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The WBC organization has ordered Devin Haney to defend his title against Sandor Martin, but the question is he ready to get back in the ring against the dangerous Sandor Martin, or Devin Haney and his promoter will prefer to  give Sandor a step aside fee because they want a unification fight on other champions on the 140

It remains to be seen if Haney and his promoter, Eddie Hearn, will attempt to delay the fight against Martin by giving him a step aside or asking the WBC for an exemption by setting up a unification match against one of the other three champions at 140.

Source: Devin Haney Ordered To Face Sandor Martin, Big Decisions Ahead - Boxing News 24 (https://www.boxingnews24.com/2024/05/devin-haney-ordered-to-face-sandor-martin-big-decisions-ahead/)

The purse bid is on June 17, and based on Sandor Martin's statement, he will not likely accept the set-aside fee; Sandor is a big threat to Haney's future. If you remember, Sandor Martin retired Mikey Garcia and almost beat Teofimo Lopez.

I will update this thread for development and the date of the fight, but I'm certain this fight will happen.

I think Haney will be able to regain himself here. I don't see his opponent to be dangerous to be honest because he has a low KO rate.

based on https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/578364... out of 42 wins, he only have 15 KO, and he has 3 losses already. So I believe this fighter is not really a threat to Haney, this might look like a tune up fight for Haney to get back in the game, but he is not the same fighter anymore as he was already beaten by Ryan Garcia.

He may have a low knock-out rate, but the guy can box and is very sleek he almost beat Teofimo Lopez if he had not rallied in the latter rounds the fight ended in a split decision, he can beat Sandor but he will have a tough task doing this because part of his resume is a fight against Mickey Garcia which I already mentioned, I think this is a good test for Haney if he can pass Sandor who is a worthy opponent then Haney is back on the track, those beatings coming from Ryan will take a toil for a long time if he can knock out Sandor then he is really back and can move on with that harrowing experience.

I believe he is a threat and a very challenging opponent he is a technical fighter who can hurt his opponent but let's see if Hearns will do something to avoid Sandor; Sandor can upset Haney, and this is not a profitable fight for Hearns, some people may see it as a tune fight for Haney, but there's a risk involved if it's coming from an experienced fighter like Sandor.

While no one is going to have issues with Haney coming back as quickly as possible, he might just fail again. With the kind of beating he received from Ryan, the date is just too short of a preparation not just for his recovery but in preparing for Sandor. Haney is too eager to get back to show the world he is still the super LW champ.

But is there a talk about Haney winning this fight against Sandor will make him earn a rematch against Garcia?

Sandor by UD

I will not be surprised if Sandor pulls an upset here, he knows that Haney has been destroyed and his confidence is not yet 100% I have seen Sandor taking big punches from Lopez, and he can take it, and we all know that Teofimo is a hard puncher and besides Sandor is very hungry after that disappointing loss to Tefimo via split decision not good for Haney's cause, there are lighter fighters but since it's mandatory Haney should prepare hard for this fight.

Well I guess I trust your judgement on this as you have followed this boxer already. I'm just merely basing on Sandor's boxing record and I didn't find it impressive. Sandor's advantage is just probably his experience, but he is not the same as Ryan or better than him, I don't see him beating Haney in this fight. I hope I'm wrong though as I really hate the style of Haney, not so entertaining but now he cannot boast anymore his undefeated record as Ryan gave him that 1 loss.



If that was already ordered, can Haney avoid him? I think it's not wise to avoid him as it will only create rumors than Haney have avoided him because he doesn't want to loss his belt. I guess for now I will be checking the fight highlights of Sandor and maybe I can agree with you.

42-3 is a great record, definitely not something you'd underestimate. Sure it's not spectacular, like Mayweather with 43-0, but don't forget that even Tyson who is called one of the best boxers ever had a record of 50-6, so flawless fighters are very very rare. 42-3 is really good in total. I'd still put my money on Haney because he's more well known, but it's not like this fight is going to be completely one sided.

It's weird to me that the boxing federations and organizations are still doing this kind of matchmaking system, it's not really filtering anything not to mention that it's not making any kind of progress and the fighters that are underappreciated aren't given the highlights, look at what UFC has been doing, they're able to do a really good matchmaking system where you're forced or at the least have to fight in some order to be able to curry Dana's favor to give you a place in the main event if not be part of it. I'm still so confused at how the boxing federations are still able to get away with this, I guess when money's involved and money talks, it's not a good choice to go against the provider just because you wanted to change something.

Devin Haney needs to do more training and sharpen his technique because look at what happened last time, he either lacked the training or did it but Garcia's just too strong.

Devin Haney is already an improved fighter and a sharp fighter when it comes to ring generalship until Ryan Garcia exposed his pillow fist and brittle chin. Haney may have good movement in the ring, but Ryan is very familiar with his chin and his fist because they already fought 6 times prior to their title fight.
Everything looked great for Haney until Ryan Garcia and now all his coming opponents will do what Ryan did and go for his chin and underestimate his punches.
They are just going to say that I need to get into Chin to throw off his game; this is what Sandor is going to do. Haney needs to strengthen his punches and not just his hit-and-run tactics, his future opponents must respect his punches.

These are not the most exciting styles to match together. If they do end up fighting we will see a lot of running, hugging, and neither guy will really be able to hurt their opponent. I would rather see Haney against Teofimo or Subriel Matias. It is honestly a stacked division, where Pitbull Cruz and Josh Taylor are also competing. There was much better options than this dreadful matchup, but I guess Sandor got some sympathy from the WBC after he was robbed against Teofimo.

Agreed, however this Sandor should not be underestimated. If everyone speculates that this will be very easy for Devin Haney very much similar on how everyone speculated that Ryan Garcia was going to be easy for Haney, I reckon research Sandor's fights. He has a majority decision victory against Mikey Garcia and a split decision loss against Teofimo Lopez. This implies that he is trying is most hardest against the best boxers. If the odds for this is again similar to King Ry vs. Haney, the correct bet might be on Sandor.

There are 3 people on Sandor victory by decision. I reckon these are me, @bisdak and @Boafeng hehehehehee.

I agree that Martin is not a threat Devin Haney if we consider his knockout ratio but this is the boxer that gave Teofimo Lopez a hard time when the latter move up to this division. I hope though that Martin could duplicate his performance when he fought Lopez so that we can see a competitive fight because if not then this could be a sort of a tune-up fight for Haney which he badly needed by now after that humiliation he suffered against Ryan Garcia.

Yes, the thing with Lopez is that he has power and very tough, as compare to what's left with Haney here, perhaps he is still emotionally affected by the big lost he got from Ryan Garcia. So if ever Martin goes on being aggressive and was able to maintain it throughout the fight and then Haney seeing the ghost of last fight, maybe Sandor can make it a close fight here. However, in close rounds, we've seen to notice that the judges usually gave the round to the champion, and unless Martin give us dominant showing per round he could be in the short end deal and judges giving the fight to Haney.

It will be a very tough fight for Haney because Sander is a very good opponent and winning him is going to be hard for Haney. I guess this time Haney is going to face the toughest opponent of his entire career, but I still hope he'll perform good if he fights with Sandor Martin.

Devin Haney is good at knocking out his opponents but Sandor isn't an easy opponent. But when it comes to energy then surely we can find Haney much more energetic as he's 25 years old and has enough energy to fight Sandor who's 30 years old. But, from experience perspective Sandor is still on top, and that's why I believe Haney has to reconsider in order to defend his title.

Sandor Martin is a tough customer for Haney here, and his game style is not about his power as he didn't have base on his record, but how he is that aggressive, is the game plan and he almost upset Teo back then, and I think majority will agree that he could have won that fight.


No, Devin Haney is not known to knock his opponents, maybe in the Prograis fight he score a knock down but that's it. Even at 140 lbs, his power is not big as compare to other champions like Teo Lopez, Pitbull Cruz or Matias. And with that, this fight is not going to be easy for him and don't think that this is a cherry pick fight. He will have to work his ass off against a fighter that has nothing to lose.

His toughest opponent was Ryan Garcia as that was the only boxer that defeated him. However, if Sandor will pull an upset win like knocking out Haney, then we can say that he is the toughest opponent of Haney.

Not really IMO, Haney is good in winning but knocking out, he doesn't have that kind of reputation. That's why if he'll win this fight, it's likely via unanimous decision win.

Hehehe this will certainly be considered a tune up fight by the team of Devin Haney. However, this Sandor might be difficult. Haney has to prove that he is not a pillow hands. King Ry was not afraid to take a punch in his face to give a punch on Haney to get the knockdowns. I reckon Sandor might use a similar tactic. Let Haney come and Sandor will counter punch.

Also, is this not very much premature for Devin Haney to fight after the very embarrassing loss against King Ry? He should get 1 year vacation before returning. His father Bill should stop him.

Unfortunately, he proved that he is a feather fisted fighter, was not able to put Garcia in the canvass, while Ryan knock him down 3x, first time in his career to taste the canvass and Haney was not the same anymore.


Right but if WBC is mandated him to defend his belt or more likely strip of it, then I think they don't have a choice but to go and accept this fight the sooner. But as we have been saying, Sandor Martin might be a dangerous fighter for Haney as his comeback fight after that humiliating lost from King Ry.

If majority of us here considered Sandor Martin a very hard matchup for Haney then, it should not be considered as a tune up fight. Although I might have my reservations if this is going to push thru as it says "ordered" and not yet final? I maybe be wrong here.

But hopefully if this happens, I do hope that it will be very boring as Haney might use to play defense more because of what had happen to him during his fight with Garcia as he became aggressive and then he was caught and it was over for him moving forward.

I'm sure I'm not the only one curious about how Haney will perform after he got devastated by Garcia, there was news that he fired his father as his trainer so we'll see who will train him and what new style will he adopt/
Garcia exposed him, and his weaknesses will be the target of all his future opponents; we are curious about his confidence level.
He needs a strong showing against Sandor, and I don't believe that Sandor will accept a step-aside money. I have seen this guy so hungry for winning a title. He was disappointed when he lost against Lopez, and he will take this opportunity because Haney is vulnerable.

You cannot get your confidence back after getting knocked down three times and humiliated, and Sandor's team will go for a title shot.
We'll know an update on this negotiation in a few weeks.

I like that you mentioned this factor, that loss to Ryan Garcia although it's a non title fight is so big for him, so maybe he is affected emotionally on that and his come back  is just premature and Sandor might be able to use that on his advantage. Now, I like to bet on Sandor as I'm sure he is the heavy underdog, Haney is not unbeatable anymore, and that alone is already a reality that we can consider to be attracted with betting on his opponent.

I thought it's already confirm, what are we talking here? it's confirm that they'll fight but no venue and date yet?

Update on the Devin Haney - Sandor Martin:

This is a big disappointment for Devin Haney. He is upset at the amount of money he will receive to fight Sandor Martin; it was reported that Top Rank Boxing outbid Matchroom Boxing at $2.42M to win the rights to host on ESPN.
A far cry from the $30 million he received when he fought Ryan Garcia, if Haney does not agree to what Top Rank is offering, he will have to vacate his WBC title, so we will see if he will proceed with the fight at that amount or he will vacate it.
Devin loses his appeal after that huge loss to Ryan Garcia, but he needs to remain a champion if he wants a rematch against Ryan, so I believe he will likely fight Sandor with that amount.

Fans hate his boring style though, I agree that he had accomplished a lot, still very young, but he doesn't have the charisma that Tank Davis and Ryan Garcia has. So he will have to understand the business side of boxing that he will not always get what he wanted since he can't bring fans to the arena to watch his fight.

It's just interesting though that his promotions, Matchroom didn't try to outbid Top Rank or didn't offer huge money here? So yeah, it's a disappointed for him. I was not also aware that he fired his father as a trainer as this father and son and other duo in boxing right now are very close. So that's another relationship that turns awkward because of a loss.

I haven' voted yet, hehehe. But I do like the chances of Sandor Martin here, very tough fighter and maybe Haney pick up the wrong boxer for this comeback fight if he decided to go with Martin or just chooses to vacant the title of he doesn't want the money being offered to him or what he will be getting because it way less than his last fight with Ryan.

Yes, that fight with Teo Lopez and that win against Garcia really shows what kind of boxer Sandor here. He doesn't care who is in front of him. And lately, we've seen some upets so I wouldn't be surprised if Sandor came in strong and try to get a win here with a hard and grinding fight to make Haney uncomfortable which he is not used to.

I also don't like his style he is a poor version of Mayweather; at least Mayweather has a knockout punch and a solid chin, their only similarity is the footwork and defense, but overall, he is a poor copy of Mayweather; you can't never be great if your two weaknesses are not having a big punch and a glass chin, the $2.4 million dollar is his worth as a boxer now for being exposed by Ryan.

Let's see if he swallows his pride and proceeds with the fight, but there is news that he will not fight unless they correct his record and make him undefeated because of Ryan's violation.

The fact this fight only got one bid, from Sandor Martin’s promoter, shows what his true market value is when he is the A-side fighter. Even the fight with Ryan Garcia struggled to sell tickets. Haney is a talented fighter, but he is not a superstar and shouldn’t be fighting on PPV. A few decades ago he might have been good enough to headline on HBO, but these days fighters aren’t satisfied with just being on TV and making 7 figures, they want to get paid tens of millions and everything is getting pushed toward PPV, even for fights that not many want to watch.

Exactly, he will be humble enough to admit that he is not a PPV star because his dance partner here is obviously a good boxer but doesn't have the draw power as his last opponent, Garcia and Loma.

Let's see if Bob Arum winning this fight will pay off for him. But not sure about it, Haney has been crack already. There's no more that enigma unlike before when he is being compared to Floyd Mayweather. He was beaten by Ryan regardless if Garcia uses PED or what.

True, because once a boxer start to loss,  his opponent will gain more confident as he is not the same anymore. And knowing Haney is not a KO artist, it would be easier for his opponent to be more aggressive and try to look on his weak spot to put him in the canvas again. I'd say Ryan had exposed him, so I guess we might consider the possible upset of this match up even if Haney is still expected to be a way heavy favorite to win.

Right, just like Wilder in recent memories, in the first fight he is in the brink of getting his first L, unfortunately, he turn the tide with that knockdown on Fury. But in the second fight it was totally different story, Fury dominated him. And after that fight it Wilder is no longer has that mentality to overcome that lost. Now, against Zhang he was knockout again and he could be in his way to retire.

Not saying that Haney will retire, but in his next fight, he will still have that memory and if by chance Sandor Martin put him in trouble, he might have that mental image again and so his going to lose focus. And Sandor is no easy fight, tough chin and just try to put pressure and grind it hard in his every fight.

There were reports that Haney preferred to retire until his record is updated to undefeated again. I've been trying to get the news on a reliable source, but all I can see are YouTube and some unpopular sites that have posted this.

I'm not writing Haney off. It was just one fight, and it was a controversial fight, and it is not yet over, but Haney's team should advise him to continue fighting and prove himself even if many think that he has been cracked, retiring is such a bad option, other once undefeated boxers are in a hurry to get back in the ring after their first loss to prove themselves again.

Well, I guess Haney's record will return to undefeated again because a few hours ago, the NYSAC ruled the fight as "no contest"
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/boxing/2024/06/20/ryan-garcia-suspended-failed-drug-test-devin-haney-no-contest/74163795007/
Aside from that, Garcia has been banned for at least a year because of what happened. Recently, he announced his retirement, but I will not take it seriously after how many times he trolled online. As for Haney, I saw some posts online that he will be staying away from boxing for at least 2 years. I wonder what will happen to him and his title since this fight has been ordered by WBC.

Just weird though if he decided to retire just because he lost to Ryan Garcia. And if that is the case then I wouldn't consider him great or elite. Although he has been mainly criticized for his fighting style that he called him a boring fighter. But at least if you compare it to Tank Davis, he had accomplished a lot in his young career and become undisputed.

So that is a bad impression on his career, he still very young if this is in his tail end of his career then maybe it's a good gauge to retire like what Manny had when he lost to Ugas. But he is still in his 20's and he can still accomplished more and don't like one fight define his entire career.

Too bad for Ryan, the record may have been changed to undefeated and the fight ruled as a no-contest but many people, including me, will still think that Haney was cracked, one of the scenes that looked ugly was when Ryan was holding him, and turning his back and he keeps punching him in the side and Ryan is not even bothered when Tank only took one shot to fold Ryan.
The glass chin and the pillow punch will stay on for many boxing fans' minds and people will doubt his chance against fighters like Tank or Shakur.

That also includes me. But that was an unfair fight, of course, and Ryan should suffer for it. But, yeah, glass chin and pillow punch stay with Haney. Whatever his dad proclaims him to be so, Devin is never a big name in boxing. There won't ever be a Devin Haney era.

I'm rooting for Sandor here. Some are saying Sandor is not a KO puncher. That argument doesn't count. When was Haney's last KO? 5 years ago? And Sandor's? But I think this is going to be a battle of points.

Yep, we have seen Haney stanky legs against a old Jorge Linares, he didn't went down but very wobbly. If only Linares is in his prime during that fight, Haney might be in trouble. But Ryan here proved that we have been suspected that Haney has glass chin and couldn't take punch and Ryan give him 3 knock outs that he will not forget throughout his career.

It's just too bad that he had been allegedly did take performance enhancing drugs, although it is so minute that I don't think that it really help him here in this fight as we all know that he had the power already to knockout people based on is previous fights. But he should go and follow what has been meted to him, it's not a life time ban so definitely he can go back next year again and if Haney wanted the rematch for bigger money then he should do it. Assuming that he will win against Sandor Martin here.

Look at it here: Haney is unsatisfied with Ryan's one-year suspension and regaining his undefeated record. He wants Ryan to pay more because his value as a boxer was greatly diminished because of his loss to Ryan. His next title defense can only get him $1.4 million.
Whatever Haney does, people's impression of him will never change; millions have watched how Ryan exposed him, he will never get more than $20, and there will never be a Haney-era unless he knocks out Tank or Garcia. Still, I doubt if he can do that.

 Unsatisfied by NYSAC’s Ban, Devin Haney Vows to Sue Ryan Garcia Further for Damages (https://www.essentiallysports.com/boxing-news-it-has-affected-me-unsatisfied-by-nysacs-ban-devin-haney-vows-to-sue-ryan-garcia-further-for-damages)

Damn, he is pushing it too far; it seems like he still hasn't gotten justice for that fight. Well, maybe his value diminished because people now think he is no longer unbeatable. So, I guess that's what he really cares about: what people say. Haney is not even a PPV attraction, so this is too much. I mean, he is supposed to act like a warrior, not a warrior in a legal battle.

In terms of money, he already has a lot of it. And of course, for Ryan, even if he loses that case again, he can surely pay that amount. But like you said, people will never forget how Ryan beat him.

And the more he acted this way, the more people see him as somewhat soft and I do agree that many boxing fans saw how Ryan exposed him and there's no way that he can get it back. Now going to Sandor Martin fight, big risk, small reward for him. Martin is a very dangerous fighter, he give Teo one hell of a fight and now he has another crack and for sure he will not take this opportunity again for granted and will look for a upset win.

Haney should really concentrate here, otherwise if he is distracted and his mind is still Ryan Garcia, then he could be exposed by Martin again and will lose his belt. He will nowhere get close to the amount that Ryan gave and that is facts.

We can't blame Haney he promotes himself as the next Mayweather or even better than Floyd but the Garcia fight crumbles his dream of being the greatest in this generation, Haney wants Ryan to be banned in boxing for life for what he did because of what happened he is suffering mentally and his worth diminished


I've seen Sandor Martin fights and admired him right away when he beat and retired Mikey Garcia who is a multi-division titlist, and how he almost beat Teofimo Lopez, Sandor will surprise us here he may upset Haney because he knows Haney is still suffering emotionally.

The worst is for Haney to suffer from a breakdown you don't go from being great to being despised because you are exposed people will watch Haney and look for signs of a breakdown, the fight will be interesting because people want to see how Haney will handle himself.

The Haney-Garcia was ruled a no-contest, and Haney is back as an undefeated champion again, but to everybody's surprise, Haney requested DAZN to remove the footage; he also requested YouTube to remove all footage about his losses, which IU doubt DAZN will grant as its one of the big money maker on YouTube with over 13 million views now and growing.
YouTube is unlikely to remove it as it is part of history that the fight happens regardless of what happened after the fight.

Haney is so devastated that he wants people to forget the fight happen but I doubt people will forget it, the fight will hound him for the rest of his boxing career.

^^ Lol, what he is trying to do? He can't removed it from our memories and there could be a lot of sites that have that video not just Youtube. So it seems it's really a desperate attempt on them side to forget but boxing fans won't.

And fans are going to troll him for that even after he retires from the sport. And this could be the first time that we here such out of this world request to removed all videos of his lost from Ryan Garcia. And it really make us fans think that he is not mentally prepared for Sandor Martin if he keeps on living with the Ryan Garcia lost.

Garcia really put Haney where he belongs when he knock down his ass. Yep, he was so devastated that he wanted to get rid of all that bad memories. But Sandor Martin bullies him again, I don't see Haney coming back in this fight. It could be his worst decision to fight the Spaniard as he is a spoiler and it could be a bad style matchup for Haney. And then again, he is coming from a big lost so why they chooses him baffles me. Maybe Bill Haney thought that this is their ticket, but they could be wrong if his son again losses this one via knockout or him getting into the canvass again and judges giving Martin that win.

Devin Haney is certainly more than devastated. His mind and heart has been very much destroyed! He has requested a champion on recess and cancelled the fight against Sandor Martin. Devin Haney will need more than 1 year vacation and an immediate rematch vs. King Ry if he wants his mind to return to normal. However, after the suspension and similar to what I have predicted before, there will be a rematch. There will be another knockout of Devin Haney by King Ry and there will be another dirty sample of urine from King Ry hehehehehehehe.

Devin Haney is clearly devastated and i think he is not yet ready physically and mentally for a fight, if this Sandor Martin fight will push through, there is a big chance that he will be defeated as his focus right now is to regain that zero lose and erase the footage of his fight against Ryan hehe.

Great boxers like Manny Pacquaio recovers from a devastating lose against Juan Manuel Marquez and move forward as if nothing happens, this kind of mentality should ne instilled on the head of Haney as not all the time you will win in boxing. The measurement of greatness for me in boxing  is how you bounce back from a lose and not with a zero lose.

The more Haney cries like a b*tch, the more people becoming curious and are now watching the replays and the more Garcia taunts him. Garcia looks like he is more focused on becoming a social media star than becoming a champion in boxing and he is loving the drama and the trend happening now. I just checked Ryan's Instagram and he's got 12 million followers now. The last time I checked it was 10 million.

It's pretty clear that Haney is devastated. He just told the WBC that he is not fighting Sandor and he wants to take a break. Sandor will now fight Puello for the WBC belt.

And as expected, the corrupt WBC does not want to punish Ryan. Instead, it says that Ryan needs help and they are ready to help with open arms.

Well he has a full year to continue everything in social media, and so he is taking that advantage as he always posts image and that meme on Devin Haney hehe. Devin though is a cry baby and as what we are saying, the more he complains, the more the fans becoming to dislike him.

And Ryan Garcia winning the hearts of boxing fans, hehehe. He even had a poker game that I saw with Miami Heat's Jimmy Butler with million chips amongst them. So he is loving his lifestyle right now and all the attention that he is getting.

I guess this fight is no longer happening, as Devin Haney requested that WBC put him as "champion in recess", so it means he will not be defending his belt anymore and they elevated Puello as their champion and so he will be one going to fight Sandor Martin.


https://www.ringtv.com/674610-devin-haney-named-champion-in-recess-wbc-orders-alberto-puello-sandor-martin/

^^ And according to that article, Haney will just received $1.5 million? That is a far cry from what he got from the Ryan fight, I don't have the numbers but it could be easy $10 million. So and with the mental damage that Garcia gave him, and now getting a measly just 10% of his previous earnings, perhaps that is the reason why he wanted to rest and so requesting the corrupt WBC and obviously they gave in because of the pressure.

So we need to update this thread to Puello vs Martin and I still think that Puello might be the slight favorite going into that fight. Just to bad for Haney to act like this, I mean he doesn't want to defend his belt as he is mandated. But then forced the WBC to declared him champion in recess.

Lol, I have already told that Haney can not cry as much as he can, do what ever he want, but he will always be remembered as beaten by Garcia. The more Haney excuses, the greater his loss looks. And the one who is winning from all excuses and hype is Garcia. Haney should either be silent, or do his best to have a rematch and next time prove that he is better.

I have already posted and everything is going exactly that way:

Right, I think almost all boxing fans knows that Ryan Garcia did take out the soul of Devin Haney, hehehe. It won't change a bit for us even if the fight turns into NC in his record, we all that he has been knock down 3x and he is not a cry baby because of all his request.

And now he wanted to be a champion in recess? Lol, it means he doesn't want to fight no more against Martin because he is worth very cheap, hehehe. And since he is mentally damage, his father should not forced him to fight as he might not be ready for Sandor Martin as the wounds is still fresh from that Garcia embarrassment.

Haney was disappointed with the $2.4 million bid. It is a clear downgrade from his status as a former undisputed lightweight champion, and on his last fight where he received $30 million from the Garcia fight.
I read that DAZN wants him to fight Lian Paro


Source: Eddie Hearn Proposes Devin Haney Vs. Liam Paro Fight In Australia - Boxing News 24 (https://www.boxingnews24.com/2024/06/eddie-hearn-proposes-devin-haney-vs-liam-paro-fight-in-australia/)

Haney has limited options. He cannot also go into the welterweight division and challenge Ennis because that would be disastrous, he may take the Paro fight in Australia, but Paro's upset against Subriel is bad news for Haney; all of this happens to Haney because of his terrible loss to Ryan.

So if this happens then it's another bypass of the interim champion, because the winner of Puello vs Martin will become the WBC interim champ. And if ever Haney comes back (as he is a champion in recess as per WBC), then the first order of the day should be him vs the winner of Puello vs Martin to just have one champion in their body.

And it Hearn proposes this fight then it doesn't make sense as there will be two champion in WBC. That's how fuck up this governing body is as what we have discussed, the most corrupt of them as compare to other body in boxing.

$10 million is possible but even if it is lower than that amount it should be at least $5 million. So somehow it makes sense to just rest after being physically and mentally destroyed by Ryan in exchange for the multi million dollars he received.

The WBC is always going for the money first. It already said that it is open to help Ryan Garcia which means Ryan might be able to fight outside New York and the WBC is still willing to sanction and rank him up in case he wins While at the same time putting Haney as a champion in recess.

I hope Sandor wins the belt. The guy was supposed to win over Teofimo and was always deprived of a title shot by the governing bodies.

Yes, that's a good excuse for Haney to just take a break it the money is not worth it against Sandor Martin. He is exhausted for sure as his fight with Ryan Garcia is still being discussed till this day by many boxing forums and fans around the world.


Might be interesting what kind of help WBC is willing to give Ryan though. It is that they will allow him to fight outside of the decision of NYSAC? They said that they will abide by it and also suspend Ryan. So it seems that it's two fold for them and as long as they are going to make money out of the Ryan case, for sure they will allow him to fight outside I guess.

Any championship must only have one fighter who holds the champion title from each class, it can never have two title holders at once.
Things like this have happened several times and it is not surprising that the title holder cannot fight until there is title fight while waiting for the mandatory fight to fight for the actual title against the fighter who was the previous champion.

And in fact Haney asked to be placed as Champion in Recess, from all this it is clear that the WBC board also agreed or fulfilled Haney wishes, and in the future he will have full rights again so he can fight directly with the title holder.
From this we can conclude that Haney did not lose the title in full and currently Alberto Puello as the title holder can also lose the title at any time when there is fight for the title he holds.
But I think this is not important for Haney because the only thing he wants is to be able to have rematch with Ryan Garcia.

Yes, if there is a word that is more worse than devastated, this is Devin Haney. This should be his new fighting name hehehe. Devin the Devastated Haney heheheeh. He might never return to his confident self because you know why? I speculate that he has also used steroids! All of these athletes use steroids.

On Pacman, he has a very mature mind. I read articles about his hardships in his country. I reckon that this will certainly cause a strong mind to develop in a person. If he did not become a boxer, we can be quite certain he will be successful in another chosen career.

Very hard to compare the mindset of Manny, yeah, he came from hardship and so he has to really work hard and then follow his dreams. Unlike this American boxer who are always spoon feed that when they lost, they can't take it as a man and now he wanted to take a leave of absence and declare him to be champion in recess, Lol.

And it just shows how brutal this sports is, I mean you have been a champion and enjoying successes until you got that one lost that you can't get over with and you will do everything so that it will be erased from your memory. But it's not going to happen as boxing fans knows what kind of personality Devin Haney has

And here is what Eddie Hearn says about him not bidding on this supposedly fight that made Devin Haney furious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onNmdz9WuFY

Go to 4:20, and the interviewer has a good question, to simply put, Haney didn't ask Hearn if his company is going to bid in that fight. And he also confirms that Haney doesn't have a longer contract with him. And with that, he is not willing to put big money on that fight as they are not align according to him.

This interview is prior to Haney requesting WBC to be champion in recess if I'm not mistaken.

It all messed up now for Haney, he is not training anymore for this fight he is busier suing Ryan Garcia and trying to fix his lost reputation and wounded ego, he requested DAZN to remove his fight against Haney which DAZN declined and now he is pushing and requesting YouTube to take out which I doubt will comply.
I guess he will need Agent J's Laser of Men In Black for people to forget what happened between him and Ryan  :D

He doesn't need to get involved with that as he has an upcoming fight to prepare for. He can sue because he has the right, but the longer this issue is talked about by the fans, the more it will only result in decreasing the value of Haney. Worst of all, if he does not seriously train and ends up losing, then there would be no point in what he did to keep his undefeated record by suing Ryan Garcia. This fight will test if he is still mentally tough despite what happened, and for those who believe that Haney was really affected, I think it's worth the risk to bet against him.

It can only happen in the movie but not in real life, people will never forget as it's already written in the books.

He doesn't have any upcoming fight to prepared for, he already requested WBC already that he will not fight and so they declared him as champion in recess and Sandor Martin and Puello will duel it out for the interim belt.

And as Eddie Hearn said in one interview, it seems that there are two opposing side on Haney right now, those people that really are concern of him and then those who might destroy him and probably advising him to sue Ryan and requested that his losses be removed by social media which we all think is not going to happen.

Well, if that is his decision, then we need to respect it as he probably needs more time to recover mentally from his loss to Ryan Garcia. All the talks from Haney's side are about wanting Ryan to suffer for cheating. They already won the legal battle, and it seems they are not satisfied yet, which could only mean the damage is really huge. Before, Ryan was reported to have suffered from a mental problem; I think now it will be Haney's turn.

They have a basis, and I think it could be removed but not completely. So people could still see it if they searched for it because once something is on the internet, it cannot be completely deleted. Good luck with their request; it seems impossible, but who knows. As for me, I would never forget what happened, and I'll tell my grandchildren about it in the future. :D

I'm locking this thread now. The fight is not going to happen anymore, it's going to be Sandor and Apuello now; I prefer to have a dedicated thread for these two fighters.

A lot of things are not right for Haney; he is more busy campaigning for the eradication of his fight against Ryan Garcia online which is not going to happen and has not been done before; every time he fights now, people will remember how Ryan Garcia knocks him down three times.

He wants his next fight to be against Garcia because he wants to avenge his ugly loss, but I doubt it will happen right away as Ryan is now suspended for one year because of the illegal substance, so Haney will have to wait for a year to negotiate for a rematch