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OK, so, sometime last week, a friend of mine got so lucky with his sports betting that he kept winning all his bets, he said himself that he wasnt even sure of some of the games he bets on but he somehow still won it, and according to him, after winning ten times in a row consecutively, the casino placed a limit on the amount of money he can bet in a game, he said he was betting around $500 or more each time, but after being limited, he can't bet more than $10, he got agree and decided to open another account on the same casino (his first mistake), then withdrew all the money on the first account, and deposited exactly the same amount on his second newly created account (his second mistake), and then placed his first bet, and when he came back to check, he discovered that both accounts has been banned, it turned out that immediately his bet on the second account won, the account was banned together with the first one, he's been talking with the casino customer care to atleast allow him withdraw his money, but they said they won't allow him access to the money until after 365 days, that this is a punishment for what he did, and because they don't want to forfiet his money, he must wait, and come back after one year to withdraw his money.

Now, I just want to ask us, if you own a casino, and a particularly customer is always winning, winning and winning, would you kick/ban the customer, or limit him or her?
And why please?

Why do casinos limit or ban a user when he or she is winning too much, but do not do the same when the user is losing too much as well?

Casinos limit a customer when they keep winning because they dislike them. In order to be loved by a casino, you need to be a loser; that's the simple logic behind it. They are running a business, and their interest is profit, so they'll limit someone who keeps winning. They have the right to do that since it's their casino, and they set their own rules.

What your friend did was wrong; it's called "multi-accounting," and that is against the TOS. They can forfeit the funds and ban the account. He is even lucky that he was given one year, but I doubt the casino is telling the truth as 1 year is too much, tell him don't expect anymore.

It's obvious?

You own a casino, casino make money from gambler losses and casino are in loss if the gambler keep winning.

Kick and ban the customer is really normal if the gambler broke the terms, while limit the account is also normal since you, as the casino don't want to bankrupt.

Why the casino need to limit or ban someone who keep losing, losing a lot money doesn't broke any rules.

He is so lucky that the casino gave him 1 year to wait until he can get his money.

Yes I will limit his account to bet with small amount of money.

Because I create the casino for customers to enjoy my games and not me losing money to customers.

Casinos are paying workers, running servers and also paying for maintenance and other things for their customers to enjoy.

Yeah, indeed, he is very lucky since the casino would have just taken the money back, and block him access to them and that's all.

😂 Let me say for like two to three months now or even more, this is actually one of the funniest replies I've come across on this board, I am here laughing really hard, and as funny as this is, I do not dispute the truth and sincereity in it.

But for the sake of further arguments (which makes dicussions more interesting by the way) some one will want to ask, why did you create a casino, monitized the games if you do not have intentions of losing money to gamblers?

As far as I know, the gambling industry has certain rules that have been set for its customers. If I owned a casino and saw that one of the users was a loyal customer, of course I would not do something silly and harm him, unless: the user violates the agreed terms, maybe I will act to do something to overcome my casino losses.

However, in general, as far as I know, there are no casinos that let their users win and win continuously, the casino will not let that happen, as far as I know, casinos have operators who can control every game in the casino itself.

Gambling winning depends on luck so if someone has good luck and keeps winning then it is not desirable for any reputable casino site to kick him from the site or ban him for his achievement. Every casino site has a ToS outside of which no site works and if a site works against its ToS it is called cheating and also called a scam. I don't know which site your friend gambled on and from which site he was treated like this. Normally I don't think any big and reputable casino site would do that. And if I own a casino site. Then I would never do it. We will always operate the site based on the ToS. If one has good luck and keeps winning then it is a big achievement for him. Special congratulations to him from the site for this.  So that he is more attracted to gambling

That is the intention of gambling sites. If I want to have my own casino, I will create it because of my own profit. No casino or other gambling site will have other reasons to create a gambling site than making profit. It is just the truth  ;D

Probably I do not know what you mean as monetize here because I do not see ads or any means of casinos advertising other sites. Or maybe I do not understand what you mean as monetize.

Your friend must have been so lucky to beat the house its quite rare but if I'm the casino and I have a player like that I prefer to limit than totally ban him because now that he tasted winning huge he will always want more, that's the mindset of gamblers and he will eventually lose.

If you ban the player and the reason is he keeps winning, the player might file a complaint and this is not good for the reputation of the casino.

There are no players who can keep winning there will be a point that he will suffer losses and worse is he loses money that he had won, casino operators knows how a gambler think so I prefer to keep him hoping and I'm sure he will eventually experience losses.

The answer is simple, it is because the casinos are out to make business or will I say that they are out to take your money and if they find out that a customer is taking more than expected from them, the will limit you so that you don't make them go bankrupt. From what you explained, it didn't show that there was any bug, everything is intact with their system and this was why they limited him to a very small amount to bet with. That is why I feel pity for gamblers who think that they can have a strategy to keep on winning. The casino will not allow that to happen. I believe all casinos have this orientation too.

Of course we need to see his gambling activity first, to prove that he is playing well enough and not cheating, we need to monitor his account activity first before banning or stopping or kicking, if there is fraud then it is natural for me the casino owner to block his account or kick him out of the casino because he has cheated.

But if he wins continuously without any mistakes in my opinion, what is the right reason to kick him out? of course it will be a bad image for the casino owner to do this to his customers who have no fault in their gambling activities, I will certainly continue to keep him active.

Just winning should never be a reason for limiting user from betting on a casino. A legit casino would never do that. A probability is, the casino might have restricted the account to $10 in order to investigate previous wins which might have been suspicious and on that time, the user created a second account to carry on with betting. A second account from the same person is forbidden in many casinos and even on the casinos that allow multiple accounts, they'll not let you do that if your account is under investigation. It's unprofessional to make the user wait a year for giving back the deposited money. Maybe its taking more time to investigate but it don't take a year to find if a user is cheating or not.

And why please?
I do no own a casino or related gambling platform but only being a gambler but why I would think the casino took such action is because they felt the consecutive winning of the gambler could be as a leakage of the insider maybe the bookies or developers just to run the company down for selfish interest. It could also be that the company is afraid that if the gambler continues winning, they might not be able to pay the winning prize so to maintain a good reputation, they have to limit the gambler from staking higher amount so as to limit his winning prizes too .

The guy was banned not because of his excessive winnings but because he violated the casinos policies where a gambler is expected to own just one account per gambler. So trying to claim smart your friend or whoever trying to manoeuvre the policy but got caught and penalized for breaking the rules.

Not all casinos will cheat like that, and there are several factors that cause casinos to lower the bet limit on certain account.
Maybe the user is suspected of arb betting, or the user has bet on matches that are suspected to be fixed matches or the user only bets on matches with low odds below 1.1x, etc.
And Im pretty sure your friend often or only bets on minor leagues or esports.

How do you know that a reputed casino will never do that? You played a game ten times and you won all and you think the casino you are playing will not restrict your account to certain level? I want to know if you are correct about this by asking you this question: Have you won before while playing game on a casino and won 10 times consecutively? If no, that means you just give your own opinion but which may not be right.

I have heard of people saying gambling sites are restricting account of a gambler if making profit than usual. I do not know if it is true, but this is another one which makes me think it is true again. Not ones or twice or three times that I have been hearing and reading about this.

He really made a mistake because there are countless casinos that he can visit online to gamble. Both crypto and fiat casinos.

Nope, it's a normal thing.

If the casino want to investigate previous wins, they will not allow you to withdraw or you will be asked to submit KYC. The casino want to limit someone else account because they can't accept to loss and if this keep continue, they might going to bankrupt.

It's why there are few professional gamblers asking to bet behalf of them since their accounts had been limited.

business-wise I'd do the same since it is one of the best ways to minimize losses(at least from what I have read), but personally, as long as the gambler doesn't cheat, there's really no reason to ban or limit the gambler.

from what I have read in the past, they do this to minimize losses. As for the gamblers who lose too much, casinos love them, they are the ones that keep the casino up and running. if I remember correctly if you are in a brick-and-mortar casino and you lose a lot of money, the casino would give you a kind of "cashback" as a token of appreciation for playing in their casino.

Some casino use their ToS as reason to confiscate winnings or take advantage against winning players. Does the casino indicate that multiple account is not allowed in the casino because if there’s no written rules about multiple account then casino should release the fund.

Casino will surely ban, restrict or kick a player that is not profitable since they are business after all. Most importantly every casino has a special line in their ToS giving them power to do the what I mention to any user without further explanation.


They are business, they need to protect their business.

Casinos make money, not give it away. They hope to win more than they lose over time using statistical probability. High rollers disturb this balance by winning consistently. Imagine a poker game where one player wins everything. It evokes distrust, right? Are they cheating? Are they simply blessed? Same for casinos. They're not accusing anyone of cheating, but they're leery of consistent winners. A risk management plan to defend their bottom line

Why don't casinos limit losing players? The answer is easy. Casinos thrive on losing players. The casino gains from their losses. Casinos are not charities. Businesses meant to make money. They give benefits and freebies to return lost players in hopes that they'll change their luck around and start paying the casino

Is it ethical for casinos to limit or ban winners? Do players have to recognize gambling's risks? Should casinos do more to level the playing field? I don't judge. I'm reporting facts. Gambling is complicated and regulated. Each person choose whether to participate, knowing the odds are always in favor of the house

Are you sure about that? No matter how legit the casino is when they see someone that is not good for their business the best thing that they can do is to limit the user to some extent that way they can minimize their losses and still retain the user. We have seen it in the past where users were limited for winning too much on a site, it wasn’t because they cheated or did anything wrong and even betnomi rep said the same thing concerning a case were a gambler was limited.


It has already been proven (in the case of the op) they know that both accounts are connected but as a punishment for going against the ToS of the system they decided to hold the funds in the account for a year - in some cases that money would have been gone since Op friends was looking for a way to bypass the limitation they placed on him in their site.

I'm going to go ahead and say that the limitation could be an indication that his account was under investigation, even though he was still able to bet. It's safe to say that winning 10 times in a row without a single loss in between is suspicious, and on the one hand, it's reasonable because he could be taking advantage of fixed matches. I'm not supporting the casino; I'm just stating that we should also check the other side of the coin, as there's a decent chance it's actually happening, as a few users suggested in a previous thread of mine regarding fixed matches in third-world countries.

He dug himself there by opening another account, which may have been a TOS violation. He'll be lucky if his money is actually released in a year from now.

Just to chime in on this discussion, Technically, Casino is not the one restricting the players to bet but rather the sportsbook provider since casino is just using sportsbook platform to offer bets to players. But those kicking and banning is on the casino side since it’s related on being off-limits to the casino itself and not the sportsbook alone.

I managed to win 10+ winning streak before but I didn’t experience being restricted. I think it’s all about the amount you are winning and typically sportsbook provider tracks user progress from different casino that’s why if they are already restricted to one casino then most probably will be restricted too on new casino after winning few bets since sportsbook provider will flag them. I believe this is the case on why some user experience being restricted immediately after winning consecutively on few bets.

I will be honest here and if I were a casino owner then yes I would surely limit a user who has been winning continuously.
Why ? because I am running a business here and I won't want to go end up in huge losses.
Also, may be the user has found some technique to abuse the system and so I would want to make sure such people are restricted from placing huge bets.
I find it pretty normal from a casino owner's point of view. I know this doesn't sound so good from the gambler's perspective but this is how it should be.

I heard some offline casino do this before, i'm talking about the limiting, but getting banned is overboard decision. This might happen (limiting) for average size of casino, but those who have huge bankroll will less to do it, while those casinos who are selective scamming (tainted reputation) will probably create fault for its users, ban  them and seize their balance for good.

They’re more of casino rules we don’t actually know until we get to experience one, concerning consistent winning with no losses I think it sound strange as I don’t know if any casino will willingly allow that without any restriction. I’m thinking if the user in question cheat because it’s impossible for any gambler winning endless or such user is just too lucky, casinos are meant to investigate first from my opinion before giving any restrictions or else giving a user restrictions without knowing if the user is involved in any cheating activity while gambling is not right, although casinos will definitely make their money regardless looking at the numbers of gamblers placing bet daily and not everyone will gain so they’ll still make their income. Creating another account by the user is so wrong because it shows how desperate the user is which is so wrong, personally I can’t act so desperate with any casino site so i fully support the ban for the user.

A casino is after all a business that someone created in order to make profit for himself, so basically it is so logical that some casinos would limit or ban a player if they notice his consecutive wins.

Your friend here did a big mistake by creating another account in the first place, I mean the way you described it seems like your friend here is too greedy and not satisfied of the amount of money he's winning. If he just sticked to the casino's bet limit, it would've been better for him at least he would still win some cash even though it is not as big as before but it is better than getting banned without being able to take out your money for a whole year.

 No matter how or what you do, casinos always win more even with a max win. To be honest if I ever had the chance to open my own casino, I'd act the same way, maybe I would put a limit on certain wins and max wins, because simply it is a business and you expect to earn money by that business and not making a charity out of it.

According to the rules, users cannot be banned if they continue to win thanks to their hard work in determining the right bets. However, for the second action where he creates another account at the same casino, the casino has the right to take preventive measures against the gambler. If your friend wants to prove that the casino made a mistake by limiting his account in the first case, then it is better to create an account at another casino. If you are still lucky enough to keep winning bets, then it will be easy to make a comparison between casino A and casino B.

But I am curious why the casino limits it to the first action, because this is purely a win, if the casino action violates the rules then your friend can file a lawsuit regarding this case. But unfortunately, once your friend is on the right track, why open a second account at the same casino so that the truth of the first account is clouded by the error.

I my opinion, a casino being happy that you as a gambler is making losses rather than wins is a relative analysis in the sense that if a gambler is losses not only is he running at a loss, but the casino as well as other gamblers are trailing towards a win. The reason is quite simple. It is also from the losses of some gamblers that the casino is able to fund the wins of some other gambler.
The whole stuff is also some sort of money circulation the fact is if casino is getting too frequent wins than losses that they are unable to manage , they would definitely run into loss and fold up. Likewise, if the gamblers are all losing they will end up stopping their gambling activities on that particular casino and if their are no customers the casino will also likely fold up.

Just like you said the first mistake your friend made was creating a second account with the same casino, and second was depositing the very exact amount of money he withdrew from his first to the second, and third was he gambling with his same style of game while using the same amount?
I think the fourth mistake your friend did was accessing his second account from the same device I.P address which is likely to be track

If I'm to be a casino owner, the best solution will be to limit his gambling amount just like this casino did, and if he tries to play smart and got caught, ban his account

The simple answer to your question is that casinos don't want gamblers to keep winning while they continue losing, but rather, casinos will be very glad and happy to see a gambler loses his funds while gambling. Because one big secret about casino business is that the more gamblers lose their bets, the richer the casino gets, and no casino will ever want to go bankrupt just because of a single individual who have been noticed with an IP to be winning consecutively. So that's just how the business model works.

As a casino or betting site owner then who would really be liking on someone who do constantly win or having that good winning rate? Of course none. You would definitely be trying to get rid of this guy no matter what the cost but of course it would really be needing up something that wont really be that obvious because once things turns out to be that shady on the actions they had made then it would really be making that kind of tarnish into their reputation and this is something that you wont really be liking as an owner. Its not something new about those restrictions or limitations that had been set into those gamblers or bettors who do often win on which it wont really be something that will really be appealing into their eyes. The wrong thing about that particular bettor is that he made a new account and passed up the funds on which this is likely a violation on site terms and conditions on which you do made out the situation even worst or non-favorable for you.

It is better that on the moment that you've seen that they are already giving out those kind of max bets limits then you should have withdrawn those funds and pass it up into other platforms
on which this is where you would really be that to make those bets without having restriction.If they would really be again making those limits then do it again and again.
We do know that there are tons of sites or platforms on which we could really be able to deal with and not really just that a single place.

I won't. First of all, whether an individual is winning or losing, a casino owner would still earn; the idea of house always win. One reason is with transaction or service fee in every bet or every withdrawal and deposit. Another is the idea that not all players are winning for sure. The idea that an individual is gambling could even be a good thing to get more players towards your gambling platform. For sure no gambler would consistently win. Therefore, this player will have the urge to just continue playing simply because he experienced winning for quite some time and that includes even times that he's losing. There is always a better way to view a picture and same thing goes in this given situation.

But yes I've heard that there are really players who got banned from winning too much especially with landbased casinos. Maybe it is just because we view things on different ways and it just happened that those gambling providers who does, sees it as a threat.

The casino has the rights to make a restrictions if there any activities that are user doing, base on your statement your friend makes a consecutive bet i guess having a cooldown is a must before placing another bet, possible the casino might detected a suspicious account and get tag, once your friend mistake is make an account with the same IP, those address are detected by the system this might possible flag his account, new account created and makes a deposit at the same time with the same amount recently withdrawn with the same IP if you will check that its possible abuse with the system of the casino. Most of the infos like that are already in their FaQ's and Terms and Conditions so i guess its considered as forfeit or the casino might give it back and close the newly created account.

Here the problem is that your friend is too greedy with his winnings, if only your friend had stopped gambling at that time and withdrawn the money to his bank, then it wouldn't be a problem. Because casinos are a business and they don't like people who are dissatisfied with their winnings. You can say that it's unfair, but that's how casinos work - you can't expect the casino to allow your friend to keep opening accounts and winning, because that could be a disaster for the casino since it would affect their liquidity. It's still better if the casino still allows your friend to access the money after a year, at least the casino still has good intentions to pay your friend's winnings, if it was another casino then they would immediately cancel the winnings and consider it invalid.

Hard to answer, but maybe what I will do first is to check his account first especially his bets.
Did the player win it fairly or he did something unfair (cheat) that make him always win, because it is almost impossible to always win in casino games.
If he won it fairly, there is no reason for me as owner to kick/ban him but if he won it by cheating then for sure I'll kick/ban him.
Anyway are you referring to sports betting only? because as far as I know most cases (limit) happened in sports betting?
If it is about sports betting only then I have no idea what to say since I'm not really familiar with it. 

Winning sports bets 10 times in a row is a huge success in gambling and it is a normal thing to have when you are actually betting on favorite teams in various leagues in Europe. The casino will obviously check whether there is a possibility of cheating on the account or not, there are rules and policies that customers must comply with.

Creating a second account to carry out a plan in the sense of wanting to trick the casino is a violation. It would be natural for the casino to ban both accounts for cheating, so I don't think the customer deserves to get his money back if the casino wants to deny him. Thank goodness the casino had good intentions of returning the money, if not then I think your friend deserves some of the blame.

Winning 10 times in a row is not sufficient to banned or cause restrictions to his account. Casino usually just let the players play further because they knew that player will lose later on due to greediness and human error. The only way you can be banned immediately by winning 10 times is when you are betting on suspicious game or you doing an arbitrage bet using different casino to get a +EV on wrong odds placement matches.

In general, Casino will not easily kick you out if you are frequently winning. It’s all related on the betting history of the player. I’m not sure what specific casino in subject here but maybe the reputation of the casino is another PoV we can look at as cause of this restriction.

You can actually be right. Maybe it was sensed that he could be betting based on cheating although since gambling has been a game of luck, it is possible that onr can loose 10X and so also is the possibilities that one can win 10X in a role.

The friends winning was kinda suspicious because he plays too eager to keep taking the winning that even after being banned in his first account he furthered to open another one. That is exactly where the suspectiousness was rested but though if the casino can not prove him wrong of violation then the  action of banning him would be totally nullified.

There's always the possibility that the OP's friend hasn't been truly honest. We're quick to judge the casino's moves, but we don't actually know the full story. Whether you agree or not, 10 wins in a row are suspicious, enough to raise concerns. It's not easy to prove that he was cheating, thus the limitation until they had enough evidence to investigate further, but him opening another account was also a red flag from his part. What was he trying to hide, and why wasn't he satisfied with making a few bets with a maximum of $500 per bet? Did he perhaps have other motives?

Isn’t that obvious? Casinos want to win as much as the players. The difference is; They own the house, they make the rules. They design the games in such a way, the player will always lose in the long run. When some lucky bastard wins a lot, it is then they limit that player so he won’t win even more. In the the end the more the player wins, the more the casino loses and like I said, the casino also wants to win.

Did he really thing he can get away from it by creating a new account? C'mon man, we are better than that.
If a gambler doesn't even have the patience to wait for just a day or two, something must be wrong. And you didn't even ask yourself about that. I am worried.
He cannot get out because of the amount, surely, there's a reason behind it and as an online gambling supporter, you should know the answers.
The guy is being limited. This means he must submit KYC so that he can withdraw the amount he wants. That should be the simple reason behind it and this should not go further as a discussion. Anti Money Laundering Act. We all know that. It means he hit the floor where he will be questioned about the withdrawal amount that he making. Is it legal? Yes!

Just like Mikki who got banned from Las Vegas for winning huge amount of money from gambling. 😅 Lucky enough for he also caught casino cheating gamblers based on the videos he posted online. Maybe he cost huge loss for the casino that is why people like him got banned from there as it clearly tell us that he literally beat the system of that casino.

It's part of the business. You don't want someone to sweep your funds if you think based on their activities that they're lucky. So, you limit them and just allow them with some certain amounts to win against your own casino.

It's because different from losing.

When someone is losing, that sounds like money for the casinos. But if someone is winning consistently, that means that they're outflowing money for them.

If you're a casino owner, any account that has recorded only wins since they deposited an amount of money or has recorded more wins than they have lost to me will surely attract my attention because how can that be possible in gambling? I will suspect that you are cheating maybe in some kind of way and will like to scrutinize your account.

It is normal to lose regularly in a casino but it is not normal that you regularly win and if you are such a gambler you would surely attract a lot of suspicion.

Casinos are a business and in order to remain in business they need to make profits, so while a gambler winning once in a while is acceptable, a gambler that can win consistently is not good for them, besides many casinos state very directly on their TOS that if they suspect you are a professional gambler then they can limit or ban your account, so they are completely within their rights to do this, the one at fault here is your friend, as after winning so much and getting limited, he decided to create a second account on the same casino, which goes against the TOS of most casinos as well, since having several accounts is not allowed.

I have not heard of some casino banning because the user kept winning. But maybe they suspect the user has found a glitch in the system that made him win over and over. If the user is draining the casino's funds, I think that casino already has a capital problem which is something that users will also need to avoid.

Please allow me to interrupt the debate you are mentioning, but I think that is an issue where the own always wins, just like in life we rarely see anyone working without receiving a salary. And in the situation that you mentioned before, it happens a lot. I have witnessed some (illegal) online casinos violently appropriating players' money. In fact, it is no different from the situation - scam. But anyway, we (gamblers) accept the fact that we play what they offer, so the compulsion is to accept the possibly unreasonable rules they bring, for personal benefit. First of all, no one will say that own this for users to make money :)

Is it possible to win gambling in a row at a time? I think it looks very strange,  this could be the reason why the company would not accept it because if they allow a gambler to keep playing it is possible for him to win all the money the gambling company has which is very strange. If a gambling company has put limit on a player it is better for the player to bet with the limit and no need to create another account to bet. But apart from this if casino limit users from betting just because wining a reasonable amount of money , I think it is not a good casino a gambler needs to look up to. Casinos will allow a gambler to keep playing bet after losing money  several times but when gamblers starts winning in a row it becomes a problem.

Yes, it can be canceled for various reasons so that he does not get more winnings.
Casinos don't want to lose just because one gambler knows the weaknesses of the system being exploited,
but if it is not proven to be exploitation of existing loopholes, they may respond with other clichés.

Account banning is a frequent way in which each account's winnings will have a limit.
Even someone who has already been banned is also flagged and when he starts logging back in with a new account it will be closely monitored.

Interesting, unique and it would be very upsetting if that happened to me. The point is, when I win at betting, and win more than I lose, we should remain free without being limited as before when betting. However, I'm not too sure what you said regarding your friend in the bet. I mean, I don't know exactly what's going on and how he always wins rather than loses. I'm trying to speculate, it sounds like your friend bets on sports if I'm listening based on this thread. The first problem, maybe your friend plays at a casino that has a system like that. I mean, when someone tends to win more, he will be limited as you said. The first step, he must make sure first by reading the casino's ToS. although I'm not sure there are rules like this, but for our own comfort and safety as users and customers. Make sure that the casino you use does not carry out such actions. Even though it is difficult to be sure, at least immediately withdraw the winnings after betting starts to be limited. the reason is, something goes wrong when we are limited. Or, it could be that your friend made a bet that we didn't know was illegal. Basically, I can't judge or try to guess, because I've never experienced anything like that.

Now let's discuss your question, I can't answer it because I don't have the capacity of a casino. I can't make wild assumptions, because I don't own a casino. So, the first and second questions are more precisely the casino that answered the questions in this thread. because, clearly it is not my place to make assumptions or make unilateral claims. However, if this happens to me, I will automatically look for a more decent and trustworthy casino.

I think I've seen this story that there's someone who's been kicked out and banned for being lucky. Or there's an actual math from it and he's not lucky at all but knows his thing.

He surely have cost the casinos a lot and that's why for everywhere he go there, for sure the securities and marshall has his face on their radar and trying to memorize that he shouldn't be allowed to get into their premises.

So, for the casinos this is a very normal thing.

Actually, I haven't experienced such thing but what's the name of the online casino? Can you tell us so we would stay far from it. IMO if the bettors only wager $500 below and was lucky at all his stakes and the casino refuses to allow him bet above $10, it means that the casino is not a big casino and they don't have money to pay. I haven't seen such a thing before as this is my first time hearing about it.

This is very normal in casinos, they don't like you winning too much and while you are winning they will look for some reasons to stop betting further temporarily or permanently but in online casinos things are different and it can be true that casinos can limit user's betting limit but when it happened he should have voiced out what happened to him so the casino obviously want their reputation intact might lift his restrictions instead he went to violate the rule that gives the upper hand to the casino and you can't do anything at least they give the option to withdraw the funds after a locking period.

It is strange to see a gambler winning consecutively for many days, it is really uncommon. This could arouse some suspicion that the better have discovered a loophole or an insider is working the gambler. First, the casino will have to investigate the account to ascertain if he is abiding by the rules. If the account is clean it will become necessary to do a comprehensive check on the games to check if there are any lapses. If there is no problem, then the casino will have to take drastic action if the wins continue. Casinos are profit-making organizations; if not put under control, that bettor who wins consistently can make the casino go bankrupt. If such a gambler bets a huge amount, the casino might not be able to pay him. So, reducing his betting sum will be my option if this happens. Casinos always have risk control mechanisms, which makes them take some actions when they perceive a threatening situation, so I don't blame them so much..

I think that it is hypocrisy on the part of casino owners not to allow someone on a winning streak to continue gambling, but it's ok to allow a serial loser to continue gambling. This goes to show that they're not happy when their customers are constantly winning their bets and keeps coming back to win more, I guess they're just like other shrewd business owners who likes to collect from others and feels bad when they have to give out. The only justifiable reason why I feel that they do this is because in most gambles, you bet a little money to stand a chance to win so much more, it's mostly not a 50 50 situation.

Casino is someone's business and they are designed to bring the owners much gains and limit their losses to the winnings of their clients. I think they interpret consistent wins as a sort of cheating on the system and limiting the wager amount is a perfect pattern to reduce the rate at which the casino is exploited, but in your case it is legitimate, but the truth remains that the casino has been programmed to flag consistent wins, especially the ones with a very significant amount on their system as a potential threat and control it as much as it can.

Its very sad that its one sided and they don't use the same wisdom to prevent addicted gamblers from senseless overinvolvement in gambling activities, so their policies aren't balanced at all and the rules are one sided, set only to Favour the casino,

Do you really have to ask such a question? You know, casinos gotta make money.  They are cool with regular folks winning here and there, but if someone keeps raking it in big time, that will cut into profits and  so they set limits on bets to kinda rein in the big winners.  Keep things from getting too outta hand.  Sure its about their bottom line but they frame it as trying to be fair so average Joes dont lose their shirts.  Casinos need losers to stay afloat, just reality.  So I get why they cap bets - it protects their business model.

Still sucks when you are on a hot streak and they shut you down though!  Rough break for your friend...

Winning is a big threat to casinos itself, and if you are winning most of the time it can be a red flag to casinos and seriously, this is happening and some are just doing this discreetly as they limit your account without you noticing it whole some site are doing this while informing you. The casinos have the right to do this as long as it is on their terms and conditions but if its not, then that casinos is suspicious. Winning too much in casinos might trigger their alarm.

Casinos have every right to restrict winning customers as they are running a profit-oriented business. Your argument seems quite logical where you say that casinos favor losing players because it means more money for them. They can set their own rules, which include limiting those players who frequently emerge victorious. In other words, casinos reserve the right to cut out the winners from their game.

Creating more than one account is called “multi-accounting”, which is an illegal act, and it goes against the rules of casino's Terms of Service (TOS). In this light, I believe every gambler should be aware that casinos have high-security systems in place to detect any suspicious activity or violations. Multi-accounting, where players open multiple accounts in order to outsmart the casino system, is considered a grave offense by casinos. They adopt this measure with the objective of precluding any abuse towards them and to guarantee equitable play for all participants in the game.

I hope you know that when you win at a particular casino, it’s always affecting their own profits. They don’t always want their customers to win, so that’s why they decided to place a limit on your friend's account, but to me, it doesn’t make any sense for them to limit the amount your friend can gamble with, if your friend was losing, they wouldn’t have placed any limit on the amount he can gamble with. If I am your friend, then I will stop using the gambling site.

Your friend should have just given other casinos a trial, must he keep on using the casino that’s limiting his account? And even if your friend wants to keep gambling on the casino site, he should have used different devices and different amount of money.

No, I won’t do that as long as the customer doesn’t violate any rules. Any casino that can do that is not really a reputable casino. As long as it’s not in the rules that if you keep on winning constantly, your account will be banned or limited.

This story is so motivational and makes me to think why am limited to these kind of luck. I have not witnessed such a situation where a gambler is continuously winning the casino that they had to ban his account but if I was to own a casino, I will also limite the amount of money such gambler can stake with because if I don't put a limit on his account and he decides to gamble with a very huge amount and peradventure he win, it is going to be a huge lose for my casino. That's why I will limit his staking amount.

Cause they see people who win in a setting where they expect everyone to lose as deviants to the system, and if they leave them alone they might run them dry and bankrupt their business, matter of fact that's basically their business model, to entice and invite as much losers as possible in order to earn more money. Think of it this way, you got yourself an unli-buffalo chicken restaurant business and instead of making bank you're losing money because there's this one guy who's a competitive eater, who always eats more than the regular paying customer, for the same amount of money they fork out.

If I were to own a casino, I would impose such bans as well, disguise it as measures taken to prevent cheating, and then make sure that deviants who keep winning off of my games are kept out, so as to ensure that my business stays up.

Also would make sense for them to ban your friend cause from your story it seems like he was able to access an exploit or perhaps make bank off of a poorly-coded game that grants him all the wins he wants, and it could be the case that he could entice people into playing these particular games to make bank and earn off of it, which is bad for business.

A business is a business. All casinos cap the wins to keep things going.  

There is nothing strange in that story with your friend. Something similar would happen at any other casino, except, as you said yourself, he should not have created a new account to bypass the restriction. This is a clear violation of the terms of use and they have every right to block his accounts. There's not much to complain about, unfortunately.

Casino can never be in profits if someone is winning consistently, so it’s obvious that the casino will eventually make something about it, either to limit his bet or ban him for some time. And there’s nothing a bettor can do for that since the casino owner has the right to do everything on his own business. And please, saying to come back after 365 days is only an excuse, but to be honest, don’t count for that anymore. I find it taking your profits after a year will never be possible anymore, something that you can’t do nothing since you obviously go against with their TOS.

Casino operators are in for business, if they allow customers to win without limits, they might go bankrupt. Is it not better to place such limits than allow customers to win and there's no money to pay them? I'll do same if I have a casino.The gambler deserves whatever punishment given to him for trying to play smart with the casino. This should discourage him and many others who deliberately try to use tricks on casinos.

I must say the gambler in question is really lucky with being too greedy. I was expecting the story to end at where he lost all the money he won to gambling again but it didn't happen anyway. Atleast, he still has a chance of withdrawing his winnings in one year time. He is a skilled but not-too-smart gambler.

In situations I have witnessed; a consistent winner in gambling setting, either sports betting or casino do not get banned; instead it is their staking power that gets reduced drastically.

By staking power I mean how much such gambler can bet per game on that platform. I want to believe it is constitutionally wrong to ban a player in a gambling website for just wining too much

It is a business so you should know how to limit your loss, and also your friend should have read the sites TOS if it is against it to create multiple account.
I also think that these kind of incident doesn't only happen online but also in casinos, there are people who are ban for some reasons.

That's really unfair, and I'm sure he gambled at a casino that has a bad reputation, and I would ask if there are measures to just make sure that it is a trusted casino by looking at its reputation first before he finally decides to bet at the casino? If not, then that's the consequence that we don't get justice when we are really lucky by getting a lot of lucky wins, even though the casino promises to pay it but if it takes a year to be able to cash out the winnings then I think a gambler will still feel disappointed.

On the other hand despite everything I think it is really a very concerning situation and surely he is very disappointed with the service of the casino, because the casino should behave fairly which is simply that if there is one gambler who has won a lot of consecutive wins then the casino should have a good responsibility to pay the gambler according to the amount won and at the right time without any delay in payment, especially in that case he did not commit any fraudulent acts at all. In conclusion, I think this incident can be used as a lesson for gamblers to first check the reputation of the casino to ensure that you are involved in a trusted casino.

I also don't think it will happen in big casinos like stake. And the amount was not so big either. So why use a small and not reputable one if you don't want to have issues like this, I am just assuming a small one. The OP said, he is a friend of his. Since he is promoting stake, why not introduce him to stake because this casino can handle huge amount of money. Just look at the amount Drake is betting on this site.

If I have a casino and I notice a particular user has been winning games without losing any single one, I will have to pay close attention to that user as such acts appear very suspicious and I need to look into them. I will then check if there is any special tool that he is using to manipulate the game and how he makes his game selection.
 
If I have done that, I see no difference in his method of bet from others. The only thing I will do in order for him not to send me out of business is to limit the amount he can wager and the amount that he can win on a single bet, but I'm not going to restrict him from playing in my casino; that will be unfair.

A casinos goal is to make money. No other way to put it. If a player is always winning, they are not making anything from that player.

With that being said, it is my understanding that the providers are the ones limiting the player, not the casino.

Your "friend" should not try to bypass a casinos terms no matter what the situation is. Start betting different sports or something, but never make a new account to bypass limits.

The case that OP raised is quite different from a real casino game. It specifically concerns a sportsbook that accepts sports bets, and sportsbooks do not gamble against bettors; they only facilitate the bets that come from both sides. Their normal income comes from the juice, which is usually 10% and higher. Their job is just to balance the bets so they end up with a good commission.

Actually, other sportsbooks don't limit bets unless the bet is too huge. But for a $500 bet, I think they can balance that easily, as per game or action there are a lot of bettors betting on it, so it's easy for that amount to balance, and the casino would still earn an income regardless of the outcome of the game or even if a certain user keeps winning.

When you're winning, the casino is losing, when you are losing, the casino is winning.

The thing is, they wouldn't limit you if you just win a couple of games, but if you are staking high amounts and winning continuously on the spin, they have no choice but to limit you to a certain amount, that way they reduce your payout if you win and their losses in the process. That being said, if you break any of their rules, you're going to be banned and the next action your friend took is against their rules, so he can't have too many complaints.

As unfair as it seems, casinos do have a right to ban players for winning too much. Even Dana White has complained about getting banned from several casinos because they didn’t want him to win too much.

In the case of your friend they weren’t banned for winning too much, they were banned for multi-accounting. They should have just waited until they removed the limits from his account instead of breaking the rules so he could make larger bets. If they were suspicious of him before, this would’ve just given them an excuse to ban him. They could have also kept his funds but they actually gave him an opportunity to withdraw in a year, which seems like a reasonable compromise.

Exactly, these casinos have the right to kick someone or ban someone especially if they violate some rules.

But there are some casinos still have issues even you are not violating any rules, that's given, especially you are really winning and they hate you, it's kinda natural but very rare case for me.

A good and reputable casino won't choose that option but rather give them freedom to gamble. But for some reason, this person would be in question for that scenario because it is not usual to see a gamble win many times for example in 3 wins every week or even winning every day. Without any possible cheating that is impossible and banning him/her may not be the best option but it will be considered especially when it shows suspicion.
Of course, it is business, and casinos prefer to see gamblers keep on losing rather than winning.

That's impractical for this online casino to do that on players, they're pushing potential customers aways to play on their gambling site. Yes we do understand that there's several instances that multi accounting really existed but to those that's confirmed doing so. Winning players should be provided with welfare and protected of his rights for his funds, because the day he/she lost many times doesn't pay off a rewards if I'm not mistaken.

Wouldn't limiting them just kill the enthusiasm of the user? Sounds like a method to lose customers imo, especially if it wasn't in the ToS or something (e.g. after x amount won you can only bet y amount). Business-wise wise though I can see why, I mean they're basically losing money off of a single person. Pretty sure no business would want to see that and since the casino always has the right to ban someone (in their ToS usually) anytime as long as they have a valid reason (which they can just create), they can always kick someone out whenever they want to.

Whatever the actual case may be, as long as the casino is losing due to players, they'd probably do whatever to stop that, even if you're just one dude winning a bit of what they're earning lol.

From a legal point of view, business can not forbid customer to use or purchase their goods or services. IRL nobody can kick you from casino, shop or etc, if you are there during their working hours and havent violated any rule. As to limiting person in something, maybe only a sales person can do everything slowly and limit the amount of service or goods you are going to receive. But I dont know if this works for online business also. Legally, I dont think that casino can kick, ban or limit gambler online. But technically they can always do this and call it «during or for investigation». But from my point of view, this is wrong thing to do, as every customer must be treated identically.

If I am the casino owner I will not do that if the costumer is winning since we can use this scenario to market our casino and make other people believe that its possible to win. That scenario can be use to market the casino and for sure lots of existing costumer or speculator would love to watch that scene.

Since if we limit a player because they are winning for sure this will backfire to us and provably that person will post against us. This could ruin our reputation then provably a lot of costumer will get discourage to gamble and this is when our business start to collapse.

If the casino limit or ban the user if they are winning to much that means the casino owner is total jerk and cannot be trusted. This indicate that we must avoid that casino since what they do is shady practices then this might give us a hint that in future this casino will turn into a scam.

This is basically part of the casino/bookmaker business model. Either by luck or talent, some players will be able to tease a profit out - this is probably only true when making sports bets. Maybe they have discovered a strategy that allows them to squeeze a small margin out and try to pump a lot of money into it to maximize their returns. If they are limited to $50 a bet but they only make a decent profit by placing $10k bets, then they will probably just move along to the next bookmaker to try it there. Bookmakers are not obliged to take any particular customer and they can choose to restrict their dealings if a customer is unprofitable to them. It's the same with any business really.

If we set up a business, of course we want to make a lot of profit, just like if we were in business but our money was stolen by someone else, of course we wouldn't be happy and as a result we would experience losses, that's why casinos save their business if they know that there is someone who always wins. continuously in large amounts of money because over time it will make the casino go bankrupt, but we will be happy if we see people spending their money at our place of business, meaning we make a profit thanks to those who spend their money on the business we fun and of course we don't forbid that person to stop or limit it.

If we are casino owners, of course we have rules that must be set, indeed the buyer is king, but we are the owners and it is up to us to do whatever it takes to keep the business running. Perhaps this will discourage gamblers who break the rules and provide a deterrent effect on them, while The owner will be happy if he sees gamblers who spend a lot of money and will become customers who are loved by the casino. In fact, if you win, the casino will not be happy to see you win and leave the casino with lots of profits.

Of course, the aim of the casino is to make a profit from the large number of people who gamble, and with those who may gamble continuously, especially using high betting amounts, the chances of winning are big, but the chances of losing are even bigger, and what you say is true, of course, if the gambler can Winning continuously of course will not be allowed, of course the casino will limit or even take back the winnings that the gambler has earned, also I think if they can win more than twice it will actually make them continue to gamble because they feel confident that they can get even bigger wins, but of course the casino will not make them win in the long term because that is not the goal of the casino, although there is indeed a chance to get a win but of course the casino will limit the wins that the gamblers will get so that their casino keep going.

Apart from that, I don't think any gambler can win consistently, it's very unlikely that this will happen to those who are just ordinary gamblers even if they say they are professionals at gambling, I don't think they can win consistently if at all. There are people who can win consistently, maybe they have made gambling their main source of income, but considering gambling as their main source of income is wrong. because it could lead them to big losses.

Casino will not allows one person have two accounts and used that account to gambling. They will knows if their members trick them and what your friend did is one of the trick. Casino deserves to ban their casino if casino found their members do something suspicious.

Casino will allows their members wins many times on the gambling games. But the casino will asks you to verify yourself before they lets you to continue gambling. You must do that if you still wants to playing gambling on that casino but most people will leaves the casino and search for the other casino.

If casino limit or ban a user when they winning too much, that because casino doesn't wants to see their members wins on the casino. They will do many things to prohibit their members back to their casino and limit or ban is the thing that the casino will do. But in this case, the mistake is from your friend because he make two account on that casino.

Whether a user creating two accounts does not have an intention to cheat but it's obviosuly a violation to the TOS. Therefore a casino has its right to ban and confiscate the money if necessary. it's a lesson so that everyone should read the TOS, not only upon signing up but regularly as TOS can be change overtime, or maybe susbscribe with the casino so you'll receive an email regarding any changes.

OP's concern is not new, but out of frustration due to account getting limited, it's not a reason to create another one with the same sportsbook/casino, why not try to gamble in different casino, that way he won't create a problem.

Exactly, it's against the company's rules and regulations and if there's a proof that someone violates their rules, they have the right to banned or credit back the money they've won. It's not a new issue but this still circulating from time to time, even if they had no intention of cheating, but creating 2 or more accounts is still considered as cheating because people want to earn more money using different accounts. I agree with you, instead of creating multiple accounts in 1 casino sites only, why not create to the other casino company? so that there's more chances of winnings.

Well, I think there is no issue if a certain person or gambler has many accounts. If the casino owner or authorities notice that those multiple accounts have illicit or suspicious activities, they have the right to ban or block those accounts, and of course they need to show proof to the player because it is the right and legal way. Cheating on a casino website is inevitable, and there are many people who will find the website vulnerable so that it could benefit them, and those players deserve to be banned or kicked. And the same goes for a gambler who often or always wins. Of course, as an owner, you will be suspicious if a player is winning too much; there will be an investigation, and if proven to be cheating, expect a ban or lawsuit against that customer. But sometimes, in order to protect your business, even a non-cheating gambler who is just too lucky will be banned or restricted.

if you continue winning all the time, do you want them to go out of profits? Understand that generally gambling is a two way thing, it's either you're winning and the casino owners are loosing or that you're loosing while the casino owners are winning.

When you're loosing on a consistent bases, what's the first thing that comes to your mind? It's mostly that you want to quite and that's when you become bothered that you're likely getting addicted to gambling. But if you're winning, everything seems okay to you but that's when the gambling owners experience there own loss. They could easily use to loss of others to compensate for your regular wins and the business moves on but when your rate of wins is increasing too much, it's just normal that they would want to kick you out of the game by restricting your account for couple of months or frame any excuse why your account has been restricted. It's nothing too serious, gambling us a business. You enjoy and have fun and the owners expect profit at the end.

It’s still a case to case basis when regards to multiple account some casino allows it as long as it will not be use to abused bonus but on OP’s friend case, his account was restricted which means casino doesn’t want him to play anymore so regardless if there’s no multiple account rules on ToS he will still be restricted on other account due to circumventing the previous restrictions.

I don’t get the point on why this user created another account on same casino while he can use different casino to play again since most of the casino games is just the same if he is just using a normal sportsbook, the odds difference is just minimal and unnoticeable.

Those are just cases where we have too absolute a win and the casino becomes powerless against our ability but unfortunately, such absolute superiority does not seem to exist and a winning streak is often broken by unexpected defeats, even though there are no mistakes in every step, in the end, the casino also brings players to the brink of failure. Therefore, it feels that throughout the years in the history of gambling, there have been too few individuals who have been restricted from betting, the casino has always been welcoming no matter what kind of character it is.

But majority discourage it so I guess much really better if we could just avoid to do this since for lots of issues which we see that a user got restricted due to that situation maybe its better for us to avoid since we could focus on single account without hitting something that can lead us to violate certain rules that been issued by the casino. Also as you said there's alternative casino we could choose to gamble and we could able to enjoy rather than thinking about doing risky things since for sure it may cost us something if the casino representative find some unusual activities happened on our accounts.

Maybe to abuse the bonuses given since if they are not into that I also don't get the point why there's need to think about creating a alternative account since if we think about this its really useless to have that.

Of course it's business and you don't want your business to be close or incur big losses for 10 days because some lucky guy is winning too much. So you have to put something of a cap or just kick or ban the player himself. And casinos have every right to do that. If we can also compare it to card counters, it's not illegal to count cards but once casino found out what you are doing, they are going to kick or ban you from their premises.

As I have said, at the end of the day, still boils down on the business side of the casino. And that's why there are limit in traditional based casinos in any table, because they don't want players to win so much and I'm sure you are aware of this limit since you are a regular black jack player.

When I own a casino, I would not limit or ban a gambler that is always winning from my casino, of I ban him it might bring bad publicity to my casino. I said when because I have plans of owning a casino someday and I would not stop anybody from winning in my casino. If a user keep winning I'll use him as my ambassador to promote my casino and use his reputation to bring more players to my casino. He is going to have some gamblers that will be following him therefore I'll use him as the face of my casino to bring trust to the casino and the gambler will believe the transparency of my casino. He will then have other things he can concentrate on to make money and also be bringing me money but not to take money away from my casino by always winning

Why would I ban a player for winning there is nothing in any casino's terms that will say that if a player is winning a lot he will be banned and I will not add it either as a casino operator, I prefer to limit the player than banning him, many players will not play in the casino if they find out that they are banning players for winning too much.

It seldom happens but if there is a case that's because casinos are businesses and profit-driven platforms they can't sustain their operation if they are on a losing end.

OK, this is clearly very understandable though, from all the comments I've read here, its clear to me that almost everyone, if not all actually, understands perfectly the place of limiting in gambling, and seems we all are cool with it, but then, I wonder why from time to time, I still see some users or gambler rather, create/post thread on this board or the gambling board complaining bitterly about a casino limiting them after some series of winning, I believe this is to say that such a gambler understand that it's the right thing the casino has done, but pretend not to, or maybe some use that as a bait to capture the interest of some reader who may pressume the gambler to be very good in predictions, so they constact the gambler in hopes of working with him, only to end up being scammed.

Anyways, I believe it's all part of the hustle, now that I know that limiting a player when he or she is winning too much is a very normal and the most wise decision as a casino operator, I will not be angry if in the future, I experienced winnings that moved the casino to limit me, atleast, this should help me avoid making the same mistake that dude made.

I don't think he is sensible enough to do that and this still makes me think the story looks somehow. If he was limited on his account and bet with $10 and won, he could have managed with that until after that day to open a new account if he wanted. Opening a fresh account just after he was limited, the casino will have an instinct that he is the same person, and he deposited same amount he withdrew from the limited account. Probably, he might have bet same amount he was milking the casino with  ;D which gave them a confirmation and prove that he was same person.


No gambling house would like to be recording loses because they are not charitable organizations but business outfit with profit making as the intention and goal , so they would make sure to secure profit at least to run the business including maintenance of the websites, adverts or payment of workers. Casino need few winners and plenty losers and they take their profit from those losers after paying winners. Therefore, it will be difficult to allow a gambler huge winner all the time. They could maybe have the streaming contract with you.


Possibly yes because I don't have to open a business that won't generate profit to pay bills. Most gamblers understand this, you win some you lose some and the house edge wins more that makes gambling a lucky play.

Which online sportsbook/casino it was precisely? I guess a local one if you didn't name it. A one year withhold is not disproportionately unfair if they really respect their commitment to give back his money and his winnings after one year IMO. Especially if they've sent him an email explaining they have decided to limit the amount he is allowed to bet on each event and he has to respect those limitations and to not register a new account in order to try to circumvent them. At least he knows they won't ask him an endless and unbearable KYC procedure in order to keep his funds indefinitely like some famous casinos are doing.

There is nothing else I can think of other than concluding that it is a bad casino that is not reputable or that does not have good responsibility in running its gambling business, because before an incident like this happens, or before someone manages to achieve a lot of winning streaks then they should have prepared funds to pay whoever wins, and also I think at that time there must be many other gamblers who have lost at the casino so I think there is no reasonable reason to delay the payment... On the other hand, yes, it is true as you say that if it is OP's friend so yes I will also ask why he doesn't suggest getting involved in the casino promoted by OP, because so far I have never had any problems when betting on stake.com, especially in terms of deposits and withdrawals, unless we do some mistakes or breaking the rules then that is another thing.

Again, he decided his fate on this one... He was restricted for having several wins in a row and, he took the chances of creating another account on the same casino? Huh. Look, there are things you shouldn't dare to do when you have an already verified account (with KYCs and everything)...what was he thinking? How was the casino not supposed to know that - that was the same person? And that he's tryna evade the restrictions?

He shot himself in the leg and I hope he isn't blaming anyone, not even the casinos. It's a common ideology for you, just like it is for the casinos; The more y'all lose, the more their profit accumulates.

Since I'm all about free market and realize the business owner can do what he wants as long as some basic rules of conduct are applied, I'd say the casino at any moment has the right to buy anyone, but it also has to pay up first. So if the customer wins constantly, I'd temporary block him for investigation because this would look like he's abusing a bug or something. There's no way someone can consistently win big money, like $10k every week for 3 or 4 weeks straight. Without any proof I'd have to pay up, or face a lawsuit.


They're most likely afraid of loopholes and bugs and block people to check what they did to win.

I think in this case it is the fault of the gambler to make a second account on the same site (when it is not allowed and written in the terms and conditions of the gambling site). When anyone violates the terms and conditions, it gives an easy excuses to the gambling site to ban the account or seize the funds (not allow withdraw) and no one can blame them because they are doing it as per the rules.

If he hadn't made a second account, and then the gambling site freezes hi account or limit his gambling activities, then we had the right to blame them but not in this situation.

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By the way if any gambler is so lucky that he is wining a lot of bets and games, so instead of gambling at one casino, he can gamble at multiple casino and avoid being coming in the eyes of the gambling site owners that his winning ratio is high.

Gamblers does not see that way, they believe that they are lucky playing on a certain casino rather than a certain game, so they will not take their business somewhere else. Limiting is actually normal, but it's only for those who are betting a lot of money, but for bets like $100 to $500 and then the casino will limit your because you are winning, that pretty much say that they just have a limited bankroll and therefore it's hard to trust them with big money.

However, these things are already beyond our control as the casino are the ones operating the business, all we can do is just to accept it but should not resort to breaking the rules, otherwise instead of winning, we might face some trouble and that our funds will be stuck.

Maybe his offense is doing what casinos does not want their customers to do consistently. In other words, your friend is spoiling business for them. But on a serious note, what kind of luck will make your friend to win consistently? What happened is that they might be suspecting him of cheating or having access to fixed games so they had to act to protect their business. I have not seen this happen anyways but I feel it is possible.

in many casinos they feel they have the right to do it, in the sense that if you are winning too much they have to find a way to chase you away or stop your winnings otherwise you would ruin them, considering the fact that in many cases they do it to protect themselves and they are right because there are many people who cheat casinos like cheaters at blackjack and trust me there are many of them once in Monte Carlo I saw them thrown out in a bad way, some even beaten

The purpose of every casino is to be ahead in profit, and if someone is racking up too much profit, such person must leave; if I were the casino owner, I would do the same.  ;D


Moving to another casino isn't the point; the point is that luck doesn't happen at every casino; I have more than 10 casino accounts and am only lucky on one (with a higher winning percentage than the others); the disadvantage is that it only accepts Fiat deposits, and I rarely gamble in Fiat.

Just as someone already said here, casino is a business for another man and the person only makes profit when the gamblers are losing their bets or stakes and there's no way a casino owners will discover that they are usually running losses due on one customer that they will not want to kick the customer. The house edge of the casino games is already designed to favor the casino and not the gamblers and if the gambler keeps winning, the casino will have no option but to either restricte the account and if you are not lucky enough, they could say you are using a Bot (lol) just to make sure they tag you to something allegedly.

Yes so obviously one of the reasons why casinos do not limit the number of defeats of the gamblers who play there is because the goal since the beginning they built the casino is to make a profit and the profit is only obtained from the losing gamblers, meaning that when more and more gamblers lose then they will also be happier, and that's why casinos often do promotions by promising something that sounds very tempting, none other than that just to get more people interested and enter the trap that in the end they will most likely lose a lot and the casino gets a lot of profit.

So I think it's unlikely that casinos will limit the number of losses of gamblers while profits are the top priority, on the other hand I have never experienced the incident described by the OP because I have never had such a big win, but certainly limiting the number of winnings of gamblers yes maybe it can be done by casinos because there are no other options to avoid bankruptcy, but yes anyway I would say that the casino is irresponsible.

          -   A casino is very unfair when they do that to their players on their gambling platform. It's not the gambler's fault if he always wins; I wish they would have put a limit bet amount on every game they have from the beginning.

It seems from your story, because of your friend, that their casino does not have a limit on the bet amount. Because if that's really the case, the casino gambling platform will run out of funds, which is why the casino owner will really be obliged to do it for them so they can't go bankrupt. Also, 365 days is too long; the question is, will they really return it after 1 year?

It's normal for a casino to limit a user account if they are seen winning a lot of bets consecutively because there are a lot of reasons for them to do that. What if the user is cheating somehow? If they know the outcome from before, and if they make a very large bet and win it, the casino can have negative consequences for that, so they take the steps necessary to stop that from happening and after letting it happen a few times, they apply a limit to the player so that they aren't able to make large bets anymore.

Your friend's biggest mistake was to create another account on the same platform. If he had managed to withdraw the money successfully, he should have used another sports betting platform to start placing his bets there so that he doesn't have any problems. They are not wrong for banning him since he created more than 1 accounts and that is against the terms and conditions of any platform.

We must avoids creating multi account in casino for our own good, especially if we often playing gambling on that casino. That can makes casino suspicious with our activity and they can do many things to us. When we always avoids something that can leads us to breaks the rules of the casino, we will be safe and can enjoy our gambling activity.

If we just use gambling as one of our activity, we will not chase anything and only wants to enjoy our free time. That can gives fun while we are break from our daily activities and relax ourselves. We know that playing gambling will not always gives win so we can reduce the lose.

He can create new account in other casino to avoids for breaking the rules. That will be safe for him as he doesn't needs to worry with anything. But still, selecting other casino to playing gambling needs research before we choose so that will needs time unless he have a casino lists that can he use to playing gambling.

I think a casino also knows what you are talking about. They might done some account checking first before they proceed. By the term " winning too much ", I think the bettors are confident that they have recovered their previous losses. There is still a reward either we win or lose (rakeback for example).

It may only be small for some but sometimes these amounts can help us to recover or win even more. So, I won't underestimate them. I will only be thankful instead and there are even casinos who don't have such feature but we can't believe that we still play at them, not only once or twice but multiple times. Although we might also be a newbie before and not aware that there are better casinos than them.

This is not the first time this kind of issue has been raised here; sometimes around last year, a newbie created a topic where he was asking for a casino where he can freely stake a huge amount without being limited in the amount he wants to stake. He was complaining about a casino that he has been using for more than three years, but they later started to limit the amount he could stake at once, which was not cool with him.

He didn't really explain what led to his staking amount being limited, but from what I understand and since he was a sports bettor, I feel he must have really been winning too much and the casino decided to limit his staking amount. 

Casino games usually have a higher chance of making gamblers lose their money, and the casino owners are aware that they have a higher percentage of winning in each game, so when they see that a gambler is winning continuously on that game, they will probably see it as something that is quite abnormal. 

That friend of yours is very lucky, huh?
How does he explain winning/hitting 10 consecutive predictions without any losses along the way? Anyway, I'm not asking your friend, since that's not the focus of the discussion.

In my opinion, I don't think this casino's practice of keeping the customer's money is fair, even if this is in the contract, the most the casino could do is limit that user's account/IP, reduce the amount of bets and so on. Are you going to keep the client's money and all of it?

If I had a casino I'd not choose to keep the customer's money, although your friend is having a lot of luck, one day he will lose, as will the other players in my casino if they are making a profit for me with their loss, my casino would remain viable.

But if it's the casino's rule to ban users who always win or keep their entire bankroll tied up for X days, there's not much that can be done unless the user is willing to take the case to court, but if the casino is online and from another jurisdiction, it would complicate things more.

Not to mention that this can create a headache for the casino, as the user can expose it on social media, if it is an influencer the casino is screwed, the chances of losing customers and potential customers increase.

This was his biggest mistake, we must remember that casinos just like us want to make money, so a gambler that can win so many times in a row will seem like an anomaly for them and that may get your account limited, however this is just normal behavior for most casinos, but by opening an account on the same casino, the friend of the OP violated the TOS and now the casino could take actions against him for doing it, so I find it unlikely he will recover his money.

It’s pretty rare for a casino to cut someone off because they’re winning too much. I’ve heard of it happening at high stakes tables when a player keeps doubling their bet until they finally get ahead, but in small stakes online gambling is find it a little hard to believe this is happening without some other form of interference going on.

First of all, I agree with you that your friend is making mistake hehe because he win all the times maybe because he is very luck at that point but the biggest mistake he opened new account with the same IP and deposited again to the first account. HMMMM I mean what is the motive to do that haha.

Why do casinos limit or ban a user when he or she is winning too much, but do not do the same when the user is losing too much as well? Kicking/banning and or limiting a player for winning too much

I mean the answer is obvious right the company is wanted profit and that's it, the key of all business to stay alive is profit so whenever there is a player win big there is a chance that the casino is going to limit the account especially if the player have behaviour like registered with same IP or etc