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Title: Bann evading
Post by: Alpha9omega00@gmail.com on August 22, 2024, 08:24:23 PM
Honestly not missing out on much not being here, but still yall changed your own rules.

Yall gave me an option to pay bitcoin for the bann to be lifted, but some half a year later when I actually gave into the conditions it was no longer there.

Reason for bann spam, weak reason honestly  as well.


Title: Re: Bann evading
Post by: Cantsay on August 22, 2024, 08:47:50 PM

Yall gave me an option to pay bitcoin for the bann to be lifted, but some half a year later when I actually gave into the conditions it was no longer there.

Reason for bann spam, weak reason honestly  as well.

The forum has never had an option were users can pay a certain amount of bitcoin for their ban to be lifted the only thing I know that one can pay bitcoin for, is either to get a copper membership or to lift evil IP during registration to allow them post (I’ve forgotten what it’s called) not a spam or plagiarism type of ban.

What year did they give you this option?


Title: Re: Bann evading
Post by: Alpha9omega00@gmail.com on August 22, 2024, 09:41:07 PM

Yall gave me an option to pay bitcoin for the bann to be lifted, but some half a year later when I actually gave into the conditions it was no longer there.

Reason for bann spam, weak reason honestly  as well.

The forum has never had an option were users can pay a certain amount of bitcoin for their ban to be lifted the only thing I know that one can pay bitcoin for, is either to get a copper membership or to lift evil IP during registration to allow them post (I’ve forgotten what it’s called) not a spam or plagiarism type of ban.

What year did they give you this option?

I know what I saw,
don't remember exactly what it said, but it said that if this amount was paid you can use your account again.

Didn't bother paying because money was scarce and the loss of the account and this forum wasn't scary.

2022 maybe I dunno


Title: Re: Bann evading
Post by: Pokapoka124 on August 22, 2024, 10:01:08 PM
You cannot pay to be unbanned. If people could do that, there would not be so many ban appeal threads in Meta. It is obvious that you do not care about the forum rules on ban evasion and it is very possible you created an alt a account and was asked to pay for evil fees. I think that is what you are referring to.

Only abused IP ranges have to pay a fee. The fee is an anti-abuse measure, and it is not meant to be (and isn't) much of a source of revenue.

If any very-veteran members want to volunteer, I can give you the ability to whitelist users. (All Staff can already whitelist users, as well.) Perhaps then someone could create a topic like "List of email addresses for people who can whitelist you for free", which I could link-to on the evil fee page. However, these IPs have evil for a reason. If it was sufficient for them to just solve a captcha or something, I'd have them do that. Before whitelisting someone, you have to do something to be pretty sure that they're not evading a ban and just going to get banned again. You may get the impression from complaints on the forum that everyone hits the fee and it's never warranted, but this is selection bias: the fee is more rare, and the vast majority of accounts that hit it should not be whitelisted.


Title: Re: Bann evading
Post by: SamReomo on August 22, 2024, 10:25:23 PM
If you want your account to get un-banned then you should post an application on Meta board, you may get un-banned if your mistake wasn't severe as the forum has given second chances to some members who were banned. But, if you think that you'll get un-banned by paying some amount to someone then forget about getting unbanned.

The proper way is to use this account to post your application at Meta board and wait sometime, if you had done minor mistakes then there's chance of your account getting un-banned, but if you keep positing from this account on other boards or topics then you're literally ban evading.


Title: Re: Bann evading
Post by: examplens on August 22, 2024, 10:48:07 PM
This i_am_viral (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=193160) is OP's previous account. There is no reason to ask for the unbanning of the old account. All he did before was begging for a loan, spamming via PM and offering some dubious schemes on FB.


Title: Re: Bann evading
Post by: DireWolfM14 on August 22, 2024, 10:55:30 PM
I know what I saw,

No, you don't.  You're an incomprehensible fool, and incomprehensible fools have a hard time comprehending simple things.

The only ban that can be lifted by paying (a very small fee) is the "evil ip" ban.  It's only applicable to new accounts that register using tor or vpn, and it's intended to prevent spammers and scammers from creating multiple accounts.  Every once in a while it may flag an account that registered through an IP from a location that's notoriously used by previously banned accounts.

Once you get banned on this forum you're banned for life, and so are all your alt accounts.  There's no way to pay to lift that ban.

I did this back in 2015 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1215937.0), but I wanted to update it. I used exactly the same mapping code as last time.

When someone is banned, their IP and some of their neighboring IPs receive evil points. Here I've created a map of the IPv4 Internet according to evil points. Currently, IPv6 is mapped into the 240.0.0/4 range, which is the large square taking up the top-right sixteenth of the chart. (I'm not sure yet whether IPv6 is actually disproportionately evil, or if I'm just cramming too many people into that address-space. Probably the latter is at least something of a factor, since 9% of traffic is IPv6 but 6% of this address-space is IPv6.)

Here's the image (zoom in):
https://bitcointalk.org/banmap201805.png

For comparison, here's the one from 2015:
https://bitcointalk.org/banmap201510.png

Each pixel is a /24 address block (ie. each pixel represents 256 IP addresses). The colors are:
█ Zero or nearly zero evil
█ A small amount of evil
█ More
█ More
█ At this point you actually have to pay if you register an account in this block
█ More
█ More
█ More
█ Pretty high
█ A ton of evil, more than anyone is likely to pay

This is per block, so a single IP address could have an evil score requiring payment while its block still shows up as black here. A colored pixel indicates the evil score of a typical IP in that block.

Addresses are laid out in the standard way. So you can for example cross-reference with these maps: https://ant.isi.edu/address/

A /24 should almost never uniquely identify someone, but to be safe I randomly added, removed, and modified some of this data for plausible deniability.


Title: Re: Bann evading
Post by: uchegod-21 on August 22, 2024, 11:44:53 PM
Op, the worse thing that will happen to you in this forum is being banned.
This is because any other accounts belonging to you once discovered will be banned.
It is best to appeal your ban if you feel you have good chances of being unbanned.
But from the witnesses again you above, it seems you have nothing to add to the forum than spamming people's PM.
Please, don't bother creating more accounts because if you do, you'll be banned again even after paying for the evil fee which you mistook for lifting of ban.


Title: Re: Bann evading
Post by: Alpha9omega00@gmail.com on August 23, 2024, 12:00:34 AM
This i_am_viral (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=193160) is OP's previous account. There is no reason to ask for the unbanning of the old account. All he did before was begging for a loan, spamming via PM and offering some dubious schemes on FB.


Dubious schemes?

I had 8000 trades on localbitcoins before advancing over to those schemes.

If my business don't work than business is fake.

The lasts post on that user still true



Op, the worse thing that will happen to you in this forum is being banned.
This is because any other accounts belonging to you once discovered will be banned.
It is best to appeal your ban if you feel you have good chances of being unbanned.
But from the witnesses again you above, it seems you have nothing to add to the forum than spamming people's PM.
Please, don't bother creating more accounts because if you do, you'll be banned again even after paying for the evil fee which you mistook for lifting of ban.

I stand out so much that can't hide my identity even for a week with a new account.

I can however use this forum even if it means making one post per account.





Title: Re: Bann evading
Post by: Cantsay on August 23, 2024, 06:09:06 AM

I can however use this forum even if it means making one post per account.


Of what use is it?

It’s better to just let go than to keep going through the stress of creating an account and then having it ban again, that’s something someone who doesn’t have anything important to do in real life would do.


Title: Re: Bann evading
Post by: Alpha9omega00@gmail.com on August 23, 2024, 08:45:18 AM

I can however use this forum even if it means making one post per account.


Of what use is it?

It’s better to just let go than to keep going through the stress of creating an account and then having it ban again, that’s something someone who doesn’t have anything important to do in real life would do.

Social platforms used to be for forming groups and tribes, now they are all video hosting platforms.

Ain't nobody can create an account and not get banned , the more posts and investments you have the more it's going to hurt.

Talking about stress it's in fact the opposite,

You get banned you cry, I get banned nuttin happens


Title: Re: Bann evading
Post by: Pmalek on August 27, 2024, 01:50:33 PM
Dubious schemes?

I had 8000 trades on localbitcoins before advancing over to those schemes.

If my business don't work than business is fake.
If your past and current business endeavors are/were so successful, then why do you need to request non-collateral loans on Bitcointalk? With 8000 completed trades on LocalBitcoins, and whatever else you do, there should be enough money without others having to lend it to you. Maybe I am wrong, but it doesn't look like success to me.


Title: Re: Bann evading
Post by: Alpha9omega00@gmail.com on August 27, 2024, 09:44:27 PM
Dubious schemes?

I had 8000 trades on localbitcoins before advancing over to those schemes.

If my business don't work than business is fake.
If your past and current business endeavors are/were so successful, then why do you need to request non-collateral loans on Bitcointalk? With 8000 completed trades on LocalBitcoins, and whatever else you do, there should be enough money without others having to lend it to you. Maybe I am wrong, but it doesn't look like success to me.

It was successful for 8 entire years,
I held on to the rising of bitcoin for 8 years.

How is that not successful? Of course it is, I didn't have to work for 8 years.

However I'm some 33 years old now and needless to say the economy is not what I thought it to be prior.

When I advanced over to perceived high status jobs instead of not working it started to look more and more political and less and less business activities for earning and keeping money.

Sabotage, no free will,theft are the most common reasons why a business skill maxxed person like me would ask for a small loan.

I can't go around blaming a single person like, oh he did that, he stole that from me.

Things like Facebook denying human connection, making any kind of sales impossible or things like coinbase using private keys to access my crypto.

It was the whole of society, millions if people ganging up on me for the reason why I ended up broke


Title: Re: Bann evading
Post by: DireWolfM14 on August 27, 2024, 10:11:53 PM
I can't go around blaming a single person... It was the whole of society, millions if people ganging up on me

https://i.imgflip.com/91lpcu.jpg (https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=b9a0ab85e5fabe6e&sca_upv=1&rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS1078US1078&sxsrf=ADLYWIJquACqa-cT_bhL7yOLTV_APnUqxw:1724796325687&q=society+meme+repo+man&tbm=vid&source=lnms&fbs=AEQNm0AbzhUJjXv6jRup8eVc0BvPyH5PazCaW205cG-Bd0in0dvSnU368ct8hcGzY9zRCgahXUvXYtux5SPCz-VD8JjCRRQ8LRqTDdEUYpRLpCO7i4Abpfgr5RKfHAgc3Zq8pbKkp0mi68K3CXDFL7KsrYadrVQgVTdiihKp3Ia169rEPCwfPwJXLr9DBt3ZwxM0XlbirQsyiZwWgE0_ock6dT6lmfSWVA&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiUurWCl5aIAxWRHjQIHbLKNdQQ0pQJegQIEBAB&biw=1861&bih=955&dpr=1#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:640680f3,vid:MKIaS0lh-uo,st:0)


Title: Re: Bann evading
Post by: Pmalek on August 28, 2024, 07:04:35 AM
Things like Facebook denying human connection, making any kind of sales impossible or things like coinbase using private keys to access my crypto.

It was the whole of society, millions if people ganging up on me for the reason why I ended up broke
I am sorry I asked the question. Still, it gave me some insights into what seems like a very confused mind. According to you, some of the reasons why you are financially broke is because of the existence of centralized exchanges, a hard time selling goods and services over Facebook, and because millions of people wanted you gone... I am out.


Title: Re: Bann evading
Post by: ABCbits on August 28, 2024, 10:24:05 AM
I had 8000 trades on localbitcoins before advancing over to those schemes.

or things like coinbase using private keys to access my crypto.

You claim you had 8000 trades on LocalBitcoins, but you never think about not using 3rd party to store your Bitcoin? Have you never heard someone mentioning "Not your keys, not your Bitcoin" or "Don't trust, verify"?


Title: Re: Bann evading
Post by: Alpha9omega00@gmail.com on August 29, 2024, 03:40:47 PM
I had 8000 trades on localbitcoins before advancing over to those schemes.

or things like coinbase using private keys to access my crypto.

You claim you had 8000 trades on LocalBitcoins, but you never think about not using 3rd party to store your Bitcoin? Have you never heard someone mentioning "Not your keys, not your Bitcoin" or "Don't trust, verify"?

reality is a hologram, things have reached points of crypto going to the wrong destinations althought everything was done correctly, as the case with coinbase,

not only did an error happen which i didnt make, but they also inficted 2 years psyhological torture after that, it ended up being 98% of my networth so i kept going asking for it back which was already in their possesion and they lied each time until disabling my login entirely and cutting contact.

this isnt the only case either 3 or 4 more transactions ended up in the wrong destination although everything was done correctly.

this hologram can interfere can take anybodies money at any given time.

why would such extreme measures take place in my life to begin with ?

who are the people who own the internet? who all at the same time advertised covid without any resistance from any social media platform ?

its clear that the order came from one source and one point of control to control the brains and information of billions of people.

how can i build a social media competitor when it was all owned by one entity ? not only a competitor but a business that is superior to all of them, overriding them all at the same time.

cause the white house made the coronavirus because of what i know and did and what i intended to further.

just actaul simple business, the key takeaway is that business is a fraud, so letting me do business is a disaster.

real business is really destructive for the people who own the internet


i aint getting 10 million dollar serias a.b and c fundraisers like the tech tycoons for people who came straight out of harward and oxford.
i only need a 1000$ to beat their 100 million fundings in tech businesses.


Title: Re: Bann evading
Post by: Alpha9omega00@gmail.com on August 29, 2024, 06:13:45 PM
i know yall gonna bann me to, one does not have to be guilty of anything for that to happen like i wasnt to begin with, yall started lying and giving false negative feedback with the previous account and this one to as far i  can tell this account is worthless all others that i make here to.

The only way to really use the internet is a new account for anything and everything.


Title: Re: Bann evading
Post by: examplens on August 29, 2024, 08:03:31 PM
i know yall gonna bann me to, one does not have to be guilty of anything for that to happen like i wasnt to begin with, yall started lying and giving false negative feedback with the previous account and this one to as far i  can tell this account is worthless all others that i make here to.

The only way to really use the internet is a new account for anything and everything.
In order for you to succeed, you have to change your behaviour quite a bit. All negative feedback and bans you have on all accounts refer to you as a person. You can create as many new accounts as you want, but the same behaviour will cause the same reaction from the community.
Nobody cares about your successful years on other platforms if you behave like this here.


Title: Re: Bann evading
Post by: Alpha9omega00@gmail.com on August 29, 2024, 09:00:33 PM
i know yall gonna bann me to, one does not have to be guilty of anything for that to happen like i wasnt to begin with, yall started lying and giving false negative feedback with the previous account and this one to as far i  can tell this account is worthless all others that i make here to.

The only way to really use the internet is a new account for anything and everything.
In order for you to succeed, you have to change your behaviour quite a bit. All negative feedback and bans you have on all accounts refer to you as a person. You can create as many new accounts as you want, but the same behaviour will cause the same reaction from the community.
Nobody cares about your successful years on other platforms if you behave like this here.


If I was to predict the future, I would predict that anons will cancel communities.

Facebook , reddit and all others are absolutely terrible.

They keep shrinking in size and unity.

I'm glad to not use the internet at all anymore, I use it in a way that all accounts are disposable.

It was years of bann, oppression, bann, oppression, bann, oppression.

Couldn't even make a single exception

I should make my own social media platform and crush the existing ones with it because it is designed and capable of doing so but also the platforms that oppressed me deserve the destruction for the very deeds they did.

I am not a believer in karma and justice but that would be karma and justice




Title: Re: Bann evading
Post by: Stalker22 on August 29, 2024, 09:49:02 PM
~
My previous username was I am viral,

I remember you from a few years ago. Youre the idiot who claimed to take down FB, right? Whats up with that? Any progress?  ;D

Well, it seems some things never change... Youre still an idiot. Seek professional help!


Title: Re: Bann evading
Post by: Alpha9omega00@gmail.com on August 29, 2024, 09:55:19 PM
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My previous username was I am viral,

I remember you from a few years ago. Youre the idiot who claimed to take down FB, right? Whats up with that? Any progress?  ;D

Well, it seems some things never change... Youre still an idiot. Seek professional help!


This is an interesting story because Facebook is the hardest opponent I ever faced,

it's not that I ever stopped combating Facebook.

It's that Facebook started to have allies like Coinbase,

and coinbase alone could deal me hits because that again is a multi billion dollar business with thousands of employees.

And just recently an even weaker business like coinpoker started blowing hits on me.

My opponents just got weaker and weaker and Facebook got out of my sight.

It all happened so naturally.

Who would brag about having to combat weaker and weaker opponents ?

Nobody right


Title: Re: Bann evading
Post by: ABCbits on August 30, 2024, 09:49:15 AM
You claim you had 8000 trades on LocalBitcoins, but you never think about not using 3rd party to store your Bitcoin? Have you never heard someone mentioning "Not your keys, not your Bitcoin" or "Don't trust, verify"?
reality is a hologram, things have reached points of crypto going to the wrong destinations althought everything was done correctly, as the case with coinbase,

not only did an error happen which i didnt make, but they also inficted 2 years psyhological torture after that, it ended up being 98% of my networth so i kept going asking for it back which was already in their possesion and they lied each time until disabling my login entirely and cutting contact.
--snip--

You have talent to turn short statement "I used to to blindly trust Coinbase" into wall of text. While we can't verify your past experience with Coinbase, this is reason why people keep stating "Not your keys, not your Bitcoin" which means you shouldn't trust placing "your" Bitcoin to 3rd party such as Coinbase.

i know yall gonna bann me to, one does not have to be guilty of anything for that to happen like i wasnt to begin with, yall started lying and giving false negative feedback with the previous account and this one to as far i  can tell this account is worthless all others that i make here to.

The only way to really use the internet is a new account for anything and everything.

If yall (as in everyone) have power to ban you, you would be banned few months ago.


Title: Re: Bann evading
Post by: Alpha9omega00@gmail.com on August 30, 2024, 10:47:45 AM
You claim you had 8000 trades on LocalBitcoins, but you never think about not using 3rd party to store your Bitcoin? Have you never heard someone mentioning "Not your keys, not your Bitcoin" or "Don't trust, verify"?
reality is a hologram, things have reached points of crypto going to the wrong destinations althought everything was done correctly, as the case with coinbase,

not only did an error happen which i didnt make, but they also inficted 2 years psyhological torture after that, it ended up being 98% of my networth so i kept going asking for it back which was already in their possesion and they lied each time until disabling my login entirely and cutting contact.
--snip--

You have talent to turn short statement "I used to to blindly trust Coinbase" into wall of text. While we can't verify your past experience with Coinbase, this is reason why people keep stating "Not your keys, not your Bitcoin" which means you shouldn't trust placing "your" Bitcoin to 3rd party such as Coinbase.

i know yall gonna bann me to, one does not have to be guilty of anything for that to happen like i wasnt to begin with, yall started lying and giving false negative feedback with the previous account and this one to as far i  can tell this account is worthless all others that i make here to.

The only way to really use the internet is a new account for anything and everything.

If yall (as in everyone) have power to ban you, you would be banned few months ago.

You lack the the economic knowledge to understand that crypto has to be turned into fiat in our day and age ?

Thats where trusting something like coinbase becomes a non option.

I'm not banned because it doesn't hurt me , if it would hurt it me I would be banned indeed.


Title: Re: Bann evading
Post by: Smartvirus on August 30, 2024, 07:19:35 PM
Yall gave me an option to pay bitcoin for the bann to be lifted, but some half a year later when I actually gave into the conditions it was no longer there.

Reason for bann spam, weak reason honestly  as well.
I wasn’t part of such conditioning and I don’t think the forum have got room for pay Bitcoin and have your ban lifted. Issues that usually take these patterns are obvious cases of scams from casinos and the bookies. A few individual cases maybe but, not in the case of spam.
You would pay for proxy ban on IPs for sure or try to get white listed.


Well, it might be weak but, you’re not permanently banned for spamming, not without at least 3warnings which usually comes as temporal bans. If you really didn’t heed any of those in the event that you actually got warned, then there isn’t any certainty that your likely going to behave.


Title: Re: Bann evading
Post by: Stalker22 on August 30, 2024, 08:24:45 PM
You lack the the economic knowledge to understand that crypto has to be turned into fiat in our day and age ?

OK, I'll take that bait. Why? Why do you think that crypto has to be turned into fiat in order to be useful? What is the use of fiat money?

Thats where trusting something like coinbase becomes a non option.

Not true. Bitcoin was conceived as a P2P electronic money system, first and foremost.


Title: Re: Bann evading
Post by: ABCbits on August 31, 2024, 08:47:26 AM
--snip--
You lack the the economic knowledge to understand that crypto has to be turned into fiat in our day and age ?

Thats where trusting something like coinbase becomes a non option.
--snip--

I don't have economic degree. But i'm aware of these option,
1. You could store all Bitcoin on self-custodial wallet.
2. You could just send necessary amount of Bitcoin you wish convert to fiat.
3. Depending on where you live or fiat currency you use, you could avoid CEX (centralized exchange). Other reader may want to visit https://kycnot.me/ (https://kycnot.me/) to see list of P2P (peer to peer), DEX (decentralized exchange) and no/optional-KYC exchange.
4. There are some places which accept Bitcoin and some other cryptocurrency as payment options. Other reader could search "who accepts bitcoin" or "list of place that accept bitcoin" on Google Search to find such places.
5. Idiom "Don't Put All Your Eggs in One Basket". In this case, it means don't put all of your asset/money in one places (Coinbase).