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So this is a huge facepalm and a big lol at the same time.

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/06/06/cQkkz.png

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/06/06/cQvg2.png

Based on his recent posts, the guy seems to be having a mental breakdown of some sort.



I still have to go through all the related threads to get the full picture, but from what I've seen so far, he's showing clear signs of scammer-like behavior, and I've supported both flags as a warning for newbies.

I spotted it too  ;D

I doubt it. You know how the saying about getting free publicity goes, he seems to be revelling in the glory of the attention he his getting even though it is all tarnished with negativity. Right now both of his known accounts ("unlimitedmoneygenerator" and "GluttonyY") are associated with spamming and trolling as well as being known for offering ways to make unlimited money therefore by default is a scam too.

I'm pretty sure that this person is not "stupid" in the sense that he can't read the flag contents, but just really really rage-quitting - although it doesn't help that the platform is shady as hell.


I've seen a lot of trolls spurring with us over the years, and many flags were dished out, but I think I can recall only one instance of the troll supporting their own flag against them. So it's a really rare occurence.

Don't worry they will be back with UMG2 or whatever.
The truth is I can start a ponzi or a casino with a domain like thehousewillalways.win or youwillnever.win and people would still show up and play.
So pushing something like UMG is not totally crazy if your goal is to separate people from their money.

-Dave

It's an IQ test like the Nigerian scams... If you're dumb enough to look past the horrible spelling and the absurd premise then you're more likely to fall for the actual scam down the road.

The sad part IMO is that they are not even trying. No cloudflare or any front end protection, a free SSL, hosted on an IP that is on a few blacklists for spam.

I still have more to look through, but I did support the flag, now it's just seeing how bad it really is.

Would like to say I don't get it, but we have seen so many other obvious scams that one more like this just blends into the others and will then the next one will come along.

-Dave

Lol, this is insane. Both UMG and GluttonyY supporting a flag that says UMG is a scam? That's some next-level hypocrisy.

Honestly, it's a bit concerning. They might be dealing with some serious cognitive dissonance or even mental health issues if they can't accept the fact that they're running a scam.

Thanks for sharing the screenshot, though. It's just more proof that these guys are full of it.

Sorry to quote the images...just for ref purposes.

However, they are just being honest by supporting an allegation against their person(s). They deserve some accolades  ;D

Please support the flag.


I learned from the best

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/06/06/cMG7J.png


Yea that guy Gluttony/Unlimited Money Generator, there both scammers! They fooled us all!

We almost got fooled....

There is no such thing as an Unlimited Money Generator.

This is FAKE! ITS ALL A PONZI SCHEME, STARTED BY GLUTTONYY, AND HE IS PLANNING TO STEAL MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FROM US.

SUPPORT THE FLAG BRUH, WE GOTTA MAKE SURE HE DON'T HELP US OUT! BRUH! SABOTAGE THIS SHIT!!!!!!

SABOTAGE US!!!!! MAKE IT SO WE HAVE TO GAMBLE ON SLOTS ALL DAY WITH 96% RTP ! BRUH! FLAG HIS SHIT! BRUH! HE  A SCAMMER!

How about going to a psychiatrist? I honestly think it would be good for you.

You need to go to see a tutor.

I agree to support the flag I created, and I appreciate anyone who does the same. It's about time we take a stand against scams like UMG.

I don't sabotage anything, nor do I have any interest in visiting that eyesore of a website again. It's a trashy platform that deserves to be exposed for what it is - a scam.

You're lying when you say I asked other members on this forum to play slots. I'm simply warning people about the dangers of UMG and its false promises.

And by the way, not all slots have a 96% RTP or a 4% house edge. That's a basic misconception, and you should know better. But I suppose that's what happens when you're trying to defend a scam.

So, instead of spewing nonsense, why don't you focus on defending your precious UMG? Oh wait, you can't, because it's a scam, and you're just trying to distract people from the truth.

Typical scammer when he realizes that even trolling is not giving him any pleasure and that it's time to pack his bags and go away!
Right now he is just seeking attention, he wants to prove to the others that he doesn't care, that he is greater than, all that bs that even a $3 per hour doctor could pinpoint with ease both cause and effects. I always wondered why if they get caught they try to exist out of this with the moral high ground, it's not that somebody really cares about an account with no known person behind it, but anyhow, this is stuff that should be investigated in a clinic.

Quite funny he starts to look more and more like polo7/fullbear/777 alts guys with each outburst. must be something in the water!

Both of his known accounts have gone quiet. Could this be the time he has decided to leave the forum (hopefully for good) but without making another announcement?

I have to say it is somewhat refreshing to see that all of the threads he started using both of his known accounts in Reputation are locked and there are no posts in the recent posted threads. Those walls of text were an eyesore.

Usually such trolls don't just leave the forum. I am pretty sure there is some Alt somewhere trying to keep a low profile so that they can't be detected. There was some other troll who about a month or two ago announced that he was leaving the forum for good, only to turn up with another stupid Alt account and most people haven't noticed it yet  ;D

Some of them have mental challenges. It's why I don't bother so much with them.

In his case, if he does decided to create other accounts (or already operates them), I guess eventually he will be caught out because if a new or low ranked member decided to continuously post about making unlimited money and posted links to their website, I think members will link the accounts  ;D

I do not know about the other troll that announced they were leaving only to return with another account but this seems to be a new tactic they employ either to seek attention or seek sympathy.

 For me, it's no point talking about this @GluttonyY guy because he's absolutely not worth it. We know his project is a scam one and will be considered careless and stupid of any one if they listen to him or give him the time of day but my question is why do we know all these and still choose to create threads for him? Shit, it's like giving him too much importance and this is the reason he won't think it out of place to drag you, @Pokerplayer and whomever he feels is against him, so you can just give it a rest.
 He's not the first person to have graced the forum with absurd ideas and lofty opinions and certainly won't be the last. Is this how we'd keep making threads for them?

Nope, he's still around, reading in silence.

https://talkimg.com/images/2024/06/11/cVn7w.jpeg

I've been closely monitoring his account last online activity since he suddenly locked all of his threads because there are several questions from me on those multi-threads that's yet to be answered, and I was weighting to get an answer through other thread about him that's raised by other member or to let things go as [I previously assumed] he's no longer interested with the forum.

Perhaps he's tempo-banned? Is there a way to check whether an account get a temporary ban?

There's no way of checking temp ban except if a mod confirms it, but it's likely the other account got a temp ban.

The better news is that GluttonyY is now permanently banned (https://bpip.org/Profile?id=3615431). Perhaps due to the multiple stupid unsolicited PMs. The other account could get permanently banned too, any time they decide to post from it.

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It's SeeBiscuit (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3491964). He said he was gone [goodbye bitcointalk.org! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5495239)] which now seem edited

The original version


3 days later he registered as Filippo Spina (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3629104), So much for the Goodbye.

On his profile, I could see links to SeeBiscuit, unfortunately I did not take a snapshot in time but here is what is left

https://talkimg.com/images/2024/06/14/c59pP.png  https://talkimg.com/images/2024/06/14/c5gSq.png
Filippo Spina profile archive: https://archive.ph/GiBku

Filippo Spina profile has been banned so far. I believe even D-8218 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3625114) is his Alt account. It has also been banned. He probably has a new profile by now.

Its always fun to watch people work through their psychological issues on the forum; especially the ones that are so obsessed with this place that they keep making new accounts after their old one is banned -- and its often not even for monetary reasons. Just like an obsession with reputational redemption, which usually fails in a spectacular manner.

The personal text of Filippo Spina really says it all: "Mental Health Tech". LOL.

Well UMG aka GluttonyY didn't look too good in the head either.


Without ruling out that he may come back with another account, it is time to lock the thread. He may be watching the forum and I think we should not give him more attention than he deserves.

I definitely agree with that sentiment. I locked my thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5499616.0) about him and why he went quiet but then Vod made a post that not only made me laugh but it was extremely accurate.  Maybe he thrives off the attention, we do not know but keeping that in mind (him possibly getting some sort of kick when members discuss him), locking the thread might be a good move.

He does. UMG was previously inactive for days while GluttonyY kept being online [presumably tempo-banned], UMG's account is active today. But that wouldn't shouldn't make much difference, like logfiles said, anytime he decides to post from another account, be it UMG or other account he newly created, excepting a ban appeal, the account should be and would be included in the ban.

The UMG account is only on a read -mode as he's temporary banned for 7 days.

How do we learn about this kind of information? I've tried to consult to modlog and BPIP before to see if they provide these status, but so far I think both didn't inform us about tempo-ban, only perma-ban.

If the information on tempo-ban user (warning tag) is not visible in the places you mentioned, you won't know unless someone from the other part of the forum informs you( as I did). Someone reported those accounts some weeks ago for creating too many spam reports, and one of the admins took care of it. One was perma banned, and the other received a 7-days tempo-ban.

Nothing skips LoyceV bots- You never know  :D

Hey Igebotz, thanks for the update! Glad to see those scammers getting punished. But, why didn't the other one get perma-banned too?

I forgot to lock the thread, lol, but as I see some interesting discussion I'll leave it open for a while.

If I may throw a wild guess, that's probably because UMG account was "compliant" when it got warned to reduce its spam frequency, while GluttonyY was... well... GluttonyY was used to spam the forum in exchange of UMG's. Its fate is kinda set when it took the burden of the spam duty.

Igeh, simple curiousity and would appreciate if you can peek into it... did UMG got tempo-banned again? He's been silent for two days [which rather unusual for him] and the silence coincided with ditec_wrogn pointing out [a point that I shamefully forgot] about his posting on other thread is a ban evasion (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5502168.msg64307834#msg64307834).

It's hard to ignore the idiot, when he spreads propaganda.

It's even harder to ignore the idiot, when we let him spread propaganda.

Just ignore, the chat-bot, he is insistent upon spreading lies.

I debunked, his claims, that UMG was a scam.

Here is the thread regarding the proof:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5499146.0

I also, proved to him/her, that the claims, UMG, made, were valid.

He did not read into any of those, claims. And instead, reverted, back to spewing the usual non-sense.

Please, for the last time, ignore - the useless, chat-bot spammers.

And do not feed into - the propaganda, the user, spews-

'UMG, is a scammer, he scams people!' - lie

'UMG, is ban-evading' - lie

'UMG, is covering his tracks!' - propaganda

Oh my god, look at that, you're not banned. I'm not sure how you're not banned yet, but I'll suggest you to straighten things with mods while you can, just in case you're ran out of... luck. And meanwhile, I believe your very own thread needs an attention. Hmm... decision decision, which to go first? A ban appeal or addressing to your thread's matter?

I don't feel comfortable addressing, anything, until Cyrus, and the other admins, clean up their act.

The forum, is riddled, with chat-bots.

We as innovators, have no free-space to operate.

There are literally, chat-botters, tricking users, into believing their opinion.

We can watch the forum, rot.

But one thing, is for certain. There will be no time, wasted on my behalf.

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/07/11/ognv2.png

You are not an innovator, snowflake. (sorry about my previous post that called you a bad name and got deleted)

Your project is akin to one developed in the late 90s.   No oversight, false promises and ugly designs.   Today's projects are open source and proveable -  do you even understand what bitcoin is?

Thanks, for the criticism, it will be taken into account for the next update.

The main focus, of Unlimited Money Generator, was the lucrative ability, to make money. The UI, will be improved later.

Unlimited Money Generator, is the first, system, to successfully, incorporate, 99.9% RTP gambling, sustainably. This is innovation at its finest, Vod.

Research, is free.

Looks like that thread has been deleted already by the Mods

I am not sure why mods are talking long to ban the user, since it's a case of ban evasion, but I am certain that his account's days are numbered already. There is a lot of proof that his account has a connection to an already banned account.
Worst of it, he adds zero value around here.

Logfiles, it would only be ban evasion, if there was another account created.

The mods purposely, left, UMG, being aware, of the current situation.

I am still unsure, on why, you are letting the chat-bot, trick you into believing a false narrative.

Umm... if my memory serves me right, there was a whole discussion about it, that a ban actually ties to the person, not the persona. So, regardless of the account being created before or after GluttonyY being banned, the ban actually ties to you, the individual operating the accounts is the one being banned.

So, I'll strongly advise you to focus yourself on a ban appeal thread on meta, perhaps ask mods to be allowed to keep this account as your one and only, and to have the other account banning not tied to this one. Else, and lest, we won't see you again.

Either by himself or others, him being labelled as an innovator by any stretch of the imagination would be a gross misrepresentation of the facts. When someone claims they have the means of generating unlimited money, they should be not be wasting time by posting their delusions of grandeur here, instead they should generating more of that so-called money. He cannot be taken seriously.

See, no wonder you got banned and got negative feedback, how are people supposed have the lucrative ability to make money with an RTP of 99.9%? LMAO.

Who are you trying to fool?

You don't seem to have had much success so far.

Don Pedro Dinero, I already, verified, UMG, claims, of having a 99.9% rtp to be legit.

Here is the thread, regarding that proof.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5499146.0

You can practically save the world from inflation and poverty on your own; your family and relatives must be really wealthy, but it is none of my concern because there is no way to prove it.

Now listen, you've been advertising and defending your service for a few months now, but I haven't seen a single person on the forum who has profited from it; could you provide us with one profile?

The author of Rich Dad, Poor Dad is not even rich.....

Hey, my friend Igebotz, I think you got it wrong.

Robert Kiyosaki Says Good Debt Makes You Richer — Here’s How (https://finance.yahoo.com/news/robert-kiyosaki-says-good-debt-150010844.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAInfuE5E1mSRk9bgsfJ9Y83y6857_m04gr7GABuAVyww67nrIIR8XMiafAPvfIpCEkOkHw7fBADbzZO7KhIzKNZepbNftA6kPx-k9mG-t_LKcPHavqY_kyS2NYjZNWdFsFe5wwDIOGuwchMhPXgfMaHPiXqTovPEAWgxEXY1EpDk)


Robert Kiyosaki Net Worth 2024: 'Rich Dad, Poor Dad' Author's Financial Acumen (https://www.ibtimes.com/robert-kiyosaki-net-worth-rich-dad-poor-dad-authors-financial-acumen-3729773)


Robert Kiyosaki Net Worth: The Wealth of the Man Behind Rich Dad, Poor Dad  (https://www.business2community.com/business-pages/robert-kiyosaki-net-worth-the-wealth-of-the-man-behind-rich-dad-poor-dad)

Oh right that was a surprise one as most of the "how to get rich" authors do not actually follow their own rules.

Now can we see UMG net worth? He's been printing unlimited money everyday right  ;D

You should know, most of the time, if a user, profits, they will not go out of their way to, make it known.

The only time, a user, makes something, known, majority, of the time is when they have been defrauded or taken-advantage of.

And Unlimited Money Generator, intends, to defraud, and has defrauded, no-one.

The truth of the matter, is users, from bitcoin-talk forum, have profited, from the Unlimited Money Generator.

If they were taken advantage, of they would have came back to the forum, to let you know months ago.

I think that, is where, the majority, of my frustration comes from.

If it was a fraudulent, platform, we would have a tangible source of evidence, to prove that by now.

But all we have are users, spreading false, narratives, merely because of their concerns.

And a mere, concern, is not enough to spam an innovator or platform, that he is a scammer, and create a flag, supported by no evidence.

This is a travesty.

Users from the forum, reach out to UMG, for support, and there is no problem helping them, with whatever problem they had. If they were not being helped, or not profiting, intensely, like the bold claims, suggested, you would have heard about that months ago.

I hope you understand.

One user I helped with support. I monitored, him to ensure, his activity, was legitimate.

He tripled his money within a day/5 hours. You can search his name, and follow up for proof.

I will send you his name privately, so his details are protected.

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/07/12/ob4H5.png

This user, I helped privately. But he would, have came back to the forum, and expressed his issue if there ever was one.

I don't understand, why, I am still flagged, and I have proven the flag, was negligible, Igebotz. I proved this flag, was wrong. And I also, addressed the concerns/report, and debunked, the claims that UMG, was a scam to the creator of the flag.

This user, still ignored, that, and proceeded, with making the flag anyway.

The flag, is negligible, and needs to be removed.

These, claims, that UMG, was a scam, were already debunked. Via the thread, linked above. To further that, it was led by a chat-bot, that was not correctly, interpreting my messages. This, user, also admitted to using this chat-bot, to support the flag.

A majority of us at bitcoin-talk all hate, chat-bots. So a flag, supported by a chat-bot, is even more negligible. An innovator, does not have time, to argue with robots all day.

Seriously, If you really want to consider the seriousness on your business then try to be honest and stop spouting like there’s unlimited profit generator that exist in the web. Because if your business model is true then you should just focus on your own business and stop trying to convince the community with words.

Most of users here are exposed or witnessed different scam method while your business model falls like the ponzi guidebook judging by the name alone.

Evidence was provided, so that Igebotz, can follow up appropriately.

Gambling X, is new gambling technology. It is offering, much better, benefits.

You can potentially generate, an unlimited amount of money. There is no limit, to the amount of money you can make. And no limits, to how many times you can win with the Unlimited Money Generator.

You can't save the universe; even Jesus couldn't. If I were you and had anything/tools that generated unlimited money, I wouldn't be online debating and trying to prove myself to anyone; instead, I'd be on a Jamaican island generating money and living my best life, and I'd never bother coming or discussing it on a forum where no one wants me.

So this sprang to mind: why do you need us? Why do you want others to believe in your project? If it's genuinely effective, why not utilise it just for yourself? Does the system actually require more humans to function? Would be great if you could answer these questions..

You supported your own flag do you know what that means?


Please it's not evidence until proven otherwise - I've sent a PM to that user so I wait. We're adults don't put words in my mouth..

I'm not going, to discuss, anything with you as long as you have an attitude.

But, yes, the Unlimited Money Generator requires, humans to function.

I don't know if you were, aware, but I am not debating with anyone, about anything. I am just clearing all propaganda.

Likewise, there are users, of the forum, interested, in UMG.

And I did not put words, in your mouth, I stated I sent evidence, to Igebotz, and you will follow up appropriately. You are the one who asked for the evidence.

Unlimited Money Generator, also never claimed, to be able to cure the Universe, either.

To answer, some more of your questions:

why do you need us? I don't need money from you all. You all are the catalysts, of my network. You all control, the fluidity, of the market. And create the economy, used, so at all times, even if you have no money, you can still make money. As if you had a regular job. By investing in your economies.

Why do you want others to believe in your project? Because everyone, on earth should be using this. It can help people. If you get laid, off, you can generate, revenue using this. Homeless, people, can find, a source of income. More people, on earth, can find financial freedom.

You also do not need a degree, or complex knowledge. Within a day or two, you can potentially learn a trade, more lucrative, than someone with a college, degree.

If it's genuinely effective, why not utilise it just for yourself? It's not effective. unless, hundreds, of people are playing 24/7. To be an unlimited money generator, it requires, an insane, amount of resources. Specifically, speaking the official servers, have not started and no one is playing yet.

Money not included. Resources, being people.

I can generate, revenue helping a bunch of people generate revenue, using my Gambling X, and Trading X technology.

I don't have to screw people over, to make money. I can make money helping people.

That's the harsh truth.

If I cannot help anyone, generate revenue, then I cannot make any money.

You all won't let me help you, so I can't generate any money from you all.

This message, is signed by Tayton, J Davis.

Hey UMG, I'm writing this reply to all of your recent posts on this thread.

First of all, cut the shit with the UMG promotion. This is not the place for it. I'm sick of seeing your posts spamming the forum with your bullshit.

Secondly, I've seen the accusations of ban evasion and spamming, and while you deny them, I suggest you address them directly and provide evidence to clear your name. Ignoring these concerns only makes you look more suspicious.

Thirdly, stop mentioning popular members without their consent. It's fucking shady and creates a false impression.

And Igebotz, you should flag this user here.

As I have, said, before, I have already proven, claims, that UMG, was an unethical or unsustainable program to be false.

I always, oblige, users, detect scams, and report them, after, doing healthy research.

But if you cannot provide, a tangible, source of evidence, to support your claims. Or your claims, have already been proven false or invalid.

You cannot harass, this user, about the same, claim. That is spam.

Poker Player, already gave you a warning.

If you have a personal problem, then ignore it like the veteran members suggest. It is a forum, that is not revolving around you. If you are tired, of seeing the posts relating to UMG, simply mute, and ignore the posts.

But please, do not spam, the entities, regarding a claim, that has already been voided.

LOL homeboy got banned... wonder what it was for, I've been trying not to pay attention to him lately

He was on a ticking time bomb; I reported him for ban evasion - we expected a change in character after the 7 days tempo ban but that was not the case. With his reputation, he was practically going to get zero patronage here; all he needed was a TikTok or Facebook account to entice those greedy, gullible users looking to make a fast cash without asking the necessary questions.

He will undoubtedly start a new account, but he cannot do it without marketing his business as usual, so detecting him will be easy. He has all the energy( determined, outspoken, passionate and all that) but if only he was putting them at the right places.

Oowwhhh... I was just about to write a post to him yesterday that his post are numbered and he better made it worth by posting a ban appeal. Sad that I can't help him so he can help us.

Mehh, it's fine, I'll have a chance on the next account he create. Give him a week or two. It'll rather be easy to tell that it's him, though, we just need to look at the size of the head.

He is linked to the GluttonyY profile that is already banned, and then he decided to unapologetically evade ban. Good riddance.

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That would be so stupid of him. Even Zoltan (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5365992.0) aka was way more zealous (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5179710.0), but he eventually gave up.

How can you all still entertain this delusional kid.

The chances of him getting any consideration are zero - I would advise him to create a TikTok or Facebook account, or better yet, use a publication service (I do not accept this type of gig) to run his ads; BTT users are simply too intelligent to fall for something like that.

Contacted one of the users who invested $30 in the UMG scheme, made x3 profits, and then lost everything the next day; this is a ponzi scheme.