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Title: Is more regulation coming to online gambling?
Post by: alani123 on May 07, 2024, 08:21:12 AM
Currently even in countries where gambling is regulated through strict licensing schemes and laws, there's very little enforcement of regulation. Governments are just happy to consider the deal done with a DNS level blocklist, no infractions are given to those playing at non-licensed casinos online and none to those operating them too.

This is a twofold problem in some cases. For one, the informed gambler can easily avoid a DNS level block and play at his favorite casino without any consequences. The majority of gamblers will not even know how to overcome a DNS level block so they opt to play at licensed casinos. Arguably, bringing more enforcement against online casinos that don't pursue licenses would be very hard as they operate legally abroad, plus the online block gives them credence to operate with users not affected by blocks. Surely some users know how to overcome blocks but it's a very small minority.

But I think there's a type of regulation that governments could pursue which if implemented would affect everyone's gambling.
The way casinos run slot games these days is through licensing. The company making the games runs them in their own servers, and then the casino embeds a space in their online website. Many of the slots providers run somewhere out of Europe like for example Evolution Gaming, Fantasma Games and more being even listed companies in Sweden.

Imagine if regulators went after these companies and forced them to do everything in their power to stop serving any gambler accessing their licensed games through unlicensed casinos in their country of residence. It would make gambling very hard as casinos would then have a much more limited scope of games to run. Live blackjack and slots by evolution, its subsidiaries as well as any company domiciled in the same place, which are the most popular slots and live games providers, would be out of reach in most crypto casinos to most people. And given than Evolution and other popular providers are fully operating in EU, it would be very easy to target them with enforcement, just by changing a law.

Given the prevalence of online gambling and crypto casinos I think this might be a realistic development that could be coming. It makes me wonder what the future of gambling online with crypto will be then. Will casinos be forced to create their own slot and live games? And perhaps even bring workers abroad to run them without legal consequence? What do you think?


Title: Re: Is more regulation coming to online gambling?
Post by: swogerino on May 07, 2024, 08:56:38 AM
Currently even in countries where gambling is regulated through strict licensing schemes and laws, there's very little enforcement of regulation. Governments are just happy to consider the deal done with a DNS level blocklist, no infractions are given to those playing at non-licensed casinos online and none to those operating them too.

This is a twofold problem in some cases. For one, the informed gambler can easily avoid a DNS level block and play at his favorite casino without any consequences. The majority of gamblers will not even know how to overcome a DNS level block so they opt to play at licensed casinos. Arguably, bringing more enforcement against online casinos that don't pursue licenses would be very hard as they operate legally abroad, plus the online block gives them credence to operate with users not affected by blocks. Surely some users know how to overcome blocks but it's a very small minority.

But I think there's a type of regulation that governments could pursue which if implemented would affect everyone's gambling.
The way casinos run slot games these days is through licensing. The company making the games runs them in their own servers, and then the casino embeds a space in their online website. Many of the slots providers run somewhere out of Europe like for example Evolution Gaming, Fantasma Games and more being even listed companies in Sweden.

Imagine if regulators went after these companies and forced them to do everything in their power to stop serving any gambler accessing their licensed games through unlicensed casinos in their country of residence. It would make gambling very hard as casinos would then have a much more limited scope of games to run. Live blackjack and slots by evolution, its subsidiaries as well as any company domiciled in the same place, which are the most popular slots and live games providers, would be out of reach in most crypto casinos to most people. And given than Evolution and other popular providers are fully operating in EU, it would be very easy to target them with enforcement, just by changing a law.

Given the prevalence of online gambling and crypto casinos I think this might be a realistic development that could be coming. It makes me wonder what the future of gambling online with crypto will be then. Will casinos be forced to create their own slot and live games? And perhaps even bring workers abroad to run them without legal consequence? What do you think?

I don't think there is a reason why anyone would want to play in non reputable casinos in the first place,all reputable ones are licensed and there is no need to be blocking them through the DNS which anyone can change by putting the Google one of 4 eights or OpenDns servers which most ISP-s and government do not block.If someone wants to still play at those unlicensed or not regulated casinos he can do so by using a VPN or changing the DNS,even the uninformed gambler will try to find a way to reach that blocked casino and will soon with a simple google search how to access it again.


Title: Re: Is more regulation coming to online gambling?
Post by: Davidvictorson on May 07, 2024, 09:12:42 AM

Given the prevalence of online gambling and crypto casinos I think this might be a realistic development that could be coming. It makes me wonder what the future of gambling online with crypto will be then. Will casinos be forced to create their own slot and live games? And perhaps even bring workers abroad to run them without legal consequence? What do you think?
I don't see how this is going to be a problem for those of us living in countries where gambling is legal and these casinos operate. If the government target slot game providers, like Evolution Gaming and compels them to not grant access to their games on unlicensed platforms. The only people affected will be those who patronize these platforms. The only way I see that this would significantly affect game providers is if they have more number of gamblers playing their slot games at unlicenced the their licensed counterparts.


Title: Re: Is more regulation coming to online gambling?
Post by: summonerrk on May 07, 2024, 09:24:30 AM
what do you think?

Online casinos are very difficult to ban in any country in the world unless you are in China and you are not affected by a Chinese Firewall. It is also probably in North Korea, where they have their own Internet consisting of several sites. In the whole other world, no matter how the governments of countries try to ban something, they do not succeed. A banned site can always be opened via VPN and nothing will stop you from doing it. And VPN has different protocols, like proxies, and anyone can use it.


Title: Re: Is more regulation coming to online gambling?
Post by: Oshosondy on May 07, 2024, 09:44:50 AM
A banned site can always be opened via VPN and nothing will stop you from doing it. And VPN has different protocols, like proxies, and anyone can use it.
I do not see more regulations that will come than what I have seen today as some casinos and other gambling sites now want all their users to do KYC. If they do not get verified, there will not be withdrawal of any amount that they win. But there are many offshore  casinos that are not registered or licensed, having good customers reviews and has been existing since long time ago which make some gamblers in banned countries to join and enjoy gambling. Gambling is banned in China but China is among the top 3 countries that has the most gamblers in the world.


Title: Re: Is more regulation coming to online gambling?
Post by: Taskford on May 07, 2024, 09:53:51 AM
Yes I expect this to happen since gambling advertisement is rampantly goes anywhere. There's a lot of people trying to market their businesses on not proper channels which it can cause harm to people especially those young individual with saying something unrealistic claims for easy rich schemes if they play on particular casino. That's why I will not get surprised if there's sudden heavy changes will not be in favor to those casino who legitimately doing some good or responsible advertisement since for sure they will be included on the possible sanctions will happen by those casino doing those aggressive actions.

So maybe for this let see how government will take action towards this issue since if we could see them do something then its fine but hopefully they do the right decision and didn't do any bad judgement which they didn't think or study so well.


Title: Re: Is more regulation coming to online gambling?
Post by: retreat on May 07, 2024, 10:14:40 AM
Governments will do whatever is within their jurisdiction to regulate how online casinos can operate in their country. Whether it's with KYC obligations to users, tightening security and privacy, and various other regulations. And with the growing development of the online casino industry, this might be a reason for the government to add new regulations to online casino operations to prevent things that harm users or other problems. And this might limit the user's freedom in playing or various other aspects of the casino. This may have pros and cons, but the government has the right to do that and the casino industry must accept it.


Title: Re: Is more regulation coming to online gambling?
Post by: Hirose UK on May 07, 2024, 10:19:48 AM

Given the prevalence of online gambling and crypto casinos I think this might be a realistic development that could be coming. It makes me wonder what the future of gambling online with crypto will be then. Will casinos be forced to create their own slot and live games? And perhaps even bring workers abroad to run them without legal consequence? What do you think?
I don't see how this is going to be a problem for those of us living in countries where gambling is legal and these casinos operate. If the government target slot game providers, like Evolution Gaming and compels them to not grant access to their games on unlicensed platforms. The only people affected will be those who patronize these platforms. The only way I see that this would significantly affect game providers is if they have more number of gamblers playing their slot games at unlicenced the their licensed counterparts.
No one knows what the future of gambling will be like, but I sure that convenience will always be possible, various game providers may be able to develop much better by having operational permits to avoid ban.
It will never be certain because the future can only be guessed and hoped for, we will not be able to provide real and guaranteed conclusions before we can actually experience it ourselves.
However, it seems that what will be problem is that when gamblers access gambling sites but they are gamblers who live in countries with prohibitions on gambling activities, problems may occur.
Indirectly, when country has ban on gambling and many citizens of that country still carry out gambling activities, there is big possibility of ban that can be really suppressed by the government.
It just that for now everything is still working well and those who live in countries where gambling is prohibited can access gambling sites easily because of the use of VPN and this can stop tracking.


Title: Re: Is more regulation coming to online gambling?
Post by: Hatchy on May 07, 2024, 10:46:30 AM
A banned site can always be opened via VPN and nothing will stop you from doing it. And VPN has different protocols, like proxies, and anyone can use it.

Not very difficult but I see no reason why government would want to ban online casino as they literally cause no harm to the economy. These online casino operators are forced to comply to their rules just so they can operate in their country. So if government wish to ban any casinos, it would be only those that refused to comply. Besides like you said, some services on the Internet can always be accessed even after been banned by a country. But users will only use them at their own risk.

Given the prevalence of online gambling and crypto casinos I think this might be a realistic development that could be coming. It makes me wonder what the future of gambling online with crypto will be then. Will casinos be forced to create their own slot and live games? And perhaps even bring workers abroad to run them without legal consequence? What do you think?
If the developers of these games agrees to continue providing them for the online casino then there won't be any possible issue in the future. Except government start imposing restrictions on these developers on what casinos they should design for or host games with. Casinos will still need the developers for their games but they might be employed to work for them.


Title: Re: Is more regulation coming to online gambling?
Post by: AHOYBRAUSE on May 07, 2024, 10:57:01 AM
Well, this can always happen.
The problem is, governments see the ever growing interest in gambling and they feel like they also want to get a piece of the pie. That's exactly what happened several years ago in Germany.

They saw an increase and quickly made some kind of law that every bet has to pay a 5% tax, it's hilarious. So bacially you bet 100$ on 2.0 odds, now you only get 190 if you win. That's a huge difference over a certain number of bets made.
Later this was even implemented for poker, so now for example German players at pokerstars aren't even allowed to play certain games and also have to pay tax on ever pot won. So basically you pay double, rake and tax.

Rake these days is already hilariously high and hard to beat but taking another 5% on top just makes it useless to continue playing.
Wouldn't be surprised if other countries will follow this example in the near future.


Title: Re: Is more regulation coming to online gambling?
Post by: traderethereum on May 07, 2024, 11:09:58 AM
Yes, that will comes with the increasing popularity of online gambling. The governments wants to watch their people and wants to knows who often playing gambling and will makes more regulations to control their people.
That will happens too in the online crypto gambling because the governments thinks that they can gets more money from the tax that they applied to the gamblers. But we don't knows what and how they will do because it seems, the governments still search for that way.
Sooner or later, they will apply new regulation to online gambling and gamblers so we may thinks that will makes us feels can't playing gambling freely. But we should obey the regulations if we don't wants to breaks the regulations so we can playing gambling without any problems.


Title: Re: Is more regulation coming to online gambling?
Post by: aoluain on May 07, 2024, 11:11:28 AM
The biggest reason for regulating online gambling is to restrict and protect underage kids
from getting addicted.

An underage kid cannot walking into a casino or a bookmakers shop here and place a wager,
its illegal but accessing a casino on a smartphone is very easy for kids and very difficult
for the casinos to verify the age of the user other than some form of legal ID like drivers license
or Passport.

So yea I think it is inevitable that there will be more regulations which aim to protect the underage
but will affect everyone.


Title: Re: Is more regulation coming to online gambling?
Post by: Synchronice on May 07, 2024, 11:46:46 AM
Given the prevalence of online gambling and crypto casinos I think this might be a realistic development that could be coming. It makes me wonder what the future of gambling online with crypto will be then. Will casinos be forced to create their own slot and live games? And perhaps even bring workers abroad to run them without legal consequence? What do you think?
I don't understand your whole post. Any slots and live casino provider can provide game to casinos that have a license and these days it's very easy to acquire license, almost every crypto casino manages to get Curaçao or Costa Rica license. So, why do you think that casinos will be forced to create their own slot and live games? By the way, it's easy to create your own slot and many casinos have a variety choice of in-house games, including slots but it's very expensive to create a live casino because that requires tons of investment and doesn't worth if number of tables are pretty low.
The only regulation that comes to online gambling is only know your customer documents.


Title: Re: Is more regulation coming to online gambling?
Post by: Alphakilo on May 07, 2024, 12:50:46 PM
Given the prevalence of online gambling and crypto casinos I think this might be a realistic development that could be coming. It makes me wonder what the future of gambling online with crypto will be then. Will casinos be forced to create their own slot and live games? And perhaps even bring workers abroad to run them without legal consequence? What do you think?
I think you are late to the party. Casino do no have to be forced to create their own slot and live games. There are casinos that already have proprietary games. FortuneJack has,FortuneJack Roulette, FortuneJack Dice, and FortuneJack Blackjack. Stake has Stake Originals Slots, Stake Crash, and Stake Roulette. Crypto Games has CryptoGames Blackjack, CryptoGames Slots, and CryptoGames Roulette.

Did you know that they gladly did this because it comes with so many benefits. One of such benefit is that they'll have increase profit. Casino often have to pay fees in royalties for third-party games. This cuts their profit in half or thereabout. Having their own in house games makes them have 100% of the profit no sharing. Another advantage is that they have full control of their games and its features. They can go on to make customizations to the games any how they like.



Title: Re: Is more regulation coming to online gambling?
Post by: Rruchi man on May 07, 2024, 01:28:10 PM
It makes me wonder what the future of gambling online with crypto will be then. Will casinos be forced to create their own slot and live games?
There are game developers and providers who can develop games but do not have the capability to start and manage a casino. There are also people who have the capability to start and manage a casino but no ability to develop their own games.

These two sets of people go hand in hand and are functional because each other exists, although the number of casinos will be greater than the number of real casino game developers.

I do not think that there are many game developers and providers in the market, and if the new development is that casinos decide to start employing and personalizing game developers to produce games strictly for their own use, there may not be enough developers for other casinos to employ.

All casinos will not be able to create their own games.


Title: Re: Is more regulation coming to online gambling?
Post by: Jawhead999 on May 07, 2024, 01:44:23 PM
Casinos which already have license and ask KYC to comply with the regulations, I believe they're already safe. While the casinos which didn't have license and not asking KYC, they're in danger.

DNS block mostly happen to countries which gambling is illegal, that's why they block casino domain. It's quite tricky when the casino allow the country but the country didn't allow gambling.


Title: Re: Is more regulation coming to online gambling?
Post by: Porfirii on May 07, 2024, 01:59:34 PM
Not the kind of regulation you expected to find here, but in Spain the new Real Decreto 444/2024 (https://www.boe.es/eli/es/rd/2024/04/30/444/con) has just been published.

Among many other obligations for streamers and influencers, there are a few related to gambling advertising which have to do with underage viewers and restrictions outside night hours.

I don't know if there are similar rules also in other countries, but it seems quite a legal novelty to me, which could be copied in other jurisdictions too.



Title: Re: Is more regulation coming to online gambling?
Post by: Dave1 on May 07, 2024, 02:11:11 PM
Given the prevalence of online gambling and crypto casinos I think this might be a realistic development that could be coming. It makes me wonder what the future of gambling online with crypto will be then. Will casinos be forced to create their own slot and live games? And perhaps even bring workers abroad to run them without legal consequence? What do you think?

Nah, I don't think that casinos will be forced to create their own slot and live games. They're still going to ride on casino operations, used their license slot and live gates and I don't think that regulators will completely stop online gambling per se.

And for me, for a country to stop online gambling, it's either 100% stop or no continue with it, no middle ground whatsoever.

Or there could be local gaming providers to comply with local rules.


Title: Re: Is more regulation coming to online gambling?
Post by: Lucius on May 07, 2024, 02:12:37 PM
Gambling has existed for thousands of years and will exist as long as there are people - and the authorities always knew that people should be given "bread and games" in order to control them more easily. The only thing is how much of the cake the authorities want, and given that it is a very profitable business, I think they will always be able to agree on the terms.


Title: Re: Is more regulation coming to online gambling?
Post by: danherbias07 on May 07, 2024, 02:19:58 PM
I believe there will be upcoming regulations in the future.
The growth of the gambling industry is just way too fast and I bet most governments who legalized online gambling will probably want a piece of the pie so regulations will be the key if they want to squeeze some money out of them. This will lead to exemptions by paying up some money so that they can still promote their service or just keep on being played in one country.
This is not a question of being a legal provider of games anymore, in your example slots, it is about the greediness that will happen when the government sees that most money is circulating in gambling. That can't happen especially if they are not getting anything out of it.


Title: Re: Is more regulation coming to online gambling?
Post by: Eternad on May 07, 2024, 02:26:23 PM
no infractions are given to those playing at non-licensed casinos online and none to those operating them too.

To be honest, Do the government have a choice here? I mean can they track all their citizens on what website they are browsing at all time? Unless China is your government then it’s possible but for the other country especially 3rd world country government has now way to stop players on playing in online casino because everything is online.

There’s tons of online casino out there and there’s no way for them to determine whether their citizens is a player or not unless they request for KYC records. Besides the casino license almost cover the legality aspect of most country that includes with their scope.


Title: Re: Is more regulation coming to online gambling?
Post by: YOSHIE on May 07, 2024, 02:29:14 PM
Is more regulation coming to online gambling?
Maybe, but the gambling industry continues as usual, I don't think it will affect its users in some rule changes.
My understanding is that the world economy is currently deteriorating, trade is bad, businesses are bankrupt, raw materials are expensive and so on, it seems that the gambling industry is currently the best solution to boost the global economy.

I think the government's only way to grow the economy is by implementing strict regulations/taxation on the gambling industry, in the future there may be no online gambling sites that can escape taxation, Thus, it is natural that online casinos will make regulations that may not be burdensome for the gambling industry, perhaps in the future users will face inevitable gambling taxes, my understanding is that this is the case in terms of future gambling regulations.


Title: Re: Is more regulation coming to online gambling?
Post by: pinggoki on May 07, 2024, 02:39:38 PM
Gambling has existed for thousands of years and will exist as long as there are people - and the authorities always knew that people should be given "bread and games" in order to control them more easily. The only thing is how much of the cake the authorities want, and given that it is a very profitable business, I think they will always be able to agree on the terms.
I agree with that, I think that they're going to get more rampant now more than ever because there's more streamers that are promoting gambling websites in my country and I don't think that the government would ever want their "cake" or piece of the gambling pie to be too low so I'm sure that they're making a move already about the taxation and regulations.

They've already done this during the pandemic which I applaud because there's no way to make a lot of money at that time and online cockfighting is becoming a hobby for many people at that time because they're stagnating in their house and they want something to do and it just so happens that gambling has been a thing that popped up and they decided that it's worth the risk and then the government got the wind that it's becoming a problem and they've immediately banned those websites to prevent people from using the cash injections they receive from the government to gamble their money away on those online cockfights.


Title: Re: Is more regulation coming to online gambling?
Post by: 0t3p0t on May 07, 2024, 03:06:26 PM
As long as they are a registered platform then they are all good other than that may subject to banning and that is what currently our government is doing to unregistered gambling platforms. But gambling ads around social media is rampant I think that should also be regulated as minors could see it that may cause them to get into it without the proper guidance of their guardians or even violate the law.


Title: Re: Is more regulation coming to online gambling?
Post by: Kavelj22 on May 07, 2024, 03:15:08 PM
In addition to the point that Op touched on, which I share his position on, is sufficient reason to impose new regulations on the gambling industry sector in any country willing to grant activity licenses to casinos, I would like to add another point that is much important, which is the great development that the artificial intelligence sector is having actually, like never before. It is possible to determine the areas of his activity that now include everything.
Gambling service provider companies may use artificial intelligence software in a way that may not be consistent with the conditions agreed upon in the terms of activity licenses. The authorities granting activity licenses must take into account the development taking place and keep pace with it, because the results may be disastrous for users and for the state’s interests in collecting the necessary taxes as well.

Unfortunately, there are not many discussions about the sector’s regulations or how to develop them accordingly.


Title: Re: Is more regulation coming to online gambling?
Post by: Crypt0Gore on May 07, 2024, 03:25:42 PM
Regulated online casinos will only guarantee you one thing, safety, because they have reputations that they have worked so hard to build, all you all seeking for a non regulated casinos don't know what you are talking about.

A non regulated casinos have every reason to deal with you anyhow, they can decide to steal from you and still ban you, I won't dare gamble on a casino thats not regulated and those casinos that made it big are all regulated, that should tell you something.

If your online casino is not regulated it is running illegally, in the real world some people visit local casinos, they don't care about their identity, but when it comes to online casinos everyone want to hide, like what are they hiding from?

Either new or old regulation on all online casinos I don't have a problem with this, i use less than thirty dollars to gamble so what could go wrong? Unless you have something you are hiding, I don't see any reason why anyone will think that this is a bad idea.


Title: Re: Is more regulation coming to online gambling?
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on May 07, 2024, 05:30:05 PM
Governments will do whatever is within their jurisdiction to regulate how online casinos can operate in their country. Whether it's with KYC obligations to users, tightening security and privacy, and various other regulations. And with the growing development of the online casino industry, this might be a reason for the government to add new regulations to online casino operations to prevent things that harm users or other problems. And this might limit the user's freedom in playing or various other aspects of the casino. This may have pros and cons, but the government has the right to do that and the casino industry must accept it.

What more new regulations would or should be added to the online casino apart from the already existing KYC requirements that have been deemed necessary for every casino to implement?

For some other countries that still allow their casino to operate without KYC needed, the government of those countries cannot interfere unless they block the site from working in their own country, and even if they do, some citizens in that country can still use VPN browsers to access the casino, just like someone already stated it. 

I don't see any more regulations coming aboard; that can be worse than KYC, where someone has to give away their secret personal information. 


Title: Re: Is more regulation coming to online gambling?
Post by: iv4n on May 07, 2024, 05:36:28 PM
Will casinos be forced to create their own slot and live games? And perhaps even bring workers abroad to run them without legal consequence? What do you think?

Casinos will never be forced to make their own games, it is an option that exists, some casinos can opt for if they want to have their own original games, which is often the case with crypto casinos. I doubt any casino will "import" workers for any casino jobs, I don't see why any casino would.

Regarding the title, I think that some new laws will come, or some old ones will be strengthened in some way. In any case, it will not affect all online casinos, it will all depend on many factors: where the casino is registered, in which countries it operates, what games it offers... and as always, the bigger a casino is and in more countries they wish to operate legally they will have to obey some rules.

I guess it's hard to predict what regulations are coming, that's something we'll have to wait and see what happens. Everyone has their own opinion, but I believe there will be surprises.


Title: Re: Is more regulation coming to online gambling?
Post by: alani123 on May 07, 2024, 07:04:39 PM
The biggest reason for regulating online gambling is to restrict and protect underage kids
from getting addicted.

An underage kid cannot walking into a casino or a bookmakers shop here and place a wager,
its illegal but accessing a casino on a smartphone is very easy for kids and very difficult
for the casinos to verify the age of the user other than some form of legal ID like drivers license
or Passport.

So yea I think it is inevitable that there will be more regulations which aim to protect the underage
but will affect everyone.
Allowing more regulation to take place under the premise of minor protection might sound like a good cause, but for online gambling it might be a major setback.
How can we implement limitations that are actually going to work? The only method I can think of is pre-emtive live KYC and perhaps also live verification before gambling sessions. Do we want and need this only to prevent minors from playing? It would be very easy to track one's activity also and for governments as well to snoop on what people do.

For me, I'd rather accept that there's some personal responsibility with each parent to teach but also monitor their children than have to go through hell each time I'd like to toss away a few cents.


Title: Re: Is more regulation coming to online gambling?
Post by: stomachgrowls on May 07, 2024, 08:25:07 PM
As long as they are a registered platform then they are all good other than that may subject to banning and that is what currently our government is doing to unregistered gambling platforms. But gambling ads around social media is rampant I think that should also be regulated as minors could see it that may cause them to get into it without the proper guidance of their guardians or even violate the law.
Would really be that so hard for those social media platforms on having that entire ban considering that one of their main sources of income or revenue is gaining from those ads on which its normal that they would really be that allowing it but of course there would really be those terms and conditions or prohibitions that had been set but still not wont really be enough on totally not for kids or minors to see those ads and this is why its something that inevitable for them to see those things. As for regulation then each country does have their own set of rules whether they would be allowing gambling or would really be totally be banning it.
For those who are unregistered or doesnt have the license then it would really be considered to be colurom. We cant really be able to deny that dealing with them doesnt really give out that kind of
security for its users or gamblers which means that licenses and regulation does have that kind of pros too.


Title: Re: Is more regulation coming to online gambling?
Post by: Ojima-ojo on May 07, 2024, 08:29:38 PM

Given the prevalence of online gambling and crypto casinos I think this might be a realistic development that could be coming. It makes me wonder what the future of gambling online with crypto will be then. Will casinos be forced to create their own slot and live games? And perhaps even bring workers abroad to run them without legal consequence? What do you think?
I don't see how this is going to be a problem for those of us living in countries where gambling is legal and these casinos operate. If the government target slot game providers, like Evolution Gaming and compels them to not grant access to their games on unlicensed platforms. The only people affected will be those who patronize these platforms. The only way I see that this would significantly affect game providers is if they have more number of gamblers playing their slot games at unlicenced the their licensed counterparts.
Definitely of the slot game is the most popular and highest played game by gambler's it will definitely reduce the revenue of the casino's and also affects gambler's since they will not be having their favorites game's due to regulations.


But I believe this is going to be an unrealistic expectations from countries that have legal framework for gambling and none of the players or casinos will want to face such troubles that is why the government will definitely not pay attention to regulating just a single game out of the rest.


Title: Re: Is more regulation coming to online gambling?
Post by: Slow death on May 07, 2024, 08:42:27 PM
Well, when we look at the case of physical casinos for example, we realize that they are operating in compliance with many laws imposed by governments. Those who look at physical casinos only in terms of beauty and the games offered cannot imagine how many points of law physical casinos are obliged to comply with and yet physical casinos are complying and operating normally. Physical casinos are obliged to provide reports on the condition and operation of slot machines and other games of chance that the physical casino offers. physical casinos are subject to periodic inspections by governments

Physical casinos are required to show the state of finances (account report) annually to the governments where the physical casino is located. land-based casinos pay taxes, land-based casinos are obliged to enter into an employment contract with casino employees and respect the country's employment laws. So when we see that governments are tough on land-based casinos, we can easily predict that this toughness will also expand to online casinos. It is inevitable that this happens.


Title: Re: Is more regulation coming to online gambling?
Post by: uneng on May 07, 2024, 09:13:04 PM
It makes me wonder what the future of gambling online with crypto will be then. Will casinos be forced to create their own slot and live games? And perhaps even bring workers abroad to run them without legal consequence? What do you think?
If such regulations are enforced, I guess casinos will just find alternative games to offer to the public, which are less complex to be developed. Something like the original games popular platforms have disponible. It's just too expensive for casinos to develop their own exclusive slots games on the complexity level of slot machines games provided by third party companies for a wide range of platforms.

And in fact, to not offer these games shouldn't be the end of the world for casinos, because the most popular category of gambling these days is sports betting. So that is what casinos are really focused in offering to the public nowadays, while everything else is just secondary.


Title: Re: Is more regulation coming to online gambling?
Post by: Hispo on May 07, 2024, 09:35:17 PM
As long as they are a registered platform then they are all good other than that may subject to banning and that is what currently our government is doing to unregistered gambling platforms. But gambling ads around social media is rampant I think that should also be regulated as minors could see it that may cause them to get into it without the proper guidance of their guardians or even violate the law.

Keeping in mind most of the advertisement being done today is targeted, then I assume those services which sell advertisement space, like Google Ads, are pretty aware of the age of the targeted public for certain products.
Actually, when you create a Google account, one of the first things which are asked to you about yourself if your age and your gender, that is supposed to be enough for Google and other big technology companies to know whether you are suitable to receive ads of gambling, alcohol or even adult content.

If there was something to worry about when we talk on the issue of children and teens seeing and partaking on gambling, I would rather point out to streamers on YouTube and Twitch. There are also many games which have those mechanics called "loot boxes", which is softcore gambling in the eyes of many.


Title: Re: Is more regulation coming to online gambling?
Post by: OgNasty on May 07, 2024, 09:37:29 PM
Obviously with the growth in online gambling more regulation isn't far behind.  There are entire industries that pop up around the regulation of new successful things...  I don't necessarily think that has to be a bad thing though.  Maybe if you don't like gambling, but if you are ok with the moral issues of gambling then I think more regulation will lead to more acceptance into our typical daily lives.  For example, I think it's only a matter of time before everyone can gamble on the phones on any sporting event.  They just have to move slow to make sure all their ducks are in a row, but it's coming for sure.


Title: Re: Is more regulation coming to online gambling?
Post by: Wexnident on May 07, 2024, 09:37:34 PM
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Wouldn't the same issue of casinos operating in legal countries still be a problem? But for unlicensed ones, rather odd how providers don't already have that rule or agreement of theirs that requires a casino to at least have a license to operate a business online. Or do they just in general give it out and just let the casinos do the geoblocking for countries where gambling isn't allowed?

I also highly doubt casinos making their own games. They can make a couple few, but all of them? Nah. I reckon they'd have to spend too much time and money for that effort when there's already ready made ones in the market.  
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Allowing more regulation to take place under the premise of minor protection might sound like a good cause, but for online gambling it might be a major setback.
How can we implement limitations that are actually going to work? The only method I can think of is pre-emtive live KYC and perhaps also live verification before gambling sessions. Do we want and need this only to prevent minors from playing? It would be very easy to track one's activity also and for governments as well to snoop on what people do.

For me, I'd rather accept that there's some personal responsibility with each parent to teach but also monitor their children than have to go through hell each time I'd like to toss away a few cents.
Yea there's no real easy way to get around confirming if someone is a minor or not. If in mobile phones or something with a fingerprint scanner though, they may use the native fingerprint info of the phone to determine whether someone playing is the parent themselves or just a child. But then again, it's pretty limited to mobile, I don't think people are going to buy an external finger print scanner just to play in a casino lol.


Title: Re: Is more regulation coming to online gambling?
Post by: passwordnow on May 07, 2024, 09:52:09 PM
Given the prevalence of online gambling and crypto casinos I think this might be a realistic development that could be coming. It makes me wonder what the future of gambling online with crypto will be then.
With all of the regulation that's happening in the circle of crypto, we can see from exchanges, to mixers and soon, the casinos aren't going to be spared with that. That's why many crypto casinos today are too strict with the implementation of KYC because it's not only about the providers but mainly from the government to track and avoid necessary issues that relates to money laundering. So, they're pressing everything coming from the providers, to the casino itself and then it's passed on to the users that don't really have a say to these matters.

Will casinos be forced to create their own slot and live games? And perhaps even bring workers abroad to run them without legal consequence? What do you think?
Much better if they make their own games and develop it but I guess there are some legal implications about it. And about recruiting people bringing it to them, it's a different matter to get addressed about labor issues or working visa grants which is definitely they'd do it legally.


Title: Re: Is more regulation coming to online gambling?
Post by: redsun114 on May 08, 2024, 08:41:33 AM
what do you think?
Online casinos are very difficult to ban in any country in the world unless you are in China and you are not affected by a Chinese Firewall. It is also probably in North Korea, where they have their own Internet consisting of several sites. In the whole other world, no matter how the governments of countries try to ban something, they do not succeed. A banned site can always be opened via VPN and nothing will stop you from doing it. And VPN has different protocols, like proxies, and anyone can use it.
Very difficult to ban huh? No wonder why I always saw a user who are looking for an alternative because the ones they are using are not working anymore. China is a strict country not on almost any thing, not only in gambling but this country is not alone to ban all sorts of gambling.

I heard a couple of them already and there is a reason for that. The main one would be is when the number of addicts are now uncontrollable. Government has the rights to do what they can but it's just that people are sometimes hard-headed to not obey it. I won't feel sorry if they get caught out and punished severely but this act as a warning for others to not follow.


Title: Re: Is more regulation coming to online gambling?
Post by: alani123 on May 08, 2024, 08:54:47 AM
Online casinos are very difficult to ban in any country in the world unless you are in China and you are not affected by a Chinese Firewall. It is also probably in North Korea, where they have their own Internet consisting of several sites. In the whole other world, no matter how the governments of countries try to ban something, they do not succeed. A banned site can always be opened via VPN and nothing will stop you from doing it. And VPN has different protocols, like proxies, and anyone can use it.
Very difficult to ban huh? No wonder why I always saw a user who are looking for an alternative because the ones they are using are not working anymore. China is a strict country not on almost any thing, not only in gambling but this country is not alone to ban all sorts of gambling.
Well it's true that if a country wants to be draconian against online enterprises they can very well be. For instance, in most developed countries it's easy to play in an online casino that would be considered non-licensed by local laws just by buying crypto and some DNS change. But think about New York for example. New Yorkers have it very hard for them as they have little to no access to legal crypto exchanges. If they have to rely on peer to peer sales that are unreliable and expensive just to load up their casino ballance they might as well succumb to the pressure and only play on whatever licensed app can be offered in their locality.

I assume the same applies for China as well as many other countries where access to crypto purchases for retail investors is very restricted. Europe could be like that at the turn of a switch as well. And if that happens, there's little to no infrastructure to support the purchase of crypto at market prices for individuals. So especially for online casinos I don't think there's going to be a cyberpunk future. If a country wants to restrict access to them regardless of collateral damage they can do it by cutting off the funding methods.


Title: Re: Is more regulation coming to online gambling?
Post by: topbitcoin on May 08, 2024, 11:30:21 AM
In my country, gambling activities are illegal and are often considered a negative activity by most people. However, this still does not limit people from gambling and betting, where many people are trapped in a cycle of illegal and irresponsible gambling. Even gambling activities have become a real problem for the country and most of the people in my country. Because gambling is illegal, the state does not gain any profits from the gambling activities that people often engage in. In this case, the state is greatly disadvantaged because the money that should be circulating to advance the economy of the lower classes, every day. money just flows through gambling sites.

However, when the government tries to legalize gambling, it aims to provide more freedom to regulate, control and limit gambling activities that are often carried out by the public. This is quite difficult to do, because it is clear that this is very contrary to the rules, norms, culture and religion that exist in my country. In this case, the government is very confused because illegal gambling activities are very difficult to eradicate.


Title: Re: Is more regulation coming to online gambling?
Post by: ethereumhunter on May 08, 2024, 02:14:33 PM
Well it's true that if a country wants to be draconian against online enterprises they can very well be. For instance, in most developed countries it's easy to play in an online casino that would be considered non-licensed by local laws just by buying crypto and some DNS change. But think about New York for example. New Yorkers have it very hard for them as they have little to no access to legal crypto exchanges. If they have to rely on peer to peer sales that are unreliable and expensive just to load up their casino ballance they might as well succumb to the pressure and only play on whatever licensed app can be offered in their locality.

I assume the same applies for China as well as many other countries where access to crypto purchases for retail investors is very restricted. Europe could be like that at the turn of a switch as well. And if that happens, there's little to no infrastructure to support the purchase of crypto at market prices for individuals. So especially for online casinos I don't think there's going to be a cyberpunk future. If a country wants to restrict access to them regardless of collateral damage they can do it by cutting off the funding methods.
People that have difficulty to access online gambling games will find a way to visits that site and maybe they will use VPN besides change their DNS. But for those who can't use kripto to playing gambling, they can use fiat money in the gambling application that's legal for their country. They can also search for local casino so they can playing gambling without visiting on the online casino.  They needs to follow the regulation and they don't have to breaks the rules because that can makes them in a trouble.

People can access crypto easily if they lived in a country that have a strict regulations about crypto. People must search for the way to access crypto and if they wants to invests in crypto, they must knows about the rules before they decides. We don't knows if there are no future for people who lived in that country because maybe there will be a change in the future which allows their people to access crypto easily. That will needs to waits for the time until their government change their regulations about crypto and until that time, their people can only waits.


Title: Re: Is more regulation coming to online gambling?
Post by: Negotiation on May 09, 2024, 03:31:29 AM
Gambling is not legal in many countries of the world they think it is illegal, and if it is not legalized, no one will be able to control it to increase the trend of online gambling. Online gambling is completely anonymous and completely out of government control. In countries where gambling is legal the government of that country can regulate gambling. If controlled by the government, no one can do any illegal activity they will be protected by law. The law and order members of the country are ready to perform their duties with utmost sincerity and devotion to uphold the freedom they will work to ensure public safety.