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it's a long story but I'll try to make it short as I can for a comprehensively.

Yesterday while I was putting together some predictions for a parley bet as the EPL and other leagues  has just kicked off. In the process I started experiencing network hitches problem which I wasn't getting comfortable with. Suddenly another idea erupted in my head, why not just go straight to any of the sports betting shops closer and book these games at once. So I zoomed off.

On getting there with ease I was able to book my games using their computer and taking my ticket. In the brief time I was in the shop I noticed how one of the cashier was addressing another of the cashier angrily (it was later I learned that he is the head cashier). So out of curiosity I couldn't mind my business, I inquired as to what could be the problem why he was talking with such an angry tune on his coworker.

He then told me how a gambler had walked into the shop and played sessions of virtual games worth #32k (in our local currency) and disappeared without paying. I was confused, like how did that happened I asked. He had to go into details explaining that when the strange guy  played his first game he won #18k for which he didn't ask to be paid but continued gambling using the winning cash until he lost it all back to the shop. Out of confidence, the cashier didn't bother requesting for money for the next sessions thinking that after the guy might have been done gambling he will calculate the total loss for payment to be made or he perhaps might get another lucky win in the middle to cover for it in part or whole since he was able to get a win in the first game played. But unfortunately for him, the strange guy had another intention in mind, disappearing at the slightest minute the cashier's attention was diverted from his sight.

I felt dumbfounded by the stupidity of the cashier as I was speechless to say the least, I just had to tell him that the manager of the shop should install a CCTV camera in the shop to prevent future roguery of this nature.

Questions for discussion:
Why would a gambler adventure in  such a risk knowing the embarrassment he would have received or even getting arrested for it.

If you happen to be the manager of that gambling shop what will be your action towards the foolishness of such an employee. Will it just be an angry shout or beyond that?

Do you think there is any measure through which the strange guy could be identified since there was no CCTV cameras stationed in and outside the shop environs?

I think this is the cashier's fault, he or she should not involved his emotions and follow protocols for players winning and betting. So yeah, the manager has the right to get furious with his cashier.


You just don't know the lengths of what gamblers will do just to continue with their addiction. They are not going to think that they will be arrested or what. All they think is to continue with their gambling as long as they can.


Probably reprimanded, or getting fired, because his/her actions are not acceptable.


Gambling world as small, somehow, somewhere, he or she will identified if there is a installed CCTV to get his image specially his face. And we don't know if he has done it before in other betting shops as well. In short this is not the first time that he had done and he might have known that there are no CCTV on that place and so he took his chance.

1. He found a loophole in that certain casino or whatever it is. I bet that gambler is a patron there and he keeps on coming back until he saw how he could take advantage of them.

2. I will be angry. That's your first reaction to money problems. Why? There's a chance that both of them will be paying whatever is missing. Do you really want to pay for something that is not your fault? I don't think so.

3. Well, like I said, that guy must be coming back and forth there and I guess the neighboring businesses could have CCTV installed in their establishment. They could borrow that and all they need is the time when that certain guy went out.

This is a case where cashiers make mistakes because they trust the person in front of them. Gamblers cannot be trusted especially the addicted ones. It's money and anyone can be blinded by it.

The workers should be blamed but those betting shops are not big enough in a way someone supposed to leave and not got noticed. CCTV camera may not work if the bad person prefer to leave. I have been to betting shops very well, it is about pay the money you want to use for the virtual matches or games and then the agent worker will place the bet for you. Amount won would be given immediately. That is how it is done. Doing it appropriately will be better than CCTV camera.

I am only staying prevention is better than cure. Because with CCTV camera, the person can be known or seen and later be arrested because they saw him on camera, then he has nowhere to run away from the police.

I will be very angry with the person. I may not even believe him. He he did not obey my instructions which is let them pay before you place bet for them. I may deducted the money gradually from his salary based on our agreement.

The sports betting shops in your country has a bad management, the customer need to give the money before able to play, not the other way around. I think this case happened in everywhere, it's risky to let the customer to do whatever they likes but they don't have enough money to pay the bills. The business owner can't do much, it's wasting time to handle this problem, but at the same time they should prevent this case to occur in the future, if not they will ends bankrupt.

This did not happen to the owner of the betting shop but it happened to his employee. What if the employee is lying and just want to get away with the money. But even if the employee is telling the truth, he is the one that should be blamed. Not the betting shop management. I know this type of betting shop, it may not have more than 1 or 2 workers there. When the owner of the shop will employ, he will tell them everything they need to do and also let the workers see how it is done by attending to customer.

No CCTV? that could be worse thing that a "gambling" platform will not get. We have seen in casinos around the world with high security and CCTV is all over the place. Even a ordinary house now has a lot of CCTV, why not this betting shop? They have a lot of profits for sure as they are into the gambling industry so it doesn't make sense. So the first one to put blame is the owner of the betting shop itself and no one else.

The cashier, it's a failure on his end, it seems that he didn't follow the process of the betting shop. And we all know that if someone in all other business missed  important details, or forgetting key steps, sooner or later it will result in a loss of money and that's why happen here.

Of course, the stranger will be identified by the cashier who was in the shop. Players who visit gambling shops stay in the same neighborhood where the shop is located. And don't be surprised to see that same player on your next visit to the shop. The minute he left the shop he was in his right mind. On another occasion, he wouldn't know how gravity would take him to the shop to play again. It's just the power of addiction.

Firstly, the strange guy is addicted and has being gambling for profit, this is why you see that he win his first bet and lost it back to the casino. It didn't stop there, he continued gambling knowing that he cannot afford to pay which was why he ran away because he was believing he will win back his losses.

The cashier should be the one that is to be punished for such foolish act of not collecting payment for those bets until it accumulated to #36k. It is the cashier that is calling the gambler a stranger but he can identify him.

If I was the manager, I will not fire him but will be deducting the money from his salary till I get all of it back, because if you fire him you have lost it all. Lastly, I will mount a CCTV camera. I will never try such thing because I am a responsible gambler.

I agree with what you said: why would I pay for something I didn't do? This is right in my opinion as well. The only thing that is wrong is that there is no CCTV, so it can be abused again and again. There is always no concrete evidence to show.

In this day and age, CCTV is such a trend that no matter where you go, there is one for sure. With the technology we have today, it seems like nothing is impossible; that's all I've seen.

First of all, they have to face such a situation because of the carelessness of the cashier who was there. I have never experienced anything like this before. Security is must for every gambling company. Especially in that company it is a responsibility to have CCTV cameras and observe every gambler. Although different manpower should be kept for this duty but no action has been taken there. If the management of an organization is accepted with emotion, then there will be loss. The manager or cashier needed to be more careful. Gambler won 18000 no problem. But it has been proved that the company has not especial care on him. Casinos in the developed world are almost everywhere staffed with CCTV cameras to monitor gamblers. Every move of the gambler is watched by the officials of that company.

Many reason why a gambler takes that risks even if he know what is the risks for him. We never know what is his real reason until that man  caught. Maybe that man is greedy and addicted to gambling and still placing his bet even if he do that many times.

I will not yelling or angry to my employee if I see them make a mistake. I will talk with him privately without anyone knows so I can know his explanation. It is not good if we angry to our employee in front of other people.

Installing a CCTV camera in the shop is a good idea because that can record or watch all things happen in that shop. Having a CCTV camera helps the owner to know everything around his store. He can do something if he found something that is an usual in his store and solve the problem.

I encountered a lot of this kind characters on the gambling shop I'm betting there are many kind of gamblers and the management should be aware of the different modus these gamblers are employing, in the shop I'm betting they always have a weekly meeting to address this because it is rampant on the locality where I'm playing
Based on the story the staff is not aware of the bad tactics of the gambler so I prefer to just forgive him and have a meeting with all the staff and discuss the many tactics these gamblers are employing to cheat the cashiers
I'm sure the gambler have acquittances in the area that the management can ask to identify the culprit, installing a CCTV is mandatory for shops that many customers or clients that's going around, we have a law on this and we have penalties for non compliance.

Why do people steal, lie, cheat... Many get caught and many learn not to do it anymore, but there are also those who simply use every opportunity to deceive someone or steal something. Even though they were caught many times, beaten, and imprisoned, they still do it... I guess it's in their blood.


When I was young (20 or more years ago) I worked at a gas station, a man cheated me for about 30 euros. I filled him with fuel and plus I gave him back the change, and he didn't even pay. He convinced me that he had given me money... it was only after 5 minutes of thinking that I checked the cash register and realized that he had cheated me. My mistake, I should have told him to wait and check the register, but I was young and naive. Of course, I had to pay from my own pocket for that mistake. That's how experience is gained...


CCTV will stop some people, but not all. Even if you find them what can you actually do? I guess that depends a lot on the country and its laws, here in my country there are many of them. Small or almost no punishments with jail time do not stop them from repeating these acts, even if they get caught for the hundredth time and they go to jail for a while it is nothing. People accustomed to such a life return to the same acts as soon as they are released.

I also think that the lack of CCTV cameras encourages such players to be impudent and avoid punishment. What can be presented to this player, whom you might meet on the street? There are no witnesses, and no evidence, which means he understands that he is invulnerable. In addition, people addicted to gambling often do not think about the consequences; they are driven by excitement and the desire to play. What would I do with that cashier? I would certainly fire him, but first, so that all other cashiers could know the consequences of such "kindness,"  I would deduct from their salaries the amount that the player owes. And yes, cameras must certainly exist in all establishments related to finance.

I've not heard of a situation where one can gamble without paying first or depositing something. It's strange to me. In my country you have to pay for what ever local bet you want to place be it virtual or sport bet. Though as regards your country I think such things should be improved. I still don't get the relationship with the attendance why he allowed someone to play that way without asking for money. I really don't think it's his first time. There might be other reasons but it was really a careless move by him. There's no manger that would be so calm not to get angry in such case senerio.

these approaches are risky and moreover are illegal and must be avoided in all possible cases.
maybe "desperate" gambler will try such activity but it's a real stupid idea that deserve no follow up.

workers that doens't act according company policy should just be fired. if they are unable to follow easy instruction by the company they just need to leave their job (there is also the risk they are "part of the scam"...)

in this case police are an option that can be used to identify guy without CCTV (maybe it can works...)

I have actually experienced such cases before where bettors places bets in the physical gambling shops while payments have not been made but this usually done when the shop attendant is familiar with the gambler probably the familiar gambler is a regular gambler to that particular gambling shop.

Such exhibitions are exercises of addicted and irresponsible gamblers who does not even care about their reputations.

The sanctions should be on the cashier for the mistake been done.
Even when you catch up with this guy, be aware that you do not have an evidence to proof him so, he may have all right to deny it because it was expected that payment before bet is placed should be made.

He might be having the money to pay but seeing he has a route for an escape he definitely pick that but I see all this as a cause of mispractice in gambling and possibly addiction winning 18k at first try and continuous playing till he lost everything shows how desperate he was hoping to catch a jackpot which turns against him but since he noticed a big lost coming his way, I guessed he opt for the running option even if he did have the money or not.

It depends how well the employee as been having faults and how business is going because I might just only be angry or ask him to pay a part or all of the money since I won't to tolerate any slackness or see my business crumble.

Maybe if the cashier or any other person there at that time might be able to recognised his face then he possibly might be able to run for ever

That's right , no Matter whom the individual claims to be he or she should make payment first before being allowed to gamble in a particular shop, because I believe has this first mission of that individual was successful he , will definitely try such act again may be this time he will try it at a different betting shop . This is the reason why one shouldn't go beyond budgets, as a gambler you know you don't have much money and the little you have left is to sustain you till another , the right thing to do is to not bet or gamble at all that going at there putting yah self at risk due to being addicted to it , for instance that nigga git caught the chances of him getting to jail is pretty high because that's a serious case .

If I were in the manager’s shoes, I’d definitely be upset with the employee, but beyond just anger, this would be a wake-up call for some serious changes. First off, proper training should be in place to ensure that all bets are paid upfront, no exceptions. The cashier’s trust in the gambler’s eventual payment was a costly mistake, but it’s the manager’s responsibility to set clear guidelines that prevent these kinds of errors.

It's tough to Identify the gambler without CCTV. The shop could try to gather information from nearby businesses or regular customers who might have seen the guy. But installing security cameras is a must to avoid this kind of situation, it’s about creating an environment where both the employees and customers know that there are systems in place to keep everyone accountable.

Some people are just criminal-minded. They usually want to maximize any slight chance to cheat or steal from people. Others might engage in such an act due to gambling addiction. They chase losses and end up gambling more than they can afford.

I guess your local currency is the naira, thus #32k is less than $22. I might cover the loss if it was her first blunder. Deducting the amount gradually from her earnings will be another option if she has been careless.  

The only person that can identify this criminal is the cashier or any other witness. If nobody present can, there is no way to identify him. However, such criminals usually target other gambling shops rather than returning to their previous victims.

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The owner of the betting shop should consider training his staff and also installing CCTV cameras.

The fact is that the gambler is criminal minded, if not he would have paid before leaving. Also not paying doesn't mean that he doesn't have the money to pay, he probably felt that there was no need to pay since he didn't win so he sneaked out at the slightest opportunity. I doubt that criminals worry much whether they're caught, they'll probably believe that it's unsmart thieves that gets caught. If I were the manager I'll naturally be angry at the cashier who was negligent while the criminal gambler escaped without paying.

Bet shops and any other businesses that serves the public should have CCTV cameras to monitor their business areas. The CCTV cameras should be visible so that their customers and visitors will know that they're being watched.

It is likely that he has done this kind of thing often, from the beginning there was indeed an intention to do it, especially if there is a gap that can be used to escape and not pay the bill, the characteristics of a gambler who is addicted like that, he will not be ashamed of what he does, justifying any means to satisfy his lust in gambling activities.

clearly as an employee who has great responsibility, anger will definitely come out of his mouth, but on the one hand we cannot completely scold employees, business owners also play a role because they do not install CCTV in their place of business, this kind of thing needs to be fixed for the future

it is likely that the fraudster will disappear first if in fact the person lives in the same area, another option is that the fraudster will look for another place to carry out his actions.

Cashier allow the player to play without money. They literally gave him credits to play and pay later that resulted to the issue. Gambler is always thinking about screwing the casino once they lose. Also this bet shop doesn’t have CCTV so there’s no downside for the gambler here.


Immediate termination I guess since this kind of mistake shouldn’t be tolerated on gambling business.


I think so if the cashier remember the name. Police can sketch the face of the guy.

Now, they understood the importance of having CCTV in their premises. It will be a lesson not only for the cashier, but the owner himself. Gamblers will always find a way not to pay or sneak, if he has the chance to, especially those who don't have the money for it. Maybe he already got the notion that sneaking out while the cashier is not looking is very possible in the scenario. And so he did! I don't think he will get back in the shop for the next coming days. If he will hear that the cashier didn't identify the culprit, he will surely go back. So the owner should install CCTV for their own benefit.
Aside from that, the cashier should not be too lenient to its customers. Collect the cash if needed, then, just disburse if the gambler asks for his winnings but don't let yourself get duped by these gamblers.

You may not be far from the truth because I see no responsible gambler having the guts to harbor such a degrading  act how much more of expediting it. Chronic gamblers can go at any length taking their chances just to satisfy their gambling urge, and this strange guy is no different.

You have made an salient point concerning evidence to use as ahold on the said strange guy, because assuming later on he got identified and he denied not been the person or even taking up such act, the gambling shop cashier has no evidence to pin him down except if he can provide witnesses to collaborate with the identification.

however, the cashier has to cover the loss. and pressure them to make the incident an experience and learning. being angry will be done, but we have to show more on how to be responsible for a case.
no one wants that to happen, but it could be that the gambler is a customer there and is used to interacting with the cashier. it will not be easy for a gambler in a new place to gain such trust, there must be some interactions with the cashier until he neglects the duties he should be doing.

I don't think there's a need to question why people would want to avoid paying? Yes, it's wrong, but no one would deny wanting not to pay anything if possible lol. As for the employee, definitely would be angry. It's never right to assume anything, like absolutely anything when it comes to customers lol. That's just an accident waiting to happen. Honestly confused why the assumption even happened in the first place lol.

As for measures, yeah CCTV. Or just in general a way for the cashier to hear when someone leaves/enters. As for a possible way to find the man, if they don't store the identities of their players then it's not gonna happen lol. If some verification was needed then it might be possible still but I highly doubt they do that.

When a gambler no longer has common sense, then anything risky can be done, even if it is the first time that bad thing has been done, so there is no need to be surprised by it and of course bad things, even though they are not the same, have happened before but you do not know about them.

Punishment for carelessness that harms the casino must be taken otherwise he can repeat the carelessness at a different time even if necessary his salary is cut even though not completely to replace the loss so that he can be more careful because he understands that mistakes will also harm him.

I'm not so sure about this, but casinos should have a way to prevent this from happening, besides CCTV security guards should also be more careful to watch for suspicious behavior from casino visitors.

The cashier is totally at fault for not requesting that the gambler pay him or her first before allowing him to stake on the selected games. If I were the manager, I would have to gradually deduct the loss from the cashier's salary every month until the loss is fully settled. The idea of installing CCTV in the shop is good, and if he can employ your idea, it will be a great advantage. 

I have seen a few addiction gamblers who get embarrassed publicly because of their debt in some land-based casino. This kind of cases is not new to me.

I believe that it seems that the gambler is trapped in despair, does not have the ability to accept the risk of losing, or cannot accept that all his winnings are lost again in the next game and at that time emotions peak until finally he makes various decisions without thinking long like continuing the game even though he does not have the money to pay for everything when the game session is over.

This is also the reason that when a gambler is controlled by his emotions then anything is very possible to do without considering the risks. And about the cashier, maybe I will also blame him for being too careless in putting trust, because if from the start he had first asked for money (at least the amount for collateral) from the gambler then maybe the casino's losses would not be too big, but on the other hand of course I will also blame the casino itself, because if only the casino had a standard level of security then the incident should never have happened.

The cashier should be fired and the gambler should be caught, we shouldn't let away stupid and irresponsible people because they can harm someone else business and they can harm the country too.

The big question is whether the gambler have paid what he owed to the casino or not, he should get charged, not only end up being in jail.

Anyway it's very surprising to see business that has a high chance of violence doesn't have CCTV.

I see this as a case of negligence on the side of the cashier because in casinos you should know as a staff that various personalities visit the casino and at such a strict pay before service policy should be implemented so as to make sure the casino never gets to suffer such loss, in situations as this there should be consequences attached so the cashier in subsequent situations will not be this negligent .

Probably for his or her carelessness half of the lost fund be deducted from the cashier's salary and for security measures, cameras should be installed so in case of next time they can track such person and let him face the wrath of the law.

Addiction is the main cause when you have scenarios like these. This is because people addicted to gambling, when they start playing, they can't stop playing, they have no control over themselves and if they have money in their pocket, even if it is an amount intended to pay the owner of gambling shop, the addicted person will use that money to continue playing and will not pay the owner of the gambling shop, then they will disappear. This is why it is recommended that gambling shop operators have security in their gambling shop


I will not yell at him, people make mistakes and we have to stay calm and ask them to be more careful next time, having an employee with many years is much better than constantly firing employees. We have to create a good work environment so that employees when they make a mistake do not despair and hide the mistake they made, when you have a good work environment, employees feel safe to report all problems.


If they report it to the police, then the police can ask for access to all cameras near the gambling shop and they can easily identify the player who did not pay

I think the employee is quite incompetent to allow such to happen, it's a business funded with money and allowing someone to walk away  after placing those bets without paying is absolutely careless..To answer the first question, an addictive gambler doesn't really care about getting embarrassed at that moment when he's gambling, all he cares about is chasing his losses and he doesn't mind borrowing money from other people to do that..if there were no cameras then only the cashier would be able to identify him if they cross paths again

CCTV cameras don't apprehend people when they're indebted to the casino, neither does it influence them to pay off their debts .... If they're left with nothing to service up their leftovers, there's absolutely nothing you can do....  
Initially, we had a rule of confiscating their bodily properties if they have any, but after some time, we had to adjust - since we realized we couldn't use stricter measures to solve the problem of wagering even without having initial deposits.

In this case, it was terrible as the cashier is answerable for whatever loss it caused the company in question.. "In our casino, no explanations were needed in a case like this... All you gotta do is fill up the gap and BALANCE your account.

I don't have experience playing live store gambling, don't know about the mechanism before knowing, is it depositing money first and then paying tickets or what? But what I think is probably depositing money first.

1. It's the cashier's fault for neglecting to pay attention to that person, when there is a gap this brazen gambler has bad intentions if he loses he will run away if he wins it is certain that he will collect the winning money.
2. Depending on if the employee makes a mistake several times, I will fire him, if it's a one-time mistake, there is still tolerance, but I will remind him to be careful again.
3. Because there is no CCTV, it is difficult to identify the strange person, after this incident, the betting shop must be able to increase the security of the guard even tighter.

Yeah, it's a combo of bad factors coming into play, but it's essential for the head of the shop to learn from the mistakes made by his colleagues so that a situation like that wouldn't happen again.

I do comprehend where you're coming from about the CCTV cameras but what exactly that makes CCTV cameras important against situations of this nature is should in case the person is caught but denying he's not the one, with the video footage from the CCTV capturing him, you have an evidence to present without further arguments.
And peradventure he doesn't have the money to pay immediately after confirming he is the person there could be a confiscation of any property belonging to him till he pays or his family assist in the payment.

Because the gambler is ready to risk it all. That's both a criminal behavior and a symptom of irresponsible gambling also gambling addiction. The shop owner must have a security at the gate to deter this behavior from others.

The amount will.bw deducted from their salary. Next time they'll be smart.

It's not worth it. The employees should suffer the consequences of their actions.

Quite surreal story to be honest. Obviously, the guy who defrauded the gambling/bet shop realized about the security flaw of of establishment long ago, realized there were no clear cameras in sight and also noticed the lack of security personnel near the entrance of the establishment, so nobody would have stopped him on time if someone noticed he was trying to run away from the shop.
Definitely, the cashier is at fault for not asking money before allowing that man to continue to gamble in their shop. Probably, the cashier has done the same with other people who were honest enough so they paid their losses once the finished playing, so he got over confident and opened the his window to the chance of him getting scammed and probably having his job at risk because of his recklessness.
When comes to gambling, one truly needs to have the money on hands before even starting the game, one never knows who is the honored person or the one searching to rip people off.

Before blaming the cashier which obviously he is the reason why the gambler left the office without paying. The owner of the gambling office poorly managed his business. First, there are no security in the office which means anyone could just walk in there and gamble or rob the office. Secondly, since no human security there was no CCTV. And this is one of the important security system a casino office needs to have to ensure safety of their funds.

Right now, there is no way they can be able to trace the culprit unless the cashier can recognize him outside since he won't dare come back to that same office. These days to start a business is risky and that is why ensuring security in anything we found ourselves doing is important.

How strange that the man was addicted to gambling and he gambled for profit. He has won and lost a few bets but not everyone stops there. Because the loser will bet again to get his money back and the winner will bet again to win money. The two types are different but they are all addictive gamblers. Anyway coming to your point, if i were the manager i wouldn't fire him. Because if he runs away after going to work then everything will be lost. Stupid acts like not collecting money for that bet will be punished.

Yep, I wouldn't do that too.

Nothing bad had happened to be honest. It's a free lesson for the cashier, since the guy won and then used that money to continue betting and finally lost it all, so the only money the business has lost is the fee that they should've taken from him. That's how I see it, lesson learned, nobody was hurt, the money lost is nothing they can't make up for without breaking a sweat.
Obviously they will now look at these gamblers more closely. They could for instance install a magnetic lock on the door so that a loser can't simply run away but gets locked in until he pays up.

It would be great if the lesson would be learned here, as we all should improve on our mistakes rather than repeating them ;D I hope some measures which you described will be implemented eventually.

-If the said bettor do knows that there's no CCTV's installed then there's no way that he could be able to traced out then its really that hard to have that kind of fighting things without
clear evidence on which you dont even know on how that person looks like. Verbal things cant really just that easily accepted.

-As a manager then you cant really be avoid on having that kind of shouting or would be scolding the people under you because this is really that showing that negligence or simply being
that too careless because if he/she had been thinking about security or safety  then he should really be asking the lacked amount and never ever intend to have those assumptions
that then next bet would really be a win.

=Its really that on this aspect, this is why that certain person did decided to ran away because it was really that intentionally that he/she be doing on the time that he had lost that bet.
Well, this would really be a lesson learned for that physical betting place and pretty sure this one wouldnt really be happening again. I highly doubt that certain bettor
would be coming back into this place as if there's nothing happened.  :P

I've never heard of a betting shop allowing people to essentially gamble on the house, but maybe it's common practice. The guy was probably a regular and im sure with his next pay check will be back, settle the debts, and probably lose more. It's really very sad when someone has an addiction.

This is actually terrible because if he understood the logics of gambling the first winning could had me him go exit from gambling further.

Then again, for about getting him notified. I will say if he is regular customer then they should be able to know him when he comes except that very day was his first time and it would be hard to track him or even trace him, except there is someone that knows him there he may direct cashier to his home to get him arrested for not paying up his bills.

This just doesn't happen in any half competent shop and there is pretty much zero chance of it happening in a virtual gaming environment that requires an account to be funded up-front, so the story doesn't make any sense. If it did happen then this business would not last very long at all and "the stupidity of the cashier" is irrelevant, it's a gaping security hole that is bound to get abused repeatedly until they are financially crippled - is the cashier expected to track every customer at all times? Are they supposed to manhandle customers that don't pay but somehow got to play with credit? It doesn't make sense. Regardless of all that, your story states that this person lost their initial deposit of 32k which means the house was up after all this anyway.

Your kind think they know it all, like they feel they are basking is so much knowledge that they gat to know everything to what makes sense and what doesn't make sense. It is centric that you be objective than using how conditions are interplayed within your immediate environment to generalize how it should be in other places of the world. Probably the story didn't make sense because you didn't allow the sense to sink in you. Gambling shops makes are initial deposit of a 100 to over 200k in our local currency over here for each cashier's account and this also depends on the size and customers patronage they have. But I choose not to go further as am not in the business to convincing anyone against what they've already made up their mind to believe.

Basic reason might be because gambler does not have enough money to pay all the bills for the bets in the game he chooses, but this is funny incident because cashier can be fooled by gambler.

Maybe I will reprimand him and give some advice to be more careful and really supervise every visitor who comes, besides that maybe can add some surveillance cameras in every corner and add employees who are on duty to really monitors.

It will be difficult because no one knows the person except the employee who is the cashier in the betting shop, moreover if it is stranger who has never been there before then it is impossible to find him or identify him.

It's a situation for learning, basically ;D Nobody got hurt, but it's a splinter nevertheless, that should be dealt with eventually.

Definitely with a Good working CCTV cameras the person should be caught but most of this local bet shop just install non functional cameras to make the place look Good and again such places should always follow up instructions so that the gamblers coming in can stick to it but mostly it's same management staff that defaults and the customers do same too.

So who's  to be blame for this.

The person who gambles without paying and run away is a swindler.  I bet it is not the first time he did it.  I do not think that he is a gamble but rather taking advantage of the naiveness of the gambling shop attendant.


I woull not burst out of anger, I will deal with it professionally by knowing what the reason that thing happens and point out the problem and how to solve it.  I will give a memo or a warning to the employee without shaming him in the public.


If there are witnesses and can remember the physical appearance of the person then yes, it would be great if someone on the bystander or people around that time knows the identity of the person.  But if there is no one noticed that person then I do not think there is a possibility to identify the suspect.

A store manager must install CCTV in the shop to prevent the same thing happens again. But how that cashier can let that man keep gambling without asking the money. That is strange for me because that cashier works in the sports betting shops so he must make sure that every customer pay with their money before they place their bet. If I am a manager in that store, I will ask him why he did that and if he can't explain what the situation, maybe I will cut his salary to pay the lose in my store.

Angry will not solve the problem so I will not do that instead will find out the truth and if necessary I will find that man who doesn't pay his money. Only the cashier that can identify that man so I will ask him to find with me. Maybe that strange man will return to my shop so I can caught him and ask his explanation and maybe I will asks for help from the police.

It is natural to be angry, because what the employee did was quite stupid, but maybe what I did was not to scold him to the point of cursing him, maybe I would reprimand him, give him a warning, and cut his salary until the loss could be resolved. Because in any case the mistake was purely due to his carelessness and he should have been responsible for the mistake, if he was not satisfied then he could resign.

But perhaps in the future, that gambling shops should add CCTV for monitoring and employees should be given education so that they do not believe too much in anything that gamblers say.

Some gamblers, especially those who are addicted, will do anything to fool anyone; their addiction blinds them from doing what is right.
I will assess the performance of the employer; if this is the first time, I will just suspend him for a couple of weeks to teach her a lesson, If she is a repeater of the same offense, then it is time to fire her because the casino cannot keep having a negligent and irresponsible employer like her.

Yes of course I'm sure he will go back to try to repeat his cheating, the management can ban him or charge him this is estafa for running without paying

if they were a good employee before the incident, give them a warning but if they are already issues that happened before that involves the employee then fire them.

unless someone can recognize the guy, then no. This is why it is extremely important for betting shops to have CCTV. here in my country all the gambling shops that I have been usually have a security guard(with a gun) and CCTV all around the shop.

The employee would definitely be fired, because it was stupidity that cost the store a lot of money. Why did the player take such a risk? Because addiction is a terrible force that pushes you to take rash steps.

The possibility of embarrassment or arrest doesn't stop criminals from taking risks, the goal of which is always (easy) money.

The manager of that gambling shop is primarily to blame, because he didn't instruct / train his employees properly. All responsibility for the incident falls on the manager of this gambling shop as the most senior in rank. Any mistake in his gambling shop is his mistake as a manager.

But in life, everything turns out the other way around: the manager will yell at his employees, make them guilty and issue a fine.

You can only recognize someone by their actions. Until the action is done, how will you know their intentions?

The owner of the gambling shop should think about surveillance cameras, which are now easily accessible.

Yes, but unfortunately the person did not have the understanding that you mean, so instead of cashing out and enjoying it, what happened was that he continued and eventually lost all the total amount that he had previously won. And this is someone who is included in the people who are too greedy and do not realize the risks that lurk.

On the other hand, I am also quite curious about whether it was a new person who came to the store or a gambler who had subscribed or had often bet there, but at first glance I think he might be a new person who came there, because if he was a regular customer then he should not have run away, at least he said something to the cashier like he owed money and came back again someday to pay it because most likely the cashier must have recognized him. Regardless of whatever it is, I think in the end this is a valuable lesson for the cashier to be more vigilant and careful, and of course this is also a lesson for the store itself to improve security.

As a gambler once you get to this phase just know that you are getting out of control. Once you can't control your impulses to borrow money to gamble or walk into a bet shop to gamble on credit it's classified as a mental disorder, this needs serious attention otherwise it might escalate into a more serious issue. I think the staff should be fired for displaying an incompetent act because more occurrences might repeat itself like this if proper measures are not taken. I don't think the strange guy can be identified if there were no cctv cameras in the environment when this happened

I understand that your story raise issues in the operation and safety of casinos but the player's decision to use the system may have resulted from a mixture of personal cynicism and a belief in the possibility of sabotage. The immediate commercial interest and potential bad faith of taking the route can overshadow the long-term consequences, including possible legal problems therefore. If you were a leader, it was important that the issue is dealt with in a peaceful manner rather than anger. Some of the measures that should be taken are strengthening the pay structures, giving workers extra training, and investing in security measures like CCTV cameras so that such incidences do not occur in the future also. Searching for casinos with no CCTV might be tricky, but it can make you go to witness descriptions and also transaction records, all the information of customers that is collected by the store. It enhances internal controls and security, decreasing the risk and thus safeguarding the business from such incidences in the future.

everyone is wired differently and have different tendencies and possibilities. what he did was bad and shows that he is a thief apart from being a gambler. thieves generally display their stealing nature at any slight opportunity they have and that's just the simple thing the dude did. if he was eventually caught or arrested for attempting that sort of thing, he will do same thing thieves do, he will shamelessly deny or or beg for forgiveness.
the cashier was obviously careless which is what's not expected of a cashier. it depends on how useful she's been at other occasion that will determine if I will still keep her or not and it also depends on the amount that's involved. if the money isn't much and its just a normal absent mindedness that happen at that instance, I can forgive her and let it fly but if its been her nature and the money is huge, its either she ceases to work for me or she will have to pay a certain percentage of the money from her salary.
before you even get comfortable with your gambling customer to have allowed such thing to happen, its possible the person has been coming to the place and you already know him. even if you're not familiar with the face, people around that location that were at the shop[ at the time the incidence occurred might of great help.

What happened here is simple: this person, new or not, got greedy. Thinking their fortune would endure always, they fell for the oldest scam in the book. That is basic, plain terrible decision-making not just greed. Though its a dangerous delusion, easy money can give anyone superhuman abilities.

Regarding new vs regular gamblers, casinos have to raise their game now. Their responsibility is to acknowledge whether someone is in distress, new or not. This is about shielding people, not only about security.

They should notice these trends using their fancy technology since they own it. Using data to create money and keep people safe is what I define as smart business. The cashier may have been the one to deliver a reality check and halt this. In this sector, we need leaders of the kind that you describe.

That cashier allowing the gambler to gamble without upfront payment is the wrong thing that has happened. I believe that addicted gamblers would do whatever they can do to satisfy themselves, and it's going to be a problem if it continues.

If you were to gamble everything away, there would be no assurance of that. It shouldn't be overlooked.

Anyone who works in a casino, bet shop or any gambling center at all is expected to be extra vigilant because lots of people, especially compulsive gamblers, addicts and even criminals patronize these places regularly. Many would do anything just to gamble and these might affect the gambling center negatively. Staffs of any gambling centers should be given thorough orientation on how to relate with their customers. If any staff member causes the casino or betting shop some unnecessary losses or negative reviews due to their carelessness, they should face the penalty of their actions so others, including the defaulting staff members would learn to be more vigilant and not attach any form of emotions and assumptions to their jobs.

Yes, of course the problem is that the person is too greedy and does not realize that luck will not always be on his side until finally regret comes and runs away because he does not have that much money to pay for everything he has done there. Previously I was sure that the intention of his arrival was probably to gamble moderately, meaning gambling with the money in his pocket, but over time he got carried away because he was too sure that a much bigger win would happen until finally when everything was lost, that's where various bad decisions happened that made him unable to pay all the bills.

Good point with the idea of ​​being more considerate of the customers who come and also trying to get the customers out of trouble, but I think in a festive atmosphere it is very unlikely for some staff to always pay attention to a player, and sometimes there are gamblers who are dominated by emotions but do not show any reaction, and I think the issue of whether someone is having trouble controlling themselves or not I think it is not the casino's business my friend, I think it is purely the responsibility and business of each individual, the casino only provides the game and makes sure that the situation remains safe without interfering too much with the game being played by the customer.

If someone is up for scam, they know the various ways they can use to deceive others, it start with the way they talk, how they appear or dress and the way they make it looks more real than been fake, they are known for such kind of act and seek on the slightest mistake of the cashier to get carried away and that's all.


If the3 employee cant provide for the money then he or she will get sacked because that is an act of indiscipline and it could have been prevented if the cashier is not that foolish.


Such is gone for live as there is no evidence.

Some risky business here! That guy was extremely lucky and then lost it all what a shame. The cashier should definitely not let them play 32k worth of games without some sort of KYC in place that’s nuts. The fact that they don’t have any info on this guy or cameras is the shops fault and sometimes it takes a loss like this to learn the lesson. They’ll probably get those cameras you suggested now for sure.

You did well with your suggestion to the manager but I don’t think the cashier was stupid neither will I have to blame the cashier because anyone who knows how physical bet shops are in the part of the world will understand that is not the cashiers fault and a cctv camera will be one of the best options as you mentioned and away from that, I think the bet shop should implement a pay before you play service as this will help fight against the issue of people fighting and avoid similar cases.

I’m not shocked because most times when I see other countries talk sweet about their casinos o see the betting shops in my places differently but my country is already building better and actual casinos now in Lagos if I’m not wrong

If I were the gambling den manager, the employee's stupidity would definitely need to be addressed seriously. This entails more than a mere warning. There should be better training and supervision offered to ensure that such does not happen again. Employees should be trained to always confirm payment before running a gambling session. This is especially important in large-sum cases. More so, because it was never even mentioned in the ad that this dealer supposedly knew anything about running the game, to begin with


Without CCTV cameras, the weird fellow would be hard to recognize. However, more of preventive action can take place in the future like installing of cameras and making the transaction process tighter. Moreover cooperating with the authorities and reporting on the incident could help in finding the perpetrator. Security and thoroughness in daily operations to avoid similar repeat incidents.

From what I learnt here, the agent or cashier is to be blamed because before a bet is placed he should have been sure that it has been paid for even though the gambler won a bet initially and was placing bets from his previous winning but since the betting agent is aware that he has exhausted his winning amount in placing new bets, he shouldn't have allowed him played further without making payments so the cashier should bear the brunt of the losses so that next time he will be more wiser not to allow such situation again but however, i wonder why some gamblers just possess this dubious characters in them, now if the cashier sees him outside wouldn't it be an embarrassment to him? Such a shame!

you are right because from my own country where we participate in gambling we don't need to gamble on credit we make a payment before gambling it is about management of gambling that will make some people to turn up in gambling due to our the centre address them, so therefore gambling is a business that you will not go by force you have to understand it properly, so gambling is something of luck and wisdom, we don't need to go gambling centres without physical cash, so I believe that we have to know such

Even if it sounds redundant, when a gambler wins a prize, the casino must pay him the prize, and then if he desires to continue gambling, he must give the prize back to the casino, and once when it happens his machine or accounts should be credited. Also, documents and receipts must be signed along the process, as it's useful as guarantee for the customer and the bettin shop.

When people take shortcuts neglecting formalities, situations like the one presented on this thread happens. Scammers are everywhere, ready to take advantage of any opportunities available to them. These people keep scheming scams on their minds all the time, and once they spot a naive or careless individual, they put their plans into practice. It happens all the time, doesn't matter what field of work you are inserted.

And from what I observe, this kind of problem is getting more common nowadays. People can't trust each other anymore like they used to do in previous decades. It's just too risky and too frustrating in the end.

The owner should remember that they are dealing with gamblers here so to be on the secure side, they should collect the money before letting them sit down on their shop. If not, they are only subjecting themselves to bankruptcy and more trouble.

This is why it is best to employ human security as well as CCTV in place in your casino's premises to eliminate if not totally eradicate possible cheaters inside your shop. This is business, so you need to make sure you are not losing revenue because of carelessness.

This is the kind of case that can happen when people that are in charge of gambling shops are not very organised, It is expected that things needs to be coordinated well because when things are done anyhow some gamblers would want to take advantage. I think a cctv camera will be important in gambling shops to capture every activities that will be going on. I'm not surprised with an event such like this because the gambling shops sometimes funny things do happen and it is important for the management of gambling shops be extra vigilant of their customers because you never can tell what people who come around have in mind.

This is a regular practice in my neighborhood as well and it always end in fights and arguments. It usually happen because games placed on virtual cannot be cancelled because the time is usually short. I think companies operating virtual games can solve this problem by adjusting their rules to require that the gambler pay in advance before starting the gambling session. For instance, when a gambler work into the shot to gamble on the virtual, he can deposit the amount he want to gamble with and start gambling to be stopped when his deposit is exhausted. The only challenge will be that there are many customers being attended to by just few agents which may be the reason this incident happened else the agent would have noticed when the gambler was leaving and raise alarm.

The only thing the manager of the place can do is to deduct the money from the salary of the agent who made that mistake. The money is too small to involve the police or law court.

It’s not unfamiliar to me. In the days when I frequent the gambling shops, looking to make my predictions and stake some bets, I’ve had time to watch some of this sports bet gamblers giving me reasons to see them for an addict from the various behaviors they exhibited at the games.

This was one of the characters I found unusual that the cashiers do allow some gamblers to leverage on. It’s always unsettling for me but these guys don’t give it much concern. With the much crowd that is often observed on the virtual sports gambling, it’s easier to have a gambler run off with the money. So why risk it!

Some of these cashiers truly deserve to learn the hard way.

It's a gross consequence of a lack of coordination in the management of the gambling shop because what I was thinking recently was that why don't they have a policy of pay-as-you-go on each session of the virtual games, it is your rules and it's most definite that gamblers would abide by it because they need to gamble.
I don't think it's in the place of the companies that provides these virtual games to makes those type of rules neither is the time allotted to the virtual games been the issue, it's left for each of the gambling shops serving as agents to have their respective operation policy on their customers that will address peculiar challenges they facing.

I just want to believe that most persons do a lot of thing because of several reasons. Who am I to judge right? Without any of these excuses what the gambler did was without human sympathy and consistency. Such persons shouldn't be treated nicely if they are caught in that kind of act. Come to think of it, some people are willing to take such a heavy risk and if you make your findings properly these persons are parents, brothers, and husbands to a unique family. At the end of the day, they go back to their family looking innocent like they never committed any crime on that day.

There is no reason to justify what that gambler did. If he keeps repeating all these things in other casino shops around him I am certain that one day he will get caught and his gonna pay for all the debt in all the casino shops he has messed around with. He might get unlucky because most casino office are owned by one persons in an environment.

No money, no bet. You have to always get paid before accepting a bet. That stops the problem before it happens.

Would much rather piss someone off for asking to be paid vs being pissed off they skipped out on me. I guess it's different here is the USA as they 100% of the time want the money or they will not take your bet period.

Various gamblers face such problems in physical gambling. I have seen that when a few gamblers sit together and gamble and if one of the two gamblers loses the gamble then the losing gambler refuses to pay his winnings to the person who won the gamble. In this case it can be seen that there is a lot of conflict between the two parties and that issue creates many problems later. There are also some physical gambling establishments that attract gamblers to their casinos to gamble but when the gamblers win and claim huge amounts of money, those gambling establishments refuse to pay. For all these problems, many gamblers now use online casinos to gamble because there is no possibility of conflict between the two parties and if they win, the gambler will automatically get his money and if he loses, his money will automatically go out of the account.

Stupidity and selfishness are the reasons. Some people are just for no good, they are living their lives to outsmart people and will not even think it twice before doing it again. What a shame!

It's simple, the guy who attended to the gambler will be held accountable, after all, he erred in his responsibility, so he must pay for it. The way most managers do it is to deduct it from their salaries. Although they might come up with a plan that will not affect the guy severely, the deduction may be proportionate.

No way in particular unless those who saw him could identify him by luck if they see him in the future. The guy who could do that will definitely not reside in that neighbourhood, which makes it more difficult.

Unfortunately, that is true. It's an experience still, but all of us would prefer to not have it, better yet, to stay safe.

And this is a good plus from the casino as an intermediary. Yes, we pay the casino commissions - direct or indirect, like 0 on roulette. But the casino ensures the honesty of the results and the provision of winnings to players, and this is correct.
This is comparable to cryptocurrency exchanges that honestly conduct P2P, and thanks to this we know that we will not be deceived. Nevertheless, there are always those who want to cheat, but the control of the intermediary works well here too, establishing order in the relations between gamblers/traders.

Yeah, it's one side of the coin, the other that we believe and rely on this intermediary when it can do whatever it wants, basically (the expense would be its credibility and more ;D). Still, you are right.

Maybe that shop have different rule than the other shop so we see the case is because they don't have a right rule or policy for their gamblers. Having a policy of pay-as-you-go on each session will be a good rule so every gambler must obey the rule if they want to playing gambling on that shop. If they don't have money, they can not playing gambling in that shop and they must search for the money and return to that shop. It will teach people not to comes to the shop if they don't have money.

Although every policy will depends on each shop, they should recheck their rule and modify it so that the bad thing will not happen again. So the manage must check his shop and make sure that he fix the problem by installing CCTV to watch all gamblers who visit and playing gambling on his shop.

Another day another problem with physical casinos, I can only attend one for sight seeing maybe in Las Vegas, but in reality I don't do local casinos, I am not very good with people and I get angry easily, I don't take nonsense, so I always mind myself in whatever I do, staying indoor and gambling online was made for me, because I will never gamble in a local casino nearby.

Apart from who I am it is not even safe to begin with, there are many sad stories about people getting hurt or rob in casinos, you can get into a fight easily, why not safe yourself from the trouble and gamble online with peace.

From my point of view the gambler was aggressive, chasing after his losses with the bet office bankroll, hoping for a great win. He thought he will be smart enough to have recovered his loses from the bankroll of the cashier and pay them after he may have won, forgetting that gambling is a game of luck and we should not be triggered by our emotions. I guess it was not intentional but at that point that was the only way he could excape the humiliation.

I would have said that given him a second chance will be good, but I think removing such amount from his salary will teach him a good lesson to be careful and smarter Next time.

There is no way they can identify such person except for only the person that allowed him to play the bet, and of course everyone was minding their business. Then for the cctv camera I dont think it's necessary because I haven't seen that in any bet shop. The guy would have avoided it if he had requested money before gambling.

more people do like and are more comfortable playing at online casinos. it provides privacy and also peace of mind from other people's disturbances that might be obtained when we play at physical casinos.
I also think so, but getting a gambling experience by playing at a physical casino might be challenging and provide a new experience for some gamblers. I don't know which is better or safer. even online casinos also have some of their risks.

good physical casino management can create an appeal for gamblers. friendly service and other experiences that are felt directly will be a consideration for gamblers who prefer and choose physical casinos over online casinos.
but regarding the difficult situation that might affect physical casino officers, that's part of the risk. and everything must be managed professionally. if there is a mistake then they must pay the consequences.

There are many who may be lashing out at their employees due to such incidents. But if I was in that position I would never misbehave with them because as a manager i have the responsibility to look after all the things. I have to accept the weaknesses in my companies particularly security issues. Normally a casino company require maximum security. There should have various cameras form all the angle inside and outside the casino. I cannot cover up my weakness by blaming only one staff for this. Maybe with my power I can give him pressure. There is also a possibility of dismissal with fine. But that employee is not the only one to blame for that incident.

It may the cashier fault or anyone else but its better to install CCTV in every corner to have  record of everything that might happen and also to prevent rouge people from doing such .

if you cannot control your self or emotion?> then you must never gamble at anyway , because that will make you lose everything .

It might be harsh, but the cashier faces the consequences of her mistakes. It is a lot of money, and if I were the owner, I would not just take it easy like nothing happened. She might not pay the money, but at least she feels how the owner feels about losing it. 

I think the cashier should focus on their job, as she can ask for money first before betting. This problem never exists if they are doing the right thing. It is very unfortunate sometimes that we experience things like this before we learn, and in fact, we can anticipate the situation. 
Anyway, if that gambler is responsible and knows his responsibility, he never makes the shop suffer, especially the cashier. Unfortunately, he is too dumb not to see the result of not paying his bet. 

This incident, in fact, seems to suggest that the casino is not without its shortcomings when it comes to employment opportunities and even training. If employees are continuing to gamble without being paid, then they clearly lack even the most basic procedures. This is not an isolated case, but it also raises questions about the management of the pub in terms of how they manage and train their staff.

If I were the manager and this indiscretion had somehow escaped Mee’s notice, then at least at the time, even if only for a fleeting moment as I reverted to being a father figure, I would have been angry enough to do more than just get angry. The report, including the installation of CCTV and offering retraining for staff · It would only take stricter surveillance of homeless people to stop repeat attacks. One action they could take is to establish a more effective transaction monitoring process, which would help to reduce the risk of this kind of thing.

It is a reminder of the importance of more careful selection when hiring employees, as mistakes like this can not only be financially costly but also damage the reputation of the casino.

Yes, that's how it will end up. She made a mistake so there's no one to be blamed for what happened. I think the only problem with his superior is he will also face some consequences since he is the man who should be looking at what is happening but he ain't there. So, I bet he will also have a share of what is going to be dealt with.

This is a good experience for the cashier though. This time she won't be trusting anyone when money is involved. If they win, give out the money. If they will bet again then, they will have to pay first.
Don't rely on the winnings of one gambler who keeps on betting and makes it like a deposit. That's not how it works. They were only there to help them make the bets but they cannot do this kind of decision.

Betting shops are places where large amounts of money circulate, each game can only be played if there is money deposited, meaning that when we look at it from this point of view, I think that from the start the betting shop should have prepared a good level of security or meet standards in order to minimize various unwanted possibilities, at least installing CCTV as you said OP to find out a little about the person's identity and what's even better is also providing other security such as hiring someone to be a security guard at the front door to serve and also ensure that everyone does not do suspicious things that could harm the shop.

We must understand that there are always people who have bad intentions in their hearts, so I think it's clear that I will also blame the cashier for being too careless in putting their trust in people he doesn't know, in the end I think this is a meaningful lesson for casinos and cashiers to be more careful and vigilant.

It is for the avoidance of such catastrophic incidents that some managers act very strict in their relationship with their employees to instill discipline and seriousness and caution in them while on their duty. And I wouldn't blame an manager lashing out on his employee under this situation because if am to be sincere the cashier didn't act professionally.

Yes we know it's the sole responsibility of a manager to take charge of his station but he can't definitely be everywhere at a time that's why employees are there, so we can't say we have to blame manager for certain employees stupidity. However, it's just a wake up call for them to integrate a better security system within the betshop to arrest the situation from reiterating and also mething disciplinary measure on the cashier than clinging on much blame games.

It's actually unbearable to see that someone would go into gambling shop to gamble and played continuously without even paying was thinking he would win to cover up his lost. But truth be told the cashier didn't even play wise in her role because it's assume there is no law rules and regulations governing them there because I assumed if there were any then she could had demand for the pay before even placing another bet for him.

She can pay the money but the owner should not be too harsh on her by allowing her to pay the money in small quantities. She is not earning so much that she can pay at one time. She was careless and she needs to learn a lesson so she can be more careful in the future. The replacement of the money should be taken from her monthly salary until all the debts has been cleared. She need to take her job seriously or she should quit so others that will take the job very seriously will be hired. If she is not being taught a lesson, she might repeat same thing and the shop will keep losing money. Before any gambler is allowed to gamble, they should have paid and not allow them to gamble on credits because at times, people do not know what they are doing when addiction is controlling them.

I believe that paying before gambling is common sense and they don't need to write such rules on the wall but will be told to the cashier. She was the one that took her responsibility for granted by allowing a stranger to continue gambling without giving her a dime. The one I have seen was a known gambler that gambles in a particular bet shop, he gambled to pay his bills later amd the owner of the bet shop got him arrested when he refused paying his debt.

Those gamblers that portrays such a behavior are already aware that if it's on an online casino, they can not have such opportunity to gamble with zero balance and because of such, they will go to a land base casino to express their bad behavior without minding the implications it's going to have on the staffs. The case and explained by OP is going to have a bad effect on the staff because it's her fault to even allow the culprit wager without paying.

I want to be soft in my approach towards this incident because I know how easy it is for people to get comfortable with one another in places like gambling shops. Most people come to place their bets and have fun, making it easy for people to feel at home with themselves. But my believe is, that should be commonly practiced amongst gamblers and not between gamblers and staff especially cashiers.

You ought to be as professional as possible not to be too comfortable with clients who come to gamble. Taking gamblers as paddies should be ordinarily against one's work ethics as a cashier and if I was the manager I would retaliate to that mistake, not to take away the job from him but to caution him against next time since we ain't running a charity organization.

Even the cashier in the gambling shop is also at risk, because the gambler that is betting on the games on credit has no guarantee that he is going to win so that he can be able to cover up his gambling depts. But I think that anyone that wants to succeed in casino business should be stricted with it, because many gamblers have the kind of mind that will tell them to gamble on credit and when they lose without winning any round they might not pay. But when if the gambler pay before making his depts, even if he wins or lose it's not if the cashiers business, he or she just gave to pay when the gambler wins.

Yes, when it comes to work then there would really be those kind of prohibitions or limitations on which this isnt something that should really be done, no matter how close you are on a certain person but still
it isnt really just that right that you would really be having that kind of approach on which same as you said that they arent running a charity organization but rather a business on which of course
it would really be just that understandable that making with those kind of chit-chats will really be that against with those work ethics. As for the manager then it wouldnt be just right that you would really be
firing him right away on which everyone deserves a second chance on which it would really be just that right on giving out some warnings on the things that he had done.
Explaining about on things on what must not be done and let that someone understand so that in next time it wont be happening again.

When you run a business and you are walking that fine line of being friendly and being an owner, your customers need to know that while you like them, it is still a business. It's not a charity where you can bet without paying until you win. Pay the money, make the bet, and good luck. If you cannot follow that procedure, don't waste your time entering the shop.

I also think the same, I feel that they lapses is on the cashier side, how will a cashier continue to place between for gambler without collecting the money first, this things has procedures, lets forget that most gamblers are everly ready to do anything to make they gamble as such if they see any loope hole they will capitalize on the lapses to do what they like, although most gambling halls are very rowdy as such it can be confusing sometimes for a cashier to actually identify who has paid or not, thats more reason why there should be many cashier's in gambling halls, it is also advisable for cashier to collect money as soon a game is logged in the system to avoid argument or any kind of miscalculation.
For this to happen, is either the cashier was not given a proper orientation which I doubt if such is possible or she refuse to act according to the rules thats guilding the said firm, be it as it may, all blame should be on the cashier because she failed to do the needful.

Cashier is lacking wiseness because I can't see a place where someone would come to gamble and not paying the cashier instead she regularly keep betting on debt while the gambler believe luck would shine and when he noticed that his luck doesn't come as expected he ran away without even paying any to the cashier leaving her devastated. Usually this offense could lead to her being sacked from that local gambling shop.

We should allow people for whom they were because we can't change them, except they make the decision on their own on what to do, it may also occur to them in some cases especially when we think we are helping them out in a situation but to them is like as if we are making things get more complicated for them, everyone should be able to face the reality of the consequences in their gambling decision, we can't force people against their own wish.

That's true , but same time there's alot of folks at there that most of this post made in this thread as actually helped when comes to gambling wisely or healthy gambling. Though is not easy to change from something you have been doing for long it will definitely take time before the changes will start showing. Most people will definitely change after being thought by experience, and that's one thing you don't wanna learn from because it's way of teaching is never pretty .

A little opportunity can make us to make huge money in gambling that is while we keep seeing gamblers that don't even have funds to gamble looking for where to borrow loan to try their luck because they believe anything can happen at anytime. Gambling is for the strong ones and if we don't belief in what we do, then how for we expect to make money from gambling.  There are so many gamblers that like taking dangerous moves when they want to bet especially using huge amounts of funds to get in games that ha s small probability of one winning or with small odds.

Yes, it is a small chance. And on the other hand, there is a big chance of defeat waiting too. Gambling is gambling, luck will always accompany. And there is another factor, when the odds have the ability to do many things, including setting the winner, then manipulation will occur a lot. especially in slot machines. It is a game to enrich the owner of the slot or casino.

Like I once told a story about someone whose life and family were completely destroyed (until now it has not been resolved) due to the dangers of gambling addiction. This was purely because of greed, addiction, and his inability to control himself when gambling. So, he was very easily tempted to bet and bet again without thinking long.

Unfortunately, security cameras do little to solve these problems.
Security cameras are a good option to intimidate and try to prevent crimes from being committed, but once the crime is committed, the camera does not help much. It can be useful as a way to protect the establishment from possible crimes, proving innocence in some scenarios before the courts.

Regarding the situation of guilt, I believe that the cashier is also responsible, because he should have followed the protocol, regardless of the player's situation. Most players will play honestly, but those who will try to act illegally only need an opportunity, a small mistake to be able to commit their crimes.

Regarding the player, he is certainly an addict who no longer thinks about the risks or consequences, all he needs is to continue playing, betting and maintaining the addiction, regardless of what it may cost him.

Sincerely speaking the whole schenerio would have been avoided without CCTV camera, if the gambling staff in that shop took money before allowing the bettor to continue betting. I blame the guy who allow someone to keep gambling till his out of fund and he still allows him to play, that is stupidly. As far as I know betting shop doesn't allow customers to play above their budget because they know gambling comes with addiction and if they don't control the Gamblers the Gamblers will be forced to play above their discretion. Story cut short, all this would have been avoided when the staff of the gambling shop saw that the Gambler bankroll which he has won on their system has finished, he should have just stop to book tickets for him.

Well well, the gambling world is a wild place, specially when it's done physically, man can never or will be very wrong to under-estimate what another man can do, people we place high value on sometimes disappoint us even while looking straight into our eyes.

The same way the dude risked losing his money which he did lost, so also after oweing, he also took the risk of running away without paying, and luckily for him, he succeeded, some persons usually don't care or think too much about repercussions, or after-math effect of their actions, they simply just get up and do what they think they have to do, and that's it.

What has happened has happened, shouting won't bring the dude back, if it's the first time such incident is happening, simply advice the co-worker to be more conscious of customers and careful next time.
But if such thing have happened before and it involves the same co-worker, then deduct the lost money from his or her salary as a way to teach him or her to really be more conscious and careful of such customers.

I am not a magician, and do not work in a casino or betting shop, so I believe this question is not for me, so I don't have to answer it since I have none.

I agree with you, in gambling, whatever the type of game and how, luck will still play a role in determining the victory and defeat that can happen to anyone who gambles. In slot games, I clearly think that victory depends entirely on luck, so it makes sense when this one game is said to enrich the casino or slot owner, because it is rare to win, especially with a big win. Someone who is addicted to gambling tends to have a more aggressive nature than usual because their thoughts that only think about gambling make them not care about other things around them, even their own family, so it is not strange if there are cases of families being destroyed because of someone who is already addicted to the family. Besides, whatever gambling they do can change them into a worse person in their behavior if they themselves cannot limit the gambling they do.

It is a frequent issue in my countryside of course it needs to be addressed, for the gambler it is a case of being over confidence and attaching so much emotion to gambling and not just for a fun probably he or takes gambling as a major means of income, we should always know our limits and stand by it as a gambler. However, the measures to be taken by the management is to install a CCTV camera just as you have mentioned earlier and for the cashier that has made such stupid mistake, the money should be deducted from his salary so he or she could feel the pain and become more careful and conscious in subsequent times of attending to customers as to avoid future occurrence anf for other cashiers too to learn.

To avoid the hassle of physical casinos, gambling in online casinos cannot be trusted blindly because not all casinos are reliable. Incidents like this happen regularly where the casino takes all the money from the users and brings down the website. There is no compromise when choosing a casino site when it comes to money security. 

Although it is a bit of a hassle to sign up and gamble in the reputable casinos, I think you should accept those hassles first and gamble in all those casinos because there will be no chance of cheating if you gamble in these casinos. There are some local casinos in many countries who promote their gambling casinos through various content cricketers on Facebook but when the number of users in that casino increases, those casinos cheat the users. 
So it is better to avoid all these casinos.

Although the betting shop has a poor level of security, such as one of them does not have CCTV at all to at least be used as something to find out about the appearance or characteristics of the person, but in my opinion the incident could have been thwarted or less likely to happen if the cashier really put high alertness and caution by asking the gambler for money every time he wanted to start the game.

So I think the core of the problem is because the cashier is too careless in terms of trusting others, that is a big mistake because we never know whether other people have bad intentions or not, remember that crime does not always happen because of intent but because of opportunity, and yes in the end maybe as you said that most likely the cashier will be fired from his job.

It's just simple stupidity to allow someone to continue betting on credit without payment because I can't seem to rap my around the logic of allow the gambler continue playing except maybe the cashier also is a gambler and believe luck will maybe reach the gambler and then he would pay off but unknowingly to him that sometimes gambling can be really messed up and you can continue chasing your loses till God knows when and still you won't get that amount you are looking for.

Yes, that is right.

It's the fault of that cashier for trusting the gambler just because he won the first time and didn't cash it out so that he could continue gambling. The best scenario should be the cashier giving out that money he won and then he will bet again using that money but the cashier should not hold anything that is not hers anymore.
I think it's a trust issue and I believe the cashier can easily trust a person just by doing that which has become a problem now. I cannot blame her for having such a good trait but if you work in a financial industry like that, you cannot trust anyone with the money except the owner of it.

Depending on how lucky the gambler is that's only when every opportunity can bring back a good result and even if a gambler wants to go hard in trying luck or what so ever, they must not put their reputation at stake or let their actions hurt a third party. Imagine what what would have been the faith of gambler if he was caught and forcefully demanded to pay for the games he has wagered on or what the faith of the staff would be for letting such situation arise.

Gambling's a game of chance, and most folks are playing it blindd. Slot machines are designed to capture your money. Winning is about seeing the chances, knowing the game, and knowing when to walk away, not about luck. Most individuals goof up at that point. One can see gambling as a black hole. It screws with your head, distances you from what counts: family, friends, your own darn life. To be honest, we should either bet smart or not gamble at all. Savish the excitement, but keep under control.

The true test is to risk without allowing it to define you. It's about awareness, understanding the hazards, and not ruining your life or the life of people close to you. Stay the hell away if you cannot manage that.

Probably this betting shop is new in this business with unexperienced workers, because letting someone gamble without depositing his money first is a huge mistake, especially with a large amount of money, even if that person is an old or known customer. Gamblers and bettors can be addicted and change their behavior, they wouldn't mind trying anything illegal to gamble, even the risks of going to jail.
Personally, I never went to a betting shop or any kind of facilities such as casinos. However, I always feel like they are well secured, filled with CCTVs to catch any kind of cheating or stealing.

What I have noticed from your story is the mindset of this gambler who ran away, there are many indicators to know this person is addicted, first he couldn't stop gambling after winning the first time, he tried anything to cheat and bet without money because he surely lost all his money for gambling.

I think that the moment you go out into the street you are already in danger, in fact in the very house where you live you can fall and even kill yourself , as they say here , "when it's day, it's day" but you have to be clear that there are many People who are a bit Crazy and that you have to be Careful of that, therefore in a casino things are handled with money and it is smart to imagine what to do before going out to a casino, because dangerous things can happen, so you have to leave home prepared for any type of eventuality, the mere fact of Being prepared is nough to know how to Act.

I totally agree with you. There should be a policy of pay before service no matter what, especially on gambling shops, where gamblers can go crazy and make some illegal or criminal activities in other to satisfy their gambling habits. I blame the cashier for not being vigilant or smart enough to cut off his customers from gambling without paying at first. Having confidence in gamble is very risky because the game is entirely based on luck, so there is a high probability that the gambler might walk out of the casino with bankruptcy. Payment before service should be the standard In any business transaction because you could be shocked what the result would be if you neglect following the right procedure in business service.

While scurrying off with someone else's money is generally a bad idea and something that I wouldn't recommend entirely, I must say, you must have some semblance of gullibility and whimsy of a kid if you think that everyone's just gonna do whatever they tell you. The cashier's at fault here and they certainly deserve the scolding. The shop lost 32k because of her, and they might never be able to see a cent of it ever, since AFAIK these brick and mortar betting shops don't ask for your information as much as online casinos do.

As for your questions, the answer is plain and simple, would you rather keep the money, even when you lost, or would you want to give it out and be penniless for a while? It's just that basic my friend.

This was totally an unacceptable behavior that needs to be corrected and put further actions by management and must be escalated to Authorities for possible disciplinary actions. CCTV installation is a good alternative or a primary resolution for this dangerous actions, it's recommended to solve any unanswered questions in a possible investigations of any incident like this. That's why the manager should be strict on this matter and don't take for granted this kind of conflict, because it might be worst more than this in the future.

that's where the mistake is, some people do gamble blindly without seeing the luck side which I think plays a big role in determining the win or loss of the bets they make. with many cases of bad impacts that occur are caused by themselves who gamble brutally without any set limits, it is very unfortunate when they gamble excessively like that it will only make them lose more money. until they find serious problems such as addiction that can affect their own relationships with their own families.

many gamblers who place bets are not aware of the risks that are certain to occur, they ignore the risks and of course that's because they only focus on winning. intelligent behavior must be applied, because when gambling is done intelligently, it is unlikely that problems will occur such as gambling addiction that involves many things.

Cashiers don't act just like cashiers alone, they also know how to care for the business. The owner will surely understand the situation and won't force her to pay instantly, but of course, she needs to realize the impact of her mistake. She could quit, but I don't see that as the best solution, as everyone can commit mistakes unless the owner never sees how to accept them and fires her.

Carelessness and being out of focus are things that could affect our performance. But all of these things and the mistakes that happen will earn lessons in return, and that will also help the cashier take more responsibility for her job as the owner trusts her. 

Maybe the shop is still a small unit of the the agent otherwise big gambling agents shops are usually with CCTV cameras. However, cheaters will always try to cheat despite the security devices in place. Yes, it can only make process of identifying the cheater easier.


Cheaters have just one goal in their mind and that is to outsmart their victims. They don't usually allow the feeling of guilt or being caught envelope them, they just go ahead to commit the act once they feel they have secured exit route.


It is simple. I will just remind the attendant that made such mistake about the salary deduction at time of payment. Usually, gambling shops have a way of retrieving such losses that is caused by foolish mistakes on the part of their operator and that is through instant repayment, salary deduction or and forfeiture of belongings like phones pending the time of repayment.


There is none especially if he is not living around the neighborhood except he foolishly comes back to the gambling shop.

People are not robots, sometimes they do make mistakes. I dont think that the owner of casino will force her to work until she repays all the amount, but the cashier will definitely face some punishment. For example no annual bonus like 13th salary. I have also seen some times when casino employees made mistakes offline. When playing poker, several times dealer calculated incorrectly amount of win, sometimes forget to subtract rake or distribute wrong amount of chips. That was a game changing amount. The manager just gave dealer warning, later send to take some rest and replaced with other. I was also amazed that none of gamblers around the table notice that, and later did not charge any questions about it.

         -      Obviously, according to what you mentioned, the cashier clearly has a deficiency; it seems that he lacks orientation, and he is not able to put his emotions in the right place when he is in his current job.
 
So if I were the manager, maybe what I would do would be to talk to not only the head but also his subordinates so that at least they know and are aware of what should and should not be done. That's the only solution I can think of.

In my place if the employees make mistake that resulting in financial loss, they will work until they pays off all the amount or the owner will report them to authority and make them going to jail. Although in this story the owner also responsible with the employees' mistake, but the authority will judge based on how wealthy you're than being objective.

Most of them choose to work, even though every month the salary they receive will be cut to recover the loss.

This entire incident happened because of the carelessness of the entire casino. Generally every casino store has CCTV in every corner and the security has to be very tight, because casino is a means lot of money matter, lot of money are constantly exchanged in the casino. for this, every gambler in every casino must be watched at all times, and it is best if some of the casino officials physically keep an eye on the gamblers at all times.

This entire incident is due to the poor security of that casino, and the gambler who dared to do this. Right now that casino needs to take care of their security.

Lets say she make a mistake but if that company focusing with the earnings for sure there's a sanctions will happen in that incident because its all in the credibility of the cashier and imagine if the play manage to make a a large amount of cashout, those payable and receivables of the company will surely notice this kind of mistake. But imagine if that large amount deducted into your salary it was a huge loss into your part. Most likely in the corporate world there's warning, next a sanctions with dismissal and final is the termination but for sure that kind of expensive mistake will be marked to you fortunately.

Before visiting a gambling shop, I consider the number of people in the room. If there are too many, I'd check for a serene gambling shop. Aside from the dangers of physical destruction, airborne diseases can be contracted in an overly crowded small shop.

Also, a player can't focus in a noisy environment, and, some psychos get destructive when everyone is not calm. Despite the high chances of trouble, it's in the gambler's jurisdiction to perceive trouble and control himself out of danger.

That’s what they call gambling addiction, addicted gamblers don’t care about what’s going to happen to them after gambling, they just want to gamble, and some of them do regret their actions after gambling, but it’s already too late. How is someone reasonable going to gamble on debt? It doesn’t make any sense.
 
But I blame the cashier for allowing something like that to happen. Before anyone is allowed to gamble, they should make payment first. After the guy won some money, he should be paid, and if he wants to keep on gambling, he should pay.

I will go beyond shouting at him, I will make sure he learns from his foolishness so that next time he won’t repeat the same. I will make sure he pays at least half of the money that the customer ran away with by removing some amounts of money from his salary over time.

I'm sure that’s going to help, because I know the person will be in the neighborhood, no matter how he tries to run. With time, he will be caught and punished.

Honestly I can't say that the cashier was too kind to let the gambler gamble without first collecting the payment, but what is certain is that he was very careless in terms of trust, and on the other hand I think regardless of whether the cashier is a gambler or not I think it has nothing to do with this problem, because he should have acted professionally, in the sense of understanding that work is a job that is covered by many rules and regulations and gambling is something else, meaning it is not something that can be used as a defense.

So maybe in my opinion the cashier was not professional and careful in carrying out his work so that he did not apply caution and vigilance, I will repeat the idea that I have conveyed before that crime does not always occur because of intent but because of opportunity.

Your place is tough. Every gamblers win = casinos financial loss. Right? If by dealer mistake gambler wins millions in jackpot, that dealers children generations will have to work for casino then? Sounds wrongs.

Casinos employees and dealer especially seems to be most unhappy and unsafe job. If you do something wrong, casino might suffer a huge loss. If a gambler losses, he blames the dealer and threatens him. Not to mention that dealer has to listen all that clients crap and be humiliated by clients.

From what I understand from what you have said, let me point out that, there is actually no job that is completely safe and free from employers or employees making some form of mistakes, and explains the fact rhat happiness is a personal decision afterall.

Someone I know some time in the past, around 2018 was withdrawing around 28 usdt from an exchange known as etherflyer, but instead the exchange sending the 28 usdt, they sent 28 eth instead, I told my friend to send back the money but he refused, like 2 months after, he told me that he contacted the exchange and told them about the error, they customer care told him that it was an employee that made the mistake, and he's been sacked and no longer works for the exchange.

So, this is just to let you know that mistakes are every where, not just with gambling casinos, operators, as well as employees just have to be careful, automate as much that can be automated and minimize manual tasks, cus computers can only carry out tasks it's programmed to carry out, but humans can make some really serious mistakes at times.

If I am the manager of owner of the shop and it did happend for the first time, I'd spare that moment but I'll make sure that a serious punishment will be done to the cashier if ever caught with the same mistake. We have that word about doing it twice is too much and that's what I am going to tell that staff. And before doing any bets, I'll change the policy to pay first before gamble. That is what needed to be enforced for them to have an idea that you are serious with your business and so with customers like that won't be able to bypass the process of the betting shop.

I'll make a sign board to become a reminder that everyone who wants to gamble needs to pay first. No credits, no loans, no whatsoever reasons why they cannot pay first. And will give that sign too of "no pay, no win". That's easier to be understood by most of the gamblers because the betting shop is a business that needs to survive too and not a charity that will just give out winnings to the bettors that didn't even casted any bet or taken a ticket from the cashier.

That's how it works in most places. As they say, money is power. So, someone wealthy has powers and authorities will give them priority but this works in countries where constitutions and laws aren't respected the way they should be and authorities and the officials are mostly corrupt so they can do anything for money. That's why, if such a case goes to the police or authorities in such a country, the poor employee will have to suffer more than the loss.

This is why when someone is working in a big firm or a company and if they make a mistake that causes loss to the firm or company, they will have to repay the loss to get rid of the issue unless the owner or the boss is a good human being and they don't take the anger out on the employee but that doesn't happen everywhere.

Or if the contract says that you are free to go ;D But it's usually not, of course.

From what you have described, it seems like there are consequences for mistakes in your workplace, especially when it comes to financial losses. It's true that mistakes can happen in any job, not just in gambling casinos. It's important for both employers and employees to be careful and try to minimize errors. Automating tasks can help reduce the risk of human error.

Yep, and sometimes those mistakes can lead to bad situations ;D Some people are more forgiving than others, but, some situations require the guilty to be punished.

The whole fault lies with the cashier. because normally as a cashier of a gambling bet office you are supposed to be vigilant with your customers more especially in the virtual side because if you are not smart enough you will see that at the end of the day you are going to end up paying unnecessary debts.

One strategy that most customers normally use in virtual betting is after placing a bet without paying immediately. they observe to see how smart you are, and before you know they'll still place another game just to confuse you further. However, I think the best way for a cashier to overcome this is by using a calculator to keep track of the balance, which can help resolve any potential disputes.

Actually its really that part of your job or work on which its just that normal that you should really be that attentive for whatever possible things that could happen. It would really be just that dumb of you
if you do let someone do make out some bets just because you do assume or presume that he might be able to win up the next bet? That would really be a suicide and you are really that putting up your job
at risks or simply losing it. Who would really be on their right minds that will really be letting someone to make out some bet because they are confident that a certain bettor would be able to hit up on next bet?
It would really be just that understandable that human beings do commit out mistakes but this one is really just that too risky for you to do such thing.

When money is involved then it will really be always recommended on having that proper calculations and of course, dont let someone do make out or place bets without paying up.
It is really that common sense. No matter what situations they are into, always be attentive into the work you do have. Always having that secure transactions so that you wouldnt
really be putting up yourself on such tough situations such as this.

I think this is one of the most common gambling bad habits that gradually and eventually morph's into addiction. Most times the moment you get immersed in that loop of trying to recover all your losses from other consecutive bets in just one bet then you end up placing bets without properly thinking everything through and in the end you find yourself betting over and over again to no avail.
If you gambling is fully driven by the emotions of greed to recover all your funds, then you will lose even more and most times before the gambler can notice all his losses he pretty much would have blown his account.  I think it's important to have a prediction pinned in mind before you proceed to trying to place bets.

There is a good concept in a professional manager, namely take and give, namely employees who make contributions will be given rewards while employees who make mistakes or cheat will be punished according to the terms and conditions, if I were a gambling businessman and found my employee making a mistake then of course I would punish him, there is no reason to forgive it because the more often it is forgiven, the perpetrator will not understand what is wrong and what is right, that is dangerous.

You need to have calculated the risk and the loss, before deciding to take the bet. A person who may gamble with these valuations will certainly lose in the long run. Even i can say that you can bet on any team blindly and still be safe if you have managed your portfolio well but if you only study on the teams / players to place the bet and give no value to money management, you cannot be classified as a successful gambler. Managing both your money and risk is utmost important in gambling.

But the problem is, how can the gambler gamble without making a payment in advance and thus, the casino does not have good rules or does not have strict rules that are applied. Because of course, making bets without making payments is a serious problem how it can happen because it can be practiced by people or players or gamblers who  do not have money on the pretext of paying it when they win. But anyway, the reality is that the person is also unable to win in gambling and maybe, cases like this are also the same as those who gamble but by borrowing money to gamble, until finally they lose and do negative actions and of course that is bad behavior.

I can't imagine how this gambler could play without money at all. It's a very serious mistake. The owner of this institution should scold not only the employee who allowed this misunderstanding, but also the security staff who did not foresee that this is even possible. So the institution has not lost anything, but it should become a lesson for the owner. After all, if this gambler was lucky again, the institution would have lost a large amount of money.

Any gambler must ensure that he has that amount of money and deposit it before placing any bet. How a gambler can bet even if he doesn't have enough money. I've never seen that anywhere. If a gambling house were to offer such an opportunity there would be events like the op described. I would totally blame that business owner for that.  Because it's his fault he didn't mention it in the rules and he doesn't have a controller as well. no one can guarantee winning at gambling so no one should ever be allowed to bet without money

This story doesn't have any sense, or likely any truth to it at all. The first rule that a gambling company follows is to make sure the customer pays up, unless it's some kind of special promotion. They are not going to give someone the ability to free play continuously until they win big, for exactly the reason you have described - they basically end up in a reverse martingale situation. What sort of game machine would even allow someone to play without paid up credit. Nevermind the stupidity of the imaginary cashier, it doesn't make sense as a story that you've come up with for some reason. Nobody is getting arrested in this situation because the police would not even bother showing up to a civil matter like this.

I don't think it's about the gambler but it's about the management system, and not necessarily bent on if there's a CCTV camera or not but while operating such offline casinos or shops for betting one need to have allocated for such cause this like the basic requirements for owning such places so some illegal Acts can be monitored and captured as well.But I think it was taken likely so where I really want to put in more lite on it's the aspect of the cashier not been vigilant enough and smart to take not of this tiny misconduct, when making payments and after win and the gamblers wants to play more payments should be made first, so if it's online casinos would this occur? Of course not,and I don't think there's any means to get hold of the culprit and apprehend him except been spotted out there.so it's a lesson today for such unforseen circumstances.

As for CCTV's then it will really be that something be standard specially into these type or kind of business on which this do really involves huge sum of money that it is transacted in between but we do know that this kind or type of situation isnt something that could really be that solved out but of course trying out to see on whose that gambler and sees up the face will really be giving out that kind of lead in compared into those places which doesnt have these cameras. So it is really that something should have on a business such as this. They arent that expensive but really be very helpful specially into these kind of conditions or situations.Just like on what everyone is telling on here that this is really that on cashier negligence. Who would be the ones on their right mind on allowing someone to bet without having money? There's not definitely you cant be able to
do this on an online casino on which we know that payments first policy will really be always the main requirement for you to push tourh when it comes into your bet. Wondering on whats up with the mind of that cashier?  :-\

The people who had money will had their voice in the law making.This also reason for many countries people doesn’t like to play the gambling,but the country favours the gambling site and allow their citizens to play.If the gambler is civilised person,he will get into less loss or less gain.The random players in the gambling site will make huge profit or huge loss based on their luck in that day.The huge gain in the gambling site not affect the gamblers and give some short term benefits.But the huge losses will make the gamblers more critical financial situation.Sometimes the official of the gambling sites involve in the internal corruption.

Once people are desperate in doing an evil deeds, they will be this is the kind of mentality of those that are involved in stealing, they would have given it up on whatsoever thing that may comes out of it, that they are going to take it with fate, in whatsoever thing that comes their way, if we gets caught, then he has given up already, but if he manage to scape at all cost, the next thing to come his mind is about how smart he is.

The country that allow their citizens to choose between gambling or not to gambling are doing the absolute right time. It's not civilized to detect for people what they can do or not to do. All adults should be allowed to make their own decision and decide if they're going to become gamblers or not. The government should know already that gambling isn't bad as they're making it to be. Casino pay taxes and contribute to the development of the society and they have role to play in the economy of the states they're located. Anyone misbehaving should be punished and not punished everyone because some people didn't know who to behave around casino.

Banning all th casino in the world wouldn't stop gambling because people are going to develop new means on how they can gamble. Something like street gambling and since it won't be regulated, it's going to be more danger than how people are currently gambling in caisnos.

Only a machine run by a newbie who doesn't cares much about his/her or their losses but about the satisfaction of the customer, which's more likely an imaginary type of satisfaction rather than something that has any relation with reality.

The cashier was stupid enough to allow a gambler to gamble with the credits without paying in advance or pre-paying for the credits and the cashier was even more stupid that he let the gambler run away without paying him even after losing that many credits.

In such case it's the fault of the cashier or the one who manages such type of gambling area because if they allow such type of activity then in most cases addict gamblers will do something like that.