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Casinos existed without the need for KYC's until the government made it a requirement, and they started demanding it. IMO If the government no longer requires casinos to do KYC verification for new gamblers, casinos will go ahead and still do KYC verifications because they have seen the benefits of knowing their customers better than when they just allowed people to come onto their platform and gamble without their knowledge of who they were. What do you think? Do you think some casino's will revert back to non-KYC and allow money launderers, plus other fraudulent people have their easy way with them as a way to attract customers, or since they recognize the personal benefits of KYC to their casino, will continue demanding it even if it affects their customers?

the objective of kyc is not for government is to be assure of the particular account so that they will not be commitment of any site fraud with the such a particular account government cannot demand for kyc verification of any account it is that particular platform that will demand for it because they know actually what is their target and there are selective to know people who want to patronize them I think about it should be the essence of having a kyc

Do you think a time will ever come when Government will allow casinos to operate without them requesting kyc verification from their customers?

Remember that it’s still this same government that have been fighting decentralized and have seized several mixers - if casinos are allowed to operate freely and money laundering is detected do you think they’ll last? Do you think the government will turn a blind eye on it?

That a casino asks you to do a KYC verification doesn't mean they are going to treat you better or give you any priority than those other registered customers that have not passed KYC. The KYC is just to verify their customers identities so that if there is any ugly situation, they can easily phish out the user who committed such an ugly incident.

Casino are aware that so many people hate KYC and therefore if government doesn't deemed it necessary for them to do KYC, they might remove the KYCs option but do you think government will ask casinos to stop KYC? The answer is no!

The government is very concerned about money laundering cases, and if, by mistake, someone wants to clean up tainted money through the casino, the government will get the person's details through their KYC information from that casino.

I'd say they'd still continue it. It's basically a free source of customer data which they can use to tabulate and formulate marketing plans. As for customers complaining about KYC, well, they've already done so for years, I highly doubt they're still going to complain midway. Maybe if a big casino started removing it then yea, others would definitely follow suit, otherwise I don't think they'd remove it. Plus, even if we do say the government didn't make it a necessity, the casino would be plagued by criminal activities and what's the only method of defense that they would have? KYC.

But if it ever happens, casinos would probably be made to be closed down by the government again or make KYC return since the place would be rampant with money laundering schemes and other similar stuff they're able to do there. Highly doubt the government would ever rescind KYC as well.

We do not really need to make any guesses to know what it will happen as we saw what it actually came to happen, casinos did not implemented widespread KYC policies until the governments mandated them to do so, what does this tell us?

That casinos are perfectly fine with letting gamblers bet as much money as they want without forcing them to identify themselves, as casinos do not really care about that information, what they care about is the profits they can make, and a higher level of privacy gave them an edge over fiat casinos they could use to their advantage at the time.

Could be the case, could not be. Depends on what really matters for the casino itself. The quality of the customers they serve, or the amount of customers who can just walk in on their sites without any issues or qualms about verifying their identities and shit?

I feel like some casinos will definitely choose quality over quantity, and would retain the use of KYC, besides, it's much more tiresome to delete a feature than to keep it as it is when no one's enforcing its removal anyway. On the other hand, there will be casinos that would immediately take the verification system off as they themselves see this as nothing but a shackle that keeps them from expanding to gamblers who are exclusively gambling on casinos with no KYC requirement, no matter how small or niche that community is. 

Not all casinos do require KYC from their customers though, the same way we have decentralised as well as centralised exchanges, that's how it also is for casinos, there are those operate without even requesting customers personal data, ones that respect their customers anonymity and privacy.
So it all depends on one's choice of casino, but for those casinos that requires KYC verification from their customers, I don't think they'll have any reason to stop because the information they acquire from the customers actually goes straight to the government and not for their personal use.

If a casino is having a license, then they are bound to ask for KYC from their customers. If the government doesn’t make this as mandatory, still they will ask for KYC. The reason for asking KYC is anti money laundering cases only. The casinos will make themselves clear if any money laundering cases is registered with the help of KYC. Hence, I highly doubt that anyone will stop asking for KYC. This has really became a mandatory process for all the big and reputed casinos.

I don't think casinos will stop demanding KYC because casinos have well realized the benefits of KYC. If users' identity verification is stopped, gambling by minors will increase. There can also be many other reasons for not turning off KYC.

First, thinking the government no longer requires to do KYC won't happen, you can't separates government and KYC.

Second, why the hell casinos need to know who were gamble in their sites? their main focus is to earn as much as possible, not watching someone gamble.

Casinos really love gambling addicts because they can maximize their profit, self exclusion or slogan "only gamble you can afford to lose" are just gimmicks.

Two points you mentioned aren't make sense at all.

If the government doesn't require it and they won't have problems in money laundering cases then I bet they will go back to being a non-KYC-required gambling industry.
They are doing it because they don't want to be questioned by the authority but if that is not the case then they'd rather not. Simply because a non-KYC business can pull more customers because they can gamble while keeping their privacy which I think has been the debate for a long time now.
Just in this forum, we have seen a lot of times with the number of threads created about KYC's and I believe the gambling sites know that gamblers don't like them.

Still, I doubt that will happen. The fangs of the government are sunk deep in the online gambling industry and there's no way to take that out.

KYC is for security of ones data, funds and to ensure that there is  order and free flow of business transactions. It will not stop because even the government checks these casinos for malpractice and money laundering .
One must have read to agree to casino rules before joining, so as not to enter complications in the process before and after gambling and is intent on claiming rewards and cash prices.

The only way casino will revert back to non-KYC is when they removed all their bonuses which is the reason why they want KYC for protection agains cheater. You’re right that they will not revert back to non-KYC even if the government not required it anymore since it’s beneficial for the casino to required KYC to avoid abused for their promotion which is frequently happening.

Only casino that offers decentralized games without relying to bonuses can achieve this no KYC feature but the rest of the casino that relies on bonuses to attract players will alway use KYC for protection against abuse.

Gamblers wish that would happen, we don't want that in the first place. But, yes the question is if the government withdraws its stance on requiring the casino to ask KYC from their users knowing that they also have valid reason for implementing such rules. Which is our chance is very slim to nothing. But I have no complaints about it as long as they are reputed and if we don't know, this KYC implementation from the casino helps to secure our funds from unauthorized withdrawals.
It has positive and negative but we have no choice because these casinos are just complying with what the authorities have asked.

If the casino has a license, that means they are regulated, and part of regulation is they are mandated to required a KYC on their customers, so the answer is no. here's the difference, unlicense casino cannot demand a KYC, while the licensed one they are required to. So if a gambler doesn't want a KYC, they have to take a higher risk playing on an unlicense casino, they have to understand that they can't sue a casino in case they'll get scam, but they have the freedom, so it's just a matter of weighing the risk versus the benefits, we call the shot.

Dream on, OP. It's like asking if states can stop collecting taxes. The direction we're going is the opposite: states are increasingly taxing more and more, just as they are increasingly attacking privacy. We have no reason to think they are going to reverse their decision and start doing the opposite.

Exactly. I don't thin the government will stop mandating them to ask KYC documents from anyone in casino. They will even intensify that they will allow users who won from free spins to withdraw the amount so long as they submit KYC documents.

Maybe the government will incentivize those casinos who can submit new data from their platform to the government. They know the data are very important for them to see those people.

It is a sad reality, but without KYC, an online casino cannot operate anymore. KYC is part of the regulations for a casino because we know how online casinos are being used for bad deeds or malicious intents. That's why, as part of the security of the casino and its customers, they need to know their customers. That's why, as part of the security of the casino and its customers, they need to know their customers so that it will be more tight and strict when it comes to approving those customers. So either you will comply or you will not use the casino, and if you want a casino without KYC, then good luck because there are only a few of them. And for your security, I suggest that it's better to comply than to risk your funds in a casino without security for their customers, so we need to accept the use of KYC.

Unfortunately, KYC is here to stay. You can take your chances with non kyc non licensed casinos, but you are risking everything you deposit by doing so. There is no regulatory body to force them to pay customers.

While I am not a fan of Kyc, there is really no other route. I'd just like to see it be a little less invasive.

What are you saying? Who gave the online casino the go-ahead to operate? Isn't it the government? Who is regulating this online casino? Isn't it the government? Why do you think that these online casinos are asking for KYC? It is what the government ordered them to do.

They are doing this because there might come a time when an investigation needs to be carried out, and if all members already submit their information they will be able to do their investigation on each member using the casino, there will be no room for illegal funding and embezzlement of funds and other criminal activities.

Terrorism is a disease, drugs hurt society, and these are wars that the government has to fight, I don't blame them for monitoring humans, there are many bad eggs among the good ones even while the government rules, there are still many illegal activities, let them do their thing, they are just trying to protect their people.

This is unlikely to happen.

There are bad people among us who use mixers, casino wallets and exchanges to attempt to stop the tracing of their stolen funds and move to accessible places. Unfortunately the casino in turn has to answer to the authorities for this and thus they have to take these steps of forcing KYC on flagged accounts.

We might find it as something of a bore, but for them it is a protection for their business.

Hence in all probability these constraints will more likely increase, not decrease in future.

The governments no longer requiring KYC? Is this a joke? I'm sure that the governments will start requiring KYC from the users of cold wallets at some point. Of course that the casinos will go back to non-KYC, if there was a real possibility for this to happen. All gamblers hate KYC.
It's not just the gamblers. All people hate submitting their sensitive data to websites and services, that can be hacked. Maybe some casinos would keep the KYC procedures as an excuse to block the funds of certain gamblers. We've been there and we know about those shady practices. KYC verification is here to stay and soon it might become mandatory to verify your identity in order to use the internet. ;D

Yes, online casinos can stop asking for KYC someday, only if they are tired of running the business, all online casinos won't be able to run, this is the only solution to stop KYC requirements.

No KYC requirement? No more online gambling, it is this simple.

What do you think? Even the great freebitco is now asking for KYC, it was shocking to many people excluding me, I just can't stop laughing about it, in the past people used to show off freebitco as the longest running betting platform with faucet that never put the verification as a necessity on their users.

This is not the case today, and so shall it be for those new online casinos that are using no KYC to attract gamblers who think that no KYC should be a norm, you ain't see nothing yet.

On average, KYC is implemented because it has become one of the requirements that must be fulfilled because gambling sites use license to operate, obviously this will continue forever.
Moreover, KYC verification also provides many benefits for gambling industry business and I sure that even if the license or government removes the policy for KYC, gambling sites will still use it.
Just imagine if there was an act of laundering large amounts of money and the case was uncovered until the perpetrators were caught and admitted to laundering the money and even named the site they were using, then that site would definitely be involved in the case.
This can cause the gambling site to stop operating or even close and of course if this happens it will result in major losses for the owner or investors in the site.
It is important to remember that every gambling site will always maintain the security and continuity of business operations that have been built, especially as this is business that really generates large amounts of profit.

Don't buy the government's story! KYC wasn't some altruistic move. Casinos loved anonymity just as much as gamblers did. It kept the high rollers happy and the money flowing freely.  But someone higher up got spooked.  They saw all that untraceable cash and thought, "hey, that's OUR tax revenue disappearing!"  Suddenly, KYC became the golden rule. Coincidence? You decide.

They scrambled to put KYC in place, not because they care about you, or to fight the financing of terrorism, or some other crap like that, but because they want their share.

For sure all online casino want to implement a No KYC procedure since for doing that they can attract a lot of gamblers that participate on their casino. But unfortunately some people demand it since if they didn't try to comply with legal matters and get a license then there will be some accusation will be build that they are running a illegal casino or they might turn as scam in future that's why some of legitimate casino comply to what people like and they get a license to prove that their business is legit. Also sometimes government pressure make them decide to ask this since if they didn't require this then provably that they would get an issue to government and to avoid getting pressured by government then again they force to get this so that they can run a smooth operation without getting bothered by some abusive officials. Its really nice to have No KYC casino but to many factors are stopping this to happen.

You have already stated in your post why casinos wouldn't want to revert to the non KYC policy because they have seen thst it the KYC has done a whole lot of good than harm to them and it ahs aswell help them curb the chances of using their platforms for illicit activities that could implicate them in the nearest future of which it will cost them much more than they would benefit from such customers, most likely the government will not stop such policy because they are aware how many launders and others took advantage of the times the policy wasn't in place to perpetrate so many activities which cost both the government and the casinos some funds and reputation.

Staying anonymous while gambling is actually fun but for the reason of crime I think it's actually very good that these casinos continue with the KYC policy which will help them aswell save their reputation and Also save their potential customers who could fa victim of these fraudulent customers who are going to stay anonymous and use the platform to get from others.

No! I do not think so and I can't even imagine casinos not requesting KYC because it's more like a standard now.

The government introduced them to it or should I say force them into it and now they are fascinated by KYC, as criminals can easily be phished out through their identities in thr casinos. Money laundering is a most effective reason for it so since they have to keep protecting their interest in order keep operating.

Like many other forum members I think there is no going back as well, casinos that have introduced mandatory KYC will continue down that path. The good thing is that there are still casinos without this requirement so we can still play in many casinos that don't have mandatory KYC. So the question is which is the next big crypto casino to introduce mandatory KYC... the bigger the casino is with more players from all over the world, the more obligations they have to different countries.

I doubt we will ever see a casino that is totally KYC-free again. Maybe that's the case with some casinos that only accept Monero or another coin, but as far as Bitcoin is concerned, almost every casino is regulated by a license and that means they have to abide by certain rules or they can suffer the consequences.

Thats unlikely to happen or I can say its impossible, in fact these KYC rules will become even stricter than before.
Even the centralized casinos can still ask their players to do KYC when necessary, only illegal casinos are dare to declare that there will be no KYC on their platforms.

Casinos actually dont want to implement these KYC policies, especially for new casinos.
Many gamblers dont want to play at new casinos because they have to do KYC again and again.

kyc has become a basic rule for a casino to be able to operate with government regulations. this is something that casinos need to fulfill to verify users and account for this to the government in order to avoid crimes such as fraud, money laundering, etc. when a casino operates by not imposing kyc on their users, then the casino is most likely not regulated by the government and it is an illegal platform according to the government. it is very likely that all user activities on these platforms will be vulnerable, since they are not regulated and at any time they can close their services. this is what makes many gamblers prefer to play on regulated casino platforms, even though the platform imposes kyc on them, but that is not a big enough problem for the majority of gamblers.

First, let me say that you should perish the thought that the government will stop the KYC, they can't, and the reason is simple, crimes will never stop in the world, and since the government can't trust everybody, they would want us all to be accountable, even the companies they are dealing with in their jurisdictions. The KYC is a necessity these days, though it is not 100% efficient, but I must say that it has helped a lot. But should in case the government stop the KYC on its end, I tell you that most casinos would do the same. But those are the genuine casinos that would not want to burden their customers. But for those with ulterior motives, you should expect them to ask you for the KYC or even worse.

Many of them are doing that to find excuses to steal/confiscate the money of their customers. They are not asking it to truly protect the interest of the government or the world but their selfish pockets. Even as you see many of them today quoting the IPs, the use of the VPN and KYC as excuses, most of them are not sincere about it but extracting that from the law and their Ts&Cs to swindle or try to swindle the voiceless customers.

Until a new, less invasive way of verifying the legal age of the users, for example, is invented, I don't think much more can be done. Nobody likes to give away all their personal data, and Identity Cards give much more data than needed, not to talk about biometric data of selfies or whatever. If these data are leaked or misused by the casino, or a hacker stoles them, users are exposed to serious risks.

It would be great if somebody invented a way so by signing messages or whatever casinos, exchanges etc. could verify that you meet all the criteria without having to share with them all our personal data.

What happens is that when centralized gambling platform requires for kyc this is another means to keep track of every single record of financial dealing it could be that money was stolen from a wallet to their gambling site where it would put the gambling platform at higher risk of closure if the authority knows that the money was moved to that platform and there isn't any track records whom is in posseson that money then they have the gambling site to be held responsible. That is why it's always included in their terms of AML and gambler must abide to it before they proceed with their registrations, so for casinos to stop demanding for kyc then would have to migrate and integrate to web3 gambling platform.

Because it doesn't make sense for them to ask for KYC when they are not legal. If we comply on their demand, we are just putting ourselves in danger as that might leak out and we will face a problem like identity theft. Illegal casinos should be viewed as decentralized casino, no need to ask for information except email to log in, verify, or recover our account.

They can't say "no KYC" or will not implement it since they have a license and they are pretty much aware that if they will violate the guidelines of their license, they will loss it through revocation of license.

As the time will go there will be more regulation for crypto and casinos will follow it too. The KYC is not just important for Government, it's important for the Casino itself too to detect cheaters, at-least they can ban an abuser.

You are right it is the government that forced the casinos to start making KYC mandatory and it is not limited to casinos, even exchanges are also among the primary targets of government in terms of making KYC compulsory. I think government do this to ensure they monitor the flow of funds in a bid to ensuring that these businesses are not used for illegal money movement. There is no way that regulated casinos will stop demanding KYC because it is part of the process required for their licensing. There are actually offshore casinos, maybe those will ease the KYC process but then there is the risk on the customers.

Kyc verification underscores government control and interest into the activities of casinos, therefore taking away KYC is like blindfolding the government into these activities especially against money laundering, underage gambling and so on.

As  much as I dislike kyc in my own little way, I can say that kyc in casinos have helped prevent many illegalities and impersonations within the industry among gamblers, the inimical aspect of kyc is that it intrude and expose our privacy which ought to be a right of the individual.

I do not think that casinos will ask kyc if there is no intervention by the government. Because they want to make business without any interruption and not to govr headache to their customers.

What they like is repeat customers because that sets their foundation and it always is the best for business when they have been trusted and liked by the customers because of ease.

However, as they want to stay in business and the government pushes for kyc because of the regulations, they have to obey.

Most people started to see the internet as a different world from the real world, in which the rules and laws of the real world did not apply on the internet. but that thought is wrong, if you look in your country you will see that any physical casino in your country has a license issued by the government of your country, you will see that all physical casinos in your country pay taxes, employees have contracts, the government carries out inspections in casino machines and casino finances to prevent game manipulation and money laundering. The government requires that the casino does not allow minors to enter, at the door of the physical casino there are security guards who ask for documents and when someone inside the casino wins money they must hand over a document to be paid

So if in the real world governments demand that land-based casinos comply with money laundering laws, have licenses, pay taxes, and not allow minors, why would it be wrong for governments to ask the same thing of online casinos? Why shouldn't online casinos respect the laws like physical casinos? It just doesn't make any sense. I also hate kyc, but I do it because I respect the laws and the TOS and there is no way to go back to the time when governments didn't ask for licenses and kyc, because as I said before, land-based casinos have been asking for the same thing since many years. so it was expected that online casinos would also be required to comply with the laws

Casinos could eliminate the need to perform KYC if the government no longer requires verification for casino members. But it all depends on each casino whether they will continue to do KYC or eliminate it. If it was a crypto casino, the casino would write it off and it would go back to the way it was.

But we know that's hard to do because the government won't do it. The government also benefits from KYC for gamblers. They know that the gambling industry can provide a lot of income for their country.

If there were casinos that could eliminate KYC for their members, that would be good news for us crypto gamblers. We don't need to do KYC anymore like before. We'll see what the government will do, but it looks like the government will continue as it is now asking for KYC.

What about the casino got hacked and then after few months or years, a criminal use your identity and then the police caught you're a criminal?

Correct, if they know the most easiest way to run a casino and make everyone happy, they will do it. Why they need to follow unnecessary regulations which would make them to spend more money and effort.

Actually, there are few casinos that promote "No KYC" in this forum, but they actually have KYC rules in their terms. ::)

Now as time is running out we are losing this all because mostly decentralized casino's want to follow Government rules and regulations without them, they can't do their business so we have to follow them without this now things are getting worst even this is also creating more problems but still now we are doing good which is helpful for them and all stakeholders.
But one thing is good still if someone want to live without this KYC then he can do on few casinos but their games and limits are problems which are not satisfying gamblers so they have to go for this all which is now must use case for them.

That's why if you could recall in the ending part of my first comment where you quoted I clearly stated in condemnation of the kyc as a means of exposure of our privacy in terms of our data/identity that a third party can gain access to and implicate us using our identity. And the example you had just used with casino hack paints a good picture of what I was implying among many things about the inimical side of kyc to users using centralized platforms in general

Casinos may not go back to old policies but there will be hundreds of other new casinos that will pop up with No KYC requirements so now what you will pick if it's between KYC required platform or a No KYC platform?

That sums up the purpose of this discussion so platforms will be forced back to what customers prefer if they want to be making profits.

At last, this is highly unlikely to happen that government will no longer require KYC.

I am one of the few persons who see nothing wrong in a casino demanding for KYC verification whether as required by the government of the country where they do business or on the casino's own accord. Quite a lot of time, we complain of minors getting themselves involved in gambling activities and some malpractices carried out by some fraudulent people who disguise themselves as gamblers.  One way for checking for all this is through KYC. It is good that we have casinos that don't demand for KYC as well as casinos that demand for KYC verifications. Gamblers should just patronize casinos they are comfortable with instead of worrying about what KYC or no KYC will do to their privacy and personal security.

God knows that this new casino that offers no KYC and at the same time have bonus will surely regret their decision since we already witnessed a lot of new casino that suffer a massive loss after being abused by cheaters who exploit their bonus.

No serious business will dare to remove KYC unless they doesn't offer bonus because cheaters will surely drain hard their bankroll using their bonuses until they win huge on slot games by multiple attempts.  :D

Even before KYCs, online casinos have systems in place to check for fraudulent activities and monitor their players to see if they are abiding by the existing ToS or not. They have all of these to ensure that they are not being cheated by someone and that all of the money flows directly to their pockets. There are some benefits to KYCs even if it's not mandated by the government and there might be some casinos who will continuously implement this on their platforms, but the majority would probably just don't implement it as it reduces the systems they would need to allocate resources to.

I agree that KYC is not a government requirement, so much so that no government has ever imposed conduct procedures on exchanges or casinos regarding what to do in relation to customers of a given platform.
So, see KYC as an auxiliary tool for casinos to get to know their customers better, know that they really are who they claim to be and thus have less risk of internal fraud and also to have reasons that justify a "minimum of control" and present this information to governments if they are accused of facilitating money laundering.

You see, not even in physical casinos, which have been known for laundering money for years, there is such a history of KYC requirements. Is it because governments were "softer"? Certainly not.
KYC is above all laws, security for the website itself, as it does not know who is accessing its website.

So, even if the government is no longer required to have as much control over fraud, I believe that KYC will continue to be required.

When it comes to gambling I prefer KYC but, definitely not everyone will want to provide their personal information just for casino site, from my perspective it’s good cause it’s another form of verification and security. Aside gambling, you’ll discover almost all site will want to know every single detail and it’s required you fill everything before you can access the website for example investment assurance scheme, loan site, etc. if any user is absolutely good such user will not fear giving out their KYC but we should be careful cause sometimes most websites are not worth giving out our private information. It’s likely those government know all the KYC of every gamblers but, not all site will share customers KYC with the government in terms of gambling from my observation unless the government is interested , I’m aware that banks work hand to hand with the state government so we can fully say the government gave order and demanded for every bank users KYC, it’s difficult to agree concerning gambling if government made the law about KYC or not.

As far as I know, the KYC applied by online casinos to users has nothing to do with the government, the government and casinos have different paths, the government only provides licenses, It's not that KYC is the casino's own policy. It has nothing to do with whether KYC is regulated by the government, whether it is mandatory or not.
 
Many online casinos do not require kyc users, i wonder, how someone launders money in an online casino....!

My understanding is that online casinos will never stop KYC, this feature is useful for the casino itself to prevent unwanted things and KYC functions for the casino itself, I don't think KYC will ever disappear from casinos, regardless of what the government responds to.

KYC is the casinos' way to implement their terms and trace cheaters, it's not only the government requirements, but casinos also do not want to be a playground of launderers and cheaters and KYC prevents this.

KYC is here to stay casinos are doing good and make the operation safe for players and for the platforms.
I don't think things will change even if the government imposes or does not impose it.

This can only happen in a dystopian society where society has fallen apart. Where there is the absence of law and order, of justice. Where criminals will replace good people and crime reigns free.

But even criminals live by a set of rules, a code that guides their actions and binds them. Nevertheless, since we are living in the age and time where there is information technology there would always be in need for kyc requirements regardless of whether the government who gives a damn about it or not. Data collation which important.

If they wat to, then yes. However same goes with casinos and gambling providers who requires such procedure to their players. Not to give certainty but so far I never had any problem with complying to KYC process however, I still cannot blame those who are against it; if you're one then there are still platforms wherein this is not a requirement. We cannot really force a platform to change their policy. As customers, what we can do is to only comply if it is being practiced on them.
I agree, we have our own preferences of things and on the same extent we have a choice and we have options in the first place. If you're uncomfortable of doing this procedure rhen that is valid than to just be forced to do so and regret it afterwards. What's best as well is to find the right platforms that would free you from worries.

I don't think so. If for some reason regulators stopped enforcing KYC from casinos in order to allow them operating their businesses, I don't think casinos would keep the feature by their own wish, because they know how inconvenient it is for their customers, therefore prejudicing the business, as gamblers tend to avoid intrusive and bureaucratic services which keep demanding personal informations and formal procedures for them in order to play or cashout funds.

Most of them would revert the feature, I suppose. And it would work like it used to be in the early days of crypto industry, when sign up process was simple, clean and instant. However, it's just an hypothetical scenario you are drawing, which in fact I'm pretty sure has 0% of happening for real, because in no way governments are going to remove their regulations.

those under government authority will continue to run their casino business with KYC verification. then we can call it a legal casino. and from another point of view, when a casino does not meet the government's requirements, we can call it an illegal casino.
the government will not let everyone go free. The casino business is not only profitable for business people. but also for the government which has managed it well.
regardless of whether the casino is committing fraud or not. but if you are a non-problem gambler, I don't think there will be any problems with the KYC required by the casino.

Maybe those who are a strong believer of anonymous gambling, but majority probably wouldn't. I mean KYC do act as an extra protection for their gambling site and I don't think they would want to lose that. Also, I feel like they would rather lose some costumer that lose the security KYC provide.

       -     I believe that the KYC is only applicable to regulated casinos, as we know, because this is what the government wants; they want to see the full earnings of their constituents. That's why traditional casinos cannot have DTI, business permits, Sec, and others.

But if there is no KYC, of course that is applicable to Dex casinos. The bad thing is that Dex platform casinos ask for KYC from their gamblers, and when this happens, that is a red flag to me.

It's not only the gambling casinos that asked for KYC online and offline platforms that have a seller-customer relationship it is the protection of both sellers and customers to see to it that the platforms are true to what the platform demands of their customers.

In online casinos, it's being used to trace cheaters and launderers, they need to protect their platform and KYC is a good method to trace scammers and cheaters, casinos are successful in tracing bad players using KYC so I don't think casinos will do away KYC even if it's unpopular to players.

Going back to no-KYC casinos? Sounds great, I get it. Less hassle. But its a fantasy. Casinos, they're smart businesses. They know KYC gives them an edge- keeps things clean, customers happy. They're not giving that up easy. Now, regulations are what they are, hard to work around today. But hold on, I see something big down the road. Decentralized casinos, built on blockchain, just for gambling? Changes the whole game. Thats the kind of disruption Im talking about! You get your privacy, casinos get security. Nobody loses. Its the future, might take some time, but believe me, best minds are on it. Thats where the smart money's going

No. It is would be very unreal for us to even imagine the governments and the regulations in those important jurisdictions are going to reverse their policies on KYC and AML measures. It does not make sense from their perspective.
It is true that in previous decades it was possible to gamble on casinos without providing much persona information to the casino, the staff of it and the government (indirectly), but one also needs to understand the differences between that historical context and the current context we are going through.
In previous decades, it was possible to gamble without KYC because one needed to use either cash or a credit card to fund one'a gambling session. With cash, one was required to show up to the place one wanted to gamble, which could make easier for the police to investigate, interview and even arrest people whose intention was to launder money. The credit card essentially meant the bank and the government had our information, it was some kind of previously done KYC.

In the introduction of cryptocurrency and the increase of popularity of casino websites, it became difficult for authorities to only rely on credit cards and people showing up at brick and mortar casinos.
It is a matter of evaluating the pros and cons on KYC and AML before summiting our information, I personally believe it is worth it enough for most of people as long as we keep criminals away from their liquidity.

KYC isn't going away in casinos. Benefits are too good. They've seen chaos lead to fraud, money laundering, and more. I understand their desire to prevent that. KYC is likely to remain standard at most casinos regardless of laws. To safeguard their business and reputation. Suppose certain casinos go rogue to attract a certain audience. That's possible, but rare.

Unbelievable is the tech available. Decentralized blockchain casinos are the future. Consider a future where you can wager privately and the casino keeps everything safe. I believe in the possibilities despite the formidable challenge. It'll take some creative thinking, but it may revolutionize the game.

Unless they are not required to comply with the governments regulation I think that is the only reason that keep them from demanding KYC's to their respective users. Money laundering is I think the most common reason why we need to undergo KYC they just wanted to see no irregularities from their users.

They can do it, but in most cases it will mean losing a license. Think about it, how many of them will do it? Probably one in a thousand, or less. What about unlicensed casinos? These guys could skip KYC and advertise as non-kyc casinos to be different and attract customers, but apart from privacy -oriented people they will also start attracting scammers. When 99 out of 100 casinos are KYC and one is not, all the launderers will go there - that's a fact. There's not going to be a lot of them, but let's say they're 1% of all players spread across many different casinos. Start a non-kyc casino and they'll all come to you because it's easier for them - less risk, more profit.

If casinos stop demanding KYC it will definitely make more gamblers to access their websites as most gamblers hate passing through KYC especially when there is a system glitch in their KYC application. And that will give access to kids and underaged person to the gamble on their site. Some casinos today only ask if you are 18+ and that's all, there is no way for them to verify if it's actually true or not, and that's one of the reasons why some governmental regulations place bans on some online casino and gambling sites. Assuming KYC was not demanded in exchanges, some criminal would have gotten away with some stolen funds.

I'm afraid, this will never happen  :)
It cost them millions of dollars to begin the censorships, why should they decide to stop it anyway? I can only think of the government bringing up a more sustainable means to attack privacy on casinos - should KYCs get maneuvered, not just obliterating the system per se
Not at this point.
The sole purpose of censorship was privacy invasion. I'm afraid, this is gonna get even more worse and we're gonna be toast once people begin to discover other loopholes to evade the KYCs.

It is unlikely that casinos will continue to apply KYC because it is already a requirement from the government so it will be mandatory for the future as well as exchanges that apply KYC more strictly, the flow of funds to casinos is so large that the government can monitor with KYC.

How is it possible that a non-KYC casino can later allow money laundering and more? If this is allowed the casino will become the target of the government for committing illegal acts, until then we will never expect that non KYC will still exist even though until now some casinos still exist.

Casinos have strict rules, they prohibit anything that is fraudulent.

Money laundering is what government hates with any company that deals with money, they believe is very easy for companies to wash money and get away with it that's why I think the anti money laundering kyc and the casino are just gradually becoming the normal exchange we do used with basic names and email that overnight changed to compulsory kyc is exactly what is happening with Casino right now, a time will come that a casino without kyc will be difficult to see around.

The only place I personally think casino benefit from KYC of a thing is about abuse of multi accounts, no matter are mercy a casino is, there will be some people that will abuse such privileged and this kyc is the only way to fish out the bad eggs from the good ones in places where they abuse bonuses and trying to cheat the system, other than these I see no benefit of kyc to casinos.

If the government lift the mandatory KYC rule then new casinos will use it as a marketing strategy to attract new players to their platform. Existing casino might follow similar methods, if the rate of people who go to no KYC casinos are high. Every effect depends on the marketing trend. Lots of players preferred no KYC, but since no platform supports it, due to the government, people began to adapt to the KYC rule. However, casinos were able to handle fraudulent activities long before the institution of a compulsory KYC policy by the government.

In my understanding, what casinos benefits from the data people submit to them is marketing. With the information casinos can easily know who to target when advertising. They'll be able to know the number of young people and aged players who use the casino. Although, lots of framed up documents exist in the platform. Especially from underaged gamblers. But the government may not think of doing such a thing. They also benefit from those data. It helps them track fraudulent activities like money laundering. Halting it would affect their investigative purposes.

Implementing Know Your Customer (KYC) in casinos is what the discussion is about. KYC policies are now common due to statutory demands, this shows that casinos have to ascertain the identities of their players, ensuring that illegal activities such as money laundering are not carried out through their systems. By developing more stringent KYC, flow of funds to casinos becomes more monitored and transparent: the government would have access to stronger tools on surveillance of financial activities at casinos, allowing them to prevent money laundering alongside other illicit dealings.

Despite this, there are still individuals who express concern about non-KYC compliant casinos potentially turning into dens for illicit activities. They posit that if casinos fail to ascertain the identity of their gamers, the risk of falling into money laundering and other unlawful dealings increases.

However, it is important to note that though implementing KYC can aid in lowering this risk at a casino, it is not the sole parameter to be weighed.

Casinos never want to ask for KYC in the first place, it just adds another obstacle in the way of the gamblers wallet being emptied into their bank account. The government created these rules because casinos were one of the most effective ways to "wash" (aka money launder) money and turn dirty money into clean money before this happened. There is no way that the government will ever roll back this requirement, nor should they, as it allows criminals to prosper - regardless of any protests that legitimate users might have about wanting to keep their anonymity. Any casino that does not conform to these standards might be able to navigate the KYC laws for a while but eventually they might get cracked down on.

Online crypto casinos operated in early days without kyc as these casinos were not licensed yet. When they started to acquire license, of course, it is accompanied by certain protocols to abide by, according to the regulations set by their license. The licensing of online casinos becomes a norm when this type of business needs to legalize their existence as well as scam casinos are on the rise.

So so long these casinos have their license, I believe, they will continue to ask KYC from their players especially those high rollers. Because in some casinos, even if they have kyc in place, if you don't exceed their limits of let's say - accumulated deposits/withdrawals of $2k, they won't require you to undergo the kyc process.

If the government does not require KYC for players, I do not think casinos will continue to mandatorily implement it.  Removing KYC will save them money and besides, I do not think Casino is concern about the identity of their players unless it is about account recovery if ever a player lost access to his account.


Casinos does not intend to allow money laundering on its platform, and it is not the obligation of the casino to catch money launderers or people who do fraudulent activity since we have the authority for that.  Casino's service is to give entertainment to its clients by providing games that give them a chance to win.  And since the government in this scenario have lift the requirement for the casino to conduct KYC, then the casino does not need to implement it.

Well it's very different now, before we never thought of this kind of things, I mean crypto was invented or at least Bitcoin by Satoshi as a payment scheme, you can't read anything about money launderers and others that will take advantage of his invention to be used other done what he designed it to be.

And when criminals found out that they can wash their money in gambling sites, so gambling platform uses like you have to bet x amount before you can withdraw or a betting requirements. But still, it's not enough and so enter the financial regulators.

I also think now that gamblers have accepted this fact already that most online gambling platforms will demand KYC and I don't think that they will revert back to non-KYC as they could cease operations once regulators find it out.

If I'm not wrong then casinos will still continue to demand KYC even if they face no issues from government's side. The KYC has allowed casinos to pay the gamblers who are lucky and who win most of the games. Some of those lucky fellows often forget about completing their KYC details before placing bets and when they win, then they have to complete KYC verification in order to withdraw their winnings.

The casinos know that KYC is something that will allow them to get some funds in their bankroll so they can pay the one who won a Jackpot, I know that such players are very limited in number and they always can't win the house edge of a casino, but at least casinos sometimes get extra time to pay such winners because of that KYC verification thing.

Until now, casinos have stopped demanding KYC even though the casino has regulations, but when there is a problem, it requires a deeper level of investigation, so KYC is needed even though in quotes casinos ask for documents from their customers because they have rights and there are rules.

I don't think casinos will stop demanding KYC but eventually it will become mandatory as long as we can still play at non-KYC casinos then it will continue to be utilized.
I don't even think casinos allow laundering which even from obscure sources of funds will be questioned.

The government would always demand for taxes at all sectors and that is why they are just hovering all rounds to centralize even the decentralized ventures.
Definitely the idea of this KYC on the casino gambling is for the accessibility of the government to take datas of the number of customers being registered in the casino sites.

Let us also remember that gambling has rules and policies such as the polices that guides gamblers from Irresponsible gambling, so the gamblers datas would help the appropriate bodies in concerned of the victimized chronic and addicted gamblers to be on track for therapy towards their addictions but the government and the casino sites doesn't care about this aspect all becasue they are benefiting from it.

In other way it is a medium just as said to have individuals  in the sites on track in referencing to fraudulent just as the OP has said.
If not for that I do not think if the casino sites do really cares about knowing their customers for all the cares about is making the money as customers are loosing in their sites on basis.

I can get that if customers would have negative reviews and laments over the KYC, the casino sites would keep to an end of enrolling it while customers are registered in their platforms because I don't think if they could afford to loose them for another sites that may not unconvince customers like that .

Why would the government stop requiring the casinos to do KYC? If they did not demand it, then casinos could easily launder money and evade taxes. I think that is the absolute last thing that any rational government would want.

I have nothing against the regulations, just how they are implemented. A third party should not have access to my government issued documents.

Sorry to ask, but is there any benefit that the casino derives from knowing the true identity of their customers? Aside from the fact that many believe this casino can go ahead and sell customer data to other parties, is there any other use for KYC for them?
 
Unless on cases where the casino might have plan to scam someone or case of suspicious activities if not I don't even think casino have time to go through individual data and check there uploaded documents in other to know there real details.
 
Most of the verification is carried out by a bot, which has been programmed to check a few vital details, and if they are available on the document, they get approved, except in exceptional cases where they do manual verification.

and it's never going to be possible for the government to allow casino operate freely without KYC implementation on their site. One of their reason to have KYC is to limit or prevent the level of money laundering cases that is happening and those that Launder money are looking for evey available option to clean the money, it have been know by the government that casino is one system that is being used to clean tainted money.

There's no disadvantage on their part in taking away KYC KYC helps them to make their platform clean from cheaters, scammers, and hackers, casinos want a smooth and profitable operation and KYC helped them to implement this.
Besides KYC is a standard for all service platforms, in any platform where you need to deposit funds the platforms need to know who and where they are dealing and KYC keeps them safe.
So no casinos will take down KYC, it made them a legit platform and they will continue to ask for it.

And it’s one way for the government to control the casinos as much as they want to control also the gamblers and monitor the profits that are coming in to their account. So there’s no way that the government will stop this KYC verification, because aside that it’s giving them advantage, they are also benefiting some profits made by the casinos, and failure to comply it will put those casinos into closure.

Regulations on money laundering are complex and ever changing, but i don't think we are going back. Even if they weren't required to ask kyc from new users doesn't mean that they wouldn't need to ask kyc ever. But ask yourself, if you had build a casino, and that would start making huge profits for you. Would you:

A: Try evade regulations as much as possible and work intentionally knowing, that you might be enabling money laundering, and to top of that possibly getting terrorist flag for intentionally aiding terrorists or criminals that decided to use your site as part of their money laundering circle? And risk of going jail for ages for that?

B: Make it a legit business, where you wouldn't need to cover your tracks and watch over your shoulder rest of your life and just comply with regulations?

Obviously kyc affects their customers, that's why it's supposed to be effective.

They have to protect their business.

Although it is interesting that they're going to have that much cash in from those people. But for sure, those are not going to give them that much gain because they'd mostly going to be use as an outlet for money launderers to maximize their use of casinos.

There will be more likes to them if they revert back to being non kyc but the risk is high for them and who knows if a government agency that has been monitoring them will subpoena them for allowing these kinds of people on them and to roam freely on their platform.

Going back to the old ways is impossible for casinos when it could put their business at risk. Casinos not demanding KYC is still possible, but it'll be for a short while (and limited to specific users) because they'll have more problems to deal with as they gain success and operate at a higher level. Imagine being in their shoes and your casino doesn't need KYC, then the next few days you guys could be in hot waters because a high roller used questionable funds that trace back to a different person.

True, but this is really a pain in the head, even gambling or non-gambling or crypto or non-crypto related, having KYC is really a hassle. It's because of regulators, and if you just want to continue your business sometimes you just need to follow or comply, you have no choice. Best example is these gambling platform or centralized exchanges.

KYC is still very necessary in the world of gambling, apart from government regulations, KYC can also help casinos to filter their underage users.
In fact, it is very possible for underage players to use casinos and their games, but because the younger generation, especially those who are underage, do not yet have mental and emotional maturity, they can really badmouth the name of a particular casino and that can be the knife that makes their casino not sell.

that's just one of why casinos implement KYC to use their services.

The only thing that's pushing these casinos to implement KYC verifications within their platform is because the government and requiring them to do so. Without the regulators, I don't think the casino would bother to integrate all these KYC verification process as it will only just discourage some people to play on their online casino because of that extra piece of personal information which are very vital and impose a risks to each and every person's identity. Casinos won't usually care about who or what kind of people are using their website as long as they obey all the TOS and rules without abusing their system, thus making the KYC really unnecessary.
So, my answer to this questions is "No" they can't because the regulators won't allow that, otherwise these online casinos will lift all these whole KYC process to allow more people to play in their platform without the need to do the KYC. 

KYC has helped casinos understand their clientele and a lot of them have reaped huge benefits as a result. By verifying the identities of customers, casinos can cut down on money laundering and fraud risks, which will ultimately lead to better service based on client needs plus preferences. In my opinion, most casinos would still go for KYC even if not made mandatory by the government.

Although some might consider KYC an extra load, many others see merit in the future by building stronger customer relationships through integrity towards their business, those who adhere strictly to KYC. They are able to ensure that gambling environment is safe: safe for both gamblers and honest people involved, fairness is also maintained with trustworthiness upheld which contributes towards making it more attractive.

In the future, there is a possibility that some casinos may go back to not having KYC unless it is a must for the government but most will continue with KYC as a core part of their operation.

this will still depend to the response of gamblers , if those casino that you think are taking advantage of KYC found out that they are losing players because of that attitude then nothing that they can do but to stop asking for KYC or else consider the consequences .
so in the end it is the gamblers and the community that  will make the decisions to affect the reputation of those gambling sites.

If it were a regulated casino platform, then it would not be possible for them to stop asking their users for KYC, since that is the rule that has been given by the regulator, so they have to fulfill that obligation. However, for unregulated casinos, I think that so far they have operated without requiring KYC for their users, since there is no regulator that requires them to fulfill this obligation, so it is possible for unregulated casinos not to impose KYC obligations on their users - and make that the main advantage of their platform to attract gamblers.

It wont be like that, casino will not stop asking for KYC although they are losing some players because these players against KYC. Licensed casinos will have to follow the terms by the license especially related to KYC and it cant be avoided unless the casino want to remove their license and become unlicensed or unregulated casinos. KYC is still not mandatory in most crypto casinos, this is one of taken way by the casinos to keep their players stay. Even if KYC will be something mandatory in all casinos later, I believe most gamblers will follow it because they need it unless they want to stop gambling completely.

It is unlikely that casinos will return to non-KYC even if the government eventually no longer requires KYC verification. Casinos already benefit from KYC verification of their members so they will continue with it. However crypto casinos that are about to launch may see this as an opportunity to attract new members who don't want to do KYC. Crypto casinos will use this opportunity to develop their business because they know that many crypto gamblers do not want to do KYC. As for the issue of money laundering, it will be up to each casino to monitor it and they will have ways to detect money laundering in their casinos.

Until this Is a law requirement, they cannot stop to ask.
However KYC is also a way to avoid frauds related bonuses or multiple registrations.
for a certain reason it is something essential in these cases. anyone who has managed a site knows very well what happens in these cases...

This is of course possible. I understand that some casinos are asking KYC for legal reasons, but they are a casino after all, they could literally build it at a place that doesn't ask it at all, they need to realize that people are not happy about KYC and they do not want to be asked that. Want proof? Stake is so huge that they literally own a formula 1 team right now and they are not asking your KYC unless something happens, and yet there are still some places asking for KYC straight up before you even gamble.

Nobody can convince me that "it is for legal reasons" when the greatest biggest casino doesn't even ask it, and some small time casino asks it, that doesn't fit with each other. It's obvious that there is a way you don't have to ask it, and casinos should look for that, at least ask Stake how they do it.

In the aspect of the government controlling the casino, that is not what I am aware of, but what I fully know is that when the casinos are applying for a license of operation from the government, thethe government  always review the option of KYC in the casino, and if it's a casino that doesn't add KYC, the government can either deny granting them a license. The reason they review for KYC is, even if they are not going to look at it or get any profit at the moment, they know that in the future, if there is any case of money laundering or crime and if they trace it to a casino account, the casino should be able to provide them with the details of the person. So, I am not aware that the government goes after customers KYC information even if there is no crime for them to investigate that customer. 

KYC is getting global everyday and lots of casinos are utilizing the method in form of obeying the law. On the side of the players, nobody actually wants to undergo the KYC process for any reason. Nothing beneficial for the players who submit their KYC. It's just a way of regulating the activities of some players and also tracking the underaged players. Government can't stop it, due to the benefits they make through it. Submitting a meaningful information like KYC online is risky, at least for privacy purposes.

The server where the data is being stored could be tempered by a malicious third party, that's why players tend to fabricate information and submit. Casinos have no option than doing what the government wants. If the KYC policy is removed by the government, casinos wouldn't mind stop asking for the documents. Because they know that competitors will utilize the medium as a way of getting new customers, due to the no KYC policy, being something everyone online is looking out for. No essence still asking for KYC when no mandate is on casinos to provide their personal information.

Well, the long and short of the matter is that, there will never be a time when the government will turn around to ask casinos to stop collecting kyc data from their players or users, but rather, the government may or can even in the future apply stricter force or measures to ensure that all the online casinos that are registered comply with the mandatory customer kyc requirement, and they may at that time as well go after casinos that are not yet registered and hence, possibly not exercising the mandatory customer kyc policy.

But then on the other hand, if at all we will arrive at a stage where the government decide to stop online casinos from making their customers undergo kyc verification process, I trust that alot of casinos will immediately comply with the directive, most especially big casino like Stake that are not really after their customer's personally Data, but are more interested in providing a good and quality gambling platform and experience for her users and so on.
But another thing is, those casinos that possibly have discovered the good in customer kyc and want to go against the directive of the government to keep forcing kyc verification on their users for their own personal profit, such casinos will be boycotted by many, and if they don't turn around to do the right thing, they will definitely lose all their customers.

Most of us have already responded and the majority don't like it. But even if we don't like it, we have to respond accordingly and we can't do anything with it when most casinos does it. And if they do levels of kind of kyc, that's good as long as they put limit and they're not going to ask that much information which kind of fair for most. Because the big gamblers that are cashing out with big amounts, they have to be asked for it with more identities.

I don't think that they'd still do us unless they're willing to sell out their business already and whatever happens when the law starts to check them out. They have to bear with the consequence just to get back most of their customers.

Nah, it is still them and we don't have a say on it but the bigger say with these decisions are the authorities and them.

I don't think that they could specially if they want to be legitimate or legal.
They need to know if their players aren't playing in a country that is against gambling, also to know if they aren't underage.
They need to know those info and verify it so that they wouldn't face any charges.

I don't see any reason why the governments will stop demanding KYC and remove all the rules and regulations against casinos and all other platforms. They need taxes and information about who is doing what, and they won't be able to do that without regulating the platforms and asking them to demand KYC from their customers. So, even though it can be a hypothetical question or situation, it is never going to happen in reality.

In my opinion, if the government doesn't care about money launderers and frauds anymore, casinos wouldn't as well because most casinos understand that a lot of gamblers don't like revealing their identity even if they are not doing something bad, so they might use this opportunity to become kyc-free so that they can get more customers.

If they are licensed then there's no way that these things could really be removed out and also come to think that when it comes to this manner on which making up some verification into those people who are tending to abuse the site will really be having this kind of verification on which this is something a method on which they could really be able on doing so. Therefore, we shouldnt expect that they would really be removing out soon. Casinos whether offline or online then they are really that regulated and this is something that we should really be expecting out no matter what.
There might be still platforms nowadays which are remaining not to be that asking KYC but sooner or later they would really be switching up.

So far there are still platforms which are really that still into this kind of set up on where they do ask out KYC on the time that you do violate something or you do able
to hit up their withdrawal threshold on which this is something that you would really be expecting.

I think that change is no longer worth waiting for. The verification rule has become so basic that no one is particularly against it. Verification is the safety of the player, including the basis of the security of the game provider, but we can assume that through casinos they can launder funds through accounts that do not have verification? for now this is a win win solution.

I am not a casino businessman so the answer I will give is just as an ordinary player, in my opinion online casinos will change to not using KYC anymore if the government does not require them to implement KYC, however gambling sites need big money coming in, they will definitely will make it easier for users who carry large amounts of money, without thinking that it is criminal money.

They're all for the customers but because of government rules and to make their business legal, they have to obey the rules that are set on them.

During the early days, most of them are unregulated and not forcing everyone to do KYC and that's why we're all like living in peace as there's no intervention of regulators.

But today is different and we have to adopt that as well.

That's why even gambling without KYC in other platforms are available, I still prefer to play with apps and companies that requires KYC first before playing. Because for me, my own security is more important than the thrill of betting and making money. Also gambling sites with KYCs are often the reliable one's because they know who their participants are and they have the data for who are playing with them. They are regulated the first place and if that's the case, fraudulent activities are less likely with these gambling sites.

Casino will still use KYC for their members even if the governments doesn't requires casinos to do KYC verification for their members. Casino is already gets the benefits of knowing their customers so they will still apply that, especially for their members who used a lot of money to playing gambling. Knowing their customers helps casino to identify every customers who playing gambling on their casino. Casino can prevents the money launderers doing their action on their casino because casino will trying to figure out people who use the big money to playing gambling and make sure that they are not the launderers. If their customers doesn't use too big money to playing gambling, casino will not asks them to do KYC verification so it's better we don't use too much money to playing gambling if we wants to avoids KYC verification.

As far as I understand casinos will not stop kyc as there are many gamblers who can commit fraud so casinos will have kyc for security and customer convenience. KYC to know about customers and collect and store contact details. Casinos also use KYC for customer identification as part of the account opening process at financial institutions. Good quality casinos facilitate their sites through kyc.

If  you’re really interested in your security  that the thrills of making money then Decentralized casino should be your priority not the other way around - in centralized exchanges you’d definitely be asked for kyc which some people see as a risk for them, since they’ll have to give out their personal information to the site (although that’s not the case for me). The only reason why I don’t use a Decentralized gambling site is the fact that I just dint trust them yet (for a reason yet unknown to me ;D).

Some years back, there was a popular betting site here in my country, and the funny thing about the betting site is people can use to to fraud because it doesn't requires KYC before withdrawal. In that betting site you can easily deposit money with someone's bank account and you can also withdraw the funds freely without betting with the money you deposited, even when you create acct newly on the site. But now based on the complaints, the company have updated their site in such away that you will need a KYC before withdrawal. So in this case, I also don't think that casino will stop demanding for KYC, I don't know about the next generation of casinos but I strongly belief that casinos can't stop demanding for KYCs

That's the big deal about it, but kyc is really an important factors to run their casino because of security reasons due to fraudulent activities. As money launderers circulated around internet's anonymous identify, KYC is very important to prevent their unacceptable behavior.
This cases were very rampant and it's a very dangerous issue in which gambling operations facing every day, that's why they really need to do all sorts of limitations in order to run the system without any further circumstances.

They say that only casinos with licenses are the ones who can demand a KYC and I think it's also possible for licensed casinos to have their licenses removed, therefore it is truly possible for KYC-based casinos to become non-KYC casinos again.

I believe that for most casinos, what only matters to them is to have more customers and it does not really matter if their customers are criminals or what, so they are not actually fascinated by this KYC thing. Wagering requirements after a deposit can somehow help money laundering, so KYC must have a different purpose. There is also this one casino where I play that doesn't have wagering requirements after a deposit but still has a KYC.

Well i think it's due to the high level of online fraudulent activities currently thst triggered most casinos to start implementing the KYC policy, especially with those online Crypto casinos that have the interest of their customers security at heart. Well it’s not a bad implemention to help make sure bettors don't use the sites to launder money or cases with hackers, having easy assess to bettors funds.

 But some companies are not very transparent with their KYC policy, they make it very hard and frustrating for customers and i believe that's why some individuals are against the KYC policy, not that they feel it's bad but with the frustrating experience they've had from most online casinos. Well with the high crime rate online lately i think more gambling platforms would begin to  implement KYC policy instead of revert it.

Centralized platforms like casinos have to follow laws of their country's government or suffer the consequences.  The casino itself does not really have a choice in the matter.

And we are talking about laws that poorly hinder money laundering in the first place, so we have to really wonder whether or not the KYC procedure is not an unnecessary infringement upon privacy.

I am against KYC.

Why do I have to put myself at risk for identity theft just because the government is obsessed with control? I do not want my government-issued documents to fall in the hands of some third party. :o

I don't think so, the government had reasons for making sure casinos use kyc verification, against money laundering and to keep the law of above 18 gambling rule, I don't think there would ever be an innovation out of this.

Well I don't blame the government for this, in times past casino has been used by scammers to transfer money around, so the government issued verification orders to stop some of this actions, it's not so bad, what's the deal anyway, why do people complain about kyc verification all the time ?.

Yeah you are right, do you know that as the casino is registered to the government, the government will always give the casino their own terms, and the terms includes both KYC verification and lots more, both the amount that the casino will pay to the government. Many government have good reasons for giving out their own terms, so that people that will use the casino will not misuse it.

Government will always demand that casinos collect kyc from its customers. I see it as their own responsibility to protecting their citizens from fraud and to also know casino that are reputable or not. Any government that does not allow casinos to collect kyc verification from their customers is complicit in the crimes financial crimes that take place in that casino.

A casino having license does not automatically mean that they are legit -we have seen casinos that have acquired licenses and yet they carry out some shady activities. Take for example; 1xbit and 1xbet they are not just operating without licenses, they have theirs and yet that did not stop them from scamming their users.

And again, as mentioned by some users the reason for kyc is not only for user’s benefit but also to help the casino spot cases like multi-accounting and those that are in one way or another trying to abuse the casino.

True, license isnt everything or something that you could really be attached out on considering for a platform to be a legit and reputable one on which same as you had mentioned or that pointing out about 1xbit.
This do solidly shows that even if they are that licensed if they would really be tending out to scam their users then there would really be always that possibility and this is why we should really be that careful on dealing on what are the sites that we are really that dealing. As for talking about demanding KYC then there are platforms now asking for some lite KYC on which asking some basic information before you could really be able to make that registration.

EX. Stake - Before they've been just fine on making some registration but now they are asking for some verification before you could be able to make that deposit.   
      Roobet- Asking some lite KYC

When you are regulated casino then you would really be needing on following up some rules for you to follow on but well we do have
tons of options on which we could really be able to take.

There are many reasons why many casino will keep asking for KYC from their users and this is not because of the reason of trying to get your information and keep it to themselves but the government can always request for our information or when it is time for us to proof that we are the owner of the account in case when things goes wrong. It is very important for us to make sure that we do the necessary things and stay safe and we are not going to have problems with the government. It is important we keep doing things that will not attract us to a KYC casino especially for those of us that don't want to share our information to online casinos.

I think for any casino that wants to be free of clear of any alleged involvement with any potential criminals or money launders should definitely have a firm KYC policy and AML policy. Others who do not will pose as liability risks if a government should ever request this information from them and they don’t have it, unless it’s legal in that country and not a requirement to have such policies in place.

It is not as if casinos right now have too much of an option, years ago it was common for many trusted casinos to not ask for KYC, unless there was some suspicious activity or you got a big win.

But governments fearing the popularity of the market of cryptocurrencies as a whole, and taking into account the rising popularity of casinos since the pandemic began, have taken the decision to be more forceful with businesses like CEXs and casinos, so now if you are not willing to identify yourself, you cannot really make use of those services anymore.

Why would casino stop asking KYC when they are mandated by government , and also why do they need to stop asking when the truth is this is one of their power against winners?
sometimes pretending that they are just preventing abusers and cheaters but even legit winners are turning to be the victim so not sure if this will ever stopped but i doubt it mate.

there is a gap left by casinos in the past that did not require KYC. and it is exploited by people today to carry out criminal acts such as money laundering.
Of course, it is also uncomfortable for the casino when their platform is used to commit crimes and if it is publicized by the government that handles certain cases, it could be bad for the casino's name.
So both casinos and the government ultimately have to make KYC a way to prevent bad things. KYC is not just about trust labels.

Good point, I don't think government would ever seize demanding KYC from casino clients. They're against anything totally private and anonymous, so they'll almost never give their consent in favor of anonymity. They like being in control and I think KYC helps them achieve such regulations.

Even if it happens, casinos wouldn't readily stop because it kind of helps in their auditing when the time comes. Government victimizes big companies to benefit highly from them. If KYC is no more demanded by a recent government, the possibility that it will be demanded by the next one is high, so reputable casinos would always want to  play safe and keep their record expecting to escape any smart move on them by the government.

Casinos play it safe, they dont want trouble from the governments and they dont want criminals to use their site as an intermediary.

So they allow people to run without KYC on signup because they want more people to get into the habit of gambling but when a certain trigger is met, the account gets flagged for KYC/AML procedures.

They are only saving their business and to keep it running they do these things. It is here to stay and it is better players get used to it.

kyc verification is very important to any platform that this with the casino sometimes to form casino platforms does not really the mind focusing on both for me it will be preferable and the understanding for we to have done our kyc verification for any platform that we are into especially casino because I understand that casino platforms uses the avenue of not being verified your account to come against their participant mostly some casino platforms that have the mindset of scamming people so we should set government aside of being verified in any platform because any casino platform how plans of what they want.

The truth is that most people tend to love Casinos that has enable KYC because it is believed that those casinos have a good security measures to keep gamblers data private unlike most of the Non KYC Casinos that allows any kind of people to open account with them without actually no the kind of person they are, though I'm not saying that all the Non KYC Casinos doesn't have a good security measures but I don't think we can compare those Non KYC to a KYC casinos in terms of users privacy.

However even if the government changed there mind to allow casinos decide if they should stop or continues the use of KYC on there platform I believe that those Casinos will still keep using KYC because is actually the best way to no there customers and also to prevent unauthorized access from a third party were as if the platform noticed a strange attempt of login from unknown source they will require facial verification to be sure if truly is the person. But however if the KYC is not enabled on a casinos they hardly dictate if is the third party or not.

Yeah I'm seeing a very sensible reason with what your saying, definitely the government are against decentralized currency so then what will become of the casinos I think it's same thing thats applicable to All of them,so casinos can't stop demanding KYC documents and verification because they see it as a measure of being on the safer side rather than loosing.

Nevertheless I believe KYC helps to ease every functions and risk factor to scammers and hacks so whether the government is in support or not KYC verification should be a necessity.

Casino will not stops verification for their members to watch the money flows to their site. If there's something suspicious from their members, they will directly check it and make sure that's a normal things or they needs to do further verification to knows the truth. Casino just wants to make sure their business are not a place to do money launder because they realizes that big money involved in their business so they will check everything, including asking their members to do KYC. The benefits of KYC for their member are their members can deposit to playing gambling and withdraw big money without any suspicious from the casino. But if their members doesn't wants to do KYC, they don't have to use big money and just deposit enough money to playing gambling. But many people doesn't do this as they thinks that when use big money can gives a big chance to wins but that is not right.

yeah , there are tons of issues back in the days that gambling sites being used as medium for money laundering

and that is the part that i believe they are trapping players because in withdrawal the will force you to provide KYC lol.

they are saving business but also taking advantage of the people in time of they need to take out their money .

Instead of thinking about negative things about those KYC demanded by government to implement on the casino maybe its best to look at it on more brighter side since they are just helping those businesses to eliminate any possible fraud transactions and other illegal activities to be done on their casinos. That's why I don't question on why this requirement will be ask since its for betterment for all of the user and this is also extra layer of protection since we can verify that the account is ours especially if there's sudden hackings or any close to that issue happened on our account. For sure this KYC will continue to be ask and for sure there would be a lot more stricter implementation of the rules regarding on this conditions.

casinos that demands for KYC are trying to do their best so that people won't use the advantage of not requesting KYC for money laundry. Every company want to keep their reputations clean that they they demands for KYC is very important to them. If any transaction is suspicious, the casino can trace it quickly. Casino know the advantage of gambling that's why they always request for it especially if the gambler want to withdraw big money for the first time.

Casinos will not stop demanding for KYC even if the government is not making it compulsory anymore. Almost every casino has KYC feature but they don't make it compulsory for their customers until the need for it arise. Even without KYC you can gamble and withdraw your money, only if you disobey any of the casinos rule they will ask you to perform the KYC.

I don’t think it will be possible for a casino to stop demanding for a kyc because of the amount of the insecurity in the world now, a lot of security should be set up to avoid so much fraudulent act in someone account to avoid issues and a lot of reports of bank issues. This is needed as much as I can imagine to know whosoever that is behind some money laundering case and stop stealing money to gamble, well sometimes some people need as much as important.

There are many casino sites that do not require kyc for new users. Because they don't want to harass new users. kyc is also not mandatory in various reputable casino sites. New users are given an amount limit to gamble without kyc. But when they cross that limit kyc becomes mandatory for them. It is not a problem for regular gamblers to kyc on a particular site of their choice. because they trust the site,so they gamble there regularly. Nowadays no one considers kyc very important because the current technology is so updated that different platforms know you more than you know yourself.  And sell your data to other platforms. like Facebook. so I don't care much about kyc documents

If the government didn't make KYC verification compulsory anymore and other entities e.g. license, gambling providers, partner etc didn't demand the casino to force KYC verification, I believe the casino will stop demanding for KYC.

Asking KYC will reduce people who want to gamble, if they're free everyone will like to gamble on the casino and will make the casino earn more profit.

You can post your personal documents here since you said you don't care anymore.

But as time goes by casinos without KYC will become increasingly difficult to find. Government regulations continue to tighten casino operations and if casinos want to operate freely in a country then they must comply with the rules. So casinos also need income rather than trying to maintain non-KYC principles but the income is less than optimal. Finally the regulations were approved and it was proven that casino revenues were growing rapidly. Likewise Crypto Casino, so in the next 5 - 10 years somehow the fate of casinos will definitely be centered under government supervision. Regarding providing data, as long as our goal is to play and there is no intention to abuse the casino for fraud or other things, just fulfill KYC and the casino will also protect user data. So far crypto casinos are still better because as far as I know fiat casinos have used a lot of user data to spam promotions via mobile phone numbers.

I appreciate the initiative of the government for KYC for casinos. I don't see anything wrong, and won't suggest casinos go back to non KYC era. This serves a customer base system, any digital business or sites outside gambling that doesn't demand KYC from her customers is a SCAM. They are there to infiltrate, I know we all want privacy that the sole reason you also know the sites you register with or gamble with in areas of trust and privacy of data.
If we really understand what KYC really is, we won't be bothered or fight against this nice policy. This also stop under-age gambling and the likes, mehnn this can't be summed up.

If the casino will stop demanding or not, it there choice and Government dialogue.

it has become a common thing in businesses when customers are given convenience to attract their interest in using the services they provide, but when there are special requirements that need to be met by the business, then they will charge users more for them to comply. that's why it's important for users to know the regulations of the casino they use and what the kyc regulations are on that platform. don't let an incident happen when a user wins the jackpot but they are tripped up by a kyc problem and the casino alleges that the account is illegal and they have no obligation to pay the reward.

They can stop but they're following a law that's above them which is the one that's in place to protect the interests of the people and mostly, of the government, I mean if there's no one that's complying with the AML policy in place, most people that are in power in the government won't have enough enough to embezzemle for their warchest that they're going to need for their next election, that's how they've been doing it all this time, they use the taxes to pocket them so they can run for office again. I don't think that they'll ever stop that KYC policy demand anytime soon, I'm pretty sure that it's never going to be really difficult for anyone to think that it's only logical to have this one in place.

Well the government can condition any firm they want especially when it has to do with platforms that are used for putting and removing of money and that's why they actually conditioned the crypto casino to start requesting KYC from their customers just because of the fact that their is every possiblity that these casino can be used as a means of collecting and laundering money illegally. And with this at the forefront I don't think they would ever be a time that the need for KYC verification will ever stop also this is main reasons why the government are unto mixers because they have the ability to be used to launder money without people or anyone knowing.

As mentioned before in a different post - casino do not just request for kyc because they only want to prevent money laundering, they also use kyc to prevent cheaters from exploiting their site and abusing some bonuses that they have installed for users.

We have seen cases where some users use multiple accounts for ndbs (no deposit bonuses) and after getting some money from one of the accounts they’ll then tip their main account with what they could get from their other accounts - but with much those type of cheats can be stopped.

If we do tend to look on their terms and conditions all the time then it would really be that be mentioned about those probabilities which its true.

Here for example in Rollbit.
By accepting these Terms in registering or using the Website You acknowledge and agree that we are entitled to conduct any and all such identification, credit, fraud and other verification checks from time to time that we may require and/or may be required by applicable laws and regulations and/or by the relevant regulatory authorities for use of the Website and our Services generally. You agree that You will provide us with all information that we require in connection with such verification checks. We will be entitled to suspend or restrict Your account in any way that we deem appropriate, until such time as we have completed those verification checks to our sole satisfaction.


Source: https://rollbit.com/terms-and-conditions


Aside from legal reasons it would be also be that asked on the moment that you would really be that making those kind of cheating
activity on which making up some verification checks will really be that anticipated or expected. So its not really that just only on sole reason but rather in multiple.

Casino will trying to gives different experiences to their members and will gives the best services to their members. Casino knows that their members willing to stay to the casino and not moves to the other casinos even if their members must do KYC. Casino knows about gets reputations will be the way to gets trust from their members so they will not trying to do anything bad that can makes their reputations is down. Requesting KYC to their members will makes casino knows who their members and what their activities while playing gambling to their casino. When there's a suspicious activity from their members, the casino will cross check their members account and asks about the activities and if their members can proves they don't do that suspicious, casino will lets it because they knows their members and their behavior so far.

Here in our country, there are other gambling casinos that legally operate gambling here, apart from land-based casinos. And our government also knows that the number of people addicted to gambling is also increasing. And most gamblers here, too, are addicted to online casinos. 

And our government is also aware that many people have become addicted to gambling; even minors can gamble. That's why the government has made laws here that if a casino is illegal, our government will immediately shut it down.

All of us who are users want to use something after having their own privacy. There is no shortage of competition for online casino companies these days as there are now many casino companies worldwide. There are many casino establishments that require us to do KYC verification to continue gambling operations in the casino but there are some casinos that are giving gambling permission without KYC to attract customers. As we give utmost importance to our security, we will definitely use those casinos that do not have KYC verification. But in this case we must look at one more thing seriously that there are many casinos that can cheat the users so to avoid cheating we must conduct our gambling activities in a reliable casino.

The simple solution to that is dont play on casinos.

You want to use their service you have to follow their terms and conditions, simple as that. Or stick to gambling places that are legal in your country and dont go to online casinos.

Today the casino numbers have increased because they initially dont ask for KYC and when they do, people start moving to another casino and the previous one struggles to keep up. This has led to a toxic culture among the casinos which most of the players are unaware of.

A simple solution? Tell this to avid gamblers and those with a gambling addiction. :)

I personally don’t like at all that these conditions are drawn up without taking into account the interests of gamblers, but with the sole purpose of allowing casino organizers to cover their asses from the influence of regulatory authorities. And what should gamblers do who want to play in a casino, but the conditions of all casinos contradict their confidentiality (KYC)?

The advantage of online casinos is that you can play from your couch and have a low entry threshold for betting. Offline casinos will not be to your liking because of this.

The surprise is that KYCs suddenly begin to be demanded (although initially this was not the case) as soon as the gambler receives a more or less impressive win. I consider this an abuse of the casino's terms and conditions.

I thought as much because the question should have centered more on the core essence of having KYC in casino houses, knowing palpably well that kyc is a regulatory process of ascertaining the identity and other vital information of a financial user. it is not bad that casino house know their customers because it helps them to guide against money laundry. i don't think any casino can revert to non KYC just to have more customer, because i believe that every business requires trust and integrity to keep their business going, so if kyc will make them keep to that standard coupled with the government demands on KYC, i  believe casino will stick to KYC.

Sooner or later casinos will require KYC in the future because of this given the regulatory rules they have in the license, now casinos are still loose for small players KYC is not required when you win big then it must pass what the casino asks for and is usually KYC verification.

Casino problems always come and go including some reputable casinos there is always the problem of users complaining but they always solve well even if there is more revelant evidence then the casino can suspend your balance.

Simply at the already popular casinos I think they will be far from being scammed, so I am now never interested in new casinos unless waiting for a lot of positive feedback to come.

I won't encourage casino platforms to stop demanding KYC. KYC help keep users in check and also helps eliminate underage gamblers, like you said if the government should stop asking for these KYC some casinos will stop asking new users for KYC, normally most users don't like the stress of doing KYC due to the stress or having all the necessary documents.

That is not a stress at all if in the first place you already understand that KYC is already must in a regulated casino. Besides, what they are asking as just documents that asa  citizen you should have, like national ID or passport, so if you trust a casino, you'll not hesitate to submit it when they ask, or best if from the very beginning so you will not longer worry in the future.

Always keep in mind that casino does not implement their own rules, they are mandated by the goverment to implement it that's why they follow, because if they don't their license are at risk of getting revoked, so you know how risky for them to violate too.

There are still a variety of non KYC requiring casinos out there. I have personally noticed that a majority of casinos that offer the non KYC requiring feature to be able to place bets and carry out gambling activities are mostly crypto currency accepting casinos. However although some still do require KYC, those that don't usually take it as a voluntary action. That is why it is important to make sure you go through the casino's terms and conditions as well as privacy just to be aware of what you are about to opt into.
I have come to notice that the reason most companies and casinos usually require KYC do it most times because of certain government policies in that region. This is because without KYC being mandatory the casino will have a larger audience or infact set of users.

Every time we enter their online casino, there are terms and conditions, so it must be obeyed, if we violate the casino will take actions that do not follow the rules.

In the past there may still be many casinos that do not ask for KYC but now it is almost mandatory in the sense of large withdrawals, casinos will keep an eye on such a large flow of funds fearing that it is money laundering they think even though it is not an offense but most cases of them are arrested if they do not provide KYC as requested by the casino.

It is unfair to see from the gamblers point of view but from the casino's point of view it is very much needed. This can be argued in different manners, but end of the day the gamblers will not stop gambling so they "need" the casinos to run and the casinos "need" the players money to keep itself running while keeping it safe from money laundering.

There is always the option to jump on the next casino in line who are yet to introduce the KYC and use them for the next few months. I dont see any workaround at present. In future legal stuff will be streamlined, hopefully and we can see peaceful gambling happening (if that made sense!).

Casinos need gamblers and gamblers cannot do anything (besides betting) if there are not casinos around. Even though at first we could see this relationship as symbiotic and well balanced, there is a third entity which is involved: regulators and the government. They do not necessarily "need" gamblers or casinos to function or comply with their basic duties, though, the tax from both the casinos and lucky gamblers certainly help to run a country.
KYC and AML were not always a thing, and the relationship worked, but it was also true organized crime had their way with money laundering, they had more liquidity. I see the KYC as a kind of referee within the gambling ecosystem, filtering out "gamblers" with bad intentions and letting alone those who just want to enjoy a service.
Though, it is completely different thing when a shady casino (which may or not lack of liquidity) abuses the referee and turns it against a legitimate gambler who just want to withdraw his money to his personal wallet.

Is totally depend on that casino and I think it's possible to stop asking KYC verification if the casino want. But in this case the licence for casino cannot be claimed because for avoiding the money laundering so in this regard of policy if you are feel safe on a casino who don't have licence and they don't required the KYC then it possible but most of the case those who don't asking kyc verification are scammer.

Gambling is big business, folks. It generates cash and jobs, benefiting everyone. You have casinos for amusement and excitement. Gamblers power the enterprise. Beautiful. Of sure, we need rules. We cant let criminals use casinos as piggy banks. So KYC and AML are needed. These measures maintain system integrity and fair play.

However, some of these operators, they're not playing fair themselves. They're exploiting these rules to get every penny from gamblers. Thats wrong. It hurts business, gamblers, and everyone. We must ensure correct use of these regulations. We need greater control, clearer standards, and transparency. We must ensure the system works for everyone, not only casinos. Thats the only way this industry can thrive.

KYC is not really a condition of governments, it is international, it has nothing to do directly with the "good intentions" of governments in what you mention, in fact there are countries where taxes are not charged on profits, etc. Casinos acquire them through international treaties that involve other countries.

Sometimes the countries that annoy a Casino the most are not those of your country of origin.

United Kingdom: Overview of Relevant KYC/CDD Laws and Regulation
https://financialcrimeacademy.org/united-kingdom/

That's not possible for casinos to stop the KYC process in the future for various reasons, not just because the government is asking for the players documents, also the casino itself needs to know your identity most of the time to detect the cheaters and ban them forever, otherwise such people would easily open a new account using another device or VPN. Other reason might be due to bonus or promotion abusers, if the casino started a good promotion or bonus, many gamblers would also take advantage by opening new accounts to claim the bonus multiple times.

Answering to your question here, No casinos will only demend more documents from gamblers and not the opposite, however, you have the choice to gamble with decentralized casinos always without the need to submit your documents or even go through KYC process.

Well, not to doubt or debate your input., but kyc like most of us know, is a function of the regulatory arm of the government, which also means that it's a thing that was introduced by the government and passed to the regulatory body who is overseeing to its implementation in various systems, both online and offline.

And I agree that kyc process and or origin might differ for different countries, but then, one thing is very certain, and that is the fact that it is all programmed towards achieving the same goal.

And I have a question really, and it's that, if kyc was not something that was birthed by the government, how then did it get into the constitution to become a law which the regulatory body must see to its implemented?
And what legal rights does casinos have to request customer's private document for kyc verification if the government haven't given them that power through their issued license to operate, and other documents we might not know of?

I firmly believe that KYC has come to stay in the gambling industry, every reputable casino and bet companies will demand for it, so that people and governments will not point accusing fingers at them for aiding money laundering. Many gamblers will prefer anonymity in their gambling but because criminals are using gambling accounts to facilitate money laundering, every genuine gambler needs to understand that it has become necessary for them to submit KYC to help mentain the sanity of the gambling industry. Now criminals have fewer options to launder money, so despite the odds of submitting KYC, it serves a greater good.

KYC was not a problem whether it was government or international. The problem is that the KYC data is not kept secure. Whatever it is trustworthy organizations or less trustworthy organizations, until now, big organizations have been accused of KYC data leaks. Until a certain time, they keep the data secure but at some point, they sell it to a third party.

Besides, most of the time online investment platforms start KYC systems in case of harassment of its users. Everyone says KYC is important to prevent hackers, the thinking is that platforms which have launched KYC systems in place are never hacked in their life. Even KYC data gets hacked by hacker, so how to prevent hackers with KYC! lol..

The earlier the better we realized that the casinos cannot stop demanding for KYC because its through this means that they got to know the true identity of their users and know how any other person may try to hack or take over another users account through impersonation, but when they were unable to pass the KYC procedures, it makes it difficult for them to take over the account and the system detect for any bridge or attempt in providing false information's.

But it is true that in the future, identity will be demanded from all customers with certain restrictions on KYC because the most powerful reason is the strict regulatory reasons for gambling operations, gambling licenses require verification and audits and are within the scope of the law that makes it feasible to operate as a gambling platform.

And yes, maybe one of the other goals as you said, reducing fraudsters in certain events, or money laundering, when it cannot be verified that he really earned money / entered money from gambling using money that is not in the realm of fraud or theft or the proceeds of crime so that it can be said that KYC is very important today and has become a normal standardization for gambling, I don't think it will be a problem if this continues, because even though it was previously about but today people are more casual and accept the regulation.

You forgot to mention money laundering. Casino are always afraid of been link with money Laundering despite having atleast a single wager before your deposit can be withdraw but you know, a person who want to wash his money to a new money wouldn't be afraid to lose small amount of moneyor even risk it all, like just eager your total balance bet Manchester City match( with 1 goal) over a minor team with odd of 1.01, it's worth and these are the kind of things they fear without kyc.

But on a serious note, many casino doesn't really out anti money laundering before anyone, they just care about cheaters, only few ones that are popular, reputable and are widely known that stick to this traditions because they don't want any problems that will arise later and been fine for something they could have avoided in the beginning and it the money they might pay will be bigger than anything they are doing at the moment.

Well, this I would say is just one of the not so important benefits of kyc, I call it not so important because ordinarily, players using or utilizing the security features of the casinos should be able to secure their account well enough from being hacked, so kyc verification in this regard doesn't really make much of a difference, not to talk of the fact that casinos even sometimes get hacked and users kyc documents will be stolen, which is also is one of the risks of handing this documents over to third parties.

But then, like you said, kyc will never come to a stop, but rather, will get improved as time goes on, the only way kyc will come to a stop is if the government declares that it should be stopped, and that online casinos and other companies like crypto exchanges, forex brokers and other online financial firms should stop requesting and collecting customer's private data, this is the only way kyc will be stopped or halted.
But then, we all should already know that the government will never do this, not in this present generation or next.

It is very difficult to expect the government to repeal the rules that have been set for casinos and exchanges, especially given the purpose of their implementation. The government hopes that many illegal acts such as money laundering can be prevented or at least reduced with KYC, but businesses man will probably try to build casinos without KYC to reach the many privacy-conscious customers. Even if it is possible to see the government giving relaxation to the rules, but they will not allow KYC on casinos and exchanges to be revoked.

I agree with the above notion, at least casinos can be safer in terms of avoiding many illegal actions on their sites if they maintain KYC rules.

and one more advantage is that it protects against account theft; it will be easier to restore it if the owner has evidence and documents. And you’re right, casinos and other gambling sites will not remove verification, since they don’t need unnecessary problems; there are enough unscrupulous players and it’s easier to launder money all through gambling sites is a fact.

However it's risky not to verify KYC and it's also risky to verify KYC on casino. Just like you said about password and theft, when you are the the owner of the account and you can easily retrieve it back because you have all the documents you used in verifying the gamble account. When you verify your KYC it might be exposed and many more things can happen if the casino you used your documents to verify KYC is not 100% safe.

Casino platforms still require KYC, this is related to local bank transactions. KYC is not a legal standing, but to be able to make withdrawals to local banks. All casino platforms can make deposits from different banks or those belonging to other people, but cannot make withdrawals to banks in names different from those registered on the account. Maybe this concept does not apply to all platforms, because there are casino platforms that can make deposits and withdrawals with crypto.

Money laundering can be done in many ways today. And it is difficult for the government to detect this. So KYC is not the only correct reason for money laundering.

Neither it would really be on that payment method kind of requirement or simply they've been trying out to abide some terms and conditions with their license on which this is something that make them trying out to impose those kind of KYC on regarding into the time that you would really be dealing up with this business. Some could really be still be able to continue to make it a non-KYC thing on which we know that this market is really that highly frowning about with those kind of verifications on which cryptocurrency things shouldnt really be and this would really be just that a normal approach to have for someone who would really be dealing up with things
here on crypto space.

On the moment that they would be able to encounter on things which are really that needing up for some verification then our impressions would really be something that do changed up. On the moment
that you will really be having those negative impressions then you would be finding up another option on which it will really be just that a normal approach or reactions to have.
Would they stop on on requiring KYC? No. i would really rather see that it would really be that become a standard thing instead.

Well I think your point is a very valid one and where I can relate to this more is for those arbitrage bettors, I think the casino needs KYC to actually fish out such gamblers because I believe not all casino agree with gamblers that play such type of games and with the aid of KYC maybe they can trace out those users and actually restrict their accounts.

Impersonation will occur but it is very rare and even less likely for impersonation in creating an account or registering an account, which is worse than that is money laundering and or money that is deposited is money generated from theft or corruption or whatever it is and is in the search for criminals, so the potential is very large to be used in facilitating fraud.

KYC cannot be stopped if you look at the worst possibilities that occur if you do not apply KYC to each user, this is just a step to anticipate a crime that might be used by fraudulent people.

It is highly unlikely that various casinos will stop claiming KYC procedures. Because regulatory requirements aimed at preventing money laundering, fraud and other financial crimes are unlikely to stop it. Casinos are required to verify the identity of their patrons and ensure compliance with the law. So that it can provide complete protection against illegal activities. All of these issues are troublesome for the customer but are an essential part of the casino industry to maintain security.

Thankfully, someone understands what is happening and they cannot be a non-KYC gambling site because what you said could happen anytime.
Government where their business is located can take advantage of the fact that they cannot provide a simple KYC of their customers and it could lead to money laundering because there's nothing provided.
Now just that, it's also for the security of their patrons as many who wins big cannot even get out to withdraw it. This means those who did KYC are the only ones who could get in and out without stand hassle.
Long term, I think KYC is good for both ends unless we are hiding something.

It quite unfortunate that Casinos only ask if the user registering the account is up to 18 without them working on further verification process, and children below 18 can simply register without the casino even knowing. Though even some adult would prefer not to go through the process of providing a means of verification to prove that they are actually up to 18, and I believe this is among the reason why casino decided to start showing less concern for the verification process. The KYC process is really important to the casino and also and also to the society as it would also reduce the number of persons creating multiple accounts for abuse.

Do you think casinos can stop demanding KYC? well in this case some casino might stop demanding KYC and back to non KYC and make all different people join their platform. Tho I also believe that if government stop demanding KYC service there is some platform that still require KYC or you can signup without KYC until hit certain limit.

But the real answer I don't think the government will pull out the rule about KYC in casino. In my opinion

Firstly, the government will never change its rules regarding KYC, in fact they will probably try to implement things that are more difficult, and it has become a habit to be able to control its people, but if that happens, I doubt the casinos will also become non-KYC, without meaning to accuse the casinos, we have often seen how casinos use KYC reasons to withhold their users' money when it comes to large funds, and this seems to be effective.
Many casinos don't mention KYC clearly, meaning they only ask their players to do it because of certain circumstances, so there are also casinos that actually don't like to implement KYC on their users, so in my opinion if that happens then there will be two camps of casinos that stick with KYC and casinos that are truly free from KYC, I'm sure there will still be fans of casinos with KYC like traders who still choose CEX even though there are DEXes that don't require KYC.

Casinos will asks their new users if they are up 18 years or not but casinos will asks them to continue with the KYC process later so casino can knows who are their users. Casino with reputations doesn't wants to gets a problem so they will asks their users to do KYC. Casino will not wants to stops demanding KYC for their user because casino knows that their place can be a targets for those who wants to do money laundry or other crimes.

That's why we must be careful when selecting the casino and makes sure that the casino have a good reputations so we don't have to worry if they will abuses our identity for other bad things. When we can have a reputable casino and they asks us to do KYC, we can follows the instruction without have a bad thinks if the casino will scams us. Maybe in the future, the government will forces all casino to apply KYC for their users so the governments can watch and monitor people who often playing gambling.

If casinos stops KYC procedures it will become so risky because it definitely will be the refuge of money launderers in the sense that they will feel they can just deposit money in their casino accounts and make withdrawal whenever they wish to and any system without regulations makes it become porous because there will be so many irregularities and untrusted activities that will be going on and a lot of people may not even like to use any casino without KYC requirements since it is mostly fraudsters and criminals that doesn't like their identity to be known when involving in any financial dealings with any company or organization.

And come to think that being not regulated or something not being licensed will really be not that good into peoples view and on the moment that they will really be getting one then expect that they would really be that getting in line with government rules and regulations on which it would really be that definitely be that normal that they would really be applying those KYC on which we know that this is really just that typical for a centralized or licensed business specially gambling industry is really that having that money laundering kind of protection on which it will really be normal that they will really be setting those bars. This is why to those platforms which arent asking some KYC as of this moment will really be that be having those possible integration in the future when things becomes more strict
specially into these type of businesses.