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Title: Here's how close bank (world) collapse might be.
Post by: BADecker on July 09, 2024, 04:01:58 AM
The amount of the IRS tax determines how much the government can borrow from the banks.

If Trump shuts down the Federal Income Tax, no more IRS tax... no more borrowing from the banks by government.

In addition, government will need to pay back 2024 withheld money.

Government and Fed Bank shrink to nothing financially. USD lives on what is in existence, only. Other world money becomes important... BRICS.

When people of the world see that US citizens don't have to pay taxes, they will rebel against their own taxation. Big change in world banking and operation. Down with the Deep State as we know it.

Trump's implementation of methods to save the world will look like Dictatorship. But it will only be saving the world during freedom coming to us all.

The danger might be in what presidents after Trump might try to do.

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Title: Re: Here's how close bank (world) collapse might be.
Post by: Hispo on July 09, 2024, 11:31:20 PM
And what is supposed to happen with the national debt the United States has, which is even bigger than the GDP of the country as a whole?. Not even mentioning that the United States would still have a very big deficit. Where does the money is going to come from?
Are you implying that allowing the United States to go into default would be a good thing? Because that would negatively impact not only the stock market of the USA but also most of the markets internationally.
What about an strategy which actually makes more sense, like moving towards paying the national debt and taxing people fairly to work towards that objective?


Title: Re: Here's how close bank (world) collapse might be.
Post by: o48o on July 09, 2024, 11:52:50 PM
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Trump's implementation of methods to save the world will look like Dictatorship.
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Because that's what it is.

I am assuming that you have read the Project 2025 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025) and their plan to end your democracy. And i know saying "your" is a stretch, as everyone has a hard time believing you are even an US citizen. You even openly advocate for ignoring the laws in USA. Not agreeing US laws as contracts, pretty much tells us that you don't agree of being an US citizen.


Title: Re: Here's how close bank (world) collapse might be.
Post by: BADecker on July 10, 2024, 03:52:45 AM
And what is supposed to happen with the national debt the United States has, which is even bigger than the GDP of the country as a whole?. Not even mentioning that the United States would still have a very big deficit. Where does the money is going to come from?
Are you implying that allowing the United States to go into default would be a good thing? Because that would negatively impact not only the stock market of the USA but also most of the markets internationally.
What about an strategy which actually makes more sense, like moving towards paying the national debt and taxing people fairly to work towards that objective?

The term 'debt' indicates borrower and lender. Please identify them.

The US is the government. If they go into default, it's because they orchestrated it that way. Let the US Treasury money-print the government right out of default, rather than borrowing from a bank.

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Title: Re: Here's how close bank (world) collapse might be.
Post by: BADecker on July 10, 2024, 03:55:53 AM
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Trump's implementation of methods to save the world will look like Dictatorship.
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Because that's what it is.

I am assuming that you have read the Project 2025 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025) and their plan to end your democracy. And i know saying "your" is a stretch, as everyone has a hard time believing you are even an US citizen. You even openly advocate for ignoring the laws in USA. Not agreeing US laws as contracts, pretty much tells us that you don't agree of being an US citizen.

Do you mean to tell me that you are a subject of a king rather than ruler over your government?

While it might be difficult for some people to recognize their freedom, and very few understand the difference between people and persons, the people and their guns aren't slaves.

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Title: Re: Here's how close bank (world) collapse might be.
Post by: BADecker on July 11, 2024, 11:44:06 AM
If Trump holds to his promise, and the IRS is shut down like in the OP, and people get all their withholding back, don't waste it. Buy...

Land with water on it...

Bags of pre-1965 dimes and quarters... that can be spent at face value if necessary, or that can be held for their silver value...

Small denomination gold coins...

Make friends and cement relationships. It might not be cozy until the dust settles.

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Title: Re: Here's how close bank (world) collapse might be.
Post by: o48o on July 11, 2024, 12:38:33 PM
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Trump's implementation of methods to save the world will look like Dictatorship.
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Because that's what it is.

I am assuming that you have read the Project 2025 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025) and their plan to end your democracy. And i know saying "your" is a stretch, as everyone has a hard time believing you are even an US citizen. You even openly advocate for ignoring the laws in USA. Not agreeing US laws as contracts, pretty much tells us that you don't agree of being an US citizen.

Do you mean to tell me that you are a subject of a king rather than ruler over your government?

While it might be difficult for some people to recognize their freedom, and very few understand the difference between people and persons, the people and their guns aren't slaves.
Says a man who needs a wannabe king to rule him.

Funny how you claim to live in US, because usually people from first world countries understand how their own country works. Did you go to school, or are you just winging it?

As i know your post history, maybe i shouldn't be surprised that you don't know the difference between absolute monarchy, democracy and dictatorship and how rule of law apply in them. But in a case you gave skipped some classes on different political systems, i'll explain this you like you were five:

Absolute monarchy and dictatorship: When it comes to rule of law in both of them, ruling authority can change the rules / laws as they wish, and laws only apply to their their subjects (citizens and slaves) and not the supreme authority. And this what Trump and you want; To be above the law.

Democracy: There is equality before the law. Even Joe's son is in jail. Which is something that even your imaginary "deep state" didn't prevent.

Is that simple enough for you? Or would you prefer if someone explained that with a 15 second tik-tok dance?


Title: Re: Here's how close bank (world) collapse might be.
Post by: BADecker on July 11, 2024, 06:18:24 PM
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Do you mean to tell me that you are a subject of a king rather than ruler over your government?

While it might be difficult for some people to recognize their freedom, and very few understand the difference between people and persons, the people and their guns aren't slaves.
Says a man who needs a wannabe king to rule him.

Funny how you claim to live in US, because usually people from first world countries understand how their own country works. Did you go to school, or are you just winging it?

As i know your post history, maybe i shouldn't be surprised that you don't know the difference between absolute monarchy, democracy and dictatorship and how rule of law apply in them. But in a case you gave skipped some classes on different political systems, i'll explain this you like you were five:

Absolute monarchy and dictatorship: When it comes to rule of law in both of them, ruling authority can change the rules / laws as they wish, and laws only apply to their their subjects (citizens and slaves) and not the supreme authority. And this what Trump and you want; To be above the law.

Democracy: There is equality before the law. Even Joe's son is in jail. Which is something that even your imaginary "deep state" didn't prevent.

Is that simple enough for you? Or would you prefer if someone explained that with a 15 second tik-tok dance?

Well, well. Can't answer, so you throw out ad hominem stuff. Standard for some jokers.

You didn't think about Democracy, did you. Democracy is simply small group dictatorship. It's a way to make the people feel like they did something.

Anybody that has the power does what he wants. It doesn't make him right or righteous. But he does it anyway. The evidence of Trump's past actions is good stuff. He might change, but odds are he won't. However, it doesn't have anything to do with us except that we want it to.

Learn common law, that is, common lore.

Watch the short video here - http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Article/365229-2024-07-11-the-ideal-of-a-constitutional-republic-is-of-individual-liberty.htm.

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Title: Re: Here's how close bank (world) collapse might be.
Post by: o48o on July 13, 2024, 12:12:42 PM
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Do you mean to tell me that you are a subject of a king rather than ruler over your government?

While it might be difficult for some people to recognize their freedom, and very few understand the difference between people and persons, the people and their guns aren't slaves.
Says a man who needs a wannabe king to rule him.

Funny how you claim to live in US, because usually people from first world countries understand how their own country works. Did you go to school, or are you just winging it?

As i know your post history, maybe i shouldn't be surprised that you don't know the difference between absolute monarchy, democracy and dictatorship and how rule of law apply in them. But in a case you gave skipped some classes on different political systems, i'll explain this you like you were five:

Absolute monarchy and dictatorship: When it comes to rule of law in both of them, ruling authority can change the rules / laws as they wish, and laws only apply to their their subjects (citizens and slaves) and not the supreme authority. And this what Trump and you want; To be above the law.

Democracy: There is equality before the law. Even Joe's son is in jail. Which is something that even your imaginary "deep state" didn't prevent.

Is that simple enough for you? Or would you prefer if someone explained that with a 15 second tik-tok dance?

Well, well. Can't answer, so you throw out ad hominem stuff. Standard for some jokers.

You didn't think about Democracy, did you. Democracy is simply small group dictatorship. It's a way to make the people feel like they did something.

Anybody that has the power does what he wants. It doesn't make him right or righteous. But he does it anyway. The evidence of Trump's past actions is good stuff. He might change, but odds are he won't. However, it doesn't have anything to do with us except that we want it to.

Learn common law, that is, common lore.

Yeah, i am not clicking anything that gives your site traffic. But do i really need to explain you that statutory law beats common law in US? As it's way higher in hierarchy in US laws. Here's a simple enough chart for you:

https://courses.worldcampus.psu.edu/welcome/comm428b/001/content/02_lesson/images/hierarchy%20of%20laws%201.png

But i imagine it's hard for you to to start with basics as you always seem to want some alternative version to be the main thing. More obscure, unscientific and and unsecular, the better. Right?


Title: Re: Here's how close bank (world) collapse might be.
Post by: BADecker on July 13, 2024, 12:42:05 PM
^^^ Common Law is judiciary law... court decisions. But you are using the wrong chart.

The chart you should be using is one that would list things as below:

God and His law at the top.
Man using God's law next - Common Lore.
Statute law least important.

A gift for you.

Man is free under God's law as long as he doesn't harm another man. So, the first thing that a man does when called to account is to require anybody who has been harmed by him to step forward with evidence and proof, and the man who did the harm will reimburse the one harmed.

The only way statute law applies is when a man makes a contract with other people to let them decide the damage or harm he caused. But they need to judge correctly, or they will be the ones who are harming him, and will owe him to the extent of the damage they did to him.

The trouble with the American public is - note that this the same problem that Trump has - the people don't know how to apply this info. Here is how it works.

If an accused man doesn't make a contract to let others decide his guilt, there is nothing that can accuse him except another man (women included, of course). An indictment or notice of accusation doesn't exist without a man making it. Nobody harms another man by not obeying a statute, except if he would have harmed the other man had the statute not existed. Statutes have to do with agreements, not with harm or damage.

So, when accused, simply stand as a man, totally outside of representation (contract or agreement), and require somebody to prove harm or damage to another man. That's the way American law is set up. Freedom and liberty for all unless there is proof of harm or damage.

Mostly, the courts are harming people by not explaining this right of the people. Breaking a statute harms nobody except that the harm would have been done without the statute anyway. The judges owe for not giving proper notice to people found guilty for no-harm 'crimes'.

People use fiat voluntarily, by agreement. Not because they are forced. Trump doing away with the income tax is a way that property is no longer stolen from the people by the government and the banks... since people have not been properly noticed that IRS tax is voluntary.

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Title: Re: Here's how close bank (world) collapse might be.
Post by: o48o on July 13, 2024, 01:09:05 PM
^^^ Common Law is judiciary law... court decisions. But you are using the wrong chart.

The chart you should be using is one that would list things as below:

God and His law at the top.
Man using God's law next - Common Lore.
Statute law least important.
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I thought you would even try, as that seemed to be your effort quoting the commong law, but you went straight to God and BADshit crazy arguments. God didn't make your constitution, nor any laws in US. And we were talking about the rules and laws of US or even rules of this world. But since you stopped paying any attention to them, you might as well stop justifying anything even closely related to real world evidence in the future.

Even your your own presidental nominee never read the bible, so just quit that act.


Title: Re: Here's how close bank (world) collapse might be.
Post by: BADecker on July 13, 2024, 01:24:53 PM
^^^ Common Law is judiciary law... court decisions. But you are using the wrong chart.

The chart you should be using is one that would list things as below:

God and His law at the top.
Man using God's law next - Common Lore.
Statute law least important.
-cut-
I thought you would even try, as that seemed to be your effort quoting the commong law, but you went straight to God and BADshit crazy arguments. God didn't make your constitution, nor any laws in US. And we were talking about the rules and laws of US or even rules of this world. But since you stopped paying any attention to them, you might as well stop justifying anything even closely related to real world evidence in the future.

Even your your own presidental nominee never read the bible, so just quit that act.

You are mistaken. Statute law is there, but it is least important. All you need do is look at what you quoted. Common Lore is acknowledged by statute law. It is shown in our right to face our accuser. A statute can't stand and answer the questions of the accused. Only people can do that. But an accuser must show how he has been harmed or damaged by the breaking of a statute, or any other way. This is basic American law... Common Lore. No harm or damage, no case... except that the accused agrees that there is a case without harm or damage. But, even this might be illegal. An accused needs to express such.

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Title: Re: Here's how close bank (world) collapse might be.
Post by: legiteum on July 13, 2024, 03:12:30 PM
The amount of the IRS tax determines how much the government can borrow from the banks.

If Trump shuts down the Federal Income Tax, no more IRS tax... no more borrowing from the banks by government.


Then Trump won't do that.  Duh.



Title: Re: Here's how close bank (world) collapse might be.
Post by: BADecker on July 13, 2024, 10:36:08 PM
The amount of the IRS tax determines how much the government can borrow from the banks.

If Trump shuts down the Federal Income Tax, no more IRS tax... no more borrowing from the banks by government.


Then Trump won't do that.  Duh.



Policies might be changed so that something else repays the banks other than the income tax. The thing that repays the banks might be the thing that Trump will replace the income tax with. However, there were banks for a long time before the Federal Reserve Bank was started. The Fed might have outlasted its usefulness.

In addition, why pay the Fed double like is happening right now? The whole world would be better off without letting the Fed interfere with governing through its manipulation of the money system.

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