I don't have any at the moment. but maybe one day I will have it. lol

This is clearly a bad action by Jolly.
I agree it would have been better to keep the thread open. But it looks like you're just throwing dirt because JollyGood was the first one to call you out on your Trust Summary page. If you cared about BitcoinGirl.Club's case, you would have picked a different title.

I don't care about reputation anymore, but what Jolly did was a bad act that influenced mass opinion with the aim of damaging Bitcoingirl's reputation. From what I learned about trust systems in your thread, trust systems are used to prevent someone from cheating other members of their money. I've never cheated anyone of money so I don't think I have anything to fear.

With the neg trust that I have, I'm just here to discuss without any monetary reward behind it. I always like people who like to discuss even if they have different opinions, but Jolly is not the type of person who likes to discuss, maybe because his intellect is below average.  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Jollygood is a person who feels great, even though he is just a narcissistic
Post by: JackpotRacer on April 23, 2024, 11:32:35 AM
IMO @JollyGood instead of making a post and locking it, he could make a self moderated thread. It is clearly a very bad example he has set.

Anyone could take his example now (yes, even me) and open such a thread. what then? Yes, many accusations and no one can defend himself except to do the same. LOL


Title: Re: Jollygood is a person who feels great, even though he is just a narcissistic
Post by: PytagoraZ on April 23, 2024, 11:46:36 AM
IMO @JollyGood instead of making a post and locking it, he could make a self moderated thread. It is clearly a very bad example he has set.

Anyone could take his example now (yes, even me) and open such a thread. what then? Yes, many accusations and no one can defend himself except to do the same. LOL


That's an example of a DT who people say has a good reputation and can be trusted, but who commits stupid and anti-critical actions. So, is there still trust in people like that? I know not all DTs are like that, but Jolly has abused a lot of trust system


Title: Re: Jollygood is a person who feels great, even though he is just a narcissistic
Post by: JackpotRacer on April 23, 2024, 11:59:30 AM
IMO @JollyGood instead of making a post and locking it, he could make a self moderated thread. It is clearly a very bad example he has set.

Anyone could take his example now (yes, even me) and open such a thread. what then? Yes, many accusations and no one can defend himself except to do the same. LOL


That's an example of a DT who people say has a good reputation and can be trusted, but who commits stupid and anti-critical actions. So, is there still trust in people like that? I know not all DTs are like that, but Jolly has abused a lot of trust system

You are absolutely right and narcissist is IMO a compliment because what @JollyGood is doing is much worse. He is actually afraid of members who criticize him and shuts them out by locking the thread immediately after one post.



Title: Re: Jollygood is a person who feels great, even though he is just a narcissistic
Post by: nutildah on April 28, 2024, 09:08:05 AM
By the way, in your new account, don’t be so noticeable so as not to arouse Jolly’s suspicion, as happened with this account.
Although I'm sorry about what happened to you.

Alt account? Good advice, I don't have any at the moment. but maybe one day I will have it. lol

C'mon man, give it up. Its so completely obvious what happened with your komisariatku account. You (he) posted as komisariatku not just once but twice on accident, and you even told shasan that the accounts didn't know each other. LOL. I do not think you're in any type of position to call anyone a narcissist given how brazen (and annoying) you were as a "newbie," and as you refuse to admit you got caught slippin. That's a classic sign of a narcissist: the inability to admit when one was wrong.

Next time (and I have no doubt you've started a new account already), try to be more humble, and don't interject yourself in reputational matters that don't concern you... That's a dead giveaway that a newbie is an alt... Among other things, which I won't disclose as they are "proprietary trade secrets."


Title: Re: Jollygood is a person who feels great, even though he is just a narcissistic
Post by: PytagoraZ on April 28, 2024, 09:32:42 AM
By the way, in your new account, don’t be so noticeable so as not to arouse Jolly’s suspicion, as happened with this account.
Although I'm sorry about what happened to you.

Alt account? Good advice, I don't have any at the moment. but maybe one day I will have it. lol

C'mon man, give it up. Its so completely obvious what happened with your komisariatku account. You (he) posted as komisariatku not just once but twice on accident, and you even told shasan that the accounts didn't know each other. LOL. I do not think you're in any type of position to call anyone a narcissist given how brazen (and annoying) you were as a "newbie," and as you refuse to admit you got caught slippin. That's a classic sign of a narcissist: the inability to admit when one was wrong.

Next time (and I have no doubt you've started a new account already), try to be more humble, and don't interject yourself in reputational matters that don't concern you... That's a dead giveaway that a newbie is an alt... Among other things, which I won't disclose as they are "proprietary trade secrets."

Of course there is no prohibition for me having an opinion in this forum, and do you think Jolly's actions are correct and should be used as an example by other members?

I don't think there is anything that needs to be explained further because there is already an explanation in your thread about what actually happened between me and komisariatku. Our relationship has also improved and I have compensated for the losses caused by my mistakes.

I don't hate you and you are still on my trust list even though you don't trust me. I don't care about other people's views because I have my own views. But for jolly? even he didn't dare to come here and comment because he knew his actions were something inappropriate


Title: Re: Jollygood is a person who feels great, even though he is just a narcissistic
Post by: nutildah on April 30, 2024, 03:10:53 AM
do you think Jolly's actions are correct and should be used as an example by other members?

Not always, no. But he was spot on when it came to his neutral feedback on you, the 1st left by anybody:

JollyGood (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1016855)    2023-07-05    Reference (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5457879.msg62487845#msg62487845)    This "PytagoraZ" account was created less than a month ago but seems to know a lot about the forum and members. I suspect a farm/alt-account trying to increase rank as fast as possible probably for signature campaign enrolment.

This feedback will be edited after his motivations become known.

I don't think there is anything that needs to be explained further because there is already an explanation in your thread about what actually happened between me and komisariatku.

An explanation that nobody believes.

Our relationship has also improved and I have compensated for the losses caused by my mistakes.

Congratulations

https://i.redd.it/obvqaa0lhn841.jpg

I don't hate you and you are still on my trust list even though you don't trust me.

Good. I don't hate you either; I don't hate anyone on this forum - there's nothing here that's worth getting that upset over - but anyone who lands on my distrust list does so for a reason.

https://talkimg.com/images/2024/04/30/r6JpZ.png (https://loyce.club/trust/2023-07-08_Sat_05.07h/3559721.html)


Title: Re: Jollygood is a person who feels great, even though he is just a narcissistic
Post by: PytagoraZ on April 30, 2024, 03:28:46 AM
do you think Jolly's actions are correct and should be used as an example by other members?

Not always, no. But he was spot on when it came to his neutral feedback on you, the 1st left by anybody:

JollyGood (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1016855)    2023-07-05    Reference (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5457879.msg62487845#msg62487845)    This "PytagoraZ" account was created less than a month ago but seems to know a lot about the forum and members. I suspect a farm/alt-account trying to increase rank as fast as possible probably for signature campaign enrolment.

This feedback will be edited after his motivations become known.

I don't think there is anything that needs to be explained further because there is already an explanation in your thread about what actually happened between me and komisariatku.

An explanation that nobody believes.

Our relationship has also improved and I have compensated for the losses caused by my mistakes.

Congratulations

https://i.redd.it/obvqaa0lhn841.jpg

I don't hate you and you are still on my trust list even though you don't trust me.

Good. I don't hate you either; I don't hate anyone on this forum - there's nothing here that's worth getting that upset over - but anyone who lands on my distrust list does so for a reason.

https://talkimg.com/images/2024/04/30/r6JpZ.png (https://loyce.club/trust/2023-07-08_Sat_05.07h/3559721.html)

Thank you for not hating me. I don't like Jolly because of the abuse he does, and the worst thing is when he creates threads to ruin someone's reputation and locks the thread. His bad actions were even imitated by other members, very bad

If I hated JG because of the tag he gave me, then you should be the first person I hated, but I didn't.

I guess you also don't agree with what JG did, but you chose to play it safe. So I'm here to speak out about his terrible actions



Regarding the true story that happened to me, komisariatku has explained many things. Believe it or not, it's your right. Moreover, negative tags don't limit me in discussing, because I like discussing so it is not a serious problem.


Title: Re: Jollygood is a person who feels great, even though he is just a narcissistic
Post by: JackpotRacer on April 30, 2024, 06:29:55 AM


I don't hate you and you are still on my trust list even though you don't trust me.

Good. I don't hate you either; I don't hate anyone on this forum - there's nothing here that's worth getting that upset over - but anyone who lands on my distrust list does so for a reason.

https://talkimg.com/images/2024/04/30/r6JpZ.png (https://loyce.club/trust/2023-07-08_Sat_05.07h/3559721.html)

Why so many colors? Hmm, I remember that many people did not like colored text and attacked me when I used it. So colored text looks very useful to me.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5489235.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5489235.0)


Title: Re: Jollygood is a person who feels great, even though he is just a narcissistic
Post by: nutildah on May 01, 2024, 03:24:26 AM
Regarding the true story that happened to me, komisariatku has explained many things. Believe it or not, it's your right. Moreover, negative tags don't limit me in discussing, because I like discussing so it is not a serious problem.

He is a controversial figure indeed but at this point in time I feel the positive contributions he added to the forum via his feedbacks outweigh the negatives, so he will remain in my trust list. Yes, you're still free to discuss what you want, nobody is going to argue with you about that.

Why so many colors? Hmm, I remember that many people did not like colored text and attacked me when I used it. So colored text looks very useful to me.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5489235.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5489235.0)

You really think I'm the one that choses "so many colors" for LoyceV's forum tool?

Or you're just complaining about the use of non-black text? You should clone Loyce's site and change the text to black or some shade of gray, surely that would solve this very important problem.


Title: Re: Jollygood is a person who feels great, even though he is just a narcissistic
Post by: JackpotRacer on May 01, 2024, 01:31:08 PM
Regarding the true story that happened to me, komisariatku has explained many things. Believe it or not, it's your right. Moreover, negative tags don't limit me in discussing, because I like discussing so it is not a serious problem.

He is a controversial figure indeed but at this point in time I feel the positive contributions he added to the forum via his feedbacks outweigh the negatives, so he will remain in my trust list. Yes, you're still free to discuss what you want, nobody is going to argue with you about that.

Why so many colors? Hmm, I remember that many people did not like colored text and attacked me when I used it. So colored text looks very useful to me.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5489235.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5489235.0)

You really think I'm the one that choses "so many colors" for LoyceV's forum tool?

Or you're just complaining about the use of non-black text? You should clone Loyce's site and change the text to black or some shade of gray, surely that would solve this very important problem.

Do you really get paid even 1 Satoshi for this post of yours in the reputation thread?/b]
 
if yes it would be a Shame

at least I get paid for my Signature wherever I post



Title: Re: Jollygood is a person who feels great, even though he is just a narcissistic
Post by: PytagoraZ on May 01, 2024, 10:29:13 PM
Regarding the true story that happened to me, komisariatku has explained many things. Believe it or not, it's your right. Moreover, negative tags don't limit me in discussing, because I like discussing so it is not a serious problem.

He is a controversial figure indeed but at this point in time I feel the positive contributions he added to the forum via his feedbacks outweigh the negatives, so he will remain in my trust list. Yes, you're still free to discuss what you want, nobody is going to argue with you about that.

Yes, it's your choice to trust him or not, but I'm sure it's only a matter of time until people's realize the mistake that Jolly made.

I acknowledge your abilities, lovesmyfamilies and several other members who have good abilities and views and are worthy of being DT. But for me it's still not for Jolly


Title: Re: Jollygood is a person who feels great, even though he is just a narcissistic
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on May 02, 2024, 10:57:59 AM
That's an example of a DT who people say has a good reputation and can be trusted, but who commits stupid and anti-critical actions. So, is there still trust in people like that? I know not all DTs are like that, but Jolly has abused a lot of trust system

Making a thread like that and locking it isn't the worst crime in the world, and I think everyone is blowing that way out of proportion.  Yes, it was a breach of etiquette and the thread shouldn't have been locked, but it's not as though he stopped any discussion about BitcoinGirl.Club's trustworthiness.  He just made it impossible to discuss in his own thread.

JollyGood has indeed shown a pattern of poor judgement when it comes to using the trust system, which is why I had him excluded way back before I wiped my trust list entirely.  In fact, I just realized that when I made a new trust list not too long ago, I forgot to exclude him from it--but that omission has now been corrected.  Last I knew, JG was trying to do some good on the forum and might still be; I haven't looked at any of the feedbacks he's handed out in probably a year or more, but though I don't think he ought to be on DT I don't think he's a malicious, evil motherfucker either.

And to those of you complaining about his wrongly-given trust, just ~ him in your trust list if you haven't already.  If enough members on DT do that, he won't be on DT anymore and his feedbacks won't carry nearly as much weight.  The whole DT system is a farce, but the inclusion/exclusion feature is a voting mechanism and problem DT members ideally should be weeded out through it.


Title: Re: Jollygood is a person who feels great, even though he is just a narcissistic
Post by: JackpotRacer on May 02, 2024, 11:16:57 AM
That's an example of a DT who people say has a good reputation and can be trusted, but who commits stupid and anti-critical actions. So, is there still trust in people like that? I know not all DTs are like that, but Jolly has abused a lot of trust system

Making a thread like that and locking it isn't the worst crime in the world, and I think everyone is blowing that way out of proportion.  Yes, it was a breach of etiquette and the thread shouldn't have been locked, but it's not as though he stopped any discussion about BitcoinGirl.Club's trustworthiness.  He just made it impossible to discuss in his own thread.

JollyGood has indeed shown a pattern of poor judgement when it comes to using the trust system, which is why I had him excluded way back before I wiped my trust list entirely.  In fact, I just realized that when I made a new trust list not too long ago, I forgot to exclude him from it--but that omission has now been corrected.  Last I knew, JG was trying to do some good on the forum and might still be; I haven't looked at any of the feedbacks he's handed out in probably a year or more, but though I don't think he ought to be on DT I don't think he's a malicious, evil motherfucker either.

And to those of you complaining about his wrongly-given trust, just ~ him in your trust list if you haven't already.  If enough members on DT do that, he won't be on DT anymore and his feedbacks won't carry nearly as much weight.  The whole DT system is a farce, but the inclusion/exclusion feature is a voting mechanism and problem DT members ideally should be weeded out through it.

Yes, it is not the worst crime because it is not a crime at all ;)

As for the rest, what you wrote and pointed out is IMO spot on and feels good to read.


Title: Re: Jollygood is a person who feels great, even though he is just a narcissistic
Post by: SmartGold01 on May 02, 2024, 11:55:42 AM
IMO @JollyGood instead of making a post and locking it, he could make a self moderated thread.
You think making a thread self moderated is the best?
No, this is not the best because whatever comment he doesn't like can be easily erased if he is not happy with the comment. And if op feels what he did is wrong then he can likely create his topic quoting what he has said on the locked topic then the discussion may likely continue instead of fighting on self moderated topic. Between locking a topic doesn't show a true statement where one can't be able to comment and share their opinion or possibly wouldn't want others to reveal the truth about the case.


Title: Re: Jollygood is a person who feels great, even though he is just a narcissistic
Post by: JackpotRacer on May 02, 2024, 03:27:41 PM
IMO @JollyGood instead of making a post and locking it, he could make a self moderated thread.
You think making a thread self moderated is the best?
No, this is not the best because whatever comment he doesn't like can be easily erased if he is not happy with the comment. And if op feels what he did is wrong then he can likely create his topic quoting what he has said on the locked topic then the discussion may likely continue instead of fighting on self moderated topic. Between locking a topic doesn't show a true statement where one can't be able to comment and share their opinion or possibly wouldn't want others to reveal the truth about the case.

Sorry, I did not say it is best to do self moderated thread! I think it is better than opening a thread and locking it after the first post. it was a very bad move and example of a so called DT as for me JollyGood was once a scammer hunter and changed to his bad and I really can not explain or see why he changed to the bad. Maybe someone has a logical explanation.


Title: Re: Jollygood is a person who feels great, even though he is just a narcissistic
Post by: PytagoraZ on May 02, 2024, 05:24:25 PM
That's an example of a DT who people say has a good reputation and can be trusted, but who commits stupid and anti-critical actions. So, is there still trust in people like that? I know not all DTs are like that, but Jolly has abused a lot of trust system

Making a thread like that and locking it isn't the worst crime in the world, and I think everyone is blowing that way out of proportion.  Yes, it was a breach of etiquette and the thread shouldn't have been locked, but it's not as though he stopped any discussion about BitcoinGirl.Club's trustworthiness.  He just made it impossible to discuss in his own thread.

If we talk about humanity then the worst crime is killing humans, if we talk about independence then the worst crime is colonialism, if bitcointalk is a discussion forum then the worst crime is prohibiting discussion (such as creating a controversial thread and locking it)

JollyGood has indeed shown a pattern of poor judgement when it comes to using the trust system, which is why I had him excluded way back before I wiped my trust list entirely.  In fact, I just realized that when I made a new trust list not too long ago, I forgot to exclude him from it--but that omission has now been corrected.  Last I knew, JG was trying to do some good on the forum and might still be; I haven't looked at any of the feedbacks he's handed out in probably a year or more, but though I don't think he ought to be on DT I don't think he's a malicious, evil motherfucker either.

And to those of you complaining about his wrongly-given trust, just ~ him in your trust list if you haven't already.  If enough members on DT do that, he won't be on DT anymore and his feedbacks won't carry nearly as much weight.  The whole DT system is a farce, but the inclusion/exclusion feature is a voting mechanism and problem DT members ideally should be weeded out through it.

For all these statements, I agree with you and as usuall you have a great view.