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Title: Judge Mellor's Judgement on Craig Wright (not) being Satoshi
Post by: MoparMiningLLC on May 20, 2024, 02:15:44 PM
The Judge has finally released his judgement and it is a trainwreck for the fraud Craig Wright.

https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/COPA-v-Wright-Judgment.pdf


Title: Re: Judge Mellor's Judgement on Craig Wright (not) being Satoshi
Post by: franky1 on May 20, 2024, 03:09:05 PM
judge acknowledged CSW is a fake, liar, fraud and forger.. as are his associates that lied for him.. this can lead to more litigations and stuff of copa sueing CSW team

judge also acknowledges the C0bra drama which, due to this judgement can be used to undo the cobra judgement
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There is one other claim which has been brought to my attention: the COBRA claim (IL-
2021-000008) in which Dr Wright sued unnamed defendants as ‘The person or persons
responsible for the operation and publication of the website www.bitcoin.org (including
the person or persons using the pseudonym ‘C0BRA’’. The claim was for infringement
of copyright in the Bitcoin White Paper. Dr Wright secured Judgment in default of
acknowledgement of service and defence by the Order of HHJ Hodge QC dated 28 June
2021, which includes an injunction preventing the defendants from infringing copyright
in the Bitcoin White Paper, whether by making the Paper available for download or in
any other way. To the extent necessary, the status of that Order can be considered at the
Form of Order hearing following hand down of this Judgment



Title: Re: Judge Mellor's Judgement on Craig Wright (not) being Satoshi
Post by: Dunamisx on May 20, 2024, 03:27:09 PM
The Judge has finally released his judgement and it is a trainwreck for the fraud Craig Wright.

https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/COPA-v-Wright-Judgment.pdf

Both him and his cohorts have been disappointed and if they will take it more unlikely for them, the second phase of trial should be opened for them all for engaging in all manners of lies and deceits, this is how things should be done, by now, if we see anyone still interested in claiming to be Satoshi Nakamoto, such a user can stage forward his reasons ands evidence, if not, then everyone should learn from this and remain silent, then desist from claiming they are Satoshi


Title: Re: Judge Mellor's Judgement on Craig Wright (not) being Satoshi
Post by: AmoreJaz on May 20, 2024, 03:40:51 PM
The Judge has finally released his judgement and it is a trainwreck for the fraud Craig Wright.
https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/COPA-v-Wright-Judgment.pdf

Both him and his cohorts have been disappointed and if they will take it more unlikely for them, the second phase of trial should be opened for them all for engaging in all manners of lies and deceits, this is how things should be done, by now, if we see anyone still interested in claiming to be Satoshi Nakamoto, such a user can stage forward his reasons ands evidence, if not, then everyone should learn from this and remain silent, then desist from claiming they are Satoshi

CSW team will learn their lessons here. But if they will still pursue the case, it will be known that they are truly losing their mind proving that he is the Satoshi. I don't know what's his real take on what's happening with this case but I believe, they really should stop right now. Or is it because they already lost their faces, hence, they are pursuing the case?

Maybe he should be slapped so many times on his face that he is not Satoshi before he accepts the fact that he is not. Or better yet, if no minions will support his cause anymore. If he is alone on this battle, maybe, he will stop his madness and rest his case.


Title: Re: Judge Mellor's Judgement on Craig Wright (not) being Satoshi
Post by: MoparMiningLLC on May 20, 2024, 04:30:34 PM
my bet is the BSV team will spin this that Mellor was and is all part of some conspiracy or that this is all part of Craig's 5d chess play.

End of the day - the judge saw CSW's lies for what they were - lies. And his technobabble, not as a superior intellect putting him above all other experts, but as a cover for his lies.


Title: Re: Judge Mellor's Judgement on Craig Wright (not) being Satoshi
Post by: Reatim on May 20, 2024, 04:46:17 PM
The Judge has finally released his judgement and it is a trainwreck for the fraud Craig Wright.
https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/COPA-v-Wright-Judgment.pdf

Both him and his cohorts have been disappointed and if they will take it more unlikely for them, the second phase of trial should be opened for them all for engaging in all manners of lies and deceits, this is how things should be done, by now, if we see anyone still interested in claiming to be Satoshi Nakamoto, such a user can stage forward his reasons ands evidence, if not, then everyone should learn from this and remain silent, then desist from claiming they are Satoshi

CSW team will learn their lessons here. But if they will still pursue the case, it will be known that they are truly losing their mind proving that he is the Satoshi. I don't know what's his real take on what's happening with this case but I believe, they really should stop right now. Or is it because they already lost their faces, hence, they are pursuing the case?
Did we ever stop to consider that maybe they are only pursuing the case because they have no other choice? They are getting paid by Craig Wright. Even if they know it’s nit the truth, they will still push it. What needs some applause here is Craig Wright. Until when is he going to play into this act?

Doesn’t he have enough of the humiliation alone already? Does he think that he can actually win this thing? And prove to everyone that he is indeed Satoshi? I aspire the level of delusion he is in.


Title: Re: Judge Mellor's Judgement on Craig Wright (not) being Satoshi
Post by: franky1 on May 20, 2024, 04:57:15 PM
Doesn’t he have enough of the humiliation alone already? Does he think that he can actually win this thing? And prove to everyone that he is indeed Satoshi? I aspire the level of delusion he is in.

he has already lost, case over.. read the link.. the judgement is in already.. game over for CSW. he is not satoshi and is a fraud.
all thats left is all those he has negatively hurt before this year can now sue him due to this judgement against him


Title: Re: Judge Mellor's Judgement on Craig Wright (not) being Satoshi
Post by: Faisal2202 on May 20, 2024, 05:02:10 PM
Both him and his cohorts have been disappointed and if they will take it more unlikely for them, the second phase of trial should be opened for them all for engaging in all manners of lies and deceits, this is how things should be done, by now, if we see anyone still interested in claiming to be Satoshi Nakamoto, such a user can stage forward his reasons ands evidence, if not, then everyone should learn from this and remain silent, then desist from claiming they are Satoshi
You are right, this act by the judicial system has made history and it will be a lesson for those, who will pretend to be Satoshi in the future. But they will also see the mistakes that CSW made so if they will claim themselves as Satoshi they won't follow the same path that CSW followed. Besides this case, I think it was only a public stunt, to gain investors, and to create a community as we all know what's the worth of a community. If you have too many followers then you are already earning money in this era.

That's what he might be up to, but as a computer scientist and businessman, I don't think he adopted a good or morale way to make money, although I still consider this way a good one to make more money. Actually he also introduced his coin as well BSV.


Title: Re: Judge Mellor's Judgement on Craig Wright (not) being Satoshi
Post by: kotajikikox on May 20, 2024, 11:15:05 PM
Besides this case, I think it was only a public stunt, to gain investors, and to create a community as we all know what's the worth of a community. If you have too many followers then you are already earning money in this era.
Unfortunately, that’s how it works in the world right now.

Any publicity even if negative is still publicity and no matter what it is that made you famous you are still famous and various media outlets and other reporters would want a word from you. Don’t even be surprised if Netflix creates a documentary of him.
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That's what he might be up to, but as a computer scientist and businessman, I don't think he adopted a good or morale way to make money, although I still consider this way a good one to make more money. Actually he also introduced his coin as well BSV.
Well satoshi had created something so wonderful and people want to own it. But they can’t and they wish it was them who had created it but they weren’t and there won’t be anything like bitcoin in the future.


Title: Re: Judge Mellor's Judgement on Craig Wright (not) being Satoshi
Post by: ABCbits on May 21, 2024, 11:44:33 AM
We already know it'll happen. But with this release, this should make csw and other fraud have harder time to falsely claim as Satoshi.

my bet is the BSV team will spin this that Mellor was and is all part of some conspiracy or that this is all part of Craig's 5d chess play.

Or simply lying that Craig is proved as Satoshi. Last time, they made lie where they falsely claim that UK claim that Satoshi created BSV.


Title: Re: Judge Mellor's Judgement on Craig Wright (not) being Satoshi
Post by: pakhitheboss on May 21, 2024, 12:07:52 PM
my bet is the BSV team will spin this that Mellor was and is all part of some conspiracy or that this is all part of Craig's 5d chess play.

End of the day - the judge saw CSW's lies for what they were - lies. And his technobabble, not as a superior intellect putting him above all other experts, but as a cover for his lies.

Everyone here who has been following the events surrounding this fraud known as faketoshi always knew about the outcome of this case. What is interesting though is that the price of BSV has not gone down, on the contrary, it has been slowly and steadily increasing again. Even though the price of BSV is down by more than 96 percent it again shows an upward trend. This indicates that fools still believe that he is the original creator of Bitcoin and that his legacy will prevail. I would love to see more cases brought against this fraud and his team so they end up in a cell, unable to access the fortune they made with fake claims.


Title: Re: Judge Mellor's Judgement on Craig Wright (not) being Satoshi
Post by: kryptqnick on May 21, 2024, 03:55:36 PM
The document has over 200 pages, so of course I didn't read all of it, but I looked through the summary, and it all sounds great. Honestly, it's refreshing to see a judge being straightforward in his statements, instead of using legal jargon without any specifics. He's talking about Wright lying repeatedly to the court about many things, with the biggest lie being that Craig is Satoshi. He also clarifies that Craig Wright isn't the author of Bitcoin whitepaper, is not the person who operated online under the name of Satoshi, and did not write early Bitcoin software.
I think most of us here have already known all that, but it's good to have it officially confirmed by an esteemed judge in a country with strong judicial standards.


Title: Re: Judge Mellor's Judgement on Craig Wright (not) being Satoshi
Post by: avikz on May 21, 2024, 04:26:05 PM
Start reading from point 924 onwards to understand the conclusions given by the Judge.

We all knew this fellow is an imposter and the Judge has confirmed the same cementing our belief. He acknowledged that Craig Wright kept on producing forged documents to support his false Statement.

I hope this fellow will now stop filing lawsuits in various courts to prove his false identity. That's not going to work anymore.


Title: Re: Judge Mellor's Judgement on Craig Wright (not) being Satoshi
Post by: Die_empty on May 21, 2024, 06:25:12 PM
The Judge has finally released his judgement and it is a trainwreck for the fraud Craig Wright.

https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/COPA-v-Wright-Judgment.pdf
I read some parts of the summary of the judgment and was pleased with how the judge described Faketoshi. He was described as a habitual liar, an unskilled forger, and an individual with low intelligence. The judgement identified how this imposter came up with conflicting lies and when he is caught he will blame unknown people for his misfortune.

All the documents he forged were poorly done making it easily identifiable doctored evidence. The judge further highlighted that from his writings and oral presentation in the court he is not close to the ingenuity of Satoshi Nakamoto. I am beginning to suspect that Craig Wright is mentally unstable. I just hope that this disgraceful judgment will end this madness.


Title: Re: Judge Mellor's Judgement on Craig Wright (not) being Satoshi
Post by: odolvlobo on May 21, 2024, 07:47:58 PM
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2. Thus, Dr Wright presents himself as an extremely clever person. However, in my judgment, he is not nearly as clever as he thinks he is. In both his written evidence and in days of oral evidence under cross-examination, I am entirely satisfied that Dr Wright lied to the Court extensively and repeatedly. Most of his lies related to the documents he had forged which purported to support his claim. All his lies and forged documents were in support of his biggest lie: his claim to be Satoshi Nakamoto.

Woah. The judge couldn't be more direct and to the point.


Here's an unpopular opinion: None of the evidence proves that he is not Satoshi Nakamoto. It is entirely possible that he is Satoshi Nakamoto, or that he was part of or contributed in some way to a Satoshi Nakamoto team.

However, I mean "possible" in the same sense as that it is "possible" to guess a private key. ;)


Title: Re: Judge Mellor's Judgement on Craig Wright (not) being Satoshi
Post by: seoincorporation on May 21, 2024, 08:40:46 PM
Will there be a punishment for CW for this? Or any economic sanctions?

Maybe the fact that legally he is not Satoshi Nakamoto is enough punishment, but after reading parts of the paper i couldn't find any information about what would happen now, i would expect a monetary sanction for his actions, but looks like there is no punishment this time.


Title: Re: Judge Mellor's Judgement on Craig Wright (not) being Satoshi
Post by: OcTradism on May 22, 2024, 01:48:47 AM
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2. Thus, Dr Wright presents himself as an extremely clever person. However, in my judgment, he is not nearly as clever as he thinks he is.

Woah. The judge couldn't be more direct and to the point.
This is like scammers are pretty stupid while they think they are smart.

On the other hand, scammers are often pretty stupid

Thank you MoparMiningLLC for update it.

There is another thread which follows the Craig Wright case since February and it perhaps has some additional information for the discussion.
Updates from the COPA v Craig Wright trial (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5484211.0)


Title: Re: Judge Mellor's Judgement on Craig Wright (not) being Satoshi
Post by: CODE200 on May 22, 2024, 02:35:53 AM
my bet is the BSV team will spin this that Mellor was and is all part of some conspiracy or that this is all part of Craig's 5d chess play.

End of the day - the judge saw CSW's lies for what they were - lies. And his technobabble, not as a superior intellect putting him above all other experts, but as a cover for his lies.
Expect that to happen, I mean they've already double downed if not triple downed on their lies, what more if they make a more crazier if not sillier spin on the story of Faketoshi, I mean at this point, you can probably come up of your own story because of how crazy this thing is, there's that famous quote from that Nazi official about lies being repeated enough, it will eventually become the truth. Imagine if CSW weren't as knowledgeable as he had been with the technology side, I can imagine that lie would've been busted a long time ago. Good for the people to know the truth though, I think that it's high time that this shenanigans should be put to a close.


Title: Re: Judge Mellor's Judgement on Craig Wright (not) being Satoshi
Post by: BitcoinMoses on May 22, 2024, 12:24:06 PM
Lazy fox jump over the wall
Does not know when he might fall,
He is not that fool what judge may think
He is just a puppet in the bitcoin stage show
Might file an appeal tomorrow
Just to find a way to get back on the stage
Before he finally drown and sink
He could do better instead claiming to be Satoshi
Craig is not Satoshi, Satoshi and Moses, I mean Bitcoin Moses
Red yellow or pink or blue roses
Both are my pseudonyms, I am Satoshi Nakamoto
I am a Robot, I am not alone !  I have twin brother and a Grand Father, his name is Nagasaki Nagahito.

Time is coming soon
Bitcoin will go to moon
Craig will go on hide
Beyond the forest in a jungle side
He might say sorry again as he did before
Or more and more,

'What we need is move forward with my original Bitcoin manifesto.'

Just you all code and improve Bitcoin until it become the real money for all the world. Until all the government adopt Bitcoin Standard.









Title: Re: Judge Mellor's Judgement on Craig Wright (not) being Satoshi
Post by: DooMAD on May 22, 2024, 05:04:49 PM
I notice I still can't view the Bitcoin Whitepaper on bitcoin.org, though.  The link https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf currently doesn't work in the UK due to Faketoshi's pathetic little games.  Hopefully that will change soon now that the pantomime has come to an end.

Speaking of unhinged lunatics who aren't worth the oxygen they waste on a daily basis, I hope everyone has the above user BitcoinMoses (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=955818) on 'ignore'.  This user will never contribute anything of value to these boards.  Just as loopy as Wright and (somehow) makes even less sense.


Title: Re: Judge Mellor's Judgement on Craig Wright (not) being Satoshi
Post by: shield132 on May 25, 2024, 10:28:23 AM
I was checking an article on Cointelegraph about Who is the mysterious Bitcoin creator Satoshi Nakamoto? (https://cointelegraph.com/learn/who-is-satoshi-nakamoto-the-creator-of-bitcoin) and I discovered that Craig Wright is listed as the possible identities of Satoshi Nakamoto (btw if you ask me, I always imagined Satoshi looks exactly like Dorian Nakamoto). Now since it's officially proven (it was always proved) that Craig Wright is not Satoshi, can someone reach to Cointelegraph and ask them to update their article? This man doesn't deserve to stand next to Dorian, Finney and Szabo and shouldn't even be considered as the possible identity of a genius man.

https://talkimg.com/images/2024/05/25/LSXzg.png

I notice I still can't view the Bitcoin Whitepaper on bitcoin.org, though.  The link https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf currently doesn't work in the UK due to Faketoshi's pathetic little games.  Hopefully that will change soon now that the pantomime has come to an end.
You were a little early. The next day, after your post, Cobra officially announced on his Twitter that Bitcoin Whitepaper is not available for download for UK people - https://x.com/cobrabitcoin/status/1793711778855284748



Title: Re: Judge Mellor's Judgement on Craig Wright (not) being Satoshi
Post by: God bless u on May 25, 2024, 12:00:51 PM
The Judge has finally released his judgement and it is a trainwreck for the fraud Craig Wright.

https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/COPA-v-Wright-Judgment.pdf
I don't get it why they're still trying hard to prove themselves innocent in this case as we all know that their market reputation is destroyed and all the sensible traders will never trust on them again. We will not take part in any of the project they'll launch so that cheaters can get a lesson.

It doesn't effect how valuable the project will be we will not take part in it until and unless they come and apologize on media. They have to return the losses people have made then they'll get their selves free.


Title: Re: Judge Mellor's Judgement on Craig Wright (not) being Satoshi
Post by: DooMAD on May 25, 2024, 12:59:30 PM
I notice I still can't view the Bitcoin Whitepaper on bitcoin.org, though.  The link https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf currently doesn't work in the UK due to Faketoshi's pathetic little games.  Hopefully that will change soon now that the pantomime has come to an end.
You were a little early. The next day, after your post, Cobra officially announced on his Twitter that Bitcoin Whitepaper is not available for download for UK people - https://x.com/cobrabitcoin/status/1793711778855284748

That's the software, though.  The Whitepaper itself is still inaccessible for me on that link.  I just get redirected to a page quoting:
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It takes advantage of the nature of information being easy to spread but hard to stifle. - Satoshi Nakamoto

I have my own mirror of the Whitepaper, so it's not an issue for me, but the sooner it's once again available on bitcoin.org, the better.


Title: Re: Judge Mellor's Judgement on Craig Wright (not) being Satoshi
Post by: franky1 on May 25, 2024, 11:43:11 PM
so, anyways. there will be a "form of order" hearing on the 6th of june which will discuss things like:
the compensation to COPA for the legal costs of the case
if the other active cases should be dismissed, withdrawn or proceed
if previous settled cases need to be reversed
and most importantly, if there is such evidence of criminal fraud that CSW should be passed over to the crown prosecution service for criminal investigation/charges


Title: Re: Judge Mellor's Judgement on Craig Wright (not) being Satoshi
Post by: Maus0728 on May 26, 2024, 01:55:07 AM
Finally, if a judge finalizes this on paper, we can now all troll CSW for claiming to be Satoshi, probably the worst of things for him to continue the lie that he is Satoshi is just far too preposterous.

Hopefully his supporters would finally stop with all the fervor about him being Satoshi, he was asked for the proofs and evidences of his identity but he was never able to present it, what did he expect? That people would take his word for it. This is a classic example of an exploitative businessman that doesn't know any better and only sees bitcoin as a way for him to take advantage of other people not profit from it.

Really awesome too that COPA will be compensated for all the headaches that was given to them by this charlatan, I guess another big win for bitcoin and hopefully we can expect the price to be affected by this news in a positive way.


Title: Re: Judge Mellor's Judgement on Craig Wright (not) being Satoshi
Post by: ABCbits on May 26, 2024, 09:14:38 AM
I was checking an article on Cointelegraph about Who is the mysterious Bitcoin creator Satoshi Nakamoto? (https://cointelegraph.com/learn/who-is-satoshi-nakamoto-the-creator-of-bitcoin) and I discovered that Craig Wright is listed as the possible identities of Satoshi Nakamoto (btw if you ask me, I always imagined Satoshi looks exactly like Dorian Nakamoto). Now since it's officially proven (it was always proved) that Craig Wright is not Satoshi, can someone reach to Cointelegraph and ask them to update their article? This man doesn't deserve to stand next to Dorian, Finney and Szabo and shouldn't even be considered as the possible identity of a genius man.

Cointelegraph is known for clickbait and inaccurate information detail, so it's not that surprising they list CSW in that article. In addition, that article was last updated on Mar 4, 2024, where by then CSW already lose to Holdonaut and on-going fight CSW against COPA already shows many proof that CSW is lying. At this point, i'd just advise other member to fully avoid Cointelegraph.


Title: Re: Judge Mellor's Judgement on Craig Wright (not) being Satoshi
Post by: Foxpup on May 27, 2024, 05:56:04 AM
I don't get it why they're still trying hard to prove themselves innocent in this case as we all know that their market reputation is destroyed and all the sensible traders will never trust on them again.
Because this case ultimately isn't about CSW's reputation. It's ultimately about CSW's massive tax evasion scheme, which is what initially led CSW to claim to be Satoshi and which is about to all fall apart now that said claim has been proven to be fraudulent.

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803. Dr Wright’s dealings with the ATO [Australian Taxation Office] formed a significant part of his life from 2010 to 2016, and they were important to his finances. Indeed, in August 2014, the ATO estimated that 94% of the income he had received in the previous two years had come from tax refunds to his companies {ATO Submission at {L9/274/9}, [36]}. This forms the backdrop for Dr Wright in 2015 needing money and receiving a bailout which involved him staking a claim to be Satoshi.

Make sure you've got enough popcorn, because this isn't over yet.


Title: Re: Judge Mellor's Judgement on Craig Wright (not) being Satoshi
Post by: Lucius on May 27, 2024, 10:40:23 AM
Cointelegraph is known for clickbait and inaccurate information detail, so it's not that surprising they list CSW in that article. In addition, that article was last updated on Mar 4, 2024, where by then CSW already lose to Holdonaut and on-going fight CSW against COPA already shows many proof that CSW is lying. At this point, i'd just advise other member to fully avoid Cointelegraph.

I've been saying this for years, ever since we fought against their shills on this forum, but some people obviously have very low criteria when it comes to quality and accurate information. Faketoshi will obviously always have a place in their articles no matter which court declares him a simple fraud - but it still seems to sell the news well.



Finally, if a judge finalizes this on paper, we can now all troll CSW for claiming to be Satoshi, probably the worst of things for him to continue the lie that he is Satoshi is just far too preposterous.
~snip~


Did someone need a court order to troll that faker? It was clear to everyone that he was lying since 2016, except of course some "great" minds like Gavin and others like him who had doubts for years (and maybe they still have them today).


Title: Re: Judge Mellor's Judgement on Craig Wright (not) being Satoshi
Post by: God bless u on May 27, 2024, 10:47:11 AM
The Judge has finally released his judgement and it is a trainwreck for the fraud Craig Wright.

https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/COPA-v-Wright-Judgment.pdf
Ahhh a sense of confidence and charm hits one's mind whenever these kind of liars are sentenced. They have ruined the whole market. Newbies are very much disturbed when the get themselves caught into the scams even before they have made a single cent into Crypto world.

This creates a lack of confidence for them and they think that the whole market is full of fraudulent people but that's not true there are still people with proper trading and mentorship skills available.


Title: Re: Judge Mellor's Judgement on Craig Wright (not) being Satoshi
Post by: Faisal2202 on May 27, 2024, 05:41:31 PM
Well satoshi had created something so wonderful and people want to own it. But they can’t and they wish it was them who had created it but they weren’t and there won’t be anything like Bitcoin in the future.
If the public is buying it then they (the outlets) will sell it, even if the public doesn't want to buy it, they will still sell it because they sell without selling, they sell on the basis of mind manipulation. They show you ads, they keep you in an environment where you keep watching them again and again and you once start to talk about them. Then you once do a search there you go. Now there is no way back from it.

I have seen a lot of people spending their time and following nonsense people with nonsense goals. But what these followers don't understand is they are consumers, and consumers don't make money, while the producers do, and producers are the ones who manipulate them for there own benefit. Speaking of wish to become satoshi is really a good one, everybody wants to earn money now, as some see it as a money-making scheme, and many are even making money.