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Just remembered that I have written the recovery seed phrase of my Electrum on a piece of paper somewhere in my place. I'm wondering what could go wrong since my place isn't too secured.  How about trying to memorize it? Is it possible?

Would you try?
What are the benefits? ... and the setbacks.

Definitely it's possible to memorize it which can be easier if it's 12 words and the difficulty increases according to the length of your seed, but how long you can remember it varies and if I were you I won't put my money on my memory over simply writing it on a paper.

Benefits : No one can access it

Negative: Even you can forget it and if you don't have backup then you lost your wallet forever.

Its very risky and not advisible to memorize your seed as the human memory might fail and you may end up losing your access to your fund. It's better to write it down and store in a safe places then if you so wish to use a brain wallet, then you just do it for the fun of it.

This is known as Brain Wallet [1], which uses the method of memorizing phrases and it is possible to do it as long as your memory is strong. For me, i would never use it because i realize that i have a lot more to remember than just phrases.

The benefits? of course only you know this phrase, better than any wallet.

[1] https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Brainwallet

It’s possible to memorize it but it’s definitely not the best thing to do. If it was safe to memorize recovery phrases then the wallet developers should have suggested it among the safest ways to store your phrases. I would suggest you not to try it because missing a word will put your entire assets at risk.

Of course not, i am not so good at memorizing things because i don’t have a retentive memory.

Our Memory on thus can't be trusted, us either we forget some part or the arrangements in the long run.

I don't see anything benefit of it, writing offline private key/seed phrase is much better, if you think it's not safe in your place, you can add a passphrase which will make it possible that even if someone get your recovery phrase, they still can't access your coins except they also get your passphrase.
Though you can also try wallet encryption.

No, I wouldnt try it, and I don't see any benefits.  Memorizing your seed is risky because people forget stuff all the time.  Like sure, some folks have great memories, but most of us will probably mess it up eventually.  Instead, I would suggest writing it down and keeping it locked away somewhere secure.  That way its there if you need it.  But hey if you wanna try using a brain wallet for fun, go for it! Just maybe dont put all your life savings in there if you know your memory isnt perfect.  I mean, losing access to your funds would be a major bummer, dont you think?

What is the essence of trying to memorise the recovery phrase? Even if your brain is computer, of all the things in this world it is the recovery phrase you want to memorise? Have you thought about the risk when your brain begins to play tricks on you? Even if I can memorise my recovery phrase, I will not be tempted to try it because I'm not ready to male silly mistake that will cost me my sweat. A lot of posts have already been made on how to back them up, so that should be our focus.

It depends. If it was a 12 word seed, no problem. 24 word? That could pose a challenge.
The problem is I would find it to be risky for large amounts of money. I'd be gambling, betting on my ability to remember everything right after some time. That's where the weakness lies. I tend to forget unused things, so every day I'd have to say it in my mind before going to bed to remember it, so it's fresh in the memory. Feels like some unnecessary burden.

I would never try it, i see some members saying it's possible with a 12 word seed phrase, that is a very bad advise. It may seem possible in the first few weeks and months, but with time you are going to forget it, and if you don't completely forget, you'll mess up the correct arrangement. Do not ever memorize your seed phrase, or else you'll lock yourself out of your funds.

If you are worried about the safety of your seed phrase, you can extend it with a passphrase and keep the backup in a different location from your seed phrase, or you simply set up a multisig wallet, which gives you extra security.

You're talking about memorizing 12 words, not that hard!


The benefits are that you will not have to access your secret stash where you keep your private key every time you need to restore your wallet nor that you would need to carry that thing with you when you travel or you move temporarily!
Setbacks there are none unless you talk in your sleep and you sleep among strangers maybe?

So as long as you have that sed also on a physical back-up stored safely there is nothing wrong with trying to memorize it.

Zero benefits. You cannot rely solely on your memory for something as sensitive as your seed phrase. There are many threads on the topic and it’s a general consensus among the bitcoin community that relying solely on one’s memory is a terrible way of storing your seed phrase.

If you are worried about the lifespan of paper storage, you can always opt for other methods like engraving your seeds in steel, and having multiple backups in different locations. I recommend you to visit the topic below and try this method:
Securing Your Seed Phrase with Washers (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5389446.0).

I would not try to memorize my recovery phrase. Certainly it is possible to do that. And I want to believe that there are lot of geniuses who do it.

A lot of things can go wrong. - Head trauma, Dementia, and others

I see no benefits in it what so ever. I consider it the worse way to store your recovery phrase.

Setbacks - I forget it. I fall asleep in a bitcoin hangout party and I say it without knowing while I am asleep or passed out. Humans are frail, I wouldn't trust it with my recovery phrase.

It is not advisable to memorize your seed phrase because there is a high probability that you will forget it. This is because seed phrase is not what you use often but only to recovery a wallet whose password has been forget or don't have the wallet app on their device or computer anymore.

People easily forget their password that they use to login to their accounts every day, talk more of memorizing your seed phrase. It is not good, human thinks a lot and will be faced with stress that might make the brain not remember much.

This is why when you are creating a new wallet you will be advised to write down your seed phrase on a piece of paper and put the words accurately before your wallet will be created. Paper or steel back up is safer.

That's not easy even if it's just 12 words I'm sure we can memorize those 12 words but not good for the long term I've been tested it to memorize my backup but after a week I can only remember 5 or 7 words maybe if the backup seed is just around 5 words we can memorize it.

However, since we are getting older I'm sure our memory become less effective when it comes to remembering something plus why need to memorize if you can just save your seed backup into an offline device and never connect it online or use a CD/DVD to backup your wallet that is way safer than memorizing 12 words.

I would never do this.
Even if you could memorize it, you should never do it for long term storage.
You can easily forget one password let alone 12 or 24 words, and you can have some health problems that affects your brain and memory resulting in lost coins.

What about brain injury or illness? I know that chances of that happening are not very high, but they still exist and shit happens so no way I would trust my memory when it comes to my life savings.

You can try, it’s definitely possible but I wouldn’t rely too much on it. Unless you have a photographic memory, you are bound to do a mistake and forget something.

Sometimes those who are really good with memorization also forget a few details here and there we are all humans after all.
No. I wouldn’t even.
Well no one can access your recovery phrase because there is no physical copy for one. The setback is if you forget it, you’re going to lose everything and no way to get it back.

Of course - it's possible especially if you do some techniques. One of the techniques I remember most in memorizing is - write as many of those 12 words as possible and read as many as possible. You have to repeat the same thing until you can remember it even if you are drunk. But are you also willing to bear the risk?

Another easy solution to be safe is - take security measures like most of the bitcoin whales do. If you know how they do it - then your bitcoins will probably be safe before you pass them on to your children, wife or family.

No - I'm a forgetful person. LOL

I probably could do but I don’t trust myself enough to destroy all copies that I have incase I forget one or two words. I have enough copies of my seed hidden in multiple locations not to worry about losing it. I don’t think it’s a good idea to only have your seed in your memory, it’s too risky.

You can safely memorize it unless you are storing a backup somewhere, otherwise it's very dangerous because once you forget it, it's too late and it's very hard to monitor how effeciently and reliably you are reminding it. Because one day you can remind it easily and the next day, you can totally forget it without warnings. If you write it and store it somewhere you might consider is the risk of physical theft nonetheless. If someone breaks into your home, they could potentially find and steal the paper where you've written your recovery seed. That's why it's crucial to find a safe location in order to secure your backup if you finally keep this option.

Memorizing one's wallet seed phrase is never the best way to storing it, as you never can tell, you may forget it when faced with stress and life challenges. Hence, the best way remains writing it on multiple pieces of paper just like you said you did, and storing it in multiple different locations in your house without writing certain keywords such as "My wallet Seed phrase" or either "My Electrum Seed phrase" or "Trust Wallet Seed Phrase", so as to make it hard for anybody to understand what it means if they happens to come across it, as these are the most common keyboards people always use as title of the piece of paper when writing a wallet seed phrase.

Hahaha no. My mind has already a million things to think about, I don’t need to put any more pressure by memorizing something so important and is basically the key to my life.
Benefits:

• Even if you were robbed, they are not going to have any copy of your seed phrase as it is all in your head.
• It’s very convenient and easier than pulling out a piece of paper when you need it. You also decrease the risk of exposing it to too much people.

Setbacks:

• Obviously you might forget. Just one word will be enough to throw you off of your balance and you might the forget the whole thing entirely.

But if you are very interested in memorizing, I would suggest you do the following:

• use a mnemonic or those silly little abbreviations that make you remember particular words. they are often catchy so it’s not as unforgettable.
• you need a back up still and store it somewhere safe and check it from time to time just to refresh your memory.

IIRC, there's someone that has suggested that before but it's not advisable and we may forget things too easily when we're going to memorize it. Even the sharpest minds surely won't do this if this is the only key to access your holdings. Just make a lot of back ups and don't make it too obvious that they're your recovery phrases or the seeds that are provided to you by electrum or any wallet that you're going to use. This is highly not advisable if you think that it's gonna be a good way of storing your phrases.

Even if you want to memorise your phrase, that will be an added advantage to you as you don't need to look for it all the time when you want to access the wallet, but don't use it because you memorise it in your head and wipe all the backup because that will be the biggest set-up you will ever do to yourself. 
 
If you see your house as not being safe for storing your phrase, then try and locate a secured location, maybe even encrypting an empty flash drive, and keep it in a safe place, maybe up to three locations, and even if someone finds it, they can't get access to what's inside.

That's why I said it has no drawbacks as long as you have a physical copy of that private key!
OP asked how secure is but only after mentioning he has a piece of paper with the seed from his wallet, I still don't see any disadvantages to it.

Besides, if we talk about brain injury, depending on how serious a memory loss is you might even forget where you hid your private key or that bitcoin is all together!

This is something I haven't been able to try to memorize the few times I have attempted to store my seed phrases in my memory, But it another good way to store your seed phrases because you are in advantage of moving about with it wherever you go without, But isn't a method for one to wholly rely on because we can easily forget it or miss it up some point even though we have people that has a good retentive memory that stores things, and they hardly forget.

It's still possible if you have a great memory so there's nothing wrong with memorizing. But for me personally even though it's good but I can't do that. First, my laziness is greater so I just try to write it down instead of memorizing it, another reason is that I do not have a good grasp of remembering something which is a problem that is difficult to avoid so I will just try to take the conventional method by just writing it down and storing it in a safe place.

But it is undeniable that memorization can be a good option because apart from storing it in a safe place in terms of writing, you also store it in your brain (memorization) which makes it even safer but something like this must also be accompanied by storage in writing because in the end memorizing Seeds can indeed be done but keeping memorization from forgetting is difficult so there must still be a helper, namely the writing of seeds that are stored and secured in your book.

I wouldn't try to memorize my seed phrase for anything even though it's possible to do this is because storing it in your memory may sometimes give you the self assurance not to make duplicates of it since you believe you can come up with it at any given time but at some point you may find it difficult to write it in order of the arrangement and since you are unable to keep the duplicates in a good place it becomes a problem for you to recover it. One of the benefits of memorizing your seed phrase is that it helps you to have access to your funds faster if there is a case of hack of accounts but the disadvantages is that in the case of a memory loss, the reverse becomes the case.

Too bad for me i dont remember where i saved it

How am I supposed to know this? It may be possible for me to memorize a whole text book, but that might not be the case to you. It's best that you find the most suitable ways to adapt to the system of being your own security.
Yes... I'll definitely memorize them. Benefits? Well, that's just about you being on the safer side. The big setback is life itself; if anything happens and you lay down lifeless, that's the end!
In that case, it's pointless to be self-reliant . You've got kids? Teach the eldest amongst them and, show 'em.

It’s possible, it’s doable but that doesn’t mean it should be done. Even you too can forget or have memory loss sometimes. It’s not what anyone wants or would like to happen to them, not even your worst enemy when they’ve got just so much in their wallet.

About a month ago, I forgot the password to my forum account and it was a nightmare for me since, I didn’t put any recovery procedure in place. This could have easily been a your wallet and it’s not what the risk! This isn’t some words of your choosing, neither does it have any personal association issues it was randomly chosen and just like that, lose one clue and your done for.

When you’ve got the hard copy somewhere safe, your good. If your concerned about your home and how secure it is, perhaps you could have it saved some place else, more like having a duplicate. So, if the things you fear becomes a reality at your home, you could still have an option to recovery some place else.

I think as am alternative back up it’s not bad because you can easily access it whenever you are not necessarily having to go back to your paper back up all the time. My advice has always been whenever you’re saving your seed phrase on paper make sure to add a passphrase to the seed phrase, this provides it with a second layer such that even if the seed phrase is been compromised the hacker can’t easily recover your wallet, because the wallet will recover another and empty wallet without the seed phrase. There are even people that send dust amounts to the wallet without pass phrase to trick the hacker into think it’s the right wallet.


As long as the wallet holds the coins meant for future purposes, it is better to bring in someone into the knowledge of it no matter the form of storage used.

You better hurry and make some backups now if you still have the wallet on any device that you have access to before you completely lose whatever you have in that wallet.
 
And if you don't have any means of restoring the wallet, you should consider what ever you have inside lost and start with a new wallet, and this time around, choose your place of storing your backup carefully and in safe areas that you can easily remember.

If you have two or three backups already in different locations, you can memorize it. But do not consider your memory as backup. So the seed phrase you memorize is not a backup, but maybe it can be helpful.

Although, the disadvantage I see in it is that I do not think someone can have just only one seed phrase. But if it is only one and not more than 12 words, I think if he has like two or three physical and offline backups, memorizing it is not a bad idea.

I think everyone can memorize their recovery phrase, the only problem that I have with that is from the fact that I believe that memory is a really unreliable thing to rely on when it comes to something like this, I might remember it for now but I don't really have that kind of use for it and then time goes by and I end up having to recall it and then I do but this time, I can't recall it in the right sequence which means that I might've just locked out myself on my own wallet, that's why there's a questioning of witness when it's all memories, because memories are unreliable evidence that something is done and that you might be putting a different kind of person behind bars because you've got an unreliable memory but I digress, better to be safe and have a written back up rather than just relying on your memories.

Well, it will be a good thing if you can actually memorise your seed phrase, but the thing is, the moment you forget it, it's over. I mean, it will be hard to remember it again, so it's better that when you memorise it, you will always remember it or recite it so that it will always be fresh in your mind. Yes, it is possible, and that is safer than storing it in a digital or physical form, such as notes or online notes, because it is prone to losing or someone could access it. I remember that I have read a post or topic in this forum about how he put his seed phrase on a steel plate. I mean, the material he used is somewhat durable, but the thing is, if someone sees that, then it's over, or if it's stolen or lost, then that person couldn't have any means of unlocking its wallet. So in short, the best method to keep your seed phrase safe is to bury it in your mind, so you are the only one who knows that and could have access to it.




 

Memorizing it as if it's going to be your entire back up? That's wrong in all forms. Just think of it that even the biggest corporations and with big assets, they are writing it elsewhere and have multiple back ups not just with their database, networks, securities and everything. We are not as big as them but we should practice backing up at all times especially if it's related to our assets which is an important thing to remember. We can remember, we can memorize but never settle for that and make your backups.

I would never try, and even if I did attempt to, I'd probably forget about it or make a mistake about what I remembered due to how complex it can be. Memorization in the first place is looking for patterns in something, and I don't think seed phrases have such a thing, nor would I ever want it to have a recognizable pattern in the first place.

And again, you shouldn't even try to memorize it! The fact that you need to memorize everything yet one small mistake can make your wallet disappear is already a con itself imo. As for benefits sure you don't need to store them anymore, but you run the risk of forgetting one character and again, ruining your chances of restoring your wallet. In the first place I don't think it's a "con" to store your wallet somewhere, there's tons of methods and ways you can make it secure, just requires effort.

Well you could leave a few last words and tell someone you’d actually like and respect to trust with your secret. It could be in a form of will and testament. Or just hand them a paper indicating where the back up copy is.
Please make sure that your kid is not a child. If your kid is still a child, they might not understand just how severely serious this is and might tell everyone or anyone about your seed phrase.

You are wrong, that is one of the worst ways to store your seed phrase and a fast way to lose your coins or lock yourself out of your funds. There is no way you can remember the words for a longer period of time, you're surely going to forget some words or wrongly arrange them, you may also suffer injury or disease that could affect your memory.

The best method is to have a physical backup and store it in a very safe location, adding extra layers of security is also recommended. If you want to commit your seed phrase to memory, it should be after you have done all this, you can now count what you have memorized as an additional backup.

You are definitely at risk if you write down your Electrum Wallet passphrase on paper but the place is not very secure or secure. But first of all choose a very safe place otherwise you will be in a lot of risk. Although it is possible to memorize the wallet phrase, there is also a risk because if you forget it a few days after memorizing it, you can lose everything. I write down my wallet seed phrase in a notebook but I keep it in a very safe place where no one but me can access it. You can do as I did by keeping it in a place where no one else can access your wallet password.

I definitely can. But it's one thing to memorize it and quite another to keep it in your memory for a very long time. Especially when you don't recite it or make use of it every once in a while, it's just a matter of time before you will forget it. So for your security it's best to just write it down in several copies and keep it in different locations.

The benefit from memorizing your recovery phrase is that nobody can steal if from you. The setback is that it is risky. It's very possible you'll forget it not only because memories fade over time but also because you could develop health conditions that weaken your memory perhaps because of accident or old age. Another setback is that your coins would die with you. Your family can't inherit it from you.

A lot of persons , just like a majority of users here have said, will say things like the human head cannot be trusted and things like an accident or something may lead to some sort of neural disorder that could lead to the person losing memory which is true, however other practical factors are also present such as retentive ability. Cramming or memorizing your seed phrase is something I think is quite unsafe based on the fact that forgetting such random words is something very prone to happen.

Let's also not forget the fact that with such number of words can be easily misplaced if memorized by an individual. Like I often say, there is no 100% guarantee for any method of storing ones seed phrase or private keys. The fact is everyone is just looking for a safer option that would also be easy to access.

I'm too old for it and probably won't be taking that risk to memorize without having a back up.

@OP, how not secure is the place where you're putting that keys of your wallet? Don't do that, put it somewhere safe that no one is going to suspect that it's something valuable to you.

If the place you're keeping it is exposed, you're going to regret that later on. Please put it somewhere safer in your house and I know that each house has that kind of place.

I think it's too risky to even memorize the seed phrase because if you forget any of the words in the seed phrase of that wallet you won't have access to that wallet.
It would be advisable to write down the wallet seed phrase instead of memorizing it and store it in a safe place. Remember if the face of the wallet is not secure with us then the funds in our wallet are not secure either. I have seen many members on this forum who regret losing their wallet seed phrase. I don't want to suffer from regrets like them and I don't want other members to have the same problem.

I never want to try it.Because my memory is so weak I can't remember anything for very long so I can sometimes forget it if I try to memorize my seed phrase. I have stored it safely away from taking risks.

Setbacks are more than benefits and you should never use your brain to back up your wallet seed phrase. Your brain can have sudden unexpected damage and memory can be lost forever, consequently your fund will be lost forever too.

How to back up a seed phrase (https://blog.lopp.net/how-to-back-up-a-seed-phrase/)

Even the owner can lose access to his bitcoins if memory was lost by whatsoever reasons.

Other forum members gave already given you the answer that you’re looking for I.e the setbacks that is expected to occur when you memorize your secret phrase - but still I couldn’t just pass the thread without dropping this quote I read in a thread I created recently.


The quote above says all there is to know about why writing down your secret phrase is far better than just memorizing it.

I'm not sure if I can memorize my seed phrase, but let's try.

So my seed phrase is: fuck, pussy, gay, homophobic, vagina, penis, trans, asshole, dickhead, bitch, shit, slut. Wow I remembered all of my words, so definitely it's possible to memorize seed phrase.

If he live in Gaza, there are no safe place.

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Depends on living conditions, people have to make choices of their wallet backups but they need to have different methods for backups. Use multiple backup methods is very good practice that if one is broken, they will have at least one or two more backups in one or two more methods to use.

Use memory to backup wallet seed is good if living conditions are very tough like in Gaza but it should never be the only choice for backups. This method is helpful and practical if you have only one or two wallets but if you have different wallets, it will be more challenging to remember many wallet seed words.

Depends on conditions of living, memory backup method can be the main or alternative backup methods and if it is an alternative backup method, to support other methods, it's good.

Sad but truth and I pray for the peace of everyone in Gaza.

But I guess that since OP is able to post in here and for sure that he's in a safer place. So, that's possible that he's got a safe place in his house or apartment or wherever he is living right now.

He better find one for his own safekeeping.

I will never try to remember 24 words that can contain all my wealth

I know that the shortest pencil is sharper than the biggest brain and as human beings we tend to forget things, especially if it is something like seed phrase that is supposed to be kept for many years. The pressures of everyday activities and challenges can make us to forget some minor details and in the case of seed phrase, if a person forgets one word of it, then it has ruined the rest that you remember, so it is better to have more than one copy and hide them in different safe locations where you can easily access them. Although it is not a bad idea to memorize seed phrase, but it will be a very bad idea to rely solely on memorizing it without having physical copies Incase you forget, so a person that wants to memorize from where they wrote the phrase periodically is a good idea too.

It is possible, but you are taking a massive risk by not writing your seed words, since even if you could remember most of your seed phrase, as long as you forgot a few of those words it could become incredibly challenging to ever recover your coins.

However there are some benefits to try to do this, so if for example you were moving through a place which you thought could put your coins at risk of being stolen, you could remember your seed words and not carry anything with you at the time, and once you were out of it you could write them out, still the risk of forgetting your seed words still exist, so this is something that you do only if the circumstances really forced you to do so.

It's possible to memorize a 12-letter seed phrase, but memorizing a 24-letter seed phrase might be very difficult, since the letters are random and you need to memorize them in the right order. However, if you succeed in memorizing it, of course the advantage is that you no longer need to copy-paste or look at the paper where you wrote down the seed phrase - because you can write it directly from your head. But since the human brain is fallible, there is a possibility that the seed phrases you memorized are not in the correct sequence or you forgot some of them, that is the problem.

Is very possible to memorize it because there are those who there brain is strong enough to memorize as many words as they want and there are also people too who doesn't have a good memory in terms of remembering things so it depends on the person if you feel there is need to memorize your key phrase but however no matter how retentive your brain is don't forget to always back up your key phrases because you will lose access immediately you forget it.

I concur to this memorizing such important life investment security like I do called it is very dangerous the best one can do is to right it down and keep in place where it will not be misplaced or been take by another person.
Then one also need to know the least five words or figure from the starting and also the five ending figure or work as that can help so easily in remembering the key or pass phrase.

Ah yeah, you are right, I completely missed that part of your post. I blame the sun as I spent almost the whole day yesterday on the beach and came home exhausted and with the massive headache. :D


True, and that's why its important to have contingency plan set in case of death/injury/illness (which I have), but somehow I think many don't.

Writing your recovery phrase on a piece of paper is not really the best option, and trying to memorize your recovery phrase is even worse. If you are storing your recovery phrase, it’s better if you carve it on a small piece of iron steel, then you can store it in a different location. Iron steel is always difficult to damage, so if there is a fire accident or if water touches it, then it’s not going to get damaged compared to if it’s written on paper. If you decide to memorize your recovery phrase, if anything happens and you forget some of it, then that means you already lost access to the wallet. We can’t be too confident about our brains, if you memorize your recovery phrase, you might remember everything at the early stage, but with time you might start forgetting some, so it’s totally wrong to memorize your recovery phrase as your only backup plan.

When it comes to storing seed phrases, I'm pretty sure everyone will have more than 1 backup copy stored in different secure places just in case one gets lost and we still have other options to restore your assets. So memorizing the seed phrase is too risky without a backup. Have you ever thought of a situation where for some reason you can't remember the exact seed phrase and what you do next after that? If you're confident in your memory, you can memorize the phrase, but you must have a backup plan.

You need to remember that every method will have advantages and disadvantages, no method is 100% absolutely safe. So always have a backup plan when you use any method to store seed phrases.

Just because a piece of paper doesn't take up much space it's not safe? For me there is still a safe place unless you know it yourself, we know where the safe place is to keep a piece of seed phrase notes.

I don't memorize seed phrases in my brain. It's human nature to forget especially for a long time unless you keep the notes by memorizing them in your brain then it's not a problem in my opinion.

It's just that it's enough, with a paper note because for me it feels safe.

If sang repeatedly you can memorize it and it will remain the brain for as long as we want it. But i wouldn't let you to only rely to store your seed phrase based on the one you have memorized.

I agree with you, these pattern doesn't last for long because saving your seed phrase is not something you do everyday. Saving it in a hardware wallet is one of the  best way and writing them down on peace of paper is one good way or in a document and keeping it in a disc.

Writing seed phrases on a piece of paper covered with plastic is considered safe in my experience. The placement of the place to store the seed phrase written on paper must be adjusted.

No. I can't memorize it. For me it is not effective for remembering a number of words. If I can memorize it, I'm sure it will slowly be forgotten as I get older.
Even safer, use special materials to write seed phrases that are tested to be fire and water resistant.

I allow the use of memorization as a way to save the recovery phrase only as an additional method (several backup copies). Storage on hard media (or, in extreme cases, electronic, for example, flash drives and HDD) is mandatory. You can't rely on (human) memory alone.

If you memorize a recovery phrase, it is better to do it not by words, but in the form of a rhyme or song in which the seed phrases will be meaningfully embedded. This allows for better (faster) and safer memorization.

Advantages of this storage method:
- no one can get into your head and gain access to the recovery phrase (but this method is not secure to the $5 wrench method).

Flaws:
- if the storage medium (brain) is damaged due to injury or illness, restoring the seed-phrase becomes impossible.

Therefore, using this method as the main one when storing the recovery phrase looks very unreliable.

Writing it on a piece of paper might not be the best option but it depends on where the paper is saved  and if am to pick both I'll prefer writing it down on a piece of paper and storing the paper in a safe that's passworded, as we all know, most safes are both fire and water proofed and can't be easily penetrated without the owner giving you a password to it. Well, their are people with retentive memory that could easily memorise and remember their recovery phrase whenever but not everyone is born that way. Also one could remember it but find it difficult to arrange them orderly and one thing about the recovery phrase is that if you miss a word or forget how to arrange them orderly then you can't be granted acess to your wallet, so memorising it is a no no cause it has lots of disadvantages, I'll rather write it on piece of paper and save in a mini vault that's heavily protected or save it in my mail and secure the mail with a 2FA (2 factor authenticator) which i consider one of the best way of securing the recovery phrase.

I can't and I don't recommend it to anyone. There surely are people who can do that but that's not the ideal way of securing it. Keeping it secure in your head might not be good idea as there are several ways it can go wrong. If it's a small amount, just keep a diary with details about it and the phrase and keep it secure with you. If it's a long term large hold, It's better to keep it written and at least at two different locations with the person closet to you aware of what it is and how to use it in case you are no more.
Putting a copy in the bank locker too can be a good idea. Some people even prefer halving the phrase and putting them in different places.

Many people have good memory so remembering 12 words or 24 words is not a big problem for them, but you also need to take into account unexpected incidents such as accidents that cause temporary memory loss. How will you or your loved ones access your bitcoins?

This method has advantages because we can access our bitcoins whenever we want and the risk of information disclosure is almost non-existent. But that is not a method that brings absolute safety and not everyone has good memory to remember.


Depending on the geographical area, security situation, weather...we will have appropriate seed storage methods. If you live in a war zone or an area prone to floods and earthquakes, storing it indoors or burying it in the backyard would be a bad idea. We need to be flexible in choosing methods that suit our conditions, instead of being rigid and imitating the ways of others.

Of course this is not an easy thing to do and if we advise other people to memorize it then they will say of course there are other more effective options to keep it well and of course we save it in a place that we can remember and it is not easy for others to know. other people.
Yes, it would be better for us to store it in two different parts and make it easier for us to remember, of course this is better than memorizing it.

Definitely not and i wont really be tending to do it because high chance that you would really be able to forget one of those words or phrase then say goodbye into your funds. Lets say that you would be able to memorize but there's really indeed a time that you cant really be able to completely tell all of those words and if that happens? then say goodbye into those coins. If you are comfortable on having this kind of approach then you should do it but it would really be best that you would be having that kind of back up because it will really be at least putting you uup on such safe condition just in case you have forgot
something and this is much more safer rather than on memorizing those things alone but in overall it would be best that you would be neither buying up a hardware wallet or even just simply storing it on a piece of paper on storing up those seed phrases.

The only thing on here is that you should really be that keeping things to be that safe in other peoples awareness because things turns out to be shit condition if you arent that
mindful about the security of your coins. So it would really be always best that you should always make a back up after a back up. Just make it sure that it is
away on others awareness then you are already that safe.

You can memorize your seed phrase, but we are always humans, and it is inevitable that we will forget it one day or another. There is no person who does not experience forgetfulness. So it's safer to write it down on a piece of paper, save it on a USB for the time being, or if you have a hardware wallet to buy, it's better.

Then, for an ordinary person, it is difficult to memorize the seed phrase. For my experience, I have tried that. Yes,  I will remember him in a few days, but after a few weeks or months, you will really forget the other words.

I don't think there's actually a 100% foolproof method for securing your seed phrase. I'm sure that if we were to list all securing scenarios, the majority, if not all, would have a weakness, mostly in terms of human error. This is why I believe a combination of methods should be used. Writing it on a piece of paper is the most basic one; however, it can easily be lost. I used to save them in.txt files on my computer when I was younger; if I'm not mistaken, I lost every single one of them.

I personally wouldn't be able to memorize it; I have a short memory, and of course, it goes without saying that memorizing it won't be your only "backup.".

I have 17 recovery phrases in use at the moment. I can't memorize them.

There is nothing bad in memorizing it, but i can bet you there could come to a point in time whereby you may not be able to remember them all or have them in their order of listings, the only recommendation i can offer from this is to source for an alternative means of storing those keys, safe keep them, by so doing, you now have two different locations where your seed phrase can eb found in case if one is challenged from having access through. 

Hmm yeah, mate it is possible to memorize recovery phrases, but to be honest, it is not the best thing to do. Because the memory of a normal human being is not strong enough to remember something for a long time, if, with the passage of time, you unfortunately forget the recovery phrase, your funds may be locked. Apart from this, if you miss up on the correct arrangement, then as a result, you can lose your fund or be locked.  So I think the best thing would be to write down the recovery phrase and keep it in a safe place so that no one can access it easily. So the benefit of this is that even if you forget, you can easily login to your wallet from the written form.

Memorizing the phrase?
I'm so sorry, but I'm very bad at memorizing something details like that phrase. For me personally, that is clearly impossible. So, that's why I do it by backing up in several ways. So there's not just 1 backup. This will prevent complete data loss. because after all, whether the digital or offline world requires data input like that, it certainly has weaknesses and security systems are not always guaranteed to be 100% safe, right? So what we can do is make several backups just in case one of them is lost.

Why did you try it before coming to the public. At least you would have tried it and see how it works first so that when you create the thread it take another direction of thinking and not like this again. Op I don't know what others have said but as for me it is possible to memorize your seed phrase. But that is not also saved so the best way to secure your seed phrase is to write it in different places.

I have not even try it one day and not even planning to try it in any day. Instead I love to type it and print it or if it was possible I would have used washer plate to secure them.

Memorizing the seed phrase is a great deal of work that majority of the people will not be able to do. Secondly, after you must have finished Memorizing it, you still need to practice to get used to the seed phrase for the purpose of retention. Again, a vast majority of people who are able to memorize the seed phrase will end up not able to recall what they memorized earlier.

All these could be avoided just by writing the seed phrase in 3 or more different pieces of papers and storing them in safe places where you can always recover them easily. For instance, I can keep one in a safe box I must crafted on my roof, another buried in an earthen environment within my compound, if I own the house and others could be within the bedroom and so on. This would make it easier for me to retrieve any of them, when the need arises than to memorize and forget the seed phrase.

I would advise against that as new tech is already emerging that can read brain waves and with all this AI tech coming out I could see there being avenues to even read your mind and take important private information away. Sounds so scary re-reading that but honestly you can never be too careful these days! I would highly advise against memorizing your seed phrase, but thats just me, maybe others have other input here...

If you have a good memory you can memorize it. I think it's stupid to memorize the wallet passphrase just as an alternate backup, because you are fallible and anyone can forget it at any time. If you can use any method to store a seed phrase or private key, you may choose any method to store it, but the biggest responsibility is how secure your seed phrase will be depending on the method you use. But make it a habit to always check if your accesses are secure on a regular basis.

Yes, you could try to memorize the 12 words, but what's the point? You could still forget several words. I wouldn't bother with memorizing my seed phrases.
Why are so many Bitcoiners obsessed with their seed phrases and private keys? Is anyone trying to hack you? Having decent knowledge about how to protect yourself from getting hacked and having a decent anti-virus should be more than enough for protecting your BTC wallet.
What do you mean by "my place isn't secured"? Do you live in a town with high levels of criminal activity? Do you lock your door every day?

Trying to memorize your seed phrases is a good one but the truth is that it could make you keep careless with the one written down which can be lost and exposed to public seights. That's due to over confidence that you have it off hand and once you've missed a word of it, then you're gone with it. So even if you can memorize it, do well take it stored somewhere either online or offline on a safe place.

Our seed phrase isn't just any other kind of phrase which is why it shouldn't be written just on any paper and shouldn't be placed in any place not well secured. Think again, you might actually have somewhere really safe to have it kept.

On memorize our seed phrase if it's possible. Yes it is, and  it's has so much to do with the individual's level intelligence and the length of the phrase and other determinant like how busy a person you are, as in how occupied you get with many other things at hand needing your attention. For someone like me with so much to meet up in my head I'll prefer writing it down and have it kept in a safe position as my human faculty can fail me due to stress and other factors.

As a bitcoin investor, that's all we need to keep our bitcoins safe, everything is very simple, let's not make things complicated. Storing seed phrases is like we trying to keep a secret or protect valuable assets but I don't see anyone asking others how to safely store gold or diamonds. You're right, it's confusing many people are obsessed with the seed phrase, many people even spend all day trying to figure out how to make it absolutely secure but the interesting thing is, their wallets don't have many bitcoins in there.

As a bitcoin investor, we should look to accumulate as many bitcoins as possible instead of just spending too much time thinking about where to store the seed phrase when we don't have too many bitcoins. Agree that safety is also an important task, but don't get too obsessed with it and ignore other factors.

Good luck trying to find that small iron plate when your house burns to the ground.:P
Btw, I am not saying that its not a generally good thing to have, but if you only have one you are still vulnerable.



What an actual fuck, you have 17 wallets in use right now?

Even if I have a good memory to retain things, I don't see it as a good idea to want to memorize all the seed phrase in my head because no matter how good I am what if I forget one of the combinations of the seed phrase.  Then their is no way i can have access to the assets. So it better not to even think of considering it. And no matter how good anyone is with saving things in their head they won't consider memorizing it. Because their is a lot of challenges that might even make you forget things.

Their other offline alternatives to consider than trying to keep it in your head. And I won't either advise anyone to save their seed phrase online. Anything online is also at risk online and make sure its a save place were no one will have access to it except you.  And when they are properly safe always do to check them time to time to reconfirm the safety of your assets. And some people are so careless that they don't even care they just write and dump some were and the moment they lose money they will know the value of always keeping their assets safe. Sometimes is good they learn the had way.

For real? That is quite a lot, why do you have so many wallets, it is problematic to keep too many seed phrases safe, only if you keep all of them in the same location, which isn't recommended in my honest opinion. I don't know the exact reason why you do this, but take note that it does not add to your security if you use too many wallets, it can only give you a false sense of security and more work, because you need safe and offline devices to store some of these wallet files.

In the short term, maybe you can memorize it, but it is very impossible to remember it in the long term. One of the human weaknesses is the nature of forgetfulness and it is always a part of every human being, there are unexpected factors that make you forget the seed phrases that you have memorized, such as life burdens that are too heavy, disharmonious family conditions and busy schedules at work. which makes you always have to focus on the tasks that must be completed at work.

Ideally, you can write the seed phrase on a piece of paper that is not easily damaged or worn out or engrave it on a steel plate and then store it in a safe place. Memorizing the seed phrase is not recommended, there are many reasons why you could lose the seed phrase and you will be threatened with not being able to retrieve the assets you saved if suddenly you cannot remember the seed phrase. Never take any risks with your asset ownership, always prioritize asset safety by storing the seed phrase in a safe place, then write it in a place that is not flammable and does not easily get wet if it comes into contact with water.

If you memorize your seed phrase, it’s not a bad idea, but never even try to rely on the seed phrase that you stored in your brain alone. Make sure you properly backup your seed phrase in other places and protect it. Seriously, I can’t really trust my brain like that, so my seed phrase is stored in so many places, which I will recommend others do as well.
 
I will never recommend anyone store their seed phrase online, if you don’t, it’s just like your seed phrase is already in public because anywhere you store it can easily be compromised and people will be able to see it. The best place to store seed phrase is offline, and it should be written on material that can’t be easily damaged.

You can do it if you can but what I see is that you only add a burden into your life and memory as it was not the only thing you are thinking with. Why make yourself too easy like putting it in a safe place, somewhere where you believe nothing could see it aside from you? I could not dare to do that nor imagine that for the sake of giving safety to my wallet, I need to memorize them. Let us assume that you have made it now but are not sure after a few days if it is still in your mind or have forgotten some of it unless that is the only thing you do all day and every day.

I never see any benefits of doing it really as that even makes things worse and possible that you will never access your wallet anymore.

The benefit is that you won't need to look for your seed phrase when you want to add your wallet in a wallet software when you know your seed phrase isn't easily accessible, and I don't see any possible setbacks for this as long as you are also saving the seed phrase somewhere safe because as said by other members, you can't trust your mind all the time. After all, humans tend to forget stuff at times.

So if my seed phrase is easy and I know I can memorize it somehow, I wouldn't mind doing that if it isn't going to take a lot of my time unnecessarily because it's not something essential since you are usually supposed to keep your seed phrase written and keep it somewhere very safe but it's just an additional thing that you can do.

I definitely wouldn't do that. I don't have issues with my memory, but still, you may get 1 word wrong and lose everything.

Any reasonably intelligent person should be able to memorize 12 words in order, even if it takes a lot of repetition.  Even 24-word seed phrases can be memorized, especially if you use some kind of artificial memory technique (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_of_memory).

The problem is, you never know what factors are going to affect your memory as time goes on, and personally I think it's a very bad idea to keep a seed phrase (or even worse, multiple ones) in your head and not written down anywhere.  Yeah, you might be a brainiac and have total confidence in your cognitive skills....but you just never know what could happen to your funds if, say, you should suffer a traumatic brain injury or the like.  If you want to test it with a small amount of funds, I think that's a neat idea but in general there's way too much risk involved.

Honestly, I have been thinking about this since a long time and we already had a long discussion about this on our local board. Memorizing your recovery phrase of 12 words, that looks very easy to me in the beginning, we could memorize some music lyrics of 3 minutes and hundreds of words, why can’t we memorize just 12 words? Right, I mean it will look easy for us all, however, the truth is different when you learn about it.
First of all, the thing that will make forget the order or a word from that list is lack of repetition, since accessing to your wallet is with a password only after the first time importing or creating that wallet. Second, the words are in a random order and doesn’t have any patterns to remember neither have a meaning.

Conclusion, it is better to avoid that, risking to lose your funds forever knowing that it is easier to lose your wallet in the way of memorizing it than any other method.

No you won't lose everything if you only forget one single word actually because BIP39 wordlist "only" contains 2048 different words. So if only one word is missing it's not very difficult to try 2048 combinations. It's harder when at least 2 words are missing. Because it already represents 2048x2048 = 4 194 304 differents combinations, that's already beyond average human capacities. And you will need a script or a software to crack it.

Memorizing is still possible but after all it is only as an enhancement option so that we strengthen our ownership because at least by memorizing we can realize the importance of security and even if the writing we have fades or experiences some problems, we still remember the seeds we memorized to open in the end but on the other hand once again we also cannot rule out the fact that writing is a conventional but very important situation that cannot be completely forgotten.

Because in the end with us writing and keeping it in an ama place it indirectly makes us feel more comfortable with the assets we have in our wallet and indeed memorization can be used as our back up to be even more confident because as I said above that when there are some incidents that occur that are not expected that make us lose the seeds that we write down then we still have a backup in memory because we have memorized it well which of course this becomes an even more advantage only that memorization is flexible because it can be done and it can also not.

Of course, you can remember a phrase of twelve or twenty-four words. But how many times has our memory played cruel tricks on us? Everyone has had cases when, in a conversation, you forget a word, even the simplest word, and suddenly you can’t remember it. I think everyone has experienced this. And this is just a case of failure that is not dangerous either to health or to anything important. But what if you get injured or strange things gradually happen to your health? (There is a user on the forum who described his condition very well.) And precisely at the moment when the phrase is necessary, our brain fails. Memory training will not help here; just accept that this can happen, so you should always have a written copy, which will be a good insurance policy for you.

In order not to forget, you should regularly check the accuracy of the seed you have memorized. So the question is, what is the point of saving such a seed if you use it often just to make sure that it is remembered?
What if after some time you want to change your wallet and address for any reason? All the effort of memorizing the previous seed is no longer important and it is necessary to do everything from the beginning. Probably one of the best solutions when it comes to storing backup seed.

Yeah, I agree with you!
Memorizing 12 words and not forgetting them later is a difficult task, but it is even more tricky if you no longer need that wallet, creating more wallet and not mixing both of the those 24 phrases.
It's worth noting those words on some paper and storing them somewhere safely. If you don't need that wallet anymore, for whatever reason, you can burn that paper.

Absolutely right, and I only answered the question of the possibility of memorization. But if you ask me personally, I won’t even try, since there are better saving options and you don’t need to reinvent the wheel when you’ve been working well for a long time. "Best is the enemy of good." :)

For several years, among other things, I did the activation of some software, it was easier for me to remember the product key, but after some time of "not using" I forgot it. Maybe only my brain didn't stay at the highest level  :D
Certainly thinking about this way is quite ambitious, many unforeseen circumstances can happen. Except in Hollywood production of course  ;)

For me this would only make sense for a specific case of danger and for a specific period of time. Like you have to flee your country and maybe cross borders where you don't want them to find anything that could smell like bitcoin, like a HW or a paper with the seeds written on it. As a method of 'storing' the seeds for an indefinite period of time instead of having them hidden somewhere, there is too much danger of forgetting them, no matter how much memory you have.

You jot down a good case study and I agree that when you move to a nation that is not friendly with Bitcoin and cryptocurrency, you must be more careful. Like you said, trying to remember your Bitcoin or cryptocurrency wallet seed phrase is one of options.

I wonder two more things.

• In such countries, do we actually need to carry our bitcoin, cryptocurrencies in? It is risky and it might be better to have local cash for using or bring your credit cards around.
• Even that nation has rumor is unfriendly but Bitcoin, cryptocurrency are not illegal there, you can bring your wallets together for using, but it should only be your hot wallet. A hot wallet with small part of your capital in either hardware wallet, in your laptop, phone or in your brain. Don't take high risk to bring your fortune around.

Am going to speak freely and say that some of us stopped at memorizing the names of the them, nine planets, before we knew it and while some have exhibited great prowess in memorizing great speeches and essays, it is very possible to memorize your sees phrases if you think that's the best way to keep your wallet safe and prosperous.

One of the reasons why it is recommended to keep it or etch it or write it sometimes is safer, is due to the ability of some investors and traders to own multiple wallets, both online and offline wallets for their personal benefits, otherwise, it is very possible to memorize your recovery phrases and be safer than most.

It looks very difficult if you think about it superficially, how to remember a recovery phrase with 12/24 words, But it is still possible to remember the phrase quite well.

You can use the Mnemonic method such as the Chunking technique by grouping phrase words into parts, so it will be easy to remember.
And also uses the Loci Method to mark each word with an image so that each word will have its own visual as a marker.

I once did a memory trick like this when playing Rubik's with my eyes closed.
All steps are memorized, and each number symbol will indicate every move to be performed.

Using Chungkin's memory trick and developed by visualizing each group of words with a familiar image or place using the Loci method

Examples of 12-word recovery phrases
"1.Witch 2.Collapse 3.Practice 4.Feed 5.Shame 6.Open 7.Despair 8.Creek 9.Road 10.Again 11.Ice 12.least"

I group them into 3 Parts
Part 1. "witch collapse practice feed"
Part 2. "Shame Open Despair Creek"
Part 3. "Road Again Ice least"

Each word has an image or place, and each section will be converted into a sentence that is quite easy to hear.
So there will be a sentence that is generated from each part that shows the true meaning of the initial phrase of the restoration.
https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/06/17/cxOJN.jpeg

It is quite difficult, and this will depend on how strong your memory is to remember in the long run.
Because I myself use this trick to play rubik with my eyes closed for a period of about 5–10 minutes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Method_of_loci
https://www.mindtools.com/a8u1mqw/chunking

I guess you can memorize your recovery phrase since it only consist of 12 - 24 words. If you are feeling threatened with your environment not being safe, I think you should try to memorize it and engrave it to your mind. One downside here is when you forgot or jumbled with words in your mind, it will be a disaster. if I am in your situation, I would still make a back up and store it to somewhere unexpected, on somewhere in your place that no one knows about crypto.

Yes, I can do that, but I won't.

You always have to decide whether something is worth the time, the risk, the money invested.
You could technically get double doors to your apartment and lock each of them with 3 independent locks, but is it worth the time and money? Probably not.

It's the same with remembering a pass phrase. You can keep it engraved on a metal plate and it will never be destroyed and very hard to lose, especially if you put it somewhere really safe like under the floor board, or in a security safe.

Yes, everyone could memorize but not all would really be that good when it comes on remembering on which there would really be those individual that after they had put up into their minds but several hours or even on days they would really be able to forget. Impossible? No its not. This is why if you cant be able to trust up your memory specially if its a wallet that would be hold up for long term then it would be better that you should really be sticking into those good alternative methods on which same as you had mentioned on here that metal plate is something that more considerable but of course you would really be still needing up to consider on taking it away into other peoples awareness which it would really be just that a normal thing to be done.

If you are really that confident with your memory then go ahead but if its not then it would really be better not to do it because it will really be just giving out that very high chance
that you would really be able to forget those phrases on which we know on whats the risks on losing on here on which it is something that has value or simply money.  :)

Memorizing your seed phrase is absolutely an uncalculated risk.Seed phrase are to be written on several pieces of paper or encrypted on a steel and kept in a safe place.What do you think should be the essence why crypto wallets generate seed phrase,the reason is seed phrase that is also known as recovery phrase are mixed words it could be 12 or 24, they are used to recover wallet in case a user lose hold of his/her digital asset and crypto wallet.The best way to store your seed phrase is by keeping it safe offline(on a paper)and not online.Memorizing your seed phrase is nothing but stressing the brain that's meant to store other vital informations.

Investing brings with it many responsibilities. One of these responsibilities is to protect and not lose recovery phrases. There are many methods for saving phrases, some are memorized, but I think this is risky because there is a possibility of forgetting. Some people keep their rescue statements in a safer place.

It is necessary to be careful about security because it is as important as the appreciation of the investment. If you decide to memorize, you should remember this; After a while, things that are not repeated can disappear from our memory.

Indeed, it would be better if we wrote it down and kept it in a safe place, because by memorizing it we will not necessarily be able to remember it well and it could be that after memorizing it and rarely opening it, it is very likely that we will not be able to remember it well. I think it would be better if we wrote it down. and save it in the right way that we can easily remember and also have to tell people we really trust and it's better if we save it in several parts so that we can remember well where we keep the wallet key, because if we don't remember where we save it then the assets What we have collected will be lost along with the wallet key that we have saved.

Yeah, and even if we can memorized it, sooner or later it will fail us as our brain might go hiccup and forget that one word and then it screw everything up for us. That's why this is not recommended, although I have nothing against those who try to practice it, but there is no fail-safe here.

So just write it down your mnemonic phrase and then hide or or protect it at all cost. And try to spread it, could be in your house, or even in a safety deposit box in a bank. And probably majority will agree to me that this is a very bad idea specially if you don't have a back up and just trying to put everything in your mind.

Indeed, memorizing the initial sentence is not recommended in this case, this is carelessness for the person. Thinking about how to keep assets safe, there are many ways that people think about how to protect them, some write them down and then store them in a safe, there are also those who buy steel plates online and then string together some of the letters. into a sentence and then put it in a safe place to keep it. there are also who put it in email, meaning he created a new email without being contaminated with anything and then he linked it to 2fa. Yes, this depends on how the person uses it to protect their assets.

In my opinion, memorizing the seed phrase is not a bad idea because it has advantages such as we will never have to worry about others stealing it or being able to use it at any time. But we need to think about its downside: if our memory fails and it is the only backup, we will completely lose access to our bitcoins. It can be seen that this method has more disadvantages than advantages it brings, so it is really not recommended.

In general, each method will have advantages and disadvantages, so it wouldn't be bad if we combined 1 or 2 methods to achieve maximum effectiveness.

OP, why don't you try combining phrase memorization with one of the methods people have mentioned?

Nothing is impossible, mate. If you really have a sharp brain, and if the recovery phrase is less in number, then yes, you can easily memorize it. But yes, for safety reasons, it’s better to write it down somewhere safe also. This is the human brain, and it is prone to diseases. Moreover, what we should avoid is storing it digitally. Yes, memorizing the recovery phrase has some advantages; you need not have to carry the hard copy always, but for certain people it’s not possible. Hence, memorizing it varies from person to person.

In the modern era, have many secure place for saving you recover phrase why need to memorize in our mind? Its stupid way for us when try memorize with seed phrase although its possible behind some seed phrase only 12 word but if any seed phrase reach above 24 word I believe its hard to memorize.
I scare when memorizing seed phrase and save it only in our mind get difficulty if bad accident happen to us how to talk to our family about seed phrase in our brain.

Better save seed phrase on notepad or some thing more secure place when unpredictable thing happen to us we can talking to our family with bitcoin assets, too risk only us memorizing seed phrase with potential who will recovery our wallet later if get bad accident to us actually with market condition on the higher price but our self get bad accident.

People can have a strong memory but not forever, someone can forget one wrong word and it will be fatal and your wallet will never be opened, especially this drafting problem will be difficult even though nothing is impossible, what if we forget our memory and what if we are old who is likely to forget quickly.

The best reason to take the safer path, yes why don't we just write it down and reserve other security just in case it is not lost or deleted or forgotten, because the seed phrase is as valuable as the assets we have in the wallet, so don't underestimate this because we can remember it today, there needs to be further action to anticipate.

I can't even imagine myself memorizing my wallet seed phrase because I feel its not the right thing to do. For how long would I have keep that shit on my head. It is not really meant to be on our head but in a safe place for as long as possible. Anything can happen to us if we thinks we are good at memorizing words. There is nothing bad for us to keep such in our head but it is not meant to be there. Maybe we can keep it somewhere and likewise memorize it so that it can be in two places. Whatever way we intend to keep our seed phrase, it is better we keep it in a safe place so that we don't have to find it.

Even if am very good at memorizing stuff, I wouldn't try that with my seed phrases anyday. I rather save them with other multiple means that is after which I've written them on a hidden file.
However, it could have been more possible to memorize it if you were required to provide them when ever you log in to your account but in this case you only need them during re-registeration process which doesn't happen all the time sometimes not even in a year Interval.

Yeah, it's just going to be an option at the end of the day because it's fine to memorize but it doesn't mean that we have to save the seeds just by memorizing because that's definitely a bad situation because the risk is greater than if we save the seeds in writing.

If you really want to memorize the seeds that we have, it is not a mistake but of course the most important thing in this case is that we must still write down the seeds that we have as a form or conventional way to always be protected from forgetfulness of memorization.

We don't know what will happen when we only memorize the seeds without writing them down considering the vulnerability of forgetfulness is clearly very possible especially since we will also continue to grow older from year to year so that indeed memorizing alone without writing down any seeds is clearly very risky.

Even myself wont really be that comfortable or even really that confident on just simply memorizing my phrase considering that it is really that having inside some coins which does have value.
On the moment that you would really be able to forget even a single word or two then say goodbye into your coins and this is something that we dont really like to happen.
This is why it would really be that recommended that you should really be having that multiple back ups on storing up your keys on which memorizing is something the most risky
rather than on putting up on a paper. There are really that indeed moments that you do forget stuffs and it would be that something that crucial on just simply memorizing your keys.

If you are really that confident with this method then go ahead and try it out but dont make yourself banging up your head into the wall into the time that you would be finding
yourself having that kind of situation which you have lost all of your coins because of such mistake.

Recovery phrase can be memorized but to be on a safe side, i don't think it's good at all. If you memories it how can you pass it on when you are no more, and the person you pass it on too memories it and can't recall it,that means your Bitcoin asset is gone ,or due to health issues and can't remember ,your assets will be lost forever. No matter how brilliant or wise you are ,it is you write down or engrave your seed phrase for future and safety purpose. If you are someone that does not talk took much , it's okay ,but for someone that talks a lot , it's not safe because you don't know when you will spill it out when in mist of your friends.
 When moving out of the country, you could engrave it on a bracelet, write up on any clothe or foot wear you are wearing which will make the clothe looks like a designers outfit or even tattoo it on your skin because a lot of person will not reason such , they will be looking for paper write up.

If your wallet's recovery phase is 12 words long, it won't be hard for you to remember, but if it's 24 words long, it might be hard for you to remember. But if you can remember and store important documents at the same time, it is more convenient because in case you lose your documents, your remembered password or recovery phase will help in recovering your wallet. But you should save the documents well and keep those documents in a safe place so that they cannot destroy your documents in natural calamities.

Even it is only 10-12 words, I think it is still a problem.  :D
It is not a challenge but it's a serious risk to access our investment.
Personally, I will never try to keep it by memorizing only. It is better to keep it on a more secure way (write them on a paper, metal, or other else).

Yep. It is an unnecessary burden. Sure, there is no problem to memorize it but don't only keep it in a single method.
Sometimes, we already gamble investing in random coins. Why we must gamble again for the way to access it?  ;D It is not a funny way to manage our investment. If we can't remember it, everything will be gone forever.

It's possible to memorize your seed phrase, but with lots of information going to your mind on a daily basis, I doubt that you can remember it for months or even years.

I've created lots of wallets already ever since I joined the crypto space. From Electrum, to Metamask, to Ronin wallet and others, I've always wrote all of their seed phrases and put it on a storage where I know it will be safe. I also put a lock on it so that it will add an extra layer of security. I know this isn't the best way of storing seed phrases, but in a community where I am right now where it's only me who knows anything about crypto, I still feel that it's safe at least. :D

Anyway, memorizing your seed phrase ALONE will give you some problems. Memorizing it would be fine but find another way to secure your seed phrase.

We can remember a wallet seed phrase if we always practice recalling it every day. We have to remember it first and on daily basis, we must recall these seed phrase. Practice it daily will help our brain does not forget these words.

If we don't do it daily, we certainly will forget all of seed words or few of them after one, two weeks or some months.

Practice it daily is a good way to remember seed phrase but it only works if we don't have health accidents that can affect our brain and memory. We can not control health accidents so this method, using brain and memory to remember seed phrase is risky.

I can memorize my seed words if I really have to. I did it in the past and it worked well but then I didn’t want to spend my brain resources on that while a piece of paper can work as well, sometimes better.

If you are going to memorize your seed words at least have a paper backup around because you can’t know when the dementia will get you. It could be anytime. It happens to young people too.

It only takes one forgotten word or letter to mess everything up. Bitcoin’s history is full of stories like that.

I don't even remember one of them at the moment. I believe in saving in some way to avoid losing. This is too risky, when you just remember. The other thing is, my memory is not very good so I don't remember it.
I don't think there is enough 1 model to avoid losing Recovery Phrase. The more you have a way to store in a certain place, maybe it will make it easier for you if you have problems with losing phrases. Although it can also make you worry about being stolen by people. But with a little combination that you understand it will make it difficult, besides that I am sure not everyone understands about phrases.

Memorizing seed phrases may be easy, but we never know how in the future our memory could weaken for various reasons. Maybe memorizing is an alternative, but can you guarantee that in the future our memories will remain the same? But for now, personally I don't do that and prefer other ways to store the seed phrases that I have because I'm afraid we will forget them.

The debate regarding saving seed phrases is always the most interesting because this is a security measure that needs to be maintained properly and everyone must have an effective method according to their own views. There are several methods that have been explained and maybe you can make a study of the security measures chosen.

I do think we will be wasting our time memorizing something that we can write on a paper and store safety than to use our brains. Our brains should be useful for some other things thay can be easy to remember. If we use our brains for memorizing seed phrase, what are we going to do with things that are needed to be stored in the brain but it has already been used up by our seed phrase. Seed phrase should be stored in a safer place that we can not forget but are easy to remember because our brains can free up some things to make room for more relevant things to be stored. It will be very wrong to store our seed phrase in our brains. We should not try to do that in spite the fact that it can be successfully done.

You are right, of course it is a waste of time if we choose to memorize something that we can write down and store well and it would be better for us to use the memory we have on something that is more useful than choosing to memorize the seed phrase.
I think with the many things we do in this life it will certainly be very difficult to really remember them well and if we forget the good phrase and the assets we have accumulated a lot of course this will be very sad for us because we have made a mistake that is very big.

It is better not to just memorize the recovery phrase, the risk of forgetting is high. I can't even remember 12 words because it is too difficult for me. Writing the initial recovery phrase on a piece of paper is right in my opinion, but it is better to keep it in a safer place, maybe at home where not everyone knows. Don't keep it in a place where people might see it, such as the office, living room or others.

There's also nothing wrong with it and maybe it won't be a waste of time for some people because memorizing is the option they choose. But there should be another method that is more elegant and more precise so that when our memory starts to wane there is something we can look at to remind ourselves of. Several options can be executed according to a much better level of security and each individual should have these options rather than memorizing them.

While this is rarely done and very few people memorize the starting phrase, we are starting to see someone who might try it. So discussions like this began to arise based on observations and suggestions he wanted to hear from several people who took part in the discussion.

That depends on how often you use the passphrase and of course most of us use it very rarely when we have some problems with our computer,laptop or mobile depending on where we have setup our wallets.However there are cases where a person can remember anything dear to him for a long time and never forget it,personally I know all the numbers of my three bank cards,two debit ones and one credit card memorized so whenever I do a transaction,that want to buy something I don't have the need to pull out my real life wallet and take out the cards.If the passphrase of a Bitcoin wallet would be so dear to me (if I have quite some nice amount of money in there) I would have no problem memorizing it and also not forgetting it,of course to be sure I would also keep it in another computer that never goes online,what I mean is that there are cases where learning the passphrase and memorizing it is not difficult at all.