Bitcoin Forum

Holla gentle men,

Before now, I have joined others to use the word "Bitcoiner" I checked and it is a dictionary word which best describe someone that invest, uses or have a professional knowledge of Bitcoin.

suffix is used to give a word a different meaning, adding the suffix "er" To Bitcoin gives a different meaning which sound cool. If you also add the suffix "ist" To Bitcoin, you will get another cool sounds but I can't see the word on dictionary.

My question is, between Bitcoin-er and Bitcoin-ist, which one sound better?

Another question is, what can we call the study of Bitcoin?  ???

I think Bitcoinist can be good for someone that went through a professional study of bitcoin. But there is nothing called Bitcoinist as of now. I will prefer Bitcoiners for those that are holding bitcoin and for those that are bitcoin enthusiasts.

-er suffix is for people who do something like their occupation. So Bitcoiners are for people who work, use, and invest or do things with Bitcoin.

-ist is for like a religious thing and you can use it like Bitcoin Maximalist who consider Bitcoin as the only and most important cryptocurrency. In their view, altcoins are shitcoins and don't mean anything for the market, Bitcoin is the only one in their hearts.

Religious? lol!

-er is for the action of doing that, it's used only for verbs  "the one that does"  drive / driver , paint / painter , mine /miner
-ist is for one that works with something, both nouns and adverbs, so you don't have bycler/motorer  but bicyclist and automobilist motorist

You have the verb to teach you have teacher, you teach physics (noun) then physicist

To be frank on this, bitcoinist sounds more being professional but you will only discover that people are using bitcoiner as the word with prefix in identifying someone who invest in bitcoin, but either of the two are good to hear and pronounce, just that many were already used to the word bitcoiner.


I don't know if there is a grammatical word for the study of cryptocurrency like cryptopreneur and if at all any of these also exist for the study of bitcoin, you can imagine now that bitcoin only come to existence in 2009 and till now, i never get close to any other word used in its study, maybe we can have a clue from those in El-Salvador.

No!

No!

Don't forget we have "pharmacy" and we have pharmacist which is not a religious something but also an occupation.

We also have archaeologist, neurologist, name it...

A physicist is a scientist who specializes in the field of physics while those that teaches physics can be called physics educator or physics teacher. I am not saying what you explaining is not right as you are using them as examples. According to your explanation, Bitcoiner is not correct, it is Bitcoinist?

In my opinion, bitcoiner, and that is because most of the community use bitcoiner and not bitcoinist, i don't think i have seen someone use the latter. However, bitcoinist may also be correct as the suffix -ist is added to words in order to form a noun, so it could be added to the word bitcoin, to form the noun bitcoinist, which would mean somone who uses bitcoin.
I don't think there is a specific word that denotes this, but bitcoiner also sounds correct here, no?

It's just a way of calling and whether we need to distinguish which is the most suitable, like you talk about the left eye and the right eye to see which eye is more beautiful, in terms of distinguishing from people. Likes to complicate matters that are actually simple. And I would like to suggest that you feel free to use whatever you think is appropriate, for me "er" or "ist" is not so important.

Bitcoiner is more suitable, you can find it in many unofficial dictionaries. I always mention someone who interested with Bitcoin are Bitcoiner or Bitcoin enthusiast, I never mention "Bitcoinist", it just sound not right and strange.

1. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bitcoiner
2. https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Bitcoiner
3. https://crypto.ro/en/dictionary/bitcoiner/

Discussing about this, it makes me remember with this user CryptopreneurBrainboss (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1052091), so another alternative could be Bitcoinpreneur. :P

Yea Stompix has posted what I was thinking but having difficulty explaining, and has a more
technical explanation.

I have never heard, read or seen the name Bitcoin-ist, I would if I was to use that term
apply that to people who mine Bitcoin, similar to someone who operates a metal working
lathe or mill, we call them a "Machin-ist"

Bitcoin-er is used by me to describe "anyone" who gets into and uses Bitcoin.  It could
also be used in the same mode as a "Paint-er", "Runn-er", "Football-er".

Hmm pretty Well, among the two you have mentioned, Bitcoiner sounds like the better one because it kind of matches the action, someone who either uses or makes investments in Bitcoin can be called a Bitcoiner. Even though I feel like there should be a different word for this because it doesn't sound like the best.

Bitcoinist sounds completely off, it almost makes it sound like the person is running Bitcoin or has control over it, or teaches Bitcoin, etc., but it doesn't sound like it can be used to call a person who either uses or makes investments in Bitcoin.
So, conclusively, I would rather go with Bitcoiner than Bitcoinist because the first word sounds much better for this instance.

No! It doesn't. I was thinking "Bitcoinology or Bitcoining" goes well, lol, but it doesn't make sense at all. Like you already said, there is no specific word for it as of now but am thinking of deriving a word for it.


It sounds not right to you because you have not been using it and your brain have only gotten used to one word which is Bitcoiner.

Those other two names you mentioned are cool and doesn't sound strange. If you add the suffix "preneur" to a nouns, whether the word is in the dictionary or not, it will still make sense and add a different meaning to the nouns word and make it cool and easy to understand the topic of discussion. For example, bluntzy-preneur will make you think that I have the mindset or spirit of an entrepreneur.

We probably need to consult a lexicographer or an etymology specialist or any language oriented professional regarding this one because this isn't something that's really easy to talk about or decide despite being such a simple question, that's just my opinion though so take it with a grain of salt. Another thing I'd like to point out is that regarding this issue of which one is the right one, I'd probably say that you're better off speaking what you're most comfortable with, it's not like the Gods of language is going to be striking you down when you say what you think is the wrong one, language is a construct so there's really no rules about pronunciation, just say what you're most comfortable and you'd eventually notice that people don't give a fuck about how you pronounce it.

Since no word existed on it's own, someone could at any time coin a word for his or her personal use and maybe eventually if it caught people's attention and it's agreed upon or accepted then it could be included in thr dictionary.

If eventually we agree to use any of the below whether bitcoin-ist or bitcoiner which is already accepted it will be added to the dictionary.

I definitely will pick bitcoiner but we all have different perspectives or views of everything so some could choose Bitcoin-ist which is also good.

I would like to suggest something different that nobody has suggested here which is; The study of bitcoin should be called Bitcoinology and someone who studied Bitcoinology should be called Bitcoinologist  8)

I would go with Bitcoiner, I got used being called that way or crypto earner, I don't really care much about it.
For me it is all the same, we are earning in crypto or working with crypto currency, that's all that matter to me, I don't care what other people thinks or call me, I am earning no matter what they say.

A teacher can do teaching but a physicist is not doing physics, he does things related to physics, he ** insert verb*** physics, just as a motorcyclist is not doing motorcycles, he drives/crashes/races/ etc them. There are of course exceptions but usually this is how it goes, and since you can't do Bitcoin, normally bitcoinist would be the choice, but well.. er things sound better and easier, flipper, youtuber... stoner  ;D

It is only the professionals in English language that will be able to tell the correct one to use but basically, I do not care about English language because I did not study it and so I believe that English language is for effective communication, and communication is complete when the person you are speaking to understands you. If I use English language wrongly and the person, I am speaking to is still able to understand me, I have still communicated. Bitcoiner or bitcoinist does not really matter which is the proper language for use, if it is too confusing, you can simply say Bitcoin enthusiast.

I think it's not important that what we call a Bitcoin expert rather than what's important is when we should give someone this title. One should have very good technical and non technical skills in order to be called as Bitcoinist.

If we don't focus on this every second person will call himself a Bitcoinist and sell his course to trap newbies and earn money.

Having gotten used to the word bitcoiner overtime, the word bitcoinist sounds strange to my hearing even though the
ist makes some sense as found in other conventional words.

Perhaps as we progress and bitcoin gains more larger acceptance even into the academic community to be studied as a discipline or field with different scopes (in theory and technical), we will be addressing academicians that study bitcoin to specialized in bitcoin as bitcoinist.

In as much as for now bitcoin is not studied as a an accredited course in schools (am open to correction if its already has),  I think it's fair  stick to the word bitcoiners as users instead of bitcoinist as one who specializes in the study as a profession.

Bitcoinology?
The industry is called blockchain industry which may be best to name after it like blockchainology?  ;D

There are tons of people who are already using the term Bitcoiner even the users who are not in this forum. There is never a real term for this one but whatever comes around I think will do as people always adopt what's being coined. When I register to one of the casinos as Bitcoiner, it's always taken. Somebody must have been using this as username over and over.

I think it depends on the context and the user.

Bitcoin-er like you said is the most commonly used by people when trying to depict someone who invests in bitcoin or an enthusiast, so I b lie e majority would prefer using Bitcoin-er.

Bitcoin-ist on the other hand, I believe sounds a lot more professional, although not commonly used but way more cooler and professional.

The suffix "ology" is mostly used when denoting a field of study, I believe the term "Bitcoin-ology" could be used in state the study of Bitcoin.
Although it doesn't sound as cool as bitcoin-ist and bitcoin-er but I think it'll do just fine.

So how about instead of "Bitcoinology or Bitcoining" which doesn't make sense,  the study of Bitcoin is been called "Bitcology", as this actually sounds cool and makes more sense (i.e Bitco = Bitcoin, and Logy = the study of). Because I think this combination should be the perfect match if we are to unanimously present a word suitable for describing what the study of Bitcoin should be called. However, from the comments above, it clearly shows "Bitcoiner" have been chosen as the suitable word for for a Bitcoin investor, which is not new, as many of us are familiar with that word.

Everyone has the right to be called in any call sign as a bitcoin holder or investor, and everyone can claim themselves as a bitcoin holder or investors, but of course it is not easy for everyone to actually do good in bitcoin because it is a very important for a so called bitcoiner to have the proper knowledge and skills in order to earn or have a profit in doing bitcoin, anyway no matter what called or call sign a bitcoiner in the end the most important is that everyome will know that you do bitcoin and it really helps you so that many people will become more interested in bitcoin and be attracted to do bitcoin. But for me Its better or sounds better to hear "bitcoiner" than "bitcoinist" its more pleasant to hear and more good as a title or to be called, and it will be an honor to be called one.

Bitcoiner sounds like a fanbase. It’s like fan name of celebrities. For Justin Bieber: Beliebers. One direction: Directioners. and many more. It sounds like as if we only follow and worship bitcoin.
On the other hand this sounds a lot more professional and knowledgeable. Like Economist or technologist. It sounds like it was really studied and thought about carefully.

Bitcoinology or Bitcoinism  ;D

I read the best reply from the starting comments on this post and I must say that while bitcoiner sounds like a professional point of view or should I say one that invest or trade Bitcoin, a bitcoinist sounds more specific like an investor whose only interest of investment in cryptocurrency is Bitcoin, not shitcoin, not altcoins.
Just like we have extremist or terrorist or fascist, a bitcoinist is a die hard investor with absolute believe in the existence and returns of Bitcoin.

I'm not very fluent in English and I'm definitely not an expert when it comes to grammar, vocabulary and meanings of certain words.
I'm seen many people using the word "Bitcoiner" but so far I have never seen anyone in the crypto world using the term "Bitcoinist".
I understand that the term "Bitcoiner" is being used as a short form of the terms "Bitcoin enthusiast" or "Bitcoin supporter", but this seems kinda cringe to me. Bitcoin is just a currency/financial asset and I don't know why we should attach certain words to the investors/supporters of BTC. The people who invest in gold aren't called "Golders" or "Goldists". Why would the Bitcoin investors be called -ers or -ists?
I like the term "Bitcoin bro" or "Crypto bro", even though I don't use it. ;D

Bitcoin is not up to two decades and English language has been there for many years, so I am not surprised that English dictionary don't have provision for bitcoinist or bitcoiner. Bitcoin took the world by surprise and till tomorrow may people are still trying to figure it out. But with regular and continuous usage of the word bitcoiners for some who is bitcoin enthusiast and bitcoinist for the professional study of bitcoin, won't be bad. If it's continually use henceforth, it can be globally adopted and hopefully one day English dictionary can recognize it and put out it into their revised edition. Those words ain't really that bad, they actually sounds sweet in the ear when you listen to someone pronouncing it.

I am thinking about Bitcoinist = Bitcoin Enthusiast.

Quite far from the combination but sounds the same, right? It's a good topic but anything that you can call a Bitcoin guy will be recognized and isn't really a problem at all.

Bitcoiner, bitcoinist, bitcoin investor, or even a HODLER. They've got all the same meaning for us.

If we're choosing between Bitcoiner and Bitcoinist, I'm definitely on the side of the first option. That's because -er and -or usually signify that it's a person that's doing something: employer, buyer, investor, etc. On the other hand, -ist has a lot of negative connotations that are related to accusations of people wronging others on the basis of certain social identities: racist, sexist, ageist, etc.
I can see that there are different arguments in the thread (like physicist, archaeologist, etc.), though, and it's also a fair point.
As for the study, I agree with those who are suggesting Bitcoinology.

Haha, Nice, Op presented a whole theory on using the word with the proper suffix, er, and ist any chat GPT says
and TBH, I'm now fluent in Bitcoiner terms please OP, haha avoid such theories, anyway Op this has some deep meaning but mostly people just invest and make holdings so its appropriate according to deep theory as well to use the word Bitcoiner frequently, but if someone is in love with subject Bitcoin he can use it by every mean.

There was a thread that I have made before about Certified Bitcoin Professional (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5461597.0).
This can be another call for the right name to be used if someone is addressing a person who's involved in Bitcoin but not all of us are professional and this kind of title requires to pass on an assessment or exam.

I don't like these terminologies very much, so I just prefer to call it a Bitcoin investor, Bitcoin enthusiast or Bitcoin adopter. I think it sounds and looks more formal and harmonious to my ears and my eyes.

Bitcoin is an element of study which embraces Economics, Technology and Cryptography. It's not a sole science, so I don't think the study of Bitcoin can have its own personal nomenclature. It's a niche of cryptocurrencies's field, which can be inside the subjects of an Economics' course, for an example. Maybe a name for the subject like "Digital Currencies" looks fine.

If there are any graduated economists around, would you postgraduate in cryptocurrencies' area? Or does it look another shady attempt to milk money from online coaches?