Title: Can democracy really work here in Africa Post by: TEBTC on May 03, 2024, 09:16:26 AM Democracy is a form of government characterized by by majority role in which the power to choose their leaders is solely put in the hands of the masses . Democracy is characterized by some unique qualities like free and fair election with with duration of been in power and respect for rule of law
But unfortunately this is not the case in some African countries as the opposite is the case as in every election year that comes you hear of election violence, rigging of election to favour those in power, oppression and arrest of opposition figure infact the one that makes in thinking is influx of foreign and European observer to African elections This lead me to ask questions is democracy made for Africa or can we go back to the way we where governing our self before the advent of colonisation Guys let discuss why is African democracy so fragile and unstable that military is always taking over democratically elected government Title: Re: Can democracy really work here in Africa Post by: kentrolla on May 03, 2024, 08:24:02 PM Democracy should be given a chance in order for it to work but in Africa mostly it's millitary rule and numerous coups to get on power and at the same time I think we will see coups even for democratically elected candidates and we have seen this in Egypt (North Africa and middle East nation though).
I think it's because of power hungry war lord and maniac militants, it's really hard to go back to democracy. Title: Re: Can democracy really work here in Africa Post by: SATWAT on May 03, 2024, 08:36:22 PM Democracy should be given a chance in order for it to work but in Africa mostly it's millitary rule and numerous coups to get on power and at the same time I think we will see coups even for democratically elected candidates and we have seen this in Egypt (North Africa and middle East nation though). Completely agreed with your all statement about this with this region is never been easy as we have few big countries strong influence, and they need these military rulers which give them support and their required things which are they stealing and this is not possible in democracy so they also support these military rulers and coups groups which harm the countries and this region for their own interests.I think it's because of power hungry war lord and maniac militants, it's really hard to go back to democracy. In last few decades we are having too many conflicts which were just for the sack of interests of few big countries and not favorable for the common peoples but still happen and creating more troubles without any specific reason. Title: Re: Can democracy really work here in Africa Post by: Hispo on May 03, 2024, 11:55:54 PM I believe democracy is possible in Africa, probably in most African republics of the continent, but first the people of those countries where democracy is fragile need to be aware why military rule continues to happen through time to time in their countries.
I am not from Africa, but in my experience it is because people lose faith in democracy, since some bad democracies offer situations for people with bad intentions to profit their charges and positions through corruption. In a military rule, corruption can also take place but because of the centralization of power within a single warlord, because tend to assume it is likely for people to misbehave under the watch of a strong military regime. The natural wealth of African countries is also supposed to serve to the interest of their own nations, instead the person interest of a small elite, since that small elite use the name of democracy to carry out their selfish plans, unfortunately people has associated "Democracy" with corruption and legal theft of their future and wealth. When in reality corruption can happen regardless of the government system which is set in place. Title: Re: Can democracy really work here in Africa Post by: moneystery on May 04, 2024, 08:22:24 AM democracy should be implemented in countries where the majority of the population is educated, if it is implemented in countries with the majority of the population being uneducated, then the result will be anarchy or military rule. you can see how examples of democracy are implemented in many countries in africa, the result is that most of these countries end in coups or rebellions. because most countries in africa are not yet ready for democracy, the majority of them are suited to being led by an autocratic system.
Title: Re: Can democracy really work here in Africa Post by: Kelward on May 04, 2024, 09:03:34 AM democracy should be implemented in countries where the majority of the population is educated, if it is implemented in countries with the majority of the population being uneducated, then the result will be anarchy or military rule. you can see how examples of democracy are implemented in many countries in africa, the result is that most of these countries end in coups or rebellions. because most countries in africa are not yet ready for democracy, the majority of them are suited to being led by an autocratic system. I doubt that you're from Africa, because you would've known that we have many educated people and when it comes to good governance, both the educated and the uneducated wants democracy because we've seen that it's the way forward to have quality leadership that the people wants. Where we have problems is that there are wicked and selfish individuals who determines the political class that rules in most African countries, that is why people will come out on election days and vote massively for their preferred candidate, in the end the elections will be rigged in broad daylight and there's nothing that the educated people can do about it, because going to court is a waste of time. For democracy to survive in Africa, these political thugs must be removed from influencing elections, and how to do that is the question. Title: Re: Can democracy really work here in Africa Post by: Uhwuchukwu53 on May 15, 2024, 01:55:19 PM Clamouring or even hoping that democracy can strive in Africa is like those who expect the coming of their Messiah Jesus Christ. If if ask me I will say that democracy has done more harm than good looking at the level of embezzlement, looting and all sort of hinious crime that that place in our society, it's what you have seen it good change that one will think of given room to thrive, if you check the previous oast record in Africa you will realize that democracy has been given enough time but no improvement but reducing the economy development of Africa.
Title: Re: Can democracy really work here in Africa Post by: Dunamisx on May 15, 2024, 02:15:45 PM Democracy works and will continue to work in all part of the world, this is not a concern on Africa alone, but on the global effect, this is also more of a thing of politics and the people involved, if we really preached about politics, then we must know that its something all about freedom, we have to respect the peoples opinion in the adoption of democracy pattern of governance in other for everyone to be able to express their own interest.
Title: Re: Can democracy really work here in Africa Post by: Marvelockg on May 15, 2024, 03:25:29 PM Guys let discuss why is African democracy so fragile and unstable that military is always taking over democratically elected government Title: Re: Can democracy really work here in Africa Post by: liasbaa on May 17, 2024, 05:20:51 AM In some African countries, democracy exists only in name, mainly under the guise of anti-dictatorship and repression. For a long time foreign powers continued to rule much of Africa, now their shadows are operating and exploiting the people. Ahead of elections, parties try to seize power and create anarchic situations which are undesirable. Arrests have become commonplace to silence the opposition. But politically, this situation will not be easily resolved as foreign powers use political leaders they follow to run their shadow regimes in Africa.
Title: Re: Can democracy really work here in Africa Post by: Dunamisx on May 17, 2024, 02:34:47 PM If we are going to go deep into politics and the way of leadership in this contemporary world, we may also have to do away with the local traditions in which we do as inherited from our ancestors, some of these obligations are part of what is still affecting the way of running democracy in this new era and century, we all know that past then in the olden days, there is nothing like democracy, but this was later introduced for the people to also have say over what they want and who to lead them, which i expect as many of the African countries to also wake up from their local traditions in embracing through the new pattern of democracy.
Title: Re: Can democracy really work here in Africa Post by: Zanab247 on May 17, 2024, 02:59:25 PM Yes, Democracy can work in Africa, if the masses can stop selling their votes during election which is the tools many leaders in Africa are using to force themselves into power to miss use nations income to favor their family members alone.
But if the masses of Africa can stand against vote buying in all the countries in Africa, i guess their democracy will begin to work for the majority to elect who will lead them genuine in the land to bring more development to African. You need to know that Africa has quality leaders who can take Africa to her next level, if they can allow democracy to work in Africa which I know that Africa are very close to that stage because there are some countries will go down, when democracy begin to work in Africa because they will not have the opportunity to bribe African leaders anymore. Title: Re: Can democracy really work here in Africa Post by: DeathAngel on May 17, 2024, 04:42:21 PM African democracy can be fragile & prone to military takeovers due historical, political & economic factors. Many African nations have experienced colonial rule & subsequent struggles for independence which have left a legacy of weak institutions & divisions. Political instability, corruption & weak governance undermines democratic processes. Poverty & inequality can create conditions for discontent & social unrest.
Religious tensions fuel political instability. There is a cycle of insecurity enabling the military to exploit power vacuums & intervene in politics. Good governance & trying to address socio-economic disparities is crucial for achieving stable & resilient democracies in Africa. Title: Re: Can democracy really work here in Africa Post by: Volimack on May 17, 2024, 06:11:05 PM Because of this political situation in Africa, the quality of life of the common people has not improved for many years. The advantages of incorporating a democratic system of government over an autocratic regime include reducing the potential for corruption. Democracy helps prevent and promote corruption by promoting education and governance in the public interest.
Title: Re: Can democracy really work here in Africa Post by: uchegod-21 on May 17, 2024, 09:05:44 PM Democracy is a form of government characterized by by majority role in which the power to choose their leaders is solely put in the hands of the masses . Democracy is characterized by some unique qualities like free and fair election with with duration of been in power and respect for rule of law Most African countries maintain the type of government that their colonial masters practice. Some copy from foreign countries and implement their own country. But one thing they do is whether they inherited it or the copy it they do not do the exact same version that they are Western counterpart do. For instance, in my country Nigeria the method of federation that they are practicing is very different from the one their colonial masters are practicing. True federation that is being practice in UK whereby resource control is invoked is different from what is obtainable in Nigeria. The federal government control all resources and pay allocation to the States while in a reset the state is supposed to control their resources and pay tax or allocation to be federal. This would have fostered growth and competition for growth among states. But in a nutshell, democracy will not survive where corruptions rules.But unfortunately this is not the case in some African countries as the opposite is the case as in every election year that comes you hear of election violence, rigging of election to favour those in power, oppression and arrest of opposition figure infact the one that makes in thinking is influx of foreign and European observer to African elections This lead me to ask questions is democracy made for Africa or can we go back to the way we where governing our self before the advent of colonisation Guys let discuss why is African democracy so fragile and unstable that military is always taking over democratically elected government Title: Re: Can democracy really work here in Africa Post by: madawg on May 17, 2024, 10:06:54 PM Africa is too corrupt to to have democracy work because even if politicans are "democratically" elected they will still embezzle and nepotism will still carry on while at the same time blame the "colonial powers" for things when they have looted the country and everything falls apart. The only thing that works in Africa is plutocracy.
Title: Re: Can democracy really work here in Africa Post by: BADecker on May 18, 2024, 01:33:53 AM Democracy is a form of government characterized by by majority role in which the power to choose their leaders is solely put in the hands of the masses . Democracy is characterized by some unique qualities like free and fair election with with duration of been in power and respect for rule of law But unfortunately this is not the case in some African countries as the opposite is the case as in every election year that comes you hear of election violence, rigging of election to favour those in power, oppression and arrest of opposition figure infact the one that makes in thinking is influx of foreign and European observer to African elections This lead me to ask questions is democracy made for Africa or can we go back to the way we where governing our self before the advent of colonisation Guys let discuss why is African democracy so fragile and unstable that military is always taking over democratically elected government Democracy doesn't work for the people anywhere. Why? Because the people elected to power do whatever they want, anyway. 8) Title: Re: Can democracy really work here in Africa Post by: mu_enrico on May 18, 2024, 05:18:05 AM Democracy can work anywhere; however, it isn't the cure for all problems. It all comes back to the quality of the people involved. If you put incompetent people in charge, you'll get poor results. Whatever system you use, you need to have freedom confined by law and order. Some countries in the past experienced tyrannical governments first to establish law and order, leading to improvements in education and economic growth. Eventually, people became dissatisfied with the tyrannical regime, brought it down, and moved to democracy.
Title: Re: Can democracy really work here in Africa Post by: BADecker on May 18, 2024, 05:32:11 AM Democracy doesn't work for the people anywhere... except by accident. Why not? Because the government still goes into the hands of the elected dictators.
The only way Democracy can work for the people of a nation is if there is a Republic that the people are under, sitting right next to the Democracy, a Republic that can't be controlled by the Democracy except in very limited ways. This is what was set in place by the people of the USA. US people think that they must obey the Democracy because they have forgotten that they are in the Republic part. But some of them are waking up... even though the Democracy is working as hard as they can to keep the people from remembering. 8) Title: Re: Can democracy really work here in Africa Post by: Rockstarguy on May 18, 2024, 07:22:49 AM Yes, Democracy can work in Africa, if the masses can stop selling their votes during election which is the tools many leaders in Africa are using to force themselves into power to miss use nations income to favor their family members alone. I agree with you , the masses not being united can be used by politicians to get what they want, you look countries that democracy is fragile you will notice that the people are not united and politicians understand this game very well. Politicians that are desperate in occupying political positions their first agenda is to put division within the people, if the masses can clearly understand this very well it will be difficult for Politicians to play their games. I have always the masses have the power to choose whomever they want as leaders but some people don't know this and they allow politicians to take advantage of them.But if the masses of Africa can stand against vote buying in all the countries in Africa, i guess their democracy will begin to work for the majority to elect who will lead them genuine in the land to bring more development to African. Politicians knows how powerful the masses are, that is why when it is close to election they worship the masses and her ready to do anything for them just because of what they are aspiring for. Title: Re: Can democracy really work here in Africa Post by: Gozie51 on May 18, 2024, 09:51:36 AM Democracy is a form of government characterized by by majority role in which the power to choose their leaders is solely put in the hands of the masses . Democracy is characterized by some unique qualities like free and fair election with with duration of been in power and respect for rule of law This is one key institution that makes the difference in democracy but it is obviously missing in African societies. First you need to have a genuine democratically elected government through the ballot. Even though no society is perfect and in the light of this, African governments are suppose to strive to get to the level of same democratic system that other countries have and then certain norma will be seen as an aberration to stand practice all over the world. There is no rule of law in all African society. Head of states in these countries are like gods that their words are order instead of constitution becoming the fundamentals of laws. And so these putrid abnormalities solidify corruption in all spheres of the economy by the cronies of government officials while social amenities become inachievable like because monies have been embezzled. It is a sad story in Africa, causing masses to escape to other countinent for job and good standard of living therefore increase braindrain becomes the tale of the African continent. Title: Re: Can democracy really work here in Africa Post by: BADecker on May 20, 2024, 02:39:14 AM Anybody who is considering Africa, should look at the history of Tippoo Tib in the late 1800's. A doctor, Heinrich Brodie, wrote an excellent history that you can find here - https://archive.org/details/tippootibstoryof00brod/mode/2up - and in other places.
Tippoo Tib was an Arab. But he looked like a black. Born around 1832, and died in 1905, Tippoo Tib was a Muslim slave trader in Africa. There are several variant spellings of his name. Here's his picture. 8) Title: Re: Can democracy really work here in Africa Post by: Ethan151 on May 20, 2024, 12:56:11 PM Not all of Africa is experiencing democracy, but certain regions are. Simply put, selfishness has led African leaders to opt to put themselves first. I think a single global currency would be better for democracy and good governance since national leaders are taking national assets to compete with individuals from other countries, such as America, Europe, and so on.
Title: Re: Can democracy really work here in Africa Post by: Asiska02 on May 20, 2024, 05:52:30 PM This lead me to ask questions is democracy made for Africa or can we go back to the way we where governing our self before the advent of colonisation Guys let discuss why is African democracy so fragile and unstable that military is always taking over democratically elected government When technology has advanced, we can’t because of the little disadvantages of them not use the newest technology around that will make things easier for us. So is the case of Africa, we can’t go back to the colonisation era when everyone have enjoyed what it feels to be free and not under any dictatorship. Other continents that have embraced democracy are not like the African continent, have you thought about why it is so? We just have to accept the fact that our leaders are corrupt and without standing up against them all, we will not enjoy what other countries that have embraced democracy are enjoying. We can’t go back to colonialism, we should respect the rule of law and everything will be fine. democracy should be implemented in countries where the majority of the population is educated, if it is implemented in countries with the majority of the population being uneducated, then the result will be anarchy or military rule. you can see how examples of democracy are implemented in many countries in africa, the result is that most of these countries end in coups or rebellions. because most countries in africa are not yet ready for democracy, the majority of them are suited to being led by an autocratic system. I am not certain about your opinion that it is because of the Africa’s most populous people not educated that they don’t know how to practice democracy or practice it without any problems conceived from it. If you’d said it was because of selfish interest, it would have been better and more reasonable as a point why it is so. With selfish interest of leaders they can easily deceive the general public that are not educated into stealing the fortunes that are meant for the people for their self use. If your followers are not educated and you’re a Just leader, you can have a democratically government governed well with peace and equity. Title: Re: Can democracy really work here in Africa Post by: Ever-young on May 21, 2024, 07:38:14 AM Democracy should be given a chance in order for it to work but in Africa mostly it's millitary rule and numerous coups to get on power and at the same time I think we will see coups even for democratically elected candidates and we have seen this in Egypt (North Africa and middle East nation though). I think it's because of power hungry war lord and maniac militants, it's really hard to go back to democracy. Yea, you are right, it's very very hard to go back to democracy again, as it has been already abused because most of our leaders seen military rule as the most effective in a way to rule us, and they are no longer interested to know the well being of their people, they do things for their own pleasure and we don't have any other choice than to just adhere to their order meanwhile democracy is not done that way. Title: Re: Can democracy really work here in Africa Post by: madawg on May 23, 2024, 11:11:40 PM Another question that could be asked is "can democracy really work?" due to it either eventually turning into plutocracy once the institutions/pillars of democracy are captured or despotism once ignorant rabble of masses elect demagogues or arrogant social planners to run the shitshow.
Less guberment and a better informed/educated (in the sense of reality and not fiction) is the best option ..."in my opinion" (disclaimer: but but but ..mainly the ignorant have opinions) Can't win really :( Title: Re: Can democracy really work here in Africa Post by: royalfestus on May 23, 2024, 11:41:26 PM Another question that could be asked is "can democracy really work?" due to it either eventually turning into plutocracy once the institutions/pillars of democracy are captured or despotism once ignorant rabble of masses elect demagogues or arrogant social planners to run the shitshow. Leadership in Africa remains largely unchanged, with leaders often making decisions arbitrarily. During colonial times, colonial powers incentivized local leaders to make decisions that facilitated slavery, and those who resisted were killed. Today's leaders, operating under a facade of democracy, are similarly self-serving. They enact laws that promote corruption, use the police for personal protection, and receive support from certain self-interested international governments that benefit from their regimes.Less guberment and a better informed/educated (in the sense of reality and not fiction) is the best option ..."in my opinion" (disclaimer: but but but ..mainly the ignorant have opinions) Can't win really :( Title: Re: Can democracy really work here in Africa Post by: tsaroz on May 23, 2024, 11:53:44 PM For democracy to really work, there should be a high degree of literacy and prosperity in the society. It's possible but hard for democracy to create a prosperous nation from a poor one. Most of the successful democracy now had some degree of autocracy that brought them prosperity that enabled them to create a working democracy.
Democracy doesn't work when the people are poor and uneducated. The political leader becomes corrupt and tries to keep the population in misery so that they can easily manipulate the vote either with money or with threat. They create fake enemies and fake events to deviate the focus of the population and their politics depends upon keeping the population in poverty. Title: Re: Can democracy really work here in Africa Post by: Hispo on May 24, 2024, 12:17:54 AM For democracy to really work, there should be a high degree of literacy and prosperity in the society. It's possible but hard for democracy to create a prosperous nation from a poor one. Most of the successful democracy now had some degree of autocracy that brought them prosperity that enabled them to create a working democracy. Democracy doesn't work when the people are poor and uneducated. The political leader becomes corrupt and tries to keep the population in misery so that they can easily manipulate the vote either with money or with threat. They create fake enemies and fake events to deviate the focus of the population and their politics depends upon keeping the population in poverty. I do not completely agree with your explanation on democracy and the conditions which are necessary for it to thrive in a country. It may be dependant rather on the historical context and the cultural context in which democracy is trying to exist in the long term. Look as Germany for example, after the defeat of the First Reich, Germany became a very poor country (when compared to the European standards), inflation was so high people rathered to burn money instead using the money to buy lumber for the winter, among other horrible experiences. Even though the situation of the Weimar Republic was dire and many people felt hopeless, it was a relatively good functioning democracy, the same democracy which allowed the National socialist party to climb onto power in the first place, from there all what followed was a dismantling of democracy and the building of good times for the german people, in detriment of foreigners and the Jewish people. Democracy was exist in many situations and it is supposed to be the tool for the people to vote out bad leaders and keep those who are worthy of the position, if that does not happen, then democracy is being vulnerated or altered in some indirect way. Title: Re: Can democracy really work here in Africa Post by: BADecker on May 24, 2024, 08:46:07 PM Can democracy really work here in Africa
Democracy works great for the dictators. Why? Because people feel good... "I got to help select the leader I wanted by my vote." All the leaders are Dictators. Some are good and some are bad. But Democracy works for them. And if the leader is a bad dictator, Democracy works against the people. 8) Title: Re: Can democracy really work here in Africa Post by: Riginac111 on May 24, 2024, 10:09:38 PM Democracy works and will continue to work in all part of the world, this is not a concern on Africa alone, but on the global effect, this is also more of a thing of politics and the people involved, if we really preached about politics, then we must know that its something all about freedom, we have to respect the peoples opinion in the adoption of democracy pattern of governance in other for everyone to be able to express their own interest. for now I don't think that I like democratic leadership in my country precisely I think it that what will favor us is a military rule because the Democratic government has fed us in the sense that they are in hardship and the any of this leader is looking for the interest of the family not the interest of the citizen so I believe that a democratic government is not in favor of citizenTitle: Re: Can democracy really work here in Africa Post by: Hopila on May 27, 2024, 01:54:56 PM Clamouring or even hoping that democracy can strive in Africa is like those who expect the coming of their Messiah Jesus Christ. If if ask me I will say that democracy has done more harm than good looking at the level of embezzlement, looting and all sort of hinious crime that that place in our society, it's what you have seen it good change that one will think of given room to thrive, if you check the previous oast record in Africa you will realize that democracy has been given enough time but no improvement but reducing the economy development of Africa. It actually beats my imagination to see how you fell about democracy not taking a positive twist in Africa.Because for me,I think democracy can actually work perfectly if the elected leaders (politicians)are practicing democracy the right way without any form of dictatorship. So for me democracy can actually work if it's been practice the right way. Title: Re: Can democracy really work here in Africa Post by: Dunamisx on May 28, 2024, 05:29:03 AM Democracy has been working and could actually continue working only if the people will allow for that to exist, we are the same ones that influences a change, makes demands on what we want and also support the leaders on every of their actions taken, in which in the order of leadership, democracy permits for general or public opinion in its way of leadership unlike the military rule.
Title: Re: Can democracy really work here in Africa Post by: JMBitcointernational on May 28, 2024, 02:04:11 PM Democracy should be given a chance in order for it to work but in Africa mostly it's millitary rule and numerous coups to get on power and at the same time I think we will see coups even for democratically elected candidates and we have seen this in Egypt (North Africa and middle East nation though). My dear mate i sincerely agree with you, in Africa the quest for power is quite alarming and virtually all the African leaders are very greedy and selfish, they don't have the interest of the citizens at heart and that's why we experience coup from time to time, they don't have respects for fundamental human rights and treat her citizens as animal and also deprive them of freedom. however, the chances of having a good democracy in Africa is very rare because African don't have sincere leaders and few sincere ones have been killed by the bad ones.I think it's because of power hungry war lord and maniac militants, it's really hard to go back to democracy. From experience and learning, i learnt that democracy is government of the people by the people and for the people, but in Africa the reverse is the case, because their leaders don't have even value the masses that voted them into different offices so democracy really cannot work perfectly in Africa because Africa is still a developing continent. Title: Re: Can democracy really work here in Africa Post by: madawg on March 13, 2025, 10:08:16 PM Africa is a shithole full of islamist terrorists and marxists :-(
Title: Re: Can democracy really work here in Africa Post by: uneng on March 13, 2025, 10:53:36 PM There aren't perfect systems. Monarchies, democracies, tyrannies, oligarchies... All of them can work nicely or disastrously depending the individuals who compose the society (and who are in charge of power). When you have a large percentage of uneducated people, who at same time weren't taught ethics since an early age, you can expect results to be bad for society once those individuals grow older and become adults in charge of every sectors in this society.
And it's not about Africa in particular I'm talking about. It's a worldwide phenomenon observed in every continents nowadays. Political systems have failed miserably and none of them can save countries, economies or subjects. The only solution is that each subject improves his conducts on his daily routine, treating others like they wish to be treated. On long run, it can have a positive impact in society, being it a democracy or not. Title: Re: Can democracy really work here in Africa Post by: Y3shot on March 14, 2025, 02:35:55 PM Democracy will continue to be fragile in Africa until Africa works on its electoral system where by the people cam be able to choose their own leaders. Africa is still having problems with their electoral system it means democracy will be very difficult to work . When we talk about democracy people should have the power to choose who they want as leaders but in the case whereby choosing leaders are not free and fair it means democracy will be compromise, Africa needs to work on their electoral system to choose good leaders and not for God fathers to choose who will be leader.
Title: Re: Can democracy really work here in Africa Post by: Hispo on March 14, 2025, 03:02:17 PM Democracy will continue to be fragile in Africa until Africa works on its electoral system where by the people cam be able to choose their own leaders. Africa is still having problems with their electoral system it means democracy will be very difficult to work . When we talk about democracy people should have the power to choose who they want as leaders but in the case whereby choosing leaders are not free and fair it means democracy will be compromise, Africa needs to work on their electoral system to choose good leaders and not for God fathers to choose who will be leader. What you called godfather is what I assume to be people with in an important economical and social power, who are able to influence the population into voting for specific candidates, right? In that case, it would not be news to you that here in the west and even in countries where democracy is considered to be strong there are also some similar figures who try to influence the political landscape of their country. In the United States, you could say those who are called "donors" are the equivalent to African godfathers, being the main difference that their contribution is mostly economical, in favor of the candidate who fits their agenda. If Africa wants to become more democratic, it is up to them to start to ignore and disregard godfathers and weaken the influence they have over the people to direct politics. The important thing is not to give up on democracy and keep trying to reach a more just society where the people govern for the people. Title: Re: Can democracy really work here in Africa Post by: Juicyhome on March 14, 2025, 05:44:35 PM No Africa was not designed for democracy, true nature of an African is monarchy. Africa would've done better if it was run by its original nature of monarchy system. Democracy is too library it gives everyone equal rights, everyone can vote and ve voted for. That's the origin of Africa problems, everyone in a democratic system wants to rule, abd when they finally got the position they won't want to leave because of the juicy things in the position. That's why we have more bad leaders in Africa than anywhere in the world, democracy destroyed Africa unity, the monarchy system helps the people not to be eager for position since its hereditary, only one family are allowed to rule. And its was good for Africa, whereas the next in line would be thought about the traditions and customs for years before he will be declared fit to rule.
But in democracy no leadership training, one that doesn't have any ideas about political system will use his wealth to find his way into power. At the end he will perform poorly and accumulate so much wealth for himself. Africa should go back to its traditional rulership. Title: Re: Can democracy really work here in Africa Post by: Y3shot on March 14, 2025, 06:05:50 PM Democracy will continue to be fragile in Africa until Africa works on its electoral system where by the people cam be able to choose their own leaders. Africa is still having problems with their electoral system it means democracy will be very difficult to work . When we talk about democracy people should have the power to choose who they want as leaders but in the case whereby choosing leaders are not free and fair it means democracy will be compromise, Africa needs to work on their electoral system to choose good leaders and not for God fathers to choose who will be leader. What you called godfather is what I assume to be people with in an important economical and social power, who are able to influence the population into voting for specific candidates, right? In that case, it would not be news to you that here in the west and even in countries where democracy is considered to be strong there are also some similar figures who try to influence the political landscape of their country. In the United States, you could say those who are called "donors" are the equivalent to African godfathers, being the main difference that their contribution is mostly economical, in favor of the candidate who fits their agenda. If Africa wants to become more democratic, it is up to them to start to ignore and disregard godfathers and weaken the influence they have over the people to direct politics. The important thing is not to give up on democracy and keep trying to reach a more just society where the people govern for the people. Title: Re: Can democracy really work here in Africa Post by: Zoomic on March 14, 2025, 10:29:13 PM No Africa was not designed for democracy, true nature of an African is monarchy. Africa would've done better if it was run by its original nature of monarchy system. Democracy is too library it gives everyone equal rights, everyone can vote and ve voted for. That's the origin of Africa problems, everyone in a democratic system wants to rule, abd when they finally got the position they won't want to leave because of the juicy things in the position. That's why we have more bad leaders in Africa than anywhere in the world, democracy destroyed Africa unity, the monarchy system helps the people not to be eager for position since its hereditary, only one family are allowed to rule. And its was good for Africa, whereas the next in line would be thought about the traditions and customs for years before he will be declared fit to rule. This is really interesting, and at some point, I wanted to agree with everything you said. But let's consider this: with the level of exposure now, many Africans will become 'wiser,' and some might resort to coups just to overthrow the sitting government who is expected to rule till death comes knocking.But in democracy no leadership training, one that doesn't have any ideas about political system will use his wealth to find his way into power. At the end he will perform poorly and accumulate so much wealth for himself. Africa should go back to its traditional rulership. From my findings, most of these African countries operated a decentralized system of governance, which made it quite difficult for everyone to unite, this will be a major barrier for them, especially when relating with foreign countries. Considering also the fact that almost all African countries were colonized by foreigners who, in turn, introduced their foreign systems of government, Africans who have been power-hungry for a while now will prefer democracy so they can all have a share of the national cake. The problem with Africans is corruption, not the system of government being practiced. Even if they embrace monarchy again today, they will still ruin everything with their excessive greed and corruption. Title: Re: Can democracy really work here in Africa Post by: magistrator on March 15, 2025, 09:05:36 AM Africa is just resources and that's it, the people are untrained there.
Title: Re: Can democracy really work here in Africa Post by: letteredhub on March 16, 2025, 09:34:21 AM Democracy should be given a chance in order for it to work but in Africa mostly it's millitary rule and numerous coups to get on power and at the same time I think we will see coups even for democratically elected candidates and we have seen this in Egypt (North Africa and middle East nation though). I am an African, and I have noticed that most of these military coups that have taken place in different countries of Africa is as a result of two phenomenon. That of corruption and political tension.Many times the military has intervened is due to the height of corruption and looting of the commonwealth by the so-called democratic elected officials who obviously got into power through elections rigging and vote buying. While that of political tension is caused by the said corrupt practices which has led to opposition attacks from the different political parties and their followers. The military has always come in to bring back sanity and discipline within the system. And I can tell you about his for free, that democracy has done little or nothing to countries like Nigeria due to the political leaders it has produced over the years. The best time's in the memories of the country people had always been those of military times. I don't think democracy favours Africa as it does with the Western world. Title: Re: Can democracy really work here in Africa Post by: Hispo on March 17, 2025, 04:27:55 PM Democracy should be given a chance in order for it to work but in Africa mostly it's millitary rule and numerous coups to get on power and at the same time I think we will see coups even for democratically elected candidates and we have seen this in Egypt (North Africa and middle East nation though). I am an African, and I have noticed that most of these military coups that have taken place in different countries of Africa is as a result of two phenomenon. That of corruption and political tension.Many times the military has intervened is due to the height of corruption and looting of the commonwealth by the so-called democratic elected officials who obviously got into power through elections rigging and vote buying. While that of political tension is caused by the said corrupt practices which has led to opposition attacks from the different political parties and their followers. The military has always come in to bring back sanity and discipline within the system. And I can tell you about his for free, that democracy has done little or nothing to countries like Nigeria due to the political leaders it has produced over the years. The best time's in the memories of the country people had always been those of military times. I don't think democracy favours Africa as it does with the Western world. Perhaps, it would be different if people from Africa knew and appreciated the value of their vote and the voice. Sure, it is a almost impossible thing to do when the system is rigged against you and the military seems to be the only way to kick the corrupt, but in my eyes, the military people can be as corrupt as those in power, who were elected democratically. At least, you could say, they are countries in Africa in which the executive power is separated from the military power, so they can check on one another, but when the executive and the military become one it is when real problems start to appear and there is nobody to kick the corrupt off their high seats. Still, I believe a happy and democratic African Republic is possible but it may need a cultural change for the people of Nigeria (for example). Title: Re: Can democracy really work here in Africa Post by: letteredhub on March 17, 2025, 08:57:06 PM Democracy should be given a chance in order for it to work but in Africa mostly it's millitary rule and numerous coups to get on power and at the same time I think we will see coups even for democratically elected candidates and we have seen this in Egypt (North Africa and middle East nation though). I am an African, and I have noticed that most of these military coups that have taken place in different countries of Africa is as a result of two phenomenon. That of corruption and political tension.Many times the military has intervened is due to the height of corruption and looting of the commonwealth by the so-called democratic elected officials who obviously got into power through elections rigging and vote buying. While that of political tension is caused by the said corrupt practices which has led to opposition attacks from the different political parties and their followers. The military has always come in to bring back sanity and discipline within the system. And I can tell you about his for free, that democracy has done little or nothing to countries like Nigeria due to the political leaders it has produced over the years. The best time's in the memories of the country people had always been those of military times. I don't think democracy favours Africa as it does with the Western world. Perhaps, it would be different if people from Africa knew and appreciated the value of their vote and the voice. Sure, it is a almost impossible thing to do when the system is rigged against you and the military seems to be the only way to kick the corrupt, but in my eyes, the military people can be as corrupt as those in power, who were elected democratically. At least, you could say, they are countries in Africa in which the executive power is separated from the military power, so they can check on one another, but when the executive and the military become one it is when real problems start to appear and there is nobody to kick the corrupt off their high seats. Still, I believe a happy and democratic African Republic is possible but it may need a cultural change for the people of Nigeria (for example). The military may not be a good option from your perspective base on your political culture of your milieu it makes democracy appears to be the best but truth is it's not working well for others based on how it's inconsistent with their own political culture as a people. There are many democratic governments today in Africa where the administration is worse than a military rule, the different arms of government are all controlled by the executive and there exists no checks and balances. Fact check history of the African states unbiased and genuinely, the military has always been the means to restore some level of normalcy back to the political system after a period regime. Title: Re: Can democracy really work here in Africa Post by: Yucky on March 18, 2025, 02:40:39 PM Currently democracy is not working in any African country most of the African leaders are using military force they are oppressing, citizens can't even speak up when you speak up you are being threatened. so there is no democracy in a lot of African countries, it's just a cover for military rule, we rely on God to show mercy because the leaders are not even hearing the cries of people.
Inflation is on the increase everyday insecurity is on the increase, citizens have limited opportunities, other countries deny Africans some opportunities just because their country is underperforming, the discrimination keep increasing the hardship, the struggle to even break free keep increasing. If there was democracy the people would have had a say but people don't really have a say so democracay is not working right now. Title: Re: Can democracy really work here in Africa Post by: Die_empty on March 18, 2025, 02:43:13 PM Africa is just resources and that's it, the people are untrained there. You are not far from the truth; Africa has been a raw material bank for developed nations. Developing nations have refused to assist build industries in Africa to create jobs and train human resources. Rather they prefer to site industries in their home country and sell the finished products in Africa. Bad governance has also contributed to the underdevelopment of Africa. Bribery, corruption and embezzlement are popular in the continent. But things are changing. African nationals have started developing themselves and are doing well in different fields. Illiteracy might be high in the continent but more people are becoming skillful and educated in different profession. Title: Re: Can democracy really work here in Africa Post by: BADecker on March 18, 2025, 06:46:34 PM Note that, in the distant past, many great things came out of Africa. Note, also, that nobody can lump Africa together as ONE, because Africa is made up of many nations and peoples and tribes that are all different from each other.
Suggesting Africa having Democracy is a completely moot point. Some of the various nations might be Democracies. Others might be Republics or Dictatorships (Note that if a nation is a Democracy, it really is a group Dictatorship in disguise because of the way a Democracy works following elections.) This whole thread has lots of good points, but it seems to be missing the main ideas that I mention in this post. 8) Title: Re: Can democracy really work here in Africa Post by: Dunamisx on March 19, 2025, 02:34:09 PM The act of democracy is a true display of humanity, if you don't have the care to consider for others first, then you're probably not eligible to go into democracy, most of our leaders are not getting all these rights, because they think democracy is all about their own self and personal ambitions, while things don't really work like that, politics is being practiced everywhere, the world needs the realization of what real politics is all about and this is not about African challenge alone but the world entirely.
Title: Re: Can democracy really work here in Africa Post by: Reynaldo on March 19, 2025, 05:44:42 PM The external influence problem, foreign powers continue to exert control through puppet leaders and resource extraction of resources, so in theory yes you can have democracy, but its a long road.
Title: Re: Can democracy really work here in Africa Post by: macson on March 19, 2025, 06:52:40 PM Africa is just resources and that's it, the people are untrained there. But do they want to be a resource for developed countries forever? If they do not think about their fate now, then they will forever be a backward country, fooled by developed countries, and not develop like countries in the Asian region. They need to act faster to build their country, by training their human resources, utilizing their natural resources, and reducing corruption. If they only think about power and corruption, then African countries will forever be backward countries, no matter how much assistance they get from other countries. Title: Re: Can democracy really work here in Africa Post by: Nothingtodo on March 20, 2025, 01:49:32 AM Democracy is limited only to paper and pen, but in reality, democracy is not being implemented at all in any country. The government that comes to power in a country takes whatever steps are necessary to perpetuate that country's power. The abuse of democracy is not limited to Africa alone, but widespread abuse of democracy is also being observed in Asia. Among the abuses of democracy, the abuse of voting rights and the lack of a transparent government system are the most prominent.
Title: Re: Can democracy really work here in Africa Post by: Kelward on March 20, 2025, 07:43:57 AM Democracy in most African countries is a scam because leaders are imposed on the people, and I wonder why they even bother to have elections. Winning elections in these countries depends on the contestants that are loyal to the cabals that controls the economy and if their stooge enters and is no longer loyal, he'll be impeached and removed. Sometimes when a strong leader enters power he becomes a dictator, manipulating elections to continue in power. Ballot box snatching is a common sight in most African countries and manipulation of results is a normal thing.
We have great minds, people with proven intergrity that can move their nations forward but they can never be allowed to win because they will fight corruption. Frankly I don't know which way forward for the continent, most of the leaders are very corrupt and they don't care if the majority of their citizens are in deep poverty. Title: Re: Can democracy really work here in Africa Post by: AVE5 on March 20, 2025, 11:00:05 AM The system of democracy governance lost it right in Africa whereas the military doesn't have a say of it own at where necessary rather they're being regulated and taking order by the government just for their (democratic authorities) interests.
So the military can't interfere on issues that're meant to be of their jurisdictions without the audacity of the government. I understand that if the military would have unregulating power from the democracy, there might be possiblities of coup but it just become unfortunate that the military interference in the Africans societies of democracies is being politicized just for the interest of those (government) in power and the military have no diploma ultrans to intervein on the democratic governance misconducts rather they're only exhibiting it power on the common masses while those in official position who're the architects discomforting the societies are being overlooked. Okay just in Nigerian democratic president Tinubu (https://saharareporters.com/2025/03/18/breaking-tinubu-deploys-military-take-over-rivers-state-government-house-after) called on State of emergency and deploys military to take over Rivers State government just after the States governor was impeached due to political disagreement between the past governor and his successor. Meanwhile the state has been of conducive for it residents meaning there hasn't been a security threats about it. However, the presidents motive of taking this action was for his political interest for second tenure comes 2027 since the incumbent governor was in the democratic opposition party while the past Rivers State governor is on the side of the president. So the president using the two persons political issues to set the State on irrelevant emergency using the military to silent the democratic governance. So with all the selfish interests in the democratic governance in African politics, I'd be difficult to achieve a real form of democracy here. Title: Re: Can democracy really work here in Africa Post by: Mene_rence on March 20, 2025, 11:19:56 AM Democracy is a form of government characterized by by majority role in which the power to choose their leaders is solely put in the hands of the masses . Democracy is characterized by some unique qualities like free and fair election with with duration of been in power and respect for rule of law Though we love the idea of Democracy, the practice of 100% democracy is not possible in Africa. It is evident that both the so called democratic leaders and it citizens can't operate under democracy where the citizens themselves have more authority in governance and their voice is heard. The Africans are power drunk and can do anything to manipulate their way into power. They make the law but the rule of law do not apply to them, they seem to be above the law. The citizens are as same with their so called leaders cos those leaders where first citizens. But unfortunately this is not the case in some African countries as the opposite is the case as in every election year that comes you hear of election violence, rigging of election to favour those in power, oppression and arrest of opposition figure infact the one that makes in thinking is influx of foreign and European observer to African elections This lead me to ask questions is democracy made for Africa or can we go back to the way we where governing our self before the advent of colonisation Guys let discuss why is African democracy so fragile and unstable that military is always taking over democratically elected government Africans have a depraved mindset about leadership. They think it's about control and forcing your way in everything. They think for them to have dominion, they have to use force, and they do it by every means available, including trampling on the constitutional rights of the citizen. If we really want to go back to the practice of democracy, the first thing to do is mind orientation of what leadership and governance really is. We need to know that governance is about serving the will of the people and not serving your selfish interest. We need to know that the rights of the citizens matters more. Title: Re: Can democracy really work here in Africa Post by: Bright0515 on March 20, 2025, 01:43:22 PM In Africa I describe democracy as a possible spoken word.
Democracy is deceit. In Africa they promise democracy but what we see at the end is autocracy and it's high time we shift our mindsets from democracy and know where we belong to. These leaders are too autocratic, a democracy that oppresses the masses, a democracy that kills, a democracy that denies a common man his voice we should know who we are and stop being deceived by this democracy of a thing there is no democracy in Africa my country precisely. Title: Re: Can democracy really work here in Africa Post by: Zanab247 on March 21, 2025, 08:42:51 AM Democracy should be given a chance in order for it to work but in Africa mostly it's millitary rule and numerous coups to get on power and at the same time I think we will see coups even for democratically elected candidates and we have seen this in Egypt (North Africa and middle East nation though). That is why it will be hard for democracy to work perfectly well in Africa, because military regime will not allow freedom to happen in a particular countries in Africa which is what some countries in Africa is facing today. How can ordinary civilians fight for democracy in the hands of military regime and win in the hands of people that have the power to crush down a nation within an hour, and nobody can withstand military regime. But according to the constitution of my country, president don't have the power to suspend elected governor in a state without the approval of the house of assembly because assembly members have the power to question the governor for any misconduct in the state. Title: Re: Can democracy really work here in Africa Post by: Hispo on March 21, 2025, 10:17:36 AM Democracy is limited only to paper and pen, but in reality, democracy is not being implemented at all in any country. The government that comes to power in a country takes whatever steps are necessary to perpetuate that country's power. The abuse of democracy is not limited to Africa alone, but widespread abuse of democracy is also being observed in Asia. Among the abuses of democracy, the abuse of voting rights and the lack of a transparent government system are the most prominent. Even though you are right to say there is abuse of power and abuse of democracy in many countries around the planet, it would be unfair to generalize all democratics countries under the same affirmation. There are countries in which democracy is pretty much well-functioning and their elections are considered to be fair and transparent. Uruguay is a good example of it, I think. Besides, the alternative to democracy is tyrany and autocracy, which is obvious if you take a look at countries like north Korea, Cuba and even China, where people do not have any chance to exercise their power to guide their own destiny. I believe Africa can harbor democratic values in an effective way, but it would require a deep change within their culture and way of thinking. Title: Re: Can democracy really work here in Africa Post by: knowngunman on March 21, 2025, 11:31:34 AM Democracy in most African countries is a scam because leaders are imposed on the people, and I wonder why they even bother to have elections. Winning elections in these countries depends on the contestants that are loyal to the cabals that controls the economy and if their stooge enters and is no longer loyal, he'll be impeached and removed. Sometimes when a strong leader enters power he becomes a dictator, manipulating elections to continue in power. Ballot box snatching is a common sight in most African countries and manipulation of results is a normal thing. We have great minds, people with proven intergrity that can move their nations forward but they can never be allowed to win because they will fight corruption. Frankly I don't know which way forward for the continent, most of the leaders are very corrupt and they don't care if the majority of their citizens are in deep poverty. Frankly speaking, Africa has unfortunately become the centre of discussion when bad government is at play but the truth is that democracy has not been perfect in almost all of the countries that practice it. It's just that it is more fairer in some countries than it is in other countries. Even America that preach democracy, her citizens complain of election manipulation and irregularities especially during Trump first tenure. Without doubt, corruption has been on rampant in African countries than one could think of due to absence/lack of punishment. Sadly, the people waiting for the opportunity to steal from public funds are much more than people stealing already. This shows how hard it is for Africans to overcome the issue of corruption which has set the continent on the backwards for years now. Title: Re: Can democracy really work here in Africa Post by: Roseline492 on March 21, 2025, 11:50:15 AM Okay just in Nigerian democratic president Tinubu (https://saharareporters.com/2025/03/18/breaking-tinubu-deploys-military-take-over-rivers-state-government-house-after) called on State of emergency and deploys military to take over Rivers State government just after the States governor was impeached due to political disagreement between the past governor and his successor. I see the whole thing as just an exercise of power and absolute denial of democracy because I believe as a country before certain actions there would always be a deliberation exclusive of the president of the country because that's not his duty, so after those things are being judged by the evidence before action can be taking but those thing was neglected as if there was no democracy on the country, however even if President must do that it doesn't warrant a state of emergency because there was no fight in the state that requires the military to takeover, so usually an ordinary person who should have acted as the government till is being resolved should have been there, so actually for people that are looking for country with unjust democracy they should learn it from this case. Meanwhile the state has been of conducive for it residents meaning there hasn't been a security threats about it. However, the presidents motive of taking this action was for his political interest for second tenure comes 2027 since the incumbent governor was in the democratic opposition party while the past Rivers State governor is on the side of the president. So the president using the two persons political issues to set the State on irrelevant emergency using the military to silent the democratic governance. So with all the selfish interests in the democratic governance in African politics, I'd be difficult to achieve a real form of democracy here. Title: Re: Can democracy really work here in Africa Post by: caroasi on March 21, 2025, 01:45:12 PM Democracy is a form of government characterized by by majority role in which the power to choose their leaders is solely put in the hands of the masses . Democracy is characterized by some unique qualities like free and fair election with with duration of been in power and respect for rule of law Democracy only works mildly better than other forms of government. What actually improves things is the underlying principles of fairness. If a country simply adopts Democracy without first understanding and adopting the underlying philosophies, very little can be expected to change. The first thing people will often try to do with a democracy is vote to give them self other people's money. Well, that is actually immoral because taking other people's property without their permission is theft, which leads to widespread and dramatic problems like extreme levels of immigration that disrupt cultural and economic systems.But unfortunately this is not the case in some African countries as the opposite is the case as in every election year that comes you hear of election violence, rigging of election to favour those in power, oppression and arrest of opposition figure infact the one that makes in thinking is influx of foreign and European observer to African elections This lead me to ask questions is democracy made for Africa or can we go back to the way we where governing our self before the advent of colonisation Guys let discuss why is African democracy so fragile and unstable that military is always taking over democratically elected government Some people agree with the system who devote them self to the religion of the hive mind which is typically called socialism. In the hive mind religion, you are merely part of a larger hive mind. The hive mind is your legal guardian with higher rights and authority than you and decides what is best for you. That resolves many of the problems with socialism as the people who agree can happily ignore the fact that their money is being taken without permission, living as extensions of the hive mind instead of being their own person. That still becomes a problem when the hive mind does things like take their children away from decent if not perfect parents and put them with child sexual molesters, which does happen in the west. Since this system is hostile to people who are not in agreement, it is a also a cult. The core part of a cult as opposed to a religion is the hostility to people outside of the faith-based belief system. African's any anyone else would greatly benefit to switching to a COOPERATIVE Republic form of Democracy. This is a type of government in which anyone you chose to represent you is your representative. It is a dramatically more natural, moral, and therefore effective system that forms like schools of fish form in the ocean. I've been starting to advocate this system, but its frustrating as despite being so clearly better than other forms of Republic I don't remember the last time if ever someone said, "Oh, that's a good idea. Let's do this.". People actually have surprisingly little reaction to the concept as if they don't care about an entirely new concept that would finally bring civility to society. The core problem is something I'm aware of. Though beneficial to everyone it is most beneficial to libertarians, but they refuse to acknowledge the strength in numbers offered by other systems as they want to act as a herd of cats at the moment. Title: Re: Can democracy really work here in Africa Post by: Bushdark on March 21, 2025, 04:28:04 PM Democracy should be given a chance in order for it to work but in Africa mostly it's millitary rule and numerous coups to get on power and at the same time I think we will see coups even for democratically elected candidates and we have seen this in Egypt (North Africa and middle East nation though). I am an African, and I have noticed that most of these military coups that have taken place in different countries of Africa is as a result of two phenomenon. That of corruption and political tension.Many times the military has intervened is due to the height of corruption and looting of the commonwealth by the so-called democratic elected officials who obviously got into power through elections rigging and vote buying. While that of political tension is caused by the said corrupt practices which has led to opposition attacks from the different political parties and their followers. The military has always come in to bring back sanity and discipline within the system. And I can tell you about his for free, that democracy has done little or nothing to countries like Nigeria due to the political leaders it has produced over the years. The best time's in the memories of the country people had always been those of military times. I don't think democracy favours Africa as it does with the Western world. Greed has been one of the reasons why the African politicians are working hard to fill their pockets rather then trying to help their various regions to become a better place for tourism and for the people. This would not get better if the leaders are still after symphoning the massive resources that are in Africa without development. I know that their are some countries in Africa that has lot to natural resources but because of the greed to enrich individual pockets without having a better plan for the people, the continent is shifting to massive poverty and many of these leaders are not doing anything to better the African economy. Title: Re: Can democracy really work here in Africa Post by: Y3shot on March 21, 2025, 05:25:51 PM Democracy should be given a chance in order for it to work but in Africa mostly it's millitary rule and numerous coups to get on power and at the same time I think we will see coups even for democratically elected candidates and we have seen this in Egypt (North Africa and middle East nation though). I am an African, and I have noticed that most of these military coups that have taken place in different countries of Africa is as a result of two phenomenon. That of corruption and political tension.Many times the military has intervened is due to the height of corruption and looting of the commonwealth by the so-called democratic elected officials who obviously got into power through elections rigging and vote buying. While that of political tension is caused by the said corrupt practices which has led to opposition attacks from the different political parties and their followers. The military has always come in to bring back sanity and discipline within the system. And I can tell you about his for free, that democracy has done little or nothing to countries like Nigeria due to the political leaders it has produced over the years. The best time's in the memories of the country people had always been those of military times. I don't think democracy favours Africa as it does with the Western world. Greed has been one of the reasons why the African politicians are working hard to fill their pockets rather then trying to help their various regions to become a better place for tourism and for the people. This would not get better if the leaders are still after symphoning the massive resources that are in Africa without development. I know that their are some countries in Africa that has lot to natural resources but because of the greed to enrich individual pockets without having a better plan for the people, the continent is shifting to massive poverty and many of these leaders are not doing anything to better the African economy. Title: Re: Can democracy really work here in Africa Post by: Lida93 on March 21, 2025, 09:52:58 PM Democracy should be given a chance in order for it to work but in Africa mostly it's millitary rule and numerous coups to get on power and at the same time I think we will see coups even for democratically elected candidates and we have seen this in Egypt (North Africa and middle East nation though). I think it's because of power hungry war lord and maniac militants, it's really hard to go back to democracy. Yea, you are right, it's very very hard to go back to democracy again, as it has been already abused because most of our leaders seen military rule as the most effective in a way to rule us, and they are no longer interested to know the well being of their people, they do things for their own pleasure and we don't have any other choice than to just adhere to their order meanwhile democracy is not done that way. Title: Re: Can democracy really work here in Africa Post by: letteredhub on March 21, 2025, 11:57:11 PM Democracy should be given a chance in order for it to work but in Africa mostly it's millitary rule and numerous coups to get on power and at the same time I think we will see coups even for democratically elected candidates and we have seen this in Egypt (North Africa and middle East nation though). I am an African, and I have noticed that most of these military coups that have taken place in different countries of Africa is as a result of two phenomenon. That of corruption and political tension.Many times the military has intervened is due to the height of corruption and looting of the commonwealth by the so-called democratic elected officials who obviously got into power through elections rigging and vote buying. While that of political tension is caused by the said corrupt practices which has led to opposition attacks from the different political parties and their followers. The military has always come in to bring back sanity and discipline within the system. And I can tell you about his for free, that democracy has done little or nothing to countries like Nigeria due to the political leaders it has produced over the years. The best time's in the memories of the country people had always been those of military times. I don't think democracy favours Africa as it does with the Western world. Greed has been one of the reasons why the African politicians are working hard to fill their pockets rather then trying to help their various regions to become a better place for tourism and for the people. Title: Re: Can democracy really work here in Africa Post by: AmaGold70 on March 24, 2025, 08:37:51 PM I won't actually say that democracy is a myth in Africa or let me focus in my country, democracy is a myth in my country because the quest for power and more riches has blinded our leaders, I see some users saying that democracy can happen if the citizens stop selling their vote but how can they stop selling when their is hunger in the land. A hungry man thinks only about how to survive now and forget about the future hence the reason why they sell their votes for peanuts just the survive that moment's hungry, Democracy won't be possible with these corrupt leaders that are only bothered about their welfare alone.
Title: Re: Can democracy really work here in Africa Post by: madawg on March 25, 2025, 12:06:38 PM Eh look at how democracy worked in South Africa. White kids have to get more points in college to get the same degree as black ones and white farmers have to sleep with one eye open while they feed them all under the threat of having the very land used to feed them all being stolen from them all the while the opposition sing openly with their zoo animal mobs to kill the boer instead of fixing the power grid and infrastructure. Democracy only works when the crazys arent elected ;D
Title: Re: Can democracy really work here in Africa Post by: Fiatless on March 25, 2025, 09:41:12 PM I won't actually say that democracy is a myth in Africa or let me focus in my country, democracy is a myth in my country because the quest for power and more riches has blinded our leaders, I see some users saying that democracy can happen if the citizens stop selling their vote but how can they stop selling when their is hunger in the land. A hungry man thinks only about how to survive now and forget about the future hence the reason why they sell their votes for peanuts just the survive that moment's hungry, Democracy won't be possible with these corrupt leaders that are only bothered about their welfare alone. How long will the money they sold their vote for last? Sometimes, the money wouldn't even provide meals for a day. Hunger is not an excuse for vote selling. Selling your vote to the wrong politicians will cause more hunger. Another problem that affects African democracy is the lack of an independent electoral process. Since the electoral body officials are usually appointed by those in power, they can easily be influenced. Some of them will always write and announce fake results just to ensure that the ruling class win the election. Title: Re: Can democracy really work here in Africa Post by: Derekfunds on March 27, 2025, 11:02:01 AM Democracy is a form of government characterized by by majority role in which the power to choose their leaders is solely put in the hands of the masses . Democracy is characterized by some unique qualities like free and fair election with with duration of been in power and respect for rule of law But unfortunately this is not the case in some African countries as the opposite is the case as in every election year that comes you hear of election violence, rigging of election to favour those in power, oppression and arrest of opposition figure infact the one that makes in thinking is influx of foreign and European observer to African elections This lead me to ask questions is democracy made for Africa or can we go back to the way we where governing our self before the advent of colonisation Guys let discuss why is African democracy so fragile and unstable that military is always taking over democratically elected government How do you think democracy will work when personal interest, tribalism, favoritism etc is too much, if the people that are on seat are still there democracy can never be practice in Africa. Remember an evil tree will always bear forth evil fruit so when the people that is leading are evil definitely before they will leave the seat they want people like them to be there and if anyone tries to antagonize they will make sure to deal with person and eliminate the person if possible and necessary. The continent is just like a lawless continent. |