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How true is this rumor? This is very popular on our local streamer comment section that streamers is just using a demo account with enhance winning rate on all slot games to showcase huge win while they are playing.

I knew that only slot game provider has the power to change the RTP of the slot games but some of the comment is from other streamers that has same experience on using demo account.

This is not new among streamers; a lot of them, unless they have a private deal with the casino, do streaming and promote their games online. If not, a lot of them make use of casinos with demo funding options.
 
If not, how on earth do you think they can be risking such a big amount of money? Most of them display in the screan just to prove what? What if the game doesn't go the way they expected? If the money is all gone that way, it's time, even without proof, to start learning how to stop believing everything this influencer or streamer displays online.

Not new actually, some gambling sites do partnerships with streamers and give them a real account with bankroll in it and all they need to do is stream their gambling session and of course most of the time or in long time the streamer will win which encourage the viewers to play on that site. But even if the streamer do win, he/she cannot withdraw that account and it was part of the partnership with the gambling site, so you really can't tell which streamers do really gamble and win and who is hired by gambling sites.

But some of them do shows the withdrawal process and so on but you can see that the amount they are withdrawing is not that high.

Lets say it is real that some streamers are using demo account and enhanced RTP, I say that it is not something wrong as long as the streamers are telling the truth.
It can be an problem if the streamers say that they are using real money while they are using demo account, it means they are liars.
However no matter they are using real account or demo account, we as viewers should take them as entertainment only.
We should not be attracted to do the same as what they do as what they do is just advertisement and they do it as a job.

Not surprising I guess. If they would use a personal account to showcase a gambling site, win rate will be the same and that means he'd rely solely on his luck. Take note that the goal of streamers is to promote a gambling site (most of the time), therefore if viewers would see the reality of how hard it is to win, they would associate the platform being promoted to other sites as alike. Some viewers are just so desperate or aware of the reality in gambling that they would be hooked up with a platform if they will see that the streamer is winning easily. This is why demo accounts are most of the time being shown because I think it has a higher winning rate which will aim to create an impression to audiences or simply encouraged them to engage on the platform being showcased.

What streamers do is to advertise a casino for people to patronize the casino, which means they are in business with the casino, and I will not doubt it that streamers are using demo accounts when streaming.

But this is bad, because those people that are watching will get tricked in the sense that they will think that it is real account, and before you know it they will involve themselves in gambling using huge amount of money like what they watch the streamer do, unknown to them that it is not a real account. I will say that it is like luring someone into something that you cannot do yourself with your own funds.

I would believe what thier fellow streamers said since they have the experience themselves. How else can they make such content where the streamer can win a huge sum and then look like they are not even feeling they are risking something big. I couldn't believe some of them could just wager as big as 25k in one go, there's gotta be something behind them and the casino.

If the casino can modify the winning rate of a game for the streamer to play, this will be more reassuring that the streamer will win and more confident to show the public which is a demo account.

Nothing new, at least some get busted for doing that. People who have brain also know if slots will not make you to earn, even you earn, it's just temporary since you will back and gamble again.

Match fixing is more concerning to me since no one know if the match is really fair or not, we have seen so many controversial decision by referees or judges.

Streamers didn't affect the result of gambling, but match fixing is.

It depends on how you analyze it and from what perspective you see the impact of both match fixing and streamers being dishonest to their viewers.
Someone who is not actually into slots and casino games would never assume there is big negative impact being done against the viewers of those streams and certainly someone who prefer casino games over betting would not even think about match fixing.
The good news is how easily one can avoid to fall victim of any of those schemes by being informed enough about them and avoid both small regional matches and also devious and shady streamers with a lack of track record.

I have said it before, but I personally do not see the appeal on watching someone else wagering money on a casino when one could do so with the exact game if one wanted to. It is like becoming addicted without having the thin chance to earn a significant amount of money out of it.  ::)

Totally true, remember the time when a CS:GO skin website was being promoted by Jake Paul or Logan Paul, I can't exactly remember but they did this promotion where you get to spend money to spin roulette so you can win some expensive in-game skins and then it ended up getting exposed that they've got a different account where it's guaranteed that you would get those expensive skins and then it ended with a lot of kids getting scammed by this website and the streamers and influencers that promoted them getting flamed for what they've done to deceive their viewers.

Many local online casinos in Asia through their agents promote their platforms with offering "a special account".
Actually, its just a marketing trick and it is not a demo account, the account is the same as other accounts made by ordinary users on that platforms.

Local online casinos that hire streamers/influencers to promote their platforms, actually only give them an ordinary account with a fairly decent balance and ofc its not withdrawable.
If they say that they can win big with the account, its just a coincidence.
It started as a marketing trick, became a hot topic among the gamblers and then it became a myth which many people still believe it.

In my opinion, people should not look at streamers as a model of player that they should also copy, but rather they should look at streamers as teachers who teach some functions of games. whether streamers earn a lot or little money, use demo accounts or real accounts, are they sponsored or not by casinos. it shouldn't be people's biggest focus because gambling is not something for obtaining a stable income, so when people want to know about a game, for example, they can go to streamers' channels and watch them playing, that way the person learn more about that particular game he wants to play. In my opinion, streamers are similar to those guys who test whether cars are good or not when car companies create a new car

Now the mistake many people make is looking at the streamers' earnings during games and copying everything the streamers are doing, they put a lot of money into the casino thinking that when they play the same game that the streamers were playing and won a lot, then they too will win a lot, and when they lose they are on the internet complaining about the streamers, they are accusing the streamers of lying. but I wonder if the streamers during the games mention that they are playing with money from their pockets and on their real account, if they don't say anything about it, then in a way they are not lying

nowadays we can say that is true cause like here in my country a lot of streamers using demo account with a balance of 100k in our Currency which is pretty sure enough that many people or followers of that streamers will take the link that they provided the comment section of thier live. And we are all know that the more people downloading and made a deposit  the more commissions that the streamer have. But it depends on the situation what are their agreement between the steamer and the owner of the casino.

It could not be demo accounts, but the casinos themselves are funding these streamers in order to boost their platform and show the viewers that this streamer rolls big and wins big on the same platform, instilling confidence and trust on the platform. A lot of these streamers in the Philippines are possibly doing this because if you think about it, these are just average streamers who obviously can't deposit $25k every day and lose it just because they can. At most, these streamers can possibly earn $10k in a month so how can they fund their gambling activities?

This is why I never play on the casinos these streamers are trying to advertise. They're fooling their viewers for the sake of money, and only a handful of these streamers are actually playing with their own money.

Honestly, I don't really know about whether the money used by the stremers to do promotional video shows is real money or just a demo account (fake money), but I think we should be able to realize it ourselves by thinking using a healthy mindset where I think if you are a gambler then you should realize that finding victory in gambling is not as easy as turning your palm, I understand and feel how difficult it is to get consecutive wins with large amounts especially if we play in online casino types such as slot games that purely rely on luck.

But as we see that the stremers really look very easy to get that big win, and honestly I don't see the reaction of concern from them at all when their balance has decreased even though the number of their multipliers is very large but in the end their promotional video shows are always closed with significant wins, and maybe you've seen stremers who managed to turn small money into very large, like $10 into $1000, although it might happen but I don't think the scenario will be that easy. There are quite a lot of irregularities that I see and I'm pretty sure that it's actually fake money or it means that they are playing on a demo account that has been provided by a casino that wants to promote by organizing everything behind the scenes to change the winning percentage to be easier for the stemser so that many people are interested and fall for it.

Streamers without sponsors will likely to create traffic by using a demo account but it won't take too long to notice whether the person is buying the slot bonuses or simply just making bets and showing the winnings cause people will most likely support the transparency when they are new to the channel.

Well, demo account or the casino itself sponsoring the thing is same, the streamer isn't taking any risk with his money that's the moral of the story.

I don't care whether they use a demo account or a real one, because I really don't believe the impressions of slot streamers, what they get when playing slots is unreasonable, and very different from reality. Because actually slots are a type of gambling that quickly sucks up visitors' balances. And while I was playing slots, it seemed like I was spending more money than I was winning. So I think what the streamers are doing is just a setup, just to fool their fans. Therefore, I hope that we can all digest the shows they show well, and even if we like watching streamer slot gambling shows, consider it just for entertainment, because in reality slot games are not as beautiful and easy as those played by slot streamer.

No, they're using the balance on a real account. So, to make the bet are real. However, some of the influencer have different contract:
1. Balance are 100% fake on real balance, which mean they cannot withdraw them
2. Balance are being given by casino, but there has some turn over
3. A few percentage you can with from the total balance you are made.

That's why, mostly 98% they are betting with fake balance. It's not doubt about that, even in youtube there has some detail about the deal.

Some casino platforms have affiliated with some streamers with many followers, they have paid streamers to promote gambling using underhanded strategies to deceive many followers, don't expect them to review honestly and they will not admit that the casino platform has sent a demo account with an increased RTP. for creating bad content. Actually, it's not just gambling but this case occurred on a trading robot platform.

But not all streamers are bad, some streamers will not accept offers that harm viewers and you have to be selective in having streamers review each platform with an honest explanation and make sure they are not affiliated with a casino platform.

It's possible. I saw one video on Tiktok, someone is posting that they have won big in land based casinos, but someone commented that they are playing demo account, Lol and that's why they were able to win supposedly big money.

So I wouldn't be surprised if this is also happening in online or some streamers are really using demo accounts to show that they are beating huge amount of money to look as if they are rich or very lucky winning jackpot after jackpot.

Lol, but it will be funny if those who have seen the videos are going to call out those streamers using a demo account to play and stream their games live on their channel. So it's possible and made some youtube checks and see what is going on about some players using demo accounts.

https://img.youtube.com/vi/r2E7t0GYka4/0.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2E7t0GYka4)

Or if not fake money, they are not playing with their own money but from the casinos that are promoting, simply as that.

It's actually true that most of the gambling streamers, they're using demo accounts provided by the casino that they're marketing and advertising. And that's why you shouldn't be gullible with what they're making from there because they've been done to convince you to gamble and to make it look easy. This marketing method is done by a lot of casinos and if you're not fond of the gambler, you have to observe it because if not then you're one of the many that they're fooling around and all they want you to do is to sign up under them.

That's part of the plan, they're promoting the casinos that they're affiliated with or they want to earn commissions from. But most of them are sponsored and for them to gain more money from their viewers, earning from their link is one of the ways for them to maximize profit aside from the sponsorship that they're paid to do it from the casino. So that it will make it look like legitimate from the eyes of the viewers.

Hard to tell that it’s a demo account but it’s possible as long as those streamers are being hired by the site directly to promote their platform. Well, this is why we should not believe easily on any streamer especially if they are promoting something as we all know, they are doing it on purpose, maybe this is true since their winning rate are high compare to the normal account.

The demo account that has been provided by the casino because they have a contract with the casino to do streamers to make more interested and it doesn't make sense that they win a large amount as usual then the streamers do attractions such as stressing that the game is real but we don't believe it.

If other streamers have the same experience then it is true that the demo account they are using to attract traffic to the casino or the streamers themselves. Don't be surprised that other streamers may also do the same thing because the important thing is that they get paid.

The main aim of these streamers are to get that tons of referrals on which they would really be able to make money which this is really a typical ref hunting and the sad part on here is that theyre being fooled by those demo accounts. If this one turns out to be true and its been proven out then it would be surely that creating that huge effect into their credibility but since no one had been able to prove it out then people around would really be just that ending up on speculating and telling that it is really that demo. You would really be able to notice it out that they do play without having no emotions as if they are really that playing without losing something. If it was that real then you wont really be having those kind of reactions.

Wasn't this established in the past already? Or at least, assumed by the majority of people who watch about said streamers. Granted some might have this, some might just actually be spending money that they got from the casino themselves so the money they were SUPPOSED to spend, which imo is almost the same as them playing a demo account in terms of ethics.

Nothing too solid in terms of evidence though lol. Casinos may just say that they should use this specific account but they'd never disclose that said account had changed odds compared to other regular accounts after all.

I am not sure why this would be needed as high RTP doesn't guarantee high jackpots. Some casinos might fake those, i am sure, but also if you give enough free cash for influencers to play with, they will eventually hit those huge jackpots. And those will pay themselves back as those videos bring in ton of new greedy players. And streams where they lose money aren't worth sharing, so they get less attention.

I've watched only few of these live, and least one of these casinos had paid the "influencer" which was very low status influencer because casino was shady and new. And they also paid with bonuses to commentors, so there was an audience made up totally from the casino's community, trying to get bonuses just by commenting. Even though the influencer didn't win anything big and eventually lost everything, i lost my trust on any of these at that day.

Good chance that some of the people who stream and have been able to snag sponsorships with gambling sites have demo qccounts, as there is no real way you’d be able to drop jackpot after jackpot which some of these streamers experience on the daily.

Furthermore. It just makes sense to paint a picture of success and ease to these streamers’ impressionable viewers especially nowadays when more and more fans fall victim to their idol’s antics. Gambling sites would’ve most definitely catch wind of this and would use this tactic to further their marketing goals.

Some don’t even use demo accounts anymore, they blatantly use accounts funded by the gambling site with odds that are most likely jacked to fool the viewers into thinking that the casino their favorite streamer’s playing in is generous and fun. Blatant jackassery if I do say so myself

That's surprising, because it would be an actual scam and the streamer along with the casino staff dealing with him could be prosecuted for that. But usually they speak or they do something else while they are losing and they only focus people attention on the game when they win. So people don't really see how long he was losing before winning something big.

It's not that I'm invalidating your belief but the problem with streamers using these demos or accounts with fake balances is that they usually have a lot of young and gullible audiences. You know they don't have that discerning eye and often just follows what their favorite streamer do or promote so they end up getting fooled.

Maybe there are some gambling or slot streamers who use demo accounts, because that is just a content requirement and we have to understand that. But when a gambling streamer who is affiliated with a certain gambling site, tries to broadcast his slot games but uses a demo account, I think this is a form of cheating on his viewers. Because they broadcast a lie, with the aim of attracting the interest of their viewers so they can visit the same site or the one the streamer recommends. And therefore, we as viewers must be able to digest what they show well, don't easily believe and be fooled by what they show and convey. Moreover, currently the presence of influencers or gambling influencers is increasing day by day, and even live streaming shows and gambling content are like mushrooms scattered everywhere, especially on social media pages. For those of us who have been gambling for a long time, maybe this is not a serious problem, because we can respond to these shows well. However, for those who have just entered the world of gambling, what is broadcast by influencers and gambling influencers, this could be very dangerous poison.

You are a kabayan too, right? If you are, it's very common nowadays in our country to see these streamers being gambler streamers. Coming from the world of esports and gaming, to gambling gaming. They're for the money on it because it looks like that many of them are paid ranging from $60-$100 and more per video inserting that 1:30 video of gambling to their contents and it's more pay if they're going to literally stream the casino. So, if it's a live stream of the actual casino, I am sure that they get hefty sum of money out of it and that's why it seems proliferating nowadays because it's lucrative for them.

We don't need to be deluded about many of the streamers and influencers that then try to lure us to gambling often because of the result we might have been seeing from their betting which might looks very real but it is not. It is good we become very careful how we gambler because if we lose consciousness, we might be surprised of losing funds because of careless gambling trying to make big money from betting while doing the wrong thing.

As a gambler, we must be ready to take responsibility for everything we do in gambling. If we really wants to make money from gambling, we need to be prepared to learn and lose for better strategy that would aid us to benefit from betting.

I knew that streamers winning so much money were not as it seems however I didn't know that they used a demo account. Should I say this is low or the new low. Why the deception at the expense of your viewers.
We are already so hooked on influencers and whatever it is is very hard to stop believing them. The gullible ones will believe that one. Infact they will believe everything. There are no regulations that binds steamers on what show, say play.

Demo account doesn't necessarily mean the winning rates of the games were enhanced... I can't make any accusations, because I don't have any proof about that. More commonly, if they are playing with fake money through demo accounts they just have to be patient until facing a nice steak of winnings, so they can record this part of their gambling session and post on their channel on Youtube, for an example. However, for live streamers it's not that easy, because it may take a long time until they record a streak of consistent winnings. So, by there, the audience may have already lost interest on their content.

If a casino is really involved in adulterating the algorithm of a slot game or any other game offered by the platform in order to favour a specific streamer for a respective video propaganda, it will be heavily denounced as a scandal in virtual gambling industry, and it's likely the casino will face very harsh consequences towards the regulators and also the gamblers' community which will avoid their services at all costs from that moment on.

I watched a smaller gambling channel where he said that he needs to play the amount that was given to him by the casino and he can keep whatever he made from it maybe a "rollover". He didn't went into detail but I those aren't demo account.

Streamers using demo accounts this is a little bit of a conspiracy but here in my country slot streamers with no face usually win a lot of money and of course the balance said it is real money with no "demo" word in any of the screen but when i watch streamer usually they had ton of luck. Yes some people believe that might actually a demo account filled with fake money by the gambling provider and give a huge win but I don't know how and this just become a discussion by some people who watch that streamer.

Since they using a mask no face and playing a slot on a new site so most of people don't believe in it.

Most likely it's true and why do they need a demo account when the casino itself can put any amount on the streamer's real account so they can use it for their live stream.
As far as I know, the casino may don't have the ability to change the RTP because it is something the gambling regulator's responsibility. But, there could be something else they will do to alter the results to favor the streamer during the live betting session.
Nevertheless, casinos will always find a way to make everything appealing for the people who watch the streamer, no wonder why slot games have become more and more popular here in PH, because most of the influencers and content creators are advertising these kind of casino games. In fact half of the video content were about how they multiplied their money while playing slot games to that specific casino. These are the kind of contents I don't like which I eventually live a thumbs down for being so desperate. 

this is not a rumor, but a fact, because of all the streamer gamblers, almost all of them work with casinos and it is impossible for these streamers to use their own money, but they use accounts that have been created by casinos with tweaks. so in this way, streamers can show how exciting it is for them to gamble and win from it and then that will attract people to register on the casino platform.

therefore, we don't need to be surprised at how gambling streamers can earn millions from gambling, because they work together with casinos to make them "look" like rich people, just like gambling influencers.

There is a lot of money or revenue being generated from watching these streaming videos and one may be so carried away with the results of wins recorded during playing live demo, without knowing that these are just content creation and marketing strategies to get the users who become as fans firstly and then the investor who wants to play to earn.

There's also one called funded trading, where be it the newbie traders have to register and join a gambling site after paying some amount of fees, before being allowed to be funded and thus can gamble therein.

Exactly, I think that this has been a thing of the past though, some streamers especially the popular ones do have the money to be able to do the real bets, the only difference now is just that they're not using demos anymore, they've got some privileges from the casino that they're promoting and that they're not easily losing their money, their odds are adjusted so they win more, that way, most casinos would avoid the issue of streamers lying to their audiences which would lead to generation of bad publicity for that casino together with that streamer. It would be a really weird experience too if you ask me if they gamble like us plebes, not a good image for the casino that someone on the livestream is breaking down and slowly spiraling out because they've got the same odds as normal people so I get why they do this kind of thing.

They don't need to be a demo account, and from what I understand I think joeperry is right.


The point is that either way there is a degree of fakery in what they show, because they are not literally taking money out of their pocket to gamble with the risk of winning or losing it as many of their viewers are going to do.

The real problem is that in most cases they won't mention anything about the account (they don't tell you that it is real, but most viewers, specially youngsters and newbies, will believe it).

To me, this is serious because they might create wrong expectations on these people, who will risk more than what they would of they hadn't see these videos, and end frustrated because of the "bad luck" they have in comparison to the streamer. Although it is not bud luck, in the cases mentioned, but flawed odds.

Yeah for me it's true since as you can see when these streamers promote the online casino they are paid to advertise, you can only see all the winning part of the gaming activity I mean showing only positive sides of the game makes me conviced that it was all faked and staged to lure possible users to see how easy it is to win but in reality it's a total trap for them. I actually one of those agents before with online casino and that is common during a paid promotion to use a demo account.

This issue is not new to us, it has been spreading for a long time because other former streamers have released the truth about this, the majority of streamers who have a contract with online casinos are given set up accounts to make the content more convincing once they play it in their live streamin. of course if people can only watch winning, there is a good chance that more people will join, right? this is also a good side for streamers because they will earn money when a lot of people use their referral codes, that's why most of the people who attract other streamers are beginners and young people, the ones they can easily fool.

Streamers usually get paid by casinos and even use special accounts from casinos, in addition streamers also become affiliates recommended by casinos because when streamers play slot games they always put referral links in the description, which means streamers will get a bigger commission.

We never know how fully the streamer does that we assume they are paid by the casino or become its partner to continue to streamer at the casino being promoted.

I also see the jackpot easier to get streamers than us as reality is not like that.

So the rumor comes from viewer's comment only without any solid evidence? Of course viewers are free to say anything about what they watch but at the same the streamers are also free what to do in their stream. Streamers are usually playing depends on the deal with the casino they promote. I doubt big casinos will let their streamers to play with demo account as it might give bad reputation to the casino. Usually the streamers are playing with real account and real money but there might be some terms behind that we never know unless the streamers inform it to the viewers.

There is no streamer who will admit to that, because believe it or not, but I think this scenario is possible because, if you will notice how streamers gamble or play gambling games, especially slot games, they wager too much money and sometimes lose or win a huge amount of money. Where is it coming from? maybe the money can be sponsored by the gambling website or app that they are promoting so that the viewers could be attracted to and curious to try the website as they can see the streamers hitting a huge amount of win, but of course it can also have the possibility that the account might be a demo account, we will never know until we can see a solid proof that this kind of cheating is happening in the streaming industry related to gambling, but of course no one will admit or no one will let their guard down because it will against the contract and they might be sanctioned by the gambling site, anyways don't believe in all you see in internet, not all you see in internet or in the streaming community.

How can most of us here tell if this is true when we are not streamers?, there is this common phrase in my place which states "na thief dey catch thief", this simply means that, it's a criminal that knows who is a criminal, and also catches a criminal, if those who are saying this are streamers also, or were once streamers, then there is the possibility that there could be some truth in the rumor.

Come to think of it, there is actually a way to know if when a streamer is using the demo version of a slot game to deceive his followers, the one and only way I can think of for now is by watching when the streamer is about to start the game, there is usually a switch used to shift from play mode to fun mode, if the streamer used the switch while opening the game, then there is possibility that he is playing in demo mode, or he's and just before starting the game, he goes off for a few second, that could be an indication that he did some thing back door, and that could be putting the game in a demo mode before coming back on live.

Anyways, if streamers go this, it's totally wrong, knowing fully well that they misleading their viewers, I think hosting services should be alerted on this, and any streamer caught doing this should be permanently banned.

Is that a bad thing? ???

Imagine if there's a casino offer you to become paid streamer and they don't mind if you cover your face and change your voice, will you reject the offer just because you don't agree to gamble using demo account?

The main problem is why the police didn't catch the steamers that give fake promises e.g. sign under referral link will boost 10% winning chance, play this games will make you rich etc.

That's the point of this, why they do that is for the sole reason that it will attract players to try their luck and make sure that they're doing all the allure as much as possible so people would think that it's easy to make money here because Streamer is making bank out of this casino, in an ideal world, that wouldn't be this bad because it's advertising after all, it's bound to deceive someone but the problem stems with the fact that in reality, people are stupid and they think that it's the same gamble for them as the streamer if they try it and then they end up with all these losses because they blindly use what the streamer's advertising. I guess when people stop falling for this kind of marketing, that's the time that we would see some changes in regards to how these casinos use streamers to promote their online casinos, I don't think that it's going to change anytime soon though.

Its not really a bad thing since its opportunity for certain individual to earn money and there's nothing wrong to be practical since we know its hard to earn money nowadays. Also lots of people will understand that since for sure they or we would also grab the offer if same offers will be given to us. But what's bad thing about that is how they promote their sponsors since some of those streamers promise heaven and earth to those people who sign up under their referral links then say about something unrealistic like they can earn easily by playing those stuffs they promote. If they always say gamble responsibly maybe lots of people will accept their promotions doing but if they do something not good by saying something easy richest just to lure those guys then this is where the crime starts.

Maybe authorities can't do any action yet since the regulation regarding on this promotion is so weak on their jurisdictions that's why there are some influencers are free to promote whatever they like even if they know that it can possibly destroys someone's life.

I'm not a streamer but reasonably I don't expect that a streamer would risk all his huge money to proof to someone else that he knows his onions and for him to only register through him. What about if he loses his money?

So I think the risk is too much for the streamer to go live without any fakery. Therefore, it is either the assumption of demo account may be reasonable to consider or that there is some kind of agreement with the casino owners on some manipulation that will allow some fakery.

They will never tell the public that they are using demo account and enhanced RTP else the essence of the promotion will be defeated. Their job is to convince the viewers that they are real and that gambling pays that much. There is no way they can make the followers use real money if they are aware the streamers are using demo. The technical aspect of it is that they will always put disclaimer which exonerate them from any liability or action the gamblers might take due to their streaming activities.

I have learnt to take my decision and not allow influencers or anyone to cajole me into doing what I didn't bargain for. My money is precious to me so I use it wisely.

That's right, I believe you about what the former stremer told me, they are promoting by using an account that has been set up behind the scenes by the casino which I am sure that the casino organizes everything especially to make the winnings easier to get by the stremer when they are doing video shows.

And the other thing is that winning in gambling is money and everyone needs money and as we know that most people are very easily tempted by something that is instant but makes a large amount of money, at least they will definitely be tempted or tempted and then try it and usually the victims are those beginners who are still new and don't know much about how gambling actually is, or most likely the victims will be people who really need money in an urgent time which makes them sometimes able to justify all means to get money, one of which they might be very easy to try gambling and hope that they will be able to get a win according to what the stremers get.

I was looking at the statistics of visitors to online casinos in my country, and I was very surprised that despite the complete ban on casinos, the number of new players is steadily increasing. And of course, one of the reasons for the casino promotion is the streamers. At the same time, there are two types of streamers: calm players and thrash streamers. And they have one thing in common: both of them play fake slots. I don't believe that their luck and winnings are real. These are either demo accounts or special slots made specifically for them.

But one thing is clear - this is definitely a hoax and not the slots that all players play.

Maybe that is true considering that streamers have very large balances. They could use a demo account to gamble and attract the interest of people who see them gambling. But we will never know the truth because it is a secret for the streamers. But I think there are streamers who use their real accounts to gamble and convince the people who see them. After all, we can only watch and not be tempted to follow them, especially if they have a lot of money for gambling. It's better if we just leave them to continue gambling and if we want to gamble, we can play using just enough money.

If it is the streamer who is speaking then there is a possibility that it is true. and it's no wonder why they (streamers) get big wins in every game video they share.
There is another possibility that the streamer is collaborating with the slot developer. which means the account can be set to win for promotional purposes to the streamer's followers.

I don't like gambling site streamers. they must know well the type of followers they have. If the streamer is focused from the start on the gambling site, it might not be a problem. but some streamers started out playing online games with followers mostly children who turned their views to gambling streamers. this is bad enough for his followers.

I understand what you are talking about. Personally, I have not caught the hand of any of the streamers and I have no proof that they are doing this. But I am initially distrustful of such things. Of course, they can use a demo account to show what is actually not there and to achieve their own interests. He can use a demo account, and the person looking at this will use his real money.
Everything that happens on the Internet, especially related to gambling or cryptocurrency or various types of earnings, should be treated with caution.

I've always told people not to believe what they see these days, it may not be particularly true, but most things are doctored and planned. The fact that experienced gamers/gamblers are saying the same thing should mean a whole lot to you. They get to reveal secrets due to envy at times while others will just want to reveal the truth so that people know what they are up against. Either way, I wonder why this is even surprising you, they might just be using simulators, something that is not real or be playing/showing the demo version that has nothing to deduct from them. Obviously, these guys can't be doing this alone, they will be doing it for some casinos, so what do you expect? Many might have the back-end weakness of the casino platform purposely for that trick in such a lapse mode to be able to exploit it and explore the viewers and the intending customers. So, the RTP can surely be doctored or planned in such a way that will produce the exact result they want from it.

Yes basically we do not have strong evidence to make assumptions about the stremers who broadcast lies to really be believed, but I think we can here prove it ourselves with the experiences we have experienced while we are involved in gambling which in my opinion and maybe also according to most people involved in gambling where getting a win especially in large quantities is very difficult, especially in a row but as we see that the stremers do it very easily and casually they managed to win a very large amount and this really looks tempting. While as long as I gamble honestly I have never had such easy wins, although I understand that luck can lead us to such results but still the process will not be as easy as the stremers do.

So I'm pretty sure that the stremers are screening using demo accounts that have been set up by the casino behind the scenes which makes everything easy to win, as you said and I agree with it that everything can happen on the internet and in the end it's clear that we really have to take care of ourselves carefully so that we don't easily get trapped and fall into the trap.

We are really just that good on there on which making up some assumptions but there's no way that you could really be able to make yourself that be able to prove out that they are making use demo accounts.
If ever we do tell that they are fakes then there are videos that they are really that buying up some bonus spins on which we know that this isnt something that could be possible when dealing up with a demo account on which  you could really be able to say or tell that it was real and something that using up that real balance. Unless if the said stream doesnt show or start up with having that big balance and making up some direct play without doing any buy ups then you could really be able to say that it was really just that demo. Just like on what most people been assuming that they are indeed making use of demo then it could be true or not
but if you are really that believing then you could really just that simply stop and avoid them at all cost.

There have been reports where some streamers were caught using a demo account. Not to mention, there were also some streamers who played on a platform with rigged odds- meaning the whole experience was rigged from the very start.

I remember there was this guy who streams CSGO roulette skins on YouTube and there was a time that he showed he won tons of skins worth $1,000+ from demonstrating the gambling platform. At the end, he was exposed on using a demo account or an account that was specifically designed for him to showcase to the people created by the admins on that gambling platform himself.

If you guys really want to gamble, then avoid watching streamers and using the gambling website as basis. This forum exists for a purpose- to warn and to guide potential gamblers from using fake advertisements from rigged gambling websites.

I don't want to know whether the influencer or streamer's account has actually been set up by the casino to win. if everyone knew that there might not be any more gamblers playing. There are people who win and there are also people who lose. that's all we need to know. If something like that happens, it's only for promotional purposes.

It's the same as slot sites that offer big max wins in their promotional advertisements. whether anyone ever gets it or not, it's just a promotion. We don't play gambling to chase big wins as promoted. Enjoy the game, just getting a small win makes us happy.

I feel like it's not demos, but who knows, that's not impossible. I don't think there's any evidence to support or deny that claim.

What I know for sure is that these people have special deals with the casino and they don't lose real money. If they lose it's given back to them as an account bonus, or they get very high rakebacks of like 50% or something. Sometimes they also get their accounts credited for free, so they play with casino's money.

Regardless of whether these are demo accounts or not, you shouldn't trust what you see on their streams.

There too many manipulative information giving out by some of those streamers that only show you the successful aspect of gambling, they can make a newbie to believe all their lies and at the end the person can just hurt their self. It is not fair at all how those streamers are just streaming with false information to enrich themselves and while those that follow their lead are losing badly. I also believe most of those streamers are not showing a real account.

There will always be people who will try to cheat the system in every way, with that said I am sure that some people will try to stream gambling content with demo accounts. Actually, this rumor makes a lot of sense, if streamers play with a demo account they can fool around as much as they want with "seemingly big money", RTP will be higher and they will win big money more often and it will be interesting for all followers.

Well, so far I haven't seen anyone expose a streamer for this kind of case, but I don't follow that world that much so maybe I missed it. I guess it's hard to prove something like this, all we can see is what they show us... demo accounts also have some money with a fiat sign.

Despite not understanding the full concept of streamers using demo account, I think that any allegations like this without a proof or an evidence to support it is baseless. And as a non streamer, if this what accusation of streamers using demo accounts where coming from actual streamers I would have taken it seriously but then I want to believe that it is not. Besides, I do not believe everything I see on the internet. There is a chance that these streamers could have put up a demo account with fake balance. I don't know how it happens but I believe that it isn't impossible.

Wow I haven't heard of this one though, but it seem very possible as most influencer can actually do that, just to get the attention of the viewer. It's quite unfortunate that someone person can even think on using such strategy to trick the minds of the viewer so as to get more customer in using their service. I can say for sure, but it's possible some person who are desperate could even make a customised account for advising/deceiving their viewers. But if any is caught he should be arrested for fraud.

These days people can do anything for money this is why we should be careful about what we believe. I pity people who believe everything these influencers show in their channels. Many of these things are stage-managed to get the right attention from unsuspected viewers or followers. This is my first time hearing that these influencers use demo accounts and I believe that these things happen. My only problem is that many people have been deceived and might even be struggling with gambling addictions. We shouldn't gamble because others are doing it but we should gamble based on our income and not by what we see on social media. I also support that the advertising of these influencers should be regulated. The government should make laws that criminalize showing fake adverts on the internet.

Well, can I say that I'm not surprised? It's not unusual for streamers to be monetized by well-known casinos in order to promote them, and, to be honest, there's nothing wrong with that. However, using a demo account and tampering with the winning odds is not only immoral by the casino, but from the streamer who agrees to do it for money as well, it's a borderline scam.

This isn't something I've heard before. I'm not keen on watching streams; I don't find them entertaining, plus I don't really fancy all this promotion going on, but as I've said, I'm not amused by the news. Some people will go to great lengths for money, but this is completely wrong. You're playing mind games with your viewers, tricking them into believing that they can yield the same returns as you, but that couldn't be further from the truth.

If there is an accusation, there should be a proof.  We do not know if these streamers who are commenting that they have experience of the rigged setup on a demo account are just doing a demolition job on the casino and or on the person who is streaming.

With regards to using demo account and rigged RTP, I think the casino can do it simply by requesting the provider to modify the RTP of a certain game.  Regardless, of whether the streamer is playing in a demo account or rigged RTP, we, as a viewer, should only see it as entertainment.  Always be responsible if in case we are enticed to gamble on the advertised casino.  Play in moderation and be informed that the streamers' luck will never be our luck.

Couldn’t agree more. Whether they are using real account or demo account, still we don’t have the hold onto that. They are just doing their own job, and it’s not for us to tell them what to do. So the best solution to this is not to take their streaming too serious. Remember, gambling is supposed to be a game, not a guarantee to earn a living. If you fall on their trap, that’s already your problem, and that they are not to be blamed when it happens.

Not a new thing surely, the stream is the show not really the gambling game shown.  I know from watching other streamers and being friends with a couple that across the whole range of possible streams the workload is more then appears.  Watching chat, interacting with viewers is massively distracting & a detriment to their gameplay.    If its harder for them to win I can understand they dont really want to risk even their normal size bets on a distracted game experience, they are just showing 'how' they play.

It seems like you are saying about a type of game that is purely about luck, where perhaps I would assume that your statement could refer to a type of game such as slots where we can buy bonus spins in all the types of games provided and this is interesting. What we have to remember and realize is that all the games provided by casinos are games created and regulated by the casino itself, they are free to make everything easy or very difficult as in terms of winning, and with this I will assume that the casino can also regulate the system in the bonus purchase feature.

At first glance, it looks like it's impossible, which means you might think that the spin bonus purchase can never be changed, but I think nothing is impossible because the casino is in control of all the rules and systems for how a game is provided, which means it remains the same. It is very possible that it seems like the casino has set up all the systems in a game promoted by the streamers (including the bonus purchase feature), because otherwise it would not be that easy for the streamers to make all the decisions into a winning streak.

It's not uncommon to hear story such this. To tell you the truth, yes they are. Promoting a casino requires something that will make their viewers eager in playing casino. To make this happen, they need to show that the casino they are promoting gives a higher chance of winning, giving bonus and many benefits. If you also notice, some streamers of slot games who won huge amount of money have clearly less emotion compared to actually winning real money because their winnings can't be withdraw.

So here is the trick: (for example) you are a gambler and you are thinking of how to make extra bucks out of your gambling experiences. After thinking on how to go about your plans, you realized that you can actually stream games on your channel, which will earn you lots of subscribers, views, and comments, and before you know it, you are already monetizing your channel. Then, boom, you started with your plans, learning from other fake streamers too. 

It is not a lie that some streamers are using demo accounts or that some are working with the casino they are streaming, and it's possible that the casino can just give them a special account to do all that shit. 

You better name the streamer, so that we can investigate if it's true that he is really using a demo account or not but there are truly streamers like that and it's obvious when we watch their gameplay. Usually it is if they are winning frequently and winning big amounts. We can also add that the UI has change a bit and lastly the reaction of the streamer is odd.

I think it's not only the slot provider is the one that can change the RTP but others too if they want the same thing. Rest only assure that it only can happen during a demo game, so that we won't get cheated and also they won't lose easily if in case it malfunctions or the player tweaked it for their own advantage.

It is a marketing design that makes someone a fool from these social media influencers and it is effectively working for those who have no idea about gambling. I'd say this is a winning strategy. Casino owners pay these people and use their popularity to make people listen and encourage them to gamble because they see people are winning big as well without thinking it leads them to the trap.

I know gambling is not a wrong thing but see to it we are responsible enough to handle this. And most of all, take extra caution when following influencers.

Streamers like this usually don't have an official agreement with the casino so this is quite reasonable and he is just trying to spread his own referral link to increase his level. Usually this step is taken to get the attention of the casino, where if they have succeeded in attracting many visitors via the link shared, they will easily submit a proposal to the casino, namely including evidence of several attachments for users who have been invited. You could say that streamers like this are not very famous and have minimal capital but still want to try to exist in the world of gambling.

AFAIK, even the casino operator cannot change the winning chances of the third-party providers since they only host games as they are. The games are created and maintained by the provider... What happens is the streamers use fake balances provided by the casino, so essentially, they don't deposit and can't withdraw their winnings. With basically unlimited money to play, you are guaranteed to get some wins out of the fake money that you burn. The reaction is only an act ;D

It is very much possible, because some streamers just keep winning the jackpot as if it is so easy, you will only find out that they are not honest after you try the same online casino yourself.

Not all of them are like this, some of them rely on the donation they get from their streaming service, their fan also, I have seen where by a streamer lost everything on live and the fans started receiving $10 here, 50 there until it got bigger and he started gambling again and later he won big.

The truth is most streamers are faking it all, and in the end they are the real winners because they get paid from the casinos for advertising their platform, streamers have nothing to lose.

If I have to advise any new gambler or someone who is just starting, I will say they should stay away from streamers, the way streamers win on live streaming is abnormal, no gambler will win in such a manner.

There are a lot of ways streamers use to trick the users into watching their streams.
They partner with gambling sites into providing them accounts which wins often on the site.
This partnership is a win win for both of them since the users get tricked and register on the site and lose money by gambling there.
Gambling sites and those streamers get money from us users this way and so we should not believe everything we see on the internet.

I don't think it's just a rumor and it's mostly facts, it's just that not all gamblers take it seriously, sometimes they know about it but they consciously ignore it. I don't really like slot games but I often see my friends playing slots. and to be honest there is nothing interesting there just waiting for the jackpot and it completely depends on luck, the game doesn't even use any strategy so it's not very fun for me, I once played it on a demo game it looked boring and I fell asleep while playing it after a few hours of balance I have more, as usual demo accounts will always be awarded wins.

We will never win against the dealer if we play with a real account, if you win big the dealer will definitely go bankrupt, no one has much luck in slot gambling, that's why I always avoid this game, I often see slot streamers playing demo accounts, It's just that I thought this was normal because they actually collaborated with the casino and used a real account, but in the game they continued to be given wins by the casino itself. so actually I don't really believe in the wins of influencers and streamers because they are fake wins, not real wins.

One can win over the house and it will not go bankrupt, though. It is about consistency and the possibilities of it happening to gamblers, compared to the chances the house have to be profitable in the long term as the gambler continues to spin rolls non stop. I am not fond of slots whatsoever, once I read it must be one of the games which most quickly can drain your wallet if you are not careful and not realize what you are doing and manage your budget correctly.
It is always good to approach those streamers and their content with a good portion of skepticism, just in case, in the end all of this is about advertisement and for the casino to advertise itself better, it is always convenient to incite people to sign up on their casino by witnessing some wins.

Instead watching streamers to burn money which we are not even aware actually belongs to them or not, it is better just to gamble with moderation by ourselves.