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Serious Questions About Shuffle.com (Launched by Former FTX Employee)

Hello everyone,

I wanted to bring up some serious concerns regarding Shuffle.com, a new platform launched by Noah Dummett, a former employee of FTX. Here are some key points that need your attention, and I’m curious if anyone else has noticed these issues or has additional information:

Background Concerns

1. Noah Dummett's FTX Connection:
   - Noah Dummett, who previously worked at FTX, is behind the launch of Shuffle.com. Given the collapse of FTX and the legal issues surrounding its operations, does anyone else feel uneasy about the integrity and transparency of Shuffle.com?

2. Anonymous Key Personnel:
   - There are key individuals at Shuffle.com using aliases, such as "Cam" and "Brett." It’s been suggested that "Cam" knows Noah from earlier days, and both he and "Brett" are operating under false names. Has anyone else encountered these individuals or have any insight into why they might be using pseudonyms?

3. Potential Operational Similarities to FTX:
   - Given Noah’s history with FTX, it’s crucial to consider whether Shuffle.com might be employing similar operational strategies that led to FTX’s downfall. Has anyone observed any concerning patterns in Shuffle.com's financial transactions, bonus systems, or user fund management practices?

Immediate Actions for Community and Stakeholders

1. Demand Transparency:
   - Should we as a community demand full transparency about the identities of the key personnel at Shuffle.com and their roles within the company?

2. Investigate Transaction Patterns:
   - Are there any blockchain experts here who can help analyze Shuffle.com's transaction history for unusual or suspicious activities, such as repeated small transfers or large sums being moved without clear purpose?

3. Cross-Reference Known Issues:
   - Can anyone help cross-reference Shuffle.com's practices and personnel with known issues and individuals from the FTX collapse? Reviewing public records, legal filings, and other sources of information could be crucial.

4. Engage Regulatory Bodies:
   - Should we report any suspicious activities or findings to relevant regulatory authorities to ensure a thorough investigation is conducted?

5. Community Vigilance:
   - Is everyone willing to stay vigilant and share any suspicious findings with the community? Collective awareness and action can help prevent potential fraud and protect users.

Conclusion

Given the questionable background of its founder, Noah Dummett, and the use of aliases by key personnel, there are serious concerns about the legitimacy of Shuffle.com. It is crucial for the community and stakeholders to demand transparency, thoroughly investigate transaction patterns, and report any suspicious activities to regulatory bodies.

If anyone has additional information or insights into the operations of Shuffle.com, please share them here. Ensuring transparency and protecting users is our collective responsibility.

Thank you!

I am not sure how deep should previous employment record affect one's future career. Is he heavily involved and one of the key person in the decision making behind FTX downfall?

Regarding alias [anonymous key personnel], I am somewhat sure that username like "bob" or "alice" from many platform is not their real name either. Representative of casinos on this forum uses "aliases", they operate under the username of the casino they work for [BC.Game Support, FortuneJack, Sportsbet.io, Rollbit Razer], and even when I get in touch personally with them and they signed their correspondencies with me with a name, I can't be 100% sure that's their real name or just a persona they choose to be used on their career, just like I am extremely sure the name "holydarkness" is not the real name of someone I personally and intimately know.

If you need to know the real identity of people behind shuffle, I think you can inquire to ndumm, see if he'll be a bit lenient and will doxx his own staff for you. Or perhaps do some digging and look into their company registries, I believe some real name will be listed there.

So far, though, I rely on the reputation of each and every casino to determine whether a casino should be approached with a degree of caution or not, and Shuffle is yet to show any yellow flag.

1: Noah have been open about this, and spoken about this in his interviews. There's no other "connection" then working for them. And he has worked for bitmex as well, or is that less shady? Their CEO got jailed too. Do you really think that FTX employees haven't already been investigated during the aftermath of the fall? How are we going to do a better job then FBI on this?

Shuffle a private company, and i am pretty sure that they don't need to give names of their employees for the public. It's a matter of security and privacy. You might be able to dig them from some public payroll record, but i don't know how that works in overseas.

Not sure how this would even matter, or how would we get access to this data. And i don't think that any "bonus systems" had anything to do with the fall of ftx.

What do you mean by stakeholders? Just because we play in there or own $shfl, we aren't stakeholders. But by all means, we can demand a lot and transparency never hurt anyone. Just keep in mind that we also need to accept some limits on that, because with companies that are responsible for god knows how big amounts of customers crypto, there has to be ton of privacy and that means less ways to have an access to their "key" employees by social engineering.

Noah has been open about this, and spoken about this in his interviews. There's no other "connection" than working for them. And he has worked for BitMEX as well, or is that less shady? Their CEO got jailed too. Do you really think that FTX employees haven't already been investigated during the aftermath of the fall? How are we going to do a better job than the FBI on this?

Shuffle is a private company, and I am pretty sure that they don't need to give names of their employees to the public. It's a matter of security and privacy. You might be able to dig them from some public payroll record, but I don't know how that works overseas.

Not sure how this would even matter, or how we would get access to this data. And I don't think that any "bonus systems" had anything to do with the fall of FTX.

What do you mean by stakeholders? Just because we play in there or own $shfl, we aren't stakeholders. But by all means, we can demand a lot and transparency never hurt anyone. Just keep in mind that we also need to accept some limits on that, because with companies that are responsible for god knows how big amounts of customers' crypto, there has to be a ton of privacy and that means fewer ways to have access to their "key" employees by social engineering.

OP, please learn to quote properly, or drop the act of not knowing how to quote, it's confusing. I somehow have a feeling that this is a disposable account and you have an existing account here.

Addressing your post as a whole, by the same logic, any company which founded by and/or employ someone who has previously worked in a troublesome company, are worth questioning. Here's a fun fact of life, in case you're lucky and privileged enough to never experienced it first hand: shit happens and mother nature is a bitch.

I don't think it's fair to hold Noah for something that happened on his past employment, is it? Especially as he contributes nothing to the downfall of it?

And anonymous staff, I'll repeat what I said on previous post, I suggest you to PM Noah and see if he'll be kind enough to tell you who work on what and all their background [this is a sarcasm]. Otherwise, gain proper authority and inquire an investigation to their company registration, I believe some name are listed there, real name.

Oh, further, about key personnel in financial services using alias... how sure are you when you call your bank and a customer service answered your call and introduce herself as "Samantha", that's her real name? Or when their financial or loan staff do a telemarketing and offers a loan, the "hi, this is Robert from Barclays" is a real Robert instead of a Nathan Edwardson by birth?


Previously, all of your post is about a discussion and speculation, of which I address with similar manner, but with this above... I'll appreciate a concrete evidence to back up this claim, if you have any. This is a serious allegation, and last I check, this thread is on scam accusations board. We run on evidence here.

First, let me clarify that my intention is not to confuse or misuse the quoting function.

Regarding the broader issue of whether any company founded or employing someone with a background in a troublesome company should be questioned, it's important to recognize that due diligence is a crucial part of assessing the trustworthiness and integrity of any new venture. While it's true that "shit happens" and not every individual should be held accountable for the actions of their previous employers, in the case of Noah Dummett and Shuffle.com, there are specific reasons for concern.

Noah Dummett was not a mere employee at FTX; he held a significant position that potentially exposed him to the inner workings and strategic decisions of the company. The collapse of FTX was not a simple case of misfortune; it involved complex financial mismanagement and questionable practices that had far-reaching consequences. Understanding Noah's role and influence within FTX is crucial to assessing whether similar practices could be carried over to Shuffle.com.

It's important to note that during the FTX collapse, multiple employees were involved in the company's operations and strategic decisions. While Noah might not have been directly responsible for the downfall, his involvement in a company with such severe financial mismanagement raises valid concerns about his approach to running Shuffle.com. Transparency about his role and actions during his time at FTX can help alleviate some of these concerns and build trust in his new venture.

Furthermore, Noah's involvement with BitMEX, another controversial company in the crypto space, adds another layer of concern. BitMEX faced significant legal challenges, including charges against its founders for violating anti-money laundering laws. While Noah may not have been directly implicated in these issues, his association with multiple companies that have faced serious legal and ethical challenges cannot be overlooked. It raises questions about the practices he may bring to Shuffle.com and whether there is a pattern of involvement in high-risk ventures without adequate oversight and compliance.

Regarding the use of aliases, while it is common in customer service and other industries to use pseudonyms for various reasons, the context here is different. When key personnel involved in financial operations choose to remain anonymous, it raises questions about accountability and trust. Knowing the real identities of those making critical financial decisions is essential to ensure transparency and prevent potential misuse of power.

I understand the suggestion to contact Noah directly or investigate company registrations for real names. However, gaining proper authority to inquire about such details is not always feasible for individual users. The expectation is not for Noah to doxx his staff but to provide a level of transparency that builds trust and confidence in the operations of Shuffle.com.

In conclusion, the scrutiny is not about holding Noah accountable for his past employment at FTX and BitMEX, but about ensuring that the same problematic practices do not carry over to Shuffle.com. Transparency, accountability, and ethical practices are vital for any financial platform, especially in the volatile world of cryptocurrencies. Continuous vigilance and proactive inquiry are necessary to protect users and ensure the integrity of the platform.

Has he been investigated-and-cleared or proven-guilty by any of the investigating bodies who investigate both companies?


May I perhaps propose another way to prove the reputation of Shuffle? By tracking complaints the players of his platform have on this forum and take a good guesstimate from them? I believe, given your extensive research into him and the very thorough and well written posts, you'll find and notice there is an easy way to accomplish this DD of scam accusations against Shuffle.

Oh, still waiting for that accusation for Cam? I believe it's a serious allegation and would like to pursue and/or get it cleared.

So you think that Suffle.com isn't genuine because it was found by someone who worked at FTX? Is that even a valid reason to create scam accusation against a casino? If you have any proof about their scam then show that otherwise creating such topics is only a sign of envy against a platform or against its owner.

I wonder what the OP is accusing Shuffle of there is evidence or some kind of article linking Noah Dummet to FTX?

I think this is just a theory that the OP is doing without any evidence we don't see this as an accusation or any other unrest, so prove it for everyone to know what the OP is talking about.

Hey, I can tell you put some time into writing this so I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt that you're doing this out of concern for the community and not because you're trying to throw mud on Shuffle's name.

1. As a few people have already mentioned, I am very public about working at both BitMEX and FTX. I'm proud of what I accomplished there, and anyone who interacted with me while I was there should be able to give you a good character reference if you're interested in it. I left in mid-2021, FTX went down in November of 2022; if you're discounting everyone who worked there at any point of FTX's history, you're discounting hundreds of great people who had nothing to do with the fraudulent actions which led to the collapse. To suggest that I'm running Shuffle in the same way that FTX was run is quite disrespectful; at FTX I learnt a lot about how to build a product, and a lot about how not to run a company.

2. Shuffle is one of the most transparent teams in the crypto casino space. You can do a quick search and find a lot of background on me, and a very large portion of our management team. We do livestreams every week with different members of our team, and most team members have their full name as their usernames on various social media platforms - we make no effort to hide ourselves because we have nothing to hide. Of course, there are risks and safety concerns to doing this, and I respect that not all members of the team are as keen as I to be public-facing. This is the case with plenty of companies in finance, crypto, and wagering. A question to you; can you name 3 crypto casinos that have a more public team than ours?

3. If you have any instances of this please let me know, but it's in quite bad faith to make a suggestion that we're operating fraudulently with nothing to point to that would suggest that.

All of your suggestions are good suggestions, and you should be doing this to anyone you trust your money with, including all other crypto casinos. If you have concerns about anyone's responsible gambling commitments, I would encourage you to follow that up, because it's a serious matter. Again, I'm hopeful that you are a genuinely concerned observer and not someone who may be trying to smear the Shuffle brand - hopefully this helps clarify for you.

I once offered tips to people for posting reviews on TrustPilot, and Noah messaged me, warning that I would be banned if I continued.

Noah is an honest person.

Regarding FTX, remember that it had hundreds of employees. Please consider the complexity before making broad statements.

Thank you for your response. I appreciate your willingness to engage in this discussion and your dedication to transparency. However, I have a few points and concerns that I feel need to be addressed:

Past Employment and Current Practices:

While I acknowledge the openness about your work history at BitMEX and FTX, the concern isn't just about past affiliations. It's about ensuring that past mistakes, particularly those that led to significant collapses like FTX, are not repeated. It's encouraging that you’ve learned valuable lessons, but the community needs concrete assurances that Shuffle.com operates differently. His history can either be a testament to your growth or a shadow if not addressed transparently and proactively.

Transparency of the Team:

It’s commendable that Shuffle aims to be one of the most transparent teams in the crypto casino space. However, the issue isn't just about visibility but about accountability and ethical practices. While some team members might prefer privacy, the use of aliases, particularly by key personnel like Cam, raises concerns. Transparency isn’t just about being seen; it’s about being accountable. There are indeed other crypto casinos with public-facing teams, and it’s vital for Shuffle to meet and exceed these standards to build trust.

Operational Integrity:

The suggestion of fraudulent operations is serious, and I understand the need for substantial evidence before making such claims. However, community concerns about ethical practices, particularly regarding how Cam handles issues related to addiction, are significant. The perception that Cam appears to enjoy others' suffering is alarming and warrants a thorough investigation and response from the team.

Community and Ethical Concerns:

I am indeed concerned about the well-being of the community and the ethical operation of platforms within the crypto space. My goal isn't to smear Shuffle's name but to ensure that platforms like Shuffle are held to the highest standards. Addressing these concerns head-on, with transparency and accountability, is crucial for building trust and ensuring that Shuffle.com remains a reputable and ethical player in the industry.

Additionally, considering the many opportunities within the crypto space, it's concerning why Shuffle would choose to operate in one of the most contentious and least regulated areas. This choice inherently brings additional scrutiny and requires an even greater commitment to transparency and ethical practices.

I hope these points clarify my position and the concerns raised. Ensuring the integrity and ethical operation of Shuffle.com is in everyone's best interest, and I appreciate your efforts towards this goal.

It's good to hear that Noah took steps to maintain integrity on review platforms. However, it's essential to look at the broader context of his previous high-ranking position and the potential influence of his decisions at FTX. While he may have had positive interactions, it doesn't entirely mitigate the need for transparency and accountability, especially given the significant impact of FTX's collapse.

Regarding the complexity of FTX's operations and the many employees involved, I fully acknowledge that not everyone was part of the fraudulent activities. My concern is focused on ensuring that lessons have been learned and that such practices are not carried over to Shuffle.com. Noah's high position at FTX puts him in a place where his actions and decisions carry significant weight, and it is reasonable to seek assurance that Shuffle.com operates with the highest ethical standards.

It's not about making broad statements but rather about safeguarding the community and ensuring that Shuffle.com is transparent and accountable in its operations. Trust is built through continuous vigilance and a commitment to ethical practices, which should be evident in every aspect of the platform.

Moreover, even if Noah is innocent, he can thank Cam for these allegations. Cam's behavior and apparent disregard for people, particularly those struggling with gambling addiction, have brought these serious concerns to light. His actions and attitude reflect poorly on the entire organization and highlight the need for stringent ethical standards and accountability.

If Noah and the Shuffle team are genuinely committed to this, further transparency and clear communication about their practices and the measures they take to prevent any unethical behavior would be greatly appreciated by the community.

Last I check, I shouldn't have any personal interest in defending Shuffle, since I am not involved with them in any degree imaginable. If you have that strong feeling, it's in your head. But let's address that instead of sweeping them under the rug, which part of my post makes you feel such strong feeling?

Moving to cam, this serves as a comment to your last post above about Cam too, I believe you're the one who initially alleges that their staff, pseudonamed Cam, has a serious issue in addressing gambling addiction, perhaps amongst other trait. So, I believe it should be you that proves the accusation is not baseless and completely founded instead of asking me [or anyone else] to prove that your statement is invalid? Do I understand things backwardly?

I think you already got your answers and you also admitted the transparency of Noah and now it's useless to ask those questions. I suggest you to close the thread and be a gentle person and when you have any kind of solid proof against Shuffle only then create scam accusation against them.

Actually... I don't think this thread has meet its conclusion and should be locked. Other than the point clarified above, OP also proposes an accusation that one of Shuffle's staff and a representative on this forum, Cam, to be somewhat --what I can only summarize as-- unethical. I think we'll still need OP to clarify whether he'll drop this one by saying that his accusation is baseless or to provide evidence to support the statement.

Let's be clear: the purpose of this thread is not to be dismissed or locked just because uncomfortable truths are being discussed. The questions raised here are far from resolved, and it’s important to address them rather than sweep them under the rug.

Regarding Cam, the concern is not baseless speculation but a reflection of how his actions have been perceived by those who have interacted with him. His apparent disregard for the well-being of players, particularly those struggling with addiction, is more than just a minor issue—it’s a significant ethical concern. The fact that these behaviors are being brought to light suggests that there is a real issue here, not something to be casually dismissed.

Rather than attempting to shut down the discussion, I would expect Shuffle.com, and those defending it, to welcome a thorough investigation and a transparent resolution. If Cam’s actions are beyond reproach, then there should be no fear in addressing these concerns head-on and providing the necessary evidence to clear his name. However, if these allegations have merit, it is imperative that they are addressed, and appropriate actions are taken to prevent any further harm.

Locking this thread without resolving these issues would be a disservice to the community and would only raise more questions about what’s being hidden. Let’s focus on transparency, accountability, and ensuring that those in positions of power within the crypto gambling space are held to the highest ethical standards.

If Shuffle.com is confident in its operations and the behavior of its staff, then there should be no hesitation in continuing this discussion until all concerns are satisfactorily addressed.

Do you want me to share here conversations of Cam? I will be gladly to do so, the entire community is beyond depressed of lovely Cam.

If I am not wrong then Shuffle.com is not here for short term. They have been paying out their players regularly, keeping a good reputation on the community from long time. An ex FTX employee [if it is true] does not mean that he or she can have their own business. Their life does not stop just because FTX stopped. There were many talented people on FTX and all of them have the ability to create something good which will bring good to the cryptocurrency industry.

Your motivation is questionable. I think first you need to establish a level of trust to hear you before anything else. What brought you to create this topic?

The first thing I would state is that by default there is automatically nothing wrong of being an employee of an organisation that went bankrupt due to mass fraud. I think it depends on what level the employee was involved in the bankrupt-via-fraud organisation. After that, I would look at the reputation Shuffle.com has in the forum and by that I specifically mean the Scam Accusation board.

I think there are several threads about them but nothing to my knowledge was attributed to the website conducting in scam behaviour. Though you might have motives to post here we should not be trying guess what they are, you should have elaborated on your association to this matter in the OP.

If their owner/operator worked at FTX and Bitmex, why is that a big concern for you? And using aliases in not a big issue to be worried about. Employees in many companies do the same because they do not want to give their real names. If the owner/operator has given his name and previous connection to tech companies, why is it a problem for you if employees use aliases?

If you can provide the conversation, it'll be very much appreciated, so ndumm [or perhaps cam himself, though he's been inactive for a while now] can give their insight about this

This concern is only valid if Noah himself is the one who committed fraud but for a normal employee of a business that once provide a legit service this accusation is totally unfair just because he work on FTX.

So far Shuffle doesn’t have any existing scam accusation and provides solid service to all its customers. I think it’s not a big deal his background if his current company is operating well. If Shuffle was owned by SBF then I will agree that this company needs a thorough investigation.

I think most people would probably agree with you. What compounds the perspective even further is that there were zero allegations made in the OP about even the slightest direct impropriety conducted by the ex-employee while working at FTX.

It seems the OP cited the fact that some employees of the casino are giving their full names and instead use alias (as well as the ex-employee of FTX connection) as a major concern. That might have been prominent when the Shuffle casino started but before reading this thread how many people knew about the connection?

In my opinion, until or unless there are serious scam allegations made against them I would not look too much in to what the OP has stated.

It was never a secret. Noah himself has talked about this in a video. He left FTX in 2021 while FTX issue happened on 2022.

In summary,


OP made a accusation against the founder of Shuffle.com namely Noah in the regard of "potential risks". These claims are obviously silly to any user that has read the replies because every single person has come to the same logistical conclusion of "it was a legitimate company when he was working there." I mean, it at least APPEARED to be. That's how a multi billion dollar scam works. It appears to be legit to even most core employees, not just the hundreds of thousands of users that are actually pretty damn smart, unless they were in on it. The scam was really fucking good, it tricked plenty of people with IQs triple of mine. That's why it stole billions!!!


Noah has no history of doing anything SBF did or anything of the sense so Noahs accusation holds 0 weight.



Secondly,



OP made a accusation against "Cam" at Shuffle.com regarding unethical business practices that he has failed to provide any evidence for.



So,



Unless OP gives concrete proof of his accusations against Cam @ Shuffle.com, this thread should stop being replied to and bumped because there are more important things that require attentions in the Scam Accusations section. There's nothing to debate.

And where did you get the impression this is a productive place for such a discussion? This is the "Scam Accusations" section, not a freaking tea party.  Is there an evidence of actual scam?


You are not entitled to speak on behalf of the "entire" community.

I understand it was never a secret but it was also never a problem either for those that knew about it. It was never (to my knowledge) even discussed as a possible reason for others to avoid using Shuffle and members were never advised to take precautions before.

Yet for some unknown reason the OP decided to create this thread with an extensive amount of text and detail to advise anybody reading it about the possible dangers of using the Shuffle website.

He deliberately has not explained what drove him to create this thread yet is asking for transparency from the Shuffle team.

In fact, a sad player (and partner) spoke to him yesterday right after he deleted him :) He will probably be very mad at me for sharing this but hey, at crypto(casinos) you can do anything you want right?

The funny par,t my friend. Cam is never inactive - in fact Cam sees everything and is aways online only he choses of course hen to respond at his comfortable safe place. The part that worries me the most is that you are defending somebody you absolutely don't know a thing about - please don't get me wrong I'm only here to protect people against anything that triest to take advantage.

This doesn't directly confirms the addiction part (it does a bit) but I'm just curious about your opinion.

https://i.ibb.co/gP4Zdrq/photo-2024-08-13-23-07-20.jpg

There is a screenshot of the conversation and here a transcript:

Cam Shuffle:

Not trying to dismiss your feelings but I have so many players pissed off at their current casino asking to transfer to Shuffle I can’t keep up.
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If you want to be denied lossback when you’re down and talk to a robot you could try Stake.
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Or if you want to be blatantly scammed, have your withdrawals locked, and talk to a host who barely speaks English you could try bcgame.
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are these dissatisfied players in the room with us?

You:
No it are actually all the people who give you the feeling Shuffle is the best and you are the best host ever because they will do anything to get anything because their dried out wallet isn’t giving even a blink of hope anymore.
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Most of those you speak daily, only of course you have no clue how it goes within the community because you only chose to feed your ego.
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That’s what we call a poker-face and I’m absolutely not talking about myself.

Indeed, Stalker, this isn't a damn tea party—these are people's lives being ruined. Gambling (addiction) destroys families, livelihoods, and futures. When individuals like Cam, who represent Shuffle.com, show a blatant disregard for the well-being of players, it goes beyond a simple business transaction. It becomes a moral issue that affects real people in devastating ways.

While you may dismiss this as a discussion unfit for the "Scam Accusations" section, the reality is that unethical practices can be just as harmful as outright scams. When staff members treat people with disrespect, mock their struggles, and ignore the consequences of their actions, it’s not just bad customer service—it’s a serious breach of trust and responsibility.

If you think this doesn’t belong here, perhaps you need to reassess what qualifies as a legitimate concern. The community deserves better, and we won’t be silenced just because some find it uncomfortable to confront these issues head-on.

Don't you agree?

Let's clarify a few things here.

First, it's important to understand that the intention behind raising these concerns isn't to hurl baseless accusations or discredit anyone without cause. The aim is to ensure that we, as a community, are vigilant and proactive in assessing potential risks, especially given the history of the industry we’re dealing with. The collapse of FTX serves as a stark reminder that what appears legitimate on the surface can have deep-seated issues lurking beneath. It's not about accusing Noah of being another SBF, but rather ensuring that due diligence is performed so that we don't find ourselves blindsided again.

Noah may very well be an upstanding individual with no history of wrongdoing. The point isn’t to say he’s guilty of anything, but to emphasize the need for transparency and accountability in an industry that has seen its fair share of deceit. Even if Noah was unaware of any fraudulent activities at FTX, it’s still prudent for us to scrutinize the practices of any new venture he’s involved in—especially one in a highly unregulated and risky sector like online gambling.

Now, regarding Cam at Shuffle.com, my concerns aren't accusations in the traditional sense but rather red flags that need further examination. The lack of transparency and the behavior reported by some users suggest that there could be deeper issues that merit attention. This isn’t about proving guilt right here, right now—it's about raising awareness so that we all take a closer look. If there’s nothing to hide, then these concerns should be easy to address and dispel.

And let’s be very clear about one thing: in an industry like crypto where regulations are minimal at best and often non-existent, asking tough questions isn’t just a precaution—it’s a necessity. We’re dealing with a space where companies can operate with near-total impunity, and where the balance of power is heavily tilted in favor of the casino operators. They hold all the cards, and if they choose to act unethically, there’s little to nothing stopping them.

So, I ask you—what harm is there in demanding transparency? What’s wrong with wanting to ensure that those who hold such immense power in this industry are acting in good faith? This isn’t about trying to bring someone down; it’s about protecting ourselves and our community from the very real risks that come with unchecked power. If Shuffle.com is as above-board as some claim, then these questions should be welcomed, not dismissed.

This thread isn’t just about debating who’s right or wrong; it’s about ensuring we all have the full picture before dismissing potential issues. The crypto space has seen too many instances where lack of oversight led to catastrophic outcomes. Let's not fall into the trap of complacency.

If this discussion helps even one person avoid a bad situation, then it's worth continuing. I urge everyone to remain open-minded and to keep this conversation going until all concerns are fully addressed and resolved. Transparency and accountability should never be viewed as unnecessary, especially in this space.

The reason this thread exists is simple: due diligence. Just because something wasn’t a problem before doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be scrutinized now, especially in an industry as volatile as crypto. My goal is to ensure transparency and protect the community. If raising concerns about potential risks and demanding accountability makes you uncomfortable, then perhaps that says more about the situation than the thread itself. Transparency goes both ways.

Update: Brett, Cam’s Brother, and His Role at Shuffle

It has come to my attention that another key figure at Shuffle.com, Brett, is Cam's brother. Brett also holds a significant role within the company, and unfortunately, his behavior seems to mirror that of Cam, raising additional concerns about the company’s overall approach to customer interaction and community management.

In a recent review of conversations, Brett displayed a pattern of dismissiveness and a lack of accountability when handling customer issues. For instance:

- Aggressive and Dismissive Behavior: Brett, like Cam, appears to dismiss user concerns without providing adequate reasoning. In one interaction, Brett muted a user for 30 days but refused to provide a clear explanation or retrieve chat logs to justify the action, stating, "I am the one who decides whether or not something is justified to mute a player and today I decided to mute him." When pressed for screenshots or further explanation, Brett chose to disengage, saying he had "work to get done."

- Failure to Address Community Concerns: Brett also failed to properly address community feedback, leading to confusion and dissatisfaction among users. When the chat community questioned why a user was muted, Brett did not provide clarity or engage meaningfully, which only worsened the situation.

These interactions suggest a troubling culture within Shuffle, where dismissiveness and a lack of transparency are not isolated incidents but rather part of a broader pattern among key personnel. This is particularly concerning when both Cam and Brett are in positions of influence, as it raises questions about the overall management and ethical standards of the company.

Citations:

- "I am the one who decides whether or not something is justified to mute a player and today I decided to mute him." (Message ID 569611)
- "I have players to attend to and work to get done." (Message ID 569626)

Alright, I know who you are after your latest message, and I no longer believe that you're acting with good intentions for the community. This thread exists to attempt to tarnish Shuffle's reputation because you are regularly muted for being incredibly toxic to our staff, our platform and our players.

Brett doesn't owe you any response after some of the things I've seen you say about and to him. Please either send some form of proof that any of our hosts have not acted in the interest of responsible gambling, or close the thread. This will be my last reply, I would recommend that no one else in this thread give any more time to this guy until he provides some form of indisputable proof (which I'm confident won't come, because our hosts take player welfare incredibly seriously).

 

If you’re truly the founder of Shuffle, then it’s on you to make sure these concerns are handled with the transparency you talk about. Instead of accusing me of having some hidden agenda, why not show that you’re serious about being open with your community?

And just so we’re clear, I’m not the person you’re accusing here. My goal is to bring up issues that many people in the community have noticed—things that, as the person leading this platform, you should be eager to address, not dismiss.

Your defnsive stance doesn’t really help ease the concerns of those of us who are genuinely worried about Shuffle’s direction. Instead of trying to shut this conversation down, why not engage and actually talk about the specific issues we’ve raised? If Shuffle is as ethical and responsible as you say, there shouldn’t be any problem addressing these concerns openly.

As the founder, you should be leading by example, not dodging accountability. Transparency is not just a word; it should be part of everything your platform does. So rather than closing off this discussion, why not show us the proof that Shuffle is living up to the standards you claim? That would do a lot to show the credibility you’re standing by.

Not sure how this website even works as I’ve never been on it before but hopefully this is replying directly to Noah.

No, none of this conversation prior to this message I’m writing now has been me.
I could care less about “shuffles reputation” or anytning else that’s been discussed in this thread.  All I want to know is the exact reason that I was given a month long mute for yesterday. When a friend of mine asked him on telegram, he was unable to provide a good reason aside from telling me that “he decides who gets muted” all he continually said was that I have PREVIOUSLY used bad language, or in other words I have “been toxic” in shuffles chat. And you are saying the exact same thing. Which okay, that’s valid. I can’t deny that. BUT. That was previously. I have already been muted for it and it’s over with.. Brett had 0 reason to mute me yesterday which is exactly why when he was asked to provide screenshots of what message got me muted, he refused.. again- none of the messages in the thread have been me prior to this one right here. I like you Noah I like the platform,I watch the stream every single week (even when I have 0 wager for any of the codes, ) I spent 40 hours in Ishans stream last week lol.. I get that I have been “toxic” previously, but I did nothing yesterday to deserve a month long mute. Regardless if you or Brett want to admit that, literally not one single person in chat at the time, (including myself) understood the reason as to why he muted me, and still don’t. My telegram is gucci_flops if you want to send me a message and explain, I would appreciate it. Thanks Noah.

If you don't mind, I'd like to see this thread to its end and every dirty clothes aired, because it became mildly interesting how OP seemed to accidentally put the clothes into a tumble dryer instead of air drying it, and now he's tumbling all over with his previous statements... I mean the laundry.

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OP, let's play surgery and dissect your statement thus far. I believe I've thoroughly disinfect my hands with the statement that I am not in any degree involved to Shuffle. I've wear the latex glove and yield a scalpel, and...

First


Consulting back to your opening statement,


It called "leading" in court, or in a more common terms, or "to paint someone certain color". You're saying that the point of this thread is not to say he's guilty, rather to emphasize the need of [summarized] us being vigilant, yet the wording on the opening post suggest one should weight the possible risk of integrity and transparency of shuffle for his former employment. Your post above and your opening post has a very different tone.

Second

Next, cam... Cam oh cam... I suddenly wondered what does "cam" stand for.

Cameron? Cambridge? Campbell? Camilo? Camcorder, perhaps?

Speaking about camcorder... which purpose is to record something... do you aware that the forum is being automatically crawled by two different sites made by two extremely prominent members of the forum? As in... recorded, archived, cam...corded, if you wish, so when one delete one post for whatever reason that is, it can easily be dug out.

Such as this one,


of which prompt me to chase this case as I treat neglect to gambling addiction as a very serious matter, and which made me inquire you to provide supporting evidence, of which after several deflection [by asking me to provide proof that your allegation is wrong instead of you providing the evidence for your statement], you said that,



I saved the screenshot in my gallery for future reference if needed. That screenshot though, indeed, doesn't confirm the addiction part. So perhaps you can help us with a better proof?

You alleged Cam of Shuffle handling people with gambling addiction in disrespectful manner, hinting an abuse of responsible gambling act, the proof so far is him ranting and bad mouthing about other casinos, of which... though I find it a bit mean to rant as such, barely covers the point you initially tried to raise [and later deleted] where he failed to address gambling addiction situation.

I'll really appreciate a better evidence. Thank you.

Third


I thought,


Which one is it? They're not transparent enough that should raise a degree of suspicion or they're [apparently] way beyond transparent that you know Brett and Cam are brothers?

Still about Brett, and this is the continuation of your post I snipped above about him,


How is this concerning? If any, the impression I get is that he does his work very greatly that I think he needs a raise [ndumm, in case you read this]. I mean, you literally shows snippets where he weeded out, what I'll strongly assume as, spammers and abusers to ensure the chatbox is clean, and he attends to players.

Where is the part that he does concerning matters that's detrimental and worth questioning Shuffle's overall integrity for employing such key employee?

And oh, four,


Risking to sound extremely redundant, worry not, darling, I am not "defending somebody I absolutely don't know a thing about", I am inquiring a proof of allegation towards someone [now two people]. I'll be very happy if you can revert with better proof to support your allegation.