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CEX and DEX are two different beasts when it comes to rewarding users. But which one actually offers more goodies??

CEX:

- Trading fees, discounts, and loyalty programs
- Faster transactions and higher liquidity

DEX:

- Token incentives, governance participation, and community love
- Decentralization, security, and community control

Did I miss anything? You can add more. But Do you prefer the traditional approach of CEX or the community-driven vibes of DEX? Let's talk.

CEX give better rates, while DEX is good for increase your privacy and avoid unnecessary drama that might happen in CEX.

I believe you're talking about swaps, swaps isn't DEX.

It's weird how those swap platforms using many buzzwords like governance participation, it's more like a centralization since "big users" have a power to vote than Average Joe. The only true DEX that I know so far is Bisq.

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Move this thread to Service Discussion, it's more suitable in there.

CEX:

- Better liquidity and better bang for the buck in general(most of the time)
- Risks of exchange hacks
- Risks of insolvencies
- KYC


DEX:

- airdrop opportunities, depending on the DEX
- non-custodial, doesn't need to deposit money onto a platform
- risks of exploits
- no KYC


Personally, I use DEXs because I don't like submitting AML/KYC unnecessarily.

With DEX, it seems that every move you do is going to get you fees. As for the CEX, you can send fund transfer to the other users of the same platform without having to worry about fees because they have a feature of off chain transactions. And what we don't like with the cexes is the typical KYC, if there are no-kyc cex as of this time. You can probably count them with your figures anymore but as for the dexes, you don't have to worry about that but if it's about security of their platform, they're always being targeted by the hackers.

If there is an option to use CEX without AML/KYC, it is definitely better. DEX using a decentralized blockchain is slower and has higher fees than CEX, and some prefer compromise solutions such as using Layer2 or central networks with low fees like BSC, but in any case, CEX without AML/KYC is better and Do not trust them with large amounts.

Despite having higher fees and even if there are no discounts and loyalty programs, DExes will probably be more supported by users if only transactions are faster and liquidity higher. It's probably enough for them to be guaranteed of safety of their funds and given absolute control over them for users to forget about CExes. Unfortunately, however, inconvenience is a priority to users and CExes are the ones that offer it.

As for me, as much as I'm in support of DExes, the low liquidity which results to lower offers is indeed discouraging.

The exchange which rewards you by not selling our your data and not fractional-reserving your coins to the point where they go bust is the most rewarding platform. Who cares about the rates? How much are you even going to make from the exchange rewards anyway? They are negligible unless you already have millions of dollars, in which case why even bother?

I agree. Exchanges rewards as negligible.

The only way to make good money in exchange rewards is by using referral links if you own a very popular website/youtube channel/ twitter, etc etc...

Other than that, you shoudn't decide to use CEX /  DEX based on those rewards.

And mk4 is right, you might get a lot of money in airdrops if you use new DEX services in some blockchains.

In centralized exchanges you have anything but control, the exchange is the one in control of whatever you deposit into their platform, and your funds can even be confiscated at anytime, what they even do with the data you submit to them is out of your control. I respect your opinion of choosing centralized exchanges, but i disagree with you on your point on control.

It depends on your priorities and preferences for rewards. Privacy is the greatest reward you can get on DEX since they don’t have KYC and you have full control on your coins.

However, CEX is in advantage in almost all aspect of rewarding users since they have the cheapest fee, lots of tournaments/giveaways and most importantly they offer a great price on buying/selling coins and tokens.

CEX is still the dominant between the 2 so far because they have a better rewarding system for users.

True, price also differs and cex is more comfortable to use. Some folks here are talking about privacy regarding KYC. Isn't there a law that guides that?

This buttresses some users here point about cex giving more rewards, I'm certain you can't get rewarded for downloading a phantom or a keplr wallet but you just mentioned you could for the cex you stated.. I feel both can coexist and we can make the best from both in maximizing profits and getting user satisfaction..

Isn't there a law that guides what? Centralized exchanges have to comply with aml and kyc laws, so all of their customers must submit their data and pass kyc before they can trade on their platform. However, in true decentralized exchanges, you do not have to submit your data before you can trade, so you maintain your privacy when you use them.

In general, if CEXes do not deal with cash deposits, they do not need to request KYC, as dealing with cash requires creating a bank account, and to create this account, it is necessary to comply with KYC/AML.
If exchange does not deal with cash, it can work from countries that do not have legislation regarding cryptocurrencies and ban any country that has restrictions on dealing in cryptocurrencies (while allowing them to use the service via a VPN), but if governments are serious about implementing the legislation, they may be pursued on charges of money laundering.

If we are to go by votes, people make use of the centralized exchanges more often than the decentralized ones, in which i believe that one of the reasons why they have seen this as being affordable to use was because of their lower transaction fees, but since many are not more engaged with the use of a decentralized exchange, we can wait to see how this government clampdown is going to help in driving traders and other bitcoin investors into using a decentralized exchanges, there we could gather experience and move further in making their comparison on which is better.

The government is not closing down centralized exchanges, they do not like to close services that comply with aml and kyc laws, and if they know all the traders who use such services and can have their data on their desk, then they are fine with that. The U.S government will only charge an exchange if they fail to comply with aml and kyc laws or if they do not have a strong kyc procedure, but apart from that, their full focus is on BTC privacy solutions.

They will not do that. There are already exchanges that provide customer lists and cooperate with the authorities. This cooperation contributes to increasing tax revenues, and by banning these services, the tax rate will decrease significantly. a mass ban of centralized exchanges will make Bitcoin down, Monero price up, and 99% of cryptocurrencies will disappear.

I understand your respective pints concerning the government approach on exchanges, they may not really want to close them down because they realized from them through regulations on the payment on tax, but still yet, government have been dealing hardly on them because they believe that they can require from them any information or regulation needed to implement or take for their open purpose, we can use binance exchange as an example and the US government, they attack them as well as bitcoin users and miners in the US and same applies to few other countries.

Take note that the charges against binance and other centralized exchanges has nothing to do with BTC in itself. Binance was charged for non compliance of U.S aml laws, violating sanctions and unlicensed money transmitting, it is obvious they were guilty of all this and that is why they pleaded guilty and agreed to pay billions in settlement. The point is this, as long as centralized exchanges comply with the laws of regulators, which most of them do, the government is fine with them.

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please elaborate, i'm curious

For someone who often uses crypto, of course between cex and dex is a complement, I realise that any hype coin comes from phase 1/early. There are 2 oppositions between the 2 market segments, between slippage (dex exchange fees are higher even though it is decentralised without identity) while kyc for cex by not being charged network fees every time you exchange with other assets. The main point is that dex has a lot of good quality and long-standing reputation in each chain. One thing I like is that dex has more opportunities to list new projects and can buy wisely according to each person's fundamental analysis, because there are also devs who do not inject liquidity for the continuity of trading and let non-officials :( . As for cex I prefer to trade from the profit from dex then send it. or I used to monitor new listings also in some cex if I still keep the coins I have from the beginning. I think the market for crypto is getting better every year because more and more dex and cex are popping up, but I still choose with the best visitors and ratings that have been tested.

I use CEX more than DEX, and the reason is obvious. I don't think the government will clamp down on exchanges that comply with AML laws and are compliant. When it comes to bonuses, I know most platforms offer decent rewards upon registration - Binance, Bybit, Bitget ($15), and other rewards from tasks and competitions. You won't get that from DEX. However, on DEX, once you interact with the ecosystem and stake, you might receive an airdrop, as seen with JUP, STRK, and others. As a crypto user, I suggest being flexible to these options...

Swap is a function, a feature. A DEx is a service, a platform. A swap isn't a function or feature that is exclusively provided by decentralized services or exchanges. You can do swaps even on centralized exchanges. You can also do swaps on services falsely claiming or marketed to be decentralized.

I guess this is the more important point to consider. Just because it is a swap platform doesn't automatically mean it is already a decentralized exchange. And just because it promotes itself as a decentralized exchange doesn't necessarily mean it is truly decentralized. A mere label doesn't mean anything.

CEX is better for you if you want to get the most out of your crypto whenever you want to sell because they can do a trade as close to the current price as possible, that's probably the only advantage of CEX in my opinion because there's not a lot of advantages to it not to mention that it's a not your keys, not your coins when it comes to CEX so in the cases of attacks on an exchange, you might be risking a your money storing it there. Some might say that P2P can be an advantage but I doubt it, you can do P2P here in the forum.

If an exchange is 100% decentralized, down to their servers, it will not matter if the government wants to clamp down on non-compliant platforms as they are off the grid. But we have very little, if any truly decentralized exchange and many centralized ones claiming not to be. Being a crypto user worried about privacy, it is a struggle joggling your options to pick the right option that gives a balance on privacy, service and liquidity.

The exchange bonuses and rewards are usually just one time payments and are so small they should not influence anyone's decision. You can create a random account with random details and claim them, not to use the exchange again.

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That's not the only advantage of CEX of DEX. I am not supporting CEX in this debate but I'm trying to prove that there are other advantages of CEX of DEX apart from selling coins near market price.

• Have you considered the user interface of both and see that CEXs are a way better.
• How about internal feeless transfers.
• Non technicality of usage
• Security of the exchange. This might be confusing, but a DEX  which do not have many developers working on it is a menace.
• I just want both to co-exist in order to get the government distracted.

The fact that cex ask for kyc is a no go area for me. I don't care about whatever benefit or incentives that's being given at the cex I don't give just like cex. Anything that will expose my data to a third party I will not get myself involved in it. I take my privacy very seriously, what's the essence of you giving me little incentives for loyalty when you are making far more from me. I will go with Dex at anytime, I just prefer being anonymous, whatever service fee that's charged I will pay it, and have rest of mind, knowing fully well that my privacy is intact. I don't want to start panicking tomorrow when there is a clamp down on those cex. Nobody knows what might come up in the future, the best way to avoid any unexpected events is to stay off the radar. Dex it is for me incentives or no incentives.

i'm even more confused. what is it in the op that makes you say he's not talking about dexes? please explain to me the relation between governance, token incentives and the act of swapping tokens?
and BISQ is the only DEX you know of? wtf?
i don't know, pancakeswap, uniswap, sushiswap and all exchanges found on chain are dexes. that's the idea of a dex my friend.

this place is a joke, you guys use words you don't understand and the worst part is you say things with such confidence that others trust you. ffs how did you get to be legendary with such stupid takes?

p.s: your defihition of swap and dex are correct though. the swap is the feature and the dex is the p2p place where you do the swap... but again what does that have to do with the op?

Apparently, I'm responding to you, not the OP.

I'm not a technical expert, but I'm pretty sure that "all exchanges found on chain are dexes" is a very poor oversimplification. That's a very wrong idea of a DEx, my friend.

In the first place, those swap platforms that you're talking about may even be built on a centralized blockchain. That alone is enough to question their decentralized label. Not to mention that these so-called decentralized services have single points of failure resulting to successful hacks. Bitcoin hasn't been hacked simply because there isn't a single point of failure, because it's truly decentralized.

Moreover, how much power does Uniswap Labs have, for example, or the Sushi team? How is it possible that a governing body of a so-called decentralized service ask hack victims to send tickets to a supposed decentralized exchange's official social media account?

you're right you're not a technical expert lmao.
seriously bro, stop. you're just posting nonsense at this point.

a dex built on a centralized chain (i don't wanna know what your definition of that is) is still a dex lol.
points of failure? what the f... does that have to do with them being dexes?
as for the last part of your post, sorry but maybe you swapped ( ;D) words in there in order to look smart but that's a huge fail. i didn't understand any of it, sorry.

go tell maki that sushi is not a dex, go tell hayden that uni is not a dex... rofl. omg, this is hilarious. i'm sure you don't even know who those guys are. google them now.

Can't mods delete posts like these seriously? i understand everyone here is trying to increase their post count and they will post any kind of nonsense to do that but come on, mods should know better. this is a terrible look for this place.

I think that it's individual. CEX reward you with many different products but takes away your privacy while DEX rewards you with privacy but doesn't offer you as many products as CEX can and also doesn't offer as high leverage as CEX offers according to my knowledge.

CEXs are also very individual. For example, what you'll see on Binance mightn't be available on Coinbase, OKX or somewhere else. On CEX, you have many choice to make money, by spot trading, futures, stacking, investing, cloud mining and etc... DEXs don't offer many of these but as I said, their benefit is privacy and for many people, it's a huge benefit that outweighs other negative effects.

If we go by the way of threats from government's regulations on centralized exchanges and how these exchanges can be hacked or reveal our private information, we may not want to use a centralized exchange because they never have the privilege of giving us the private keys to our bitcoin with them and that is why we call them custodial wallets, but many don't confide much trust in some of the decentralized exchange and will think of loosing their asset at anytime, therefore settle for centralized exchange, also, some DEX make selection of the coins they support unlike the CEX which comprises of as many s possible altcoins, also, we may have to make use of Tor or VPN is connecting to some DEX while CEX may not require for this.

You're right about those parts especially with the better UI for users, that's going to be expected, they're a billion dollar company, they can't afford to look stupid in their user interface no matter what platform that they're present, they need to have a responsive UI and at the same time make sure that they're not going to be left behind from other CEX. Maybe ease of use can be an advantage or a pro with CEX but most of the time, DEX is easily understandable and you get used to it so easily anyway. Now that you think about messing with the government, I incline to agree with you, there's no way that I want the government to be getting their hands on DEXs, coexistence is a big word though, CEX and DEX are to each of their own in my opinion.

People were too used to centralized exchanges because they accommodates for varieties of altcoins and comprises of many of them which can be trusted and the likes of the shitcoins which cannot be trusted, people are too used to a platform whereby they can have a number of selections to make as their choices while deciding for a cryptocurrency to invest on, aside this, they believed that these centralized exchanges also have a number of coins in which they can quickly invest and  make fast return on, while some make use of CEX for trading purpose only.

I don’t really need to trade a million different shitcoins. I won’t put my privacy and security at risk by using KYC exchanges for something I rarely ever need. Decentralized exchanges are much better because they don’t require any personal information.

For swapping between crypto and fiat, the user experience is not the greatest when using something like Bisq. DEXs like Uniswap are far more user friendly and have billions of dollars in TVL, so liquidity shouldn’t be an issue. Becoming a liquidity provider is one of the most interest aspects of these DEXs. You can earn a really decent income from the APYs offered for providing liquidity. One of the innovations of DEXs is the voting escrow model where you can earn significant rewards by actively participating in their governance.