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Title: Ballon d'Or Odds 2023/2024
Post by: rdluffy on June 06, 2024, 10:41:08 PM
Today I saw a list of odds for the Ballon d'Or and I wasn't too surprised
I think Vinicius JR will win this time, however, if Bellingham or Mbapee win the Euro and play some great games, that chance may be reduced

Vini Jr - 1.40
Bellingham - 4.00
Mbappé - 11.00
Tony Kross - 12.00
Harry Kane - 21.00

What do you think? Will you place the bet? Is there another player to include?



Title: Re: Ballon d'Or Odds 2023/2024
Post by: Stepstowealth on June 06, 2024, 10:51:29 PM
Today I saw a list of odds for the Ballon d'Or and I wasn't too surprised
I think Vinicius JR will win this time, however, if Bellingham or Mbapee win the Euro and play some great games, that chance may be reduced
All arrows point to Vini Jr, but if England wins the European men's football competition, it will mean that Jude Bellingham has won the la Liga, the champions League and then the European competition in one football season, that will be a very big achievement that will be difficult to ignore.

For Mbappe, even though France wins the Euro's, he still does not deserve it, he should wait until next season.


Title: Re: Ballon d'Or Odds 2023/2024
Post by: Agbamoni on June 06, 2024, 11:07:36 PM
Today I saw a list of odds for the Ballon d'Or and I wasn't too surprised
I think Vinicius JR will win this time, however, if Bellingham or Mbapee win the Euro and play some great games, that chance may be reduced
All arrows point to Vini Jr, but if England wins the European men's football competition, it will mean that Jude Bellingham has won the la Liga, the champions League and then the European competition in one football season, that will be a very big achievement that will be difficult to ignore.

For Mbappe, even though France wins the Euro's, he still does not deserve it, he should wait until next season.
Don't think it comes so easy for Bellingham if he wins it. This dude had just come to Real Madrid, and he is lucky to have won several trophies since he came, in his debut season he won the La Liga and the next season won the Champions league. Dude is so lucky i must say. But in terms of who deserved it i think Vinicius does.

I agree with you that Mbappe is way out of the league of heroes. I still feel for him because all his effort has not paid off at all. He has always been this close to success but gets defeat at the end.


Title: Re: Ballon d'Or Odds 2023/2024
Post by: Davidvictorson on June 07, 2024, 01:57:54 PM
All arrows point to Vini Jr, but if England wins the European men's football competition, it will mean that Jude Bellingham has won the la Liga, the champions League and then the European competition in one football season, that will be a very big achievement that will be difficult to ignore.

For Mbappe, even though France wins the Euro's, he still does not deserve it, he should wait until next season.
This award will go to Vini Jr. It doesn't matter if England wins the European football competition or not, by the way they aren't going to win. They may be topic 3 but not going to win. Vini Jr has been phenomenal and he deserves this even his stats say it.He has won the best player in the UCL and the UCL finals, scored 3 goals between the semi finals and finals and in terms of dribbling and plays that come from him in big games is unmatched. The whole team looks for him and relies on him. However, if they decide to give it to Mbappe, then I know that it was out of favoritism and not any serious achievement.


Title: Re: Ballon d'Or Odds 2023/2024
Post by: Oneandpure on June 07, 2024, 02:24:23 PM
Likely between Vinicius Jr and Jude Bellingham will be interested players candidate for winning Ballon d'Or Odds 2023/2024 depend with Mbappe or Harry Kane after failure with their club for winning UEFA Champion League trophy. Usually indicator for winning Ballon d'Or depend on players achievement with Champion League competition after success winning domestic league with their team.
Between Vinicius Jr and Jude Bellingham have dominance performance with Real Madrid in this season but Vinicius Jr more better perform in Champion League than  Jude Bellingham.
If have opportunity I will vote for Vinicius Jr because he made difference perform for Real Madrid actually in Champion League match and become best players at UCL competition.


Title: Re: Ballon d'Or Odds 2023/2024
Post by: Frankolala on June 07, 2024, 02:32:17 PM
Today I saw a list of odds for the Ballon d'Or and I wasn't too surprised
I think Vinicius JR will win this time, however, if Bellingham or Mbapee win the Euro and play some great games, that chance may be reduced
All arrows point to Vini Jr, but if England wins the European men's football competition, it will mean that Jude Bellingham has won the la Liga, the champions League and then the European competition in one football season, that will be a very big achievement that will be difficult to ignore.

For Mbappe, even though France wins the Euro's, he still does not deserve it, he should wait until next season.
I agree with you based on your thoughts on Jude Bellingham have a high chance compared to now, if England wins Euro's. On the other hand if Brazil can also win Copa America, it will increase the chance of Vini winning Ballon D'or because currently he has the highest chance of winning.

Mbappe did nothing extraordinary this season a d he did not win the world cup too, which makes him have a lower chance of winning. Maybe next season, Mbappe will be the winner of Ballon D'or since he is now in Real Madrid, the home of trophies and provides an opportunity for good achievement to their players.


Title: Re: Ballon d'Or Odds 2023/2024
Post by: rangga28 on June 07, 2024, 02:40:46 PM
Likely between Vinicius Jr and Jude Bellingham will be interested players candidate for winning Ballon d'Or Odds 2023/2024 depend with Mbappe or Harry Kane after failure with their club for winning UEFA Champion League trophy. Usually indicator for winning Ballon d'Or depend on players achievement with Champion League competition after success winning domestic league with their team.
Between Vinicius Jr and Jude Bellingham have dominance performance with Real Madrid in this season but Vinicius Jr more better perform in Champion League than  Jude Bellingham.
If have opportunity I will vote for Vinicius Jr because he made difference perform for Real Madrid actually in Champion League match and become best players at UCL competition.
The two young Real Madrid players are extraordinary, they have made a big contribution to their team. However, for the Ballon d'Or I have to choose Toni Kroos because he has also given great dedication to European and world football. Vini and Bellingham are still young, maybe they still have high hopes of achieving that, while Kroos has declared his retirement and he really deserves to be given this award.


Title: Re: Ballon d'Or Odds 2023/2024
Post by: HajiBagi on June 07, 2024, 02:42:57 PM
Today I saw a list of odds for the Ballon d'Or and I wasn't too surprised
I think Vinicius JR will win this time, however, if Bellingham or Mbapee win the Euro and play some great games, that chance may be reduced

Vini Jr - 1.40
Bellingham - 4.00
Mbappé - 11.00
Tony Kross - 12.00
Harry Kane - 21.00

What do you think? Will you place the bet? Is there another player to include?



The only players that deserve this Ballon Dior are Vinicius and Jude Bellingham, these two players are the favorite to win the award unless the FIFA doesn’t want to give them and goes and gives it to Messi as they used to do, the reason why I said the FIFA use to give Messi the ballondior is because last season i don’t think he deserves it but it was giving to him and this season it may happen again, i don’t even see any reason why Messi can win the award so if we later hear that Messi win it that means the FIFA is the one favoring Messi as people say, but let be honest Vinicius and Bellingham are the ones that deserve this award.

I have seen many arguments about Vinicius and Bellingham who is supposed to win the award, many people say that Bellingham should be ahead of Vinicius but for me I think Vinicius has done more than Bellingham this season in terms of showing his talent when it comes to champion league, when it comes to champion league Vinicius always try his best more than Bellingham, although Bellingham tries and help Real Madrid in Laliga league because if it is not because of him when Real Madrid players are getting injured from the beginning of the season the team will not be able to win the trophy, and he scores in both El Classico that help Real Madrid to win the match against Barcelona.


Title: Re: Ballon d'Or Odds 2023/2024
Post by: Plaguedeath on June 07, 2024, 02:44:29 PM
WTF, who's the person that create this shit? if Vinicius win Ballon d'Or it's obviously robbed again, there's no way this Crybaby can win Ballon d'Or this season. This is an individual skill, the rest 4 players are correct because they give big impact to their own respective teams, while Vinicius is get carried by Bellingham.

France has very high chance to win EURO because nothing can beat them.

https://imgvb.com/images/2024/06/07/580662dc8d7048343b2b95de7bc14647.png


Title: Re: Ballon d'Or Odds 2023/2024
Post by: rdluffy on June 07, 2024, 03:11:39 PM
All arrows point to Vini Jr, but if England wins the European men's football competition, it will mean that Jude Bellingham has won the la Liga, the champions League and then the European competition in one football season, that will be a very big achievement that will be difficult to ignore.

For Mbappe, even though France wins the Euro's, he still does not deserve it, he should wait until next season.

The Euro has more weight than the Copa America, but Vini Jr also has a good chance of winning another title this season with Brazil
I'd go as far as to say that the Brazilian national team has as good a chance of winning the Copa America as France has of winning the Euro
Both cases are very difficult to compare, but I think the title will still go to Vini Jr

But even so, I believe it will generate discussion since there are always injustices in these choices, both players played VERY well this year, they stood out from the rest


Title: Re: Ballon d'Or Odds 2023/2024
Post by: Nheer on June 07, 2024, 03:37:19 PM
Today I saw a list of odds for the Ballon d'Or and I wasn't too surprised
I think Vinicius JR will win this time, however, if Bellingham or Mbapee win the Euro and play some great games, that chance may be reduced

Vini Jr - 1.40
Bellingham - 4.00
Mbappé - 11.00
Tony Kross - 12.00
Harry Kane - 21.00

What do you think? Will you place the bet? Is there another player to include?
It all depends what happens in the international competitions, who ever has a better performance for their respective teams will likely win the ballon D’or. We have  seen it in the past how Messi and Modric won it just because they had a good performance in the World Cup. So i feel if England wins the Euro Bellingham will surely win the award and if Brazil wins i think Vinicius has a better chance of winning it.

So far from club football Vini Jr is the favorite and from all indications he has more chances of winning it but in years of international competition like this, club football is not the only determining factor, and any of the above mentioned players that has a better performance in the upcoming competitions will have more chances of winning it.

If Messi wins the Copa America  he will probably go home with another award this year again  ;D


Title: Re: Ballon d'Or Odds 2023/2024
Post by: rdluffy on June 08, 2024, 01:07:55 PM
It all depends what happens in the international competitions, who ever has a better performance for their respective teams will likely win the ballon D’or. We have  seen it in the past how Messi and Modric won it just because they had a good performance in the World Cup. So i feel if England wins the Euro Bellingham will surely win the award and if Brazil wins i think Vinicius has a better chance of winning it.

So far from club football Vini Jr is the favorite and from all indications he has more chances of winning it but in years of international competition like this, club football is not the only determining factor, and any of the above mentioned players that has a better performance in the upcoming competitions will have more chances of winning it.

If Messi wins the Copa America  he will probably go home with another award this year again  ;D

I think it's almost impossible for Messi to win the Ballon d'Or this year, since he's playing in the United States
The European championships carry much more weight in the decisions
Maybe only if Messi wins the Copa America on his own, scoring lots of goals, making unbelievable plays, etc., but even then, I think it's quite difficult

Interestingly, the last Brazilian player to win the award was Kaka in 2007 when he was playing for Milan


Title: Re: Ballon d'Or Odds 2023/2024
Post by: Nheer on June 08, 2024, 01:23:49 PM
It all depends what happens in the international competitions, who ever has a better performance for their respective teams will likely win the ballon D’or. We have  seen it in the past how Messi and Modric won it just because they had a good performance in the World Cup. So i feel if England wins the Euro Bellingham will surely win the award and if Brazil wins i think Vinicius has a better chance of winning it.

So far from club football Vini Jr is the favorite and from all indications he has more chances of winning it but in years of international competition like this, club football is not the only determining factor, and any of the above mentioned players that has a better performance in the upcoming competitions will have more chances of winning it.

If Messi wins the Copa America  he will probably go home with another award this year again  ;D

I think it's almost impossible for Messi to win the Ballon d'Or this year, since he's playing in the United States
The European championships carry much more weight in the decisions
Maybe only if Messi wins the Copa America on his own, scoring lots of goals, making unbelievable plays, etc., but even then, I think it's quite difficult

Interestingly, the last Brazilian player to win the award was Kaka in 2007 when he was playing for Milan
I don’t think if is impossible, this is messi we are talking about Don’t forget he won his last Ballon D’or while playing in the United States, he only scored couple of penalties in Qatar to lead his country to victory after defeating France. It’s no surprise if Messi should win it again because they place more value on international competitions than club competitions. In my view Haaland had a better year than him but winning the world cup changed everything.

You can’t rule Messi out just yet, he might pull an incredible performance in Copa America.


Title: Re: Ballon d'Or Odds 2023/2024
Post by: Distraction on June 08, 2024, 02:08:55 PM
It feels really different to have Ballon d'Or odds without Messi and Ronaldo in top places... Anyway, I think the winner of the prize is going to be one of Vinicius Jr - Bellingham - Mbappe trio.

However I must admit that I'm surprised with seeing Vinicius Jr that highly favourite.  ???  Of course he also had a great season but wasn't Bellingham better in general? I mean the statistics. Bellingham played really extra this season. Maybe even better than Ancelotti expected him to play. Mbappe was like a goal machine. But we should take the big quality gap between the La Liga and Ligue 1 into account also. I think he is the least likely to win the prize.

Maybe I might bet on Bellingham @4.00 as it looks attracting.  :P


Title: Re: Ballon d'Or Odds 2023/2024
Post by: abhiseshakana on June 08, 2024, 02:44:22 PM
Three Real Madrid players are candidates to win the 2024 Ballon d'Or, but in my opinion, of the three players, only Vini and Bellingham can really be the winners. Mbappe will only have a chance if he can play well at Euro 2024, and France comes out as champions. Euro 2024 will also be an opportunity for Bellingham to increase his chances of getting the Ballon d'Or, and the same goes for Vinicius Jr, where the Copa America can be a stage to get him closer to lifting the Ballon d'Or trophy.


Title: Re: Ballon d'Or Odds 2023/2024
Post by: bitLeap on June 08, 2024, 02:53:03 PM
Today I saw a list of odds for the Ballon d'Or and I wasn't too surprised
I think Vinicius JR will win this time, however, if Bellingham or Mbapee win the Euro and play some great games, that chance may be reduced

Vini Jr - 1.40
Bellingham - 4.00
Mbappé - 11.00
Tony Kross - 12.00
Harry Kane - 21.00

What do you think? Will you place the bet? Is there another player to include?



England were not very promising in the last 5 matches so Bellingham also got fewer opportunities, including Harry Kane, who failed in every team he played for. Then Mbappe achievements with PSG and the French national team were not very impressive. Vini has a bigger chance and also deserves to get the Ballon D'or supported by statistics this season with Real Madrid. Kroos is also a strong candidate as the player on the list of candidates to have the most UCL trophies of all time. Not only that, returning to the German national team also had a positive impact and achieved quite good wins compared to last season.
In conclusion, I would include Vini and Kroos as one of the candidates who are closer to the Ballon D'or trophy.


Title: Re: Ballon d'Or Odds 2023/2024
Post by: ajiz138 on June 08, 2024, 02:59:28 PM
I haven't placed any bets on the Ballon d'Or odds while the EURO and Copa America championships are still decisive.

As of now Vini still has a lot of votes according to some sources but it's not certain that they will get it depending on the national team championship later that's my opinion.

To be honest, I'm not sure about Bellingham because bringing England to the championship is more difficult especially now experiencing a reshuffle of the squad, I'm not so sure unless France and Mbappe can hold it.


Title: Re: Ballon d'Or Odds 2023/2024
Post by: Zlantann on June 08, 2024, 03:02:53 PM
Today I saw a list of odds for the Ballon d'Or and I wasn't too surprised
I think Vinicius JR will win this time, however, if Bellingham or Mbapee win the Euro and play some great games, that chance may be reduced

Vini Jr - 1.40
Bellingham - 4.00
Mbappé - 11.00
Tony Kross - 12.00
Harry Kane - 21.00

What do you think? Will you place the bet? Is there another player to include?

It will take an exceptional performance from Jude Bellingham and Kylian Mbappé in the Euro for them to beat Vini Jr to this award. The Brazilian have done exceptionally well this season both in Madrid and the Brazilian national team. His fast pace and dribbling abilities contributed to the success of Real success. Jude is not also a potential winner of the Ballon d'Or 2023/2024 if the three loins win or at least get to the finals of the Euro and he makes some remarkable contributions. He won the UCL and he made a great impact in the club in just one year, so it could also give him an edge. Mbappe didn't have a good season in his club PSG, so his chances of winning will solely depend on the Euro. I want to include players like Phil Foden for his exceptional performance in Manchester City last season. Florian Wirtz should also be on the list for his contribution to the exploits and historical season of Bayer Leverkusen.


Title: Re: Ballon d'Or Odds 2023/2024
Post by: Hewlet on June 08, 2024, 03:10:00 PM
WTF, who's the person that create this shit? if Vinicius win Ballon d'Or it's obviously robbed again, there's no way this Crybaby can win Ballon d'Or this season. This is an individual skill, the rest 4 players are correct because they give big impact to their own respective teams, while Vinicius is get carried by Bellingham.

France has very high chance to win EURO because nothing can beat them.

https://imgvb.com/images/2024/06/07/580662dc8d7048343b2b95de7bc14647.png
what are you even saying? You mean vini jnr isn't impacting his team or what? Have you really watched him play for his club? Except you're trying to be too sentimental and biased here, the only people that comes close to him on that list in terms of being a strong support to his club is just harry Kane and tony Kross. Vini jnr has been the central point behinds real Madrid ability to winning the champions league and this is not just about is last goals in the finals, he's been instrumental throughout the season even though he got injured and went off the pitch for a while. It's understandable if you're painting the mbape scenario as a case where he lacks the kind of support from his players just like vinicious jnr but even with that, Kane hasn't been as instrumental as vini jnr.


Title: Re: Ballon d'Or Odds 2023/2024
Post by: Spaceman1000$ on June 08, 2024, 03:12:29 PM
Today I saw a list of odds for the Ballon d'Or and I wasn't too surprised
I think Vinicius JR will win this time, however, if Bellingham or Mbapee win the Euro and play some great games, that chance may be reduced

Vini Jr - 1.40
Bellingham - 4.00
Mbappé - 11.00
Tony Kross - 12.00
Harry Kane - 21.00

What do you think? Will you place the bet? Is there another player to include?


I see they  are not giving any chance to Erling Haaland, if Harry Kane and Toni kroos can make the list, then why not Haaland, he was outstanding throughout the whole season for Manchester city, at least the only player that would have come from the English league. Vinicius junior is likely to be the winner, because of his individual brilliance, he is one player that will never get hold of the ball and move backwards, he will always want to push the ball forward towards the opponent and make a one on one dribble. Since the Ballon d'Or is an individual award for excellence, I will not be surprised if vinicius junior Wins it.


Title: Re: Ballon d'Or Odds 2023/2024
Post by: Zackz5000 on June 08, 2024, 03:17:47 PM
Today I saw a list of odds for the Ballon d'Or and I wasn't too surprised
I think Vinicius JR will win this time, however, if Bellingham or Mbapee win the Euro and play some great games, that chance may be reduced
All arrows point to Vini Jr, but if England wins the European men's football competition, it will mean that Jude Bellingham has won the la Liga, the champions League and then the European competition in one football season, that will be a very big achievement that will be difficult to ignore.

For Mbappe, even though France wins the Euro's, he still does not deserve it, he should wait until next season.
You can only say so because Kylian Mbappe did not win this year UEFA champions league or coming closer to the final, but if the Ballon d'Or where to be given by individual effort I believe Kylian Mbappe will be the favorite the win it because he doesn't match any of the above listed players by the Op. Kylian Mbappe won the French league one top scorer also won the league one title with PSG and did well in the UEFA champions league despite not winning the trophy but since most time it is been given to a player that either won the UEFA champions league or the world cup.
But since it's not individual effort Vinicius Jr and Bellingham are in good condition to win this year Ballon d'Or.


Title: Re: Ballon d'Or Odds 2023/2024
Post by: Franctoshi on June 08, 2024, 03:22:03 PM
WTF, who's the person that create this shit? if Vinicius win Ballon d'Or it's obviously robbed again, there's no way this Crybaby can win Ballon d'Or this season. This is an individual skill, the rest 4 players are correct because they give big impact to their own respective teams, while Vinicius is get carried by Bellingham.

France has very high chance to win EURO because nothing can beat them.

https://imgvb.com/images/2024/06/07/580662dc8d7048343b2b95de7bc14647.png
Is like/I kind of think you have a personal problem with this young player with the way you reacted about the nomination of this player, because Vinicius contributed a lot last season to real madrid success in winning the La Liga trophy and in lifting the Champions League trophy, even when he didn't score a goal in a match his impact alone in creating chances for other players to score is highly commendable and comparing his performance with the other nominated players, it's clear that Vinicius performed more than all of them, However let's wait for the outcome ,but to me I will vote Vinicius back to back when it comes to voting for who should win the Ballon d'Or.


Title: Re: Ballon d'Or Odds 2023/2024
Post by: tsaroz on June 08, 2024, 03:42:22 PM
WTF, who's the person that create this shit? if Vinicius win Ballon d'Or it's obviously robbed again, there's no way this Crybaby can win Ballon d'Or this season. This is an individual skill, the rest 4 players are correct because they give big impact to their own respective teams, while Vinicius is get carried by Bellingham.

France has very high chance to win EURO because nothing can beat them.

Is like/I kind of think you have a personal problem with this young player with the way you reacted about the nomination of this player, because Vinicius contributed a lot last season to real madrid success in winning the La Liga trophy and in lifting the Champions League trophy, even when he didn't score a goal in a match his impact alone in creating chances for other players to score is highly commendable and comparing his performance with the other nominated players, it's clear that Vinicius performed more than all of them, However let's wait for the outcome ,but to me I will vote Vinicius back to back when it comes to voting for who should win the Ballon d'Or.

Many sports Pundits do believe that Vinicius Jr. have a good chance of winning it but the performance by the teams of Jude Bellingham, Kylian Mbappe and Toni Kroos at the Euro cup and their individual performance may change the choices as it would fall under the current season. England, France or Germany winning the Euro cup would be a great boost to those players chances. And even though Messi playing in a US league was awarded the last years trophy, europe is favored most than others.


Title: Re: Ballon d'Or Odds 2023/2024
Post by: Stepstowealth on June 08, 2024, 04:37:15 PM
WTF, who's the person that create this shit? if Vinicius win Ballon d'Or it's obviously robbed again, there's no way this Crybaby can win Ballon d'Or this season. This is an individual skill, the rest 4 players are correct because they give big impact to their own respective teams, while Vinicius is get carried by Bellingham.
I think your opinion is biased and based on personal emotions, maybe how you feel towards the player because everyone knows that Vinicius has been Real Madrid's most dangerous player all season. Bellingham had a wonderful first season in the club, and has to be the second option for the award because it was his first season in the club, and although he contributed fairly to the successful season that Real Madrid has had, The success of this season is not new to Real Madrid because it is not the first time in their history where they won the La Liga and the Champions League as well.

Maybe next season we will think Bellingham or Mbappe, but it will now depend on how important they mold themselves to be for the club.


Title: Re: Ballon d'Or Odds 2023/2024
Post by: Zlantann on June 08, 2024, 06:08:15 PM
WTF, who's the person that create this shit? if Vinicius win Ballon d'Or it's obviously robbed again, there's no way this Crybaby can win Ballon d'Or this season.

I might not be correct but I find your comment about Vinicius Junior unacceptable. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but calling him a crybaby sounds provocative. If I can remember, the only time the Brazilian striker cried was when he was subjected to a racist attack during Real Madrid's loss against Valencia. The next time he shed tears was during a press conference where he was advocating for the stopping of racial attacks against blacks.

Mocking him because of his emotional reactions seems to me that you are not concerned about his pain. It is also worthwhile to state that the Ballon d'Or is not won by emotional expressions but by performance and when it comes to that the Brazilian deserves to win it. Many emotional players have achieved great heights in football and some examples are David Beckham, Cristiano Ronaldo, Neymar, Messi, etc.


Title: Re: Ballon d'Or Odds 2023/2024
Post by: Palakka on June 08, 2024, 06:11:33 PM
Many sports Pundits do believe that Vinicius Jr. have a good chance of winning it but the performance by the teams of Jude Bellingham, Kylian Mbappe and Toni Kroos at the Euro cup and their individual performance may change the choices as it would fall under the current season. England, France or Germany winning the Euro cup would be a great boost to those players chances. And even though Messi playing in a US league was awarded the last years trophy, europe is favored most than others.
I think previously the era of Ronaldo and Messi in competing for the Ballon d'Or has ended after they both are now competing outside the Europa League, but in fact Messi is still able to get it even though it is possible that the assessment was made before he moved to Mls, currently several players are of course strong candidates to win the Ballon d'Or such as Vinicius, Mbappe,  Belingham, Phil Foden and also Florian Wirtz, all of those players have a great chance of winning the Ballon d'or after all their achievements this season,  because all of them managed to win and help their team in the league to win the championship trophy, although indeed the Madrid player may look more complex after they were able to win two prestigious trophies this season, namely La Liga and the Champions League.

Vinicius is certainly a strong candidate to win the Ballon d'Or this season and I think he will compete closely with Bellingham after all their achievements this season with Madrid, but of course those chances could change if Mbappe, Belingham, Phil Foden and also Florian Wirtz help their country win the Euro 2024 trophy and I think it will be a huge plus for the potential Ballon d'Or winners.



Title: Re: Ballon d'Or Odds 2023/2024
Post by: Sunderland on June 08, 2024, 06:41:57 PM
I see they  are not giving any chance to Erling Haaland, if Harry Kane and Toni kroos can make the list, then why not Haaland, he was outstanding throughout the whole season for Manchester city, at least the only player that would have come from the English league.
Because Norway have failed to qualify for Euro 2024, if Haaland came from another country that qualified for the Euro, he would definitely be nominated for the Ballon d'Or in this year.

Since the Ballon d'Or is an individual award for excellence, I will not be surprised if vinicius junior Wins it.
The Ballon d'Or assessment is not only based on individual performance, but also based on team (club/national team) success during the previous season and player behavior/fair play.


Title: Re: Ballon d'Or Odds 2023/2024
Post by: ILuckyGuyI on June 08, 2024, 07:09:53 PM
Isn't 11.00 too high for Mbappe? His individual performance has been amazing. But I guess he is losing because of team success probably. Becoming the Ligue 1 champions must have a really slight positive effect. PSG couldn't win the Champions League either so that must be why. Otherwise with those incredible stats no way he is getting this high odds.  :)

I looked into the detailed odds and saw that Messi is even more favourite than Haaland - 34.00 for Messi, 41.00 for Haaland. Just what is this? Who cares about the MLS in the first place, it is hard to understand...

As for my betting choice, it would be Bellingham I guess. Betting on Vinicius Jr looks like a bigger risk to me.


Title: Re: Ballon d'Or Odds 2023/2024
Post by: boltz on June 08, 2024, 08:00:02 PM
I think whoever wins it , it will be from Real Madrid team for sure. There is no other player who deserve it from other team besides Haaland but he didn't make a single great game in UCL and that counts a lot. Maybe Kross will take it ? Maybe Vini Jr ? because besides there 3 players , I really cannot see other player take it.


Title: Re: Ballon d'Or Odds 2023/2024
Post by: Oluwa-btc on June 08, 2024, 09:08:30 PM
Today I saw a list of odds for the Ballon d'Or and I wasn't too surprised
I think Vinicius JR will win this time, however, if Bellingham or Mbapee win the Euro and play some great games, that chance may be reduced

Vini Jr - 1.40
Bellingham - 4.00
Mbappé - 11.00
Tony Kross - 12.00
Harry Kane - 21.00

What do you think? Will you place the bet? Is there another player to include?

Not even the UEFA European Competition would displace Vinicius Junior from winning the Ballon d'or, he's earned it as well deserves it.

Jude Bellingham had a great first season but in the Champions League Competition, Vinicius Junior made more impact than him atmost the assist for Valverde and then the goals scored against Bayern Munich on both meetings.

No! We'll see more of Kylian Mbappe next season with Real Madrid, he should be lined up for the award, t's one of the reasons why he's a Real Madrid player.
Toni Kroos only focused on retirement, take the Ballon d'or award aside, I'm sure he'll be voting for Vinicius Junior if he was captain of German national team.


Title: Re: Ballon d'Or Odds 2023/2024
Post by: nelson4lov on June 08, 2024, 10:23:05 PM
My money is Vini Jr to win the Balloon D'or this year. Although he is a surprise nominee this year but he's one nominee that I do think is worth being on the list of contenders. Vini has improved over the years and as someone that has destroyed Liverpool on multiple occasions, I doubt if anyone else on thar list have come close the the number of contributions that he has made this season to his club and country. Honorable mentions to Bellingham and Kane, both of whom I think made significant impacts this season. But it's definitely Vini for me.


Title: Re: Ballon d'Or Odds 2023/2024
Post by: Obim34 on June 09, 2024, 01:43:34 PM
My money is Vini Jr to win the Balloon D'or this year. Although he is a surprise nominee this year but he's one nominee that I do think is worth being on the list of contenders. Vini has improved over the years and as someone that has destroyed Liverpool on multiple occasions, I doubt if anyone else on thar list have come close the the number of contributions that he has made this season to his club and country. Honorable mentions to Bellingham and Kane, both of whom I think made significant impacts this season. But it's definitely Vini for me.
Among all the listed nominations, Vinicius is the surest to win the Balloon d'Or, for any player to win it aside him then clearly he was rubbed from it. Bellingham is a good player but comparing the influence of Vinicius to Bellingham we can see a huge difference, so Vinicius deserves to win his first Balloon d'Or. After Vinicius the second nominee base on my personal likings would be for Kane, he deserves it, despite having no trophy to back up but he did perform really good this season. Over everything my money would be bet on Vinicius, he truly deserves it. 


Title: Re: Ballon d'Or Odds 2023/2024
Post by: Plaguedeath on June 10, 2024, 04:47:40 AM
because Vinicius contributed a lot last season to real madrid success in winning the La Liga trophy and in lifting the Champions League trophy
He or Bellingham who contribute the most in La Liga this season? statistic speak out.

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Many sports Pundits do believe that Vinicius Jr. have a good chance of winning it but the performance by the teams of Jude Bellingham, Kylian Mbappe and Toni Kroos at the Euro cup and their individual performance may change the choices as it would fall under the current season. England, France or Germany winning the Euro cup would be a great boost to those players chances. And even though Messi playing in a US league was awarded the last years trophy, europe is favored most than others.
You shouldn't make it unfair, Brazil also joined the international cup which is Copa America, it's similar to EURO, the difference is just the nations. So any player has a chance to show off their capability in international cup, which I believe Mbappe will shine this time.


Title: Re: Ballon d'Or Odds 2023/2024
Post by: Hirose UK on June 10, 2024, 05:19:38 AM
My money is Vini Jr to win the Balloon D'or this year. Although he is a surprise nominee this year but he's one nominee that I do think is worth being on the list of contenders. Vini has improved over the years and as someone that has destroyed Liverpool on multiple occasions, I doubt if anyone else on thar list have come close the the number of contributions that he has made this season to his club and country. Honorable mentions to Bellingham and Kane, both of whom I think made significant impacts this season. But it's definitely Vini for me.
Among all the listed nominations, Vinicius is the surest to win the Balloon d'Or, for any player to win it aside him then clearly he was rubbed from it. Bellingham is a good player but comparing the influence of Vinicius to Bellingham we can see a huge difference, so Vinicius deserves to win his first Balloon d'Or. After Vinicius the second nominee base on my personal likings would be for Kane, he deserves it, despite having no trophy to back up but he did perform really good this season. Over everything my money would be bet on Vinicius, he truly deserves it. 
If look at who is the favorite to win the Ballon d'Or then it cannot be denied that Vinicius Jr is the player who is the most popular and is always linked as the winner of the 2024 Ballon d'Or.
Initially, Mbappe and Haaland were the two strongest candidates to win the 2024 Ballon d'Or title, but after the 2023/24 season finished, everything changed and Real Madrid players had the highest chance of winning the annual title as best player.
Now the Ballon d'Or as whole has three players who are the strongest candidates to win it, first the favorite is Vinicius Jr, then there is Bellingham and after that Mbappe, the three of them have quite tight competition even though next season they will be team mate.
It is difficult to just predict because all decisions are in the hands of the organizers officials because everything could happen in surprising way or not as expected based on existing statistics.
Our hope is that the implementation of the Ballon d'Or for the 2024 season can be carried out in truly transparent and fair manner, lest an incident like previously season occur and cause negative sentiment among football fans.