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The TON ecosystem has been on a high run since the Notcoin launch. To be honest, I thought it would see some setbacks after some Telegram ‘tap to earn’ projects disappointed people, but it seems we are likely to see more upward momentum in the ecosystem because it’s now trending more than ever. Some say the idea of merging Web2 and Web3 plays a big role in maintaining that energy, but do you think the hype will soon die down, or are we likely going to see even more growth? Because, believe it or not, this team knows what they’re doing.

When NOT was launched, its price was $0.00999. The price today is $0.0105 after it increased to almost $0.03. PIXFI increased is also falling significantly and people have lost significantly. DOGS would be launched very soon, but I will not be surprised if it pumped like NOT and PIXFI and later start to fall. It is better for people to be very careful with those coins. Gamble with them.

Dogs is receiving much more hype and exposure than Notcoin or Pixfi did. Exchanges are blazing hot with giveaways for Dogs traders. We've already got Bitget, Gate, and Bybit offering decent rewards. With all these factors, I'd say Dogs is well-equipped to do well.

TON ecosystem project is trending now, many projects from various other ecosystems are also joining in the hype. I think this trend project will last long because investors are also enthusiastic because the community is easy to find from the telegram platform network. This makes it easy for participants to access

these coin isn't really suited for long term holding as it seems.
but the gain we can potentially made along the way isn't something that we can just ignore, pixfi literally went 10x few days after listing, despite i believe that part of it success due to people trying to find not coin successor but yes the price just dumped not long after.

same thing will likely to happen to DOGS, i will use NOT COIN data to determine the right time to buy or sell DOGS as it seems using historical price action is plausible in this scenario granted, there will be no BTC dumping that could disrupt the entire plan.

but speaking about TON ecosystem, i'm sure even if all the coin tanked, it will still sustain, but at lower valuation.

To be fair, these are all things that are living through the incredible hype that they have and nothing that will take too long to exist, we know that it will not happen and we should be trying to avoid it as much as we can. We should consider how we can make it work one way or another and because of that I believe that we are going to see this growing to be a huge place, nothing can be changed.

We need to consider investing into things that will not be all that complicated, it has to be something that will be not that hard to invest into things that are long term. Find that and we are going to have a much better result, it has to be not that hard to just avoid hyped stuff. This is one of those hyped stuff and that means it is not going to have anything good after a while. Dogs, not, hamster, all of them are just useless stuff that will not end up with any good result in the end, it's just the way we should be considered long term, it's that simple.

I'll give you logical comparison of what's happening in the market.

2017-2018 = ICOs/IEOs/STOs and then bear market came, they're no longer a thing today.
2020-2021 = Meme coins/NFTs, play to earn, they're still sort of a thing today but the majority of those NFTs that were in hype before are no longer known today.
2024-2025 = Meme coins still/TAP mining(TON) but I am expecting that they're not going to be a thing once the bear market comes.

So what's the clear winner here? the meme coins? LOL. I guess that it's a survivor in nature but many of them will fade too.

Interesting analogy, but memes are here to stay, in my opinion, while hype on tap-taps is going to fade away eventually.

I wouldn't argue with that about memes because they're here to stay for sure but we don't generalize that all of them are going to stay. The most common and top ones are going to stay but many of them are made trying to fish some money in the market but mostly failed. Those are the ones that will be removed eventually. So, out of the thousands or many of meme coins, there will be only few that shall remain in the mainstream.

We have the same thought about that but TON will stay thanks to Telegram itself but whichever it is going to use for its market and survival, it's a connection that we might see for it to live. But as for the direct things with the tap apps, many of them will be forgotten after this cycle.

Yep, now, the hype for degens is moving to TRON, as I've heard ;D
And TON, of course, is a corner stone which will live on, even with many projects which will go to dust for different reasons in the time to come.

I am not sure about that and haven't heard of it yet. But coming from ETH -> BSC -> SOL -> TON -> TRON? possible.

No doubt that the main projects like TON as L1 will continue to live on as long as they have their own and main business for the Telegram. But for the L2s that are going to be using it, we don't know for how long they're going to stay even if they will have a successful launching.

Token sales are definitely still a thing. And many of them are technically close to ICOs, even if they aren't called by that. They are more regulated and distribution method isn't just "send us eth, and we send you tokens later". But way more sophisticated and some of them at least try to be more regulatory friendly. Sale methods are mostly just IDOs and IEOs are called "launchpad"s now. There are private sales too. Just public basic token sales (ICOs) have gone down.

NFTs might not be as high as when people were freaking over them, but they definitely have more volume then when i started to play with them in 2019. Especially bitcoin NFTs have been popular during this year.

"Meme tokens" as in whole never went away and never will. Even though it's same with every kind of asset in crypto; which is the fact that most of them will die anyway.

The ecosystem will stay on the rise as long as projects are hyping it up. If the projects doing airdrops using mini bots succeed and players and other people see that it's worth spending time and money on, the demand will go higher, but if projects fail to deliver what the masses are expecting from them then that is where the downfall of the ecosystem will start and everything will start falling apart from that point because people won't trust the projects anymore after that.

Hamster Kombat has been delaying the TGE and this is now making their players frustrated. So such things can make a bad image for the ecosystem, in my opinion.


The current tap apps will be gone, for sure, but as long as TON stays, there will be new projects coming up because projects have seen how much potential it has to be launching through Telegram because you get a lot of free promotion for only running an airdrop. The hype might fade away in the distant future, but for a few years into the future, we are going to see this going on.

meme coin is a niche on its own and it's quite resilient one, honestly trend of meme coin already here way before elon musk shill or even before 2017 as I remember.

the thing with meme coin is, it serves the purpose of being a tool for speculation, unlike other that just temporary trend because they abide to the narrative, meme coin is filled with people full of hope trying to find the next hidden gem.
since every cycle there are plenty of meme coin that made it to market cap of half billion and beyond, people keep getting their hope refueled, sorta giving false hope to keep the trend alive ;D.

so I expect meme coin to still live on even a decade later. but if there are too many scammers, it will eventually die.

If we look at the TON community which is increasing day by day, I think the TON ecosystem will grow rapidly in the future, because the demand for TON is increasing, so it is not surprising that currently TON can compete in the TOP 10 cmc, and I am very optimistic that TON will become a gem that will shine in the future,

Absolutely, Jose. Following the success of Dogs TGE, I anticipate a surge in Ton ecosystem projects. With Bitget and Foresight Ventures committing $20 million to TON, I've been closely monitoring the space to position myself for promising opportunities. I've already identified CATS and MAJOR in the pre-market and will continue exploring more projects with potential.

but the TON community is driven by reward from playing game, I won't exactly call it community, since people will just cash out and dipped later on.
We will see how big of a community the TON community is after the airdrop craze finally fades, currently TON is facing hardship of scalability, the transaction halted for few hours before and now it's happening again.
TON isn't as good as people seem to imagine, so many flaw, but we'll see how it will fare.

personally, I don't think TON at this current point deserve the big market capitalization value that it currently has, so over inflated in my opinion.

Only time will tell whether TON will remain in high regard. If they are going to fix their TPS for real while having a surge of transactions (Hamster Kombat is near to test that ;D), that would be a great upgrade.

it's such a disappointing news that TON TPS is actually embarrassingly low in practice though

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with just DOGS airdrop alone enough to freeze the entire TON blockchain making it stop producing blocks and some people said TON scalability is great, I think it's a stretch and as usual with the newer blockchain that claims they have gazillion TPS, turns out when tested for real, it's only few hundreds TPS max or the entire blockchain shutdowns temporarily ;D.

That is the biggest problem that TON has, most of the "investors" are just a bunch of people who use it for a while and get their profit and leave. There aren't that many long term investors to keep it high, it's only active and has volume because people believe that they can make some money from the games right now, the moment that hype dies down and trend goes away, we are going to end up seeing TON not get that much attention and the ranking will fall.

There has been a lot of projects that got high for a while and dropped later on before, this could very well be one of those and I think that's an important information, we need to make sure that it goes without much issues and TON is a risky one to go on without issues.

This is very disappointing because indeed the TON Blockchain is not what the team said, they have a few days of disruption, even I have not been able to send my USDT and TON from the Telegram wallet to the Exchange today, and the price has dropped quite far.

If there is no improvement in this problem, it is likely that the TON network will collapse and fade, and maybe they will return to their initial release price, even though the current momentum is the best momentum for TON because there are so many application developments in telegram, but the TON network cannot fully support it all in terms of transactions.

TON community is going rapidly big because so many new project (tap to earn airdrops project) is launching and some them already listed on top exchanges and those coins have around billions of market capitalization and millions of users have to make transactions in TON Network who's guys are new in this network, that's the way TON is going crazy, and it’s already top 10th ranking coin in CMC.

since pavel is having problem, maybe the solution will be delayed, we don't know how autonomous TON is without the core founder like pavel, it's like ETH losing vitalik, though i'm sure the people behind ton blockchain could solve it, but they definitely have something more urgent to take care of so I don't expect immediate solution.

but it's just disappointing that the TPS is really far from what have been marketed. even ETH didn't shut down when there are many so many transactions just fee spike and that's it. despite ETH being called out as the least scalable smart contract blockchain nowadays.

Without currently spending much time there, I am a huge fan of Telegram and will start using it more. Their new browser is huge news, and this is a great time to learn all the features, since there will be many opportunities to benefit from and enjoy their huge ecosystem. It's been a few days since I checked if the CEO is still being detained in France, will be interesting to see how many people turn away, or if the growth continues.

I agree, it's quite a warning, really ;D Imagine what will happen when Hamster Kombat launches..

I would say we can't say any of them will stay neither, we d onto know the future and making assumptions that they will stay is not really a smart way. First of all we know that only a few are good, we check the ranks and only like handful of them are highly ranked, the rest are purely shitcoins and nothing more, the yare all terrible, I can name you 5 memecoins that are ranked well, there is no sixth, they are all terrible and should not be invested.

I would agree that those five could stay, there is a big potential that they could stay, they have a good amount of community to keep them going and I would understand if they stay, it would make sense. However, we can't even say that about bitcoin itself, saying they will stay is not really a smart thing, always be on the lookout and these are all hyped stuff so when hype dies down, they may not stay too, that's an option. I am definitely not saying they won't stay neither, I am just saying there is no guarantee.

I think the foundation behind TON is quite conscious about the scalability issues, I guess they will propose solution like what solana did in their testnet but I don't think it will be solved anytime soon.

the problem was quite similar to solana too, but it also goes to show that TPS that are tested in lab with perfect set up doesn't guarantee same outcome in real practices. so, many blockchain that claims to have hundred thousand TPS is just marketing buzzword unless proven otherwise in my opinion.

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Yeah, it's a beautiful picture sometimes and not the reality, unfortunately.
Thanks for pointing it out and mentioning the Solana!

I hope that it will, eventually, be solved.
Because, you, know, having outages like we've had for days is not a good sign for the credibility of the blockchain and its stability.

This is a correct approach and I think it is going to be something that will improve the future and we shouldn't really be considering anything further for our cause at all. I understand that we are going to see this growing bigger and I understand that it is not going to be that easy to fix it neither, we should consider how to get better results and we could probably get a better approach for sure.

We should just consider how to get better results by making sure that we deal with something that could be done in a different way. So the best way to make money is to avoid hypes, if you keep on investing into hypes then you will lose a lot of money.

Those memecoins, these ton stuff, nft's whatever you are talking about, if it's all because of some hype then there is no reason to invest because it's usually short lived. We should always try to consider this to be something that will be a good result and keep on holding for long term for many years if you want to profit.

My personal view is that the TON ecosystem will grow until the end of the bitcoin cycle now I am sure of it and will grow the price of TON to be even better, seen from where? this can be seen from the growing number of users, the presence of airdrops that are always successful from the telegram application will increase the interest of new people to continue to grow, not a few people will learn how crypto will work, likewise Defi in TON will definitely grow along with many other projects to complete the TON ecosystem, besides that, it is also common for those who build Mini apps on Telegram not only to be used by Ton Chain but other Chains can also, with this other projects will be interested in building their projects on Telegram and in terms of benefits, this TON chain will become an object for partners.

But talking about whether it will fade or not, this will be seen how successful they are in building the TON ecosystem that benefits many parties.

TON getting a lot of attention from a lot of projects, with the airdrop segment growing very strongly, this is important for TON if they can't control this or rug issues may happen then in my opinion TON with its existing user base from telegram will still grow until the next cycles of bitcoin. For the crypto market, staying boring is failure and I guess TON will not let this happen.

I don't expect the TON ecosystem hype to fade. It seems to be one of the most useful blockchain lately. I'm not talking about big industries but for anyone who wants to get something or some rewards from crypto these days.

Because of the TON network, we now see people who got into crypto a few months back explaining how it works to OGs. LOL. While OGs now pretend as if they know nothing about it. This means the TON network is really making people have more interest in crypto.

I've also seen a few exchanges, like Bitget and others, make it free for users to withdraw TON with no fees, while the ones with fees charge a very low fee.

It would be interesting how TON chain will take challenges to come, mainly big chain load from the likes of Hamster Kombat, and when the hype behind mini-apps slowly fades away - will the community and TON foundation come with more projects that would have more real use-cases?
Only time will tell.

TON hasn't gained enough hype to truly stand out this year, but the TON ecosystem is definitely growing.
I've noticed a lot of promising developments within the TON ecosystem. Many users are just a few steps away from earning money or getting involved in crypto through TON trading. If everything continues as expected, the TON ecosystem could really take off next few month.
We might see the TON ecosystem dominate in 2025.

Yes, i agree, compared to what I see besides BRC20, AI coin, TON still creates something new and unique along with the user base always ready on telegram, I think TON should still be praised for the development and expansion of their ecosystem. TON has not reached the hype state yet but also creates its own strength. In the near future, TON may reach the real hype.

I got the impression that ton user growth and ecosystem growth is sustaining, it seems like most of project in ton could always get a deal with biggest entity in crypto such as binance, and other exchanges.
although hardly I see any project coming from ton listed on coinbase these days but nevertheless the trading volume in binance alone already such a huge deal for the longevity of the hype.

expect more things to come, many people still sleep on ton trend, there are still many projects available that can be a good opportunity.

at some point I think ton will just bounce so high like solana, though current ton market cap is already high enough in my opinion, but ton I think deserve to be above XRP and DOGE in term of market cap.

Yes I quite agree with you after the Not join and DOGS the ton coin really hits the market even binnace is list the network too but if you ask me TON Ecosystem’s Momentum: Will the Hype Sustain or Fade? The momentum will fade if there is no other development because dogs alone the network is congested and even cant produce a block.

For now TOn is just like other chain eg. Layer 2 of etherum they still build their ecosystem if the ecosystem continue grow then the momentum will stay

While I do not think that this current amount of hype will sustain, I also do not think that TON will go into oblivion neither. I think it will continue to be strong for a while, maybe not claim up the ranks or anything like that but it is going to be fine and we could see this grow further and could maybe make some good amount of money from it as well. I know that it is not an easy thing to do but I think it is going to be a good investment nevertheless.

The best thing to do right now would be just holding some more TON, but make sure that the moment when these few other examples end up failing then we can get out, right now there are few other projects that everyone expects to pay out, like hamster kombat and dogs and such, if those do well then it will sustain but if those fail then it will fade.

In connection with the surge in transactions on the ton network and the slow validator (indexer) of course the network will be slow and congested so that many transactions are delayed when submitting claims from several airdrops that have been listed using their network. Clearly, this will be homework that they must overcome immediately on the other hand, there are also many outlets/receivers out there who provide purchases of ton coins with small denominations which are usually used for telegram users who participate in campaigns to pay fees when claims are made.

If you say gambling then it is understandable than just holding for long because one can't entirely rely on these newly launched coin instead can buy some of it and gamble with it to watch how the price manipulations goes, and if it goes well then they can decides to make enough profits at their own expenses and if there is any lose then it would be what they can afford to lose.
The main purpose of these coin are just to utilized the bull run that is around the space and they knows that most project succeed during bull but lets keep our finger crossed if they would succeed after bull run.

The price value of these TON network projects after launched are mainly controlled by the current trend and hype of the period rather than market news and that's why we'll keep seeing a fall in price after from the short time of launching. As new projects get launched investors pull out of the old  to jump into the newly launched for a quick profit leading to a pump in the new and dump in the old, and it goes on and on in as much as these telegram tapping projects keeps finding their way into the market.

Do you think TON chain will change its ways after this period of mini-apps ends?
I do hope so ::)

Well the hype is all depends on the investors .and no one knows when the hype will fade. If i were you took all the opportunity to gain while it still making promises and don't ever think to hold if you see some negative sign or something that can put you into risk situation. Too good to be true OP especially on alts.

Another reason for these newly launched tokens losing value is that they airdrop most of their supply, and as soon as users get their tokens, most of them sell them immediately because the price is usually up at the beginning after the listing and it starts dropping because people keep dumping their tokens and there are usually more sellers than buyers which is why the sellers keep reducing their asking price and that makes the price go down eventually.

I wouldn't recommend anyone investing money in these tokens because they usually don't have much credibility. Look at $HMSTR as an example. The token was trading above $0.014 after the listing, but it dropped significantly after that and now it's trading below $0.006 which is a huge drop.

So these tokens are not good for early investments, in my opinion.