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Did you also notice that most Nigerian members here in Bitcointalk earn merit very quickly compared to other local members who have been on Bitcointalk for a long time and have quality posts but still struggle to rank up because they can't earn merit? Are there cases in the Nigerian community of merit abuse? I'm not being racist here, just an observation. How do they manage to earn merits like that?

Unless you provide concrete evidence, I don't think there is anything unusual. Before they only had Brainboss as a merit source, and I don't know if theymos ended up appointing another one. But in any case, that merit circulates in a local section is normal and the Nigerian community is quite important in Bitcointalk. I'm sure most of those that come to mind, like Brainboss, Charles-Tim, Igebotz, Mia Chloe, Satoprincess and many others have earned their merits honestly.

I already notice it before they massively farming in this forum, though this also happens in few other locals.

It's easy, just create alt accounts as many as possible, then they participate in merit giveaway thread or create merit fishing thread. Every merits they got from genuine users and merit sources, they send it to their alt accounts.

Let's say one of the user earn 50 merits, this user can distribute 25 sMerits, then the next user can distribute 12 sMerits, then next user can distribute 6 merits and so on. That's why they're growing very fast.

Unfortunately, merit abuse can't be tagged since people will ask address, social media etc connections first, which is they already know how to hide it.

I agree, although there are 95% abusers on there, there are still few genuine users.

Firstly op why didn't you post this with your main account instead of using an alt? Because I don't see how some one with zero merit understands how the merit system in Naija board works and even knows the correct board to post this?


Just like poker player mentioned, Naija board had no merit sources for a very long time. And even Brainboss who is our merit source doesn't have much smerit allocation. If you even check the Naija board properly I believe we have only one merit review thread and it was even created of recent this year per say. I'm not saying that there don't exist any merit cycle on our board but what I'm saying is don't generalize the local board in matters like this. We have a lot of active and knowledgeable members on our board that have earned all their merits honestly.

 How sure are you this occurrence only takes place in the Nigerian local board or is there someone you're having a personal beef with over there? Like @Mia Chloe pointed out, if you were serious with your 'observation', you would have used your main account and at least done well to provide adequate evidence to back your claim. This thing you've just brought up is indirectly saying there are no knowledgeable and hardworking posters on that board but rather, a bunch of shitposters and merit farmers and yet you say you aren't racist? This had nothing to even do with racism, you just can't get past the fact that there are people who can contribute meaningfully to the forum and get merits for it.
 For those who you feel are quickly getting their merits, can you at least bring up a user who you think doesn't deserve the amount of merits they have?
It's funny but I must commend your approach at getting attention to yourself as a newbie. Others will just hit us with things like "I'm a newbie, I need guidance". You on the other hand decided to take a different angle by playing detective and you'd wonder how a noob managed to get this much experience in a little while spent here. SMH ::)

Point of correction my friend, Nigerians are not merit abusers, but rather Nigerians are creative individuals who are able to post valuable contents who gets them merit easily, and I don't think that has ever been a crime on this forum, because inasmuch as we as a community were able to appreciate the post of newbies in our local board, that doesn't make us abusers. Because what I thought you would have done, is back up your allegations with concrete proof about people on our local board you suspect to be merit abusers. Because taking myself as an example, I will be sharing with you just 2 threads I created which gave me a total of 360 merits consecutively whereby 99% of the merit I got from those 2 threads came from people outside our local board. And here they are;

First: On this thread given below, I was able to have 250 merits in 14days of it's posting, and today the thread has over 301 merits alone
Touching the life of random poor kids with all my 3wks campaign BTC (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5410455.msg60779946#msg60779946)

Second: While on this other thread below, I was able to have over 40 merits on its first 3days of posting, and today the thread has 59 merits alone.
How I was able to donate Books to school pupils with my little Campaign Bitcoin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5487267.msg63745772#msg63745772)

So with this, I think I should be able to reshape your doubt that Nigerians are not merit abusers, but rather creative individuals who are able to create valuable contents which gives them merit easily. Thank you, Shalom..

Because it's scary.  ;D

OP, how come they can do it and you can’t? Probably because people are trying. I see a lot of good posters in the Nigerian section; although they may not be masters of the pen, they learn and grow. Are you sure that you also put in so much effort? Maybe this is just ordinary envy.

To accuse someone of alternative accounts, you must prove it in practice. Ranting about certain people without evidence is simply showing your weakness.


Try your best, OP.

Several months ago, they were complaining about the lack of sufficient merit sources, so I am happy that there has been a positive change. If you find any abuse of merit, please report it here.

What if he has evidence but the merits are sent to quality posts. That would be an invalid evidence.

95% or more of my merits comes from English board, despite that I am very active on Nigeria local board. 100% of Satoprincess merits in the last 120 days are from English boards. Mia Chloe started with translation on local board, but I think he is more confidence on English board and he is earning almist all his merits from English board. CryptopreneurBrainboss and Igebotz are good posters.

Merit is not completely accurate but its main purpose is to help quality posts to be more on this forum.

Compare Nigeria with Russia and turkey. We are the three highest posters.

Post your comparison, preferably in a chart so it'll be easy to read. Then next you'll need to understand that a gap (if there is any) does not mean one is abusing the system, there is the option that there are not enough merits circulating in other boards/threads.
If your board is low on merits report to the admin that you want a designated merit source. The Nigerian board didn't even have one until few days ago.

This is not an observation but an accusation with no evidence to back it up.

One is free to make a controversial post using a alt account. But it further shows that this was not a genuine inquiry but a way to cast aspersions.

Did you ever notice that it doesn't matter? Let's say that Any local is full of cheaters trading merit back n forth. Eventually they will probably be caught, but how does that help or hurt you? If you are making quality posts and not being a bitch, you will start getting noticed and merited. There are threads where you can ask for help with merits as well. Best to just worry about yourself and not get jealous of other members.

I haven't looked, but I have a feeling I'm the biggest "merit fan" for some of the Nigerian members based on BPIP data, because in the past year or so I'd gotten a lot of requests for post history reviews from members I'm fairly sure were from that country.  I don't really pay attention to, much less keep track of, what countries people are from even if it's public knowledge. 

If I gave too many merits to members (Nigerian or not) who might not have deserved them in the opinion of others, I'll just say that I tried to be as generous as my conscience would allow.  That was in retrospect, a mistake and it's why I chose to end my offer.

But there have been quite a few members of the Nigerian community who've shown their passion for bitcoin and made interesting posts (often with a little bit of humor thrown in, which is rare here), even if their grasp of English wasn't the best.  I certainly have nothing against their community.


Toward the end of my post review offer, I was beginning to worry about that merit-sharing, because I would often take a look at the merit histories of the people who were PMing me and see that there was a lot of that going on.  That said, I don't know what country or countries or communities were involved for sure, though I do think it was happening with some of the Nigerian members.  I couldn't tell if it was simply taking the merits I'd sent them and distributing the sMerits amongst their own community members (sort of in lieu of a local board merit source) or if it was straight-up merit abuse.  I just got a bad feeling about it in my gut, because I know the level of shenanigans that shit can get to when it comes to ranking up.  Anyway.

it's called MUMU POWAAA my friend, deal with it  ;D

The Nigerian local board is very active and it seems to me that it has made the biggest progress in recent years If I remember correctly, you got a dedicated board only a few years ago. I was quite surprised when I saw quite a few well-known users writing there.
Recognizability is probably a sign of better quality posters and when we add to that merit source that maybe pushed the Nigerian local a little, it shouldn't be a surprise for a large number of merits there. It certainly doesn't look undeserved.

The members of the Nigerian board are very hard working and creative at the same time that's why they earn many merits as compare to others. But, it's not right to say that members of other local boards aren't earning many merits because I have seen members from other boards earning a lot of merits in short period.

Just because these;
(active users + number of merit sources = fast merit circulation)

I didn't know yet but I think they have more than one merit source, right?  (correct me if I'm wrong)

You shouldn't be jealous of them because they deserve what they achieved based on their performance.
You can check on their post history if they abuse the merit system.

 Has anyone else noticed that Op hasn't come back to defend his claim or has he suddenly developed cold feet? Well this is what happens when you feel it's okay to wake up and start making baseless assumptions because you won't really have enough to back his words.
The Nigerian local board is one of the most engaging areas in this forum and if the Op is wondering how they earn their merits so quickly the only answer is by contributing positively.

To be honest, there's so much merit going around in forum that anyone who is active and of decent post quality should have no issues whatsoever when it comes to ranking up.

Speaking strictly about Nigerian local board, their merit/post ratio is among the lower ones among all other local boards so no, I don't think that anything weird is going on there (at leats not on the mass scale). Having said that, they are one of the biggest local boards with many active members which may give you impression that something dodgy is going on.

https://i.postimg.cc/dVSK2Bmq/Merit-post-ratio-per-local-board-15.png

This account BossJumong is own by BlackBoss_ , he has been against Nigerians in the forum in many ways, the guy don't want to see any Nigerian progress in the forum, and he is very happy when a Nigerian account has been ban, or has red tag. First evidence the two usernames are almost the same, one has prefix Boss while the other has the suffix Boss. And in different occasions he has displayed his hatred. The following links can also speak well for the Alt.
My receiving of merits was also a problem for him after when I returned so he created this thread on top of my head.
Plagiarist DiMarxist is back. No signature ban? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5485343.0)
He created this thread because of my merits and nothing more. You can see what he said,

and also He has been on Nigerians and the Local Board Neck from the beginning. This is his alt. If he uses his main account, people will attack him so he has to create new account to create the thread. And this new account know so much about Nigeria Local Board Merit system.

Nicest reply Huge!
I remember when merits were lacking in the board and you had to start a merit distribution thread with CryptopreneurBrainboss in the Nigeria local board. Today, if the story has changed, it should be seen as progress unless otherwise is discovered.

OK, so I didn't check his profile in case he listed where he's from (not that I'd believe that anyway), but do you know what country he's from and/or why he seems to have such a problem with the Nigerian community?


That's probably true, since a lot of the Nigerian members also post in the main English section and there are quite a few of them who make decent posts.  OP just has a bug up his ass it seems.  You know what you said is true and so does everyone else on the Nigerian board, so just let his little slight against you guys slide right off you like H₂O off a duck's ass.

If you look at any below average to mediocre quality Nigerian poster’s merit history you will often see a wall of merits mostly coming from users such as fillipone, JayJuanGee, and CryptoBrainboss. It is not racist to point this out, it is just the way it is. I wouldn’t really consider this merit abuse, but it’s also not that users are being organically merited because of their superior quality. What is even the point of having a merit system that isn’t based on being meritorious but is significantly based in cronyism and begging?

Don't get jealous with what they achieve but instead clap your hands with the achievement gotten by those people who earn a lot of merits since they really deserve it.

I remember before thay they are suggesting frequently to have a local sub board and its amazing to see that they are been united to make this to happen. So if they get a lot of merits from their local board I think its fine since for sure those people giving merits on that board knows what they are doing and for sure they give merits to those people who they think deserves to receive it.

Well, it's only him that can perfectly state what his deal is with the Nigerian community and I checked his main profile, Black_boss and discovered he made only two reports about alts. One where he called out the @sweetness account and where he intended to shame @Dimarxist.
Blackboss knows that calling out the Nigerian community with his main account will put him in such a negative light especially with how he is trying to put out an outstanding rep and continuous badgering will only bring eyes to him hence the need to use his alt.
Seriously, he's not even enough trouble. I just think the Nigerian community have more things to worry about than to be concerned with the musings of an obviously insecure and cowardly dude who can't reconcile with the idea that hardwork and dedication really pays.

I'm not saying your statistic is wrong, but it's not accurate in this context.

It's true the merit/post ratio in the local board is low, but they're actually share their merit in global board...

Umm, I think it's too far.

They're merit sources, so they have more spendable merits unlike ordinary users and sometime merit sources are used to support their local boards, even though there's no written rule about that.

fillippone, he has it's own Merit distribution thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5412657.0), actually any user has a same chance to report his post for being reviewed and merited.

JayJuanGee, I would say you're wrong, he's one of objective merit sources that don't care who you're.

CryptopreneurBrainboss, he's the merit source in Nigeria, so it's make sense he spend more merit in his local board.

What I see the problem is the non merit source users, not the merit sources.

I think the reason why the OP is up with this thread is because of hate and I feel he much envy for Nigerians, the way we do things here on the Forum and if you look closely he's doing this because Nigerians are everywhere more than those from his local board, is a shame he couldn't come out with his real account to face the music. We only have one merit source that find it hard to do what he's suppose to do because he doesn't have that much to merit posts that deserves it, jealousy and hate is just a bitch, I pray the OP comes and defend all he has been saying about Nigerians.

Allow me bring this reply of yours to your notice and maybe you can check for yourself how contradictory you sound right now.  here  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5486666.msg63742916#msg63742916), you are okay with how the merit system works but seem to have a big issue when it concerns the Nigerian local board?
You think most Nigerian posters are being helped by merit sources like the ones you mentioned? SMH! Your assumptions make me lightheaded and I really wonder if you move around the forum and see how other boards abuse the merit system or are you just bothered the Nigerian community is progressing. Allow yourself to be happy for others for once bro.

OP next time back your observations with actual statistics, otherwise your claims have no merits (no pun intended, but, they don't)...

It is natural for forum members to merit accounts from their own local boards, although some local boards are definitely more tribal than others.

The only thing that bugs me is the possibility that alt accounts are being ranked up as quickly as possible to join sig campaigns. Beyond the connections I already uncovered in this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5335270.0), I don't see a proportionally larger amount of alts stemming from the Nigeria section.

This is a nothingburger of a topic, should be locked.

I don't think he is jealous but I guess it's his curiosity. I am sure he will have the same curiosity if he checks our local thread as well. Sadly the activity of the Bengali thread has reduced more than two times and a lot of people did not come back to our local thread after ranking up. We cannot prove merit abuse if we do not find any connection between the accounts. But sometimes it is obvious that some members have alt accounts and they abuse the merit system. I don't talk about it anymore because I already made enough enemies by talking about these shit. I am not saying the same thing happening in Nigeria board, but it's not impossible.

I don't hate Nigerians; there's nothing I hate about being Nigerian. Those who say that I'm jealous have a point—I kind of feel that way. Been here since 2014 and came back 2022 and still Member Rank. I'm really sorry if some of you got hurt feelings because of this. I'm just amazed at how some Nigerian accounts created late 2023 have already earned 500+ merit, that I think might abusing merit.

I was being sarcastic. That reply you linked to was actually intended to be a criticism of the merit system. If you look at the screenshot I included it is of a user who is getting most of his merit from a single thread. He has also only given merit on that one thread. We can definitely see that that thread is used by his local community to quickly rank up their accounts to participate in signature campaigns. I don’t know what language that is but this type of thing is not exclusive to Nigerians, it happens in other Local communities, the OP just probably noticed it more with Nigerians based on his interactions and singled them out.

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I agree with your overall point but I think the merit giveaway threads and people specifically asking merit sources, either privately or publicly, to review their posts is part of the problem too. Such easily acquirable merit is often misused by account farmers and low quality users looking to get into campaigns. Although, with how much of a grind it is for newbies to rank up without these merit sources and their local communities, I don’t know of an ideal solution that wouldn’t just cause newer members to give up in frustration.

Someone from Nigeria can abuse the local board to farm accounts, yes that's possible. But isn't the same for every local board?

Attacking certain board doesn't gonna make any difference, if you find any evidence that someone has been doing it then bring it here or else everyone is going to consider you as troll even if you really have a point cause details matters than words.

Sorry for going off topic, have you guys noticed that there's not much of merit circulation in the global board except few threads?

Nah, I don't think you felt jealous because if you did you should have presented your thread in another way instead of pointing out a particular local board, now this is what you need to do it this is your real account, if you have not joined your country's local board, you should try and locate and join them, learn from the people you see that is always receiving merit feom the post they make I believe you will also starting earning merit if you can write well in your local language. You can also grow your account within 6months of being active on the forum if you can give yourself time to read, learn, make research and know how to make quality post and communicate effectively you will shock to see the merit you will earn.

There's nothing you hate about being ^a Nigerian. Lol, it suggest you are also a Nigerian.

Why will you be jealous over someone earning merit? Do they by any means prevent you from earning merit?

Do they prevent you from making quality post to earn merit?

By the way, after reading other comments before you decided to come up with this reply, you must have seen the accusation of DiMarxist (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5496354.msg64076778#msg64076778), despite that it doesn't have a much connection tho but it really did point a finger that you are the same person with the blackboss account. For you to have skip that comments and remained silent, it mean you are blackboss. There's a saying that who ever remains silents, agrees to what ever accusations they are getting.

Again, where is the member account that you are talking about, am curious to know.

This account that started the thread most likely belongs to a person from the Philippines; check the history. But if we think that his main account is from this country, then we know a lot of good and high-quality posters from there. I think it's not about the country, but about the person himself. He cannot stop at one goal because he looks around, but it would be better to look inside himself and ask what is wrong with him.

So, (if I understood you correctly), you believe that they share merit among themselves in English part of the forum more than usual,  making sort of a merit circle?

We can't point out the main reason why he said what he said, like I said before this is a sign of envy. Maybe this person don't like how Nigerians are all over the Forum, more active than people from his country. Like you said we should ask what's wrong with him, I feel is a personal issue that have been hitting him in his chest and if he have a way of shutting us out from the Forum he'd do it which is bad of him. I think he should investigate things about himself before causing confusion all in the name of some crazy accusation.

As for me I believed that these two accounts are own by one person, BlackBoss_  and BossJumong. If you read my previous comment you can see it clearly. BlackBoss_ and the Op are one person. BlackBoss_ should come defend himself here if he has not done the same thing as this Op did in often time.
The account is too new to know the Nigerian Board. BlackBoss_ should come and clear himself he has not done the same before this week run out.