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Title: Likely low quality poster alts. Post by: Poker Player on May 02, 2024, 05:57:25 PM I see them in the Economics section and both by the way they write and by their nickname it seems to me that they are alts. They look like they have a lot of time to write nonsense from their mom's basement while eating Doritos and drinking Monster. Sorry for the overquotes but I think this way it will be clear:
Get ready for goods and products shiped from china india area sea to get very expensive. Also USA stand behind india and will give all the military aid to India it means stock market commodities and btc looking bullish becouse just start of the china India war the fed might lower the rates. Now they can't do rate cuts but If there will be world one of the biggest war definately fed ecb boe will cut rates fast. This one is very important for USA so they will support with money even more then ukraine. We might see fed rate cuts in 1-2 months the emergency rate cuts to give military aid. Also this area is important becouse a lot sea traffic with shipments goes from there to the world. Fed cutting the rates + tensions on world one of most important area can make shipping cost by conteiners sky rocketing. China India war will have huge impact to Global economy but one thing is for sure markets will go up. Also Since India own currency fall i guess blackrock is ready to start sell btc to India and to china. Both have huge population the china and india and If from starting the btc adoption and USDT USDC adoption to get btc then it can move the markets like grazy. We could see the fed cutting rates but dollar will be still strong becouse of strong demand of USD specially USDT and USDC. Everything comes together exacly timing. Yes Markets need war and it Will start soon the war is like water for flowers for the Market. In war we can turn on money printer and buy the bonds so after war year 2028 Will be biggest rate hikes again and no more QE no more money printing so it will be last money printing orgie enjoy this make most of out of this and nobody don't listen anymore If anyone talk about inflation because powers to be even are in gold and btc and making grazy gains. So enjoy the money printing it will be last one take maximum of this become rich year 2024-2025 or never Will be rich you only Will pay year 2028 higher taxes and higher rates and everything Will be cheap you want to sell Property 2026-2025 then all crashing down. Just invest in some cheapest coins you make grazy money Many people Will make so much money in one year from today that they lose their minds. But off course without bigger war we not going here is the plan start war lower the rates fed ecb boe and send all the markets to biggest bull run in the history get ready for become so rich that you lose your mind. Over the next years people Will be separated those who are with good mindset and Open minded they will be one place those who not they Will be another place so those who don't want to invest or crypto they Will be another circles those who are in good things they Will be connected. By wealth society Will be divided 50/50 you will be very rich side doing nothing / poor side working and getting nothing If you know any good people whos going to be poor side then you can save them because you on the good side Will make more money you can spend yourself. Wealth are not gambling or chasing the quick profit. Wealth true strong wealth it's like energy creation of value+utility + hard work + quality+ and finest craftmemship. Not just money and material things but everything even what you eat how you treat yourself. The success and wealth it's all your lifestyle and how you also respect and treat yourself. In life things happening to be the way that everything comes full If you are poor it's not just money problem you need better healt better education and better friends around you and more good vibes more quality and more value in material things and in knowledge and Even in your time. In otherwords If you seems to not making money you have to change everything. When it comes to investing in crypto or anything else those who really search for utility and value Will be winners. I have learned hard way that money comes when i focus on value knowledge and hard work. So If you surrounding yourself with people who value their time and they seek for quality and value then you connect with same kind of people. People tend to think that If they see ultra super wealthy person and see the numbers that there is main thing money but it's not there is high value high quality of everything you have wealth more how you value your life your time and who you associate. So in crypto it's fun to search fast gains but to be honest you make more wealth with patience and focusing in value and quality. So the truth is you have to become quality minded person forget about numbers just focus on what ever you do it's associated with value and quality and utility In USA 3000$ minimum Europe 300€-3500€ minimum wage i think UK there 4000$ minimum. Wage But goverment need to regulate just Rent prices , energy prices ,food prices. So If you want to put food price up then you need to be approved by goverment only then you can go over price limit. We need wages up but same time our regular costs need to be not go over limits. So things we need goverment must keep prices check becouse the economy is playground and goverment duty is to be judge that everybody play fair game. Thoughts? Title: Re: Likely low quality poster alts. Post by: stompix on May 02, 2024, 06:10:36 PM 101% ALTs, the same posting style, the same lack of knowledge about everything, and the same mistakes in typing and in countries' names..
Anyhow, there are probably more, he kept making them for two years at least: 325btc with loads of topics (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5394260.msg59840636#msg59840636) The worst thing is that he also tried a Ponzi scheme with one of them: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2835857 same writing, same bs style: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;threads;u=2835857;sa=showPosts Title: Re: Likely low quality poster alts. Post by: SamReomo on May 02, 2024, 07:17:28 PM I think you're right those accounts seem like alts to me as well. I have skimmed their post history and most of their posts are written in same way. All of those accounts have same grammatical mistakes and they have same pattern of writing. I'm not fully sure but I also believe that those accounts could be alt accounts controlled by one person.
Title: Re: Likely low quality poster alts. Post by: SatoPrincess on May 02, 2024, 07:52:05 PM You’re on to something here. These accounts may likely be connected, their posting style gives it away. From the posts you quoted, I noticed quickly the similarities in their writing patterns like how all four accounts make the same grammar errors, they use lower-case “i” instead of capital letters when referring to self. Also the irregular use of capitals can be found in the posts of all four accounts.
Title: Re: Likely low quality poster alts. Post by: logfiles on May 02, 2024, 10:55:30 PM The posting style is strikingly similar. I will be damned if they are not Alt accounts. Polo7 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2640926) tried to make a comeback using Polo7back but was quickly reminded that he was evading ban since polo7 is already banned permanently from the forum
Polo7 has a habit of trying to promote Ponzi schemes too - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5224444.0, so @stompix's findings are right. He definitely has more alts lying around. Title: Re: Likely low quality poster alts. Post by: Timelord2067 on May 03, 2024, 12:09:10 AM The Mansory22022 UID was created just two days after the post made by Parklane777 quoted by the OP.
Parklane777 has received just one merit from Argoo who according to [BPIP (https://bpip.org/Profile?id=1053354)] the whole of June 2019 resetting their password. The Polo7 UID was created on the fourth of July 2019 Date Registered: 2019-07-04, 18:38:45 less than a week after Argoo's last password reset. The Parklane777 UID was created less than a week prior to Polo7 being last active: Date Registered: 2023-12-13, 05:25:13 Polo7 12/17/2023 8:11:16 PM woke up Polo7 Last Active: 2023-12-18, 06:12:26 Parklane777 According to Ninja, all of them (including Argoo) have posted the most in Economics section. Title: Re: Likely low quality poster alts. Post by: PytagoraZ on May 03, 2024, 01:59:16 AM Netral tag + report moderator = Case closed
Title: Re: Likely low quality poster alts. Post by: Rikafip on May 03, 2024, 06:18:23 AM I've seen that Fullbear guy around writing nonsense and yeah, those other accounts that you mention are most definitely his alts and probably not the only ones he has.
Netral tag + report moderator = Case closed Maybe even negative since he used one of his alt accounts to promote a ponzi scheme. Title: Re: Likely low quality poster alts. Post by: JollyGood on May 03, 2024, 11:38:32 AM First of all, there are far too many examples to list whether they are in Economics or elsewhere but I am glad you highlighted some of them.
Unfortunately posting styles and patterns cannot always be an indicator of alt-accounts or farmed accounts because some of the puppeteers employ different tactics in an effort to misdirect but more often than not there are tell-tale signs. What some of them fail to understand is that the more they type and over-quote, they shine a light on to themselves. I see them in the Economics section and both by the way they write and by their nickname it seems to me that they are alts. They look like they have a lot of time to write nonsense from their mom's basement while eating Doritos and drinking Monster. Sorry for the overquotes but I think this way it will be clear: Title: Re: Likely low quality poster alts. Post by: Poker Player on May 03, 2024, 01:54:10 PM Netral tag + report moderator = Case closed Nor was I going to do that. I have two of the 4 quoted in the OP on ignore. I was simply going to put the other two on ignore as well, but I didn't know about polo7 being a scammer with an active flag against him. Maybe even negative since he used one of his alt accounts to promote a ponzi scheme. The quotes I have posted are not conclusive, they are just circumstantial evidence, but in the case of Polo7back I think he could be red tagged because he is so dumb that he used that nick (who else would use that nick?). If we look at the threads opened by Polo7 in Economics they are of the same style: World is investing more money in Military coz They know this Military is needed to making sure we Still have law and order. As They will not quut the debt system as its so good and profitable the World governments either can increase the spending on police and Military. We the people just need to get use to with crisis As whole world economy is turned into gigant casino but... Hey They can print more money And by speculating on the markets many people can be Rich I think the hyperinflation not a problem. The solution is crisis. I guess every year or so plus government can do debt forgiveness and complete restart. Universal income also Its just After 10 years crisis get use to it then Everything will start Again... The Fiat currencies are so great that Elite Don't have really Plan to kill Fiat currencies. Im sure the Trump and Elite like the World how it is. Also I Don't complain either the money printing makes cryptocurrency going up too. So I think the debt and this money printing is beneficial. And I think the Old way let it be... After 10years just little crisis then it will start like new game. They have now strong aml kyc Rules all over the World so They can track the money and too much money can be eliminated and inflation rate will be normal Again. Off Course people complain but this sysyem keeping capitalism going on and people with skills will just serve people who Got capital. And bitcoin will be just instutionlized. If you know the game you can be good Player in this Economic game.. Title: Re: Likely low quality poster alts. Post by: lovesmayfamilis on May 10, 2024, 10:31:30 AM Thoughts? Looks like there's another one https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3537888 Title: Re: Likely low quality poster alts. Post by: JollyGood on May 10, 2024, 10:56:29 AM Netral tag + report moderator = Case closed Nor was I going to do that. I have two of the 4 quoted in the OP on ignore. I was simply going to put the other two on ignore as well, but I didn't know about polo7 being a scammer with an active flag against him.Thoughts? Looks like there's another one https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3537888Title: Re: Likely low quality poster alts. Post by: Ultegra134 on May 10, 2024, 11:04:27 AM Good catch. Even though similarities in writing patterns aren't solid evidence to prove that they're multi-accounting, they're reasonable enough to raise attention. Not to mention that all but one account features the number 7 somewhere in their nicknames. Despite all that, I don't understand the reason someone would create a handful of alt accounts that are never going to rank up; even if they weren't caught, with such posts, I doubt they'd even reach the member rank, and even if they eventually do, they won't be accepted in any campaign.
Is there any possibility there's something greater behind fruitless hopes of joining a signature campaign in the future? One thing is certain though, they're flooding the forum with gibberish threads and replies, to the point that trashing them altogether doesn't sound like a bad idea. Title: Re: Likely low quality poster alts. Post by: lovesmayfamilis on May 10, 2024, 11:08:23 AM Thoughts? Looks like there's another one https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3537888Perhaps for this character, there is something sacred in the number seven. Here's another miracle https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3588422. Read the history of their posts (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5476881.0). It's hard not to see the similarity. The question is, where does so much energy come from to create posts? Graphomania seems to be a favorite pastime. Title: Re: Likely low quality poster alts. Post by: stompix on May 10, 2024, 01:01:24 PM Good catch. Even though similarities in writing patterns aren't solid evidence to prove that they're multi-accounting, they're reasonable enough to raise attention. Not to mention that all but one account features the number 7 somewhere in their nicknames. Neah, it's not only 7, he has a fetish for 2 also: Fullbear2222 and Mansory22022 and also this one is highly suspicious 325btc (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;threads;u=3443297;sa=showPosts), not listed here and probably a lot more, I think that if you skim through the topic starters it the economic section and select the authors will 2 or more numbers in their nicknames you will find out he has dozens of accounts. Now theoretically since he doesn't get paid for it would not make it such a big deal but the number of topics and the fact that all of them turn into spamfest topics is really bad, unfortunately, I've never seen the reports against this guy being truly effective, but maybe mass reporting them as low-quality topic could finally convince the mod over economics to nip the infestation in the bud. Hmm, now that I looked a bit: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5476881.0 Ponzi scheme scam and clearly alt bumping and vouching for it, is this not tag worthy? Title: Re: Likely low quality poster alts. Post by: Ultegra134 on May 10, 2024, 07:43:30 PM Neah, it's not only 7, he has a fetish for 2 also: Fullbear2222 and Mansory22022 and also this one is highly suspicious 325btc (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;threads;u=3443297;sa=showPosts), not listed here and probably a lot more, I think that if you skim through the topic starters it the economic section and select the authors will 2 or more numbers in their nicknames you will find out he has dozens of accounts. Yeah, I didn't notice that. Chances are there's an abundance of similar accounts, but saying that it's all to promote the Ponzi you quoted doesn't sound too plausible either. He's barely promoting it; at least I haven't seen too many of his posts. If that were the case, wouldn't he spam the forum, acting like it's an active platform with his alts posing as "successful" investors? I'm starting to believe that he's dumb enough to be hoping to enroll all his alts in signature campaigns sometime in the very distant future.Now theoretically since he doesn't get paid for it would not make it such a big deal but the number of topics and the fact that all of them turn into spamfest topics is really bad, unfortunately, I've never seen the reports against this guy being truly effective, but maybe mass reporting them as low-quality topic could finally convince the mod over economics to nip the infestation in the bud. Hmm, now that I looked a bit: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5476881.0 Ponzi scheme scam and clearly alt bumping and vouching for it, is this not tag worthy? Title: Re: Likely low quality poster alts. Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on May 10, 2024, 11:43:50 PM 101% ALTs I'll go you one better: 102% alts for sure. That is to say, I'm so sure those fuckers are idiotic alt accounts, the likes of which I've been seeing for years, that said certainty defies traditional statistics to a greater extent than you dared to in your post. It used to be that the worst of the shitposters clustered their crap in sections like Bitcoin/Altcoin Discussion, but it's only been in the past few years that they've invaded the Economics section as though there's an enormous billboard on some highway in S.E. Asia or Africa linking to it. Economics used to have tons of great threads in it, and some really good discussion. Hydrogen (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=68364) used to start a bunch of threads based on news articles, most of which were interesting enough that I'd either merit him or post something. Now all I see is a lot of shit topics with even shittier replies therein....but what can be done that hasn't been tried before? How much bitching can be bitched until the constant complaining achieves nothing but frustration? I could answer those questions myself, but that'd do no one any good. Title: Re: Likely low quality poster alts. Post by: Poker Player on May 11, 2024, 03:53:14 AM I'm a trigger-happy person when it comes to trust feedback, but in this case I don't think it's worth it. If I were to leave negative feedback, there is not enough evidence, at least in one case, that they are alts. But apart from that I think he is so dumb that he is very unlikely to scam anyone. And I don't see that anyone has made up their mind.
I think I might leave some neutral feedbacks for low quality poster but I am not sure. Hydrogen (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=68364) used to start a bunch of threads based on news articles, most of which were interesting enough that I'd either merit him or post something. Hydrogen's problem, if you see the neutral feedback icopress left him, is that he would open these threads from news he found, with a great quote and little commentary, and then disengage from the conversation. He was doing it to meet la quota and I was surprised he was in the CM. I guess he got in when there wasn't as much competition. Title: Re: Likely low quality poster alts. Post by: uchegod-21 on May 11, 2024, 03:07:07 PM The posting style is strikingly similar. I will be damned if they are not Alt accounts. Polo7 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2640926) tried to make a comeback using Polo7back but was quickly reminded that he was evading ban since polo7 is already banned permanently from the forum Looks funny but real. What amused me is the come back. He was trying to come back and still used it in his username. He definitely has more alts lying around. Sure, and more will definitely be discovered still. But I don't see him growing more than one account successfully. That capacity is not there.Op is correct. The post formatting pattern is same like a family chatgpt. Title: Re: Likely low quality poster alts. Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on May 14, 2024, 04:00:20 AM Hydrogen (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=68364) used to start a bunch of threads based on news articles, most of which were interesting enough that I'd either merit him or post something. Hydrogen's problem, if you see the neutral feedback icopress left him, is that he would open these threads from news he found, with a great quote and little commentary, and then disengage from the conversation. He was doing it to meet la quota and I was surprised he was in the CM. I guess he got in when there wasn't as much competition. In restrospect, Hydrogen was probably making those posts in Economics strictly for CM. However, the topics he'd post about that would spark discussion were pretty good IMO, and the quotes from news sources were ones I would never have found on my own, since I don't generally follow crypto news except for what I gather from bitcointalk. He also never even came close to the maximum number of posts for the CM campaign if I remember correctly, nor was he a shitposter, so I still have some appreciation for his participation in the Economics section. But the reason why it seems like he was just posting for pay is that he basically disappeared after the CM campaign ended. Oh well. Title: Re: Likely low quality poster alts. Post by: Poker Player on May 15, 2024, 04:58:08 AM Let's add another one to the list of possible alts of the who finds his inspiration with an overdose of Doritos and Monster, lol:
If you want to print money without equal to productivity of printed money amount in the real world then there is two ways how you can do that. ( The current orgie of gold rally its pretty much paper gold the London New York and China exchangers futures contracts just to speculate with gold price off course after that orgie the bill will be passed to commercial banks so they can direct this into MBS contracts and make the last call the start of mortgage orgie before the end of the bull circle) 1.You keep inflating the assets and real estate prices so they go up and rates go lower. 2.asset prices going down rates going up. Off course the rates never goes up right to way at the end of the bull circle the smarter money want to exit safely so the market start slowly making lower highs and keep getting rates inside the 20-30 year time frame of bear market more the ratio of higher rates higher than lower rates. We are at the end of the 30 year bull circle so the next circle will be higher rates and lower asset prices. The start of the long time period bear market means higher dollar value and better yield for usd holders nowdays for usdc stakers and higher rates on loans and mortgage contracts. I assume that the next rate cut/hike scenario would be inside 2 year time frame 2 lower rates and 6 higher rates. We entry into bear market so we see as usual investors traders and all the others start calling bottom is in but it keep getting lower and lower while at the end of the bear circle the dips will be even more deeper and people will be more scared the smarter money will be buying that time. So now the volatility will be here for the markets up and down traders can make good money but there will be not much for market investors. 20 years from here would be 2024+20= 2044 so the new bull circle can start when innovation will start also along with new funds what coming in to the markets. I would say that he has seen this thread and he has decided to create an alt without numbers in the nick to go unnoticed. But it is so obvious that it is him..... I don't want to say the obvious similarities because I assume he will read the thread and try to correct them as well. Title: Re: Likely low quality poster alts. Post by: Apocollapse on May 16, 2024, 05:09:24 AM Polo7back has been banned in the last month (https://bpip.org/Profile?p=Polo7back), so the moderator already notice him. I will report this topic to make moderators aware, if they're all alts, they all should be banned.
I'm not sure if we can say they're low quality posters because their topics still exist in Economy and didn't get locked. But I understand, most of the discussions are full of conspiracy and sometime not make sense, however we can correct them, just like when people didn't really understand with Bitcoin, then people who understand can correct it. The good thing is those posts are created by humans, not AI. Title: Re: Likely low quality poster alts. Post by: lovesmayfamilis on May 16, 2024, 09:36:43 AM Polo7back has been banned in the last month (https://bpip.org/Profile?p=Polo7back), so the moderator already notice him. I will report this topic to make moderators aware, if they're all alts, they all should be banned. We cannot provide valid evidence that all of these accounts are alternative, knowing that they often ban accounts that have any connections to previously banned accounts ones. But yes, the last account discovered by Poker Player belongs to all the other “heroes” of this topic. Just look how desperately he writes posts and in what quantity. Ten posts per day. And this is just one account. What can you say about such a person? He does not claim a company signature, nor does he post his posts for review by merit sources. Maybe he needs communication to somehow get a response from people? Does this behavior look like loneliness with a desire for recognition? We can ignore everyone. And the “economics” section takes on a rather boring look. :( https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/05/16/1N0hz.png Title: Re: Likely low quality poster alts. Post by: Poker Player on May 20, 2024, 04:31:00 AM Another one:
Limited supply so over the time there will be less coins so the idea of this are genius. Even If the btc price will be 500k than many holders might sell some of the coins but always will buy when lower price and will hold some bitcoins. No matter how high the price we weight btc value just with fiat currencies but it's deflationary against many other things like also to gold and If something is less then other things then off course it will have higher value. The limited supply idea of something it's genius and good for long term holding to have something wich keep wealth safe. Off course we can say that there is a lot of things less than other things weighted against them to compare their value but for example only btc now have the guaranteed mechanism of limited Supply and Halving. So the btc are for those who want to be rich and stay rich. Title: Re: Likely low quality poster alts. Post by: stompix on May 28, 2024, 12:54:02 PM Well, seems like he is at the end of the line, at least till now he was just posting crap, but now he has started talking to himself with his alts
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5497919.0;topicseen I wonder if it can go worse than this and he starts arguing with himself to the point he starts red tagging his own accounts ;D The guy obviously needs help that is not available on this forum. Title: Re: Likely low quality poster alts. Post by: Poker Player on May 29, 2024, 02:01:59 PM The guy obviously needs help that is not available on this forum. You're right, and that's why I didn't bother tagging the different accounts. He doesn't participate in campaigns and is so dumb that it's highly unlikely he's scamming anyone. Also, he obviously needs psychological and/or psychiatric help. Title: Re: Likely low quality poster alts. Post by: GeorgeJohn on June 08, 2024, 09:26:19 PM The way I do see economic section, it seems that people who posting their often is just trying to make discussion valueless, some of this new users don't know that making a quality post it doesn't been determined by how lengthy is your post, what matters is information you are inculcating or passing to other people, I have read in forum where someone make such references with back up proof, let me say it again, what matters is your content not how lengthy is your post, sometimes I skip reading a post that's lengthy except is a reputable member post..and if you want some to read and comprehend you when you're making lengthy post, ensure that you space the paragraphs, I think with that it will be more comprehensive to understand.
Title: Re: Likely low quality poster alts. Post by: JollyGood on June 08, 2024, 10:51:45 PM Not specific to just this case but the downside is that if associated accounts are not tagged (with a neutral at the very least) then they will remain an option for the puppeteer to try to use them for possible nefarious purposes. In this case, maybe help is not what is needed if the intended aim is to build up the accounts under the guise of normal conversations.
The guy obviously needs help that is not available on this forum. You're right, and that's why I didn't bother tagging the different accounts. He doesn't participate in campaigns and is so dumb that it's highly unlikely he's scamming anyone. Also, he obviously needs psychological and/or psychiatric help. Title: Re: Likely low quality poster alts. Post by: Sandra_hakeem on June 21, 2024, 09:53:14 PM Well, seems like he is at the end of the line, at least till now he was just posting crap, but now he has started talking to himself with his alts How ridiculous that can be. I read through his post and, it looks to me like he uses some kinda translators to write (I'm just thinking aloud) cause what he wrote over there doesn't make any sense to me.https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5497919.0;topicseen I wonder if it can go worse than this and he starts arguing with himself to the point he starts red tagging his own accounts ;D The guy obviously needs help that is not available on this forum. He clearly thinks he can engage in conversations with himself plus a huge language impediment without being noticed. Psychopath! I'm not sure if we can say they're low quality posters because their topics still exist in Economy and didn't get locked. That doesn't make them worthy of not being called a spam post for the most part of what it is... infact, It is what it is, no matter how long it may trend. I just don't see a need to own several alts when you can't even create a single identity. |
