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I want to ask everyone interested in the topic of betting a question: are you developing as a betting player? Now I don't mean casino games that are completely dependent on luck. I write about sports and other bets in which you can make a profit in the long term, although it is very difficult and the percentage of such players is very small.
 I also ask that those who “play for fun” not take part in the discussion. Such people, in my opinion, have little valuable to say on this topic.
 If you take your entire gaming history, would you say that you have learned anything during this time?
In other words, are you progressing as a player? Is your strategy improving? Is the quality of risk management and money management improving? Have you learned to control your emotions? Are your winning statistics stable? Do losses keep you out of the game? Have you learned to recover from losses? Are you getting better at predicting the results of sports matches?

You've got lots of questions right there. Anyway, it's more or less the same for me as far as strategy is concerned. It has always been analyzing who's likely to win and who's likely to loss vis-à-vis the worthiness of the odds. On the other hand, I've always been trying to keep my gambling account's balance minimal. This way, I won't be spending much due to impulsive betting. Pre-fight bets aren't a problem with me. It's when I'm trying to catch the best odds while watching the game live that's when I often encounter problems.

I used to until I got to a point where I was making a regular income of several hundred a month and that's where I stopped. With how hard the field is, it was not worth the effort-reward of trying to climb higher. Now for some time I have been playing less as in the end you get a little bored because it is always the same, especially due to variance. If playing poker was like writing here, which has no variance, I think I would play more hours but my finances are pretty good today (I have been cultivating them for years).

It is a question that only makes sense, as you mention, in skill games.

That's a lot of questions but I will try to answer some of them.
Yes, I have learned to control myself but there will always be a time when emotions get the better of me and I keep on depositing because of the ease of payment options. If as a gambler we call "control" as progress then I guess it is progress in my case. Money management for me is when you will be able to stop when your brain tells you to stop even if you have the means to deposit again. I've learned that the hard way after losing a lot of money and some money that is intended for something important.
I don't think emotions can be controlled easily, there will always be that tendency where we weren't able to control it but we must at least resist the temptation to make more deposits.

No, winning had been hard this week. Yes, losses keep me out of the game especially if I feel like I've been wasting too much time and money on it. I have not yet bet consecutive games in sports because I am waiting for the NBA to start again. I will try to record everything once it starts again.

Betting and gambling should be for fun and not for making money because people that think of gambling to make money are more vulnerable to losses and gambling addiction.

There is just little strategies to follow before you stake on a match. There is nothing to improve about that. Any match that you stake on can be won or lost even if you stake on a strong team to win an underdog, the underdog might draw the match or win. Betting is luck despite that you analyze the match.

Know that most people that are betting are losing.

As a matter of fact I'm a "digital" person in a sense my left brain hemisphere functions better that the right one. As a consequence  I'm better in logic and mathematics than in activities relevant to creativity. However being involved into gambling for more than 10 years I have noticed recently that my intuition and holistic thinking ( which help in roulette gambling)    have been developed significantly. Thus, my response is positive.

As much as I bet for fun, I don't keep track of how stable these winnings are just that I play without thinking about records.
Regarding progress as a player, of course from before to now there has been a little progress in analyzing strategies, risk management, stricter discipline, responsibility.
All of that is learned here with some previous discussions by observing many things about better betting, but I never think this should be profitable, this remains as fun.

I believed that if a players or a bettor should progress, there could be a circumstances that really change his behavior. Like for example, he doesn't have the means to gamble anymore as the money is not coming into his way just like before.

So he will have to reduce his gambling habits to always 0 and then later on when he had gotten back, got a good job or something maybe he won't gamble as he was before. In short, he has evolved and could have matured already. So maybe a few bets here and there, but not going to be addicted or bet huge amount of money.

Your questions are not suitable for an idealistic gambler, gambling should not be for a living. All bettors want to win their bets besides the main goal of entertainment, and therefore they must gain experience, so both ideal gamblers & pragmatic gamblers should have progress.

I spend most of my bets on sports betting, so i think i'm better suited to answer your last question. Do i get better predictions over time? of course, i'm more familiar with the characteristics of a competition or league. For example, don't make over bets on the Egyptian or Algerian leagues, and don't make under bets on leagues in Scandinavian countries.

You just have to bet on what you think who will win, regardless of the odds. Because I see bettors, like in sports betting that if they don't like the odds then they will not go and bet. And then later complain that they should have won if they point some money on it. Regardless of how little it will be, still a lunch money if you put your bet there.


Strategies will improved overtime, you learn how to play without your emotions, because sometimes we get carried away specially if you are in the losing side and we wanted to chase. But as you improved, you might not go and deposit for more. Might call it a day and just wait tomorrow, maybe it's going to be very different for you, if could be that you can win and recover that earlier losses. Definitely, if you follow that sports and then you have betting for years, at least you have the advantages in predicting the outcome and win.

What you think is a progress or improvement to you is totally different from how I view progress. I used to be an impulsive sport bettor back then when I was in the university. I played lots of games but only won a few games. I was partly in it for fun and partly for the money but the rate at which I gambled was not healthy.

Right now, alot about my gambling habit has changed greatly and I am super grateful for the efforts I put in to still remain a "sane person ". I no longer gamble like I used to in the past and when I decide to gamble, I do not exceed my limits no matter the pressure to do more. This is a good improvement on my personality as a sports bettor. I may not be getting all the money I should be getting from bets but defeating that strong urge to gamble all day is a great improvement to my person.

Nope, I didn't want to spend too much time for entertainment, so there's no progress or improvement in gambling. I'd choose to spend my time to learn something that could increase my income or hanging out with new people to increase my relation.

If I only focus to gamble and being friend with gamblers, I would be stuck and there's no progress for me to achieve something big.

In the end, I'm in loss.

The aspect where I can say that I've grown evidently is the part of loss management and how I go about recovering what I've lost most in a bet. At the initial stage when I started off, the mentality is that I must always win when I go out to bet and sometimes I could go with an amount that's even my last cash thinking I can easily double it up and use it to get myself somethings. The hard reality is that it never ends well and I had to add it to my lesson portfolio for bet betting decision. Now, I don't use any money that I'm using for something important to bet. I could also say that because I've grown my income above what it used to be, it has helped me to be more matured with how much I put into betting and I haven't been too aggressive like at the start but that's just with respect to the amount used.

As per my development and growth with regards my choice of games and the numbers I play per time, I've learned to stick to fewer numbers of games on a slip and stake with a bigger amount that playing multiple slips with smaller and rational amount, it's just likely that it's not my thing but I've learned that choosing fewer games works better for me so I just stick with it.

Before getting to know gambling, I didn't really like Poker either in land-based casinos or hanging out with friends. But as time goes by, continuously visiting online casinos now inevitably starts to become interested in playing poker, there are many lessons that can be learned, especially how to play effectively, apply careful strategies and stay calm. Even though I'm completely unskilled and lose more often than I win. However without realizing it, I started learning money management, controlling emotions evaluating every defeat and trying to find new methods on several poker channels from professional people.

If the left cerebral part of the brain is functioning than the right part, that means the person uses more of his right side limbs most. Like his hand and leg. In short, it means the person is a right handed person. I noticed in school that almost all students that are were using left to write were good in mathematics. I was not surprised when I saw some researches about it. I think you want to post that your right cerebral is more active. There is other part of the brain hemisphere that are not cerebrum, although the cerebrum takes the largest portion of the brain in mass which is 85% of the human brain.

Irrespective of someone being a mathematician or not, I still believe that casinos are games of chance and luck.

In general I can boldly say that, I’m getting better with my gambling and I don’t even think I would ever be an addict because I’m already mastering the skill of knowing when to stop and when to take a break.
Over the time, I would say that, my entire story and journey in the gambling industry is already a very great and interesting one because I’m already seeing growth and actual improvements from predictions to risk management to being able to withdraw and having a budget for my gambling has been key areas I’ve focused on and frankly I’m a better person when it comes to gambling.

So yes I’m improving in almost all spheres of my life as with regards to gambling.

Bets unlike casino games requires some amount of calculations and strategies to analyze matches. You need to have some knowledge about the two teams that wants to compete and from there you can analyze and decide which team that you think will win a match. I will say that I've improved in my analysis when it comes to predicting the outcome of matches, also while interecting with other bettors I've also increased my technical knowledge. Although despite the experiences that a gambler can gather, the match can still go against your bet, so there's no perfection in gambling, no matter how you develop yourself.

I don't know how someone will developed or progressed though, I mean it's gambling, we bet on the unknown, so have can be control everything when we don't know what is the outcome of our bets? Maybe others will say that in sports betting, their skills have been honed because of years of experienced. But still though, we really can't say that we have gain that experienced to say that we become expert or not in that field. We might recover some of our losses, but still it's the same outcome most of the time, either we take a L or take a W. Maybe we think that we are getting better in predictions, but there could be outcome that it totally unpredictable and that is the very definition of gambling.

For me I will say that right from day 1 I have be very careful about the funds I use in gambling, despite how tempting it could be, I have been trying my best to maintain my limit because I understand the dangers involved when I go off my limit, in the aspect of strategy am one of those people that does not believe that gambling has a strategy, whether casino or sports bets I don't concur to such notion that gambling in general has stregy that needed to mastered by gamblers in other to be successful in it.
I wouldn't say am losing much or winning much because of the amount I use in gambling, I use an amount that I can easily let go, although no matter how it looks once we lose money irrespective of the amount, it is always painful but personally my loss and winning is in balanced form, as for predicting the outcome of sport games as you said, it is very difficult to get an accurate prediction considering many things, but sometimes matches ends according to my predicts but that doesn't make me a guru because there aren't any guru in sports match predictions in general.

Yes I have learned a few things and one of them is to keep learning, keep your eyes peeled. The betting community is vast and many things are to explore. I keep learning about the matches I watch as well as the opinion of others both experts in the field and just mere fans.

Knowledge is power when it comes to betting especially sports.

This is an important sole searching question for gamblers. Yes it is important and evaluating for gamblers. This is about the strategy that works or not and how we have been able to handle the realistic part of what we are doing with the strategy we use, like some gamblers have refused to change from what is not working for them and they believe luck is not just on their side for the mean time. Thus, they keep playing with a strategy that is not working and hoping they will get the winning someday when their own luck shines. Also there are gamblers who have realised the need for them to change from what is not working to test on what will work and follow from it. Hence, I know a gambler who believes only on betting on draws, to him nothing is wrong with that but what is wrong is that he bet on multiple draw games. So imagine betting on 10 draws on a slip  ;D ::) and most times he gets 3/4 draws from the slip correctly. So the good part of his gambling journey and draw strategy for now is that he has agreed to shift ground to betting in singles and few draws and he is better with winning for now unlike before.

What matters is how we can identify and agree on what is not working to what is working for our games. Basically, I don't believe in multiple bets rather I believe take few bets at a time.

IMO, making a profit in the long term is very difficult although sometimes successive wins come but after that the surprise happens destroys the parlay bet. So I would say if I didn't develop into one of the bettors.

Maybe I've been learning all this time to try to break a record getting a profit from odds @50+ but the fact that I'm still failing hasn't been able to get something special for this time in sports betting and can only get a profit less than @10

Yeah, of course I've been making progress all this time but only half of the goal I wanted to get the odds higher than I said before.

Compared to before, frankly, my strategy has progressed in terms of self control and budget management for gambling, but in the case of other strategies, maybe I still look bad.

Regarding the winning statistics, for the moment it looks stable and I compare from the overall bet my only a few losses and still a little profitable.

No, I always bet very carefully without betting all in just one bet. In other words I always bet in small amounts to appreciate the budget I have to gamble. So, even though I lost 1 or 2 times, I was still able to bet.

Never did that.

Certainly not. Sometimes my predictions improve and give me successive gains, but sometimes they fail, so that some of the bets I make don't give me any gains or losses.

Anyone who have been actively engaging in sports betting and have endured for at least three seasons is definitely making progress. It may not be that he has had outstanding winnings but being able to manage the finances in such a way that one remain in the business without being frustrated is what I consider a big progress. Within that period of time, the gambler would have been able to develop a winning strategy that makes him have winnings sometimes even though not that big.

I have been able to work out a system for myself that gives me winning often but due to the amount I used, the winning is not that big because the total odds is usually 5 and below. I combine some selected teams that score many goals and place one bet over2.5 and another over3.5. The good thing with this system is that the win rate is around 60% and this is fair.  I got this strategy after testing so many things that did not work for me.

That's not just a question, those are multiple questions.  ;D

Anyway, to get started, yes, I feel I have been developing as a player or as a bettor because just like everything else, you tend to learn the ways of making your bets more effectively and with a higher winning percentage after you spend some time in the industry.

When I first started making bets on sports events, I already had enough knowledge about the sports that I picked, so that wasn't a problem for me, I used to choose sides that I knew had a higher chance of winning the game, and I used to win some, but initially, I wasn't very good at creating a betting strategy, which means that I wasn't planning my bets properly, just throwing some here and some there, some wins and some losses, etc.

But now that I have improved, I try to do everything properly, count the winning and losing odds, have a count of how much I have won or lost and make my next bets accordingly.

One of the greatest battle i have had to fight to get to evolve from has been that with emotions, some times i make my analysis due to the fact that i have been able to gather some experience as a gambler all this years but then it happens that i still get to struggle with it at some point and still not get it perfectly right. when it has to do with gambling the fact that i keep hoping to make more money at almost every point get some wanting to keep trying and at some point when the uncertainties happens i get emotional and then try to stake higher with the mind of recovery.

so far from my experience, i have seen that i will definitely get better if I'm able to get pas the issues of emotion management as it turns out to be one of the biggest challenge that i have been facing as a gambler because literally its main emotional reactions that gat me taking some actions at some points in time.

For you to continue playing and not lose a lot of money, you need to improve and adapt to every situation that comes along the way. You have to be updated with the sports that you are betting on, control your emotions, and not resort to chasing losses.
Gambling has a lot of risks attached to it; being aware of these risks is very important so you will not lose a lot of money, and you can continue as long as you like without harming your finances and your state of mind.

I have learned to only gamble with what I can afford to lose because gambling is an unpredictable game.

I have gained more experience as a player and have been able to use my gambling budget to achieve my gambling objectives.
 
As a young gambler, I made some mistakes but I have learned to have a budget that helps me to reduce the risk of losing a sum that will affect my finances. Since I gamble with what I can afford to lose

I don't experience any emotional issues if I lose. I have also learned not to be overwhelmed by my win. Some people get too overexcited when they win and frustrated when they experience losses. But I have learned to balance by experiences to avoid excessive reactions.

Although I don't keep accurate records of my gambling activities, however, I can assume that my losses are not greater than my wins.

If I experience consistent losses for a long time, I usually take a break to enable me to consider a new gambling strategy.

Gambling is unpredictable and there is no reliable winning strategy. Having a strategy to recover losses can lead to loss chasing. I don't have any means of recovering losses other than doing extra jobs.

I have a better understanding of the sports bets industry and I have also improved in match analysis and predictions. But sometimes my forecast is wrong which leads to losses.

I have voted No and here is why. During last 10-15 years, nothing has changed much in my gambling habit. Long time ago, I have learned all popular game rules from movie, youtube, watching others play. I still place bets offline, when I watch the game live. I still bet on «team to win», instead of betting on number of corners, cards, offsides, face-off and etc. For a quick game, I still prefer Dice, Mines and Crash, and slots with fruits for any relaxation. I still dont bet much, nor place risky bets. Just a regular gambler that dont expect much to win. Also one of the reasons why I dont develop as a player/gambler - not aiming to to that, as my gambling routine suits me just fine.

 I think most people just keep saying they play for fun to cover their emotions just when they lose. Lol we gamble to make the profits. Imagine if there wasn't any profit fir gambling, it won't be as popular as it is now. When I started gambling, I started with local sports betting. Then I just made little bets fr my favorite teams and luckly sometimes I gets good odds to win. Since then I've had so many large wins from sport betting which Im happy about. Upon joining this forum I became much familiar with online casino gambling. At first I just try playing on demo till I understood it and had experience. Now I can proudly call my self a casino player. I'm still learning though I only always gamble due to my busy schedules.

Development means growth and growth means progress. Something positive. The years of experience you have gambling in my estimation would be proportional to your growth if the gambler is a person who is goal and purpose oriented. In my earlier gambling years, especially when there is a football tournament, I used to bet on every game. I had no strategy to manage risk. And even when I lost which was pretty frequent, I had no strategy to recover from the losses. However, that has stopped. Over the years I have improved my strategies, and stopped chasing losses through reading articles, interactions with gamblers and learning from them. I stopped betting on every football game. I can say that I have developed as a gambler.

Then you should have made this thread moderated, but even those playing for fun can take risks and have something to say about your questions
I still play the games I'm playing, so I have to learn and catch up with my analysis so I will not lose more money.
Yes, I'm still following games I'm betting, analyzing the players and the team so I can make a competitive bet, the strategy is to check the statistics and performances of the team and players.
It's easy to control your emotions if you are guided by facts and statistics, with a few exceptions, facts and statistics play a major role in sports betting, and you have to keep improving in your analysis if you want to continue betting.

For me it's more of mixed feelings, because I've lost countlessly and I've won countlessly too, I do keep track of some of the games I've lost in the past because I try not to select those options again, at least for the once i could remember.

Going back memory lane, I would say a serious gamblers doesn't have one strategy, winning comes with a combination of different strategies, because no strategy is certain, I remember one time that i use to select very few football games so I can get just 2 odds, with that those 2 odds, I will give high stake on it, at first I was winning because the fewer the games the better your winning chances, after a long while that strategy  stopped working, even the least 1.5 single odds too will disappoint you. So I started adopting different approach and strategies on my betting skills over the years.

The only way I've learnt to control my emotions is by not taking any lost to heart, it's more like a normal thing to me now, because I already know that the games I've selected might not come out 100 percent the way i want, but along the line, if i see a significant cashout flash on my dashboard, I will just take it and try again next time.

When I first came to play poker, I liked the game and then decided that I would play every weekend.
So I got acquainted with all the rules, and decided to participate in the poker888 tournament. And I took 2nd place! I got 62 euros and it was cool.
Then I started watching poker streamers, and then developed an application for preflop training. It didn't make it to the top on Google Play, but it was an interesting experience.

Having fun doesn’t mean someone is not progressing. Fun is the main factor why you gamble since you will not pursue gambling just to get profit if you are not enjoying the game or else better to do a job.



I’m progressing in terms of how disciplined I am on betting. I never triggered now when I’m on losing streak which is always my problem before when I’m still not used to gambling.

In terms of winning percentage. It increased significantly because I rarely bet now on unfamiliar sports or sports that I didn’t watch. Losing many times in the past makes me progress to play safely and do calculated risk betting.

No. The strategy I use is fairly simple: look for oversized odds that don't match what I know/feel to be reality, based almost purely on recent stats and current form. e.g. Team A loses 50% of matches against Team B. Odds on Team A to lose then should be close to 2/1. Anything much bigger than that is value.

That strategy can't really improve, but can be tweaked.


Since I started betting on crypto, I set aside a budget per (football season). I typically don't redeposit new funds if I lose before the season ends. I do deposit for unexpected new events/competitions/promotions.

But with profits (unexpected ones especially) I don't manage that money well. Tend to lose it all quicker than I won it.


More or less. I don't over-deposit as I explained above but I do find it difficult to keep winnings. It's not too bad, though, I never intend to make money from gambling, it's just a nice bonus to have at the end of a season.


I don't think anyone can have stable statistics. It's the very nature of gambling that ensures you can't keep stable results. I am quite good at tracking though, most people don't. See my thread for 5 years keeping track of bets: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5011930

Show me one guy who does this for his strategy. I don't know any.


Losses no. Losing my deposit yes. No one should learn to recover losses, everyone should learn to have a limit.

And no one gets better at predicting results. That's why the house always wins (eventually).

Lately yes, I see developments in gambling, especially in sports betting, where this month I bet on having good statistics for wins, Maybe I succeeded in doing that by learning from my past experience, where I rarely took into account my opponent's statistics, so I often experienced setbacks in the gambling arena.

I have good predictions for now, so I can produce good winning numbers, even though the five bets I placed one lost, at least four bets produced good value, especially football betting, for that reason my emotions are stable and I can do all that, maybe my luck is currently good in sports betting.

I hope to maintain the current condition in betting, where I continue to hone my current experience in gambling, I hope my betting statistics continue to increase beyond what they are now.

I believe I haven’t, but in terms of personal growth, I think I am. I think it correlates with how I am as a person towards how I deal with gambling in the first place so whether or not it is about gambling as long as you are being diligent and who you are and know that you are going to be a better person from yesterday, I guess it will spill out onto gambling as well.

If this is the case, I think I Have developed a way to be more emotionally grounded and not be reactive.

So many questions but to mention a few. Let me share how progressive I have been since I started gambling.

Yeah, I think I am getting better day by day. I started poorly by not knowing what to look out for in sports betting, I had issues with emotional swings, and I had a big loss and tended to chase my money back with terrible bets.

With time I followed up with some sports analysts and I got to understand how to look at team stats, player injuries, past matches, and anything that would give me a clue to look at, (specifically sports betting). Now I try to stick to my plan and budget, even if I lose a few in a row. I believe that losses happen, but I got to learn the cause and adjust.

Honestly, every gambler who has been gambling for a long time would have been developing positively, sometimes they get too nice, but some are not even aware of the improvements because they are synced with it by now. At least in developing and not just throwing money away online in the name of gambling.

For progress in gambling, I wouldn't say I have gone far in it since my gambling losses are higher than my winnings. On that note, I wouldn't say I am making progress in gambling since there is little of winning and more of losing. Although the money I spent on gambling is still little. I have been holding on to that for a long, I would call that progress because I have learned to do it for a long, not to gamble more than 5% of my weekly income. That kinda mindset is still stuck in me.

Other questions you asked, so long as you don't keep records of your gambling takes, and you don't gamble as many times in a week or month, you can't for say how progressive you have been all this while in gambling since there will be many losses to experience and how you have learned to gamble with the money you can afford to lose

If you are into gambling but you are not interested in playing casino but you are interested in sports betting then I definitely welcome you because I also like to bet on sports.  Casino is based on luck so there is not much opportunity to apply your own skills but when we bet with a team but of course our skills and experience will be evaluated. If we have enough knowledge about sports then surely we will bet in favor of stronger team in betting and we will definitely have more chances of winning there. If you don't have much experience with different teams in sports betting then you can follow different leagues regularly for a few days and then when you have a good idea about different teams you can continue with sports betting.

I think sports bet have some sort of advantage over casinos and fully harnessed can result in rapid growth. For instance, the bettor can now chose from many options such as 3ways, handicap, corners, players to score, goal range and many other easy options. You must not bet direct win but can explore other easy options. Consequently, I feel anyone who settles down to analyze the matches will be able to win, if not consistently but to some extent so that staking power can be returned to avoid the pain of losing everything and requiring to continually deposit to be able to bet. Anyone not making progress can easily switch system of playing, instead of direct  wins, 3ways or even goal range or corners can be explored. This is the flexibility that sports bet offer that are not available in casinos.  

Yes, there is an improvement in my betting games because I have learn a lot of things from other gamblers mistakes that make me to start earning money from betting games, but I don't use to play with big money which I like it in that way to stay long in betting.

Even though, I develop to be a good player in the betting, I don't think I will bet above $10 or $20 a day because I don't want anything that will make other people to learn from my mistakes in the gambling center because I know how to use small amount of money to win in the gambling, which I use to watch football games to know strong teams and weak teams. It has been long, I activated that emotion in my gambling, never to gamble above my budget no matter the winning or loosing in the gambling because I know how to control my emotion not to experience regret in gambling.

I think people who say no is only want to being humble or they didn't really notice it.

You don't have to be a regular gambler, but if you still gambling occasionally or rarely, from time to time you're always improve even though it's just small. You will be familiar how to play the game, how to enjoy it and how to control your emotion.

Improvement isn't always about financial aspect.

Well, the many things that you mentioned like money management, risk management, control of emotions etc, all these things should be in a gambler no matter he is gambling in a casino or as a sports bet, these qualities are needed in a gambler to have minimum risks and maximum output from gambling.
These are the skills that every gambler should develop and then when it comes to sports betting then you need to further analyse the matches and players before placing bets. Still, with all these analyses you can lose bets but if you have above mentioned skills with you, you will never be in a big loss.

Player is not the appropriate word cause it's someone who play the game but it should be as bettor cause we are doing nothing but betting cause there's difference between playing and betting.

I don't play soccer but I developed interest during FIFA so I developed my knowledge regarding the game which actually let me to make better analysis and that's what it's should be too.

Not spending a lot of money in gambling, I will not force it if there is nothing more, therefore only a small percentage is used for gambling because I know that it is only for fun so I will do as much as I can, so I cannot interpret about progress because I do not observe it.

During 1 season of sports betting I felt better in winning because some of the odds that were bet more won before maybe it could be said to be 60/40, but unfortunately when EURO 2024 was a lot of chaos it meant that there was no progress in betting because it lost more than won, considering that in this tournament there were many surprises that we never expected.

Although not expecting more profit but a little upset is always there, while to pursue this recovery is never done because it already knows it will definitely lose.

The number of players are small because you probably stay where casino games are more dominating than other type of gambling. Here, we have more people who play betting more than any other type of gambling that ever exist and they win frequently and lose few times but majority ofcourse lose due to the nature of gambling, you can't get everything all the time.


My strategy as a bettor has improved, I can't compare my current status in betting like the days when I started betting. When I count the games I play in a week, many will be losses and small wins but today i can say that my losses are minimal and what I have gained from gambling is far bigger than what I have made. However, I have notice that strategy of a season different from one another. What you use this season will not work for another season but I'm alwsys improving.

I am improving as a gambler in managing my bankroll properly because I was once an addict and now I have self control over my gambling activities and there is a time limit when I am gambling.

Gambling have helped me to become a regular fan of football because I watch most matches that I am interested in betting on and from there it gives me experience of the game in future. In gambling it is more of luck and I don't think that there is any strategy that one will come up with that will make him always win more than he losses no matter how long he has being gambling, if not a lot of old gamblers would have be rich by now.

The difference between an old gambler and a new gambler is that the old gambler gamble for fun and only use the amount of money that he can afford to lose but the new gamblers are looking more different strategies to make profit.

Well, let's talk about gambling without the frills of having fun. obviously we've learned a lot over time when it comes to betting, especially sports. As our understanding often increases, we certainly know more relevant ways to bet. but still, the method remains research and analysis, regardless of whether we use intuition or instinct in choosing matches or battles. Based on my experience from time to time, we will learn a lot from experience when assessing a match, especially if it involves betting. Unfortunately, I can't claim to always win every bet I make even though our understanding of betting strategies is growing wider. I have no idea of ​​risk management, no ideal options to speak of in this discussion. because, everything is at risk when we are involved in a bet. I mean, if you don't win you lose.
But if we talk about win or loss statistics, it's the same in sports. Often we get victory after victory, but not infrequently we experience successive failures even though we have researched and analyzed them. So, there is nothing certain about the statistics. but one thing we must always involve, experience, understanding, knowledge and also equally important is controlling emotions. speaking of emotions, emotions are the most vulnerable part of us bettors.

Talking about predictions, actually the difficult part is determining the betting options. because if we only predict a match, it can be studied with research and analysis, even though the results are not certain. However, the betting options are very variable. If we bet on the 1×2 option, most of the odds are not ideal, especially if the choice is superior. The point is, we must carefully choose the option that is most relevant to the money we are risking.

Yes, definitely a lot that I've learned. With all of those wins and losses, those have taught me a lot of things especially on how to be a patient person.

I'd say all of that with a yes. Everything to me has improved as a player, as a bettor and as a person because of the patience that it has taught me. I'm now using it to my personal matters for which has made me a better person because I can also apply the risk management to investing as well.

Not at all, in fact I've got more losses but that's fine for me as I know how it's going and I don't put it on my heart and so I keep on going with games that I like to bet.

Yes. But I understood that it's not always a good thing to do.

I'd say I have improved but not at my peak.

Sports betting is a game of analysis and learning about fighters and teams. If you're just betting for the sake of betting, then sports betting is not for you, To enjoy and benefit from sports betting, you have to develop your strategy and your method and become a better bettor.

Sports betting has an element of luck, but its it depends on how you come up with your decision and how you develop your analysis, You may not be 100% sure of your bet, but your input in your analysis should improve as you continue playing.

I started gambling on sport games (soccer) even before I finally starting betting on some casino games. When I first started, I would be so expectant of only profit rather than thinking of loses too, I get upset about my losses and settle on the mood for so long but as time processed, I learn to control my emotions and also learned to stake with the amount of money I can only afford to lose, like that, I don't get to worry my head too much for the losses because it was just a small amount.

I have improved in my gambling habit, not as tho, it makes me profitable all the time but I was such a bad bettor when I started compare to now.

I’ll answer a few questions. Yes, I’ve become more blind and don’t give in to emotions like I did a few years ago. There are fewer bets on sports; if I used to bet on a city club, now I only bet on national games, and it’s not always easier to control the outcome of an event as always there are more details and information on the opponent. I bet on boxing only on one athlete, and since he competes 1-2 times a year, this event is expected and exciting every time, this is better than betting on average boxers, since this is a duck for the sake of betting before.

I’m definitely not developing as a player. I used to only make smart bets to further my enjoyment of sporting events. Now I find myself yeeting money on slot machines with the hopes of hitting a 25,000x win. Granted I only play with money I’m expecting to lose, so it is never a big deal, but I could see how people could start chasing a dream with money they shouldn’t be.

Yes, I would say that I have learned a lot in the time I have been involved with gambling, it took a lot of mistakes for me to understand some things, and thanks to these mistakes I was able to improve, but this improvement does not make me a great gambler, yet I continue to lose in most of the bets I have made, with time I ended up getting used to defeats. they are part of the game


progressing in the game and improving at the game, I think these are words that all players would like to see come true, the fact is that the more we play the more we lose, games are to be seen just as fun, although there are cases of people who have been lucky to come away with profits, but even so, whenever we play, we should not set high expectations


This is a point where I took it very seriously to improve, because I consider it very important to know how to manage money


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I confess that this part is actually funny for me, because when I place my bets I don't feel sad when I lose, in the same way that I don't jump when I get it right, so I have good control over my emotions, but there are some scenarios where they leave me a little angry, especially when there are games in which I bet on a certain team to win because that team is much superior to the opponent, but at the end of the game that team loses, this makes me feel a little angry


Losses definitely don't make me desperate to the point of thinking about chasing losses, I don't make that kind of mistake


yes I am improving, looking at my past performance and the performance I have had today, I can see that I am improving

Yes, this is a little progress as a player who bets, because a lot of experience happened here, of course after that I saw a lot of progress in what I did in betting.

My own version is better to apply some strategies in betting.

This is the most important thing to manage money management will be better and I always think about risk, but this is a bet sometimes you have to put aside the loss.

Of course, if you do not learn to control your emotions, you will lose more money in betting because you are not in control.

Didn't see the winning statistics, but I feel it's pretty good these days.

If you lose the bet stop, continue after the bankroll is replenished.

Not chasing losses.

Yes now is better for last season's league matches because it always analyzes every match.

So far I have learned to cultured myself in my gambling activity I am not only gambling to increase my income but sometimes spare some free cash to catch cruise otherwise could be affected emotionally, mentally and physically. It only when you take gambling as job, hobby and occupation you would see yourself going the wrong way and side because this could also bring desperacy as someone who doesn't have alternative of income.

This is actually a really good/interesting question.  I have definitely developed as a gambler as time has gone on.  When I first starting doing sports betting (mainly NFL football) I was making all sorts of newbie mistake.  Just silly stuff.  But as time has gone on I've been able to recognize those mistakes and correct them.  It's just the age old adage goes, "practice makes perfect".  I'm certainly not perfect, but I tend to improve year to year.

Yes I have develops as a gambler and I can say I have improved from when I started gambling to now I am currently playing. Before I could lose many games in a row and still will not be able to make a profit regardless of the games I am playing. It could be casino games or sport games but I will not be able to make the amount of profits I am getting now. Sport betting is the games I have seen the most improvement in and it all started when i started watching more games instead of focusing on only watching games that I have players which I love watching playing. I watched the Euros and had my bets on Spain winning and I won every time they played but if I did not watch Spain play from the  begining, I would had thought that the teams they played would had won them as that is the way I use to bet before. I do not watch games but put my hopes on luck and pick teams that looks the favourites to win.

Over the years as a Sport betting gambler, I can proudly say that I am actually improving in my betting tactics and ability to manage loses while maximize profits while betting on both live and unlive matches. And inasmuch as winning is not always certain when it comes to gambling, I have also developed an attitude of always accepting whatever outcome that any of my gambled game play, while using an amount I can always afford to lose, since one principle I have got to understand is that jackpot is not always determined by how much you have gambled, but rather luck.

I myself have experienced all of your questions except one question that I have never done, namely wanting to recover from losses, this is not good in gambling because it will result in us losing more money. My goal in gambling is just to have fun, but once I also check all my gaming history to learn from mistakes, of course my progress in gambling has progressed. If it's a matter of emotions and winning statistics, it depends on my mood when gambling, sometimes it's stable, sometimes it's not. Have I ever stopped since eternity? I ever. When I lost in a casino game and until now I rarely play in casinos, I was unlucky in this game.

But I didn't stop gambling completely, instead I just changed the game, so now I prefer betting on sports matches, even now the progress I have experienced in almost all leagues, I understand the philosophy and characteristics of each league, especially when determining bets on teams certain teams and do not bet on certain teams. At least I can find out which team is often consistent in each match before placing a bet.

I'm only going to answer this question. Yes, I'm getting better at predicting sports matches overtime. I've made some losses in sports betting when I was new but after doing it for a year I can say that I'm getting good at it and most of my bets are winning ones.

I'm a player who never bets on matches where chance of winning is low or medium, I still face some losses because my predictions aren't 100% accurate but I can surely say that my predicting skills are getting improved. I would say that out of 10 bets I predict 7-8 accurately with winning results, and that's more than enough for me as a player.

At the end of the month I always feel confused, why my salary for one month is not able to meet my needs for the whole month, I even have to take out a loan to be able to meet my needs. However, if I think about it again, the salary I receive is more than enough to meet my needs for a whole month, and I should even be able to set aside something to save or invest. All night I kept wondering where the money went, and to answer that curiosity, I decided to check the transaction history on my account. And it turns out, oh it turns out, almost half of the salary I receive is spent on gambling. This is crazy, but starting from this incident, it made me realize how important it is to keep financial records and limit gambling activities. Because if not, maybe I will continue to wonder where my money went, and continue to feel difficult at the end of the month because I have run out of money, and will never have enough savings and investments.

Yes, I have a lot of improvement and I must say I do not lose as much as I did before which means I have learned from the mistakes I do make and perhaps I have come to realize a different pattern or strategy that has helped limit my loss and grant me more win. Previously I bet on various kind of casino games and it took me time to realize that I have to have one pick and adjust to knowing how it works. I get to see myself getting familiar with sports betting and roulette, which is luckier than in any other online casino game.

This is a good question you have asked which has made me to ponder on what's really happening to me and why my results always changing. Strategy is one thing we need to look at comparing it to our results. We can't use the same strategy with other games and expect the same outcomes especially when we had been having a good results.

I have learnt in a hard way never to take gambling too seriously because that is like a loophole for us to lose money without noticing even when we are trying to hard. Gambling is meant to be fun and easy going nothing something that is meant to be positive everytime.  Anytime ww make profits, we need to understand that what we earned is someone losses and we should respect that.

In gambling, one can actually get to know themselves about gambling and also know the game.
Don’t forget, no one likes to loss and as such, you take notes. I suppose when I first stated gambling, I was after the high odds because, that’s where the money is. I picked a few in an accumulated option and bet on it. Guess what, only one amongst my other options played out. I learnt a valuable lesson that day. That high odds also meant high risk and such games have a higher chance of not playing out as predicted.

I guess my resolution now have been, even while you gamble, you get to accept the result as inevitable and you can either win or loss of which, both results are still okay.

I think the only improvement and development I can think about in gambling is getting the real understanding of gambling on how to play with amount you can afford to lose, having the real mentality in gambling, this are what I consider to be a good strategy of gambling.  If it is about another strategy of making profit in gambling,  I don't think their is a sure strategy of gambling to make money. In gambling winning happens as luck , that is why it is wise for one to play with the amount that can be afford to lose.

Having the main understanding about gambling that won't have a negative effect on one's life is what I consider to be good development and improvement in gambling.

As long as you are in control of how much you put in, there is no problem with that. But one trick gambling play on us is that whenever we set a target amount to win or multiplier, those target will never come instead they come when we don't expect them to. I observed this in sports bet often when I place heavy on what I thought was a sure bet, I will lose helplessly but when I have little confidence on a bet and place casual amount, I end up winning. So don't be surprise that you will hit this multiplier when you least expected.

The first time I engaged in sports betting, I was just betting blindlessly.  Just picking random odds hoping I got lucky to hit the right one.  But as I progresses, I learned to know the team, strength, and weaknesses, and be able to see whether the odds is realistic or not.  The change came when I realized that betting with little knowledge about the sport will incur losses so from that, I tried to at least do some research and look for people's views about the fight.  I believe there is no harm in considering other's opinion especially when we are just starting to learn about the teams and the condition of the event.

at first I want to tell everyone openly that theirs no one who gambles because of fun, any gambler have two things in involve, so I know quite well that gambling the motive of everyone who is associate of gambling is to gamble and make funds through gambling, whosoever that says that gambling is all about funds that person is saying false and I believe that the person just want to deceive some people, but let us believe that our plans to be a gambler or always partake in gambling is to check if we have the luck to be a beneficiary in gambling, for aspects of gambling strategy, it's what you know you will believe because everyone have it's own ways of participating in gambling

I think i would like to compare myself several years ago when first time to know online casino with my current condition that i think as a player i am progressing and i feel like much much better now because i can control my emotion while gambling and so far i can wisely to accept my loses and never to pushing and attempts to recoved my loses but i didn't counting my gambling statistics because i was too lazy to do that but i have to says my winning statistics still not stable because sometimes i won but often too i was lost

And about betting on sport and predicting the results of sports matches currently i was focus on football because i am a fans of this sport and i think my knowledges also increases for this sport because i can predict the outcomes of the particular matches from football much better compared to several years ago

In sports betting, experience is a good and a brutal teacher so the answer to all of the OP questions above is Yes.
Strategy, money management, control emotions, have definitely improved, but those are not a guarantee that our winning percentage will be better than before.
Luck factor remains the most important and vital role for us as gamblers, for example:
In the Euro and Copa America this month, it was quite difficult even for senior and pro sports bettor to win in a row because many matches ended with a penalty shootouts.

Yes, I do quite have a progress with my betting outcome. I've learned things since I started on this industry.Common mistakes on our journey is betting on your biases, betting big against total underdogs,and placing a bet to not miss out. I now have a better control with myself in gamblig, times that I would go against my bias if the opposing choice would be in real advantage, and lastly learned how to skip betting on match ups I'm not having an edge with. Gambling has more of its downside on instances you'd be chasing the profit. Gambling less would generate more profit than pushing our lucks too much because losing is more certain. It is a matter of being a more efficient bettor than to just be aggressive of things. My progress might not be generating as big as others profit but I can confidently say that I'm now having a better gambling journey than before.

You asked a lot of questions and this is interesting to discuss, I myself don't feel that there is any better development if we look at the statistics of wins or profits, it's still the same as usual, but what I feel is that there is development in myself being able to control my emotions better Again, by always considering everything carefully so that you don't make the wrong move or take a decision. and before, I often looked for suitable strategy references, but at the moment I no longer do that, whether it's progress or not, but what is clear is that now I feel better than before.

Whatever gambling it is, whether it depends on luck or not, I think the point is that it must be done with common sense by considering it only as an entertainment suggestion, because the fatal mistake of thinking that we can make money by gambling tends to be a disaster for ourselves.

I agree that in sports betting we need skills to bet on. But along with the skills, we also need to have good luck. Luck also plays an equivalent role in sports betting. Yes, I can say that I am improving, as now I do better risk management and take minimal risk while betting. I understand the importance of money; hence, I don’t bet on fan favorites; rather, I do proper research and then only bet on the person who has more chances of winning, irrespective of the odds that I am being offered. I also lost plenty of money while betting, but this only helped me to understand the game better.

I agree with you. Why most gamblers experience severe financial crises is because they don't keep track of their finances and gamble without realizing that they have spent half of their monthly salary. What you experience will be a valuable experience for yourself and others. I know you are a wise person and it doesn't seem like you are addicted to gambling. But even people like you don't realize that they spend half of their salary on gambling. This proves that someone must have good financial management. And it's not just in gambling. In your daily life you also need to manage your finances for your needs, entertainment and subscriptions. I once experienced financial difficulties because I subscribed to too many applications that I didn't really need.

What do people expect to see as a development of a player in general? After few games, bets or tries, when game rules are learned, anyone becomes an expert of a game. Imho there is not such thing as skill level in gambling, to be developing all the time. After first or several series of losses, a person either becomes more cautious in placing a bet, as nobody likes to lose or lose quick. It is not like a bodybuilding for example, when the more ages you go to gym, the better you become. And you do it until you hit your max, and then supplements comes into play.

Of course I have made a noticeable advancement and growth within the time that I have being gambling and this is a significant growth in my eyes, since there are some acts that I use to engage in while gambling but this days I make a better decision and make the right bets decisions, so I will accept that that is a growth for me.

Anything you are doing, if you are consistent, then the more you keep doing it, then there will be improvement. So the same thing is applicable to gambling, if you are gambling, then there will be improvement, there are some aspects that you are going to improve.

Some people are always finding it difficult to improve their money management. The more people keep on gambling, the more the more they end up addicted to gambling, and they do spend more money on gambling, so only a few people are able to maintain their money management over a period of time.

If I am losing in gambling, I do stop gambling for that moment, or I will reduce the amount I am gambling with, and then, after I notice everything is back to normal, I will increase my gambling amount to the normal amount that I have gambled with before.

Of course I experienced a pretty good development from sports gambling, such as knowledge, self-control and others about betting and understanding football as if I was told quite a lot because of what I did such as analysis, making decisions, reading a lot of statistics, history and possibilities that will happen it really makes me a person who understands more about football betting and even about the sport itself.

The highlight of your question is that a more consistent profit is still quite difficult for me to get because indeed some matches there are events on the field that make one team lucky so that even though I analyze well and have predictions on one team it can be broken by the course of the match that cannot be controlled and predicted, such as fouls and events that just happen that designate one of the parties.

But if I feel that withdrawals are much more done than depositing, but unfortunately I don't need to pay attention to that.

Sometimes the concept of developing as a player can be ambiguous, because developing as a player can have many paths, whether it is knowing each game, whether it is having many years playing, whether it is having a lot of experience, but for me particularly and specifically developing as a player means being a player who has more wins than losses in his balance, and that for me is developing as a player, because development has many aspects like the ones I mentioned before , but basically I Would say that a player would have a tendency towards success.

Yes, I already learned many things in betting. The progressing as a player is not much as I don't place a bet too often. But I guess from learning from many sources helps me to improve my skills but I still needs to learn more. If that is about risk and money management, I guess I can handle better than in the past because I know when I can place my bet and when I should not place my bet. Handling the emotion will be my concern as that can helps me to prevent to spend more money in betting. But if that is about the bet, I think I needs to developing my skills because I still lose many times than wins.

I am not trying to recover my lose as that can only makes me lose more money. I feels that betting in sports must have skills to predict the winner so that is why we must keeps learning about analysis so we can know the team that have big chance to win.

But if the definition of developing as player is just that the balance of wins is much greater than the number of losses, is it easy to achieve?
In reality, players always have small odds and the real advantage belongs to the house edge or the dealer, they have everything to be able to gain more profits because they are in business and we are just people who deposit money to spend.
Losing in gambling is always guaranteed and winning is just small opportunity to return the losses that we have previously experienced, this is how gambling really works and as players we can never avoid all of that except with luck.

I personally define development for player as when they are able to lose an acceptable amount of money and are able to control themselves to minimize risks.
Gambling is full of risks and bad impacts, so far very few gamblers have been able to avoid them.

I don't get why many people think that gambling is a serious thing to deal with and think we can make more money and more profit; in fact, it is designed for entertainment, not as a resource.

If you are not doing this for fun, you are not gambling anyway. 

Anyway, as a gambler, I learned not to fall into addiction, which was the best thing I did after many years of doing this. And I accept that even though we have been betting for many years and discovering new strategies, winning is impossible without luck. The situation never changes, which is why I still lose, as this is how gambling works. 

That's a good one,
It's nice you've been able to access your gambling habits and discovered where you weren't getting it right and corrected and improved on it, it shows how responsible a gambler you are.
There's absolutely reason for gamblers to improve their strategies and make some certain changes if they discovered they're losing more often, especially those are relatively new to gambling, I'm made to understand that a lot of new gamblers out there often came into gambling having the wring perspective about gambling and setting quute unrealistic goals for themselves, and this often results to losses and even more losses, so such a persom should try as much as possible to be able to make adjustments and improvements on their technique, approaches and possibly goals too.

I love to believe that its purely dependent on luck, Moreso to deceive my subconscious not to take it more seriously in any case, because any other mentality employed would see me being more serious in gambling again, I love to explore in detail whatever I pick interest no matter the price to be paid in it and I don't think I'm choosing gambling again for such a ride.

yeah, my risk, emotional and financial management is improving over the years of my conscious good gambling involvement, I don't try to recover from any losses since I gamble with what I can loose and yeah, I've improved in predicting the outcomes of football matches because I watch a lot of them myself, follow up the news on the state of teams, players fitness, availability and I'm able to analyze outcomes very cleanly to get more wins when luck is by my side.

Maybe that's what they see to other people, they only look for their gains but not the struggle for winning those prizes. But if they would know the whole truth about what those people experience and how much money they spend before they got that win maybe they get disappointed then just think about to gamble just for fun.


Still gambling if there's money involve, But if they do it for free and use demo account then that's not gambling but rather they just want to have fun without losing anything.

That's how we develop ourselves since we are now far away to became an gambling addict since we know the consequences. Its just we realize that it doesn't give us any assurance and we are doing it just to spice up our daily activities with no intention to exceed on our limits.

That's because they some people out there can wins much money so their minds keeps telling them to keeps trying to playing gambling. That makes them keeps playing gambling and use more and more money to wins the games. They are trying to developing themselves by learning more about betting and hopes that they can wins.

I also learned some lesson about betting although I realizes that I am not good as the other gamblers. I still gets losses in betting but I keep trying to learn more about analysis. I know it's difficult to be a pro gamblers so I don't choose that way as I realizes the risks will be bigger for me. Learning strategy in betting is a must but you should not trying to hard because while you learning the strategy, you needs to use some money to test and find the work strategy. Without using money, you will not know which strategy that will work so you must strictly limiting your money. But we will difficult to wins in gambling because casino will be the last winners and takes the biggest profit than the gamblers.

I also understand the concept of developing as a player is about winning. Because of course, after playing gambling for a long time, there are definitely many things that we can get automatically. Developing in terms of analyzing a match, we gain a lot of experience, develop strategically and many other things that we get automatically, especially in choosing the type of game and how it works. However, this also depends on how we respond to it, if we respond well it will lead to being a responsible gambler and vice versa.

However, of all these developments, of course the main goal is to seek victory, because even though gambling is just for fun, seeking victory is always a priority, especially if we develop in achieving victory, of course this is a form of our success in gambling. because without winning when gambling it will be very boring and will even make us stop gambling.

Taking into account the fact that betting has changed quite a lot in recent years (the reason is big data and AI, which remove most of the bookmaker’s weak points before the betters can find them), it seems to me that everyone who is more or less involved in this area has also changed. It is necessary to adapt to new circumstances and one way or another this happens to everyone, but another question is how many professional betters have not at least worsened their position relative to bookmakers over these years of changes.

I’ve reached a similar conclusion myself. After many years of trying to develop the perfect strategy, I realized it is a futile effort. Any luck based game with a house edge will always result in the player being unprofitable over a long period of time. Any time someone is able to win big, it will be purely due to luck and not strategy, their success will also only be temporary.

My answer is No, but don't get me wrong, it's because I am a developed player already, I am satisfied with this current status and I do not want to develop more than this to avoid complicating myself.

In my experience, gambling has never been complicated for me. Before I started sports betting almost 2 decades ago, I knew what I wanted and I've stuck with it without any compromise and has been helping me till today. So, my game and rules stand the same, nothing to review and nothing to change.

As for the casino aspect, I accept it for what it is, so it will be a waste of time trying to further chase a shadow.

I agree, which is why I don't see a valid reason the OP stated not to post if you're into gambling for entertainment. I find it a little too absolute to mention that such users cannot contribute to the discussion.

Gambling is supposed to be an entertaining activity, involving the aspect of money, of course; that's what keeps us going. I'm playing for fun as well, but I consider myself a responsible gambler who is able to control his emotions and not go on a frenzy just because I won or lost a few games. On top of that, I'm staying within budget the majority of the time. I've become a lot better at analyzing football matches; I'm not implying that I'm experienced, but the Euro 2024 championship went a lot better than expected, winning the largest majority of my bets.

I don't think I have developed much as a bettor has others could have in the same period of time. Mostly, because the bulk of my accumulated wager had gone to casino games: those are dices and some occasional blackjack. I mostly like to bet and partake in Sportbetting when big enough events are going on, like the Copa America or the football world cup, otherwise I feel some laziness and unwillingness to participate on it.
As It stands today, my ability has only developed to the extent I don't trust odds as much as a newbie would. During the Copa America I took a look at some of the matches and I realized that I would have lost money if I had decided to bet in favor of the team I thought to be more skillful, because of that, I try to be more careful on what I do with the limited money I locate to betting/rollings dices.

I think the development with gambling isn't gradual but rather quite simple.

So long as you realize that there are no surewins and no perfect predictions, then you will also see that betting is also chance based and casinos know to set the odds so that most money ends up to them. It's not something you can beat consistently and definitely the odds are against you in the long run no matter how good you might be with predictions.

So once you come to these realizations you are now more mature because you can see gambling as a game and not as a job or profit generating activity. Your goal would be to have fun and minimize losses instead of chase profits that are unattainable. In this manner I'd like to hope that most people who gamble for a long time have achieved this development.

Yes, you have experienced it and now you know the truth, no matter how hard you try to solve the algorithm created by the casino with the aim of getting lots of big wins, you will still never be able to make it happen. Because after all those who create games are the casinos that provide games to play, and therefore I think it doesn't make sense to try various ways to get lots of big wins, and now you have realized that all of that is just a waste of your time. .

But it's good because at least now you know all the facts. Basically, gambling is a game of probability, which means nothing more than chance, and of course isn't chance something that won't necessarily happen? Yes, I think it's clear, so let's open our eyes and don't be fooled by our own expectations, because after all and forever there will be no significant results with just a little effort, and if you really want to get a lot money then of course there is no other choice but to work.

You are asking about our experience as sports bettors and the progress of this journey, simply there will be a lot to discuss here, from the beginning of this journey in our first days until what we became now, our results and the difference from first day until now.
Simply, this experience should be only for having fun not primarily focused on making money. As in my own experience, I have never played that much or focused to win every bet, it is still a game of luck after all even with football.

Something that anyone can notice, like me, it’s the news and following up with every team updates, players, management of the club, circumstances of that match and its importance. In my first days, I wasn’t following up with the matches I was betting on, which lead to mostly losing my bets.
After many times and analysis, I have come to a closure that the more you are following up with the news and details of the match before its start, you will have a clear image and better risk and return chances.

This development in the outcome, needs a little bit of efforts, searching and learning about every team before the game, then when it comes to setting a bet, it will be more clear for you the risk you would like to take.

I enjoy my betting activity even more after experiencing a lot of things, with time it became a better fun activity and still from the beginning, I have never looked at sports betting to generate an outcome, but to have more fun while following that game.

I think that conclusion is not an empty conclusion and we must consider the fact of that experience because it doesn't only happen to you, I am the same way, which basically if you look for profit from gambling in the long run it will be very difficult and almost impossible, especially in games based on luck, there is no right strategy in my opinion to be able to get consistent wins.

Even in some skill-based games it is the same, but maybe much better and the possibility of winning can go up over time and learn the strategy but even in that game luck is one of the decisive factors as well if our opponents are equally skilled.

Making improvements doesn't seem simple, but the little steps I've made at advancing my gambling and gaming experience have been meaningfully beneficial in securing my funds and time. Also tried to research alternative strategies that'll increase chances of winning, but didn't bother much at it after none apparently worked. Subsequently, after, reading multiple gambling books, for improvement purposes, I concluded at settling my emotions and focus on devising emotional safeguarding strategies that'll enhance how I feel after a losing streak. Such things as visiting gambling communities and reading other player's thoughts increased  my emotional control against feeling hurt after losing, and kept me content enough not to go after the losses.

There is no way you will develop as a player in the aspect of risk tolerance, choice of picks to include in your bet, certainty instead of doubt then of course you will have more wins than losses with time. The reason is that all of this is connected and if you have developed in all these areas then you have developed a mentality, financially, and discipline as a gambler.

These typically point out that the area will need to look out for development as a gambler. So many people today do not take note of these things when they are gambling and year to year they still have the same gambling result. If they see people who are succeeding as a gamblers they feel it is typically based on luck. Yes, luck is involved but most times we can only be near to being lucky if our strategy for gambling is well-defined. We can just jump into gambling all the time and expect magic to happen. 

Most gamblers aren't able to make profit from gambling on long term, and that is not because they aren't educated in sports matters, but because it's still a game of luck which involves a house edge which favours the houses on every bets you place. The probabilities are at the house's side, and doesn't matter how much effort and time you dedicate to sports betting, you are likely to never be able to beat it. If a decent possibility existed, we would see the percentage of gamblers in profit to be much higher than it currently is.

We could develop ourselves in PvP games which involve real time strategy and which can be played by the gamblers themselves, but that kind of game isn't introduced at gambling platforms by the companies. I don't know if it's because there isn't demand for that, or if it's simply because it's not interesting for the casinos' operators to do so.

In the question of do I improve as a player? Nope. I don't think I do, and I don't feel the need to at all. Betting is something that I don't need to put too much effort into at the end of the day, cause it's just me making decisions that aren't even that major to begin with, all for the promise of a couple hundred or a thousand bucks.

It's a personal preference too, as a gambling addict back then, I realized that the reason why I fell into such a situation was because besides the fact that I was alone and unsupervised, I've put too much importance on gambling that it made itself a major part of my life when the fact of the matter is that it shouldn't have been the case in the first place.

So yeah, to each his own but let me preach a bit and tell you that the more you make gambling/betting a bigger deal than it is, the more it's going to seep and make a place in your life, until such a point where you can't even get it out of your system, by then you're nothing but an addict.

That's right, this should be something that all gamblers know and understand, especially those who make winning a priority, however and forever the dealer will always be the far superior party, the reason I think it's clear is that they are the ones who make the following games too. regulate each portion of the winnings for the gamblers, meaning they are in control, and it will not be possible for you to be able to beat the dealer by for example being able to get lots of wins in a row in large amounts, and I am sure that this is a fact in gambling.

The percentage of possible chances of winning will be much smaller than losing, and this is why the majority of gamblers experience losses more often than winning, and because of this is also why gambling is completely prohibited as a place to earn income, because of course there will never be any certainty or guarantee in a place that only relies on luck.

Experience will really make us a better person, even when it comes to gambling aspects. However, even if we think we are better bettor now, still we are susceptible to gambling losses which I think won't change knowing we can't beat the casino house. The house will always have an edge over its players so no matter how good and developed we are now, we can't be always at the winning end.

I have to say that the way I handle gambling now is far different from the time I started gambling. And I'm more aware on how to limit my losses because I'm a more responsible gambler now. But talking about if we gained more winnings than losses this time, maybe yes, maybe no. But what is certain is, the gambling house will never be beaten by us.

You are right, and it is as you say, having more wins than losses I think and I consider it is almost impossible, rather the success rate can change when people change to another branch of the game such as sports betting, I think it is easier to win there , because it is no longer due to pure luck, but also to the internal decisions that are made, this is something that should always be seen.

Sometimes people are practically very susceptible to things that can happen, games will always be for entertainment reasons, and not to think of having it as an income, if we Start from there I think that one will avoid having many Losses.

I am not sure that we can talk about player`s development at all, since gambling is an extremely unpredictable activity, and it is simply impossible to determine the further way of events. Each time, chance plays a decisive role, the game is not subject to the player's control, which means that he cannot develop a strategy that would improve his skills. The only development that I see for myself is the development of self-control, the ability to stop in time and leave the game while you are winning or at least not losing. But since there are no clear, unbreakable rules, no frames, we cannot talk about stable development, which can be achieved through the player's efforts.

That's me but I have experience to share.
Gambling adds additional excitements when watching a sports. It also helps me to study for the team and the players. So when gambling, I feel I am more informed than when I am just watching a match.

Totally depends on a certain individual on which there are really those people who do really welcome new ideas or things that they do like to experience or something that they are really interested into it.
Self learning on regarding or in connection about sports is something that will really be that depending on a certain individual on which there would really be those people who are really that skeptical
or wouldnt really be tending to take up the risks because they are really just that limiting themselves on a single point and wont really be trying out to learn other sports on which its normal.
It would really be that always depending into someones preference and liking because not all would really be that on the same mindset when it comes to this thing.

I choose no, because I think me developing as a player in gambling or how I play is because of my skills that I develop in my work, well because I have a work that requires critical thinking and logical thinking, in short a programmer, and I notice that I'm more skilled day by day because I keep my mind exercise and developing as I need it for my work and I saw it when I also play gamble especially gambling card games.

If we are talking about sports betting, I have never been able to improve my skills no matter how much I tried and spent time on my own analytics. Apparently I am not destined to become a professional gambler, and to be honest I do not need it. In gambling I was able to raise my level of play only in poker and improve self-control, but as I understand it is not much related to this topic.

Because it is impossible to develop as a player, gambling is not a skill that can be improved, gambling is not a thing that can be trained through years of betting. If we talk about betting, then with time, a person will only be better familiar with sport, specific team or a league. But that will be just a theory. Players still perform the way the can, but not the way gambler wants and predicts. If we talk about  table games, slots or house games, then there is nothing to develop. All is about random and luck. Some might say that they become more disciplined, have more self control and etc. But does it really helps to win more? I am speaking about win only. Those skills might help to lose less, but we gamble to win, not to minimize losses.

The player can develop his skills in the game, that is, not only bet on the team he considers stronger, but will approach the analysis of the event comprehensively, follow the teams, be aware of all injuries, transfers, disputes and conflicts, as well as take a more fundamental approach to risk management. It is all difficult to understand at once, but over time you can learn this. And if we talk about games in slots, then only luck will play a role there, I do not know what can be changed or improved here.

I think the OP says not about gambling that is base on pure luck. So it's more on sports betting and if we as bettors could have improved at least our chances of winning. I absolutely believed that we can developed, but it's not that guarantee as well that we will always win in sports betting. Sure with time, we might be seeing and analyzing the games even more and we all have the internal data in our brain to say that this team is going to beat, or if the underdog has a good chance and should be a good bet as obviously it will have higher odds and so a good win for us. However, I say that it is not always a guarantee as sometimes there are unexpected things, maybe in the middle of the game, one of the star players got injured. So there are factors that is beyond our control and even if we have analyze it to the tee, there could be unexpected mistakes and we are going to lose.

Obviously spending time on something will increase one’s knowledge and every sensible gambler is bound to develop in their games, mistakes made are learned from and your knowledge about teams, their tactics, strength will improve a lot with time so it will increase your chances of winning. Throughout my years in gambling i have learned and developed a lot and i am now confident that i am able to make a reasonable amount from gambling.

Those who play for fun might look unserious but they are definitely learning a thing or two from their gambling times so don’t underestimate them for they may have some useful knowledge to share.

Yes, I have learned a lot as a gambler.
I am progressing and my strategy has improved immensely compared to when i started newly. Most importantly i have learned to management skills has improved alot, at first i wasn’t able to fully control my money and emotions but now i don’t have a problem with that. 

It is not easy to develop our skills as a betting player. I tried to search for the lesson but i can not still understand precisely and need to learn more. That is why I decide not to learn deeper on that skill and only place a bet for the match that I know.

I realize that having a skills and knowledge to analyze the match is necessary. But I don't have to force myself to learn so hard because that can consuming much time. But I learned to control my emotion in gambling because that is the important thing that we must have and do.

Win and lose comes to me so I am not trying to recover from losses. I can accept the lose although that is not easy in the beginning. I know that lose is part of gambling so I learn a lot to accept that lose.

100% you develop certain things over time.
I remember maaaany years ago when I started to play some games I just chose by feeling, record in the league and recent games. These days I inform myself a lot. Read both previews on the team's websites to gain info about certain players that are missing and so on. Basically trying to gain any small information available to make a good decision.

Also I am staying away from odds that are too good to be true. Especially with college basketball I got screwed over so many time, at some point you have to have learned your lesson.
About the mental aspect you also develop over time. You learn to not chase losses as fast as possible but taking your time and gain informations for the next play. Having a good bankroll management is also something to has to be learned over time, never take to high wagers that won't allow you to take a possible loss without a solid chance to recover.

Though you said that gamblers for fun should stay clear from this post, but don't you think there are too many questions which requires a simple answer? For me, All this questions doesn't really matter. gambling is not for business porpos so no matter the type of strategy you need to make it a profitable business, am sorry you wouldn't get it. neither from Gamblers for fun or Gamblers for profit. Because both party are subjected to win and lose. Try as much as possible to gamble with your spear money. or always keep some percentage of money aside from your salary each week or month Maybe like %5 to gamble with. But don't think of it as business otherwise you becomes addicted to loss and becomes emotionally traumatized.

Good, you can develop your thinking and skills for work or gambling in game like card game, can you get more wins in game that has begun to be mastered and really minimize losses more significantly ?
In card game there are those who are really skilled from those who feel skilled and any skill will never be able to surpass the dealer advantage, so basically everything will be the same with fairly large chance of failure even though you have tried to play as well as possible with all the skills you have.
I have quite long experience in the world of gambling from when I first knew physical gambling to now gambling online and I realized that the development that I think is really worthy of recognition is the development of person in controlling themselves and being able to minimize the amount of money lost to avoid all the bad effects of excessive gambling activities.

Good question, the truth is the self-awareness isn't present, I've been a very careful gambler from the start, so I am used to using $3 to $10 in gambling, I don't need to think if I am improving or not but my goal is to keep my discipline in checked.

I think this question is kinda suited for those who started poorly, less disciplined I meant, or maybe the addicted gamblers too, I am just not one of them, I understand very well how unsafe gambling can be so I am been more careful is all.

Few games do requires skills in this space, I think that's where responsible gamblers should try to improve themselves, but the few games that I am into are all games of luck only.

A gambler can develop his skills of analyzing teams that he thinks can perform and those that can not, over time he'll be able to master a strategy for bets. Although it's not a guarantee that your strategy will work out no matter how many years of experience that you've had in sports bet. We can not undermine that luck plays a crucial role in sports bet so there's nothing like fully mastering a strategy that will give you sure wins. Unlike other forms of gambling that solely depends on luck to win, sports bet gives you the option to use your brain to calculate the chances that a team has to win in a match.

I agree with you, there is indeed no accurate strategy to be able to gain profit in gambling. However, with the many types of gambling, there are some that must be done with skill and this is where players can improve their skills until it can be said that there is development, for example with those who initially played games that required skill with no skills at all, then when he likes the game then there is a possibility that the player will find a way to have a strategy to increase his chances of winning.
The thing that must be prevented is excessive addiction, so it is better if we can set a certain amount to be allocated to gambling with the note not to extend the gambling session again when it ends in defeat.

Yes, I experienced this. my sports betting at the beginning of my gambling was very bad. I used to just bet on some matches with small Odds. without even knowing the quality of the competing teams. I chose randomly the leagues provided by the sportsbook. even making multiple bets with several teams that very often made me lose.
I learned a lot from my own experience. now I am more careful in making bets and not doing it randomly like before. although sometimes the ambition to continue betting when there is a popular event like the World Cup cannot be avoided.

That's what the thread is all about. Developing as a player.

I think many of us who have been in the gambling industry either sports or casino games know better how cruel the life of a gambler is and we learned from it.
We cannot be stuck just playing over and over again without even thinking about what is next. We need to grow. Honestly, there will still be times that we are dragged by our emotions but we know better and pauses will definitely help in this kind of situation as our mind can be cleared when we take some good rest.
It's not a perfect solution but it's better than nothing and it's all up to us on how disciplined we can be at staying with our budgeted amount and then calling it a day if it loses.

I have never done sports betting online, when there is a big game coming up I usually do real life betting by betting with one or more of my friends depending on how they choose their favorite team. Once I heard someone say that sports betting seems easy to do and if I'm not mistaken we can place bets when the game is about to finish, whether that's true or not but I myself am not interested and until now I have never done sports betting online. Maybe if I was interested in doing this kind of betting I would find a way to minimize the risk of losing the bet. Apart from that I agree with what you said sometimes we can get carried away by our own emotions and I think this applies to all players in making any type of bet.

Not today, but over the years I have changed.  When I played poker there was a time when I improved as a player. As for casino games, fortunately, instead of ending badly, over time I have been gambling less frequently, always with money I could afford, and knowing how to stop in time.

It's amazing that you haven't experienced the fun of sports betting yet. Many of my friends including me have made a lot of income from this betting. Yes physical bet is very popular and people enjoy playing at fixed locations and betting with each other it can be one of the ways to earn money. I have a group of friends and get together to place bets on fixed gambling games and enjoy physical gambling and of course we refrain from overstepping our limits because we all have families. There will a massive crowd at the designated venue for the upcoming big game. I usually prepare for that time. I think this betting involves only entertainment and feeling of joy.

Right out of the box, I have also ended up noticing that the less frequently I gamble the better, this is why I believe that gambling on its own is like a hidden force that drives people to just keep risking all they can, if care isn't taken this is how people end up becoming an addicted gambler.

At first, I struggled, staying on a particular amount of money every time you gamble can be very hard, especially if you are someone who makes money, I mean a good amount of money every week or monthly, that feeling of keep trying was a war I fought for the first few weeks until I get used to it, in the end, I suspected that it was because I intended to make money from gambling.

Later I ended up lowering the time I spent on gambling activities and I have felt better since then, I pity people who are new to gambling, that spirit of ' I want to hit it big' will take over your mind and God helps you, if you don't fight this battle first you could end up losing yourself.

I am not developing as a player, because I believe that sports betting is just entertainment, not work. That's why I'm not betting any huge sums. And I don't do any thoughtful analyses of teams and players. I just enjoy the winnings, albeit small ones. I don't think it's necessary to make betting your profession or devote a huge portion of your time to it. However, I do not exclude that there are people who can think exactly the opposite..

That's why I see it as more or less of an instinct than skills when it comes to choosing a winning team/game. It's instinct and luck. There's no level of skill that can make anyone know what another person has going on in their mind and that's why outcome of games depend on luck and chance.

That's the best way to go about it. Just chill and see it as a leisure than as, "a must win situation thing". That way, one isn't pressured into anything and addiction is put under control.

Is it really possible to eliminate the fact of accepting that betting to win in the sports bets are lied on lucky? Whether yes or no, I'm sure that  I've learnt within my gambling experience and that's self control when realizing that as the profit flows or as I'm catched up with my goals, if I'm not being careful I may be loosing in a long run due to over confidence that everyday would be a cash out days.
I've also learnt how to accept losses and when taking a risk, I should only indulge on activities that I'd be affordable at lost.
And yes, looses does keep me out of the games because I can't afford to continue loosing knowing I'm staking with my money.

That kind of feeling is really needed, rather than just chasing a win on every bet.
There is no situation that always has to be won, sometimes luck will not be on the side even if the team chosen as a bet is the best team.

I also do bets only as entertainment and there will be no pressure and necessity to win,
the main goal is to enjoy the match and if win it is a bonus that I get.

Only a small amount of money I use to bet on football predictions and some games like slots, dice, Blackjack etc.
And I was also aware that forcing something to keep winning would bring me to a detrimental level of addiction.

I am very happy on the area which i have developed as a gambler because I could remember when i started gambling, I gamble excessively which brought losses upon losses and I became addicted. It took some time for me to overcome addiction and that has thought me a big lesson in life.

I can control myself when gambling by using the amount of money that i can avoid to lose and also setting time limits for my gambling activities. This alone makes me feel happy and stay free from much losses. There is no how a gambler will develop his skill in gambling, his losses will still be higher than his wins.

Yes, I think I agree with you on this, and the only development that I think is not wrong to do is when your development goal leads to something good like making yourself more developed in terms of preventive measures by prioritizing it, but if your development goal is to achieve more wins then I think in the end it will most likely just be a waste of time. On the other hand, yes I understand that skills are needed in sports, but they should not be prioritized, in any type of gambling a gambler is required to be better at enjoying whatever the situation is, winning or losing, because I think even though you have good development in terms of skills, it does not mean that you will be completely free from the possibility of losing, and another thing I believe is when you dedicate yourself seriously to getting more wins then one thing is that there is a big possibility of an emotional reaction that will occur when you are experiencing defeat and of course that can be a more serious problem, so it is better to make gambling a form of entertainment without caring too much about the chances of winning.

Sometimes things like this can always happen because of a less objective assessment of something or it could be because the club we always support is one of the favorites so even if we lose we are still confident enough to do it but this is precisely what is a small disturbance indirectly.

This has happened to me on a number of occasions including last season where I was less than objective in the Bundesliga especially when Union Berlin were playing.

Honestly, this can be avoided but on the other hand, it can also eventually become complicated because sometimes even though we realize this is a mistake but when our thoughts are always focused on an indication where there is a lack of research on the club we like, things like this will continue to happen again and again which makes objectivity weaker when betting.

It's of no importance to pity people in a situation like that, as the lessons that comes with it, could change the player's thoughts of gambling for life. However, commendably, you've made a nice shift to a better gambling stage, by letting go such a perspective, which have ruined most gamblers like a plaque.

You didn't only develop as a gambler but also as a person. You went overboard by placing irresponsible bets and gambling more than you should have, ending up addicted, but in the end, you managed to overcome your addiction and set boundaries. This means much more than earning a few games or matches; it means that you developed self-control through your misconduct, which may assist you later on in life. 

Unfortunately, it's extremely easy to be fooled as a newbie gambler and fall into the trap of beginner's luck. The first few victories motivate you and make you thirsty for more, and ultimately, if you do not control it, it slowly consumes you, leading to addiction.

Firstly, I have learnt so many things compared to the past alot has really been learnt over the years of gambling,

I am progressing because there are so many improvements in all ramifications, such as the following:

Such as the risk management and the money management and more especially the emotional aspects too

Well losses at most times keeps me out of the for he who fights and and run away lives to fight to another day hence am not completely nock out of the game.

Your losses are your losses and your winning are just your winning recovering losses is just a matter of time for others because as for me am my winning is more than my losses ever since I started gambling.

Hahahahah getting better in predictions yeah some times I do forget or get carried away to try other strategies though not always as good as the one am more used to then I ended going back to the one that works for me most.

Self control is a character that gamblers really needs to develop because when one lacks this habit it can really cause a lot damages very difficult to come out from it. Accepting loses is another development gamblers needs to crave for and put it in practice, infact not just Accepting loses but also learn to play with the amount you can afford to lose. I think it is very important for gamblers to be very conscious with their gambling lifestyle to check their self if their is an ammendment that needs to be done that will improve a good gambling lifestyle. I appreciate gamblers who make sures they develop a good gambling pattern.

When it comes to poker I can say I have improved a lot and I continue to improve when I play poker. However , when it comes to casino I don't even know how to play roulette and the only thing I'm decent is BlackJack but other than this ,I really have no skills in casino because I really don't play slots roulette etc.

Now , when it comes to sports betting , I can say no matter how good you get , no matter how much you watch some certain teams and no matter how confident you are on your picks ....in the end I think it's just about luck and on the last places we find confidence , strategies and other factors.

What are you saying? I purposely replied to your post even as unclear as it is for you to expatiate on it as it all looks confusing. The reason is that I am so curious to know how your development in gambling helps your scope of programming to the point that it helps you widen the initiatives by "critical and logical thinking" as you called them. For me, I see no correlation here but it would be so helpful if you could explain yourself better, after all, no one knows it all, let me learn from you.

I started gambling only when I felt ready, all the days of my life living under my father's roof I have always been warned by him to never go near gambling, in my family few people turned into gambling addict and it ruined their lives, till now they are not balanced yet.

Now that my father is no more I've promised myself to never allow such thing to happen to me, I started gambling with the mind that I will never get addicted, I believe this is why till now I've not fallen victim to any addiction, i prefer to quit gambling either I win or not, once I reach my limit I am taking my leave.

I think there is nothing to get improve about in the gambling space, the preparation and development won't stop you from losing money anyway, strategy and technics? These will only get you fooled into thinking that you can handle it all.

More good to say that its fine to allow them to gamble if that's what they like and we should not feel pity or anything negative towards the activities they do. Since same as them we also experience the same situation. They also know the risk and sometimes they just want to experience things to know if they can get something from it or not. For sure learnings will came later on if they experience the worse. And it will be up to the person if they decide to stop or continue by using small amount then make sure that they are in total control of each actions they do.

Its important to learn then weight and choose what's best for us that's why lot came up on some thoughts that gambling is for entertainment that's why some people manage to be in control and avoid to waste a lot of money or go to addiction stage.

If we do really speak about into those games that would really be worthy for you to make yourself having that kind of improvement or development then it will really be that ideal or something applicable into the games
on which you could really be able to improve yourself and could really be that beneficial if you are really that trying out to make gambling as a career or something that you would really be trying out to be that profitable in long term. Gambling isnt something that you could rely upon but we cant be able to deny that when it comes to those professional card based gamers and to those sports better then its something that you could be able to have that edge among others. Speaking about developments about being a responsible gambler or similar aspect then it will really be just that depending on you on how you would be finding yourself having such situation.

Gambling is really that something that just for the sake of fun and not something that would really be good for long term runs or simply making up some wish about being profitable with it.
If you would really be having this kind of mindset or kind of approach towards it, then you would really be definitely be having that kind of different outcomes or experience on which its not something that will be beneficial
for you. This is why its really that important that you do really know on what you are really that dealing and act accordingly on which you do seem that it will beneficial.

I have always been interested in developing as a player because I am not ready to stand still and make the same mistakes. Of course, at the very beginning of my gambling journey, I probably made all the mistakes I could, and now I understand what new players have to go through. Despite this, any player should learn to draw conclusions and train better on a small bankroll. It is also necessary to divide the games into those that are completely dependent on luck and those in which you can earn money with your professional game after long training, learning and your emotional stability. I would advise paying attention to poker and blackjack.

As a gambler, I don't think anything has changed in me, because I really only gamble to have fun, and if I win knowing that there is a profit, I will immediately check because no matter what, I will have something to take home from the winning price because I was lucky.

And if I lose, it's okay because what I gambled on doesn't matter if I lose, and before I run out of money, if I'm not lucky, it's not a big deal to me.

Can i ask what concrete measures you took not to get addicted? Because that's not something people can really choose. You can "choose" what measures to take, if you know how your addiction would get triggered, but we are rarely consciously aware of that process in our minds. Behavioral addiction like gambling addiction is harder for us to realize or understand as it's happening in brain chemistry.

When it comes to OP:s question, i feel like have developed. Not in a way that i would win more, but i am gambling with budgeted smaller amounts, so i am not losing as much.

Yes, it is true that you said that gambling should be used as a place for entertainment and fun activities, but besides getting that, on the other hand, gamblers also expect the desire for luck there because it is not easy for a gambler who is really just looking for entertainment, in fact, many gamblers are willing to spend their time to get luck there and those are gamblers who are already addicted.
Although we have also seen some gamblers who use casinos for fun, but since the development of this modern era, we have found many people who play gambling as a place to find extra money.

And then the poor will complain why they can't change their life, they didn't realize their own activities that decrease their chance to change their life. Due to digitalization and most people are communicating through social medias, life is getting harder. Because it make people to are prone to comparing themselves with successful people, distract them from doing productive activity and "consume" useless informations.

Of course when you think that you can make profit from gambling is when your addiction journey starts. This is because you will never be satisfied with your wins neither will you think of stopping the game even when you are in big loss. It is only when you have emptied your bankroll that you will stop gambling automatically.

Don't be carried away with profit making because you will not realize that you are bringing losses and addiction to yourself. New gamblers should realize this and change their reason of gambling if it is for profit because the casino is not father Christmas.

Definitely gambling experience developed and we learn new things daily in different encountered. There new skills, technics we see when playing gamble. But some of those things we learnt are not permanent because someone game me tactics some years back to play bet but those technics are not working again.
And another thing is that the more you gamble the more you have strong mind to gamble. Continues gambling gives strong mind and that is one of the thing I have learnt so far. But I don't believe in other people prediction to play game. I used mine and wait for my luck to roll.

We should understand that we have developed as a player when we realize that there are no techniques or strategies that one can use in gambling to maximize their wins, there can be betting patterns that can either make you lose more or lose less based on how you are managing your bankroll. When you start gambling initially, you don't understand these things, you might look for strategies that you can use to win or recover your money, and you might even use some such as martingale to recover your losses, but after some time, you start understanding that these things are nothing else but tools to make you lose more.

I was also like that when I first started gambling. I used to look for strategies that I could use to recover my losses, I even used martingale strategy a lot in the initial days and it made me lose more money instead of helping me recover my losses. As time went by, I started realizing that it's not worth it and if I want to gamble, I will need to understand that gambling is all about luck and nothing can make you win more if you are unlucky.

Nobody who started gambling new that will not make a mistake, I believe that gambling has to do with good not bad, so I believe that gambling if we know gambling very well, to learn it doesn't take much time, as you said concerning casino game, I believe that if you concentrate very well in both poker game or any gambling websites that you wants to gamble with, highest it will take you to understand their protocols will not be that much, I agree with you that gambling is all about luck, to earn through staking in gambling is something that xome to pass through luck not experience.

definitely so, the more we play, the better we understand the rules of the game, this will give us an advantage over other players. Take poker for example, until I remembered all the combinations and rules it was very difficult to play, but after a while I feel confident in the game and do not worry once again that I do not fully understand what combination I have.

I personally don't really focus on having a good development in gambling, because I only bet based on fun. As such, I don't strive to improve or get better with good results in winnings as well. Because at least, if we strive to develop in gambling for the better, then maybe it also has a different basis when starting gambling whether it is to be consistent with winning or really want a good income in gambling. With such reasons, then I personally don't want to impose myself to have a good development in gambling, because it seems like it would be stressful for me to do.

I would add also a third option ::)
in my personal experience told in this topic https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1234109.0 , my ability over the years has improved up to a certain limit. The same is true in money management. Unfortunately I noticed that without "training" and therefore without constantly following a market (sport, league, player etc...), I reached just sufficient level that doesn't justify anymore any effort :( .

Gambling should not be considered as a source of financial income. When someone focuses more on money, he will slowly walk that way even if he is not addicted. Addiction is never built in a day. Those who regularly try to engage in gambling in pursuit of financial income are more likely. And the most important thing is to get out of this kind of situation to set gambler's gambling limit. When a gambler is addicted he is not able to realize whether he is addicted or not. But if he tries to set his boundaries and gamble, he can easily get warning about that. Without keeping money into gambling, the real excitement of betting is not found. So money should be kept that even if lost the gambler does not become desperate to recover the lost money.

Though it leaves a trail of pain in players, but learning the hard way sticks morality to our memory. Most often, those who went through difficult times as gamblers, come out with better experience, and knowledge, which facilitates their remaining moments in gambling. As a matter of fact, they wouldn't dream of making similar mistakes that made them wander off the right path. For example; greed, and chasing losses.

As far as I'm concerned, looking for techniques and patterns in gambling is ultimately the same and useless, it's just a figment of the mind and believing it in order to get a win is not much like an illusion.

But it's true that the more you gamble the stronger the desire to gamble, especially when the orientation is multipliers and money-oriented wins, this will always lure us to continue gambling, I've experienced it to the point of having thoughts of why I have to gamble and gamble. lol

I have it clear, if we play economically with the balance willing to lose there is no problem, now if the person does not have that discipline then he faces contracting impulses and economies that can make him lose more money, the fact of playing in a casino we must realize that what matters most is money, the simple fact of us not having discipline will make us lose everything, and that is not good , it is clear that in the Eorld if we have empty pockets the Opportunities go away , and in the casino it is a fact.

it ain't quite easy planning for a loss, that's why it is adviced to play with amount that won't hurt you emotionally this is to prevent impulsive actions.
Because intellect and wisdom reduces when clouded by emotions and it barely yields good results.
Discipline especially in respect to our emotion and amount we use decides how far and how successful a person would become.
To OP question
Well yeah , experience is an Asshole kind of teacher and only a fool wouldn't hearken to it.
But there are times we neglect rationality and try and rely on luck.

I'm not sure if developing is the right term, bue what we have done is to learn in the way, we get experience and decide what kind of games we enjoy more thab other. From my personal point of view is easier to win with the house games than to win from slots games. And if we talk about sports the only one I enjoy betting on is UFC because the fights are fast and we dont have to wait a lot of time to see the bet result.

Of course, in talking about poker gambling, skills can be improved as the game requires skills to be able to play it very well to win, basically a game that requires skills, we must definitely improve our abilities, but if we look more broadly how we as players can develop further is to understand that we must have good money management, good self-management, regular emotions and also maintain expectations of victory so that they can be controlled so that our gambling can be said to be responsible gamblers, and yes you increase awareness of things that other people often ignore from gambling, because in my opinion managing yourself is a strength that needs to be improved besides just gambling.

It is natural and proven that poor people will have the assumptions as you mentioned above because poor people definitely want to change their lives to be more advanced and developed like other people who seem successful in their lives. However, it could be that the path or steps taken by poor people are wrong because they only think about the good impacts and are very difficult to achieve even though in the field most of the bad impacts they receive, such as one of which is frequent defeat and results in quite large financial losses.

We think everyone certainly wants to change their life for the better than before but if they choose to gamble in order to have luck that can change their fortune then the step is very inappropriate, because we all know that everyone who gambles of course just for fun and very little luck will always be on our side and win every bet we play and also me Agree with you, most people who bet will experience a lot of misfortune compared to the winnings they get, so if someone wants to change their life to be even more prosperous, then they have to do the work and not by gambling, and also they have to be able to control their gambling desires so as not to spend too much of their money on gambling.

I have never experienced online sports betting, but in reality I have experienced it and the sensation is indeed exciting, maybe the same sensation as doing sports betting online. But I'm not sure if you've made money betting like this, I mean even if you're an expert you probably won't always win. In addition, I never thought of this as a way to earn money. Because I think when there are people who can earn income with this maybe they will not work because they have already earned from this way.
That's good guys, not going overboard is good behavior when it comes to gambling because a lot of people who go overboard in gambling often have serious problems that affect their families and themselves. The development that I have experienced myself is that there is a certain limit because when I first came to gambling there I did not know the limit with the spirit of wanting to continue betting but that only got me into trouble, but nowadays betting in moderation is what I do and no longer too interested in betting or chasing victory.

Following how some of this weekend matches resulted in I will say you may not be wrong about your opinion. Imagine how Liverpool FC had to lose to Brentford in a 0:1 defeat at their home. Even those gamblers who claim to be well developed in analyzing the sports and having wonderful strategies were also caught up in the loss.  So there's nothing to make us feel in charge about sports betting because the outcomes of the games are just really unpredictable, we're just making some wins base on luck and not really by our strategies.

Yes, we want to change our life for the better than before but we must know that we don't have to choose to gamble because that will not gives us a big chance to make money. We will not have a big luck to win in gambling so we must really know for sure that we need to search for the other ways.
We can only use gambling for fun and not think much about the win and the money because if we have our luck, we can win and get the money. Maybe we can win today but that doesn't mean we can wins again tomorrow or other days so we must use gambling as a way for having fun.
We can improve ourselves to be a good gambler by learning many things but we can not rely on gambling to makes money. We must knows that gambling is not a place to make money but only for fun.

Firstly let me start by spotting out the fact that as a gambler if the full thrust of your aim or reason for gambling is solely to make enough money to make you rich then you are obviously on a wrong trail and as such you will likely end up losing so much money compared to the normal average gambler. In the case of all these accompanied by nasty gambling addictions, the person could very well likely drift into gambling addiction.  
Of course sincerely no one wants or very much likes to lose in gambling therefore it's safe to say that every gambler still has the aim to make some money however that doesn't mean it should be made a core aim. Most times people who gradually drift or morph into gambling addicts are people that gamble solely because they want some money.

Development sounds a little bit off, but it's almost also the same thing since there is growth and improvement or there is backslide and discouragement.
 
Either if someone checks their bet history and sees the amount spent and the amount they have spent on their monthly bets and removes it from the about they have been able to win so far, if their is profit they will be able to know, and if all that have ever been is losing more compared to what they spend, then their will be need to restrategize. 
 
It's more profitable to me in sports betting when new league seasons just get started.

Even though the type of gambling that we are playing is mostly luck-dependent, I think we can still be able to grow or develop as a player. I mean as a starter, we usually can lose our control easily if we are winning and losing but not anymore once we already gained enough experience. So, you shouldn't discriminate and say that those who play for fun are not allowed to post here.

There are even players that no matter how hard they try to take things seriously, the results are still the same poor. They don't have any improvement. It will still depend on the individual after all but if you ask me if I learned anything from my entire gaming history, I'm glad to say yes. I've learned a lot of things. Thanks to the people that I've came across with because I don't think it will be possible if without them and also to this forum as well. Not just gambling knowledge it can give but also capital.

Anyways, if it's about making a profit in the long term, it was actually the sports betting is the one that can make it possible. That is because number one, I think they don't have a house edge and number two, you can literally improve here (you know, your knowledge about the game).

Of course I'm developed or improved a lot especially in the case of money management, emotion management and time management.
Years ago when I was still newbie in gambling, I did it blindly without any money management, easier to be affected emotionally especially when I lost and I gambled without time management.
Although your main question is related to sports and while I'm a casino games player, but I believe the 3 things I mentioned above applied on both sports and casino.
But when it comes to winning statistic, knowlegde, or about analysis, these are applied more on sports so I have less experience about it.

After years of gambling, did you start to win risky bets or did your win rate changed significantly? Or only became more familiar with sports, teams, tournaments, leagues? When you open, for example, football betting table and see list of teams, with time, is it easier for your to notice a bet then you will most probably win? Or you only have developed a feeling when you know when it is enough gambling for you for today and it is just more easy to stop?

The big question in the title sounds silly, whatever type of gambling you play will of course provide a new experience that can change your mindset. You're right, the longer we gamble, the more we know where our mistakes are as individual and player. I also used to gamble without knowing the time, without having any management there which in the end made me almost become a problem gambler.

Prediction is always a hard decision, and may not be mastered by any gambler. Trying to advance in it, will only deceive the player, as a result of the eccentric outcomes of matches. A times, the winner of a match can be predicted, based on the unequal strengths of players in both teams. But, most often, the surprises of watching incompetent teams beat strong opponents worsens the purpose of trying to develop in forecasting games.

Honestly speaking, I can't say that there is development in me as a casino player in this field of crypto. Although I only play when I have the time, and I'm always limited to 30 dollars
when I enter the casino just to play.

And I always lose, though I'm not sad because even then I'm still happy, because it's the same with gambling; don't expect to win. Also, I don't think gambling is a source of income,
but this is just for may opinion only, nothing else.

Sometimes gambling can help and it helped me once, I was in debt and didn't see any valid alternative to pay that debt fast as I needed to clear it within a few days so I decided to go the bold way, buying bonuses with a good amount of money and it hit, of course this is not at all financial advice as it happens one in a million and I never suggest anyone go that route, I did because I was truly desperate and no way out for me so I think God decided to help me in that situation.

When it comes to sport betting you never get better at predicting because there are many variables that you cannot predict with the main one being the referee behavior, you simply don't know what in the world that man is thinking when making decisions for a certain game and we have seen through VAR many times that they intentionally insist on their wrong decision, this deserves a massive punishment which never seem to happens and UEFA/FIFA is happy with how things are that is why is worthless to go on sport betting, better through slots as you know you are playing against luck there so no need to get mad while if a referee ruins my sport betting I get mad to say the least.

Gambling is not entirely based on luck. It is entirely based on luck for those who have no previous experience and place their bets on the chest. Every game has some tricks if you get good experience with that game and know how to play that game properly then you will understand many tricks to win in that game. And you can win more than new gamblers in the same game. So in this case it can be said that gambling does not depend entirely on luck but some aspects also depend on one's own experience. But since I don't use gambling as a profession and am not interested in doing it, I don't develop gambling games myself.

Could you please explain to me what factor besides luck can be used in these games?

If you are referring to bankroll control, then I agree with you because increasing or decreasing your bets according to the bad luck/luck of the moment is indeed important, but in a game where the next result is completely unpredictable (unrelated to any external factor) it is impossible to predict the next result or say that the probability of "A" is greater than that of "B".

This scenario changes, for example, if you are betting on a card game, such as poker, where it is possible to calculate the probabilities of the next play based on the cards that have already been turned over so far.

But in a slot machine or a dice game, where the probability of the next bet is the same as the previous one, it is impossible to predict and create a strategy.

If you can identify a change in your approach to gambling that leads to better prevention then that is certainly good news, and I also think that the more important development is when the development leads to prevention such as the change in approach that you have experienced.
And on the other hand maybe I would say that you are one of those people who are able to learn from the experience where previously you were an impulsive gambler but now you are able to change it for the better by setting limits on money, time and emotions.

That is a change that is very rare for a gambler to make, it is not impossible but what is certain is that the majority of them always find it difficult to make peace with themselves for all the money they have lost so that over time instead of changing everything for the better they tend to become more aggressive.

Since gambling is not just of one types, we have  slot and sports games, I really do believe that sport games deals of combination of gambler's skill and luck and a player actually needs to develop those skill before they can hope for luck while staking. If one doesn't have a knowledge about sport betting, sport activities and events, I doubt they can be able to make accurate prediction, therefore, it's necessary they develop those knowledge. Just my opinion.

It is true, everyone cannot possibly have a sense of desire to change their life for the better and as I said before what differentiates people from one another is how they do it right or wrong. If people enter the gambling environment just to change their lives to get rich quickly, then that kind of thinking is very wrong and it is possible that people like that see the changes in the lives of other gamblers that they show only the good impacts even though the bad impacts are very terrible.

I’m not developing as a player in casinos at all. If anything I’ve devolving into a degen. Not really, but I can’t say I’ve tried to make any sort of an effort to develop my gambling skills. That just isn’t the reason I do it. I do it to add some excitement and develop my sports watching techniques if anything. Always seeking maximum enjoyment.

It is not possible to do anything good in life by developing gambling skills. Because it's a completely bad habit. If you have to develop yourself then it should be about any good and potential skills that can help us to survive in this competitive world. Gambling is only a place of entertainment but for those who use it as a source of passive income like a job or business. They will never do anything good in their life. Because even if gambling wins you a few times, a single loss will take all your money again

Anything that means forecasting is going to be very complicated , because there are many factors that can influence the decision of many things, among them is luck, many times it can change even go against us, in sports it happens, not to mention betting on the South American World Cup qualifiers where anything can happen, Argentina losing to Colombia , and Bolivia winning all its games at the altitude of "el Alto" in Bolivia , are things that sometimes take us out of normal logic and can turn the results around, it is a simple example of the things that can happen.