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Have anyone noticed that the reason why some persons post go off the topic is because they don't read the entire op writing before they reply to a thread, some persons respond to a thread based on the caution of the topic and that is why we meet up different opinions or suggestions that is not in lines what the OP points of view.

Secondly, when someone have written what you want to write in same thread you have to give off, instead of making a pointless point, I know very well that many users in forum make off topic because what I outlined.

I can see many Rollbit participants trying eagerly not to get removed by your campaign manager as he wants to reshuffle, but it is better you bring a very good topic.

Repetitive posts are not an off-topic posts but they are not worth it at all. Most threads on this forum supposed to be locked before page 2. This would be able to solve repetitive posts.

Possibly. But a topic becomes off topic when its literally as it is. Meaning not related to forum or not in the appropriate section and hence not related to "Bitcoin" and "cryptocurrency".

Mostly topic that are out of subject related to blockchain. If a user comment to that thread it will automatically go on off topic if that one move to that section.

There are a couple of reasons why that could happen, another person can post something similar while they were still typing. Some users also do this to complete their post quota or get merits.

You could quote the posts or list their usernames. So users are already tagged in this regard and you can tag them to be added to actmyname’s  Spammer Blacklist [The Shitlist] (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4440941.0)

Not quite uncommon to be honest, I've seen it happen on larger threads, some of mine included, with users quoting the starting post when something else is being discussed in the latest replies, and they go, posting something completely irrelevant with the rest of the discussion. The issue is that it's not only new accounts doing this but also higher-ranked ones. I understand that it may happen, either because you read something wrong and understood something different, or because, as someone already mentioned, you were typing at the same time with another user. However, some users intentionally don't bother reading, and put in the minimum attempt to contribute to the discussion.

It's best to simply report such replies and get them removed, as other users may go ahead and reply and derail the discussion even further.

You can also discover that after a person makes an off topic post of which he has no idea on the subject matter in consideration, the experienced members correct such user and he also feels bad and the next think you will deduce is from the perception of being bullied by the old members, you can imagine that if everyone of us are posting off topic, the entire forum will just be full of spammers, that is why each boards has its own area of discussion as the case may applies to what we can be able to contribute over there.

It is normal to see this anywhere on the internet. I too am guilty of this so I try to re-read after hitting the post button. Sometimes, I can't believe that I wrote rubbish, I'll then edit and rewrite.  

This is the comment left by Poker Player on one user's profile - He writes generic posts that at first glance have something to do with what is being discussed but are pure garbage.

Some forum members don't take their time to read the discussion before hitting the reply button and then write off point. They end up writing gibberish even when they seem to be writing a whole lot of words. This makes the discussion to lack the needed and engagement that it needs.

Yeah, you're right, but from what I've seen, this happens in some of those who are in campaigns. Perhaps they want to rush to complete their daily post, so when they see the title of a post that interests to them, they'll just respond to it without going through all the articles just to meet up with their daily post. This also happens in newbies, who are eager to respond to a post or create a topic to draw attention to themselves in order to earn merit. You are going to see a newbie sharing a thread trying to educate people on the topic that they don't have the idea of and they don't like doing research in or outside the forum, and they constantly want to contribute to the forum.

Obviously OP you have a good point but your post lacks quality from my perspective but maybe not in others perception. It's not well constructed but it's surely passing an information.

Sometimes I don't blame people for making off topics post in a thread but at the same time everyone is entitled to his or her responsibilities which means you have to read before you make a post.

Reason why I don't blame some people for off-topic post is because some people don't follow the etiquettes of the forum for creating a thread, they just type what's in their head and click post without proper reviews to ensure if it is making any sense or follow the forum standards or not.

From the above quote especially the bolded part, one should be able to write on-topic post or response just be reading the title of a thread, so where people begin to write off-topic in a thread is when the topic says some thing else and the content says another then it will have to require someone to read deeply to write an on-topic post.

For people especially newbies who will want to read more on the above you can visit this thread  Make your topic title, posts more attractive (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5182260.msg52374371#msg52374371) by @tranthidung or click on the quote to read the complete post by @theymos

Regarding the second paragraph of OP's post, some times I see paraphrased sentence in a post though I'm not excluded to it but almost everyone is included in this part but sometimes it's necessary to add at least a line or two to a post as long as you know what you're saying even though someone might have said similar thing but with your own point it could be elaborated.
Let's say @LoyceV doesn't like writing too much on a post he prefers hitting the point straight and he already responded to a thread and I'm interested in it, I can elaborate his point as long as we are saying the same thing hence I don't consider it repetition words because it brings out the real ideal of a short sentence.

We have different perspectives of things but I guess this is mine.

I got your first point but I did not get your second one, speaking of the first one, you are right, when we see a new post it has most likely not been checked by the moderator or some person who used to report it to the moderator,  so you saw a new post and made reply to it, and there is a chance that mod will move that thread to off-topic section if its not relevant, otherwise to the relevant section. I have faced this so many times, as I mostly reply on new topics and some of posts end up in sections where I don't want them to be. But that's ok.

Besides realizing the context of the post of OP, we can give some time to the post, maybe a day or when 1 or 2 pages already created we can make post on it without any worry, as 99% chance is, that topic is not going to be moved now. But the best practise is not doubt to realize the post contents, I have done this too many times and also report the post to the mods so it already end up at relevant section, so other's efforts would be saved. But still, we write what we love or like to write. So overall, no loss even if post is not counted or considered by other members as member don't visit some section so you get lesser response and replies.

First, you need to start with yourself. If you read the first and last pages of the topic, and this most often happens to the majority of users, then everything that was discussed earlier is unknown to them. This is why we see the same answers.

It’s not scary if the author’s opinion does not coincide with other opinions; this is where communication is born, and in a dispute, we get the truth. But when we respond to a topic that has ceased to be relevant already on the second page, since there simply cannot be other opinions, this is the birth of spam.

Again, if you realize this, don't do it. From everyone, we can get a great result from the cleanliness of the forum.

 The essence of making a post is to either educate or be educated from the different opinions or takes of the users but when this criteria is not met, it becomes irrelevant and as such deemed off topic. Many people rush into replying a thread without knowing head or tail of what is being discussed simply because either they want to complete post count or they just feel like adding their two cents.

Posting off topic doesn't necessarily mean that the response by some users didn't align with what the op was trying to say but it can also mean it's generic and like @Cryptoaddictchie pointed, it just doesn't make sense.

One thing I’ve come to realize in the forum is that, we all have our ways of reasons and different opinions about a particular subject matter and at every case scenario, I always try to see reasons with what people are thing to say.
Personally, I think one major reason a post can be deleted by a moderator is if the post is most a one line off topic post or a one word comment which didn’t making a many meaningful contributions to the very subject matter.

At some point, you also have to realize that, here is a forum and a community with diversed opinions and group of persons with different languages and cultures and there are people who English isn’t there official language and you shouldn’t expect such persons express themselves same way with someone who is already proficient in English does.

In conclusion, post are mostly deleted by moderators if they don’t meet a certain criteria.

I also see why my posts are sometimes deleted by themselves without notification in email, apparently posts from new threads by the creator if they are not busy with visits and even worse are deleted by the creator himself. Of course, this is very vulnerable for participants who have taken part in the signature campaign if they do not double-check that the number of previous posts is sufficient.

Now I am looking for a large number of visitors and on the other hand there are many items that can be answered and also the opportunity to ask questions and answers among forum members on various discussion topics.

I would like to remind you that there can be posts which aren't related to OP but aren't off topic either. Sometime when you find someone's reply that contain valuable information or contain irrelevant information then it's not of topic to quote that reply and share your opinions about it.

In some cases it could lead to discussions which could be off topic ones but in most cases all the discussions in a thread a relevant ones. Some of those are direct responses to OP's thread while the rest of those are responses to other posts of the thread.

When your post turns off topic, that only means one thing, your post is not on point. You are giving a discussion that is not related to the topic, or if you are making a new topic, that could also turn off topic if you are posting it in a wrong boards. But I don’t think having low valuable posts will also fall on off topic, that’s a different thing. But it’s still as useless like posting off topic, which is not appreciated by the forum members.

Actually I think is good to read well and also think well before replying to any thread so as to avoid making a wrong suggestions that is not similar to what they're discussing. However if you don't take your time to read maybe you won't even understand what the discussion is all about, most people don't read before replying to threads that is why sometimes you see them talking different thing that is not similar with what they're discussing, at this point if you want to give them correction they will see it as a humiliation.

You were right. Replying to a post or thread means that you have something valuable to say, that can benefit others as well as the author itself. But if you are doing the other way around, and is not meeting the purpose why you reply to that thread, that simply means you are going off topic. Sometimes, posting is not actually the best option, just read and try to analyze first your comprehension so that when you do such, you will hit the bird’s eye view.

Another reason why some people do that is because some of the members who start up threads use too much write up to fill up their post and some find it difficult or should I say boring to read the entire message but reply through the topic, take a good look at how short and simple your message is. You went straight to the main point.
Honestly you shouldn't blame those who write thousands of words before posting (not always necessary) they're trying to impress readers just to cause traffic on the thread and they forget that 89% of the users in the Forum don't like reading too much write up and sometimes it becomes pointless.
Off topics comes as a result of not getting the message coming from the OP, both the reader and the OP are guilty of this, desperation to get something can make members come up with off topics, like they have to meet up, get where others who came before you are like you want to rob shoulders with your seniors.

Okay, a lot of time I kinda find some reasonable answers already in the first page but this threads keeps rolling till a 10 - infinity pages yet things are repeated by high ranked members, since I have lesser experience about the forum I felt it is a norm for threads to keep haboring same answers with different tunes and paraphrased texts. I can't say I haven't done that before but from now I will only be more focused on discussing relevant issues, agreeing and disagreeing for the best. Since change begins with one, let's give it a shot.

AFAIK this a forum and an anonymous one for that matter hence there is no designated area for only high rank members to discuss or contribute on. The forum badge does not determine there knowledge but just a badge to show how far you have gone in the forum.

One can ask questions or even say something not related to a discussion based on their knowledge and they will be guided or redirected hence knowledge is being passed. What I'm tryna say is, your statement here about robbing shoulders seems too sentimental or discriminating.

Hold on brother, before you start saying things i wasn't thinking of. What I'm trying to say is that newbies most times, in other to get recognized by high ranked members in a particular thread make replies that do not really align with the topic at hand and they tend to miss out on being themselves, I'm not looking down on anybody. This place is a social space and we're all anonymous and it doesn't matter if you're fishing for merit, attention or whatever it is to grow, what is most important and appreciated is originality.

I would even dare to say that there would be fewer "bad posts" if most people read at least the first post in the thread - but a lot of members read only the title and nothing more. I know it's not easy to read all the posts in threads that are more than three pages long (not to mention the ones that are more than 5 pages long), but if you can't do that, chances are you'll write a post that's just repeating what others have written before you.

My suggestion is that if you don't want to or don't have time to read all or most of the posts, refrain from writing in threads that have a lot of pages and are also of low quality considering the topic.

In most cases, there is usually nothing else to add in "general" to a thread that is 3-5 pages long already. Any further reply will need to be specific to maybe a wrong information shared by another member in the replies or new information that has emerged about the subject. A rule of thumb I try to follow is to try and read the posts between what you are replying to and where you are posting.

As an example, I merely glanced through previous replies to yours in this case cause I am not replying to them in particular.

- Jay -

Though most of the headings of the threads are very catchy merely looking at them. But I get disappointed at times when I get to read through the write up and discover that it is actually not as interesting as the topic or the headline rather, so in such case there is really nothing to learn from it neither can one be able to contribute and respond to the thread.

Before you want to say something to the public, it's better if you do own introspection first to make sure you're not the one who does like that. It's not make sense if you suggest people to do good thing, when you're the one who do bad thing.

It's still fine if the content not as interesting as the subject, but I'm really enough with click bait subjects.

They will start by creating a new thread that asking something in their subject like "What is the best non custodial wallet for Bitcoin?", when you click the thread, actually it's full wall of text instead of a question.

I can relate to that, you would see a lot of post that are completely generic as tho the writer didn't think it through, some just repeating words that were already in the topic maybe just to complete their post slides.

It's good to take your time in reading and understanding the context of the topic before giving the response cause most people rely on the forum for quality information and it's best to honour the forum by giving them that, if you have no idea about something then you should skip and go to another topic that you have knowledge about, it's not a must to reply to every post in the forum.

Sometimes the op topic caption is already very captivating and such that some persons may have very good idea into such topics but then i think even the op sometimes should be cautioned or probably be seen as off topic because it actually is, i mean how do you explain the fact that what you are talking about has got almost nothing to do with that which the topics talk about because the topic is actually supposed to give an idea into what everything that would be discussed is most definitely going to be or look like but then some topics are much far different from that which they are talking about which actually doesn't make sense as I consider it misleading which eventually get some persons make the kind of replies they make that later turns out like they are goin off topic of which they aren't in the real sense of it.

OPs should try to make sure the content of their post do match the topic as well as what they are discussing such that a response to the topic would not lead to a much variation to what was actually intended leading to confliction of ideas and as well going off topics, i think has been the situation most times amongst most posters and the response they get.

The threads are available and we tend to pick the topics that will become interesting for us and not ruined our chances of dropping our ideas and contributions on topics that's mainly out of the picture. We're here to make contributions and not withstanding the opposite momentum. The forum is not everyone, we tend to achieve what's best for us and also with the exerted energy, not giving up. OP responsible for posting interesting topics deserves accolades because it's no simple task.

I agree with you but sometimes the title of the thread has nothing to do with the topic, so unfortunately I think sometimes people want to say something about the idea in title but after reading the topic they realize their argument has nothing to do with actual subject of the topic and instead of surrendering or changing their argument they write what they wanted to say despite being off-topic. Mainly  because of their laziness in my opinion.

Op by right your topic supposed coherent with the content so for mare looking at the topic someone supposed know or understand what you saying. When understand the topic and glance through the content then the person would have a comprehensive understanding. Another thing is that, the creators of some of those topics also create topics that are different from the content. So when they read the content and made comments, it will still be different from the topic.

As I said, the topic would have been the same or speak the same with the content but all are different. And that also contribute to the misleading comments. Though  there are some commentors that saying different things from the content but both did the same mistake.

Normally is very necessary for us to always read the rules and regulations of any thread before we make any comments because reading it very well is going to help you to know the right word to use and make your comment, although why must people always make off topic is because they didn't want to settle down and go through I thread very well before them respond, they are just after to complete their post, that is why most of us keep on making this mistake.

Some people create misleading title of the thread so they can catch the attention of the user that's why its really important for users to read the whole content of the thread so that they will not became a victim of clickbait and they post a nonsense post which is not related to the whole context of the thread.

If we see people committing mistakes and posting off topic on that thread then this is how people look at bad the way how they post. So to avoid being criticized for being out of the topic or post nonsense in a thread we should lets better read the title and the whole sentences written by OP so that we can post accurately and give our best to contribute some good post base on the topic discussed.

Sometimes the title of a post describes the entire post briefly making it more easier to understand and make replies to but that doesn’t always mean one should not read the body of the post because the main write ups may contain certain information that the title might not contain. Why are people too lazy to read a post entirely when they know off topic replies are deleted by mods, why risk your efforts for nothing when it will only take you about 5 minutes to read.

This happens because most people don’t necessarily read through other people’s replies thats why they end up making similar replies while some will ignore just to increase post count and activity or meet up signature criteria. I think that’s one of the reasons moderators were appointed to keep watch and filter out such post that are not supposed to exist.

Actually there is nothing wrong if after stating your point on a particular thread and there are still other reply or quotes that you feel needed to be corrected, perhaps you have every right to still write on that particular thread so it shouldn't be regarded as a pointless discussion or off topic, however in most cases of speaking off topic could be caused by the Op because most Op's title is normally different from there statement or the points they are trying to make and one thing about most people is that they find it very difficult reading through everything the OP has to say before making there post, so perhaps instead they prefer posting based on what the title is, that's why most thread has different dimensions of discussion, So however in regards to pointless discussion as you presume I think the best way is to align the title and message you are trying to pass together so that people will not get confused.