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Title: Air pollution in middle East and war
Post by: Waldorf77 on August 05, 2024, 09:23:31 AM
Even places like Dubai and qatar there will be air pollution and not only becouse of oil the heavy raining but now the war Will couse Also not balanced climate.
There is large establishment of emirates in London UK so the wealthy ones can go there while war is in middle East.
Btw....the air will become bad there it's not healthy you pay some huge money for Dubai Luxury but you can't breethe clean air ..only way will be stay indoors with filtered air.


Title: Re: Air pollution in middle East and war
Post by: Hispo on August 05, 2024, 09:57:42 AM
Well, when in pacific areas of the world there are cities which have unacceptable atmospheric conditions, as far as I know. Take China for example, there is no ongoing conflict going on there but because theor highly industrialized cities, it is common for their citizens to use face masks and air purifier in their homes. So, it is not exclusively something which happens when a region is at war.
There are also chances many of the middle east end up start  to notice pollution because the quantity of vehicles.


Title: Re: Air pollution in middle East and war
Post by: FatFork on August 05, 2024, 10:32:03 AM
Oh, please. Emirates and Qatar? Everyone knows those places are glorified deserts with air conditioning.  So, spare us the drama. If you can afford to live there, you can afford a top-of-the-line air purifier. It's hardly a crisis.


Title: Re: Air pollution in middle East and war
Post by: damnrancho on August 05, 2024, 10:39:23 AM
And why would the air be dirty from the war? Nuclear weapons, if used, yes, but there will be nothing terrible for the air from conventional battles with conventional weapons


Title: Re: Air pollution in middle East and war
Post by: pooya87 on August 05, 2024, 11:51:38 AM
What war?
The only ongoing war is on the Eastern Mediterranean shores, and it will remain that way specially after the upcoming massive strike Iran is planning to punish the terrorist organization commonly known as Israel.

Nuclear weapons, if used, yes, but there will be nothing terrible for the air from conventional battles with conventional weapons
Only Western powers like US could use a nuke in West Asia and if they do, it would start a global nuclear war that mean nukes detonating in every major state. In such a scenario "air pollution" would not even be among the top 100 concerns of human race.


Title: Re: Air pollution in middle East and war
Post by: Hispo on August 05, 2024, 04:21:33 PM
Oh, please. Emirates and Qatar? Everyone knows those places are glorified deserts with air conditioning.  So, spare us the drama. If you can afford to live there, you can afford a top-of-the-line air purifier. It's hardly a crisis.


The actual crisis which goes on on those "glorified desserts" as you call them, it is the inhumane conditions and ways of living foreigner construction/building workers have to suffer on order for those cities to continue to thrive and expand, that is indeed an humanitarian crisis which nobody paid attention to, expect when the lastest world cup was celebrated there in Qatar and it was revealed to what extent the government and rich of that country can belittle human life, for the sake of money and prestige.
In the Case of Saudi Arabia, the violation of human rights are mostly tied to the lack of personal freedom people have in their society, LGBTQ community in completely non existent there.


Title: Re: Air pollution in middle East and war
Post by: famososMuertos on August 06, 2024, 02:58:29 PM
This has to be an apology for ideas... polluted air, (!?), what do you think of Mexico? Poverty, endless queues at motorways, it's something real... I don't know where your ideas are going, but where the bullets are is not the only place where polluted air exists... If it's your point...


Title: Re: Air pollution in middle East and war
Post by: Hispo on August 06, 2024, 04:15:22 PM
This has to be an apology for ideas... polluted air, (!?), what do you think of Mexico? Poverty, endless queues at motorways, it's something real... I don't know where your ideas are going, but where the bullets are is not the only place where polluted air exists... If it's your point...

To me it is kind of a weird association to make, in the first place. When people think of the middle east and local conflicts there, air pollution is the not first consequence which comes to their minds. Actually, it sounds rather cynical to think of air pollution while there are people being killed and tortured by religious or ideological reasons in those countries.
In the case of Mexico, while it is true it is a nation which faces many problems (many of them associated to cartels), I also believe it is one of the most productive and wealth creating countries in Latin America.


Title: Re: Air pollution in middle East and war
Post by: passwordnow on August 06, 2024, 11:58:01 PM
Even places like Dubai and qatar there will be air pollution and not only becouse of oil the heavy raining but now the war Will couse Also not balanced climate.
There is large establishment of emirates in London UK so the wealthy ones can go there while war is in middle East.
Btw....the air will become bad there it's not healthy you pay some huge money for Dubai Luxury but you can't breethe clean air ..only way will be stay indoors with filtered air.
As for researching, there are only two countries that are zero carbon dioxide emission countries. They're named by this source:  https://net0.com/blog/net-zero-countries

  • Bhutan
  • Suriname

These countries aren't being heard a lot but I think Suriname has been named by a netflix movie that's quite bad so, the government became made onto that movie but I forgot the name of it. As for Bhutan, it seems a peaceful country but getting visa or entering the country there is quite expensive, tricky and hard. While with the progressive countries, those that have a lot of rich people, expect that air pollution will continue to add more until the government starts to be strict with it.

And seemingly with the rumors of war in those regions, those ballistic missiles, rockets, fire arms and all other weapons that will release some gases and smoke, they'll add more to it. It is a meme that I see that people breathe air through cans, I hope that we don't get onto that reality someday and we can still breathe clean air on our areas.  ::)


Title: Re: Air pollution in middle East and war
Post by: tainted_love on August 07, 2024, 03:24:47 AM
Only Western powers like US could use a nuke in West Asia and if they do, it would start a global nuclear war that mean nukes detonating in every major state. In such a scenario "air pollution" would not even be among the top 100 concerns of human race.

No one talks about it, but Israel does have nuclear weapons, they killed a US president to make sure no one got in their way of obtaining them.  It's the most well-know "secret" in global politics.

If you think they wouldn't use them you're underestimating how evil Israel really is.  They even have a name for it, the Samson Option.  They would literally nuke themselves (after mass evacuations, of course) rather than let the Palestinians benefit from the infrastructure they've built with American tax dollars.  As a side benefit, they would kill millions of Palestinians as a going away present.  American tax dollars would then be used to rebuild Palestine, making even more money for the globalist banks and defense contractors, i.e. supporters of Israel.  And since it would be Israel nuking itself, there's little fear of retaliation.  Who's going to retaliate, and against whom?

If the US and Europe ever cease support of Israel, I would be surprised if they didn't pull such a stunt...  And blame Iran.


Title: Re: Air pollution in middle East and war
Post by: pooya87 on August 07, 2024, 10:20:46 AM
If you think they wouldn't use them you're underestimating how evil Israel really is.
Things aren't that simple. Those who have planned the dismantlement of this terrorist organization are more aware of the threat Zionist terrorists and their WMDs pose and their Samson Options more than you and I.

They also have planned for it all. The Zionist organization is much weaker and vulnerable than you think. For example one thing that wasn't really paid attention to during the marvelous military operation called Al-Aqsa Storm on October 7 was that the Palestinian commandos hit the Zionist WMD facilities hard, eliminating all the Israeli terrorists in those facilities and acquired valuable intelligence.

They can do that again at any time specially when the organization is close to its demise and is thinking of activating its terrorist attack called Samson Option. It can be taken control of in a blinking of an eye.

P.S. Lest we forget, the nuclear facilities of this terrorist organization have been in full control of US military ever since those raids proved that Zionists are too incompetent to be allowed to control these WMDs.


Title: Re: Air pollution in middle East and war
Post by: Princeeibn on August 07, 2024, 02:20:32 PM
Even places like Dubai and qatar there will be air pollution and not only becouse of oil the heavy raining but now the war Will couse Also not balanced climate.
There is large establishment of emirates in London UK so the wealthy ones can go there while war is in middle East.
Btw....the air will become bad there it's not healthy you pay some huge money for Dubai Luxury but you can't breethe clean air ..only way will be stay indoors with filtered air.


You bring up some important points about the impact of oil production, heavy rainfall, and regional conflicts on the climate and air quality. It's true that these factors can contribute to air pollution, making it a significant concern for residents and visitors alike.

Regarding the migration of wealthier individuals from the Middle East to places like London, this trend has been observed, especially during times of conflict. It's understandable that people seek safer and healthier environments for themselves and their families.


Title: Re: Air pollution in middle East and war
Post by: 348Judah on August 08, 2024, 03:38:43 PM
Even places like Dubai and qatar there will be air pollution and not only becouse of oil the heavy raining but now the war Will couse Also not balanced climate.

Air pollution were not as a result of the air particles in form of dust in which we see, but there are many other things that we are not seeing are were very disastrous on human health through air pollution, such could be in form of release of harmful chemicals into the air, when lives inhale such, it becomes a toxic to their body immune and some begin to battle with these chemicals for life, it is not by war, nor the dust in which is being experienced during the dry season in the middle east, much more harmful chemicals were made which can destroy lives when released into the air.


Title: Re: Air pollution in middle East and war
Post by: Cgrexp on November 15, 2024, 12:02:54 PM
Even places like Dubai and qatar there will be air pollution and not only becouse of oil the heavy raining but now the war Will couse Also not balanced climate.
There is large establishment of emirates in London UK so the wealthy ones can go there while war is in middle East.
Btw....the air will become bad there it's not healthy you pay some huge money for Dubai Luxury but you can't breethe clean air ..only way will be stay indoors with filtered air.

Air pollution and health problems are on the rise in places like Dubai and Qatar where there is no shortage of money and technology.  Not only in Dubai and Qatar but in many luxury cities around the world where money abounds and modern conveniences abound, environmental challenges are mounting.  It is indeed a strange thing, despite being a luxury, clean air has become a precious and rare resource for the people there to survive.   Basically the main reason behind this is human activities.  Environmental Crisis: Air pollution, climate change and heavy rains are mainly the result of human activities.  Oil production, urbanization, industrialization and excessive travel are all putting pressure on the environment.  Dubai and Qatar are mainly known for their luxury, and the environment pollution due to vehicles has increased a lot.  Humans are the only responsible for the environmental disaster.  Undoubtedly, our over-consumerism and over-use of natural resources are the main reasons.   While focusing on advanced technological luxuries, people forget their responsibility towards nature and this is the reason why such disasters are happening.  However, if we are aware now, then this problem can be reduced to some extent.


Title: Re: Air pollution in middle East and war
Post by: mikeywith on November 16, 2024, 11:12:01 PM
LGBTQ community in completely non existent there.

Do you think that is a bad thing?


Title: Re: Air pollution in middle East and war
Post by: Hispo on November 16, 2024, 11:38:13 PM
LGBTQ community in completely non existent there.

Do you think that is a bad thing?

Yes, I think it is a bad think people can get literally killed in certain parts of the planet because of their own sexuality, which is supposed to be a personal and intimate thing.
I am not implying I completely agree with the values of such community, but if there are people who are not explicitly straight, they still have the basic right to exist and not be isolated or victimized, which absolutely happens in the middle east, I would even go as far as saying it is dangerous not to be straight in certain places within Israel itself, because of the way Orthodox Jews perceive those liberal Jews who are supportive of LGBT.

Personal freedom and personal responsibility, that is what it must be preserved, kind of the opposite which is going on in the United States.


Title: Re: Air pollution in middle East and war
Post by: mikeywith on November 17, 2024, 06:41:24 AM
Yes, I think it is a bad think .

So you want an entire nation to behave in a certain way which is against thier values just to please you and a very tiny minority in their society?

also, are you aware that aside from the U.S and a few countries (mainly controlled by the U.S) the majority of the world does not give that group of people any rights? so you thinking that your country represents the majority of the world and the middle east is an exception is delusional, the vast majority of people on planet earth do not want their daughters to share the same bathroom with a human that has a penis and think they are a woman, if you are okay with that -- by all means, go for it, but do not try to impose it on the rest of us.

 
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I would even go as far as saying it is dangerous not to be straight in certain places within Israel itself.

It is dangerous to be anything but a zionist in Israel, but obviously, many of you are more woried about why can't a few men in the middle east identity as lesbians than the genocide and the apartheid operated by Israel.