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Title: Is labour wealth?
Post by: premier97 on July 14, 2024, 05:44:59 PM
Labour for me is human productive effort towards achieving set target.To answer the question, labour may be wealth, in the sense that when others labour while you fold your harms and watch from where will the wealth come from? Wealth creation cannot be separated from human effort  both mental and  physical.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: CryptopreneurBrainboss on July 14, 2024, 09:08:13 PM
Labour is wealth, wealth can be created with your physical or mental skills. There are some people that will be fortunate to inherit wealth but for the rest of us we have to work to achieve wealth. If you don't work you won't make money and it's money that can be used to build wealth. While labour is wealth lets not limit our thinking to it meaning hardwork because gone are the days when hardwork pays off. What you need now is to work smart and not hard. An example can be seen between a hodler and a trader, the trader would be seen as the hard worker because he has to study and monitor the market frequently but yet his success isn't guaranteed by a hodler (investor) only needs to have the money to buy Bitcoin and hodl for some years and he is definitely going to be more successful than the trader.

Wealth creation cannot be separated from human effort  both mental and physical.

Effort is mandatory for wealth creation, wealth don't just happen, you have to be mentally and physically prepared for wealth before you achieve it. Not everyone can be wealthy because not everyone can be willing to sacrifice what is needed to become wealthy. People are comfortable with being able to afford their daily need that they don't build to create wealth for themselves and other generation to come.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Egii Nna on July 14, 2024, 09:20:29 PM
Labour for me is human productive effort towards achieving set target.To answer the question, labour may be wealth, in the sense that when others labour while you fold your harms and watch from where will the wealth come from? Wealth creation cannot be separated from human effort  both mental and  physical.

Labour can actually bring a good outcome, but labour doesn’t still guarantee you to have wealth, but working smart combined with labour can guarantee that. This is why you alway have to understand how to go on your goal sometimes you don’t only need labour to succeed in life. Because those that their parents have already have the wealth will not suffer that much to gain any wealth, so even without labour they can still survive but when they work smarter and a bit of labour it will make that wealth go a long way for them.

Moreover, most people will even differentiate this two for you, because labour is not wealth. Labour simply means the effort that you can put in to get a proper outcome of even an achievement. While wealth can be defined as those assets and collaboration that you have with other rich people like you.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Juse14 on July 14, 2024, 09:33:15 PM
In the pursuit of their goals, individuals commit time, energy, and skill, an investment that ultimately yields value. This value may take the form of a product, service, or innovation: an offering that can benefit society at large.

Those who do not contribute personally but depend on others for work are not really creating wealth but consuming the fruits of others' labor; it underscores that wealth creation is contingent on individual or collective input.

Another point is the role of work as a learning and development opportunity. The process of work itself helps an individual to acquire skill, experience and self-development which contribute towards productivity, and thus wealth creation.

We must recognize that work involves creativity, strategy and wisdom in addition to physical exertion: these elements collectively influence value creation and wealth.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Adams0001 on July 14, 2024, 10:37:53 PM
Labour for me is human productive effort towards achieving set target.To answer the question, labour may be wealth, in the sense that when others labour while you fold your harms and watch from where will the wealth come from? Wealth creation cannot be separated from human effort  both mental and  physical.

Labour is wealth and without labour they cannot be result of wealth no matter how. In the sense that you just have to fold your hands and see your wealth grow while others do the labour for you have signified how far you have come with your wealth creation through extensive labour you’ve participated in overtime to have breed this for you. If you haven’t made some sacrifices in the past, you can’t reach that stage where you want people to be doing the work and you sit and get the reward for that. At this stage, it means you’re given out of your wealth and getting larger amount in return. This is just like investment, you invest some little penny into those people doing the labour work for you and the result of the labour is now turned to more wealth for you to enjoy. By doing so, you’ve engaged both your physical and mental self in accomplishing your wealth want in life. Also at this stage, you may not require a lot of labour and you’ll be dealing more with your mental state which will also not be required that much.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: logfiles on July 14, 2024, 10:52:31 PM
I think it's just a matter of perspective. It depends on how you look at it and who your "employer" is, but to me, Labor is not wealth.
Let's say you are a donkey, camel or horse? Would you say labor is wealth? I don't think so. Those right there are the hardest working animals in human communities. Even the slaves and casual workers in most Third World countries would disagree with you.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: STT on July 14, 2024, 11:54:14 PM
You can measure the potential of a nation by its available working age population, China for example has a falling working population surprisingly.  Its the fallout of their communist policies forcing the end of traditional families, people are a big resource for any country no matter what negatives people might say about the demands of feeding a population the productivity of a person is hard to beat for investment returns.

Its far more complicated of course, I expect China will do well so long as they can increase the efficiency of their economy to follow the demands of a fast moving global economy.   However it will be alot harder to do so having lost the mass production advantage and low cost they would have once had.  China is being undercut in the lowest costs by other countries and that will probably continue as a trend for some time.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: franky1 on July 15, 2024, 12:18:41 AM
when you can buy a machine or a automated system.. non-labour can produce returns which if those returns are profitable then that profit can accumulate wealth

when you use your labour. unless you are charging your time beyond your costs to live, it wont produce profit to accumulate wealth.
and as other people have said many people can be managers and subcontract/delegate others to do tasks

many people on menial jobs dont get paid extra for their time. many managers ask low paid employees to work harder for no pay rise, ask them to stay on longer to finish a task because "thats your job"

many women can earn more sat on a bed unbuttoning their shirt for 20 minutes compared to working a whole month doing hard manual labour on a construction site.

so no labour and wealth are not that linked


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: wxa7115 on July 15, 2024, 03:00:51 AM
Labour for me is human productive effort towards achieving set target.To answer the question, labour may be wealth, in the sense that when others labour while you fold your harms and watch from where will the wealth come from? Wealth creation cannot be separated from human effort  both mental and  physical.
If you apply a process to a set of natural resources which transform them in some way or form, there is still no way to know if you produced any wealth despite the the time and labor you put into it, as everything depends on the demand such transformation can garner.

The best example of this is art, in which an artist can use a bunch of materials to create a painting, but if no one wants it then not only wealth was not generated, but it was destroyed too, as you cannot even recover the cost of the materials, however if a different and more talented artist used the same materials to create a masterpiece then a great deal of wealth is indeed generated.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Davidvictorson on July 15, 2024, 07:02:52 AM
Labour leads to wealth. However this labor that we speak of is not just some random efforts towards and ambiguous goal of wealth creation. The labor that leads to wealth  creation is a deliberate, disciplined, intentional, conscious, and  consistent effort directed towards a set goal and objective. For example setting up a business that services the needs of people in your community leads to wealth creation. These businesses could include plumbing or an auto mechanic shop, a car wash etc There could be others but these labors often have the features that have been mentioned surely leads to wealth.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: reagansimms on July 15, 2024, 08:49:47 AM
To gain wealth you have to work, there are so many types of jobs that you can choose depending on the skills you have to accumulate wealth. In the era of increasingly sophisticated digitalization, you have to have skills to make it easier to earn money, now you have to work smart to make it easier for you to achieve the goals you dream of. For me, now it's no longer the time to work hard to make money (relying on energy to make money), you have to work smart like investing (relying on money to make money).

Utilizing the skills you have to build a business based on the experience you have, you can hire several employees to help you make money. Investing in Bitcoin can also make money as long as you have expertise in the field, it takes time, skill and patience to achieve a level of success in investing, but if you are able to overcome all the shocks that occur in the market, you will get big benefits from the investments you have made so far.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Helena Yu on July 15, 2024, 09:42:14 AM
To gain wealth you have to work, there are so many types of jobs that you can choose depending on the skills you have to accumulate wealth. In the era of increasingly sophisticated digitalization, you have to have skills to make it easier to earn money, now you have to work smart to make it easier for you to achieve the goals you dream of. For me, now it's no longer the time to work hard to make money (relying on energy to make money), you have to work smart like investing (relying on money to make money).

Utilizing the skills you have to build a business based on the experience you have, you can hire several employees to help you make money. Investing in Bitcoin can also make money as long as you have expertise in the field, it takes time, skill and patience to achieve a level of success in investing, but if you are able to overcome all the shocks that occur in the market, you will get big benefits from the investments you have made so far.
Bla bla bla.

Most people are middle class, they do have savings, but the amount is not that high even they have working for many years, so they will not use all of their saving to invest since they afraid if they lose all the hard earned money

Build a business require a big amount of money and if you can hire several employees, it means you have huge amount of money, only privilege people have it.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Taskford on July 15, 2024, 11:10:02 AM
Labour for me is human productive effort towards achieving set target.To answer the question, labour may be wealth, in the sense that when others labour while you fold your harms and watch from where will the wealth come from? Wealth creation cannot be separated from human effort  both mental and  physical.

I guess yes since labor can create something useful either for services or to the products it provided that's why its consider to be a wealth for people since it can produce something good result to anyone especially if what people do is beneficial to a lot of people.

But it also depends on what or how what is your definition towards this since I guess we have different opinion regarding to this. But don't do labor all your life and settle for less create something that can create more valuable result that can change your life. Its hard to live a 9 - 5 set up that's why take out that labor gaining option and upgrade your skills to became better then get more benefits from this.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: mirakal on July 15, 2024, 11:12:39 AM
I think it's just a matter of perspective. It depends on how you look at it and who your "employer" is, but to me, Labor is not wealth.
Let's say you are a donkey, camel or horse? Would you say labor is wealth? I don't think so. Those right there are the hardest working animals in human communities. Even the slaves and casual workers in most Third World countries would disagree with you.
Labor may not be seen as wealth but it could somehow be a great foundation to accumulate wealth. Without labor, there wouldn't be a productive outcome that will also contribute to one's wealth.

However, if we are talking here some labor animals, it can be considered wealth on the part of its owners but for those hard-working animals, they will never see such wealth on what they are doing.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Gozie51 on July 15, 2024, 11:32:27 AM
Labour for me is human productive effort towards achieving set target.To answer the question, labour may be wealth, in the sense that when others labour while you fold your harms and watch from where will the wealth come from? Wealth creation cannot be separated from human effort  both mental and  physical.

You are not that wrong depending on how you perceive what is labour or in the sense that you are explaining labour to be. If you have classified labour to mean only the physical aspect of strength and muscle then it may not be apt. But to generalize labour to be effort put into what you do to survive and getting a living then it is correct that one can't fold their hands doing nothing. And the rate of wise labour you invest in what you do can become wealth to you. I said wise labour because these days to labour wisely or smartly is what is required and not the kind of physical labour that only those that has strength or are muscler can do. Such kind of labour end you up in fast deteriorating of health through sickness because of incessant use of drugs.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: TheUltraElite on July 15, 2024, 11:39:47 AM
Labour for me is human productive effort towards achieving set target.To answer the question, labour may be wealth, in the sense that when others labour while you fold your harms and watch from where will the wealth come from? Wealth creation cannot be separated from human effort  both mental and  physical.
Labour is a type of human resource. It has its value if used in the proper manner. Work done to mine gold is the effort and that selling of gold to get money is the money that is partly paid to the humans for their labour.

So yes, labour is wealth. With a lack of labour, many industries will break down.

It is not that everyone on top just folds their arms as the lower tier works, the higher tier has much more skillful labour and less physical labour. Their stress levels are often the highest.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: davis196 on July 15, 2024, 12:16:39 PM
Labour for me is human productive effort towards achieving set target.To answer the question, labour may be wealth, in the sense that when others labour while you fold your harms and watch from where will the wealth come from? Wealth creation cannot be separated from human effort  both mental and  physical.

There are different definitions of the term "wealth":

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an abundance of valuable possessions or money:
"he used his considerable wealth to bribe officials"
Similar:
affluence
prosperity
opulence
riches
means

the state of being rich; material prosperity:
"some people buy boats and cars to display their wealth"
Similar:
prosperity
prosperousness
successfulness

plentiful supplies of a particular resource:
"the country's mineral wealth"
a plentiful supply of a particular desirable thing:
"the tables and maps contain a wealth of information"
Similar:
abundance
profusion
plethora
mine
store

archaic
well-being.

Labor is what creates value. Labor is one of the main sources of wealth, but not all wealthy people are hardworking and productive. All the "trust fund babies", who have rich parents are obviously wealthy, but didn't do anything to deserve that abundance and standard of living.
The medieval aristocracy was also very wealthy, but without putting any productive work into building their own wealth. The same applies to the "oil monarchies" in the Persian Gulf. Having lots of natural resources could bring wealth to your nation(if certain conditions are met).
Labor in itself isn't enough to achieve wealth. The world is full of hardworking people, who are poor. Intellectual labor is way more valuable than physical labor.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on July 15, 2024, 01:15:26 PM
Yea, labor is wealt. If you are not laboring to make wealth, then someone in laboring on your behalf, to enrich you as the boss. What I meant can be easily understood by watching this clip: https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMrPEgVkd/)

Even some persons that have become directors in their company might not be involving in too much labor but they have employees who are working off their ass just for a little payment while the director only has a little work to do but is the one enjoying more.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Don Pedro Dinero on July 15, 2024, 02:26:24 PM
No, it is not. Wealth you can accumulate, and work you can't, in any case what you produce, the result of your work, yes. But there are so many people who live without making ends meet that such a simple comparison makes no sense.

Labor is what creates value. Labor is one of the main sources of wealth, but not all wealthy people are hardworking and productive. All the "trust fund babies", who have rich parents are obviously wealthy, but didn't do anything to deserve that abundance and standard of living.
The medieval aristocracy was also very wealthy, but without putting any productive work into building their own wealth. The same applies to the "oil monarchies" in the Persian Gulf. Having lots of natural resources could bring wealth to your nation(if certain conditions are met).
Labor in itself isn't enough to achieve wealth. The world is full of hardworking people, who are poor. Intellectual labor is way more valuable than physical labor.

I think you got it right. In short, with our work we have a way to achieve wealth (in most cases, for wage earners, a difficult, long and hard way), but only one.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: slapper on July 15, 2024, 02:56:58 PM
All this "labor equals wealth"? Man, it's a deception. Constantly spoon-fed for ages. Seek around. Few individuals busting their asses live the high life. Low numbers. Hard labor has value. But it's not everything in wealth building. One part of the puzzle. A big one, but not the only. Wealth too. Need connections. You must understand emotions. Opportunity must be recognized and seized. Truthfully, you need some luck. Yes, bust your ass. Not the end, just the beginning


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: YOSHIE on July 15, 2024, 03:35:00 PM
Is labour wealth?
Are you talking about employees and the wealth generated by a particular company or business venture......!
If yes, it is clear that workers or employees are the backbone of the company itself, generating a lot of economy and generating wealth which definitely cannot be separated from the role of workers/employees, for that reason if you have a company, try to treat employees/workers well, workers are assets for the company's future.

Many business ventures forget about land, they think workers are trash, so they act arbitrarily, when will business owners regret it when workers quit, just realized that wealth can no longer be obtained, so consider your workers automatically wealth will be stable.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: GeorgeJohn on July 15, 2024, 10:40:19 PM
Labour for me is human productive effort towards achieving set target.To answer the question, labour may be wealth, in the sense that when others labour while you fold your harms and watch from where will the wealth come from? Wealth creation cannot be separated from human effort  both mental and  physical.
I could say that labour is wealth in the sense that a labourer deserve his wages one must work before eating, labour is truly wealth Because one must have an efficient way to get wealthy. Labourer can also be said to be the primitive period before wealth Because the end result of being laboured is wealth unless it one laboured in vain or had an issue , it can really give wealth. Wealth is acquired through consistent labour


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Promocodeudo on July 16, 2024, 06:49:17 AM
Labour for me is human productive effort towards achieving set target.To answer the question, labour may be wealth, in the sense that when others labour while you fold your harms and watch from where will the wealth come from? Wealth creation cannot be separated from human effort  both mental and  physical.

Labour is wealth and without labour they cannot be result of wealth no matter how. In the sense that you just have to fold your hands and see your wealth grow while others do the labour for you have signified how far you have come with your wealth creation through extensive labour you’ve participated in overtime to have breed this for you. If you haven’t made some sacrifices in the past, you can’t reach that stage where you want people to be doing the work and you sit and get the reward for that. At this stage, it means you’re given out of your wealth and getting larger amount in return. This is just like investment, you invest some little penny into those people doing the labour work for you and the result of the labour is now turned to more wealth for you to enjoy. By doing so, you’ve engaged both your physical and mental self in accomplishing your wealth want in life. Also at this stage, you may not require a lot of labour and you’ll be dealing more with your mental state which will also not be required that much.

In the journey of being wealthy, one must be committed in other to achieve his or her set goals,  every wealthy person started from some where and I believe the result of such person effort was what made such individual to be wealthy, it is only when you put up ideas that result will come.
Although there are people that has hustle very hard and have also engaged themselves in meaning things that aren't wealthy today, I feel that for us to be wealthy we must think outside the box in other to identify what the public wants so that we create such services to render to them and I believe in doing this such person is labouring to figure out ways to create wealth him or herself, we don't just stay idle to expect results, we must be resilient even though we fail, we should continue trying, failure is not an option for a man who believes in being wealthy, such individual believes that at every point in time, the brain should be at work to think out what line of action to take in other to continuously grow wealth, in conclusion, I know that some persons may be unlucky, no matter how it is, the major thing that triggers wealth is labour.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: rodskee on July 16, 2024, 07:20:22 AM
Is labour wealth?
Are you talking about employees and the wealth generated by a particular company or business venture......!
i am also quite confused about what labour means in this context

the replies make it seem op is talking about labour in a sense that you are the one working yourself most people do not associate labour with wealth if you are working 24/7 and have your back bent over whatever you’re doing then you will be considered poor meanwhile people who have others work for them are the ones considered wealthy


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: jaberwock on July 16, 2024, 07:28:32 PM
Labour for me is human productive effort towards achieving set target.To answer the question, labour may be wealth, in the sense that when others labour while you fold your harms and watch from where will the wealth come from? Wealth creation cannot be separated from human effort  both mental and  physical.
I could say that labour is wealth in the sense that a labourer deserve his wages one must work before eating, labour is truly wealth Because one must have an efficient way to get wealthy. Labourer can also be said to be the primitive period before wealth Because the end result of being laboured is wealth unless it one laboured in vain or had an issue , it can really give wealth. Wealth is acquired through consistent labour
One must work before eating? I think that's cruel. How can we have an energy to do our task if we don't eat first? Eating is important before everything else, especially the break fast one, though I think you also mean about the salary that we need to work hard first before we can obtain it and then we can eat a fine food that we want.

Wealth can be subjective and does not always mean money, and then some ways to get a wealth can only be simple or even not an efficient one. In addition to what I said first, health is also wealth and how can we be able to earn money if we are sick and weak because we neglect the basic and important things such as eating?


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Abu-Naim on July 16, 2024, 08:13:18 PM
Labour for me is human productive effort towards achieving set target.To answer the question, labour may be wealth, in the sense that when others labour while you fold your harms and watch from where will the wealth come from? Wealth creation cannot be separated from human effort  both mental and  physical.
Yes Labor is wealth because you use your physical and mental strength to earn money for yourself, this money you made through your hard work is your wealth, which means labor is wealth because if you didn’t use your strength, you will never get anything.

Take farming for example; farmers that don’t have money for mechanization do use their strength to farm, they do sell their farm products for money which is their wealth, they achieve this through their hard work of labor which means labor is their wealth.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: passwordnow on July 16, 2024, 08:50:05 PM
Wealth creation cannot be separated from human effort  both mental and  physical.
I agree about that. It's from us and we need to work for it. Whether you'd work smartly or hardly, or combined both of them. You'd still that there's the effort that comes from us. Without such, we don't know how to do it. And that's why there are people that have been blessed with their lives because they've been one of the hardest workers in the world and from there, they're realizing how they can make their lives better through their labour. Whilst the complainers, they don't have any other thing to say but to keep on complaining and their times are wasted with that matters instead of focusing to their labours.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Fortify on July 16, 2024, 09:09:02 PM
Labour for me is human productive effort towards achieving set target.To answer the question, labour may be wealth, in the sense that when others labour while you fold your harms and watch from where will the wealth come from? Wealth creation cannot be separated from human effort  both mental and  physical.

While labor can create wealth, it doesn't necessarily generate the most wealth for the person doing the laboring. Often you need vast infrastructures built up which create added value from that labor - think of car manufacturing or iphone factory lines. However you can have some basic jobs which directly create wealth for the person, if they choose to be in a more freelance type professional - like a home decorator, barber or electrician. Wealth absolutely can be separated from human effort - if you think that property is a store of wealth and those that own property may simply make money by renting out a place to live to people, but that has not necessarily involved much labor at all in the process.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: radjie on July 17, 2024, 05:18:38 AM
Working can indeed make a person rich, but of course from the results obtained one must be clever in managing finances.  There are many incidents where someone continues to work hard but cannot produce anything because they are too wasteful and cannot limit their desires


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: DubemIfedigbo001 on July 17, 2024, 05:54:40 AM
Labour is wealth, wealth can be created with your physical or mental skills. There are some people that will be fortunate to inherit wealth but for the rest of us we have to work to achieve wealth. If you don't work you won't make money and it's money that can be used to build wealth.
I validate this point as you must do something tangible in the direction of wealth creation to be wealthy, you must put in maximum effort to be able to secure your dream future as a wealthy man, Even those who inherits wealth from the family must work hard not to loose it to scammers and different financial parasites.

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While labour is wealth lets not limit our thinking to it meaning hardwork because gone are the days when hardwork pays off. What you need now is to work smart and not hard. An example can be seen between a hodler and a trader, the trader would be seen as the hard worker because he has to study and monitor the market frequently but yet his success isn't guaranteed by a hodler (investor) only needs to have the money to buy Bitcoin and hodl for some years and he is definitely going to be more successful than the trader.

It is pertinent to note that before you think about working smart, you must work hard initially before you are plunged to the realm where working smart only is possible, citing your example above, the person has to work hard to get the funds and also the knowledge to purchase and secure his funds, else it would be lost and his assumed smart work lost anyways.

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Wealth creation cannot be separated from human effort  both mental and physical.

Effort is mandatory for wealth creation, wealth don't just happen, you have to be mentally and physically prepared for wealth before you achieve it. Not everyone can be wealthy because not everyone can be willing to sacrifice what is needed to become wealthy. People are comfortable with being able to afford their daily need that they don't build to create wealth for themselves and other generation to come.
Wealth is a thing of the mind, especially if you were not born with a silver spoon. There has to be a maximum shift in your mentality to radiate the waves and desire to wealth accumulation. Some principles must be observed especially Desire, specialized knowledge, focus and commitment to the course of wealth creation.

To be wealthy is about you as a person and not about having the money because even if you dash a person with low financial intelligence a lot of money, there would be possible mismanagement and loss of all funds with time, but a financially aware person would seek possibilities of maximizing the funds to create bigger wealth.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: mu_enrico on July 17, 2024, 07:12:48 AM
Labor is a single type of resource, not wealth, as wealth is the situation where you have abundant resources. You're not yet wealthy if you have only labor (yourself, your energy). There are many types of labor, such as skilled and unskilled, etc., so it will differ in value as a resource.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: kryptqnick on July 17, 2024, 08:43:10 AM
Labour for me is human productive effort towards achieving set target.To answer the question, labour may be wealth, in the sense that when others labour while you fold your harms and watch from where will the wealth come from? Wealth creation cannot be separated from human effort  both mental and  physical.
Labour is not wealth, but it's a means of obtaining wealth, the way I see it. If you are able to work productively, this ability is your asset, and you can put that asset to work, which may or may not result in wealth. Wealth can be obtained without labour (via inheritance, luck, or something like that), and labour doesn't always lead to wealth (you might work very hard but have a very low salary that barely allows to make ends meet, or you might have a great salary but serious financial obligations due to caretaking, serious health issues, etc.)


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Roseline492 on July 17, 2024, 09:12:02 AM
Labour for me is human productive effort towards achieving set target.To answer the question, labour may be wealth, in the sense that when others labour while you fold your harms and watch from where will the wealth come from? Wealth creation cannot be separated from human effort  both mental and  physical.

We have two types of process at which people use to acquire wealth, the first one is wealth acquire through labour while the second one is a wealth acquire through inheritance, so actually 99 percent of rich people in the world now became successful because of how hard they have laboured because there is no way somebody will relaxed in one particular place and expect to become rich overnight it doesn't really work that way because to become successful you will always go through the labour process, however in as much as we also have what is called inheritance it also involves labour because to multiply the wealth you will always labour by putting in so much effort, so actually labour is Wealth because they are intertwined.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Die_empty on July 17, 2024, 09:17:12 AM
I think it's just a matter of perspective. It depends on how you look at it and who your "employer" is, but to me, Labor is not wealth.
Let's say you are a donkey, camel or horse? Would you say labor is wealth? I don't think so. Those right there are the hardest working animals in human communities. Even the slaves and casual workers in most Third World countries would disagree with you.
There are different types of labour which can include skilled, unskilled, semi-skilled, and highly skilled or professional. Unskilled workers usually put in more labor but they earn low. The level of your skill will determine how much effort you put in and how much you earn. Highly skilled workers usually contribute mental labor but they earn more than others who put in physical labor. Even in third-world nations, those who are highly skilled still earn more.

Using animals to illustrate your perspective is funny, however your view is valid. The reason why these animals work hard is because they are not mentally sound like others. Dogs, cats, and other domestic animals live better lives because they portray higher intelligence. Dogs and cats work with law enforcement agents as detectives because they are skillful workers.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: justdimin on July 17, 2024, 10:11:32 AM
Labour for me is human productive effort towards achieving set target.To answer the question, labour may be wealth, in the sense that when others labour while you fold your harms and watch from where will the wealth come from? Wealth creation cannot be separated from human effort  both mental and  physical.
Back in the day this was the case, all those henry ford type of people became rich by hiring more and more people to work for them, you could have dozens of factories and hire thousands of people. There are still places like that, look at companies who have the highest number of employees, they are high up there in the market cap as well. But it is not needed anymore, you could have just your money working for you, because in this day and age, money makes money. When you think about that, you realize that you would be actually doing fine.

All in all, you could just not have even one employee, and could have hundreds of millions of dollars, and keep making millions from that money as well by investing it correctly without hiring anyone or having any business.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: knowngunman on July 17, 2024, 11:14:29 AM
I think it's just a matter of perspective. It depends on how you look at it and who your "employer" is, but to me, Labor is not wealth.
Let's say you are a donkey, camel or horse? Would you say labor is wealth? I don't think so. Those right there are the hardest working animals in human communities. Even the slaves and casual workers in most Third World countries would disagree with you.

 ;D ;D This analogy seems very unusual because some people may want to argue that these animals you mentioned don’t need wealth in the same way that we humans do but it’s actually the perfect example that shows labor doesn’t always translate to wealth.

We can’t refute the fact that hard work (labor) is important in wealth creation but it is not the sole factor contributing to it. We have all fallen to misconception that wealth is a result of hard work and ignore the many other factors. Labor is just a piece of the puzzle among others such as access to resources and opportunities.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: EarnOnVictor on July 17, 2024, 11:47:42 AM
Labour for me is human productive effort towards achieving set target.To answer the question, labour may be wealth, in the sense that when others labour while you fold your harms and watch from where will the wealth come from? Wealth creation cannot be separated from human effort  both mental and  physical.
No, you are wrong! The difference is that good labour may earn you wealth, especially if you know how to manage your life correctly, but labour can not automatically deliver wealth to you. Look around you, is it everyone who is hard-working is wealthy? Do some even earn enough to have anything reasonable to save?

Wealth and financial freedom work hand in hand and it is until you have enough to the point that you are no longer worrying again about the future that you are wealthy. Can all labourers say the same? That shows they are not the same. Also, some people will continue to amass wealth for themselves while you continue to labour for them unsatisfied financially. You can see that the equation is not balanced.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Accardo on July 18, 2024, 09:49:05 PM
Labour yields wealth, but not immediately. Every strong empire was laboured for, and still in progress. People labor to generate wealth. Labour is the process of organizing raw materials being brought together to create what people need. Every country labour to mine their mineral resources, refine, and export them to other nations. All the processes required for wealth is labor, both manual or automated. Surprisingly, some responses still count all labour as manual and sidelined the meaning of labour for automated machines and human resources needed to operate the machine. Just because automation appear easy, doesn't disqualify it as a means to labor.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Rockstarguy on July 18, 2024, 10:17:25 PM
I think it's just a matter of perspective. It depends on how you look at it and who your "employer" is, but to me, Labor is not wealth.
Let's say you are a donkey, camel or horse? Would you say labor is wealth? I don't think so. Those right there are the hardest working animals in human communities. Even the slaves and casual workers in most Third World countries would disagree with you.
It is not all labour that can bring wealth, but we gain wealth by labouring because nothing good comes easily. It is not all labour that can make wealth because their are people who struggle day and night but still they still find life very difficult. Becoming wealthy is not just a thing of labour,  I think to be wealthy is beyond just labour, their are some other things that needs to be involved.

I just know it is not every labour that can make one to become wealthy and their is no wealth without labour, you need to pay some price which you really need to labour.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: betswift on July 19, 2024, 08:34:03 AM
I would agree on the point that labour as a whole brings wealth, but only to those who know where to put their skills to it. There is also a big factor of luck and coincidences, small and big, which shape our path to our goals, making it easier or harder, yet, human determination would always prevail in my book, sooner or later.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: GeorgeJohn on July 19, 2024, 12:13:26 PM
Wealth can be subjective and does not always mean money, and then some ways to get a wealth can only be simple or even not an efficient one. In addition to what I said first, health is also wealth and how can we be able to earn money if we are sick and weak because we neglect the basic and important things such as eating?
I concur in some of the phrase of your suggestion you use, but their is one thing I want you to understand, the primary foundation of wealthy is money including wealth, you can be say or be directed as a someone who has a wealth through what you obtain or achieve with your money, you can't be poor and you been classified as a someone who is wealthy, the breakdown scenario of someone who has wealth is someone who is financially boyaunt, any other one is a complement of mere statement,  because as someone who has a wealth their most be indicator or evidence to render that your are wealthy.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Marvell1 on July 19, 2024, 01:24:42 PM
Wealth can be subjective and does not always mean money, and then some ways to get a wealth can only be simple or even not an efficient one. In addition to what I said first, health is also wealth and how can we be able to earn money if we are sick and weak because we neglect the basic and important things such as eating?
I concur in some of the phrase of your suggestion you use, but their is one thing I want you to understand, the primary foundation of wealthy is money including wealth, you can be say or be directed as a someone who has a wealth through what you obtain or achieve with your money, you can't be poor and you been classified as a someone who is wealthy, the breakdown scenario of someone who has wealth is someone who is financially boyaunt, any other one is a complement of mere statement,  because as someone who has a wealth their most be indicator or evidence to render that your are wealthy.

I also disagree when many people say they are rich but they are rich in health, rich in love...That's not true, once we talk about wealth it needs to be related to money and lots of it, money is the foundation of wealth and if we don't have money then we are not rich at all.

In addition, many people believe that money cannot buy health and I do not agree with this. If we don't have money to pay for good things for ourselves such as spending money on clean food, spending money on regular health checks, or even spending money on medical treatment...If we don't have money for those things, how can we get and maintain our health? Healthy people are not necessarily rich, but rich people will certainly have ways to maintain their health.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: GeorgeJohn on July 19, 2024, 01:33:29 PM
I also disagree when many people say they are rich but they are rich in health, rich in love...That's not true, once we talk about wealth it needs to be related to money and lots of it, money is the foundation of wealth and if we don't have money then we are not rich at all.
some people does not know that the money is a foundation of wealth from my analysis and observation money is the beginning of everything that to make you to be influential in the society so if you have money you will have different companies different things that will bring money around you and those things that is around you are called wealth, well people who doesn't understand it will define wealth  in another ways and riches in another ways.for money anybody who has money is entitled to have wealth, because theirs some people who has money but they don't have wealth.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: khiholangkang on July 19, 2024, 06:14:44 PM
Of course labor is wealth, which is where we have the power to do things and cannot be controlled according to our wishes, if we work very well and get better, our work will make a lot of money and can be a real source of wealth that you can get from your work.

Instead of people who don't work, they don't have any wealth at all, even if you look at rich people also still work to maintain their wealth and increase their wealth in their old age, so work is a wealth. IMO


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: AYOBA on July 19, 2024, 07:21:58 PM
Labour for me is human productive effort towards achieving set target.To answer the question, labour may be wealth, in the sense that when others labour while you fold your harms and watch from where will the wealth come from? Wealth creation cannot be separated from human effort  both mental and  physical.
Yes off course labour can be wealthy, and be wealthy because I can even say that even those that We’re seeing wealthy already a lot of them are generated through the labour. Honestly the labour work with their own harms to generate the wealth and the even the reason why some people are complain now that they didn’t wealthy, imagine we’re expected to become wealthy and you don’t want to make the uses of your body how can you reach the target.

The little amount of money we make today it will be the one make us becoming something tomorrow, some don’t understand that the only thing they want may they just turn to a wealthy person with in a few days an everything in this life is a gradually process.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Raflesia on July 19, 2024, 09:37:49 PM

I also disagree when many people say they are rich but they are rich in health, rich in love...That's not true, once we talk about wealth it needs to be related to money and lots of it, money is the foundation of wealth and if we don't have money then we are not rich at all.

That's just a parable in a connotation of happiness because when talking about happiness of course there will be several options that are seen such as health or tranquility etc. but when talking about wealth for now it seems that everyone's benchmark will still remain the same where those who do have a lot of money, abundant assets and businesses that will never run out for several generations have become the initial benchmark when someone is considered a rich person.

It cannot be denied that this stigma will continue to exist because after all, even though we are happy or sufficient with the current economy and we remain healthy and do not have a history of any disease, it will not be said to be someone who is rich if we do not have money and assets that support one of the traits of being rich for now because the benchmark remains in money .
 


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Marvell1 on July 20, 2024, 10:30:17 AM
I also disagree when many people say they are rich but they are rich in health, rich in love...That's not true, once we talk about wealth it needs to be related to money and lots of it, money is the foundation of wealth and if we don't have money then we are not rich at all.
some people does not know that the money is a foundation of wealth from my analysis and observation money is the beginning of everything that to make you to be influential in the society so if you have money you will have different companies different things that will bring money around you and those things that is around you are called wealth, well people who doesn't understand it will define wealth  in another ways and riches in another ways.for money anybody who has money is entitled to have wealth, because theirs some people who has money but they don't have wealth.

I think they know that the foundation of wealth is money, but maybe they are just trying to console themselves that they are not rich but at least they are emotional and honest people. Because just by looking at what is happening today, we will easily recognize who is classified as billionaires, millionaires...Everything is based on the amount of money and assets they hold, no one relies on whether they have a happy family or not, live happily or not...to judge whether they are a billionaire or millionaire.
Yes, money is the beginning of everything in our life.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: CK485 on July 20, 2024, 12:14:42 PM

I think they know that the foundation of wealth is money, but maybe they are just trying to console themselves that they are not rich but at least they are emotional and honest people. Because just by looking at what is happening today, we will easily recognize who is classified as billionaires, millionaires...Everything is based on the amount of money and assets they hold, no one relies on whether they have a happy family or not, live happily or not...to judge whether they are a billionaire or millionaire.
Yes, money is the beginning of everything in our life.

actually labor is the real source of wealth, I think the harder we work the more results we will get, especially being able to make money and that is an achievement in wealth, indeed now money has become one of the structures that is very strong and important and that can provides a different point of view. It depends on the people who judge it, and you can see that the lives of those who have a lot of money look happy, despite the fact whether the sentiment is happy or not, you will reach a point where you will think that money is everything but everything requires money and indeed that's a fact that needs to be lived.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Jody.Drummer on July 20, 2024, 12:38:03 PM
I think this is a general thing that probably everyone knows, like the saying that there will be no change if there is no action, all success is always achieved by starting with an experiment, everyone gets money to pay for all their life needs which is generated from the work they do. do. Although on the other hand I understand that not all movements or actions can always become wealth, but all success in financial freedom always starts with intention and action, meaning that if you just sit around without doing anything that can be useful for your life in the future then of course you won't get anything.

This means, of course, that work is something that humans do to achieve the wealth targets they desire, but sometimes there are always some people who have very high dreams of becoming successful people in the future but they don't take any action at the moment. That means it is nothing more than just a fantasy, because a dream without being based on action is nothing more than a hallucination.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: bitgolden on July 20, 2024, 08:44:52 PM
I think it's just a matter of perspective. It depends on how you look at it and who your "employer" is, but to me, Labor is not wealth.
Let's say you are a donkey, camel or horse? Would you say labor is wealth? I don't think so. Those right there are the hardest working animals in human communities. Even the slaves and casual workers in most Third World countries would disagree with you.
It is not all labour that can bring wealth, but we gain wealth by labouring because nothing good comes easily. It is not all labour that can make wealth because their are people who struggle day and night but still they still find life very difficult. Becoming wealthy is not just a thing of labour,  I think to be wealthy is beyond just labour, their are some other things that needs to be involved.

I just know it is not every labour that can make one to become wealthy and their is no wealth without labour, you need to pay some price which you really need to labour.
Yeah true, if we want to get rich and have a good life, we need to make sure that we are dealing with hard work, and while that doesn't mean that hard work could be making us rich, because there are a lot hard workers who can't, it's a required thing to get rich.

Another thing to get rich is to have rich parents, if you look at all the rich people in the world, you will see that they all had fathers and mothers that were rich, so it is not like they got rich out of nowhere. Don't get me wrong, I am talking about having parents that have a few million dollars, turn into a kid with a billion dollars, and not all kids with millionaire parents ended up being billionaires neither but all billionaires had millionaire parents.

There are few exceptions of course, but if you look at 1000+ billionaires of the world, 90%+ of them had parents that were influential and rich, which should be the point that would help you out understand why we can't be as rich as them, ever. The end result is that we could just hope to be the parents, we could turn our life into something much better by having a million dollars if we ever can, by hard work, and if achieve that, we would hope our kids won't ruin it instead.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Issa56 on July 20, 2024, 09:36:21 PM
Of course labor is wealth, which is where we have the power to do things and cannot be controlled according to our wishes, if we work very well and get better, our work will make a lot of money and can be a real source of wealth that you can get from your work.

Instead of people who don't work, they don't have any wealth at all, even if you look at rich people also still work to maintain their wealth and increase their wealth in their old age, so work is a wealth. IMO

Work is vital, but it may not guarantee riches, there are those who have put in countless hours and still have made no money. The world is changing, and as more people become tech-savvy, labor becomes less relevant. If labor becomes less valuable, there is less reason to work too hard. A while back, I used to wonder if many people would have gotten wealthy if earning money only required hard work. You simply need to be wise to choose wisely when deciding what role you want to play in life as a source of money so that your efforts are not in vain. The it is better to have a source of income so if their is no plan yet it is better to get a job it is better than seating without doing anything. If you look at people that are rich, they did not make their money from labor, I will strongly disagree that you will make money from labor. It is better for people to clear their mentality on how to make money.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Mr.right85 on July 20, 2024, 11:06:00 PM
when you can buy a machine or a automated system.. non-labour can produce returns which if those returns are profitable then that profit can accumulate wealth
Your perspectives on confusing issues like this often sits well with me. I needed someone to say that and reading your comment, you didn’t disappoint me. That’s why I agree with the context of labour not being entirely linked with wealth creation. Maybe if does start with it but, it doesn’t always end with it.
Wealth creation has a lot to do with how exposed you are mentally and what ideas your able to come up with, bring it into its physical equivalent to not only make 100% of your effort but from others as well.
While these persons might be working really hard, you end up doing nothing but, your the one amassing the most wealth.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: khiholangkang on July 21, 2024, 06:45:15 PM
Of course labor is wealth, which is where we have the power to do things and cannot be controlled according to our wishes, if we work very well and get better, our work will make a lot of money and can be a real source of wealth that you can get from your work.

Instead of people who don't work, they don't have any wealth at all, even if you look at rich people also still work to maintain their wealth and increase their wealth in their old age, so work is a wealth. IMO

Work is vital, but it may not guarantee riches, there are those who have put in countless hours and still have made no money. The world is changing, and as more people become tech-savvy, labor becomes less relevant. If labor becomes less valuable, there is less reason to work too hard. A while back, I used to wonder if many people would have gotten wealthy if earning money only required hard work. You simply need to be wise to choose wisely when deciding what role you want to play in life as a source of money so that your efforts are not in vain. The it is better to have a source of income so if their is no plan yet it is better to get a job it is better than seating without doing anything. If you look at people that are rich, they did not make their money from labor, I will strongly disagree that you will make money from labor. It is better for people to clear their mentality on how to make money.
In fact, rich people are much more hardworking than what we generally understand about hard work, especially if you start from a small person, of course hard work needs to be done, both in increasing your income and increasing your ability both in thinking, working and doing business, being something core capital, a combination of many things that need to be done to build wealth, and hard work is one of the steps to be able to achieve goals before smart work.

The problem why many hard workers can't get more wealth as described in your argument is because they don't have the mindset and goals to really strive to be better than other humans.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: dezoel on July 22, 2024, 03:12:31 PM
Labor is a single type of resource, not wealth, as wealth is the situation where you have abundant resources. You're not yet wealthy if you have only labor (yourself, your energy). There are many types of labor, such as skilled and unskilled, etc., so it will differ in value as a resource.
It also matters where you are working and what you are working on. For example, a labourer or a mason works hard to build a house, but that house is not his own, he builds it for others, and he is given a small amount of his labour, even though he has done the work very hard, but the hard work he did it for someone else and took a small wage himself.

Similarly, a person who is in a big post in a big company, but is not the owner of that company, is giving all his hard work and time to that company and the benefit is getting more to the owner and only he is getting a salary every month. These people can never become rich, no matter how hard they work, whose ideology is to earn two breads a day. So, you must be hardworking as well as wise and willing to move on and show that by doing something.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Yucky on July 22, 2024, 05:13:38 PM
Labour for me is human productive effort towards achieving set target.To answer the question, labour may be wealth, in the sense that when others labour while you fold your harms and watch from where will the wealth come from? Wealth creation cannot be separated from human effort  both mental and  physical.
wealth doesn't just come without any exertion of effort or what you're referring to as labour, the compensation you get for exerting a particular effort in a project is what's responsible for the wealth you've accumulated. It might be mental, physical, or just merely expressive. As long as your ascertion of labour yields a positive results as helps solve a given problem, you've succeeded in creating wealth through labour.

It's worthy of note that it's not just anyhow labour that yields good results, some unfruitful labour doesn't yiekd any positive result regardless of the effort being exerted because it didn't help solve any problem at all. For your labour to yield profit that create wealth, it has to be a positive one that helps solve life's problems.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Emitdama on July 26, 2024, 02:56:41 AM
Labour for me is human productive effort towards achieving set target.To answer the question, labour may be wealth, in the sense that when others labour while you fold your harms and watch from where will the wealth come from? Wealth creation cannot be separated from human effort  both mental and  physical.
No, you are wrong! The difference is that good labour may earn you wealth, especially if you know how to manage your life correctly, but labour can not automatically deliver wealth to you. Look around you, is it everyone who is hard-working is wealthy? Do some even earn enough to have anything reasonable to save?

Wealth and financial freedom work hand in hand and it is until you have enough to the point that you are no longer worrying again about the future that you are wealthy. Can all labourers say the same? That shows they are not the same. Also, some people will continue to amass wealth for themselves while you continue to labour for them unsatisfied financially. You can see that the equation is not balanced.
I would assume that even if it requires a lot of people to labour with you, you still have to labour. When people talk about "labour", most think about like factory workers or something, but in reality even Elon Musk or Jeff Bezos provided labour for their company, even if all you do is go out and find some investors, while others work for you, even if you make some network, or find banks, or sign on some new documents, you do not have to just go out to the factor floor and do something, a boss, an owner is still providing some labour for the company, they are not at home sleeping while others are working.

This means that yeah in a way that labour would be required to make money. That doesn't mean that everyone who works end up being rich, as we all can see that workers may stay poor, it just means that people who work may not be rich but people who do not work will definitely stay poor.

This is why if you want to get rich, you have to keep on working for it, and if you do that then you are going to end up with something good. That way, when you see his "if you just watch others work, where will money come" situation makes sense, it's true that if you just watch others and do nothing, you won't get richer.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: wxa7115 on July 26, 2024, 05:02:45 AM
Labor is a single type of resource, not wealth, as wealth is the situation where you have abundant resources. You're not yet wealthy if you have only labor (yourself, your energy). There are many types of labor, such as skilled and unskilled, etc., so it will differ in value as a resource.
It also matters where you are working and what you are working on. For example, a labourer or a mason works hard to build a house, but that house is not his own, he builds it for others, and he is given a small amount of his labour, even though he has done the work very hard, but the hard work he did it for someone else and took a small wage himself.

Similarly, a person who is in a big post in a big company, but is not the owner of that company, is giving all his hard work and time to that company and the benefit is getting more to the owner and only he is getting a salary every month. These people can never become rich, no matter how hard they work, whose ideology is to earn two breads a day. So, you must be hardworking as well as wise and willing to move on and show that by doing something.
Very often people in general are given the advice to work as hard as possible and that is what they do in order to get their income, however it is also important to think about how to do this way more effectively, as if you can do more with less and do so faster, then the rate at which you will accumulate wealth will increase as well.

However unlike hard work, people hardly receive that advice, which is why when they find themselves in a difficult economic situation, they only think about working harder and not about producing the most wealth with their current efforts.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: betswift on July 26, 2024, 07:37:09 AM
Labor is a single type of resource, not wealth, as wealth is the situation where you have abundant resources. You're not yet wealthy if you have only labor (yourself, your energy). There are many types of labor, such as skilled and unskilled, etc., so it will differ in value as a resource.
It also matters where you are working and what you are working on. For example, a labourer or a mason works hard to build a house, but that house is not his own, he builds it for others, and he is given a small amount of his labour, even though he has done the work very hard, but the hard work he did it for someone else and took a small wage himself.

Similarly, a person who is in a big post in a big company, but is not the owner of that company, is giving all his hard work and time to that company and the benefit is getting more to the owner and only he is getting a salary every month. These people can never become rich, no matter how hard they work, whose ideology is to earn two breads a day. So, you must be hardworking as well as wise and willing to move on and show that by doing something.
Very often people in general are given the advice to work as hard as possible and that is what they do in order to get their income, however it is also important to think about how to do this way more effectively, as if you can do more with less and do so faster, then the rate at which you will accumulate wealth will increase as well.

However unlike hard work, people hardly receive that advice, which is why when they find themselves in a difficult economic situation, they only think about working harder and not about producing the most wealth with their current efforts.

The saying "work smarter, not harder" is here for a reason, but I agree. Most people are lost in the grind and don't see the big picture even for their own situation, not to mention the situations of others lost in it.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Farma on July 26, 2024, 09:08:48 AM
Labour for me is human productive effort towards achieving set target.To answer the question, labour may be wealth, in the sense that when others labour while you fold your harms and watch from where will the wealth come from? Wealth creation cannot be separated from human effort  both mental and  physical.
Yes off course labour can be wealthy, and be wealthy because I can even say that even those that We’re seeing wealthy already a lot of them are generated through the labour. Honestly the labour work with their own harms to generate the wealth and the even the reason why some people are complain now that they didn’t wealthy, imagine we’re expected to become wealthy and you don’t want to make the uses of your body how can you reach the target.

The little amount of money we make today it will be the one make us becoming something tomorrow, some don’t understand that the only thing they want may they just turn to a wealthy person with in a few days an everything in this life is a gradually process.
It is true that anyone can become rich when they have done hard work but only some people are able to do hard work and also they are not easy to give up with all the unpleasant things faced in working but there are some people who like to complain about the work they do of course it will be difficult for them to be able to become rich with the work they do.

Surviving with a small income in a job is indeed not an easy thing, but when they really believe that what they are doing will be able to get good results, of course one day they will be able to achieve success from the work they do, yes, there are some people who will not be able to survive with a small income for various reasons, so if they can be patient with every process they have to go through, of course they will also be able to get a lot of results from the work they do.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: topbitcoin on July 26, 2024, 03:26:44 PM
Labor is a single type of resource, not wealth, as wealth is the situation where you have abundant resources. You're not yet wealthy if you have only labor (yourself, your energy). There are many types of labor, such as skilled and unskilled, etc., so it will differ in value as a resource.
It also matters where you are working and what you are working on. For example, a labourer or a mason works hard to build a house, but that house is not his own, he builds it for others, and he is given a small amount of his labour, even though he has done the work very hard, but the hard work he did it for someone else and took a small wage himself.

Similarly, a person who is in a big post in a big company, but is not the owner of that company, is giving all his hard work and time to that company and the benefit is getting more to the owner and only he is getting a salary every month. These people can never become rich, no matter how hard they work, whose ideology is to earn two breads a day. So, you must be hardworking as well as wise and willing to move on and show that by doing something.
I think he was explaining the definition of labor, not the energy that is in the worker, or what he does to work hard to earn his own wages.

I agree that labor is not wealth, but resources that exist in humans, which have stages in choosing labor, as said that there are skilled and unskilled.
But if you look broadly again when an area has a lot of labor resources that have competence or are skilled in their fields, then it can be said that it is a wealth that can be utilized to build the area much better.

but if you see that your explanation of labor is like the physical strength to work, whereas I think the orientation can be much broader than just about that.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Adiljutt156 on July 26, 2024, 07:57:31 PM
Labour for me is human productive effort towards achieving set target.To answer the question, labour may be wealth, in the sense that when others labour while you fold your harms and watch from where will the wealth come from? Wealth creation cannot be separated from human effort  both mental and  physical.
Yes off course labour can be wealthy, and be wealthy because I can even say that even those that We’re seeing wealthy already a lot of them are generated through the labour. Honestly the labour work with their own harms to generate the wealth and the even the reason why some people are complain now that they didn’t wealthy, imagine we’re expected to become wealthy and you don’t want to make the uses of your body how can you reach the target.

The little amount of money we make today it will be the one make us becoming something tomorrow, some don’t understand that the only thing they want may they just turn to a wealthy person with in a few days an everything in this life is a gradually process.
It is true that anyone can become rich when they have done hard work but only some people are able to do hard work and also they are not easy to give up with all the unpleasant things faced in working but there are some people who like to complain about the work they do of course it will be difficult for them to be able to become rich with the work they do.

Surviving with a small income in a job is indeed not an easy thing, but when they really believe that what they are doing will be able to get good results, of course one day they will be able to achieve success from the work they do, yes, there are some people who will not be able to survive with a small income for various reasons, so if they can be patient with every process they have to go through, of course they will also be able to get a lot of results from the work they do.
By labour , one cannot get success in life because smart work is important to get success. Mostly people can't get success in life by only labour because today is modern time and smart work is important and mostly persons which are earning money,they are earning due to hard work. Poor people work on wrong side but rich people knows  where to work . And one should also focus on relationships because relationships are also important for life and they are true wealth.
Relationships give happiness to the people and that is true wealth. If a person do hard work and he is basically from golf countries,he will be rich in his country even he is security guard in the European country.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Wakate on July 26, 2024, 08:18:21 PM
Labour for me is human productive effort towards achieving set target.To answer the question, labour may be wealth, in the sense that when others labour while you fold your harms and watch from where will the wealth come from? Wealth creation cannot be separated from human effort  both mental and  physical.
I think you have to throw more light on the context of the labour you are talking about. It is good we understand ourselves and make sure we do what actually will make us rich not just doing some random jobs thinking that we are wealthy or soon going to be wealthy. Whatever thing we are doing, it is good we up before us and check how many people have been profitable doing the same thing we are anticipating to going fully in. Asking questions and searching for the right answer would always guide us on what we are supposed to do and what we don't have to do thinking we are going to be okay in time coming. Labour is a way we put our effort into something to have a finally results which we are the later paid for our services.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: EarnOnVictor on July 31, 2024, 07:20:16 AM
Labour for me is human productive effort towards achieving set target.To answer the question, labour may be wealth, in the sense that when others labour while you fold your harms and watch from where will the wealth come from? Wealth creation cannot be separated from human effort  both mental and  physical.
No, you are wrong! The difference is that good labour may earn you wealth, especially if you know how to manage your life correctly, but labour can not automatically deliver wealth to you. Look around you, is it everyone who is hard-working is wealthy? Do some even earn enough to have anything reasonable to save?

Wealth and financial freedom work hand in hand and it is until you have enough to the point that you are no longer worrying again about the future that you are wealthy. Can all labourers say the same? That shows they are not the same. Also, some people will continue to amass wealth for themselves while you continue to labour for them unsatisfied financially. You can see that the equation is not balanced.
I would assume that even if it requires a lot of people to labour with you, you still have to labour. When people talk about "labour", most think about like factory workers or something, but in reality even Elon Musk or Jeff Bezos provided labour for their company, even if all you do is go out and find some investors, while others work for you, even if you make some network, or find banks, or sign on some new documents, you do not have to just go out to the factor floor and do something, a boss, an owner is still providing some labour for the company, they are not at home sleeping while others are working.
The issue I have with most users replying to my posts is that they do not read to understand, what you are dragging has already been covered in the first paragraph if you can read it insightfully. No one is saying you should not labour, and of course, if you did not labour, how do you earn? But I was saying that labour will never "guarantee" wealth as there are successful and unsuccessful labour, while smart work crowns it all to make wealth.

Take the forum as the simplest example, some users put in their best efforts but never earn as much as the merits earned by many who did lower than them. Didn't they labour more with less result and didn't those favoured laboured less but with a better result? This is practical and is the same in real life, it is not about how smart, intelligent or hard-working you are, you may put all your efforts into it and still achieve a little in your entire life. This can only mean that it's not all labour that brings wealth, but the smart and productive ones may bring wealth. And how labour is being productive is left to you (labour), your fate and luck, not the labour alone.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Jatiluhung on July 31, 2024, 08:14:10 AM
Labour for me is human productive effort towards achieving set target.To answer the question, labour may be wealth, in the sense that when others labour while you fold your harms and watch from where will the wealth come from? Wealth creation cannot be separated from human effort  both mental and  physical.
Of course, friends, labor is wealth. Because without labor nothing will work. Because to achieve success requires hard work and remember, even when we become rich and we have a large company that requires many employees, that's when we will realize that labor is very important and is one of the assets that must also be owned by us. a country and a large company. Even individuals must be grateful when they are still able to work hard. Because he can change his life if he tries harder and works harder.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Dzwaafu11 on July 31, 2024, 11:23:18 AM
Labour for me is human productive effort towards achieving set target.To answer the question, labour may be wealth, in the sense that when others labour while you fold your harms and watch from where will the wealth come from? Wealth creation cannot be separated from human effort  both mental and  physical.

You asked a question, and you answered it yourself again. But let me drop my own insight on it, even though others have already given you an answer. There is no way wealth will come without effort, and labour means effort you put in to get something, so for you to be wealthy, you need to put effort in before it happens because you can’t sit down in one place and have wealth come; you must work for it before you get it. So hard work pays off one day. However, you are right, there is no way wealth can be separated from effort. Even if it’s going to come illegally, effort must be made in everything we do. 


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Kemarit on July 31, 2024, 11:29:02 AM
Labour for me is human productive effort towards achieving set target.To answer the question, labour may be wealth, in the sense that when others labour while you fold your harms and watch from where will the wealth come from? Wealth creation cannot be separated from human effort  both mental and  physical.

Of course, everything that you work hard for is considered wealth. Although it might not be the main source for you to become wealthy as it is a very different thing. And as you can see, no millionaires or billionaires have work in their life in some sort of labor task. It's either they invented something like for billionaires and then the millionaires work their money for them.

Definitely there is something that humans needs, specially the mental aspect of it. Again we can go back to this self made billionaires and millionaires and they are a visionary. As compare to those who work very hard for the last 20-30 years and yet they didn't earn anything substantially. So in any case, if we wanted to get rich, then perhaps when we are young we can work for some time of labor and then we should evolved if we have enough money and then venture into like a business or entrepreneurship.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Chilwell on July 31, 2024, 12:56:18 PM
Labour for me is human productive effort towards achieving set target.To answer the question, labour may be wealth, in the sense that when others labour while you fold your harms and watch from where will the wealth come from? Wealth creation cannot be separated from human effort  both mental and  physical.

Labour always aims for the positive outcome, outcome which in the sense that can solve human problems like needs and want. Labour is actually physical engagement of body to do a particular tax to earn some money to take care of some needs, so I considered labour to be wealth, even though wealth refer to having a valuable things in your own possession, and all this can not be achieved by just sitting down and fold your hand more labour need to be done before your name is written on it.

The absence of labour doesn't guarantee wealth, many people aim in getting rich but doesn't want to work, nothing comes easy some effort need to be done even small, and we have to start from somewhere to get to our own plan.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Peanutswar on July 31, 2024, 01:52:56 PM
Labour for me is human productive effort towards achieving set target.To answer the question, labour may be wealth, in the sense that when others labour while you fold your harms and watch from where will the wealth come from? Wealth creation cannot be separated from human effort  both mental and  physical.

With these recent days we know how hard to have a source of income so having this could be a blessing to others, we all come from the one who works for other people but there's a day that we are the one who becomes the head and people work for us, if you have tons of labor that you value for sure they will value your company or business too because people now would like to seek a job that helps them and treat them right but of course with proper benefits and pay. People stay because of the environment though others aim for the money but others value the relationship.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: TheUltraElite on July 31, 2024, 02:03:11 PM
The problem why many hard workers can't get more wealth as described in your argument is because they don't have the mindset and goals to really strive to be better than other humans.
Smart work is often quoted in this context, often these workers are not that smart to be able to execute that. They are often happy with smaller jobs that is less worthy of their work. However they are not always going to find jobs that are well paying and sometimes they have to make ends meet with a smaller education degree and more of physical work.

Striving for better positions is good but there is a limit to how much one can struggle to reach up. They have to stop at one point due to different other constraints in life.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Roseline492 on July 31, 2024, 02:09:50 PM
By labour , one cannot get success in life because smart work is important to get success. Mostly people can't get success in life by only labour because today is modern time and smart work is important and mostly persons which are earning money,they are earning due to hard work. Poor people work on wrong side but rich people knows  where to work . And one should also focus on relationships because relationships are also important for life and they are true wealth.

I think you are misunderstanding the whole idea about Labour, I don't think that labour only apply to people who suffers to make money however Labour is a very important thing that almost every wealthy persons go through labour before they become rich, so actually your Labour determines your achievement in the future, so anybody who says that Labour cannot guarantee success in the future is actually making a mistake because labour doesn't only involves those who are struggling is also inclusive to people who are already wealthy because is through hardwork and labour they would be able keep thing running on the businesses so actually the only thing that doesn't involve labour is only when someone is on his comfort zone eating whatever thing they like without doing anything.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: SOKO-DEKE on July 31, 2024, 03:51:47 PM
Yes off course labour can be wealthy, and be wealthy because I can even say that even those that We’re seeing wealthy already a lot of them are generated through the labour. Honestly the labour work with their own harms to generate the wealth and the even the reason why some people are complain now that they didn’t wealthy, imagine we’re expected to become wealthy and you don’t want to make the uses of your body how can you reach the target.



I don't think labour alone can make people wealthy. If labour could truly make people wealthy, many people who engage in hard labor like bricklayers or carpenters would be wealthy. However, despite their hard work, these set of  people are often be among the poor. If you want to be wealthy, it is not just all about labour, it's about smartness. It's not necessary to be involved in hard labour to accumulate wealth. Look at many of the richest people in the world they are not engaged in labour work but use various means, such as robots or others means, to manage their businesses.so I view labour as just means of survival.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: khiholangkang on July 31, 2024, 05:21:34 PM
The problem why many hard workers can't get more wealth as described in your argument is because they don't have the mindset and goals to really strive to be better than other humans.
Smart work is often quoted in this context, often these workers are not that smart to be able to execute that. They are often happy with smaller jobs that is less worthy of their work. However they are not always going to find jobs that are well paying and sometimes they have to make ends meet with a smaller education degree and more of physical work.

Striving for better positions is good but there is a limit to how much one can struggle to reach up. They have to stop at one point due to different other constraints in life.

Maybe that's true, that kind of thing should be considered but the thing to remember is that maybe not everyone has the same thoughts, things like this start from how he was educated in the past, I think his education at school and education by his parents when he grew up is something very fundamental in addressing the subject of hard work and hard work, it will create a character and mentality that comes from the knowledge he gets, it will change one's motivation in the journey of life.

Hard work and smart work is an attitude and a mindset.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Hatchy on July 31, 2024, 05:52:12 PM
Labour for me is human productive effort towards achieving set target.To answer the question, labour may be wealth, in the sense that when others labour while you fold your harms and watch from where will the wealth come from? Wealth creation cannot be separated from human effort  both mental and  physical.

Why won't labor be wealth? Labor bears fruit. You don't expect those wealthy and rick folks out there to have not labored. Yes some got their wealth from inheritance or some other things aside labor, but then you still have to labor to remain wealthy.  All human efforts at the end of the day is what yield wealth. Ifa man doesn't labor then he shouldn't eat. That's even a popular verse in the Christian Bible. You must also remember to work smart not hard because not all hard labor would yield good results. Some might just break you or worst even kill.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: ndutndut on July 31, 2024, 06:03:31 PM
Labour for me is human productive effort towards achieving set target.To answer the question, labour may be wealth, in the sense that when others labour while you fold your harms and watch from where will the wealth come from? Wealth creation cannot be separated from human effort  both mental and  physical.
Of course, friends, labor is wealth. Because without labor nothing will work. Because to achieve success requires hard work and remember, even when we become rich and we have a large company that requires many employees, that's when we will realize that labor is very important and is one of the assets that must also be owned by us. a country and a large company. Even individuals must be grateful when they are still able to work hard. Because he can change his life if he tries harder and works harder.
More precisely, hard work and knowledge. Because just working hard without knowledge will also be in vain because it will not be able to create real wealth. What I mean is this, how many people work hard but get wealth but can only meet their daily needs. This is because they work hard but do not have adequate knowledge or skills, these two things must go hand in hand to achieve success.

So it can be concluded that hard work will indeed create wealth but not all hard work can create wealth such as construction workers, household assistants, employees and others. But what is clear is that hard work is one of the factors that makes us get a lot of wealth, so hard work is one way to achieve wealth.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Samlucky O on July 31, 2024, 06:55:53 PM
Labour for me is human productive effort towards achieving set target.To answer the question, labour may be wealth, in the sense that when others labour while you fold your harms and watch from where will the wealth come from? Wealth creation cannot be separated from human effort  both mental and  physical.
The best description I can describe for now about your Topic "is labour Wealth"? is that wealth is a product of labour in the right direction. Wealth can be created when you invest wisely in a right direction not just investing wrongly and expect a thangible thing in return. Having Focus, being Consistence and productive, and being creative to improve your skill on daily basis in what you do. diversification is also important when you make more money you invest more in other businesses instead of saving alot of fund disposable and invest less.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Yatsan on August 01, 2024, 03:26:37 AM
Labour for me is human productive effort towards achieving set target.To answer the question, labour may be wealth, in the sense that when others labour while you fold your harms and watch from where will the wealth come from? Wealth creation cannot be separated from human effort  both mental and  physical.

Of course! for me labor is wealth, labor is the very foundation of upon which economic wealth is built. In addition, our current society is rewarding labor very fairly, it's also helps to maintain economic stability and long-term growth. Salute also to our entrepreneurs who's taking the risk. They did combine labor with capital and venture to unexplored areas.  Their commitment to take the risks is what fuels to create new opportunities and wealth through generations. With their skill to add value on to something, and that value belongs to the person who laboured it. This cycle is what make the economic wealthier and more source of income for labourers.

Of course, friends, labor is wealth. Because without labor nothing will work. Because to achieve success requires hard work and remember, even when we become rich and we have a large company that requires many employees, that's when we will realize that labor is very important and is one of the assets that must also be owned by us. a country and a large company. Even individuals must be grateful when they are still able to work hard. Because he can change his life if he tries harder and works harder.


Working hard is important, but the work only counts if it's doing something valuable or achieve the correct result, you shouldn't get paid by just exhausting yourself, but laborers should get paid for results because at the end of the day the food you put in the table is truly the meaning of wealth.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Yeesha on August 01, 2024, 11:07:25 AM
Labour is not wealth but it can serve as a way for you to amass wealth, labour is a feat that someone need to apply to accomplish some wish in life, It is a believe that you can become wealthy through labour, but just because you are doing hard labour does not mean that you are going to become wealthy, you just have to be productive to have a good, great and we'll planned budget for you to be wealthy, it is attached to humans mentally, physically and emotionally.

It is substantial to work very hard but you have to engage yourself in a labour that will pay you a lot and you will not be exhausted, work little and don't exhaust yourself in the name of labour so that you should not end up using what you have for treatment.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Scarlett_23 on August 01, 2024, 11:24:46 AM
Hard work is one of the ways to earn wealth. Nothing happened in the world without hard work.  However, it is different for those who are inherited millionaires or billionaires. But in this case, if he is not hardworking and qualified, then he will not be able to retain the wealth he inherited.  Because as the saying goes, the king's balls run out if he sits down.  Now come to the words of those who want to change their destiny through hard work.  Allah does not help those who do not help themselves.  The owners of the biggest companies in the world today are not the result of their hard work.  Maybe they didn't achieve it at all and have gone uphill to become millionaires or billionaires.  However, it is not the wealth that can be acquired by working hard all the time.  It should be accompanied by intelligence and skill.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Jatiluhung on August 01, 2024, 11:47:16 AM
Of course, friends, labor is wealth. Because without labor nothing will work. Because to achieve success requires hard work and remember, even when we become rich and we have a large company that requires many employees, that's when we will realize that labor is very important and is one of the assets that must also be owned by us. a country and a large company. Even individuals must be grateful when they are still able to work hard. Because he can change his life if he tries harder and works harder.
More precisely, hard work and knowledge. Because just working hard without knowledge will also be in vain because it will not be able to create real wealth. What I mean is this, how many people work hard but get wealth but can only meet their daily needs. This is because they work hard but do not have adequate knowledge or skills, these two things must go hand in hand to achieve success.

So it can be concluded that hard work will indeed create wealth but not all hard work can create wealth such as construction workers, household assistants, employees and others. But what is clear is that hard work is one of the factors that makes us get a lot of wealth, so hard work is one way to achieve wealth.
You are right sir. Well, both and even many other factors are also needed to achieve success. Hard work must also be accompanied by sufficient insight or knowledge if you want to get maximum results. Knowledge is really needed so that our hard work can be more appreciated. Because without insight or knowledge we will only be able to work hard in the lower realms. But if we complement it with insight or high knowledge then we will work hard in a higher realm with high results and our work will be more appreciated. Everything is needed because they will complement each other.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Mame89 on August 01, 2024, 03:33:02 PM
Labour for me is human productive effort towards achieving set target.To answer the question, labour may be wealth, in the sense that when others labour while you fold your harms and watch from where will the wealth come from? Wealth creation cannot be separated from human effort  both mental and  physical.
If the wealth you mean is in the form of material, I think hard work alone is not enough. For example, a taxi driver, he only rents from the taxi owner, he works harder than the taxi owner. Factory workers, he has long working hours every day, and he also works hard. Construction workers also work harder than other people and many more.

This is very different from people who not only work hard, but are also smart and have skills. Those who work hard to learn the world of investment or trading. Those who work hard to learn to build their portfolio in between their time working to meet their living needs and many more. Maybe without me needing to explain, you must already know which one has a higher income.

So the point is that hard work alone is not enough to achieve wealth, but you also have to work smart. Moreover, time in a day is limited, our energy will also be limited. No matter how strong we are, there will be times when we feel weak, bored, and tired. So before that happens, hard work is not only to get money, but hard work is also to increase knowledge, skills, and abilities.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: stadus on August 01, 2024, 09:40:11 PM
Labour for me is human productive effort towards achieving set target.To answer the question, labour may be wealth, in the sense that when others labour while you fold your harms and watch from where will the wealth come from? Wealth creation cannot be separated from human effort  both mental and  physical.
Of course, friends, labor is wealth. Because without labor nothing will work. Because to achieve success requires hard work and remember, even when we become rich and we have a large company that requires many employees, that's when we will realize that labor is very important and is one of the assets that must also be owned by us. a country and a large company. Even individuals must be grateful when they are still able to work hard. Because he can change his life if he tries harder and works harder.
Labor is what makes a big company continue to improve and prosper. So for them, labor is considered wealth because without labor, their company won't reach the position they have right now. Whatever that contributes to the success and fruition of such investment or project, it will always be considered part of wealth, even labor is a big part of it.



Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: TheUltraElite on September 03, 2024, 04:11:16 PM
Maybe that's true, that kind of thing should be considered but the thing to remember is that maybe not everyone has the same thoughts, things like this start from how he was educated in the past, I think his education at school and education by his parents when he grew up is something very fundamental in addressing the subject of hard work and hard work, it will create a character and mentality that comes from the knowledge he gets, it will change one's motivation in the journey of life.
It often comes with observation on how other people work as a person is growing up. They see how one can be diplomatic and get things done quickly and thus they understand what is smart work and how to make people work under their influence.

Education level has its importance too. Being educated and using the brain to organize a task order is a skill.

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Hard work and smart work is an attitude and a mindset.
I agree, they are sometimes inherent but can be learnt over time. The person who will make a difference is the one who learns it faster and the ones who do not will stay in the same level for years, eventually get frustrated at their work.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: jaberwock on September 03, 2024, 08:09:02 PM
Maybe that's true, that kind of thing should be considered but the thing to remember is that maybe not everyone has the same thoughts, things like this start from how he was educated in the past, I think his education at school and education by his parents when he grew up is something very fundamental in addressing the subject of hard work and hard work, it will create a character and mentality that comes from the knowledge he gets, it will change one's motivation in the journey of life.
It often comes with observation on how other people work as a person is growing up. They see how one can be diplomatic and get things done quickly and thus they understand what is smart work and how to make people work under their influence.

Education level has its importance too. Being educated and using the brain to organize a task order is a skill.
There is really no logic in being lazy, I understand that it could be genetic thing but that doesn't mean that it will be something you have to stay with that forever, you can learn to get more hard worker and you can get better at it with time. That is something that not many people understand and they just say they are lazy and get away with it.

I know a few people like that, they think they are just doing their best and nothing works when in reality I keep seeing them not working at all, and I also know people who have three jobs they go to and get rich that way, which is why it's quite important to be like that. This is why we need to get better and we need to do better, we can't compare the situation to anything else. Keep working hard, get better, and do not put any excuses.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Xril2024 on September 04, 2024, 10:57:27 AM
The saying "hard work begets happiness" is true.  But it must be mixed with intelligence.  The work you want to do must be age appropriate.  But it is true that among the animals donkey is very hard working but he is not the king of the forest whereas lion is the king of the forest even though he works little.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: mamesso on September 04, 2024, 01:21:55 PM
That's right, labor is wealth. As long as you are strong or have the energy to work, you can create wealth for yourself. Energy and health greatly affect your productivity, people who do not have any skills will offer their energy to make money, but when they are sick, that is when they cannot make money. Financial management is essential to maintain the stability of wealth in the future, so create your wealth while you are still productive and after the money has accumulated in a large amount then invest the money so that you can reap the benefits when you are no longer able to work.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: khiholangkang on September 04, 2024, 07:32:55 PM
Maybe that's true, that kind of thing should be considered but the thing to remember is that maybe not everyone has the same thoughts, things like this start from how he was educated in the past, I think his education at school and education by his parents when he grew up is something very fundamental in addressing the subject of hard work and hard work, it will create a character and mentality that comes from the knowledge he gets, it will change one's motivation in the journey of life.
It often comes with observation on how other people work as a person is growing up. They see how one can be diplomatic and get things done quickly and thus they understand what is smart work and how to make people work under their influence.

Education level has its importance too. Being educated and using the brain to organize a task order is a skill.
There is really no logic in being lazy, I understand that it could be genetic thing but that doesn't mean that it will be something you have to stay with that forever, you can learn to get more hard worker and you can get better at it with time. That is something that not many people understand and they just say they are lazy and get away with it.

I know a few people like that, they think they are just doing their best and nothing works when in reality I keep seeing them not working at all, and I also know people who have three jobs they go to and get rich that way, which is why it's quite important to be like that. This is why we need to get better and we need to do better, we can't compare the situation to anything else. Keep working hard, get better, and do not put any excuses.
Indeed, sometimes a person thinks that he has done his best, but unfortunately according to himself at work even though nothing has happened that can change himself for the better, just maybe feel that he is working better than what he used to do, I also often see some successful people working crazier, more active and more diligent, even playing time and resting time are few.

Work also needs consistency in achieving goals, don't just occasionally do your best but must be continuous like a stone mason, he may not be able to break the stone with one blow but with frequent blows it will make the stone crack and succeed.
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get better, and do not put any excuses.
I think this sentence is for, don't have many reasons to be lazy, but it can also be used you have to have many reasons why you should be rich and successful. :)


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Cookdata on September 04, 2024, 08:01:48 PM
The saying "hard work begets happiness" is true.  But it must be mixed with intelligence.  The work you want to do must be age appropriate.  But it is true that among the animals donkey is very hard working but he is not the king of the forest whereas lion is the king of the forest even though he works little.

More like, there should be passion in where you work but majority of people you see today work because they want to get paid, not because they want the job. How many people are really paid in real life aside from the tech guys, the medical line and engineering. The rest are just survival and where you do such, you will be working like a donkey because the passion to do it is not there, no motivation and joy for doing it aside for the paycheck you get at the end of the day.

Back in the days, labour is for survival but the Genz has modernized it to wealth and the labour are no longer doing hard work anymore. It's more of been a creative person and be able to solve real life problem. A person with a TikTok account who is creative can make huge amount of money under some minute video than amount another person can make for his entire 30 days, this is why creativity makes the world go around you.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Issa56 on September 04, 2024, 09:50:20 PM
Labor is what makes a big company continue to improve and prosper. So for them, labor is considered wealth because without labor, their company won't reach the position they have right now. Whatever that contributes to the success and fruition of such investment or project, it will always be considered part of wealth, even labor is a big part of it.
When it comes to running a company or industry one of the things that drives the durability of that company or industry is actually labor, if not for the innovation, coming up with the idea of machine and AI operation and all this is to reduce the cost of labor because a lot of big companies now are channeling their resources in getting this heavy machinery to run their companies, and it will have effect on man labor because the moment their is no job how do they feed that is going to create a big problem but do they really care all the owners care about is incoming profits. If not that the world is not balance this people are the once making this company's with their hard work and their work is not even guaranteed because you can be sent out any moment, just that we don't have a choice a job is needed to actually sustain, if you sent out no choice than to accept it, look for another one, you can keep dwelling on what is no longer their.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: nara1892 on September 04, 2024, 10:39:17 PM
This reminds me of a proverb where success can only be achieved when you are willing to step forward, even though your actions are not accompanied by any guarantee that in the end you will succeed, but let's see that people who are now successful in achieving wealth and success in their lives are those who spend more time working or doing anything that has the potential to generate profit.

This means I agree with your opinion OP that working is a source of wealth, because there will never be results if you do nothing, and as I said above that even though there is no guarantee for us to achieve success, at least we gain knowledge and lessons from the experiences we have gained which may be useful in the future.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: batang_bitcoin on September 04, 2024, 11:42:40 PM
The saying "hard work begets happiness" is true.  But it must be mixed with intelligence. 
It really does need to be mixed with some work smart so that you won't just be doing all the hard work. But hard work is an important start for everyone who wants to make wealth. Everyone that are successful now came from being a hard worker and exerted a lot of effort going to the top but in the process, they've learned how to work very smart.

The work you want to do must be age appropriate. 
I see some child labor not just in poor areas but also in well off places. Whichever is the reason why we see these kids work for, it's painful to see them work at a young age. If this is what you mean to say.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: tottong on September 05, 2024, 03:48:04 AM
Labour for me is human productive effort towards achieving set target.To answer the question, labour may be wealth, in the sense that when others labour while you fold your harms and watch from where will the wealth come from? Wealth creation cannot be separated from human effort  both mental and  physical.

Humans have the desire to be richer and the mindset and the way they get that wealth is the result of hard work through many processes.
Rich people have a view to employing others and they always think about how to make money through the hard work of others.
Labor will remain a tool for rich people to make money and if they do not try to think more progressively they will continue to be laborers for the rest of their lives.
People are too afraid to get out of their comfort zone so they try to enjoy their mediocre work and do not think about developing their own business potential even though it is small because they are afraid of not developing and not having another job.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: el kaka22 on September 06, 2024, 08:15:42 PM
Considering there are so many lazy people in the world, we can say that people who are hard workers could end up making a lot more money these days. People who are willing to work 20 hours a day is not something we see that often. You may question why you should do that, and I agree there are people who just go to work come home and that's it, they are happy with that life and do not want more, which is totally fine, I would love a life like that too.

However, if you want more, if you want millions, then you wake up, go to work, finish work and come home, and work another 8 hours there, and sleep only 4-6 hours a day, and hope that you will get richer with either of those jobs. Doesn't mean you have to, like I said you can avoid that if you want, but it's clear that it would definitely make it a better situation for many of the people. I prefer to work as hard as possible, and try to learn stuff on my free time so I can be great in the future as well.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: alastantiger on September 06, 2024, 08:53:43 PM
The saying "hard work begets happiness" is true.  But it must be mixed with intelligence.  The work you want to do must be age appropriate.  But it is true that among the animals donkey is very hard working but he is not the king of the forest whereas lion is the king of the forest even though he works little.

Labour was wealth for those in the old generation but not for people in the AI & robots generation that can get work down very fast and get more payments than those working hard labour. House chores are now automatic and not manual with people doing it for you. You should stop thinking that hardwork is what will get you rich but you should start thinking about how you can get your work done faster to offer same service for different clients and get paid more. Hardwork bring happiness but smart work gives you freedom hence which one will you be choosing. Do you want happiness that doesn't give you any free time or you want freedom that also comes with happiness. Thinking that hard labour is what is going to make you comfortable is wrong and will only get you aging faster than others of your age that are working with tools that have been invented to make work easy.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Accardo on September 06, 2024, 09:21:18 PM
Humans have the desire to be richer and the mindset and the way they get that wealth is the result of hard work through many processes.
Rich people have a view to employing others and they always think about how to make money through the hard work of others.
Labor will remain a tool for rich people to make money and if they do not try to think more progressively they will continue to be laborers for the rest of their lives.
People are too afraid to get out of their comfort zone so they try to enjoy their mediocre work and do not think about developing their own business potential even though it is small because they are afraid of not developing and not having another job.

While the majority cannot level up to build their own businesses, don't you think that the rich also have a hand in stiffening the success journey of their employees? Businesses require capital to start up, but most workers in established platforms still get owed of their wages. How then would such an employee resign and be liable to set out a good capital to run or build a business?

Nobody is to be called out for their inefficiency to move out of their office to begin a new working experience elsewhere, the business world is quite political, and those at the top won't step down for anybody to take over. The rich or business owners also know that if things are made easier for workers their existing company may be taken down by that of their former employee's new business.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Oluwa-btc on September 06, 2024, 10:04:59 PM
Labour for me is human productive effort towards achieving set target.To answer the question, labour may be wealth, in the sense that when others labour while you fold your harms and watch from where will the wealth come from? Wealth creation cannot be separated from human effort  both mental and  physical.

Labour is wealth depending on the amount of your inputs towards achieving it, you can't make or create wealth when you foldyour hands and watch things but rather you create wealth when your efforts superceed everything,labour colours your effort indeed,And just like you have said labour is humanly effort towards a particular goal but this days it is mistaken or misinterpreted for something else because not everyone wishes to apply efforts in the aspect of life.

I'm saying this because we are in the modern age and back then people are being paid based on their efforts but this era now everything has changed and this is why we find alot of lazy personality in the society because they feel labouring in the aspect is a waste of time and effort so they'll rather look for a faster means which has led alot to technology.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Churchillvv on September 06, 2024, 10:30:34 PM
Labour for me is human productive effort towards achieving set target.To answer the question, labour may be wealth, in the sense that when others labour while you fold your harms and watch from where will the wealth come from? Wealth creation cannot be separated from human effort  both mental and  physical.
You know one could also labour so hard yet nothing to show for it. it's not just about working hard or labour it has to do with several things hence success or wealth can be created.

In my place their are set of people know for all the hard work, they can work so hard do everything but they still remain the lowest in wealth creation, in as much wealth is concern you must put lots of things in consideration to create the wealth you desire.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: CK485 on September 06, 2024, 10:52:48 PM

The saying "hard work begets happiness" is true.  But it must be mixed with intelligence.  The work you want to do must be age appropriate.  But it is true that among the animals donkey is very hard working but he is not the king of the forest whereas lion is the king of the forest even though he works little.


Indeed, we have to work every day, which of course must be balanced with the physical and skills that we have, in working hard it needs to be done to get the wealth that we want, in an achievement that you get, that way there will be happiness and prosperity that you get.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Dewi Aries on September 06, 2024, 11:09:15 PM
Labour for me is human productive effort towards achieving set target.To answer the question, labour may be wealth, in the sense that when others labour while you fold your harms and watch from where will the wealth come from? Wealth creation cannot be separated from human effort  both mental and  physical.
You know one could also labour so hard yet nothing to show for it. it's not just about working hard or labour it has to do with several things hence success or wealth can be created.

In my place their are set of people know for all the hard work, they can work so hard do everything but they still remain the lowest in wealth creation, in as much wealth is concern you must put lots of things in consideration to create the wealth you desire.

Maybe luck is a little involved there so that there are some people who have worked hard but did not get the results as expected, but I think when you have tried to step then at least you will get an experience that will be a lesson when for example your hard work does not achieve success. Like a group of people in your area that you have mentioned who have worked hard but are still in a low situation in life, but I think I will not conclude everything too early, remember that there is no measure of the length of time a  person must go through, and that means that maybe the group of people you mentioned are those who are still in the process of achieving something big and proud, because after all hard work is one of the keys to success.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: enwi on September 06, 2024, 11:14:14 PM
Labour for me is human productive effort towards achieving set target.To answer the question, labour may be wealth, in the sense that when others labour while you fold your harms and watch from where will the wealth come from? Wealth creation cannot be separated from human effort  both mental and  physical.
You know one could also labour so hard yet nothing to show for it. it's not just about working hard or labour it has to do with several things hence success or wealth can be created.

In my place their are set of people know for all the hard work, they can work so hard do everything but they still remain the lowest in wealth creation, in as much wealth is concern you must put lots of things in consideration to create the wealth you desire.

Maybe luck is a little involved there so that there are some people who have worked hard but did not get the results as expected, but I think when you have tried to step then at least you will get an experience that will be a lesson when for example your hard work does not achieve success. Like a group of people in your area that you have mentioned who have worked hard but are still in a low situation in life, but I think I will not conclude everything too early, remember that there is no measure of the length of time a  person must go through, and that means that maybe the group of people you mentioned are those who are still in the process of achieving something big and proud, because after all hard work is one of the keys to success.
Precisely, luck is relative and it may work for or against someone depending on the aspect under consideration; however, the input, effort and hard work has a direct positive relationship with the accomplishment of goals. Even when one tries so hard and gets no results he or she gets other things like experience from the efforts put in. Perhaps it could turn into a learning experience which steering changes for the better next time within the strategies and the approaches being used. In many situations, consistency and perseverance are the main factors which may define success, even if there may be years of waiting for the outcome.
 
 One must also note that everyone has our own success story and the period to success differs from one individual to another. While looking at the group of people you named, they may not necessarily get the results they expected, this means that their efforts were not wasted. This process could be a step forward to the achievement process. Sometimes success is not easy and that brings in a very important factor which is tenacity in the face of challenge.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: STT on September 06, 2024, 11:23:17 PM
I thought the definition of wealth is when you can live without labor just your capital then you are by definition wealthy.    Most people work 50 years to achieve this retirement and its fairly brief due to their life span, its hard to get and stay wealthy in this way.   Some are laboring still during their retirement, partly or even full time labor must continue if your retirement savings are not sufficent to pay the costs you still have.

Most of us aim to accumulate the wealth such as housing so that rent is no longer a bill to be paid.    If you own your land you can do many things are a greater leisure then when required to pay so many more bills while working, commuting and paying any costs involved in working.     Wealth is one thing to me, time and freedom of choice to do as you wish; so most only dream of this.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: SamReomo on September 06, 2024, 11:26:54 PM
Wealth creation cannot be separated from human effort  both mental and  physical.
That's true for most people and I believe all of the top entrepreneurs are great examples for us. They have created wealth because they have put very hard effort and that effort led them to earn wealth overtime.

There are some people who are born in rich households but even those people needed mental and physical effort to sustain the wealth that they inherit.

The ones inherited huge wealth will slowly start losing it if they don't put mental and physical effort in sustaining of that wealth.

That's why I also believe that human effort is a very important aspect of ones success in life and without effort one can't reach the levels of success he/she may wanted to reach.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: HelliumZ on September 06, 2024, 11:37:08 PM
Labour for me is human productive effort towards achieving set target.To answer the question, labour may be wealth, in the sense that when others labour while you fold your harms and watch from where will the wealth come from? Wealth creation cannot be separated from human effort  both mental and  physical.
Labor is definitely an asset and it is termed as valuable asset. The economic standard of a country mainly depends on the labor force of the country. The more advanced the labor force is in the country, the more developed the country is. Like health is a valuable asset and without good health the body is not good, just as labor power is a valuable asset for a country and because of this labor power a country is prosperous. Moreover, if the developed countries of the world are taken as idols, then you can research there and see that they are so developed and rich mainly because of the labor force.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Dewi Aries on September 07, 2024, 09:01:49 PM
Maybe luck is a little involved there so that there are some people who have worked hard but did not get the results as expected, but I think when you have tried to step then at least you will get an experience that will be a lesson when for example your hard work does not achieve success. Like a group of people in your area that you have mentioned who have worked hard but are still in a low situation in life, but I think I will not conclude everything too early, remember that there is no measure of the length of time a  person must go through, and that means that maybe the group of people you mentioned are those who are still in the process of achieving something big and proud, because after all hard work is one of the keys to success.
Precisely, luck is relative and it may work for or against someone depending on the aspect under consideration; however, the input, effort and hard work has a direct positive relationship with the accomplishment of goals. Even when one tries so hard and gets no results he or she gets other things like experience from the efforts put in. Perhaps it could turn into a learning experience which steering changes for the better next time within the strategies and the approaches being used. In many situations, consistency and perseverance are the main factors which may define success, even if there may be years of waiting for the outcome.
 
 One must also note that everyone has our own success story and the period to success differs from one individual to another. While looking at the group of people you named, they may not necessarily get the results they expected, this means that their efforts were not wasted. This process could be a step forward to the achievement process. Sometimes success is not easy and that brings in a very important factor which is tenacity in the face of challenge.

I think everything you said is true, and it can also be a reason why some people succeed and some people end up in the middle of the journey, and actually success is something that can be achieved by everyone, but the problem is not everyone really wants to work hard and not everyone who works hard can continue to be patient in going through the process until they achieve the desired success.

This does not mean that success is only for some people, but success is for people who never give up in working hard and also have extraordinary consistency, perseverance and patience. And also actually failure is not the end of everything, because I often hear people who succeed in achieving their success by first experiencing failure, I think we can use one of the public figures, namely Jack Ma, as an example where he experienced hundreds of failures in the process of achieving his success, but he never gave up and now he has succeeded in achieving the success he hoped for to become a famous public figure because of his inspiring success story journey, so it all depends on yourself.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Juse14 on September 07, 2024, 10:10:20 PM
Labour for me is human productive effort towards achieving set target.To answer the question, labour may be wealth, in the sense that when others labour while you fold your harms and watch from where will the wealth come from? Wealth creation cannot be separated from human effort  both mental and  physical.
Labor is definitely an asset and it is termed as valuable asset. The economic standard of a country mainly depends on the labor force of the country. The more advanced the labor force is in the country, the more developed the country is. Like health is a valuable asset and without good health the body is not good, just as labor power is a valuable asset for a country and because of this labor power a country is prosperous. Moreover, if the developed countries of the world are taken as idols, then you can research there and see that they are so developed and rich mainly because of the labor force.

Labor can indeed be a valuable asset for a country. however, it must be kept in mind that, unmanaged, labor can be a burden. For example, if a proper education, suitable employment opportunities, or decent working conditions are not provided impetuously by the country, then the large workforce can actually become a burden. On the other hand, countries with a smaller population but skilled and educated workforces are often more productive and advanced. Therefore, what is important is not only the quantity of labor but its quality and management.

Apart from workforce quality and management, innovation and technology are an essential factor in a country's progress. A country seeking progress must have a strong technological base. The developed countries have an advantage of making the workforce capable of being more productive because of the technology used. So even though the number of workers is not too much, their efficiency is very high. And vice versa.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: pusaka on September 08, 2024, 07:32:49 AM
Labor is definitely an asset and it is termed as valuable asset. The economic standard of a country mainly depends on the labor force of the country. The more advanced the labor force is in the country, the more developed the country is. Like health is a valuable asset and without good health the body is not good, just as labor power is a valuable asset for a country and because of this labor power a country is prosperous. Moreover, if the developed countries of the world are taken as idols, then you can research there and see that they are so developed and rich mainly because of the labor force.

Labor can indeed be a valuable asset for a country. however, it must be kept in mind that, unmanaged, labor can be a burden. For example, if a proper education, suitable employment opportunities, or decent working conditions are not provided impetuously by the country, then the large workforce can actually become a burden. On the other hand, countries with a smaller population but skilled and educated workforces are often more productive and advanced. Therefore, what is important is not only the quantity of labor but its quality and management.

Apart from workforce quality and management, innovation and technology are an essential factor in a country's progress. A country seeking progress must have a strong technological base. The developed countries have an advantage of making the workforce capable of being more productive because of the technology used. So even though the number of workers is not too much, their efficiency is very high. And vice versa.
This can be called human resources, a country will be able to become a developed country if they have good human resources. For example, in a country that has abundant natural resources, but its human resources do not have the competence to manage it, then it will be taken over by outsiders, or in other words the country cannot maximize what they have from their natural resources.
This is the task of a country's government to be able to create good human resources. As you said, this is an asset, but to create these assets we are required to work hard to be able to have them. How many countries are finally still developing countries while in terms of wealth they have it, it is because they lack inadequate human resources.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: RockBell on September 08, 2024, 06:48:50 PM
Labour for me is human productive effort towards achieving set target.To answer the question, labour may be wealth, in the sense that when others labour while you fold your harms and watch from where will the wealth come from? Wealth creation cannot be separated from human effort  both mental and  physical.

I was doing analysis at of how things were in the 90s and now and the things that gives value now and then is actually different, labor maybe wealth to some people, brains might be wealth might be for other so everything is just different for everyone and I feel like wealth is no longer by labor,  just that you if you don't work you won't eat, we know that the effort is good and even if we are trying to be smart we still effort even in our consistency, how it is built is also very important because everything will start from the mind and how prepared you are towards building the future.

Labor is definitely an asset and it is termed as valuable asset. The economic standard of a country mainly depends on the labor force of the country. The more advanced the labor force is in the country, the more developed the country is. Like health is a valuable asset and without good health the body is not good, just as labor power is a valuable asset for a country and because of this labor power a country is prosperous. Moreover, if the developed countries of the world are taken as idols, then you can research there and see that they are so developed and rich mainly because of the labor force.

Yes labor is important but not to everyone their are people whose mindset can creat wealth for them the sense that they can actually own companies and allow people to work for them and we all have different desires and expectations and how how life will go is all in our hands if we want to work or we want people to work for us. We are also scared of risk and if we don't risk it now that is if we have the idea to start up a company does that owes a lot of companies today started with an idea also. Health might be very important profession but it the new idea with AI now is going to make humans in that sector to be oudated. When we think we should think about the future and how things will look like when the future comes, it is coming earlier than we expected, their are some things that we don't expect to happen now and it is already everywhere, as labor is important we should also thing of retirement too.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Akbarkoe on September 08, 2024, 07:43:07 PM
Labour for me is human productive effort towards achieving set target.To answer the question, labour may be wealth, in the sense that when others labour while you fold your harms and watch from where will the wealth come from? Wealth creation cannot be separated from human effort  both mental and  physical.

I was doing analysis at of how things were in the 90s and now and the things that gives value now and then is actually different, labor maybe wealth to some people, brains might be wealth might be for other so everything is just different for everyone and I feel like wealth is no longer by labor,  just that you if you don't work you won't eat, we know that the effort is good and even if we are trying to be smart we still effort even in our consistency, how it is built is also very important because everything will start from the mind and how prepared you are towards building the future.
We don't need to separate between hard work and smart work, these two things as you mentioned about energy with past dogma in effort and smart in today's thinking about business, honestly these two things are very related and if you combine both to get wealth it will be much faster, because if separated, smart alone is not enough to build wealth and hard work with energy alone is not enough to build wealth, therefore it must be combined, we must work hard and work smart, I often see an Elon Musk who only sleeps for a short time and even sleeps in his office to ensure his business is successful.

Energy and brain are tools that we can use to build wealth.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Hispo on September 09, 2024, 12:57:44 AM
Labour itself does not equals wealth, labour is the process which used to create wealth by adding more value to products and services all of it by human effort or the use of energy.
It is perceived to be inherently tied to the work being done by a human being, but technology (from the very beginning with the invention of the wheel, steam engines and now artificial intelligences) has been always been about making labour more efficient, using less energy and man power to create as much production as possible.

When a cook takes a steak and turns it into a gourmet meal, it is wealth creation.
When an engineer turns a piece of steel into a gear, that is also wealth creation.
When an artist creates a drawing, that is wealth creation.

All of them involve human beings and effort (both physical and mental) which is to be replenished by a salary.
Only time will tell what is going to happen when machines start to replace most of the working population and the wealth gets further accumulated by a few percentage of people. There is likely we will see a marked decline in world population, specially in asian and western countries.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: tottong on September 09, 2024, 02:23:43 AM
While the majority cannot level up to build their own businesses, don't you think that the rich also have a hand in stiffening the success journey of their employees? Businesses require capital to start up, but most workers in established platforms still get owed of their wages. How then would such an employee resign and be liable to set out a good capital to run or build a business?

Nobody is to be called out for their inefficiency to move out of their office to begin a new working experience elsewhere, the business world is quite political, and those at the top won't step down for anybody to take over. The rich or business owners also know that if things are made easier for workers their existing company may be taken down by that of their former employee's new business.

If someone has the intention to build a business, they can save for the capital needed and may need to think about how someone can make a percentage of savings as a step to build a business.
If the assumption is like that, then the people who will be successful in building a business are only those who have a lot of money and have a network of rich people.
But the fact is that there are also people who have succeeded in creating a business despite any limitations and whether someone who builds a business starts with a large capital and why not think about building a small business first before everything becomes big.

Of course building a business is not easy because it does require many things as support, but if someone is serious and has the skills to develop, they will definitely achieve success even though it comes late.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Kelward on September 12, 2024, 08:43:56 AM
Labour for me is human productive effort towards achieving set target.To answer the question, labour may be wealth, in the sense that when others labour while you fold your harms and watch from where will the wealth come from? Wealth creation cannot be separated from human effort  both mental and  physical.
My own definition of wealth is riches or assets that is stored and it can generate income even in your absence. Labor on it's own is work to earn money and if you just use the money to take care of your immediate basic needs it will become survival because you are not reserving anything for future needs. But when you earn money and invest it where it will yield more money in the future then it becomes wealth.

Many people in underdeveloped countries works hard meaning that they labor but they are not wealthy individuals because despite their struggling if their work stops their conditions will become worse off. Wealth is after using your skills to earn money then you can give your children quality education, have assets that can last into the future and you can rely on. People can inherit wealth while others have to struggle to make and build wealth, it doesn't come by work or labor alone.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: cryptoWODL on September 12, 2024, 02:04:16 PM
Labour for me is human productive effort towards achieving set target.To answer the question, labour may be wealth, in the sense that when others labour while you fold your harms and watch from where will the wealth come from? Wealth creation cannot be separated from human effort  both mental and  physical.
Labor is definitely an asset and it is termed as valuable asset. The economic standard of a country mainly depends on the labor force of the country. The more advanced the labor force is in the country, the more developed the country is. Like health is a valuable asset and without good health the body is not good, just as labor power is a valuable asset for a country and because of this labor power a country is prosperous. Moreover, if the developed countries of the world are taken as idols, then you can research there and see that they are so developed and rich mainly because of the labor force.
Yes I agree labor is a resource we need to work hard as well as be smart. A nation that is more hardworking and intelligent is economically stronger in the world. Behind the development of the world's developed countries is the story of the labor force. The economic value of a country depends on its labor force, but that labor force must be converted into skilled manpower. In fact, to survive in the world, one has to struggle, labor is the main tool of human development. So if we want to increase our wealth and even improve our condition, we must make ourselves labor oriented.

We have to be diligent as well as efficient. If you mindlessly do manual labor it may not work for you. Remember that in order to move a country forward economically, skilled manpower plays an important role along with the labor force of that country.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: TatsuyaJemi on September 12, 2024, 02:19:08 PM
Those who work hard honestly, they never get bored. They can achieve good success at some point, the only key to success is hard work. As well as luck has some hand but you have to work hard. If you work hard you will definitely get success sometime.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: CageMabok on September 12, 2024, 02:26:18 PM
Those who work hard honestly, they never get bored. They can achieve good success at some point, the only key to success is hard work. As well as luck has some hand but you have to work hard. If you work hard you will definitely get success sometime.
Hard work must also be accompanied by intelligence and also high spirits because to achieve success it will not be enough just by working hard at this time because now almost everyone must be able to work smart in order to be able to cut more energy and time in achieving the desired success. In addition, there must also be high spirits and dedication so that the steps we build are truly consistent and not easily fragile and not easily complaining when conditions become more difficult at certain times.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Mr.sprin on September 12, 2024, 06:28:19 PM
Those who work hard honestly, they never get bored. They can achieve good success at some point, the only key to success is hard work. As well as luck has some hand but you have to work hard. If you work hard you will definitely get success sometime.

Hard work is the key to success but it must be based on knowledge and intelligent abilities, hard work alone is not enough, there must be a pattern that can make us successful through hard work, hard work coupled with creative ideas will make it easier for us to get to where wealth is. , and we have to prepare various aspects to reach the highest point so that we can direct ourselves, training our patience and mentality is also important so that our hard work so far is not wasted.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: kasablings on September 13, 2024, 07:40:32 PM
Labour can be wealth depends on the how your labour is,every labour has a prize so it depends on what you labour for to get your wealth.bill gate been a wealthy man has laboured in is own way to be this rich.so my opinion I believe labour is wealth because with out labour there is no reward and your reward might be wealth


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Antotena on September 13, 2024, 08:50:22 PM
Hard work is the key to success but it must be based on knowledge and intelligent abilities, hard work alone is not enough, there must be a pattern that can make us successful through hard work, hard work coupled with creative ideas will make it easier for us to get to where wealth is. , and we have to prepare various aspects to reach the highest point so that we can direct ourselves, training our patience and mentality is also important so that our hard work so far is not wasted.

Hard work isn't the way to success but smartness and having ideas that can help you change your life. I'm going to use this forum as an example, in this forum there are people that get paid as high as $100 and this might look cheap in some countries that are paid hourly but in countries that are paif monthly and weekly, if you give them $100, it's like you have change their life. Now, imagine been paid that amount weekly when you can do more hardwork outside the forum.

Not just this forum is a place where money can be made without doing much, actually staying online and been active is hard too but not compare to someone that has to stay awake from money and night only to be paid the same amount where you can just spend 5 hours and enjoy the rest of the day with your family. Work smart, connect with people and make networking and don't use hardwork to kill your body before you can make money.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: martinex on September 14, 2024, 08:13:48 AM
Wealth comes from God Almighty, our job is to work and I am sure that regardless of whether or not after we try later we will only receive the provisions basically. I personally have tried with various efforts to add activities to increase income but the end result is not the same and up to the expectations I want. However, I am still grateful even though the results are like that, the positive point is that I am still given health so that I can carry out other activities well.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: uswa56 on September 14, 2024, 01:48:47 PM
Those who work hard honestly, they never get bored. They can achieve good success at some point, the only key to success is hard work. As well as luck has some hand but you have to work hard. If you work hard you will definitely get success sometime.

Hard work is the key to success but it must be based on knowledge and intelligent abilities, hard work alone is not enough, there must be a pattern that can make us successful through hard work, hard work coupled with creative ideas will make it easier for us to get to where wealth is. , and we have to prepare various aspects to reach the highest point so that we can direct ourselves, training our patience and mentality is also important so that our hard work so far is not wasted.

Without knowledge and ability, it will be very difficult for a person to be able to do a job that can give them success but they can only do work to meet their needs and to be able to achieve success, of course, they need the right knowledge of the work they do and to be able to achieve wealth from the work we do, it is very important for us to be able to master well The work and must also be done well in order to achieve the goals we want.
Continue to develop the potential that exists in us, of course, this will be very good in heading towards success and also we must have patience from every process that we must go through in order to achieve the success we want, because without patience it is very impossible for someone to survive the work they do.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: wmaurik on September 14, 2024, 03:04:31 PM
Labour can be wealth depends on the how your labour is,every labour has a prize so it depends on what you labour for to get your wealth.bill gate been a wealthy man has laboured in is own way to be this rich.so my opinion I believe labour is wealth because with out labour there is no reward and your reward might be wealth

If you take Bill Gates as an example, you should also look at the level of IQ that Bill Gates has because he is a smart person and was also born into a rich family so that he can develop what he wants with the determination that is already in his own mind. It is not wrong to see successful people like Bill Gates as our self-motivation in terms of struggling and working hard, but we must also realize that working hard also requires knowledge in order to be able to make money while sleeping like Bill Gates.

Because if you only think about working hard without thinking about improving the skills and knowledge that you need at this time, maybe you will also work hard until you die until you don't realize that there is a lot of time that you have wasted in that. So what you have to do now is to be smart in working so that there is not much time wasted because time is also a valuable capital that will not return when it is lost. And now you can also see some other people who are still working hard without much knowledge with people who have worked smarter with a much more maximum income level by relying on their knowledge and skills.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: justdimin on September 15, 2024, 05:59:49 AM
Those who work hard honestly, they never get bored. They can achieve good success at some point, the only key to success is hard work. As well as luck has some hand but you have to work hard. If you work hard you will definitely get success sometime.

Hard work is the key to success but it must be based on knowledge and intelligent abilities, hard work alone is not enough, there must be a pattern that can make us successful through hard work, hard work coupled with creative ideas will make it easier for us to get to where wealth is. , and we have to prepare various aspects to reach the highest point so that we can direct ourselves, training our patience and mentality is also important so that our hard work so far is not wasted.
It should also be on something that makes sense for a long term as well, like something that worths some money. Otherwise, you are working on something that nobody wants, then why would anyone really pay anything for it, and you would not get that rich, it's not related at all, I personally would avoid that if I can. I believe that the best thing to do would be related to just focusing on what kind of money that we can make if we work hard, in that regard we can find a job that can pay very well if we work really hard and do it well.

In the end, you do need to be smart about it, and you need to do well and maybe even be a little lucky and even have some capital to start, but all of it only works if you work hard, even in best conditions, even if you are super wealthy kid from parents money and networks, if you do not work, it will eventually fail. So you should always try to find something that you could make money from at first, then work very hard for it.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Albarq on September 17, 2024, 12:08:24 PM
It should also be on something that makes sense for a long term as well, like something that worths some money. Otherwise, you are working on something that nobody wants, then why would anyone really pay anything for it, and you would not get that rich, it's not related at all, I personally would avoid that if I can. I believe that the best thing to do would be related to just focusing on what kind of money that we can make if we work hard, in that regard we can find a job that can pay very well if we work really hard and do it well.

In the end, you do need to be smart about it, and you need to do well and maybe even be a little lucky and even have some capital to start, but all of it only works if you work hard, even in best conditions, even if you are super wealthy kid from parents money and networks, if you do not work, it will eventually fail. So you should always try to find something that you could make money from at first, then work very hard for it.

Regarding work, everyone must do it, and those who have money from their parents, it is only temporary and still it is not a reference for someone not to work, and can run out in a certain time, always try in any case in work.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Nothingtodo on September 17, 2024, 12:38:01 PM
Labour for me is human productive effort towards achieving set target.To answer the question, labour may be wealth, in the sense that when others labour while you fold your harms and watch from where will the wealth come from? Wealth creation cannot be separated from human effort  both mental and  physical.
Of course labor is considered an asset, labor is not only an asset but a valuable asset. The more industrious a nation is, the more developed it is.  A lazy nation can never prosper on earth. Industrial revolution and agricultural development in a country requires an industrious nation. Japan, China and the United States of America are known as the most advanced and prosperous nations in the world because of their hard working people.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: red4slash on September 17, 2024, 02:56:58 PM

Many people in underdeveloped countries works hard meaning that they labor but they are not wealthy individuals because despite their struggling if their work stops their conditions will become worse off. Wealth is after using your skills to earn money then you can give your children quality education, have assets that can last into the future and you can rely on. People can inherit wealth while others have to struggle to make and build wealth, it doesn't come by work or labor alone.
The concept for people who are at a lower economic level is clearly making work a part of themselves because they must be aware that when they work then they will indirectly get wages in the form of money from it in order to survive in the life they are doing now because until now we are even a lot of people who have to die due to their inability to find money and they are clearly required to work to make their lives better even though in the end it can only be sufficient for their daily lives.

This is a form of life's journey because if we come from people with low economic levels we are indirectly required to think about how we can eat and support our families tomorrow and in the end money is always a problem that cannot be solved so working is a mandatory thing to support it.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Yucky on September 17, 2024, 04:15:08 PM
Labour, which most people will interpret as, working hard physically, does not equal to wealth. Some people that toy year in, year out, month in, month out, still feed from hand to mouth, they barely have enough for themselves, talk more of catering for their family.

What I consider wealth is dignity in labor. When whatever you are doing, you are not straining your physical strength, like you are not pushing yourself to the limit where your physical ability is exhausted. You are applying a bit of physical with your mental knowledge, and you are making money from it, and over time, you invest and your money starts making more money for you.

So, either way you have to labour, but it mustn't be so physical, and it must be hard labour.  It shouldn't stress you out physically. I prefer working hard mentally with a little physical effort, maybe stepping out for certain important meetings, getting my hands dirty once or twice, but toiling out under the sun from nine to five does not equal to wealth at all


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: $anounimus$ on September 17, 2024, 06:53:27 PM
Of course labor is considered an asset, labor is not only an asset but a valuable asset. The more industrious a nation is, the more developed it is.  A lazy nation can never prosper on earth. Industrial revolution and agricultural development in a country requires an industrious nation. Japan, China and the United States of America are known as the most advanced and prosperous nations in the world because of their hard working people.
Every country will always think of employment for its people so that prosperity can be felt together. I agree with you that the developed countries are mostly because the people are diligent and working hard. But in essence everyone is indeed required to work in any way as long as it does not conflict with the law in the country. In addition, the government is also obliged to think about how the people can get a job to reduce the high crime rate which of course will impact on the balance of the country itself.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: wahyuagung26 on September 17, 2024, 08:12:23 PM
Regarding work, everyone must do it, and those who have money from their parents, it is only temporary and still it is not a reference for someone not to work, and can run out in a certain time, always try in any case in work.


 Economy and needs require money in terms of sufficiency, those who work all pursue this with the needs and requirements that they must fulfill, everyone should have a job, because this is really what is needed from someone to earn money for them to survive, Work plays a very important role in this.

Continuing to rely on giving in the form of money from parents is an obligation for every family, but they must really be able to find work in the future, because this concerns the interests of each individual.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on September 17, 2024, 09:06:54 PM
Labour for me is human productive effort towards achieving set target.To answer the question, labour may be wealth, in the sense that when others labour while you fold your harms and watch from where will the wealth come from? Wealth creation cannot be separated from human effort  both mental and  physical.

Labour is wealth because in so doing, you're going to be paid from it and this will help you to gather up to a reasonable amount of money for achieving something in life, we don't have to undermine the labour market, because our physical, mental and natural way of thing is being channeled towards the dignity in labour from what we do to earn from, labour come come in any form, as long as you will be paid for doing something constructive and in others people demands.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: NewRanger on September 18, 2024, 05:34:20 AM
Economy and needs require money in terms of sufficiency, those who work all pursue this with the needs and requirements that they must fulfill, everyone should have a job, because this is really what is needed from someone to earn money for them to survive, Work plays a very important role in this.

Continuing to rely on giving in the form of money from parents is an obligation for every family, but they must really be able to find work in the future, because this concerns the interests of each individual.

all the basics are for the sake of fulfilling needs, if it is not too important and urgent I think people will not try so hard to achieve it even though all of this has its limitations too. namely the physical abilities, knowledge, and expertise of each person are different.

One thing I believe is that luck has been regulated and we only try as best we can and be grateful for what we have received later, whether the amount is small or large.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: uswa56 on September 18, 2024, 07:47:48 AM
Labour for me is human productive effort towards achieving set target.To answer the question, labour may be wealth, in the sense that when others labour while you fold your harms and watch from where will the wealth come from? Wealth creation cannot be separated from human effort  both mental and  physical.

Labour is wealth because in so doing, you're going to be paid from it and this will help you to gather up to a reasonable amount of money for achieving something in life, we don't have to undermine the labour market, because our physical, mental and natural way of thing is being channeled towards the dignity in labour from what we do to earn from, labour come come in any form, as long as you will be paid for doing something constructive and in others people demands.

After doing the work, of course, you will get paid according to the work we do and if we continue to complete a job well then we will be able to get an income that we can save for something we want and it is very unlikely that someone will be able to achieve what they want without having an income that can meet their desires therefore we must be able to have a skill that we can do Do it in order to be able to provide income to be able to achieve what we want and rightly as you said, whatever we do must be able to provide income and do not let us do something that does not provide income, of course this will be very disappointing after being tired of working not being able to get income from the job.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: doomloop on September 19, 2024, 08:49:00 PM
Labour for me is human productive effort towards achieving set target.To answer the question, labour may be wealth, in the sense that when others labour while you fold your harms and watch from where will the wealth come from? Wealth creation cannot be separated from human effort  both mental and  physical.
Of course labor is considered an asset, labor is not only an asset but a valuable asset. The more industrious a nation is, the more developed it is.  A lazy nation can never prosper on earth. Industrial revolution and agricultural development in a country requires an industrious nation. Japan, China and the United States of America are known as the most advanced and prosperous nations in the world because of their hard working people.
First of all, I would like to define if what is the word called 'asset'. An asset can be a crypto, gold, and real estate (only to name a few). It can also be something that can give us a reward or advantage. Labour can be one of it like you said because labour is usually a kind of job and when we have a job, we can earn a money. An industrious nation can also require more laborers. I think this is both positive and negative. So, those who are not industrious are not always negative and it doesn't always mean that they are lazy. Like it or not, there are still nations that are like that. They still exist on earth and they still can prosper on their own ways.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Miles2006 on September 19, 2024, 10:08:56 PM
In as much as labour is wealth not everyone get lucky with wealth although this has been from start when young people struggle to make wealth but some at the end don’t get to a high standard. A productivity mindset is more better because without the right mindset people intend to labour in vain, I have seen different people handling same business but the opponent make more profit and my question is why? Some people have the aim to work endless but lack a productive mindset for more increase. Wealth is something so unique and it comes differently because anyone can still acquire wealth without any labour etc secondly not all hardwork will guarantee wealth.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: ivankoh on September 19, 2024, 11:11:21 PM
I think labor is wealth, whether little or much, wealth is also conceptualized as a type of property from low value to high value. For example, motorbikes, cars, gold, houses, land, farms... In fact, labor creates money and from there accumulates over time to have wealth. Whether you are rich or poor, you still have to work, the only difference is in the way you work.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Churchillvv on September 19, 2024, 11:17:27 PM
I think labor is wealth, whether little or much, wealth is also conceptualized as a type of property from low value to high value. For example, motorbikes, cars, gold, houses, land, farms... In fact, labor creates money and from there accumulates over time to have wealth. Whether you are rich or poor, you still have to work, the only difference is in the way you work.
I like the fact that you ended the statement by saying it all depends on the way you work hence I would have disagreed with you totally but perhaps you are also right in the end. Apparently labour isn't wealth but for one to be wealthy one has to labour. it's a two different thing altogether, when you labour in the wrong direction it can never create wealth for one to be wealthy you have make plans stick to those plans even when you are doing the hard labours hence you will be creating wealth but when you just work without direction it becomes a waste of effort and wealth can never be created out of such labour.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: lionheart78 on September 19, 2024, 11:20:30 PM
Labour for me is human productive effort towards achieving set target.To answer the question, labour may be wealth, in the sense that when others labour while you fold your harms and watch from where will the wealth come from? Wealth creation cannot be separated from human effort  both mental and  physical.

Labour is wealth because in so doing, you're going to be paid from it and this will help you to gather up to a reasonable amount of money for achieving something in life, we don't have to undermine the labour market, because our physical, mental and natural way of thing is being channeled towards the dignity in labour from what we do to earn from, labour come come in any form, as long as you will be paid for doing something constructive and in others people demands.

Labor is not wealth it is the key component of producing wealth, but labor itself is not wealth.  Just like income and wealth is different.  Labor is an effort to generate income and yet income whichs is the indicator of financial security just like wealth, on its form cannot be considered as wealth. 
According to this article: ‘What’s the difference between income and wealth?’ and other common questions about economic concepts (https://www.pewresearch.org/decoded/2021/07/23/whats-the-difference-between-income-and-wealth-and-other-common-questions-about-economic-concepts/)

written in italic is an excerpt from the link above:
Income is not wealth because : "Income is the sum of earnings from a job or a self-owned business, interest on savings and investments, payments from social programs and many other sources. It is usually calculated on an annual or monthly basis."

While wealth is: "Wealth, or net worth, is the value of assets owned by a family or an individual (such as a home or a savings account) minus outstanding debt (such as a mortgage or student loan). It refers to an amount that has been accumulated over a lifetime or more (since it may be passed across generations)."


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: rhodelmabanal on September 20, 2024, 11:54:35 AM
Labour for me is human productive effort towards achieving set target.To answer the question, labour may be wealth, in the sense that when others labour while you fold your harms and watch from where will the wealth come from? Wealth creation cannot be separated from human effort  both mental and  physical.
Labour is wealth you can have money if they pay when you do labour or work for someone, so it is wealth, as long as you have a healthy body and can do anything to gain profit then that is a big wealth, because there is a lot of opportunities to earn, some people is born from wealthy family and they have big advantage but as long as we are free from sickness we are also lucky.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Kcrypto18 on September 20, 2024, 02:18:11 PM
To me, labor is wealth. Arguing that labor isn’t linked to wealth doesn’t make sense because wealth can’t exist without work. Human effort, whether it's physical or mental, is always behind wealth creation. The idea that wealth can be made without labor ignores the fact that everything valuable comes from someone's hard work. You can't separate wealth from the effort that creates it.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Republikcoin.com on September 20, 2024, 02:46:43 PM
Regarding work, everyone must do it, and those who have money from their parents, it is only temporary and still it is not a reference for someone not to work, and can run out in a certain time, always try in any case in work.
It sounds a little funny when you associate the problem of working with pocket money from parents :D, because people who can work and earn their own money should no longer need to expect pocket money from their own parents even though their parents are rich. I would even feel very embarrassed when I grow up and am able to work independently and still have to expect something like that from my own parents, because people who are able to work for themselves are people who are able to think independently and also have their own careers better through things that they are able to pursue well.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Smartprofit on September 21, 2024, 04:11:02 PM
Labour for me is human productive effort towards achieving set target.To answer the question, labour may be wealth, in the sense that when others labour while you fold your harms and watch from where will the wealth come from? Wealth creation cannot be separated from human effort  both mental and  physical.

Does slave labor create wealth for the slave? Of course not! Slave labor is a source of wealth for the slave owner.

Labor is one of the resources that can create wealth (either directly for the worker or for his master/employer).

Labor, being a resource, can be sold. Workers are hired for a fee by selling their labor. Entrepreneurs buy other people's labor, including this cost in the cost of goods produced.

However, you cannot get rich if you are only willing to work and are not willing to acquire new skills and knowledge. Highly skilled labor is paid better than low-skilled labor. Business is usually more profitable than hired labor. Investing usually brings more profit than business.

When formulating your life strategy, it is better to reduce the amount of your own labor in your income systems over time.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Zoomic on September 21, 2024, 08:09:36 PM
To me, labor is wealth. Arguing that labor isn’t linked to wealth doesn’t make sense because wealth can’t exist without work. Human effort, whether it's physical or mental, is always behind wealth creation. The idea that wealth can be made without labor ignores the fact that everything valuable comes from someone's hard work. You can't separate wealth from the effort that creates it.
Ain't you contradicting yourself?
Labour is used to create wealth, does it make it wealth?
People use palm fruits to make soap, does it mean palm fruit is soap itself?
If labor is wealth, how then do we classify forced labor?
Labor and wealth no doubt are related, but labor is not wealth. In most cases, labor alone can not create wealth. Labor works in conjunction with other factors of production to create wealth. Wealth can only be created if all these factors of production are applied productively and efficiently. Mere having that human mental or physical effort is not enough, if that alone was enough,  we wouldn't be having lots of poor people on the streets.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: dezoel on September 22, 2024, 06:12:39 PM
Japan, China and the United States of America are known as the most advanced and prosperous nations in the world because of their hard working people.
Well, the people who work hard as laborers in these countries mostly aren't their people, especially in the United States, but it's people who migrated to these countries for work because of low pay rates in their countries. It's basically about making the best of the laborers you have to improve your industries. Many countries are unable to do that, they don't pay their workers enough to motivate them to keep working hard and this makes them move to these developed countries to work there only so that they can earn what they deserve for their work.

So, it's true that labour is an asset and these major countries make sure they make full use of it this is the reason why these countries are so developed because they know that laborers are a moving force for any nation or any industry. It's about using the right resources at the right time and place to get full benefits from it and they do it very well.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Alone055 on September 22, 2024, 06:39:35 PM
Labour is used to create wealth, does it make it wealth?
People use palm fruits to make soap, does it mean palm fruit is soap itself?
If labor is wealth, how then do we classify forced labor?
Labor and wealth no doubt are related, but labor is not wealth. In most cases, labor alone can not create wealth. Labor works in conjunction with other factors of production to create wealth. Wealth can only be created if all these factors of production are applied productively and efficiently. Mere having that human mental or physical effort is not enough, if that alone was enough,  we wouldn't be having lots of poor people on the streets.

Agreed. Labor is not wealth for the laborer, if it was, uneducated people who work so hard for small daily wages would be rich in no time because an average laborer works way harder than a person sitting in an office but the amount of money they both make has a huge difference. Labor is wealth for those who are getting it used for their benefits. Take the example of a factory where thousands of people work, make products, do packing and everything, even if most things are done through machines these days, there are still human workers in there managing everything. What do they get? An average monthly salary. Who earns most of the money being made by the products made in that factory? The owner of the company, of course.

So in the true sense, labor is used to create wealth but the laborer can barely use it for themselves because they don't have the necessary resources that they can use to make the most of their labor, so they are compelled to sell it to others to earn whatever they can. What's unfortunate is labor is very cheap anywhere in the world despite the hard work a laborer puts in it.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: bangjoe on September 22, 2024, 06:54:57 PM
Labour is used to create wealth, does it make it wealth?
People use palm fruits to make soap, does it mean palm fruit is soap itself?
If labor is wealth, how then do we classify forced labor?
Labor and wealth no doubt are related, but labor is not wealth. In most cases, labor alone can not create wealth. Labor works in conjunction with other factors of production to create wealth. Wealth can only be created if all these factors of production are applied productively and efficiently. Mere having that human mental or physical effort is not enough, if that alone was enough,  we wouldn't be having lots of poor people on the streets.

Agreed. Labor is not wealth for the laborer, if it was, uneducated people who work so hard for small daily wages would be rich in no time because an average laborer works way harder than a person sitting in an office but the amount of money they both make has a huge difference. Labor is wealth for those who are getting it used for their benefits. Take the example of a factory where thousands of people work, make products, do packing and everything, even if most things are done through machines these days, there are still human workers in there managing everything. What do they get? An average monthly salary. Who earns most of the money being made by the products made in that factory? The owner of the company, of course.

So in the true sense, labor is used to create wealth but the laborer can barely use it for themselves because they don't have the necessary resources that they can use to make the most of their labor, so they are compelled to sell it to others to earn whatever they can. What's unfortunate is labor is very cheap anywhere in the world despite the hard work a laborer puts in it.

If you have an orientation that labor is a physical force at work, it will not bring you wealth, just like laborers, factory employees and others who are called manual labor, you will find your point of view on this, but if you see labor as a factor that must be included in building wealth and mentality and also a smart brain in business, of course labor becomes very important to be included in the formula, we may need to ask if the business owner is not labor? of course I would call it labor, but independent labor for his own business.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: uneng on September 22, 2024, 06:55:41 PM
To me, labor is wealth. Arguing that labor isn’t linked to wealth doesn’t make sense because wealth can’t exist without work. Human effort, whether it's physical or mental, is always behind wealth creation. The idea that wealth can be made without labor ignores the fact that everything valuable comes from someone's hard work. You can't separate wealth from the effort that creates it.
Ain't you contradicting yourself?
Labour is used to create wealth, does it make it wealth?
People use palm fruits to make soap, does it mean palm fruit is soap itself?
If labor is wealth, how then do we classify forced labor?
Labor and wealth no doubt are related, but labor is not wealth. In most cases, labor alone can not create wealth. Labor works in conjunction with other factors of production to create wealth. Wealth can only be created if all these factors of production are applied productively and efficiently. Mere having that human mental or physical effort is not enough, if that alone was enough,  we wouldn't be having lots of poor people on the streets.
It's true. Wealth is different than labor, although both are connected. You can become wealthy depending on how you manage the fruits of your labor and depending on how much income you make from your labor. If income made is only enough to pay for expenses and basic needs, wealth won't be achieved in the end of the process. So, alternative sources of income must be taken into consideration and developed.

There is a saying here which states that "who works too much doesn't have enough time to earn money". It means that too much effort put on generating labor, doesn't necessarily result in considerable positive financial returns after all... Therefore, this equation between both elements has to be balanced in order to result in positive outcomes for the individual.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Samlucky O on September 23, 2024, 06:41:08 PM
Labour is used to create wealth, does it make it wealth?
People use palm fruits to make soap, does it mean palm fruit is soap itself?
If labor is wealth, how then do we classify forced labor?
Labor and wealth no doubt are related, but labor is not wealth. In most cases, labor alone can not create wealth. Labor works in conjunction with other factors of production to create wealth. Wealth can only be created if all these factors of production are applied productively and efficiently. Mere having that human mental or physical effort is not enough, if that alone was enough,  we wouldn't be having lots of poor people on the streets.

Agreed. Labor is not wealth for the laborer, if it was, uneducated people who work so hard for small daily wages would be rich in no time because an average laborer works way harder than a person sitting in an office but the amount of money they both make has a huge difference. Labor is wealth for those who are getting it used for their benefits. Take the example of a factory where thousands of people work, make products, do packing and everything, even if most things are done through machines these days, there are still human workers in there managing everything. What do they get? An average monthly salary. Who earns most of the money being made by the products made in that factory? The owner of the company, of course.
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This video I provide above is a replica of your explanation.  I have discussed this kind of issue before about labour and wealth, everyone has their perfect definition of labour and wealth but the truth be told, without labour there is no wealth. Wealth is a product of labour, for one to achieve wealth he must work hard. Although people often talks about working smart and not hard, but I disprove that fact. I believe that even the smartness people they reffer to, still requires hard work to stay at the top. People also talks about how the boss earn the highest shears why the labourers earn peanuts, but haven't ask how the boss was able to become the boss. A boss was once a labourer so a person starting up his life can learn a skill from his boss no matter the treatment just to become a boss or master of his skill.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Onyeeze on September 23, 2024, 09:47:20 PM
Labour is not wealth from the way I understand what's wealth, even hard working is not also a wealth, but with good plans hard work can create a part for you to acquire wealth, not every hard working personnel or officer that have wealth, if you want to describe for solution for wealth I will say that wealth is all about someone concentration and focus in what you are doing, because if you don't get focus you will not active your dreams, so I know very well that we have to be focused we have to understand that different things contribute for wealth not Labour


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Albarq on September 24, 2024, 12:08:38 PM
Labour is not wealth from the way I understand what's wealth, even hard working is not also a wealth, but with good plans hard work can create a part for you to acquire wealth, not every hard working personnel or officer that have wealth, if you want to describe for solution for wealth I will say that wealth is all about someone concentration and focus in what you are doing, because if you don't get focus you will not active your dreams, so I know very well that we have to be focused we have to understand that different things contribute for wealth not Labour

Wealth depends on us to create it ourselves, in the sense that we need to make a serious effort so that what we want can be achieved with the hope that in the future it can be realized and implemented well, and it is important to think more positively.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Onyeeze on September 24, 2024, 01:18:44 PM
Labour is not wealth from the way I understand what's wealth, even hard working is not also a wealth, but with good plans hard work can create a part for you to acquire wealth, not every hard working personnel or officer that have wealth, if you want to describe for solution for wealth I will say that wealth is all about someone concentration and focus in what you are doing, because if you don't get focus you will not active your dreams, so I know very well that we have to be focused we have to understand that different things contribute for wealth not Labour

Wealth depends on us to create it ourselves, in the sense that we need to make a serious effort so that what we want can be achieved with the hope that in the future it can be realized and implemented well, and it is important to think more positively.
actually you're right but I know very well that wealth depends on creativity and management sometimes what makes people not to know that you can make wealth, the impact you create gives you wealth, if you create negative impact for yourself with zero management you will not obtain wealth but if you are positive in whatever you're doing and manage it well you will have more wealth so what I believe is what is all about your arrangement and sittings for your business and establishment


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Nothingtodo on September 24, 2024, 03:26:16 PM
Labour for me is human productive effort towards achieving set target.To answer the question, labour may be wealth, in the sense that when others labour while you fold your harms and watch from where will the wealth come from? Wealth creation cannot be separated from human effort  both mental and  physical.
If you take a good look at the economy of these countries, America and China, you will see how strong their man power is. The development of a country mainly depends on the labor force, the country and nation that are hardworking can develop very easily. Countries that have large populations earn millions of dollars a year by exporting workers.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Mr.sprin on September 24, 2024, 05:22:27 PM
Wealth depends on us to create it ourselves, in the sense that we need to make a serious effort so that what we want can be achieved with the hope that in the future it can be realized and implemented well, and it is important to think more positively.

A person's wealth is different, sometimes people are rich in wealth but they are poor in heart, there are also rich in heart but they are poor in terms of wealth, the worst are people who are poor in wealth and poor in heart, rich people who have a lot of wealth and shops everywhere will develop more if they humanize their workers or their workforce, but rich people who are poor at heart will find it difficult to develop if their workforce does not feel happy in the place where they work, indeed we have to strive for wealth with full obstacles and challenges, We must also think positively and then develop creative ideas so that we can achieve success and receive wealth from the results of our own hard work.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: wmaurik on September 25, 2024, 04:55:46 AM
If you take a good look at the economy of these countries, America and China, you will see how strong their man power is. The development of a country mainly depends on the labor force, the country and nation that are hardworking can develop very easily. Countries that have large populations earn millions of dollars a year by exporting workers.
There is no need to be surprised by this because the residents of the two countries you mentioned are residents who do have the intention to work and try to make their country more advanced by helping the government in realizing this. Because when all the people in the country are seen to be more prosperous through the efforts they have made so far, of course the country will look advanced and more developed in terms of economy so that people in other countries also need to follow in such footsteps as long as this is still very possible to do.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Princeeibn on September 25, 2024, 11:21:38 AM
Labour for me is human productive effort towards achieving set target.To answer the question, labour may be wealth, in the sense that when others labour while you fold your harms and watch from where will the wealth come from? Wealth creation cannot be separated from human effort  both mental and  physical.

You’ve hit the nail on the head! Wealth is indeed a result of human effort, whether it's physical labor or mental creativity. The idea that wealth can magically appear without any form of labor is a myth. Even those who seem to "watch from the sidelines" have often put in their share of hard work or are leveraging the efforts of others through investments or strategic planning.

True wealth creation requires effort, dedication, and a mindset focused on achieving set targets. It’s a process where every bit of labor, no matter how small, contributes to the bigger picture. At the end of the day, it's the combined human effort—be it physical, mental, or both—that drives wealth creation and growth.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: liasbaa on September 25, 2024, 12:30:59 PM
Labour for me is human productive effort towards achieving set target.To answer the question, labour may be wealth, in the sense that when others labour while you fold your harms and watch from where will the wealth come from? Wealth creation cannot be separated from human effort  both mental and  physical.
If you take a good look at the economy of these countries, America and China, you will see how strong their man power is. The development of a country mainly depends on the labor force, the country and nation that are hardworking can develop very easily. Countries that have large populations earn millions of dollars a year by exporting workers.

Yes a country can earn a lot of foreign exchange by exporting labor. If a country has sufficient population, they are not skilled, the government of that country should take adequate action plan to make them skilled. Many underdeveloped countries use this method to turn their manpower into public resources.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: uche6215 on September 25, 2024, 11:20:09 PM
There's a link between labour and wealth, infact wealth is directly proportional to the amount of labour that you put into into a particular task

The easiest way to make money is through labour and your abilities to work, labour translate to wealth at the long run infact there is this popular saying that labour is the pillar of success so the explication is that the foundation up on which success is built on is labour, so labour is wealth at if anyone wants to become rich in the future then that person needs to labour


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Yukyzu on September 26, 2024, 12:33:17 AM
There's a link between labour and wealth, infact wealth is directly proportional to the amount of labour that you put into into a particular task

The easiest way to make money is through labour and your abilities to work, labour translate to wealth at the long run infact there is this popular saying that labour is the pillar of success so the explication is that the foundation up on which success is built on is labour, so labour is wealth at if anyone wants to become rich in the future then that person needs to labour

To be able to do hard work, good skills are needed in the field of work that we do and without skills that we can master well it is very unlikely that someone will be able to get good results from the work they do so anyone who does hard work must have good skills and also must be patient from every process that they must go through because without patience it is very unlikely that they will be successful in the field of work they do and can accumulate wealth and it is also very important for those who want to be rich to have good financial management because without being able to manage their income of course they will use more of their wealth on unimportant things so it is difficult for them to become rich.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: EarnOnVictor on September 26, 2024, 10:04:49 AM
Labour is not wealth from the way I understand what's wealth, even hard working is not also a wealth, but with good plans hard work can create a part for you to acquire wealth, not every hard working personnel or officer that have wealth, if you want to describe for solution for wealth I will say that wealth is all about someone concentration and focus in what you are doing, because if you don't get focus you will not active your dreams, so I know very well that we have to be focused we have to understand that different things contribute for wealth not Labour
Thank you for this and I tell you emphatically that you are valid with this point, the OP misrepresented fact and I wonder how it can ever translate to wealth. Hard or soft labour, if you will be poor, you will be poor, and again, hard or soft labour, if you would be wealthy, you would be wealthy. As the two classes engage in the same size of labour, the two main things that would have differentiated them are their smartness/creativity and the resources at their disposal.

If you have the two positively, you can labour less and still be more productive, and this productivity will easily amass your wealth for you. But if you have them in a small amount, I'm sorry, there is no way you can be wealthy, unless you are just lucky. I've seen enough hard workers that remain very poor, and I've seen enough smart workers that you will not even know they work at all living in wealth and even using it to control other people to labour for them.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: Unity for Humanity on September 26, 2024, 11:38:16 AM
Labor comes in many forms, physical labor and mental labor are closely related. An engineer uses his mental labor to build the structure of a large apartment and the physical form of that structure we can see through physical labor. That is, if the masons do not pour concrete according to that structure, then the building will never be visible. But we socially respect an engineer as much as we respect a day laborer but it should be done.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: NurseHub on September 27, 2024, 03:20:51 PM
Yes, we can say labor is wealth.

When you emphasize the ideal that hard work and effort are essential for making wealth and success, putting more effort and diligently, you are likely to achieve your goals and build your future.

The wealth is the value of working hard that has been deducted from your work. Remaining consistent in labor can lead to a positive, prosperous outcome in the future.

In a situation where 2 people are working in an
organization and one person is multiple taxing by working in the forum and has been working so hard, putting all his energy to the forum and participating in everything working to generate good post-share ideas, which is the labor added to his other activities is actually generating more than the other, differently he will become wealthy on like the person relaxing and waiting on government payment alone. 


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: redsun114 on September 27, 2024, 06:39:40 PM
Labour for me is human productive effort towards achieving set target.To answer the question, labour may be wealth, in the sense that when others labour while you fold your harms and watch from where will the wealth come from? Wealth creation cannot be separated from human effort  both mental and  physical.
If you take a good look at the economy of these countries, America and China, you will see how strong their man power is. The development of a country mainly depends on the labor force, the country and nation that are hardworking can develop very easily. Countries that have large populations earn millions of dollars a year by exporting workers.
Yes a country can earn a lot of foreign exchange by exporting labor. If a country has sufficient population, they are not skilled, the government of that country should take adequate action plan to make them skilled. Many underdeveloped countries use this method to turn their manpower into public resources.
There is no doubt few countries are already doing good in this and having good advantage of their system which is producing good number of skilled workers which are giving them good funds, and they are bringing changes into their structure and having good development with this money but sadly still things are going good for few countries with many are wasting their manpower as they are not bringing changes into their domestic system for having skills and better things for their countries.

As a country labour is surely big wealth which can change the fortune of countries as they can take good foreign reserve which is currently most important for having things and bringing more technology which is essential for the development of country and having better life for the common peoples of every country.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: wmaurik on September 29, 2024, 12:35:20 PM
Yes a country can earn a lot of foreign exchange by exporting labor. If a country has sufficient population, they are not skilled, the government of that country should take adequate action plan to make them skilled. Many underdeveloped countries use this method to turn their manpower into public resources.
This is one of the efforts that must be made by the government of each country if they want their citizens to be smarter and more attractive to other countries in terms of more competent human resources. However, apart from that which must be an important point for the government, other things also need to be considered by the government such as a good economic sector and also an adequate level of infrastructure development to facilitate access for its citizens when they want to do something or want to learn about something more useful.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: SmartGold01 on September 29, 2024, 01:43:53 PM
Labour for me is human productive effort towards achieving set target.To answer the question, labour may be wealth, in the sense that when others labour while you fold your harms and watch from where will the wealth come from? Wealth creation cannot be separated from human effort  both mental and  physical.
Sorry to say labor doesn't really defines wealth but skills and qualifications is mostly subjected to wealth creation. I have seen those who labour and got employed yet their salaries didn't create wealth for them rather it's only create a semi payment channels to keep you earnings while you sort out your emergence need at the moment. So, to me wealth comes entirely from your creativity such as discovery or invention of things can make you easily wealthy than labour, although labor can be termed as the general classifications, because as one is putting efforts to produce a specific results is also known to be labor. Therefore, effort, skills and creativity or invention can be termed to be a process of labouring.


Title: Re: Is labour wealth?
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on October 01, 2024, 08:22:50 AM

If you have an orientation that labor is a physical force at work, it will not bring you wealth, just like laborers, factory employees and others who are called manual labor, you will find your point of view on this, but if you see labor as a factor that must be included in building wealth and mentality and also a smart brain in business, of course labor becomes very important to be included in the formula, we may need to ask if the business owner is not labor? of course I would call it labor, but independent labor for his own business.

If you ask this businessman who was able to organize his business, then in most cases, we will hear that it was created by hard work. It is unlikely that someone who suddenly received a large sum of money (inheritance or winnings, for example) will be able to properly organize his future business. It is not necessary to call physical labor hard work. To get a good education, and sometimes more than one, people work much more mentally if you take into account the number of hours spent on textbooks. Therefore, I would say that yes, labor is a business that brings profit; this can be designated as wealth. The difference is that everyone decides for himself what kind of work and what amount of profit is wealth for him.