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Title: Israil Madrimov vs Terrence Crawford
Post by: inthelongrun on April 24, 2024, 02:34:05 AM
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After all the failed talks about Crawford and Spence rematch. There's also Crawford against Canelo and his petition on becoming the WBO mandatory at 154 which is now held by Fondura who also owes a rematch to former champ, Tim Tszyu. Terrence Crawford is finally making his return at 154 against undefeated WBA champion Israil Madrimov. If Crawford wins, he will become a 4 division world champion. The WBO also made a special order by considering this fight for their interim belt. I don't know if an interim belt is necessary but it might enforce the winner of Fundora-Tszyu rematch to face the winner of Crawford-Madrimov.

This is a well-stacked card. Plenty of known names although some of them are past their primes. There's also talk about Tim Tszyu fighting against Vergil Ortiz in the undercard.


Title: Re: Israil Madrimov vs Terrence Crawford
Post by: robelneo on April 24, 2024, 12:15:11 PM
Bro after you posted this article I stumbled on this article, I'm just surprised and curious about why Eddie Hearn veteran promoters who had seen hundreds and promoted great fights will doubt Crawford's capability to defeat Madrimov.

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Hearn mentions the size and punching power of Madrimov (10-0-1, 7 KOs) will be a problem for Crawford (40-0, 31 KOs), who has never fought at 154 during his 16-year career and isn’t a spring chicken at a weathered 36.

Source: Eddie Hearn Raises Doubts: Can Terence Crawford Overcome Israil Madrimov? - Boxing News 24 (https://www.boxingnews24.com/2024/04/eddie-hearn-raises-doubts-can-terence-crawford-overcome-israil-madrimov/)

Is Madrivov that good to Hearn doubts Crawford to beat Madrimov, BTW this card is loaded I hope to see Vergil Ortiz in this fight he's been on a long vacation against Tim Tszyu who will be looking to bounce back from that Fundora-upset.


Title: Re: Israil Madrimov vs Terrence Crawford
Post by: Hypnosis00 on April 24, 2024, 12:21:13 PM
Great move by Terrence Crawford, finally he decided to move up and challenge the champion.

As per the betting odds, Crawford is the heavy favorite.
https://www.oddschecker.com/boxing/israil-madrimov-v-terence-crawford/winner

After this, if Crawford wins, I hope he can unify the belt with the other champions, maybe against Sebastian Fundora who owned 2 belts.


Title: Re: Israil Madrimov vs Terrence Crawford
Post by: Baofeng on April 24, 2024, 12:33:00 PM
Bro after you posted this article I stumbled on this article, I'm just surprised and curious about why Eddie Hearn veteran promoters who had seen hundreds and promoted great fights will doubt Crawford's capability to defeat Madrimov.

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Hearn mentions the size and punching power of Madrimov (10-0-1, 7 KOs) will be a problem for Crawford (40-0, 31 KOs), who has never fought at 154 during his 16-year career and isn’t a spring chicken at a weathered 36.

Source: Eddie Hearn Raises Doubts: Can Terence Crawford Overcome Israil Madrimov? - Boxing News 24 (https://www.boxingnews24.com/2024/04/eddie-hearn-raises-doubts-can-terence-crawford-overcome-israil-madrimov/)

Is Madrivov that good to Hearn doubts Crawford to beat Madrimov, BTW this card is loaded I hope to see Vergil Ortiz in this fight he's been on a long vacation against Tim Tszyu who will be looking to bounce back from that Fundora-upset.

It's because this fight is at 154 lbs and we haven't seen Crawford at this weight class and so Eddie Hearn doubt Crawford to win this fight. But we all know that this is just to promote this fight.

I think Crawford will still be good at 154 lbs, it's just 7 lbs about his usual weight class and maybe at fight night in the Spence fight, he could be very well above 150 lbs. It's just that Eddie Hearn is exaggerating things and already selling this fight for the boxing fans.


Title: Re: Israil Madrimov vs Terrence Crawford
Post by: aioc on April 24, 2024, 01:07:58 PM
Bro after you posted this article I stumbled on this article, I'm just surprised and curious about why Eddie Hearn veteran promoters who had seen hundreds and promoted great fights will doubt Crawford's capability to defeat Madrimov.

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Hearn mentions the size and punching power of Madrimov (10-0-1, 7 KOs) will be a problem for Crawford (40-0, 31 KOs), who has never fought at 154 during his 16-year career and isn’t a spring chicken at a weathered 36.

Source: Eddie Hearn Raises Doubts: Can Terence Crawford Overcome Israil Madrimov? - Boxing News 24 (https://www.boxingnews24.com/2024/04/eddie-hearn-raises-doubts-can-terence-crawford-overcome-israil-madrimov/)

Is Madrivov that good to Hearn doubts Crawford to beat Madrimov, BTW this card is loaded I hope to see Vergil Ortiz in this fight he's been on a long vacation against Tim Tszyu who will be looking to bounce back from that Fundora-upset.

It's because this fight is at 154 lbs and we haven't seen Crawford at this weight class and so Eddie Hearn doubt Crawford to win this fight. But we all know that this is just to promote this fight.

I think Crawford will still be good at 154 lbs, it's just 7 lbs about his usual weight class and maybe at fight night in the Spence fight, he could be very well above 150 lbs. It's just that Eddie Hearn is exaggerating things and already selling this fight for the boxing fans.

Lately, Hearns has been saying a lot of stupid things like he thinks the match between Garcia and Haney is a draw and now Crawford will have a hard time beating Madrimov, after proving himself against Spence, of course, he wants fans to think that Crawford is still beatable of course he can be upset but doubting Crawford power and skill is another story.

I prefer to call his analysis stupid analysis than try to hype the fight.
After Crawford knocks out Madrimov Hearns will make another alibi about his opinion of Crawford just like he did on Garcia.


Title: Re: Israil Madrimov vs Terrence Crawford
Post by: coin-investor on April 24, 2024, 02:10:46 PM
Great move by Terrence Crawford, finally he decided to move up and challenge the champion.

As per the betting odds, Crawford is the heavy favorite.
https://www.oddschecker.com/boxing/israil-madrimov-v-terence-crawford/winner

After this, if Crawford wins, I hope he can unify the belt with the other champions, maybe against Sebastian Fundora who owned 2 belts.

After he decisively beats Spence he will be the heavy favorite against boxers who are not considered elite and this includes both Madrimov and Fundora, Terrence Crawford is getting wiser he is still undefeated and father time will soon catch him so it is better to protect his record for a big payday in future that is why he avoids Ennis.

Great fights are lining up for Crawford he can challenge any or both the Charlo brothers, and who knows we might end up seeing Crawford challenging Canelo in the future.

Crawford is on a journey to greatness and it's the right decision to move I believe he can take his power and maintain his speed in 154 he might end up wiping the 154 division just like he did in the Welterweight division.


Title: Re: Israil Madrimov vs Terrence Crawford
Post by: Eternad on April 24, 2024, 02:18:04 PM
Great move by Terrence Crawford, finally he decided to move up and challenge the champion.

As per the betting odds, Crawford is the heavy favorite.
https://www.oddschecker.com/boxing/israil-madrimov-v-terence-crawford/winner

After this, if Crawford wins, I hope he can unify the belt with the other champions, maybe against Sebastian Fundora who owned 2 belts.

After he decisively beats Spence he will be the heavy favorite against boxers who are not considered elite and this includes both Madrimov and Fundora, Terrence Crawford is getting wiser he is still undefeated and father time will soon catch him so it is better to protect his record for a big payday in future that is why he avoids Ennis.

Great fights are lining up for Crawford he can challenge any or both the Charlo brothers, and who knows we might end up seeing Crawford challenging Canelo in the future.

Crawford is on a journey to greatness and it's the right decision to move I believe he can take his power and maintain his speed in 154 he might end up wiping the 154 division just like he did in the Welterweight division.


The Spence that he best is not the same Spence on his prime before his major accident occurred. Spence punch is lighter compared before that’s why Crawford manage to easily beat because his punch is not giving much weight to hurt Crawford.

Comparing Spence to the current Champion to a higher division is not the right thing to do because chasing higher division is always a hard task due to the weight adjustment. This is the reason why only few boxers manage to conquer multiple division especially on the middleweight part or higher because they are facing natural big frame for that weight class while they boost their weight just to qualify that might affect their speed during the adjustment.


Title: Re: Israil Madrimov vs Terrence Crawford
Post by: bittraffic on April 24, 2024, 03:04:53 PM
^ It will not be a big problem for Terrence to climb up since he has been in WW for a long time defending that title. It's even a wonder why he didn't move up like he had been wasting time over this division when he could have made it up when he was in his early 30s.

Still good to see a rematch against Spence. Madrimov is a good entry fight in this division, it's best to move up after if he is aiming big money fights since it is where they are. Maybe Charlo or Canelo next.

Saw a tweet this isn't in Saudi but in LA this August 3?


Title: Re: Israil Madrimov vs Terrence Crawford
Post by: inthelongrun on April 25, 2024, 02:32:42 AM
Bro after you posted this article I stumbled on this article, I'm just surprised and curious about why Eddie Hearn veteran promoters who had seen hundreds and promoted great fights will doubt Crawford's capability to defeat Madrimov.

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Hearn mentions the size and punching power of Madrimov (10-0-1, 7 KOs) will be a problem for Crawford (40-0, 31 KOs), who has never fought at 154 during his 16-year career and isn’t a spring chicken at a weathered 36.

Source: Eddie Hearn Raises Doubts: Can Terence Crawford Overcome Israil Madrimov? - Boxing News 24 (https://www.boxingnews24.com/2024/04/eddie-hearn-raises-doubts-can-terence-crawford-overcome-israil-madrimov/)

Is Madrivov that good to Hearn doubts Crawford to beat Madrimov, BTW this card is loaded I hope to see Vergil Ortiz in this fight he's been on a long vacation against Tim Tszyu who will be looking to bounce back from that Fundora-upset.

It's because this fight is at 154 lbs and we haven't seen Crawford at this weight class and so Eddie Hearn doubt Crawford to win this fight. But we all know that this is just to promote this fight.

I think Crawford will still be good at 154 lbs, it's just 7 lbs about his usual weight class and maybe at fight night in the Spence fight, he could be very well above 150 lbs. It's just that Eddie Hearn is exaggerating things and already selling this fight for the boxing fans.

Lately, Hearns has been saying a lot of stupid things like he thinks the match between Garcia and Haney is a draw and now Crawford will have a hard time beating Madrimov, after proving himself against Spence, of course, he wants fans to think that Crawford is still beatable of course he can be upset but doubting Crawford power and skill is another story.

I prefer to call his analysis stupid analysis than try to hype the fight.
After Crawford knocks out Madrimov Hearns will make another alibi about his opinion of Crawford just like he did on Garcia.

It's normal for Eddie to support his own fighters like when he supported Haney against Ryan. Madrimov is another champion under Matchroom. At least Eddie is pointing valid points like the size and the punching power. And as Baofeng mentioned, we are yet to see how Crawford performs at 154. Crawford might be 160 on fight night in his previous fights but Madrimov could be 175 on fight night. We'll see if Crawford still has enough power and speed at 36 and fighting bigger guys.

Here is the press conference. The fight is happening in LA but it is part of Saudi's ventures in the sport.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5rTN-Xs_rE


Title: Re: Israil Madrimov vs Terrence Crawford
Post by: Darker45 on April 25, 2024, 03:56:52 AM
Is Madrivov that good to Hearn doubts Crawford to beat Madrimov, BTW this card is loaded I hope to see Vergil Ortiz in this fight he's been on a long vacation against Tim Tszyu who will be looking to bounce back from that Fundora-upset.

This is always true to almost every match. They always make it appear as if they are a close fight, as if they aren't lop-sided. But, at the end of the day, if you look at the odds released by the experts, which will also eventually reflect the flow of money from bettors, it will become clear how a fight like this isn't actually as close as they make it appear. Well, that's marketing and lifting one's fighter, but that won't count in the end.

Madrimov isn't a tested and proven fighter yet. He isn't even that powerful. Crawford might not have fought yet at 154 but it was already his intention way back then to move up. He even revealed how he had a hard time making weight at 147 during their Spence match.


Title: Re: Israil Madrimov vs Terrence Crawford
Post by: FinneysTrueVision on April 25, 2024, 03:58:19 AM
The best fight on this stacked card might be Tim Tszyu vs. Vergil Ortiz. Ortiz was once considered one of the most promising prospects and was ranked #1 by the WBO, where Crawford was champion, and was also WBA mandatory. Unfortunately, his career was derailed by weight problems and health issues. Tszyu has proven to be a great fighter and will probably be favored, but if Ortiz can reach the potential many believed he had then he is capable of overcoming those odds.

For the main event, this is another nondescript Crawford opponent who looks good on paper but we have yet to see him tested at an elite level. I expect it to be a typical Crawford fight, where he might start slow but becomes increasingly more dominant as the rounds pass and he makes adjustments.


Title: Re: Israil Madrimov vs Terrence Crawford
Post by: bbc.reporter on April 25, 2024, 04:10:19 AM
Bro after you posted this article I stumbled on this article, I'm just surprised and curious about why Eddie Hearn veteran promoters who had seen hundreds and promoted great fights will doubt Crawford's capability to defeat Madrimov.

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Hearn mentions the size and punching power of Madrimov (10-0-1, 7 KOs) will be a problem for Crawford (40-0, 31 KOs), who has never fought at 154 during his 16-year career and isn’t a spring chicken at a weathered 36.

Source: Eddie Hearn Raises Doubts: Can Terence Crawford Overcome Israil Madrimov? - Boxing News 24 (https://www.boxingnews24.com/2024/04/eddie-hearn-raises-doubts-can-terence-crawford-overcome-israil-madrimov/)

Is Madrivov that good to Hearn doubts Crawford to beat Madrimov, BTW this card is loaded I hope to see Vergil Ortiz in this fight he's been on a long vacation against Tim Tszyu who will be looking to bounce back from that Fundora-upset.

It is head scratching that you are listening to Eddie Hearn's speculation. He is the promoter and owner of Matchroom boxing where Madromov is signed. Eddie Hearn is only doing this lying to hype his fighter Madrimov heheheh. Bud Crawford is the pound for pound, no.1, very best boxer in the whole world. I predict that this will be Crawford victory with a knockout before round 10.

@FinneysTrueVision. Agreed. This is a difficult challenge for Tim Tszyu after losing his championship with a split decsion. I reckon he should have a rematch or fight someone who does not have a chance to win against him hehehhe. Ortiz cannot be underestimated.


Title: Re: Israil Madrimov vs Terrence Crawford
Post by: Yaunfitda on April 25, 2024, 08:08:06 AM
The best fight on this stacked card might be Tim Tszyu vs. Vergil Ortiz. Ortiz was once considered one of the most promising prospects and was ranked #1 by the WBO, where Crawford was champion, and was also WBA mandatory. Unfortunately, his career was derailed by weight problems and health issues. Tszyu has proven to be a great fighter and will probably be favored, but if Ortiz can reach the potential many believed he had then he is capable of overcoming those odds.
Hopefully we can finally see Vergil Ortiz again, he has a promising career because health issues took over. Not sure if he is still in his prime though, but him and Tszyu will be crazy fight.

For the main event, this is another nondescript Crawford opponent who looks good on paper but we have yet to see him tested at an elite level. I expect it to be a typical Crawford fight, where he might start slow but becomes increasingly more dominant as the rounds pass and he makes adjustments.
Yes, and it's obvious that this is just a get busy fight for Crawford, just to make his body and mind active and instead of waiting for Spence or even a hypothetical Canelo fight, he might as well accept this fight, take the purse and the money, easy fight for him and so his hype is going to continue.


Title: Re: Israil Madrimov vs Terrence Crawford
Post by: Baofeng on April 25, 2024, 10:38:29 AM
Here is the press conference,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5rTN-Xs_rE

So for now there is no trash talking, seems that Madrimov is respectful. But we all know that this is two warriors so as the fight get's close we might see some trash talking. I would agree that this fight looks good in paper, but I think Crawford will win and then face Spence later.


Title: Re: Israil Madrimov vs Terrence Crawford
Post by: btc_angela on April 25, 2024, 10:52:46 AM
^^ But you really have to give it to Eddie Hearn for promoting Israil Madrimov and saying that he is the best 154 lbs. Lol. Same with Crawford but here's the big difference between Ryan and other boxers are fa as hyping the fight so that the fans are eager to see it. Here, just the boring talks of how good are each other, like the power, speed and the footwork.

But not sure if this will entice the boxing fans to watch this fight. And most likely this is what Bob Arum says when he was still promoting Crawford is that it's hard to see Terence fight because of this kind of promotions, sort of close to say that it is boring.


Title: Re: Israil Madrimov vs Terrence Crawford
Post by: yazher on April 25, 2024, 11:16:03 AM
It is a legacy bout for Terrence Crawford and he can fulfill his dream of adding records to his career by becoming a champion in a heavier division this is his way of proving that he is the best pound-per-pound boxer in the world. I want to witness him taking those huge challenges to become the next champion and also a possible unified champion because of how strong and skillful knockout artist he is. Also, I would like to watch Isaac Cruz get back to the ring to fight again since Mini-Tyson is getting popular nowadays due to his peekaboo style which has some similarities with Mike.


Title: Re: Israil Madrimov vs Terrence Crawford
Post by: Text on April 25, 2024, 12:36:25 PM
It's not uncommon for promoters to support or hype their fighters and angle the narrative in their favor to make the fights more interesting, it’s part of the business. He can be a bit biased towards his fighters, but he does bring up some good points. The size difference is significant, and we haven't seen Crawford at 154 before. Madrimov's power is no joke either.

Crawford's experience and technical skills are undeniable, but age and weight class can be factors. It'll be interesting to see how his speed and power translate at 154. He has consistently shown his skill and adaptability in the ring, but moving up in weight class always brings new challenges. Madrimov, being undefeated and holding the WBA title, is no pushover either.


Title: Re: Israil Madrimov vs Terrence Crawford
Post by: Jating on April 26, 2024, 08:11:32 AM
It's not uncommon for promoters to support or hype their fighters and angle the narrative in their favor to make the fights more interesting, it’s part of the business. He can be a bit biased towards his fighters, but he does bring up some good points. The size difference is significant, and we haven't seen Crawford at 154 before. Madrimov's power is no joke either.

I do agree, but as boxing fans, we haven't heard of Madrimov, although as per Eddie Hearn he had a fight in Saudi and it's impressive. But common, if he is that hype we have heard his name at 154 lbs already. What size difference? Crawford might be walking around 154 lbs off season so there is no problem with the weight and the power here. You can said the same with Errol Spence power, it's no joke but Crawford knock him out.

Crawford's experience and technical skills are undeniable, but age and weight class can be factors. It'll be interesting to see how his speed and power translate at 154. He has consistently shown his skill and adaptability in the ring, but moving up in weight class always brings new challenges. Madrimov, being undefeated and holding the WBA title, is no pushover either.

For me that's not much any difference to be honest, As I have said, 154 lbs could be Crawford's comfortable weight, no need to drain himself to 147 lbs. While Madrimov still needs to go down to that weight and diet. But we will see, for sure though, Crawford will be the favorite even if he is the challenger here.


Title: Re: Israil Madrimov vs Terrence Crawford
Post by: rodskee on April 26, 2024, 08:55:52 AM
Great move by Terrence Crawford, finally he decided to move up and challenge the champion.

As per the betting odds, Crawford is the heavy favorite.
https://www.oddschecker.com/boxing/israil-madrimov-v-terence-crawford/winner

After this, if Crawford wins, I hope he can unify the belt with the other champions, maybe against Sebastian Fundora who owned 2 belts.
and this is also good for his career because he needs to grow now and this fight will give him
more popularity and yeah may face bigger names in the future once he make this win favoring him.
It is a legacy bout for Terrence Crawford and he can fulfill his dream of adding records to his career by becoming a champion in a heavier division this is his way of proving that he is the best pound-per-pound boxer in the world. I want to witness him taking those huge challenges to become the next champion and also a possible unified champion because of how strong and skillful knockout artist he is. Also, I would like to watch Isaac Cruz get back to the ring to fight again since Mini-Tyson is getting popular nowadays due to his peekaboo style which has some similarities with Mike.
yup, as he is growing older he needs to add more flavor to His career readying for the future.
Will also vote for Crawford in this fight though.


Title: Re: Israil Madrimov vs Terrence Crawford
Post by: Dave1 on April 26, 2024, 09:06:44 AM
It is a legacy bout for Terrence Crawford and he can fulfill his dream of adding records to his career by becoming a champion in a heavier division this is his way of proving that he is the best pound-per-pound boxer in the world. I want to witness him taking those huge challenges to become the next champion and also a possible unified champion because of how strong and skillful knockout artist he is. Also, I would like to watch Isaac Cruz get back to the ring to fight again since Mini-Tyson is getting popular nowadays due to his peekaboo style which has some similarities with Mike.

This is a good fight for Terrence Crawford, new set of challenge and so another belt will he is, here is the highlight of Madrimov vs Kurbanov

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiQ4ko1yciM

You'll the judge if he has a chance against Crawford or not. But for me, Crawford is still in his prime and so I doubt that the style of tools Madrimov have is enough to defeat even if this is 154 lbs. So good choice of Crawford to fight him, just like when Manny is going up in weight, careful match making of the champion and then Manny will just walk down the champion and annexed their belt.


Title: Re: Israil Madrimov vs Terrence Crawford
Post by: inthelongrun on April 26, 2024, 09:25:35 AM
Here is the press conference,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5rTN-Xs_rE

So for now there is no trash talking, seems that Madrimov is respectful. But we all know that this is two warriors so as the fight get's close we might see some trash talking. I would agree that this fight looks good in paper, but I think Crawford will win and then face Spence later.

Most fighters from the former Soviet Union are honorable and respectful but very tough. I think Bud was trying to get the attention of Madrimov during the faceoff but it was ignored like nonsense. :D I remember Tyson Fury and Adrien Broner trying to start a drama against Usyk and Pacman but to no effect.

I also think Bud can land his powerful counters on Madrimov. But then it depends if Bud has enough speed and power to hurt the bigger and younger guy. Madrimov is not yet popular in the western world which is why the odds are too wide but I'm still excited in this fight.


Title: Re: Israil Madrimov vs Terrence Crawford
Post by: Dave1 on April 27, 2024, 08:49:47 AM
Here is the press conference,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5rTN-Xs_rE

So for now there is no trash talking, seems that Madrimov is respectful. But we all know that this is two warriors so as the fight get's close we might see some trash talking. I would agree that this fight looks good in paper, but I think Crawford will win and then face Spence later.

Most fighters from the former Soviet Union are honorable and respectful but very tough. I think Bud was trying to get the attention of Madrimov during the faceoff but it was ignored like nonsense. :D I remember Tyson Fury and Adrien Broner trying to start a drama against Usyk and Pacman but to no effect.

I also think Bud can land his powerful counters on Madrimov. But then it depends if Bud has enough speed and power to hurt the bigger and younger guy. Madrimov is not yet popular in the western world which is why the odds are too wide but I'm still excited in this fight.

Or maybe there is also this language barrier? I do agree though, I remember the Maidana vs Broner, wherein Broner was really trash talking, but Maidana didn't bite anything as obviously he didn't understand what Broner is saying but it's way below the belt. But it was the classic example of trash talking gone wrong, Lol.

I think Bud will have no problems at 154 lbs, although with just eye balling Madrimov, he looks bigger and stronger. But I think Bud will figure him out in about 2-3 rounds and then go counter all night and I wouldn't be surprised that he will utilized his upper-cut here.


Title: Re: Israil Madrimov vs Terrence Crawford
Post by: Baofeng on April 27, 2024, 12:03:57 PM
Here is the press conference,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5rTN-Xs_rE

So for now there is no trash talking, seems that Madrimov is respectful. But we all know that this is two warriors so as the fight get's close we might see some trash talking. I would agree that this fight looks good in paper, but I think Crawford will win and then face Spence later.

Most fighters from the former Soviet Union are honorable and respectful but very tough. I think Bud was trying to get the attention of Madrimov during the faceoff but it was ignored like nonsense. :D I remember Tyson Fury and Adrien Broner trying to start a drama against Usyk and Pacman but to no effect.

Bivol and Beterbiev is also with the same attitude, probably it's mostly American that really trash talk to sell the fights. Manny Pacquiao during his prime didn't trash talk even if he understand everything in English. And mostly this boxers rely on this fight to do the talking.

I also think Bud can land his powerful counters on Madrimov. But then it depends if Bud has enough speed and power to hurt the bigger and younger guy. Madrimov is not yet popular in the western world which is why the odds are too wide but I'm still excited in this fight.

True, Bud's counter is underrated, but we have seen it in many of his fights, that he can read his opponents and then adjust during the fight, similar to Floyd. Madrimov hasn't seen a fighter in Bud's caliber so he might be in for a big surprised when he can't land his power punches, specially his jumping left hook.


Title: Re: Israil Madrimov vs Terrence Crawford
Post by: robelneo on April 27, 2024, 02:13:18 PM


True, Bud's counter is underrated, but we have seen it in many of his fights, that he can read his opponents and then adjust during the fight, similar to Floyd. Madrimov hasn't seen a fighter in Bud's caliber so he might be in for a big surprised when he can't land his power punches, specially his jumping left hook.

It's good that Terrence is exploring territory after beating Spence right now Terrence has a level of invincibility, he was so perfect in his fight against Spence if he shows the same form as he did against Errol Israil will be in big trouble.
Terrence is already 36 years he should be more aggressive to establish his legacy and a fight with the Charlos will establish his legacy and if a possible fight with Canelo is something to look forward to in the future.


Title: Re: Israil Madrimov vs Terrence Crawford
Post by: Kemarit on April 27, 2024, 09:50:14 PM


True, Bud's counter is underrated, but we have seen it in many of his fights, that he can read his opponents and then adjust during the fight, similar to Floyd. Madrimov hasn't seen a fighter in Bud's caliber so he might be in for a big surprised when he can't land his power punches, specially his jumping left hook.

It's good that Terrence is exploring territory after beating Spence right now Terrence has a level of invincibility, he was so perfect in his fight against Spence if he shows the same form as he did against Errol Israil will be in big trouble.
Terrence is already 36 years he should be more aggressive to establish his legacy and a fight with the Charlos will establish his legacy and if a possible fight with Canelo is something to look forward to in the future.

Mate, he already cemented his legacy already, he is the first boxer to unify all the belts in 2 division, at 140 and 147 lbs. Inoue followed suit as well at 118-122 lbs. So even if he retires now, his name is already in the history of boxing, he already secured his future.

So a win here will make him a 154 lbs and maybe his next target will be Charlo or Fundora or Tim Tszyu. And obviously, this is stay busy fight just to avoid ring inactivity for Crawford. And to boot, he will be fighting for the belt, so very favorable for him.


Title: Re: Israil Madrimov vs Terrence Crawford
Post by: aioc on April 28, 2024, 11:14:46 AM


So a win here will make him a 154 lbs and maybe his next target will be Charlo or Fundora or Tim Tszyu. And obviously, this is stay busy fight just to avoid ring inactivity for Crawford. And to boot, he will be fighting for the belt, so very favorable for him.

This is going to be an easy win for Crawford and will establish his presence in the 154 lbs and I don't think these names will be a threat to Crawford, I followed many fights of Crawford and he shows perfection both in power and skill something that is lacking on those names.

Crawford has never been challenged in all his fights, but he keeps getting better as he gets older, if ever he goes further in weight is there a possibility that Canelo meet him in the ring, I hate it when Canelo makes another excuse to beat first top fighters in his division before going against him.


Title: Re: Israil Madrimov vs Terrence Crawford
Post by: Psynthax on April 28, 2024, 11:40:21 AM


So a win here will make him a 154 lbs and maybe his next target will be Charlo or Fundora or Tim Tszyu. And obviously, this is stay busy fight just to avoid ring inactivity for Crawford. And to boot, he will be fighting for the belt, so very favorable for him.

This is going to be an easy win for Crawford and will establish his presence in the 154 lbs and I don't think these names will be a threat to Crawford, I followed many fights of Crawford and he shows perfection both in power and skill something that is lacking on those names.

Crawford has never been challenged in all his fights, but he keeps getting better as he gets older, if ever he goes further in weight is there a possibility that Canelo meet him in the ring, I hate it when Canelo makes another excuse to beat first top fighters in his division before going against him.
crawford gonna win but i doubt its gonna be easy win even madrimov himself already had over 300 amateur fights, but it gonna be great to show dominance of terrence crawford since we all know he is more experienced and versatile anyway crawford needs to watch out for madrimov punch as well just to not underestimate it, but i think seeing the previous matches from madrimov on youtube i can assume that he still has many weakness showing such as lax defense if i were to bet i'd bet on crawford full on.
this match we will see how madrimov could fare against crawford I doubt he could do much though but i'm pretty sure he could hold on until few rounds then getting KO'd probably thats just my rough guess though since crawford got the reach advantage here. we will see how crawford gonna stomp.


Title: Re: Israil Madrimov vs Terrence Crawford
Post by: inthelongrun on May 02, 2024, 06:23:40 AM
Multiple sources are saying that Deontay Wilder agreed to fight Top Rank's hottest undefeated prospect Jared Anderson who owned a 17-0-15 KOs record. It will be added on the already stacked August 3 card in LA headlined by Crawford and Madrimov which is also organized by Saudi's Alashik. Wilder is already 38 while Anderson is still 24. The experience will surely favor Wilder but he's got low level skills. I think Anderson will be slightly favored by the oddsmakers here. He is young, strong, heavy handed but I still consider him raw and this will be his biggest fight of his career so far.

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Title: Re: Israil Madrimov vs Terrence Crawford
Post by: Baofeng on May 02, 2024, 08:34:03 PM


So a win here will make him a 154 lbs and maybe his next target will be Charlo or Fundora or Tim Tszyu. And obviously, this is stay busy fight just to avoid ring inactivity for Crawford. And to boot, he will be fighting for the belt, so very favorable for him.

This is going to be an easy win for Crawford and will establish his presence in the 154 lbs and I don't think these names will be a threat to Crawford, I followed many fights of Crawford and he shows perfection both in power and skill something that is lacking on those names.

The odds say Madrimov si almost 5:1 underdog in this fight, so yeah it could be a very easy but intriguing fight for Crawford. As others said, get busy for him this year and then wait for his options at 154 lbs as they might be thinking of going after the weakest champion in Fundora.

Crawford has never been challenged in all his fights, but he keeps getting better as he gets older, if ever he goes further in weight is there a possibility that Canelo meet him in the ring, I hate it when Canelo makes another excuse to beat first top fighters in his division before going against him.

He has been challenged though, but he keep on improving in every fight. Canelo already said that he is not interested at a Crawford fight. Although we all know in boxing that everything is possible if the money is right.


Title: Re: Israil Madrimov vs Terrence Crawford
Post by: TravelMug on May 03, 2024, 11:34:45 AM
Multiple sources are saying that Deontay Wilder agreed to fight Top Rank's hottest undefeated prospect Jared Anderson who owned a 17-0-15 KOs record. It will be added on the already stacked August 3 card in LA headlined by Crawford and Madrimov which is also organized by Saudi's Alashik. Wilder is already 38 while Anderson is still 24. The experience will surely favor Wilder but he's got low level skills. I think Anderson will be slightly favored by the oddsmakers here. He is young, strong, heavy handed but I still consider him raw and this will be his biggest fight of his career so far.

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I thought that Wilder will be fighting Zhang? So are they overlooking Zhang in his fight and thinks that he will be easy for him and then fight next Jared Anderson in the undercard of this fight? And obviously if Zhang wins then Wilder could be out of the picture again. And if we look at the betting odds, Zhang is the favorite if I'm not mistaken. Not sure what's the negotiation behind. But it's better for Wilder to focus on his fight against Zhang first before his camp talks about fighting the undefeated boxer in Anderson.


Title: Re: Israil Madrimov vs Terrence Crawford
Post by: robelneo on May 03, 2024, 02:36:27 PM

I thought that Wilder will be fighting Zhang? So are they overlooking Zhang in his fight and thinks that he will be easy for him and then fight next Jared Anderson in the undercard of this fight? And obviously if Zhang wins then Wilder could be out of the picture again. And if we look at the betting odds, Zhang is the favorite if I'm not mistaken. Not sure what's the negotiation behind. But it's better for Wilder to focus on his fight against Zhang first before his camp talks about fighting the undefeated boxer in Anderson.

Yes he is fighting Zhang in fact, he is training hard right now to get into contention again check out this video here 

FIRED UP Deontay Wilder sends WARNING to Zhilei Zhang! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MC6EfaYBg44)

I don't think he is taking Zhang for granted after what happened in his last fight against Parker, he cannot take anyone for granted, he knows what Zhang is capable of doing and he knows that Zhang is a technical boxer so he needs to improve his stamina and bring back that Brown Bomber power he was known for, Wilder cannot lose this fight or people will count him out.


Title: Re: Israil Madrimov vs Terrence Crawford
Post by: btc_angela on May 03, 2024, 03:26:11 PM

I thought that Wilder will be fighting Zhang? So are they overlooking Zhang in his fight and thinks that he will be easy for him and then fight next Jared Anderson in the undercard of this fight? And obviously if Zhang wins then Wilder could be out of the picture again. And if we look at the betting odds, Zhang is the favorite if I'm not mistaken. Not sure what's the negotiation behind. But it's better for Wilder to focus on his fight against Zhang first before his camp talks about fighting the undefeated boxer in Anderson.

Yes he is fighting Zhang in fact, he is training hard right now to get into contention again check out this video here 

FIRED UP Deontay Wilder sends WARNING to Zhilei Zhang! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MC6EfaYBg44)

I don't think he is taking Zhang for granted after what happened in his last fight against Parker, he cannot take anyone for granted, he knows what Zhang is capable of doing and he knows that Zhang is a technical boxer so he needs to improve his stamina and bring back that Brown Bomber power he was known for, Wilder cannot lose this fight or people will count him out.

It's a very important fight for Wilder, this is a comeback fight for him, or at least a win will put his name slowly in the contention again. Before it was only the 3 of them, Fury, Wilder and AJ.

But Usyk came into the picture and his losses against Fury put him into a tough spot. Now after a big lost against Parker, he will be fighting Zhang, which is a difficult matchup for him. So he better win first before talking about Anderson.


Title: Re: Israil Madrimov vs Terrence Crawford
Post by: blckhawk on May 03, 2024, 03:36:36 PM
It's good that Terrence is exploring territory after beating Spence right now Terrence has a level of invincibility, he was so perfect in his fight against Spence if he shows the same form as he did against Errol Israil will be in big trouble.
Terrence is already 36 years he should be more aggressive to establish his legacy and a fight with the Charlos will establish his legacy and if a possible fight with Canelo is something to look forward to in the future.
Madrimov isn't an opponent that Terrence will have to underestimate, his demeanor and fighting style in my opinion looks like the kind that deceives you into thinking that you're going to beat it, plus his power seems to be much more than Terrence so I'm still on the neutral when it comes to this one, seems to me that this is going to be big fight though, really good line ups to the main event, I'm excited for the Latin fighters because it seems to me that there's going to be resurgence of more Latin fighters after all these years.


Title: Re: Israil Madrimov vs Terrence Crawford
Post by: inthelongrun on May 04, 2024, 02:46:17 AM
Crawford has never been challenged in all his fights, but he keeps getting better as he gets older, if ever he goes further in weight is there a possibility that Canelo meet him in the ring, I hate it when Canelo makes another excuse to beat first top fighters in his division before going against him.

He has been challenged though, but he keep on improving in every fight. Canelo already said that he is not interested at a Crawford fight. Although we all know in boxing that everything is possible if the money is right.

Crawford is just way too good. Tough chin, good skills and has the power to hurt opponents. But there were actually times he struggled and then made adjustments to secure his undefeated record. Old Gamboa was constantly hitting him before Bud hurt the Cuban. Kavaliauskas hurt him bad, Porter and Avanesyan somehow gave him problems before solving the puzzles.

If Canelo gives Bud a shot, I think Canelo stops him. Canelo is in his 30s but is well experienced in the heavier divisions. I doubt Bud's 36 year-old body can survive the onslaught unless Canelo is contented of outpointing and keeping himself safe. Anyways, Bud has already earned his ticket to the Hall of Fame in the future. First ever 2 division undisputed in the 4-belt era, 3 division lineal champion and he might get his 4th division belt if he beats Madrimov.


Title: Re: Israil Madrimov vs Terrence Crawford
Post by: FinneysTrueVision on May 04, 2024, 10:51:27 AM
Multiple sources are saying that Deontay Wilder agreed to fight Top Rank's hottest undefeated prospect Jared Anderson who owned a 17-0-15 KOs record. It will be added on the already stacked August 3 card in LA headlined by Crawford and Madrimov which is also organized by Saudi's Alashik. Wilder is already 38 while Anderson is still 24. The experience will surely favor Wilder but he's got low level skills. I think Anderson will be slightly favored by the oddsmakers here. He is young, strong, heavy handed but I still consider him raw and this will be his biggest fight of his career so far.

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Anderson’s last fight was one of the worst I’ve seen in a long time. If he doesn’t make any improvements, and just shows up to collect a paycheck, Wilder is going to knock him out. It is still good to see him tested so early in his career. Fighting somebody like Wilder could be the motivation he needs to prove what he is capable of and it should also be a reason to stay disciplined and out of legal trouble, which he has struggled to do these past few months.


Title: Re: Israil Madrimov vs Terrence Crawford
Post by: TravelMug on May 04, 2024, 10:52:49 AM
It's good that Terrence is exploring territory after beating Spence right now Terrence has a level of invincibility, he was so perfect in his fight against Spence if he shows the same form as he did against Errol Israil will be in big trouble.
Terrence is already 36 years he should be more aggressive to establish his legacy and a fight with the Charlos will establish his legacy and if a possible fight with Canelo is something to look forward to in the future.
Madrimov isn't an opponent that Terrence will have to underestimate, his demeanor and fighting style in my opinion looks like the kind that deceives you into thinking that you're going to beat it, plus his power seems to be much more than Terrence so I'm still on the neutral when it comes to this one, seems to me that this is going to be big fight though, really good line ups to the main event, I'm excited for the Latin fighters because it seems to me that there's going to be resurgence of more Latin fighters after all these years.

Base on Crawford's attitude though, I don't think he ever underestimated any of his opponents. On the contrary, he seems to be pump when there is trash talking like in his fight against Benavidez Jr. Also the same when there is respect like in the Spence fight. So either way, he will destroy anyone in front of him and I wouldn't be surprised if he will score a knockout against a formidable opponent in Madrimov. However, I don't understand what you mean by Latin fighters, Israil Madrimov is from Uzbekistan. And if my history is correct, he lives in Central Asia.


Title: Re: Israil Madrimov vs Terrence Crawford
Post by: Viscore on May 04, 2024, 11:20:45 AM

If Canelo gives Bud a shot, I think Canelo stops him. Canelo is in his 30s but is well experienced in the heavier divisions. I doubt Bud's 36 year-old body can survive the onslaught unless Canelo is contented of outpointing and keeping himself safe. Anyways, Bud has already earned his ticket to the Hall of Fame in the future. First ever 2 division undisputed in the 4-belt era, 3 division lineal champion and he might get his 4th division belt if he beats Madrimov.

They better make it happen though, it's not about who is stronger as Crawford knows how to adjust in the fight. Maybe he'll use his quickness over Canelo, just like Mayweather did to Canelo but will he succeed on that? we will find out.

First, they need to make the fight happen, I think they have already hype this fight already and even if they ddin't they are still gonna sell this fight easy since both fighters are very popular now.


Title: Re: Israil Madrimov vs Terrence Crawford
Post by: Baofeng on May 04, 2024, 12:37:32 PM
Crawford has never been challenged in all his fights, but he keeps getting better as he gets older, if ever he goes further in weight is there a possibility that Canelo meet him in the ring, I hate it when Canelo makes another excuse to beat first top fighters in his division before going against him.

He has been challenged though, but he keep on improving in every fight. Canelo already said that he is not interested at a Crawford fight. Although we all know in boxing that everything is possible if the money is right.

Crawford is just way too good. Tough chin, good skills and has the power to hurt opponents. But there were actually times he struggled and then made adjustments to secure his undefeated record. Old Gamboa was constantly hitting him before Bud hurt the Cuban. Kavaliauskas hurt him bad, Porter and Avanesyan somehow gave him problems before solving the puzzles.

And that is that the hallmark of a great champion right? Able to adjust in the fight itself, like Floyd Mayweather in the Mosley fight. He was hit by Mosley and I thought that he will go down and lose that fight.

If Canelo gives Bud a shot, I think Canelo stops him. Canelo is in his 30s but is well experienced in the heavier divisions. I doubt Bud's 36 year-old body can survive the onslaught unless Canelo is contented of outpointing and keeping himself safe. Anyways, Bud has already earned his ticket to the Hall of Fame in the future. First ever 2 division undisputed in the 4-belt era, 3 division lineal champion and he might get his 4th division belt if he beats Madrimov.

Canelo is too big for Crawford though, maybe just for his biggest paycheck he might want to test himself out. But now he had a good chance to become a champion at super welterweight so this is the easy route for him instead of chasing Canelo. But what we wanted to see is the rematch with Spence, but it seems that Spence has his own problems to deal first.


Title: Re: Israil Madrimov vs Terrence Crawford
Post by: acroman08 on May 04, 2024, 06:40:10 PM
picked Terrence to win by TKO just because I know him more than Israil Madrimov, but seeing Israil's boxing record, it's quite impressive how he already has a title belt when he despite only having 12 pro fights. I am curious to see how Israil Madrimov will fair against Terrence and how Terrence will fair against this young boxer.

After all the failed talks about Crawford and Spence rematch.
I am still a bit salty about this, I really want to see them fight again.


Title: Re: Israil Madrimov vs Terrence Crawford
Post by: darkangel11 on May 04, 2024, 07:03:28 PM
Crawford has much more experience, better score, more to lose. Madrimov is still a newcomer when it comes to pro fights.
IMO Crawford is going to be very well prepared and harder to counter since he's a southpaw and you don't get a lot of good sparing opponents who excel in this stance, so Madrimov is going to have much less experience in fighting southpaws than Crawford vs orthodox fighters.


Title: Re: Israil Madrimov vs Terrence Crawford
Post by: robelneo on May 07, 2024, 04:18:34 PM
Crawford has much more experience, better score, more to lose. Madrimov is still a newcomer when it comes to pro fights.
IMO Crawford is going to be very well prepared and harder to counter since he's a southpaw and you don't get a lot of good sparing opponents who excel in this stance, so Madrimov is going to have much less experience in fighting southpaws than Crawford vs orthodox fighters.

Whatever Madrimov does in the ring Crawford is ready for that, you're not an elite if you do not have multiple plans or the ability to shift in the fight, after the Spence fight I consider Crawford a flawless fighter, can you imagine a fighter who was considered his co-equal getting knockdown by his jab.

Madrimov is not better than Spence so we can conclude that it will be a much easier fight for Crawford, Crawford needs to fight level-A fighters now after the Spence fight fighting other unknown names is not attractive anymore, so I expect him to fight any of the Charlo or Canelo, so let's see.


Title: Re: Israil Madrimov vs Terrence Crawford
Post by: TravelMug on May 07, 2024, 08:51:28 PM
Crawford has much more experience, better score, more to lose. Madrimov is still a newcomer when it comes to pro fights.
IMO Crawford is going to be very well prepared and harder to counter since he's a southpaw and you don't get a lot of good sparing opponents who excel in this stance, so Madrimov is going to have much less experience in fighting southpaws than Crawford vs orthodox fighters.

Whatever Madrimov does in the ring Crawford is ready for that, you're not an elite if you do not have multiple plans or the ability to shift in the fight, after the Spence fight I consider Crawford a flawless fighter, can you imagine a fighter who was considered his co-equal getting knockdown by his jab.

Madrimov is not better than Spence so we can conclude that it will be a much easier fight for Crawford, Crawford needs to fight level-A fighters now after the Spence fight fighting other unknown names is not attractive anymore, so I expect him to fight any of the Charlo or Canelo, so let's see.

Charlo will be a big fight for Crawford, I mean he has been taunting them in the crowds during his win against Spence. And now that Spence is out of Derrick James maybe we can also see him moving up at 154 lbs and fight the Charlo as well. So there is a big changes in the landscape at super welterweight now as we can see previous friends fighting for the belt as well. So we will see. As far as this fight, yes, he will go against Madrimov, try to test his power and do some feint to test how he will move. But after that, Crawford will go in his beast mode and I wouldn't be surprised to see a knockout win by him again against a tough Madrimov by the middle or late rounds.


Title: Re: Israil Madrimov vs Terrence Crawford
Post by: inthelongrun on May 08, 2024, 07:55:49 AM
Crawford has much more experience, better score, more to lose. Madrimov is still a newcomer when it comes to pro fights.
IMO Crawford is going to be very well prepared and harder to counter since he's a southpaw and you don't get a lot of good sparing opponents who excel in this stance, so Madrimov is going to have much less experience in fighting southpaws than Crawford vs orthodox fighters.

Whatever Madrimov does in the ring Crawford is ready for that, you're not an elite if you do not have multiple plans or the ability to shift in the fight, after the Spence fight I consider Crawford a flawless fighter, can you imagine a fighter who was considered his co-equal getting knockdown by his jab.

Madrimov is not better than Spence so we can conclude that it will be a much easier fight for Crawford, Crawford needs to fight level-A fighters now after the Spence fight fighting other unknown names is not attractive anymore, so I expect him to fight any of the Charlo or Canelo, so let's see.

Charlo will be a big fight for Crawford, I mean he has been taunting them in the crowds during his win against Spence. And now that Spence is out of Derrick James maybe we can also see him moving up at 154 lbs and fight the Charlo as well. So there is a big changes in the landscape at super welterweight now as we can see previous friends fighting for the belt as well. So we will see. As far as this fight, yes, he will go against Madrimov, try to test his power and do some feint to test how he will move. But after that, Crawford will go in his beast mode and I wouldn't be surprised to see a knockout win by him again against a tough Madrimov by the middle or late rounds.

I am excited in this fight. We will see how WBA champion Madrimov fares against one of the best in the sport right now. Crawford is once again trying to add more in his legacy by becoming a 4 division champion if he wins here.

We'll see what's next for Crawford after this. At the moment, both Spence and Jermell have no belts and won't add anything on Crawford's legacy except money. The winner of Madrimov and Crawford will also get the WBO interim which can be turned into a mandatory to WBO and WBC champion Sebastian Fundora. Also, Turki Al-Sheikh of Saudi already hinted of wanting to make Crawford vs Canelo by December or January next year in the US.


Title: Re: Israil Madrimov vs Terrence Crawford
Post by: Dave1 on May 14, 2024, 11:26:05 AM
Crawford has much more experience, better score, more to lose. Madrimov is still a newcomer when it comes to pro fights.
IMO Crawford is going to be very well prepared and harder to counter since he's a southpaw and you don't get a lot of good sparing opponents who excel in this stance, so Madrimov is going to have much less experience in fighting southpaws than Crawford vs orthodox fighters.

Whatever Madrimov does in the ring Crawford is ready for that, you're not an elite if you do not have multiple plans or the ability to shift in the fight, after the Spence fight I consider Crawford a flawless fighter, can you imagine a fighter who was considered his co-equal getting knockdown by his jab.

Madrimov is not better than Spence so we can conclude that it will be a much easier fight for Crawford, Crawford needs to fight level-A fighters now after the Spence fight fighting other unknown names is not attractive anymore, so I expect him to fight any of the Charlo or Canelo, so let's see.

Yes, if we have look at the previous fights of Madrimov, he is more of a powerful puncher and I think Crawford had deal a lot of this type of boxers in his career and he was able to adjust in the middle of the fight to even win by knockout himself.

I read some interview of him that when he was caught by Spence with that right hand, and he said in the line like "is that it", meaning he was able to take the best punch of Spence and he was not affected or even get wobbled by it. What I'm trying to say is that I think Crawford can take the best punch of his opponent and he can also dish one as well to stop or knock them down.


Title: Re: Israil Madrimov vs Terrence Crawford
Post by: Questat on May 14, 2024, 12:57:59 PM
Crawford has much more experience, better score, more to lose. Madrimov is still a newcomer when it comes to pro fights.
IMO Crawford is going to be very well prepared and harder to counter since he's a southpaw and you don't get a lot of good sparing opponents who excel in this stance, so Madrimov is going to have much less experience in fighting southpaws than Crawford vs orthodox fighters.

Whatever Madrimov does in the ring Crawford is ready for that, you're not an elite if you do not have multiple plans or the ability to shift in the fight, after the Spence fight I consider Crawford a flawless fighter, can you imagine a fighter who was considered his co-equal getting knockdown by his jab.

Madrimov is not better than Spence so we can conclude that it will be a much easier fight for Crawford, Crawford needs to fight level-A fighters now after the Spence fight fighting other unknown names is not attractive anymore, so I expect him to fight any of the Charlo or Canelo, so let's see.

Yes, if we have look at the previous fights of Madrimov, he is more of a powerful puncher and I think Crawford had deal a lot of this type of boxers in his career and he was able to adjust in the middle of the fight to even win by knockout himself.

I read some interview of him that when he was caught by Spence with that right hand, and he said in the line like "is that it", meaning he was able to take the best punch of Spence and he was not affected or even get wobbled by it. What I'm trying to say is that I think Crawford can take the best punch of his opponent and he can also dish one as well to stop or knock them down.

Spence is a more powerful puncher than Madrimov based on his record, so if he could absorb the punches of Spence, then I guess Madrimov has no chance of knocking out Crawford here. Honestly, I was surprise that Crawford would fight this guy, I mean after beating Spence, the hype is high for him, so he shoudl be pursuing for a bigger fight so he'll continue to soar. No offense to the fans, but this one looks like a tune up fight IMO.


Title: Re: Israil Madrimov vs Terrence Crawford
Post by: inthelongrun on May 15, 2024, 06:11:44 AM
Crawford has much more experience, better score, more to lose. Madrimov is still a newcomer when it comes to pro fights.
IMO Crawford is going to be very well prepared and harder to counter since he's a southpaw and you don't get a lot of good sparing opponents who excel in this stance, so Madrimov is going to have much less experience in fighting southpaws than Crawford vs orthodox fighters.

Whatever Madrimov does in the ring Crawford is ready for that, you're not an elite if you do not have multiple plans or the ability to shift in the fight, after the Spence fight I consider Crawford a flawless fighter, can you imagine a fighter who was considered his co-equal getting knockdown by his jab.

Madrimov is not better than Spence so we can conclude that it will be a much easier fight for Crawford, Crawford needs to fight level-A fighters now after the Spence fight fighting other unknown names is not attractive anymore, so I expect him to fight any of the Charlo or Canelo, so let's see.

Yes, if we have look at the previous fights of Madrimov, he is more of a powerful puncher and I think Crawford had deal a lot of this type of boxers in his career and he was able to adjust in the middle of the fight to even win by knockout himself.

I read some interview of him that when he was caught by Spence with that right hand, and he said in the line like "is that it", meaning he was able to take the best punch of Spence and he was not affected or even get wobbled by it. What I'm trying to say is that I think Crawford can take the best punch of his opponent and he can also dish one as well to stop or knock them down.

Spence is a more powerful puncher than Madrimov based on his record, so if he could absorb the punches of Spence, then I guess Madrimov has no chance of knocking out Crawford here. Honestly, I was surprise that Crawford would fight this guy, I mean after beating Spence, the hype is high for him, so he shoudl be pursuing for a bigger fight so he'll continue to soar. No offense to the fans, but this one looks like a tune up fight IMO.

Prime for prime Bud should be able to handle Madrimov. The only factor Madrimov having advantage here is the Bud's age and his first time fighting in this division.

Moneywise this is not much of a big fight for Crawford. The quality undercards are the reasons why this PPV event might get 400k or more buys. But legacy wise this is way bigger than beltless Charlo and Spence. Madrimov is not popular among casual fans but I'll bet to him over Spence. Bud has a chance to become a 4 division world champion here plus the mandatory status to WBO-WBC champion Sebastian Fundora. And if he wins against Madrimov and Fundora then there's only the IBF belt left remaining to become the first ever 2 and 3 division undisputed. And it is also very doable to stage knowing the deep pockets of Alalshikh. Although Alalshikh also hinted of pitting Bud and Canelo this December which is also a very good a big fight.


Title: Re: Israil Madrimov vs Terrence Crawford
Post by: rodskee on May 15, 2024, 06:31:07 AM
It's good that Terrence is exploring territory after beating Spence right now Terrence has a level of invincibility, he was so perfect in his fight against Spence if he shows the same form as he did against Errol Israil will be in big trouble.
Terrence is already 36 years he should be more aggressive to establish his legacy and a fight with the Charlos will establish his legacy and if a possible fight with Canelo is something to look forward to in the future.
Madrimov isn't an opponent that Terrence will have to underestimate, his demeanor and fighting style in my opinion looks like the kind that deceives you into thinking that you're going to beat it, plus his power seems to be much more than Terrence so I'm still on the neutral when it comes to this one, seems to me that this is going to be big fight though, really good line ups to the main event, I'm excited for the Latin fighters because it seems to me that there's going to be resurgence of more Latin fighters after all these years.
exactly Madrimov is silent type that can explode inside the ring but if we will look into the
votes it is al for Crawford so this will hurt many if happen that madrimov wins in this fight  ;D
so being neutral will save us , but if you are to bet ? whom are you betting in this fight mate?
Crawford has much more experience, better score, more to lose. Madrimov is still a newcomer when it comes to pro fights.
IMO Crawford is going to be very well prepared and harder to counter since he's a southpaw and you don't get a lot of good sparing opponents who excel in this stance, so Madrimov is going to have much less experience in fighting southpaws than Crawford vs orthodox fighters.

Whatever Madrimov does in the ring Crawford is ready for that, you're not an elite if you do not have multiple plans or the ability to shift in the fight, after the Spence fight I consider Crawford a flawless fighter, can you imagine a fighter who was considered his co-equal getting knockdown by his jab.

Madrimov is not better than Spence so we can conclude that it will be a much easier fight for Crawford, Crawford needs to fight level-A fighters now after the Spence fight fighting other unknown names is not attractive anymore, so I expect him to fight any of the Charlo or Canelo, so let's see.
yet , One punch can bring the opponent down so best for Crawford to never look behind
because this can change in a single punch.


Title: Re: Israil Madrimov vs Terrence Crawford
Post by: TravelMug on May 15, 2024, 12:19:37 PM
Crawford has much more experience, better score, more to lose. Madrimov is still a newcomer when it comes to pro fights.
IMO Crawford is going to be very well prepared and harder to counter since he's a southpaw and you don't get a lot of good sparing opponents who excel in this stance, so Madrimov is going to have much less experience in fighting southpaws than Crawford vs orthodox fighters.

Whatever Madrimov does in the ring Crawford is ready for that, you're not an elite if you do not have multiple plans or the ability to shift in the fight, after the Spence fight I consider Crawford a flawless fighter, can you imagine a fighter who was considered his co-equal getting knockdown by his jab.

Madrimov is not better than Spence so we can conclude that it will be a much easier fight for Crawford, Crawford needs to fight level-A fighters now after the Spence fight fighting other unknown names is not attractive anymore, so I expect him to fight any of the Charlo or Canelo, so let's see.

Charlo will be a big fight for Crawford, I mean he has been taunting them in the crowds during his win against Spence. And now that Spence is out of Derrick James maybe we can also see him moving up at 154 lbs and fight the Charlo as well. So there is a big changes in the landscape at super welterweight now as we can see previous friends fighting for the belt as well. So we will see. As far as this fight, yes, he will go against Madrimov, try to test his power and do some feint to test how he will move. But after that, Crawford will go in his beast mode and I wouldn't be surprised to see a knockout win by him again against a tough Madrimov by the middle or late rounds.

I am excited in this fight. We will see how WBA champion Madrimov fares against one of the best in the sport right now. Crawford is once again trying to add more in his legacy by becoming a 4 division champion if he wins here.

And it will be interesting on how Crawford picks Madrimov as weakest champion of this division if I'm not mistaken.

We'll see what's next for Crawford after this. At the moment, both Spence and Jermell have no belts and won't add anything on Crawford's legacy except money. The winner of Madrimov and Crawford will also get the WBO interim which can be turned into a mandatory to WBO and WBC champion Sebastian Fundora. Also, Turki Al-Sheikh of Saudi already hinted of wanting to make Crawford vs Canelo by December or January next year in the US.

There are two things that I'm seeing here:

1. Crawford unifying all the belts at 154 lbs and again setting another boxing record for unifying 3 weight classes
2. Doesn't care about the belts anymore, and then just go for money fights as we all know that he is not getting any younger as well.

So we will see what his best move after winning and becoming 4 weight class champion.


Title: Re: Israil Madrimov vs Terrence Crawford
Post by: FinneysTrueVision on May 16, 2024, 04:56:48 AM
And it will be interesting on how Crawford picks Madrimov as weakest champion of this division if I'm not mistaken.

There are two things that I'm seeing here:

1. Crawford unifying all the belts at 154 lbs and again setting another boxing record for unifying 3 weight classes
2. Doesn't care about the belts anymore, and then just go for money fights as we all know that he is not getting any younger as well.

So we will see what his best move after winning and becoming 4 weight class champion.

The endgame for Crawford seems to be getting a big money fight against Canelo. Becoming undisputed at 154 would be great and all, but the names in the division aren’t really all that attractive. The Fundora vs. Tszyu PPV only got around 20,000 buys, according to Rick Glaser, who is not very reliable but I can’t imagine the actual numbers being any better.

If the Saudis are bankrolling his career, they will want to make the biggest fights possible, and at the moment that would be Crawford vs. Canelo.


Title: Re: Israil Madrimov vs Terrence Crawford
Post by: btc_angela on May 16, 2024, 05:26:02 AM
And it will be interesting on how Crawford picks Madrimov as weakest champion of this division if I'm not mistaken.

There are two things that I'm seeing here:

1. Crawford unifying all the belts at 154 lbs and again setting another boxing record for unifying 3 weight classes
2. Doesn't care about the belts anymore, and then just go for money fights as we all know that he is not getting any younger as well.

So we will see what his best move after winning and becoming 4 weight class champion.

The endgame for Crawford seems to be getting a big money fight against Canelo. Becoming undisputed at 154 would be great and all, but the names in the division aren’t really all that attractive. The Fundora vs. Tszyu PPV only got around 20,000 buys, according to Rick Glaser, who is not very reliable but I can’t imagine the actual numbers being any better.

If the Saudis are bankrolling his career, they will want to make the biggest fights possible, and at the moment that would be Crawford vs. Canelo.

And when there is money, for sure Canelo will say yes to it. Although as this point he said that he doesn't want to fight Crawford and then the Saudi's are somewhat on the fence with Canelo as we can see, the Saudi broker is more on Beterbiev and Bivol and other fighters.

But in the side of Crawford, yeah, he is looking for big money fights, he has tasted it already with his win against Spence and obviously his biggest paycheck after he bolted out of Top Rank. Although fighting Madrimov is just for the title, but who knows, Charlo or Fundora could be interesting for fight fans to watch.


Title: Re: Israil Madrimov vs Terrence Crawford
Post by: Kelvinid on May 16, 2024, 07:34:48 AM
And it will be interesting on how Crawford picks Madrimov as weakest champion of this division if I'm not mistaken.

There are two things that I'm seeing here:

1. Crawford unifying all the belts at 154 lbs and again setting another boxing record for unifying 3 weight classes
2. Doesn't care about the belts anymore, and then just go for money fights as we all know that he is not getting any younger as well.

So we will see what his best move after winning and becoming 4 weight class champion.

The endgame for Crawford seems to be getting a big money fight against Canelo. Becoming undisputed at 154 would be great and all, but the names in the division aren’t really all that attractive. The Fundora vs. Tszyu PPV only got around 20,000 buys, according to Rick Glaser, who is not very reliable but I can’t imagine the actual numbers being any better.

If the Saudis are bankrolling his career, they will want to make the biggest fights possible, and at the moment that would be Crawford vs. Canelo.

And when there is money, for sure Canelo will say yes to it. Although as this point he said that he doesn't want to fight Crawford and then the Saudi's are somewhat on the fence with Canelo as we can see, the Saudi broker is more on Beterbiev and Bivol and other fighters.

But in the side of Crawford, yeah, he is looking for big money fights, he has tasted it already with his win against Spence and obviously his biggest paycheck after he bolted out of Top Rank. Although fighting Madrimov is just for the title, but who knows, Charlo or Fundora could be interesting for fight fans to watch.

At this point I think money is not the most important for Canelo as he can easily find an opponent that will ensure him big paycheck. However, based on my observation, he hasn't been fighting big names lately and as we can see, most of his recent wins are easy win. If he'll fight Crawford, that sure will bring a lot of money, but who would go down or go up? That's another thing as none of these two would fight not getting the advantage to win.


Title: Re: Israil Madrimov vs Terrence Crawford
Post by: bisdak40 on May 16, 2024, 08:17:24 AM
If the Saudis are bankrolling his career, they will want to make the biggest fights possible, and at the moment that would be Crawford vs. Canelo.

Yes, this could be the fight that Crawford wants before hanging his gloves for good. He is not getting younger anymore and this kind of opportunity is hard to pass up so we might see Canelo vs Crawford in Saudi with his excellency promoting this matchup.


Title: Re: Israil Madrimov vs Terrence Crawford
Post by: inthelongrun on May 16, 2024, 10:26:33 AM

And it will be interesting on how Crawford picks Madrimov as weakest champion of this division if I'm not mistaken.

If Madrimov cannot take Crawford's power shots then he is done. But we'll see. Madrimov is young, undefeated and probably bigger so it's a good test for Bud who's fighting at 154 for the first time. Crawford though has too much experience here except that he is turning 37 this year.

At the moment, all the current champions at 154 are yet to defend their belts. I considered ex WBO champ, Tszyu as the best but sadly he suffered a huge cut from an elbow and it cost his belt. So I think all the current champions are at 50/50 against each other.


Title: Re: Israil Madrimov vs Terrence Crawford
Post by: TravelMug on May 16, 2024, 10:45:25 AM

And it will be interesting on how Crawford picks Madrimov as weakest champion of this division if I'm not mistaken.

If Madrimov cannot take Crawford's power shots then he is done. But we'll see. Madrimov is young, undefeated and probably bigger so it's a good test for Bud who's fighting at 154 for the first time. Crawford though has too much experience here except that he is turning 37 this year.

Yes it will be Bud's first time at 154 lbs, but I don't think it will be an issue for him. Perhaps during the fight with Spence he could be very well above 154 lbs during fight night well rehydrated.

At the moment, all the current champions at 154 are yet to defend their belts. I considered ex WBO champ, Tszyu as the best but sadly he suffered a huge cut from an elbow and it cost his belt. So I think all the current champions are at 50/50 against each other.

It was really a huge upset when Fundora won a ugly fight with Tszyu. Maybe they will take a rematch and winner fighting the winner of Crawford vs Madrimov. That will be great for Crawford's legacy as he will get more belts at 154 lbs. But he will be looking for money fight I guess as he is not also getting any younger.


Title: Re: Israil Madrimov vs Terrence Crawford
Post by: btc_angela on May 17, 2024, 10:24:03 AM
And it will be interesting on how Crawford picks Madrimov as weakest champion of this division if I'm not mistaken.

There are two things that I'm seeing here:

1. Crawford unifying all the belts at 154 lbs and again setting another boxing record for unifying 3 weight classes
2. Doesn't care about the belts anymore, and then just go for money fights as we all know that he is not getting any younger as well.

So we will see what his best move after winning and becoming 4 weight class champion.

The endgame for Crawford seems to be getting a big money fight against Canelo. Becoming undisputed at 154 would be great and all, but the names in the division aren’t really all that attractive. The Fundora vs. Tszyu PPV only got around 20,000 buys, according to Rick Glaser, who is not very reliable but I can’t imagine the actual numbers being any better.

If the Saudis are bankrolling his career, they will want to make the biggest fights possible, and at the moment that would be Crawford vs. Canelo.

And when there is money, for sure Canelo will say yes to it. Although as this point he said that he doesn't want to fight Crawford and then the Saudi's are somewhat on the fence with Canelo as we can see, the Saudi broker is more on Beterbiev and Bivol and other fighters.

But in the side of Crawford, yeah, he is looking for big money fights, he has tasted it already with his win against Spence and obviously his biggest paycheck after he bolted out of Top Rank. Although fighting Madrimov is just for the title, but who knows, Charlo or Fundora could be interesting for fight fans to watch.

At this point I think money is not the most important for Canelo as he can easily find an opponent that will ensure him big paycheck. However, based on my observation, he hasn't been fighting big names lately and as we can see, most of his recent wins are easy win. If he'll fight Crawford, that sure will bring a lot of money, but who would go down or go up? That's another thing as none of these two would fight not getting the advantage to win.

I think otherwise though, yeah he could still fight, but we really don't know for how long, and that's why he is looking for opponents that will make him big money. And that's why he is fighting less name, the risk is low but he will get the lion share obviously, it would be as high as 80/20 split in his favor and then PPV and live gates.

That's why he is being criticized for not fighting Benavidez as the risk is very high for him and his team. And chooses the likes of Munguia and Berlanga next.

If ever they will fight, Crawford will have to go up or 168 lbs, no way that Canelo will risk to go down to even a catch weight.


Title: Re: Israil Madrimov vs Terrence Crawford
Post by: inthelongrun on May 21, 2024, 06:58:05 AM

And it will be interesting on how Crawford picks Madrimov as weakest champion of this division if I'm not mistaken.

If Madrimov cannot take Crawford's power shots then he is done. But we'll see. Madrimov is young, undefeated and probably bigger so it's a good test for Bud who's fighting at 154 for the first time. Crawford though has too much experience here except that he is turning 37 this year.

Yes it will be Bud's first time at 154 lbs, but I don't think it will be an issue for him. Perhaps during the fight with Spence he could be very well above 154 lbs during fight night well rehydrated.

Pretty sure Crawford rehydrated to around 160 lbs or more during the Spence fight. But he's most likely smaller in this new division because 154 fighters could reach 170 by fight night. Crawford has the skills and power but giving up too much weight during fight nights is too risky as well.

At the moment, all the current champions at 154 are yet to defend their belts. I considered ex WBO champ, Tszyu as the best but sadly he suffered a huge cut from an elbow and it cost his belt. So I think all the current champions are at 50/50 against each other.

It was really a huge upset when Fundora won a ugly fight with Tszyu. Maybe they will take a rematch and winner fighting the winner of Crawford vs Madrimov. That will be great for Crawford's legacy as he will get more belts at 154 lbs. But he will be looking for money fight I guess as he is not also getting any younger.

I felt bad for Tim. He was busting Fundora's face in the early rounds. I cannot even remember if Fundora won single round before his elbow opened a huge cut on Tim's head.

There's supposed to be an issue aftermath who's fighting Fundora next since Tim wanted to activate the rematch clause while the WBO announced Crawford as their mandatory. But all of a sudden Saudi's Alalshikh turned things differently. Bud all of a sudden will fight WBA champion, Madrimov while in the undercard Tim will fight GBP's undefeated prospect Vergil Ortiz.