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A colleague in office played a game (sport bet) and the booking codes were given to him by another of his friend and he played the game exactly how the guy presented code with the number of odds. And the gambler who game him the codes, played more odds to win bigger and when the match finally ended, this my colleague odds entered and he won $7,600 and the guy who gave him the booking codes loss the game.

When he heard the that the game he gave to his friend entered for the guy and he loss the game so the guy was speechless and he was in pain throughout the week. And the guy who won the game, gave him $200. If you were the guy who loss the game which you were the one gave him the codes. What will you do? Lolz. Gambler's life. Life goes on. Have you predicted a game for some and the person won the game but you loss out?

$200 is enough thank you for helping him with the odds. He took on the full risk of the game and would have not been compensated if he had lost his entire wager, so there is no burden of expectation to give out more of his winning. No one knows what personal needs will take up a huge amount of the winning.

I don't predict games for people, I just gamble when I feel like usually at the spur of the moment.

It is similar to this thread: Consequences of greed (http://Consequences of greed). Except that you asked a question.

Yes mate, just wanted to point that out also because, there is a thread where we are already discussing something similar to this, although the other thread did not mention that amount in bet, but stated that the gambler who got the code won about 15 million or there about.

Between it normal to see such situations because from the m every point of view the guy that predicted the game is not wrong in any ways, just that that game was not his lucky game that is why he ended up adding more games.

He didn't owe him anything, but tipping $200 was a nice gesture, especially if the first guy put a lot of time and effort into analysing odds etc. Although if he acted entitled and demanded more, he shouldn't give him any money, unless they had some profit-sharing arrangement.


Good for you. Giving others investment or gambling advice very rarely ends well. People's resentment when something goes wrong is much stronger than their gratitude when things go right. It's just human nature to blame others for our failures or to downplay other people's role in our successes.

I don’t think any of them mentioned the amount they staked, just the amount won.


It’s normal when it has to do with little odds - it’s rare to read situations like this that has to do with millions - if it was games like 10 - 20 odds I would have categorized it has “normal” but having the ones that results in millions nah! There are not “normal”. Although, we didn’t get the amount they bet and the odds but I’m sure no one would be willing to stake up to a $100 for a game they got the code for free.

This is just something about personal decisions. You are not entitled to say that you must give the guy something at the end of the day. I mean, the one who played the bet without making any changes to the game.
 
If you have a free heart, you can give the predictor of the game out of your own good will. What you think is very okay is not a compulsory thing that must be done, but to show care and appreciation is reasonable.

It is not greediness but regret. However, there is nothing to be angry or ashamed of. The picks were the same only that he decided to add more games to the ticket hoping to win bigger than his friend he gave the other short games to.

I have not given anyone any booking code to gamble because I do not want anyone to blame me for their loss. But I received a code at my earlier stage of gambling from a friend which I won, and he failed to bet the game because of a lack of money. When he realized the game played he was full of regret and he begged me for little money so he can gamble the next day.

It's a classic case of buyer beware, I guess. If I were in his shoes, I’d probably laugh it off (after the sting wears off) and chalk it up to experience. At least he got $200 out of it! Have I been there? I've never gotten into that world, but I can imagine the disappointment of seeing someone else win with your tips. It's a gamble, after all. Life goes on, and hopefully, lessons are learned from experiences like this, next time could be the big win!

I often think that if I have to give a suggestion to another gambler, if he loses, he will blame me, which I don't like. But many people are looking for different clues and information even though they have their own. I only share my predictions with gamblers when they request too much but i asked them if they lose then I have no responsibility. If they agree to this condition then I give them my prediction. If they can win my predictions then I am happy. There is nothing to envy here. However, sometimes i feel regret if one cannot win. If someone benefits from my prediction, I am not jealous but feel proud.

Accept the loss as a man, that's basic. If you are a real gambler, this will not hurt you or jealous, it's part of the gambling.

I already experienced this multiple times, most of the persons I am sharing with the predicted games are also my friends, so I am happy for their winnings even if they give me a few bucks from their winnings or nothing, it's their winnings and money.

If to me, I would feel a mix of disappointment, sadness, and jealousy that I am that person who issued the gambling rule, yet ended up losing while the other won hard. I would look at this as a lesson learned like what went wrong with my gamble? I would adjust the strategy intentionally in the future. Keeping a positive attitude in mind, notwithstanding the obstacle, is not to let it overwhelm my emotions with the thought that the results of gambling are uncertain. I would be thankful and happy that my donation is accepted if the winner gives me $200 as a goodwill gesture. In the end, focus would be given to future bets and opportunities and just keep looking forward despite the current loss.

Gambling is a game of luck why do we predict bets for other people but different from our own choices, isn't that the same as trapping them and those who follow our predictions can experience defeat and we win it, want to trap but are trapped in their own game so they have to experience painful defeat, if we don't want to experience pain like that it's better to make the same prediction as our friends if they lose we also lose on the other hand if we win our friends also win and that's fair or not give predictions to anyone at all and make predictions for yourself.

Op I think a thread similar to this has been created before , though I can't figure out the exact thread right now. But if I was the one that predicted the game and later lose due to not being stable, I would feel sad for not haven't followed my first prediction. I would learn my lesson to follow my mind by not changing prediction. rather I may play the first game on ticket 1 and made some changes in ticket 2, not just changing my initial prediction. Because if the predictor didn't change his own game after giving it to your friend, I guess he would have equally won as well.

I don't think so.

I agree. He did well and, life goes on! There will be more opportunities in the future.

why are your friends painful? he managed to give an extraordinary prediction for your friend. but unfortunately, it was not his luck. your friend has shared a little gratitude for the prediction given. but will your coworker's friend ask for another prediction from his friend?
there is a possibility that it could happen again, but maybe your coworker's friend will not give it easily. his friend has had an experience that his prediction was quite good at that time, so if he shared it with your coworker, he should not have made his previous mistake.

however, it is a prediction. we as gamblers also usually do that for a bet. placing a betting code given by a friend is also common because we know that it is luck that is the final result. no need to feel painful or act excessively towards the results obtained by friends. we just have to think that we are not lucky and luck is on our friend.

And we should be happy for our pals nevertheless! ;D

This seems more like stupidity, rather than greediness.
If you have winning sports betting predictions, why would you give them to another guy? I understand that you don't lose anything by sharing them with another guy, but I usually don't share my sports bets with other people, because they might put the blame on me for losing.
If you think that the "booking codes"(or parlay bets) are going to win, why would you change them? Changing even one element in a parlay bet could lead to a loss. If someone gave me a winning bet and I won a substantial amount of money, I would give him more than 200 USD.

I think have seen similar post like this one,but can't figure out the subject of the thread but this things happens occasionally in the life of a gambler and sometimes it'll definitely leave you speechless.

But giving someone a code to a bets and the person wins whereas you lose its nothing of greed cause the guy was just trying to share the code with his friend,so here's where luck comes in,his friend had to win while he lose and it's no big deal meanwhile he was offered $200 which is a huge sum and I think the guy was grateful for what his friend did that's why he gave him that amount from his wins.
So it ain't greediness but friendship and loyalty that's what played here.

I will accept that money even if I lose my money from that bet. I will not thinks much about that because I think I am a lucky guy that helps other people to win the bet. No matter if I can not win, I can accept the situation because I am sure that I can win in the next bet so I will still gives my prediction to some people who want. But I never predicted a game for some people and that people win the game but I lose my money.

But the will to win big can make us lose the money if we don't know that we have the chance to win or not. We don't have to be greedy when place a bet because we don't know we can win in gambling or will lose. So instead just risks our money too big in gambling, it is better we place a bet with the money we can afford to lose. That will prevents from the lose.

that you gave me a game to stake and it ended up playing out the way you predicted doesn't mean that I owe you any percentage of the profit. If I decide to give you, it should be totally out of my generosity to reward you for the help you rendered and nothing more. It's not right to feel entitled at all since you hard your chance of winning but chooses to squander it all out. This sort of event has happened countless numbers of times and in some instances, after you've given some one a sure game you feel will play out the person goes ahead to playing with an amount that's more than what he should have gambled with and loses the money in the process. What happens in such instance? Do you go in to share in the loss of the Person? You just normally take it as it happens and don't make a scene out of it.

If I'm to be the person that gave him the game I will not do anything or envy the guy but instead I will be very mad at myself for allowing greed overshadowed my reasoning, so actually the guy that won the $7,600 has a good heart for given the guy $200 since there was no agreement that after winning he will return some percentage to the guy, well at least the $200 he got should be able to cover for his staking money, though I have seen a situation were this similar case resulted to a big conflicts between two gambling friends, where a gambler brought a certain booked code from someone and gave to a friend to gamble and out of greed he decided to add some additional games to the code and it later happens that the other guy won instead of him, he became angry that they would share the money because he was the person that gave him the game, so actually a situation like this can sometimes results to serious hatred or issues.

I don't understand what's actually the "greediness"?

Two guys make a bet, one win and another one lose, both of them gamble with the same amount, I don't see any greediness at all.

However, it's obviously painful to see our friends is better than us. We, as a human, mostly are happy to help our friends, because we're in the higher position. But, if we know our friends surpass us, it's painful.

The good thing is the friend don't mind to share 200 bucks to him.

It is not always greediness that causes things like this because maybe he thought he could add more game to win. What if the games he added would had been the reason why he won like the other games were not going to give him the win, what will you call it then. There is nobody that knows how a game will end, everybody playing is just trying their luck and sometimes they can be lucky while other times they would not be very lucky. How the game ends does not depend on us but we just have to be very careful so we do not make mistakes that will make us to lose our bets instead of winning it. Next time, the gambler is going to be more cautious with the games he plays. Although ot is not greediness from my view but it will be very painful as you will be angry the other individual won and not you.

I don't consider staking more money in gambling to be greediness, if it's so then it means that anybody that gambles more than once in a day is also greedy. When you gamble more you increase your risks in the hope of a greater win and you'll accept whatever the outcome is because gambling is luck. It's said that failure is a bastard and when you stake a higher amount of money and win, you're called brave but if you lose you'll be called greedy for staking more.

The guy who gave his friend the winning ticket should not be seen as been greedy, afterall he never knew that the games that he gave his friend will all go through. It's good that the friend appreciated him with the $200, but if I were the one I should've given him more based on the fact that he didn't win anything.  Although losing is painful that is why we need to gamble with the amount that we can afford to loose.

I would feel very bad if I was the guy, but I'll feel bad for my own greed only and not for my friend's win. I love it when people succeed, so I'll accept the $200 in good faith and further my life, maybe next time I'll give him another game, play the same game and further my creativity in another one so I'll not make same mistakes again. $200 is a good tip since there was no previous agreements before issuing him the game.

Gambling is luck, his friend's luck shone that day, tomorrow might be his, so let the fun and struggle continue. No hard feelings.

For some $200 is a very large amount and for some it is a very small amount depending on their professional earning amount. I deposit $10-30 in one transfer to gamble most of the time. Because I have previously deposited a huge amount of gambling and lost the entire amount.  And one thing I understand very well is that when your luck is good you can win big amount even with very small amount but if your luck is bad then you lose everything no matter how big amount you deposit.

Gambling is a means of entertainment. Here you can enjoy gambling by predicting yourself, but you do not have the right to invest by sharing predictions with others.  But if your circle of friends asks you for advice then you can certainly give it.  But in this case also be sure first that he will not blame you for his loss.

Gambling is an unpredictable business. It requires patience and endurance, because you might not always win. The guy is generous enough to give his friend such an amount. He is a good friend and deserves to be appreciated. 

This was a very painful experience since he had the opportunity to win and lose because of his mistake. He just lost money, not his health or life, so he has to endure it. I can generally give my opinion about a game, but I don't recommend games to them. If they lose the game you gave them, you might be blamed, and I don't like the blame game. 

Yeah, it shouldn't be taken with a grudge if the bet wouldn't go as intended afterward, I agree.

I think I've heard this story somewhere here in the gambling discussion threads too. Very same story.

Anyway, If I am the guy who lost, maybe I made a mistake that ruined the ticket. If it's greed then it's my mistake, what is there to cry about? The other guy won, congratulations to him but because I wanted a bigger multiplier I tried to risk it higher by adding more. It does happen especially for sports gamblers who think they can still add something to sweeten the deal.
I bet he is now thinking of a way to win next time and I doubt he will share it again considering he already gave the first one to the other guy who won.

What code? You mean the guy gave another guy a tip but didn’t actually bet on the tip himself? That’s insane! But for the person who received the tip and won that huge amount of money, that’s something else. I don’t want to dig deeper into why it happened, but I like that the winner gave $200 to the person who lost, as that amount could still be used for gambling, and who knows, he might get back on top.

But why is the title about greediness when the winner gave $200? I’m confused. :)

It's honorable, really. And yeah, didn't see much greed there ;D

Without saying much mate, I have also created a thread that's similar to yours but the difference is just that the dude that won his gamble gave money to his friend that gave him the booking codes. However, those that gives out booking codes to their friends are indeed good friends because they want a case that whenever they win their friends should also win with them, but on the other hand it looks like it doesn't favor those that predicted the games by themselves because they all added greed to their bets.

I have experienced this many times and am always thankful that my tips helped another gambler. I'm also always thankful for the tips they gave me. I have also won on tips coming from other people, of course, and I also gave them tips. It is a cycle of sharing for gamblers.

We are responsible for all our gambling actions. We can take those tips and follow them, and we can give other tips to help them win. Just be thankful whenever you receive tips from other gamblers and also give tips to those who helped you win. It's an unwritten conduct of gamblers among themselves.

I haven't predicted a game for someone, rather I'll do it myself so nobody would be blame on my mess. But being greedy is not our control, it's someone's decision or emotional breakthrough that couldn't be overcome my any means. Once I hit that winning streak, I won't risk for more because hitting that fortune won't be easy in the next more rounds. So you better strike the iron while it's hot!

he just happened to be unlucky, so his response should be normal even though it is not easy to accept the fact that he was close to winning but because it did not happen it means it was not his luck, be grateful that his friend was willing to share and $ 200 as a thank you is a large amount because actually the winner of the bet has no obligation to share but he is generous enough so the loser should also be able to be happy with his friend's victory, unless he has a jealous nature.

I will not tell to the other guy that I loss the bet due to my own mistake of changing and act cool like I won too. Saving face is much better than ask for a pity tip from the guy who trusted your pick.

Taking the 200$ tip is such pathetic because you’re the one who introduced that pick while you are also the one who didn’t stick to it meaning you abandoned your friend for that original pick.

It's happened several times, but I don't regret it, I thought it was his luck in betting this time and unlucky for me, but something like that happened again, I advised my friend and gave him the code, but another friend gave me a code to bet, I won and he lost, I don't think it's greed, it's just luck and coincidence.

This phenomenon happened to me and my friend in lottery gambling, where I once gave the code (4405) he placed the lottery (44), (05), (440) and (4405) with a total win of almost $10k, I myself actually don't put in the numeric code, instead I placed another one (5504) of course I had to accept the defeat, but it didn't matter he also gave me some $$ tips, in essence: what we believe in doesn't win and the joking and prank code wins, that's what gambling is like, fate and destiny.

typical mistake of sports gamblers.
they enter too many events, practically creating combinations that are much more unlikely than the real value of the final odds.
nothing new. it takes years and years to learn and understand this aspect of gambling. moreover the "jackpot" wasn't lower at all....
 
for sure a nice gesture from the winner who wanted to give a tip to his friend ::)
however, I would avoid any discussion or situation relating gambling in my office...

I believe that we all know one of two persons who have been in this type of situation before. I don't think it is anything new. It happens all the time. Whether there is greed or not involve it is life and shit happens. What is important is the lesson learned. Will the person who gave the booking code do repeat this again next time with some other person? The guy who won and decided to give him a small portion of the money did it out of benevolence and not because he owed him anything. What if he had also lost, will the person who gave him the booking code reiemburse him for the money lost?

What more would the person do if not accept the $200 offered to them as a consolation for the lost game they would have won for themselves? If not, they weren't greedy to have additional odds to their bets.

In this kind of scenario, the person who gave out the betting code and lost, shouldn't expect much from the person he gave the betting code to, that wins.

Any amount given to him should be appreciated not to be wanting more because the person that won the bets gave him what he felt like for saying thank you for the odds given to him. He didn't force him to add more odds to the bets he provided for himself. Even though he didn't add more odds and wins, the guy he gave the odds to, will still show him appreciation with any amount he still feels to give. Remember, there's no mandatory amount promised to be given if the odds are rightly predicted

A thread like this was created about a week ago, and the thread went the same way as yours, the only difference, which I know is the price which you mentioned. I don’t really know if it is true that this happens to your college, but I don’t really have any problem with that. Maybe it happens to your college and the other person also. lol ;D.

What do you expect? I am sure the pain will even last more than a week. Maybe whenever they see each other the pain is going to start, or whenever the person who won gets something new for himself, his friend will start thinking he used the amount won for that, and he is definitely going to feel bad. It’s just better to not always be greedy and learn to be satisfied with what you have.

The person who loses won’t have choice but to accept the money, but to me, the amount is really too small. If I am the winner, then I won’t be giving the person who gave me the code anything less than $1k. How are you going to win $7,600, and what you can give is just $200, and you know that he loses his own bet.

So far and as long as I have been involved in gambling I think I have never given any predictions to my friends to be used as choices, but what is certain is that if a scenario like the one you described happens then maybe it is very possible for someone to feel upset when it turns out that the choice given to their friend is a choice that can bring their friend to victory while you lose.

But I think if we return to the concept of gambling and all the abilities that must be possessed by a gambler such as responsibility then in my opinion disappointment, annoyance or emotion should not occur in a gambler who experiences defeat where he should understand and realize that it means his friend is much luckier than him, and the situation is not too bad because in that case a friend is still willing to give some of his winnings to the friend who gave the prediction even though the amount is not too large.

I checked the link you drop yesterday but was not opening and other people said this thread has been created by someone and I tried to locate the thread but no way. Please can you send me the link of the similar thread for me to confirm the content of the two threads. I created this this one because I didn't see another of it's kind but if they are of the same then I will lock this but if they are of different content then let's discuss on them.

This is something that has happened to a lot of gamblers, although I agree to the fact that it's greedy move because that potential win was enough but sometimes that's not how some people think, when they combine such an amount of games they don't even expect to win cause the chances of winning are kind of low, so they just play with low expectations forgetting that anything can happen. I wouldn't really blame the guy that added more games it's human nature to do that, the two factors of his loss were greed and doubt

Here's the link https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5505763.0

But I don't know the other one.

But there's no agreement that we need to stick with our bet, we can give our pick, but at the end we or they can change the pick whatever we wants.

I don't think it's good to act cool to safe your face, I mean we all made mistake and this mistake happen with our friends, not something important that we make mistake in front of people. If we make mistake in front of people then act cool isn't wrong.

Well, that's how life is in gambling; no one knows when we'll win because the players' winnings often depend on luck. The giver is lucky, and the one given is lucky. The good thing about the winner is that he returned the gratitude for what was done to him with 200 dollars because he won.

At least he knows how to appreciate and repay the debt of gratitude to the person who helped him, so the giver who lost should still win because the help he gave was returned because the $200  was a lot.

This whole story of human nature with the betting rules and the $200 payout is fantastic.

Sharing those codes first of all. That either is a wise or a daring action. It exhibits a certain confidence - perhaps even overconfidence. It's like saying, "I'll share the riches; I have the winning ticket and I'm quite sure of it." To be honest, though, the chances don't change just because you passed on the information. For all those engaged, it is the same game with identical risk.

Right now, the guy who lost He is experiencing the burn; this is reasonable. Cognitive dissonance is the phenomena whereby your brain says one thing: "I should have won!": while reality says another: "You lost, buddy". Though it's difficult, everyone of us has to learn: gambling is a gamble. You win occasionally; you lose other times. Period

OP don’t mention about the exact odds and bet amount of the colleague who share bets. That 7600$ probably due to the high bet amount place on the pick given. The story is incomplete that makes it hard to judge whether it’s really greed or not since we don’t know the odds of the specific pick.

Overconfidence is the other side I’m looking for since he decided to add more due to his confidence that he will win the pick and because he is greedy. Sports betting is a skill based gambling game which means some gambler is always prone to misjudgment on the picks they are choosing.

What I've realized with sport bets is that the more you combine games to your stake, the higher the profits you will benefit from the stakes but the more risk you are playing with the money you've staked. Sometimes it's better to play safe and separate your bets if you must stake more. I agree that being greedy when playing gamble games usually exposes the gambler to more risks yet the truth is you can hardly gamble without being greedy just that anything you do should be properly checkmaked.

The predictor of the game has no need of growing mad for the lost of his game, he should be proud that he predicted a succesdful game for his friend at least that commendation will ever remain remarkable of his behalf.

Clearly he is aware that he lost the game due to the excessive risk on his side by having additional games to increase his odd that cut off his winning.

However, if I was the predictor, I will feel proud of myself for giving that guy the won game because it is a story to be hyped about in time as the testimony is proved. Lol.

I don't see any greediness here, just some tweek that didn't work out. I'm sure even the guy never expected the game to go including the person who copied the code to gamble. They are all risky thing which work out for the person and didn't work for the original gambler. What I don't understand is the first gambler who didn't win anything became pain, if the second guy has stake the game with $10 dollar, I'm not sure the outcome will be $7k+, he risked his money and it worth it.

The lesson learn from this is that whenever a game is share to your or you want to share a game to people, make sure you play it too, even though you have to use amount you can afford to lose before you make any further edit on such games, if you feel like removing or adding any games later. Just make sure you out money on the original one and try as much to go through them incase of any minor mistakes others might not see on time.

Expect, unexpecting to happen in gambling; it has happened to me several times, and I have no regret because this is gambling; it could go either way with every bet you place. I also experienced give a tip to bet, and the one who gave losses by not following his bets.

The most important is to be generous to the one who gave you an opportunity to win; the guy did the right thing by giving him a tip. I did the same thing; gambling has a lot of uncertainties, and you never know what you will end in every session.

I saw the other thread that is similar to this one also sometime back but I can't remember anymore I will do a manual reading to fine it out and share with you, although the two threads are similar but not the same, since this is just a story and not some form of research results or articles that could be tied to just one source, so as long as the contents a d the story is not the same, I believe we can go on with this thread without any issues.
Back to the discussion, I believe the guy that lost out in the bet will be in a very good position to tell why he did add up more games to his own selections, sometimes it could be greed but most time, he just might have just run out of luck on that day, but when it comes to games selection, I always advice people not to add or change their games at the point of bets, that because at that point, they is no much time to do the right analysis of the game's that are about to be added a d that way you just rush to pick the one that the odds suit you which eventually is and will not be the best choice for a gambler .