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I don't know about any other person but personally, I've come to discover that winnings that are unexpected excites the most than the winnings that are expected, regardless of the amount of money involved.

Recently, I placed a bet on sports match, and somehow, I was very certain I was going to win it, the match started and at the end, I won my bet, odd was 1.4, not going to mention the amount I used for bet, but I won a good sum, i wasn't all that excited because it's a winning I had expected, in fact, I would have been more surprised if I hadn't won.

Then I remembered that some time ago, I was playing plinko with a random balance that was remaining on my account, I wasn't expecting any winnings, I just wanted to have fun and empty my balance, I set the risk level to "high" and was betting $0.1 on each ball that came down, I can't tell how many rounds I've played but soon enough, my account balance that was below $5 was already $40+, this money was not near the amount i won from sports betting but I was overly excited, possibly because I never really expected to win this much.

This is why I've come to this conclusion that winnings that are unexpected are more exciting than winning that have been predetermined/expected.

Feel free to comment your thoughts on this, or perhaps you have an experience to share, please feel free.

To me winning is winning be it expected and unexpected once the winning comes you feels so supper professional in your mind. But sometimes when you expect and never wins it almost gives someone heart break that is why when playing gambling you don't have to expect winning or even expect lose, just be at the normal balance that any is possible and likely to happened. As most people may have when unexpected winnings comes it gives them that Joy and happiness towards that random winning for that they would likely spent it back to the casino because would feels that there another Wining coming right beside after the previous winning.

Expected or unexpected, what that excites you is the amount of money that you won. The higher the amount of money that you won, the greater would be your excitement about it.

If you bet on 1.4 odds, the chance to win is high. If you bet on 50 odds, the chance to win is low. You know about the chances of winning 1.4 or 50 odds. You may not be expecting to win 50 odds but if you win, you will have more money and have more excitement about it.

Well, I agree with you that expecting a win which turn out to be a loss at that end of the day can give person a heart attack, or almost, this is something I have personally experienced in the past when for the very first time, I used around $3000 ($2,800) precisely to bet on a sport game I was very certain that my choice team would win, I've discussed about this on this forum on multiple occasions.

At the end of the match, my choice team lost and my $2,800 was gone, it was like I was dreaming, I fainted and was rushed to the hospital, spent 3 days there, and It took me over a year to recover from the shock of that loss.

So, indeed, expecting to win a bet and ending up not winning can be very heart breaking, but it's depends on the amount of money one used for betting on the game, but on the other hand still, this thread is not about the loses, but winning, lets look at the winning side of gambling, and forget about the loses for now.

Isnt every serious bet an expected bet, as in we expect to win, thats why we do a bit of
research to try an make an informed wager. At least thats what most gamblers do.

Unexpected wins I would account for those which are placed by non gamblers,
those bets placed for example at horse racing festivals by people who visit for
the social outing rather than the sport and who put a wager on a horse because
they like the name, when that horse wins at 50:1 its pure excitement because
the $2 bet is now an unexpected $100.

I have never had an expected win because no matter how sure it is you will always be skeptical about it, that's what makes it gambling. I Ve had some unexpected wins and I must say that they gave me a lot of excitement, winning a game you were unsure about can make any gambler overjoyed. I placed a bet of 200 odds with less than a dollar just for fun, the options I picked were very risky and I wasn't expecting anything from it at all but later on I checked it out and It was successful. Gambling is indeed filled with uncertain outcomes

What is expected win in your opinion? When you place a bet with 1.01 odd ? :D We have a great example (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5435885.1180) how people fail with such bet. Or a bet that you place when there is no time left in a game and one team is totally dominating? Well such bets won make be really excited, that is for sure. But I dont know how come unexpected wins not be exiting in general. You dont expect to win, then boom and your pockets are full of money. How come someone not be happy about it and compared that feeling with expected win?

What you hope for is a big win by getting more money than the bet you paid, especially as an unexpected win will be even more exciting.

Every bet is taken seriously, even if the win is unexpected, for example, you want to win half but the final result makes you win 50, a bigger win with more payout, I think everyone wants to win in their bets, don't want to lose, win slightly and it's unexpected, it's a joy for everyone . in a match that was not expected to win completely but the final result was unexpected, it was very classy.

You know that's why it's very important to bet and gamble with the amount we can afford to lose otherwise the shock could be something massive reacting on the opposite side of us, however, winning is something that gives everyone players or gambler the Joy and momentum to increase their bet size to further double their money.

Unexpected winning give you that feelings that heals the broken love for gambling, like it rekindles your passion and love to consistently gambling without losing hope.

I could also remembered back then when I just picked game on a random and stake with whatever amount that just got into my mind because I felt that I am not gonna win the bet and I never also bother to have followed the match as well because I felt I already lose the match.

But surprisedly when I login to my account 5 days past I saw my balance very pleasing and pleasant I then track the history I noticed it was the last game I bet on gave me that winning I was like is this real? Yes that is real my dear.

I will go with winning unexpected, obviously, if you don't see your self winning and totally give up, then suddenly you win big, you feel energetic and very exciting. One example for me is that when I'm playing slots and I was down to my last money and I accepted the faith that I'm going to lose everything and just wanted to play before going to home. But luckily the slot games that I played give me a bonus round and it was a great win that I was able to win all back the money that I've lost already.

So I'm very happy to win unexpectedly when in my mind I might have regrets on playing on land base casinos and thinking that I should have stayed at home and didn't go home and risk that money.

I can relate clearly of what you are talking about but though let it be known that there is no assured games to believe it is a MUST WINNING. In gambling winning games are even comes from the unexpected and that is why it is tagged a game of luck.

But then there are certain games that may have us the phases of potential winning and when we finally wins, it is like already being expected and not really like we are trying our luck if we may win.
When the winning finally comes, it could be emotionally controlled but when we play at that point of hopelessly especially with our last funds or lack of times to analyze the games before playing, the excitements is usually loud and more appreciated because it was not expected.

I think only novices in the filed could expect winning every time they bet. Such expectations  are stiffen with time, thus, the mature gamblers are  getting used to both winnings and losings. The first ones excite  them as always ^{(though to a lesser extent)} while the bad breaks  define their spirit making them hard to influence by the bad strikes. All of this is gained  from both my own experience and backgrounds  of my friends.

Yes, I also agree with you OP that unexpected wins are much more exciting than expected wins, I understand that usually winning is something that gamblers always expect when they run a session, but usually there are times when we really feel that winning is very far from us like what I once experienced where I bet with a very small amount of capital and did not put any hope, especially winning.

I thought that in the end defeat was the definite answer at that time, but it turned out that suddenly the round became very good when I played a type of casino game that not long after that I managed to achieve a fairly large win which if I'm not mistaken was 300% of the capital and of course that was a very exciting win.

Unexpected wins excites the most, expected wins make me to stay.

I can't stay too long in games that can surprise me because I have zero control over the games, there's no difference for someone who have gamble for one week and one year.

While expected wins can make me to stay the game for long, I can pick which one that will win based on experience, knowledge and analysis, even I didn't earn as much as playing in slots, but it make me happy to see I'm picking the right one.

Months ago, there was a thread created here concerning a gambler that died out of over excitement after realising that he has won a huge sum of money that he have not earned in his entire life, but won it in one day from his bet. Such winning was unexpected, that's why it took his life, some unexpected winning comes with disaster. Personally for me, there's no kind of winning that doesn't excite me, whether it's expected or unexpected, I usually feel so excited but what actually excites me more is if I had won a huge amount of money and not just some peanuts.

 The both wins excite me but I have more joy when the game I least expected to win from eventually plays because you've removed your mind from it and then you go back to check something else and discover your online account amount has increased. I remember when such an occurrence happened. It was supposed to come out a winning of $30 since I staked it $1but the last event of 2.5 was playing 2-0 at 90+ minutes so I just took my mind off it only to check my account the next morning and find that the game played. I was so happy being that I was moody the night before thinking it's just that option that would deprive me of the money.

Well an expected win doesn't really sound exciting, does it? I mean, you only get a self verification of choosing the right side and often enough fee like "damn, I should have bet more. It was so obvious they would win."

Unexpected wins don't really happen to at least because if I do I rarely bet on underdogs. And also I wouldn't bet on a side where I wouldn't be convinced they have more then an average chance to win the match.
So the only unexpected wins, at least for me, are miracle comebacks. Like when my basketball team is down 15 points going in the final quarter and then pull off something like a 27:9 quarter  ;D . That of course is always a great feeling but unfortunately this happens also most never for me, only the opposite does, losing a big final quarter lead and throw away the win.  :'(

I think it's both for me as well, (might be good if we have a poll?)

(a) Unexpected wins - makes gambler more excited, let's take for example in sports betting, you bet on the underdog, you watch the game and you might want to say that you shouldn't have bet on the underdog or just skip the game totally. But then out of nowhere, your underdog team win and so you are very happy to see your bet making profits.

(b) expected wins - you bet on the favorite in sport betting, you put a good to decent money. And then didn't watch the game because you know that you're going to win and the next day you just collect your winnings. I have this cases before, betting on minimum $100 per single match and then just go to sleep because I'm very positive to win.

Every win is exciting when you're gambling because loses occurs more due to the house edge over the gamblers so when you win you'll feel triumphant. If you're however compering expected wins and unexpected wins, I strongly believe that unexpected wins gives far more excitement. In expected wins you must've put a lot of energy into analyzing the games and when it happens you'll feel more of fulfilment than super excited. But when you talk about unexpected wins it's when you randomly pick matches and you didn't do any analyzing or you're just having fun without having much hope that you'll win. It also feels very good when you make a mistake while staking your games and you win, the excitement is always double.

I just want to win! Let it be that it's a win game for me and it excites me regardless. I would prefer talking about the opposite where I had expected a bet to play as predicted but it didn't go my way. I get pained by it because of the expectation I have placed on it but when there's no expectations whatsoever I don't feel anything.

Generally, it's not a good gambling habit to place expectation on our bets irrespective of how we feel some certainty about the odds playing because even the smallest odd still disappoints. Nothing is sure in gambling except it's a fixed match.

That's true though, there is an excitement attached to an amount won unexpectedly. I could remember some time ago I played many games hoping to win but couldn't win a single bet I decided to stake multiple games with several prediction and relaxes and said to myself that if it happens to play "so be it" and if it doesn't as well "so be it" too. I was surprised to see 2 tickets won at ago and I was excited. So definitely there is excitement in unexpected win.

But by the way, it is not advisable to put our hope on a  predicated running game, because If it happens not to play, such person may feel disappointed. It is better we always stake and remove our mind on it sothat when there is an unexpected win we become exited instead of becoming exited earlier and angry when lost later run.

maybe that's also what makes casino games more fun than sports betting where we actually expect to win from the predictions we make. but in casino games that rely on luck, there is hope to win but its arrival is really unexpected and always a surprise.

but I think all of this applies to the opposite. losing a bet that we expect to win will definitely make a bigger disappointment than losing a game of luck. you must have bet quite high with small Odds. because we are too confident with our predictions we bet quite big but when we lose, it leaves a distrust of the betting results.

Yes, that is your personal conclusion regarding the two winning scenarios that you obtained. But for other users, it may never be the same. An unexpected win is certainly exciting, but an expected win is much more exciting. The reason I'm clear about that is because basically you first do an analysis of a match before betting money, then how can you not feel excited when your analysis is correct and the win you hope for is really real.

So I can also draw a conclusion personally, an expected win is much more exciting than an unexpected win. That can make you more enthusiastic about analyzing other matches in the hope of winning them too.

Of course, because an unexpected victory is kind of surprise and can give us sense of joy or enthusiasm for the achievement, moreover with victory that we never expected before, it can also increase our confidence that at that time got luck.
It different when we can win with analysis and prediction preparation that has been made well, in conditions like this we have gained confidence and also belief to succeed in achieving victory so that if we really win then we don't get kind of surprise.
But one other thing I will say is that unexpected victories like that are very rare to get, for example in game luck it is clear that the chances cannot be seen for sure, I myself if I get victory like you get from the plinko game will definitely feel the same as you.

I'd prefer both but if limited to the two, naturally the unexpected one. But it's more of a losing match getting turned around compared to betting an underdog type of thing. It has happened to me before, similar odds between the two so the match could go either way, but the start my team started getting destroyed. Middle of the game comes around and they suddenly stage a comeback. Now those types of wins are just thrilling as hell since the game itself is an intense back-and-forth.

As for casino games, I play them so much that it doesn't faze me that much when I get an unexpected win lol. Maybe every now and then with a big bet with big odds, but usually I just go high odds and spam it with low bets.

I think that the majority of gamblers in the casino expect to win a large amount of money from their gambling, even though other gamblers whose main purpose is just fun feel the expectation that they will win.

But there are still people who expect that they will lose, or there is no certainty that they will win a large amount of money when they play gambling.

I agree with you completely. Success, in isolation, but from unexpected quarters, is indeed an exhilarating experience. Sometimes the fun and excitement experienced in a particular event would get added by the mere thrill factor in that successful venture. An unexpected win could make it seem rewarding, and that's how victory often turns into something fulfilling and memorable.

Perhaps it is an example of one's experience with the Plinko game. It is that very factor of unpredictability and surprise that can make such a power much more useful than we would imagine. Inversely, if you do get something which you expect, and it was a good thing, it carries less surprise or excitement because your mind was already set for it.

The satisfaction and reward philosophy can be attached to this concept, then. The thrill of the unexpected is maybe an important part of what makes games so much fun. Thanks for sharing thoughts and experiences-it's always nice to hear how different accomplishments impact people differently!


In most of the other instances, it is clear that the unintended pleasure and satisfaction of winning unexpectedly would be different from what gamblers would indeed expect from those predictable. You mentioned, for instance, most gamblers attended a casino or casino anticipating great wins that could bring high expectations of success, hence having their hopes dashed the moment everything did not work out as anticipated.

On the other side, there are gamblers who place their bets with a positive attitude: one either expects to lose or hopes to win big. The unexpected success may give them an especially strong kick because it goes against expectations set up at the beginning.

Such dynamics are manifested in your experiences with Plinko, where unexpected success creates more excitement than predictable sports betting. Surrounded by the surprise of a win, it turned out to be memorable and exciting because it was against your initial expectations. This links to the broader understanding that, in gambling, unintended outcomes-either in the case of wins or losses-tend to have a greater emotional impact compared to outcomes which one already expected is consistent.

You will never get excited on expected things since your excitement with that matter is so low so provably once you hit the target you know that will came  your interest to continue will fade out and you decide to quit since you already get what you want. Compare to unexpected things where every result is unknown which provably could make everything spectacular especially if there's a near miss win came since for sure that scenario will try to convince you to gamble more since you got inspired to get a win for seeing those kind of result. Also feeling to gain from unexpected things is really fulfilling since you will get satisfied with the result since you feel like you are been so lucky at the time you play.

I don't know if there's someone feel excited when they know what is the result of the action they have done, but usually entertainment part will always came from thing you didn't expect.

Ah, what are you saying my friend! I agree with you that the greatest emotion comes from unexpected things. It's like when Roma scores a goal in the last minute, that thrill that makes you jump in your seat!

:)

Unfortunately this rarely happens or it would no longer be unexpected.

In my opinion expected win will not make people getting excited because usually expected win is predictable and usually people have already know and confident they will win the bets but it could be different if people can gets the money from unexpected win because they never thought can win the money from their bets and i have one experience regarding unexpected win because several years ago i was playing dice at primedice so at that time i just try to enjoy the game by setting 40x payout but surprisingly before my balanced getting dry i was won my bets and i can gets 40x payout from my initial bets but unfortunately that luck only happened once because since then i have never been able to get the results just like i mentioned above

For me, the unexpected victory will be the most joyful because the sure victory of that which is uncertain should be joyful. I want to explain this in a sense I placed a bet on a cricket match where the cricket match will require four runs in the last over for my team to win. But the last ball was bowled out straight away so my team lost and my bet was lost but luckily the last ball was a no ball and that no ball hit four and my team won so my bet unexpectedly won and I lost my $100.  Win the bet.

I don't know how people have unexpected wins but personally I don't have unexpected win but I could decide to consider one an unexpected win but logically it's not unexpected.

when I win a bet, it's an expected win because their is no way you would have to stake some few cents and not expect a positive result even though most times it ends up in disappointment but we surely expected the win.

Regardless I would still have to admit that when I succeed in something I have already lost hope on it gives me more joy than when I have full assurance of the risk that I take then it turns out to be exactly what I expected.

gamblers who bet definitely expect to win. if you play a game like slots, how much do you expect to win? the expectations that gamblers have are different when they bet on sports betting. with fairly convincing odds as exemplified by OP, gamblers will still be happy when they win but it is according to their expectations. so it is not too surprising or gives a feeling of extraordinary joy.
but it is different when you get a big multiplier on your bet. That is a very surprising and unexpected victory. such a feeling of victory fosters extraordinary joy. and of course, it is more exciting for gamblers.

Perhaps you have a some point here but I wouldn't agree more or less your point that we do have unexpected wins in some kind of gambling but that means when we take those bets we hope we get lucky but expect to lose that's all I can relate to what you have said above and that is the only convincing reason why I can say that gamblers do of course have unexpected wins but in my opinion I feel it's always expect but in some way it could go beyond our expectations for instance one expecting to have at least 2 to 5 wins in a wager of 10 but i could consider it unexpected victory if one gets to hit 9 or 10 of 10 attempt.

The feelings are always not the same, although others can argue differently if you spend time to predict games, picking your favourite team, or whatever criteria you use in making your selection, be it low, odd, what, etc. From the time you select those games, some part of you could have already been rejoicing that the game will play based on what you predict, and if it eventually plays that way, the happiness just continues. 
 
The joy that comes with winning slot games is just different. Let's use the plinko, for example. You never expected such an amount to be won out of your $5, but you continue playing, and luck keeps on shining on you. The joy is just different.

I think that once we have won, whether expected or unexpected, it has different emotions and the value both bring is also relatively unique, although surprise is more emotional but expected brings higher satisfaction. And to be determined to choose what is more interesting, I still realize that satisfaction makes our people more comfortable because there, we realize the value of knowledge and skills, surprise has a quick fun factor but cannot be assessed deep in our people, momentary things don't last as long as satisfaction, desire and achievement are always better.

Look, you're right, emotions are different when you win unexpectedly than when you win waiting for it. But in the end what matters most is the satisfaction you feel. Satisfaction makes you feel more comfortable because you understand the value of knowledge and skills.

This is why I don't like betting too much, I prefer games of skill.

To me every win brings positive emotions, because deep down I still hope to win in every gambling session although I realize that it is impossible.

It happens that there is a little money left on my account and I make a last bet on everything to quickly finish the gambling session and do other things, but at that moment I am lucky and I win. I find it difficult to say whether this win can be called unexpected and whether it brings me more emotions than the win I am waiting for if I gamble for the sake of emotions from winning.  

Imo there’s no such thing as expected win for me in gambling since I consider my bets partly loss already. Most of my expected win especially on Blackjack always ended up on loss which is frustrating that’s why I never assume a win on my bets unless it already settled.

Answering the topic, Unexpected win always the exciting part since you have a huge money without looking forward on it. I just recently won around 800$ using a small amount of bankroll. I never thought to earn this money out of nowhere that’s why I can’t believe myself when I hit the big win.

Hitting a huge win while you are just casually playing is the most satisfying experience compared when you hit big win while you are expecting already that it will happened.

Winning that are unexpected gives excitement to us because we never expecting we can win. When we expect to win much money but the result we lose our money, that will make us sad. That makes us want to recover our lose and makes many people forget that gambling can make them win and lose without they can expect.

I have that experience before so I started not to think about the result. As long as I can spend my time and enjoy the games, that will be enough for me. I know that gambling is only for fun so I don't chase the win.

But I can prevent the lose not to become bigger because I experienced of lose for some money. Sometime when we only want to have fun in gambling, we win the games because we don't think too serious about gambling. That will be better for us because we don't mind to lose for some money we can afford to lose. So nothing to lose for us to playing gambling.

I hard a similar experience sometimes back with football bet also, when I placed the bet it was a live game and the odds was around the same odds that you mentioned, at as the game goes I bet in a team that was already leading the game with 1 goal and when I checked before I left the computer for a while when the game was like around 60 minutes, I was still winning, but , within a few seconds, I was chucked to see that the other team have equalise the goal and at that point I was left with zero Cash out available for me and I gave up on that bet and left the system.

Supprising later when I came to make some few bets, before bed, I discovered that the balance available was some what not what I left and higher, I then I went to check the history and I discovered that I ultimately won the bet, so it gave me alot of excitement even more that those games that I bet and won straight ways, so for me it depends on the mood and the way the winning are delivered that give the excitement and regardless of the game either in sport bet or in house game's, winning always comes with it unique excitements.

OP, every gambler that is placing his bet on a match is expecting to win and that was ahy he decided to gamble, and it is the same reason that makes gamblers to stake high amount of money because they feel it is a sure bet.

However, wins that you get based on let me gamble for fun and you think the house edge will win you as usual but you ended up making profit will make you feel excited because that was not the plan. This is the reason why one should gamble for fun, so that you don't expect winning annd if it turns out to be a win, you will enjoy the fun more.

Though, it's true that when we win a bet we least expected, we are likely to be very excited, but normally what excite gamblers the most is not if the winning was expected or not, but the number of odds been won that usually determine how happy a gambler will be at the moment, which is not different from your story given above.

However, looking at this case from my own personal point of view, it's obvious the reason why you weren't happy in the first instance was simply because the odds won was just mere 1.4x of the wagered amount, that is, if the betting amount was $10, then it just means amount won was $14 (i.e $4 profit), unlike in the second instance where you were able to win $40+ with just mere $.0.1, which was approximately 400x, a reasonable amount capable of making someone expected.

So in conclusion, I still stand to say that the mood was not what excited you, but it was the winning odds that did.

The most unexpected win is always the best because it’s unpredictable. Imagine something you don’t expect coming to you and being a positive thing. Wouldn’t you be happy with that? I believe everyone feels the same way, just like the other members who posted here.

But in essence, it’s always the part when you win that makes you feel alive.

that is something in our brains that make us get more hooked for unexpected inconstant rewards than for predictable ones
idk why it happens, probably something evolutionary that made us be wired like that

I agree that gambling should be done first for fun than for profit, that is for sure.

Yeah I expected winnings are so exciting that it could make you go break dancing. Although I don't bet on sport often like I do on slots, I can tell you that the feeling can be compared to the one you get when you play your regular slot and have a win and when you play slot and have a multiplier. The multiplier brings a bigger unexpected win that leaves you so happy and excited. My slot guys can confirm this.

Yes, this is what most people would be excited upon on which having these kind of situation that having that unexpected wins would really be that giving out that kind of excitement inside
but we cant really be able to deny that there are indeed moments for us to have those kind of times where we do expect something winning like hitting up a multiplier or what.
This is something that you would really be chasing up when it comes into those numbers on which this is something which isnt really that recommended yet it would kill up the essence of excitement
on the moment that you will really be having just because you are really that anticipating on something that will happen. The worst is, on the moment that you cant be able to hit up a particular win
then this is something that will really be that making you desperate and the worst you will be playing further despite of the losing condition.

Gambling should be fun and its really that normal that on the moment that you are really that playing without anticipating something or expecting something then here comes those
winning that will really be that make you happy on which of course this is the primary reason on why we do gamble in the first place on which is to have that fun that we are seeking
on the moment that we do play ourselves with gambling.

I agree with that too, unexpected winnings excites us the most or rather I should say excites me the most because the feeling that you don’t expect hits harder than the one you expect, it’s just like you earn an unexpected money and regardless of the amount won the joy is really different from the winnings you expect.

I have also experienced such feeling in the past where i was gambling and lost most of my bets and then i placed the last bet with the remaining money in my balance which was really just a small amount and because i was angry and furious i didn’t take the bet seriously and just picked some virtual games at random and left the game on after like about an hour i was surprised to see that i have won i was so happy like i never won a bet before.

The unexpected wins tend to be more satisfying since they create the feeling of surprise and sudden happiness. When something we weren’t expecting happens, there’s an accompanying euphoria with the randomness and luck. This makes an anticipated win different, as one is already prepared for the outcome and, therefore, the feeling of joy is less intensive.

In your experience, the surprise itself has more emotional value than money of any given amount. It could be that, to some extent, we tend to appreciate higher valued moments that surpass our expectations versus just being handed a win when we already knew we were going to get it.

However, it is important to remember that excitement from an unexpected win can influence our future way of betting, sometimes making us more risk-inclined to take risks that we might not have considered before. It is always good to stay vigilant and remember that sound judgment should not be clouded by momentary excitement.

I don't have an expectations in any of my win because you never can tell which you will win and the one you will never win, they are just predictions no matter how I feel about it. However, there are some bet, like multiple bets I do monitor, there are instances I do have high hope on the last games and when they win, I get excited but not as compare to the ones I just bet and never check the whole games but I get surprised when I login to casino and get congratulations on my dashboard on first opening.

There is this particular bet I won that excited me that I never expected. It was a game I copied from another punter, he just dropped the code as usual and I was even late to the game, some has has started and when I wanted to use the code, some games were removed and I just stake on it like that. Could you believe that it was the games I removed that lost and the remaining I staked all won and I won my game but the person that drop the games didn't win his bet. I just woke in the morning and saw that I won something.

The unexpected has always created great excitement in me, so I like to take high risks with small stakes. Sometimes I used to do this in sports competitions, I like that feeling of surprise when I win unexpectedly.

Or I try it in some games, there is a low probability, for example 5% 10% chance of winning and you win, I usually rarely participate in games where you can win with these odds, so if I get such a win, it is very fun. That's why I try my luck sometimes.

Sure, unexpected wins excites more. There are bets which you will place, you will never believe you will win that kind of bet, so getting a win will be so exciting even if the win is not so much. If I am expecting a win and things end up going my way, then I am not always so happy because I already expected it, but an unexpected win excites me more.

Some gamblers know the risk they are about to take is so high, and they know the chances of them winning are just low, but they will decide to try their luck. When gamblers place bets on games like this, they do it with just little amounts of money because they know the chances of them winning are low. Some people know it will be difficult to win some bet, but they will still place it.

I agree with you that unexpected amounts of money can bring greater happiness especially when the amount is larger than the expected amount, that's how this thinking works.

Often we think that targeting a winning amount in a bonus round, or in a luck-based game where it's anyone's guess how much we might be able to win on a given bet, can really feel overwhelming to get a win like that.

Of course anything coming as a surprise being unexpected should be more exciting to us than we when we already have plan and focus about a particular game or bet to come, what we should consider is that, what if it does not come as expected, what should we do, but from the way i personally do gambles, i expect that every bet i place is a chance on 50 by 50 which means i can lose and i can also win as the case maybe, but my focus is more on loosing since that is what we often encounter when gambling, so that when i win, it turns a surprise to me.

In my personal case, I think unexpected wins are more exciting than expected ones or even "planned" ones. Though, because of the choice of games I have played, in which I have some minimum control over the degree of risk I take, it has become fairly rare I have won unexpectedly, actually, the norm had become to lose money either unexpectingly or expectingly.
I rarely set multipliers on dices above 1.20x, same with Plinko, when comes to sportbetting, I only partake on it in football and when there is a tournament/cup which catches my attention.

It seems to me, though, the uncertainty in the end is what makes all kind of casino games and bets to hook us off until the end, when our wallet is empty and the budget to gamble is done.

Well I don't see anything wrong in both unexpected and expected wins they are both exciting when one ascertain a win but mostly that feeling of not expecting to have won it's something so surprising and exciting to me and it keeps you at a State of happiness and fulfilment but on some occasion when you expect that you could win a jackpots wouldn't be as exciting as it is for the other.

For me I love excitement and surprises and that's why when I place bets sometimes I do it not wanting anything in return and then I just let it be but to my surprise I'll always find out that it'll turn out to be big wins and jackpots and you know that feeling of not expecting something to be the way it ought to..that's it and in another aspect when you carry the mindset that you want to win it ends up in losses so that's why I stick to gambling with the amounts you can afford to lose and without returns and trust me you'll like the outcome.

Well from my experience of gambling, I think there is actually no time I do not expect to win but their is also that awareness that the lose is more higher in probability to occur because with gambling the results is more than expected wins so when the win does come it's so exciting because what that slim chance of the win actually came and sometimes the excited triggers more gambling habits making some gamblers think they can still replicate it and this makes them get into more shit.

I don't think anybody gamblers without expecting to win. It will be preferable to spend money on other types of entertainment than to place bets on games you are not expecting to win. However, there are some cases, especially in sports bets, when you have lost hope of winning a bet. Maybe the team you placed a bet on is losing by a wide margin. Later, the team puts up a good performance and wins, making you win the bet. Such unexpected wins are more exciting. It's like recovering something you thought you had lost.

I think both still lead to an exciting situation, but if the question is like that then maybe I think getting an unexpected win can be much more exciting, because when you don't involve any expectations when you are running a session but it turns out that in the end a big win happens then of course it will be very surprising and make you have an extraordinary reaction because of the disbelief that you can get that big win.

We return to the core of the winning situation which is definitely exciting regardless of whether you have expectations or not at all, and the difference I think is only in terms of the reaction or response from the feelings you give off and in the end the point is that winning will always be a fun situation, so I won't compare the two too much.

I admit that the two wins above can provide pleasure for gamblers, but which one is the most enjoyable definitely depends on the gambler himself. I tend to be happier with unexpected wins like jackpots on slots, but the big wins I expect on sports betting are no less exciting. It's all about feelings and how you respond to winning, the most important thing is that the main goal of gambling is not changed and it remains a fun game.

I could say that the reason why you feel this way is because you don't play slot games a lot that have to do with your winnings depending on luck and not based on how you predict your games.
 
When you place your bet on wheel games where you can't determine what the outcome will be, how will you be sure that the game will be in your favour since you said you don't have any unexpected wins? 

If I guess correctly, I think the instance that OP is trying to set here is when you have stake on some accumulator and at some point, you just lost hope that the game was not going to be successful because of how it is going already and after you have given up, you checked later and realized that you have actually won the bet. Although what you said is true, there's no gambler that wager some money without expecting to win, but what if you wager on the first go without expecting to win a jackpot but on your first try, you won millions of dollars from the jackpot, that will be surprising.

It would always be nice if the main purpose of gambling was to have fun, not just aiming for a big win on a bet or on some gambling game.

Unexpected victory becomes a surprise prize, especially since it can be a jackpot, of course, making the goal of playing more and more achieved.
and the expectation of a big win on a sports betting also depends on how you analyze the sports team you support.

Just like you place a bet on your favorite soccer team, of course you know how each player is performing and whether they can win the game or not.

First of all, you gotta rephrase your statement as there's nothing like "expected wins"... It's beyond the unimaginable that you're always out there, wagering on games with 100% certainty and, since it somehow happens coincidentally, you assume that you're a guru? Relax! I'm supposed you know these things already.

I can attest that what you said is true -- I'd still say the same thing assuming I barely had an experience of what gambling looks like.... And what?? The odds are always against you, so you'll always feel like "heaven come down" when it cuts

Between when the bet is staken and when the game is over and you win or lost, alot of things happen that makes up to the overall experience of the gambler, and what the ops is referring to in in same direction as this also because when you place a bet, event and chances happens to both team in the course of the game and that is what make out for the outcome of such a bet.


What make you excited is how and when the winning comes and how their are delivered to you as a gambler, truly anyone who have read what the ops wrote will understand his plight since majority's of us here have experienced something similar to that at some point in time while gambling.

Unexpected wins obviously hit differently. I am yet to see anyone who doesn't get this huge excitement when  good things he least expected happens to him. Even though gambling is all about luck, there are days when one can really be so confident in his predictions due to his knowledge of the game or sport. A win from a game like that is usually exciting, ofcourse who wouldn't be excited to have won in gambling. But, no amount of excitement is compared to a win from a random game one isn't even sure of. A win is a win but there is a huge difference in the feelings when the gambler has already lost hope of winning.

Literally, anything gotten out of surprise, the excitement and joy is higher than the one you are already aware of or expecting and overall, most winnings in gambling comes unexpectedly. I have won several bets unexpectedly and I know the joy that comes along with it. For me there's is nothing like expected winning regardless of how sure you are about winning the bet. If people expects a winning with full confidence I think most winnings would be huge because since they expected the bet to win they will definitely stake with higher amounts to win huge.

Only that has happened to me, and it is when I already have the last portion of money to spend on a game, let's say dice, I have lost almost 100% of my money willing to lose, and if I put the rest, in my mind it is normal to lose, I mean, what, the result of losing does not matter, but sometimes the opposite happens and one can recover what one lost before, even with a little more money, I think those profits are very exciting, in a soccer game, let's say the one between Madrid, where they were losing by 2 goals, in overtime they tied and then they won, that is super exciting.

I think that placing expectations on unexpected wins is one of the signs of addiction, so it's more plausible to expect expected wins, as these can be more planned. It's true that even if the bets are made sensibly, we can still win or have an unexpected win.

But I only gamble to have fun and not expect to make a lot of money from it.

I think the best time we can enjoy our winnings is when we are not expecting to win and suddenly we discovered that it all end up in winning. I just enjoy the winnings of bets I never expected rewards from which is what makes it fun and interesting to keep trying ones luck so that such kind of luck or opportunity could come again. If I expected a winning from a particular game, even though the winnings of the game is huge, I will feel happy but not compared to when I don't expect any winnings. As gamblers, we all want to be making consistent profits from gambling especially when we expected it and when we don't expect it to keep becoming a winning gambler.

Yes, I didn't understand if anyone knew about his win in advance. The joy of that victory is not so exciting. But a sudden unexpected win can make people so excited that they don't have the words to express it. It is not possible to explain the situation that will arise in someone's mind if he finds out that he has won a prize of 1 million dollars after drawing the lottery.

The feeling is the same for unexpected wins and expected wins. I can only be excited when I get to win a huge win compared to small wins.

When you bet and expect a win and you win then you feel like you are better in gambling and it helps you to trust your instincts when selecting games to bet on. Also in unexpected wins, you have already given hope that the bet is over and luckily you won the game at the end of the day. It will be relieving and exciting just like the wins you are expecting so I don't see any difference as both are exciting. But when it comes to whining small and winning huge you can't compare it because winning big is more exciting.

For me I just know every win in gambling excites  me because winning in gambling always come as a surprise.  Gambling is always unpredicted and when a win takes place it gives good joy that needs to be celebrated. One of the funny thing about gambling is that we don't even know when the win will occur and whenever one gets lucky to win it brings so much excitement.
But sometimes it can be different in games like sports games expecially when a superior team is playing against a weaker team, at this point you already know the stronger team have more chances to win and if it eventually comes out as win their won't be much excitement because you already know who likely to win the game.

There is more adrenaline when you bet for the upset and that upset have won by some twist of fate. That's the best feeling that one gambler can feel with their bets.

I'm excited definitely to bet for some expected wins.

But if the time comes that expected win of mine is about to lose and then made me accept that it's already gone but all of a sudden some twist comes, that's also another great experience and feeling.

A win is expected in gambling but if that win is of a different type then it will definitely be exciting. You can easily explain the reaction you get inside your mind when you win a confirmed bet on a bet. But if you see that a bet is uncertain and there is no chance of you winning the bet but suddenly your bet wins then you cannot easily express the reaction that will occur inside your mind. So the joy of suddenly getting an unexpected valuable is much more important and exciting.

I mean, it is a no brainer that unexpected wins are more exciting compared to the expected ones, but then again, the amount of the win matters(at least to me). for example, if I unexpectedly win but the amount is small, though I'd be surprised but I doub't I'll be excited, but if we compare an expected win with big amount and an unexpected win with huge amount I'd be more excited to the one I won unexpectedly.

The gambler who play the game with more emotion,Surely loss their funds.Because they mostly play the safe game,the risk in the gambling sometimes multiples your money.But playing safe game will make you to loss all your money.Because you never any risk in the game,the gambler will try to save their money again and again.The gambling with strategy may help you to make money in the gambling site.Because random betting will make you to lose funds mostly in the gambling site.

It's always like finding money forgotten in that coat you last wore last winter... any money that comes unexpectedly brings us great joy because it's like a gift we've received.

When someone wins and was already expecting this result, it probably happens for one of two reasons:

1. They bet with low risk, so the win is more guaranteed, but the profits are lower;

2. They bet a lot of money on it, and have already lost many times, so the win is like an "obligation" that should arrive sooner or later, so... even when it comes, the feeling is of "duty fulfilled" and nothing more than that.

I'm always aware of the money I'm spending, I play for entertainment, so every win is almost a surprise :D

This is where ignorance have placed its role, I never thought of other games that could be totally dependent on luck and never going to expect what you get just like, slot, spinning the wheel and other games you can play on online casinos. I accept my ignorance and it's true that one may not expect what will be the result of some bets that one stakes on but just as I admitted earlier I always get happier if I win a bet that I was hoping only for the best but expecting the worst results.

I think the reason why an unexpected win can be exciting than the expected is just the word "unexpected" :), the thing is If a game is expected to be a win then you will already have it in mind that you already win it somehow,it's psychological...and the main reason it pains more when you loose those kinds of bets. Unlike unexpected wins, you actually won't have it in mind or expecting expecting  a win (but you know you placed a bet :) ) that's  why it feels like you've won free/extra money when you win these kinds of bets

That's also true for me, probably true to almost all gamblers even. It's more fun to get the unexpected than the expected. That's true to gambling. That's probably even true to other events in our lives. That's very human. There's a good story to tell about the unexpected rather than the expected.

But I don't agree that it is "regardless of the amount of money involved." I don't think so. Even if it is expected, anticipated, and you're even preparing for it, if it's a life-changing amount, it's always more exciting.

Unexpected wins excite more than expected wins and that's because you didn't see that coming, you didn't even plan that win, and it hit. I remember once a user was playing dice for the first time, he tried to place a bet to the biggest chance to win with all in, and by mistake he placed the lowest chance to win, but we all know how the newbies luck works, he won the bet and the profit was huge. So, that's the kind of unexpected win that can change your life, just think about the party he did for that win.

Unexpected wins may be more likely to excite players because there is no hope and plan from the start, but with players who have the goal of gambling to win, they certainly want the gambling they do to produce a win so they can have a certain target and when they have succeeded in getting a win, maybe this also excites them, or these two things are difficult to compare completely.
With those who gamble wisely, it seems that these two things do not have a big influence, so if the gambling they do can produce a win, they will take advantage of it and for those who gamble unwisely will continue to feel excited even though they get a small win and will make them continue gambling. It is indeed difficult to compare these two things, but I myself prefer unexpected wins.

Definitely, we credit our foresight and intuition when we win something we thought we measured and calculated before the game. But when we win by chance, it is imposing, and here we attribute luck solely to chance.

But if we talk about reasonableness, then for me, it is better to have an expected victory with a more probable win and a high stake than to twitch luck by the tail regularly.

Yeah, I think the fact that something is unexpected clearly makes it more of a big deal in our brains.

If something is expected then it's kinda irrelevant and we just simply ignore it.

Our brains are great at doing this, just filtering out all the stuff that we know how to handle. Walking?, easy, you can do that without thinking, but try walking backwards, that will be much more difficult as you will require concentration...

It's something based on the idea that our brains have two ways of processing information. Thinking, Fast and Slow is a great book by Daniel Kahneman that explains this in more detail.

Normally, winning a game unexpectedly is more sweet and encouraging than winning an expected game. If you are expecting to win a game, you will definitely have a plan for that win, but if you just take the risk of playing without expecting any win and you end up winning, you will be the happiest person on this earth.
 
Although my experience on this was not a good one because most of the time if I am expecting to win a game, I mostly end up losing it, but any game that I don't expect to win, that is the game that I mostly win, so even if I am to gamble, I always keep in mind that I might win or lose, and I don't make it to myself like a most for me to win. That is how I actually play my game. I always expect the unexpected.

There's no kind of winning that doesn't excite the gambler, what excite people the more is when they have won a huge amount of money. For example, if you stake $5 and won $15, you might feel a bit happy but when you stake $5 in some accumulator and at last all the selected game was successful and you realize you have won $1,500, you wouldn't know how to express your joy, because you will be extremely happy for staking such little amount and won a huge amount.

Of course, unexpected wins are more exciting, but I seriously doubt that this is always a good thing. An unexpected win is better than an unexpected loss and is always pleasant. But personally, I would prefer an expected win. After all, the unexpectedness of a win most often means that it is random for you. You could not predict it. You did not count on it. Should you rejoice in chance? Today you are lucky, but tomorrow you may be just as unlucky. And if today you feel happy about an unexpected win, then tomorrow you will feel sad about an unexpected loss in the same way.

Indeed, I have also noticed such emotions in myself, even when the bet is smaller than usual, but the event is much more unlikely. It just starts to surprise me, especially if it happens several times in a row. Maybe many people need to reconsider their interests in gambling and play enough with small bets and unlikely events. I think that I will never get tired of it. Another thing is that I do not like betting on small odds at all, I would say that 1.5 and higher are starting to please me, so lately I have been making similar bets and do not get very upset even when I lose.

Truly it is more exciting to win such a huge amount.

I personally was surprised by a max win in slots and that got me excited to play more slots although I don't want to go back to the previous one where I won it because I have this thought that they might get it back from me. :D
Recently, I won x900 in a local online gambling site and that got me more excited because now I know it is possible to receive such a high multiplier in that game.
But sadly, there's also that losing streak that we must be aware of because it happens way too much rather than how rare a big multiplier hit is. IMO, surprising wins even in sports betting are nice and I had also one good experience with that. I cashed out though when I saw how high the multiplier was.

Basically I think winning is a situation that will always be fun regardless of whether you previously had expectations or not at all, but maybe I will also agree with the point of view of some people here that unexpected wins are indeed much more exciting, because when you do not have expectations for victory and it turns out that the victory occurs unexpectedly then it can really surprise you and feel disbelief that you can get that victory.

And also I think it also depends on how much you get, and how little capital you bring when you manage to achieve that big victory, because usually getting a large unexpected victory amount with only a small capital can be really exciting. But in the end and the point is there is no significant difference in these two things, because regardless of whether the victory is based on expectations or not, in the end it is still a fun situation.

When it comes to winning then its true that this is something that will really that make us that excited and this is really that a normal reaction for human beings to have.
We do really want nor like to win up gambling and doesnt matter whether an expected or unexpected one, we are all that thinking up this way and this is something that
will really be that normal approach for us who do gamble. The issue on here is that due to those expectation for winning then people do really end up on getting addicted.

This is why its really that important that on the moment that you do deal up with gambling then make it sure that you wont be finding yourself that becoming impulsive or really that too desperate.
You are the ones who would be needing up to have that control or else you would really be facing up such issues or problems.

It's excite you when you see that you are winning decently without anticipating, unlike with fixed odds where you already expecting that after you win your bet you'll take away such amount, but with unexpected wins like maximizing odds and place a bet just for fun then win the game, it also happened when taking heavy underdog then win with that big upset, that's really gives more pleasure and excitement, more on your emotions that feel the pleasure of extend enjoyment and fulfillment.

Unexpected wins vs expected wins, which excites the most? For me unexpected win is the best i mean not just in the sport bet sometimes it can be happen on any bet.

Let's say you play blackjack the best card game ever haha you see 11 on your deck you double the bet and you think you gonna lose but the dealer is bust. Oh man the double money flow is crazy delicious 🤤 hahah

For me, unexpected winnings and expected winnings will have the same pleasure because after all, even though we don't really expect to win because we also just bet randomly and just for fun but still, in our little hearts there will still be hope for victory regardless of the results. Therefore, for me, unexpected winnings are the same as expected winnings, I personally will not ignore such things. Although, I also realize that we also often have a remaining balance on the gambling platform and when we have free time, then at least we will also play it even though we don't expect to win but basically we as bettors will always have the hope of winning.

Yes, the difference is that from the start we see that we have a small chance so that most likely there will be no hope involved like when we choose an underdog club that will compete with a team that is always favored because of the difference in performance for example, and of course it is true as you said that when it turns out that the underdog team that we choose actually manages to win for some reason such as the opposing team making a mistake on the field then of course it is a victory that will be very surprising, not only for you who watch while betting money but also clearly for the fans. Actually if the scenario is like that then even if for example we do not involve betting then the joy that occurs unexpectedly will still be felt by you but when you see it while involving betting then clearly the level of joy can be more significant, so I quite agree that unexpected victories can be much more exciting than what was previously expected.

Unexpected, I mean in gambling everything is unexpected, your bet on 1.40 odds could go haywire too.

Though, I feel that excitement often depends on circumstances, God forbid if your financial condition were to be weak then you would have been more excited with sports bet win than the small plinko win.

Not only in gambling but on all things you receive unexpected results will thrill you more than what you anticipated, but its more thrilling when it's on gambling because there is an unpected money involved.

I have experienced it on one boxing match when, out of mistake, I bet on an underdog before where I gave up on my chances to win as the underdog was taking a beating, then in the final seconds he scored a win via a last second knockout.
It was unexpected who would have thought that a mistake in a bet would give me unexpected winnings.

You're damn right, it's about the surprise! The unexpected is what gives life value. Is winning a bet thrilling? Nah, the excitement, the uncertainty, the chance for the unanticipated that gets your pulse running

When you bet on sports, you're basically a prisoner to the odds. You are expecting for a particular result. It's mundane and predictable. Plinko is chaos, on the other hand. It's unpredictable, it's thrilling. Every win surprises you, a small win against all the odds. That is what remains with you

Think about it: you remember the underdog victories, the come-from-behind wins, not the expected blowouts. That is also true of your own life. The unanticipated successes and the times of surprise and pleasure define life's worth

Unexpected wins excite me the most because I didn't expect the win to happen but somehow all wins are planned because no one is gambling to lose. We're all doing it because we believe that we can win hence when we finally do, we shouldn't be that surprised just as when we lose we aren't surprised because we expected it to happen.The most exciting win for me are unexpected huge wins that goes into thousands of dollars because it is big and I won't be expecting to win that much.

Sport betting are plan wins for me because I know the teams and play it save when I'm betting but with casino wins, they are unexpected because I didn't know if I'll win or not especially when I'm gambling on slots that are so unpredictable.

Gambling is full of unexpected outcomes this means that no one knows when the wins will actually come because of you do them you won't be over excited because you already know that you are definitely winning something today and you will be willing to stake very high to make good profit but the real excitement to me comes from unexpected big wins, you can not explain the feeling because the amount involved is big, you never wished it will happen that day but it finally came. On this note, I think the unexpected wins will always excite a gambler.

A gambler can increase excitement for several reasons. The excitement begins when someone places a bet. Again depending on one's betting odds and amount the excitement of betting increases. And for some, the excitement increases when they win unexpected bets. When I win unexpected bets like yours, there is great excitement. In gambling there may be a normal excitement when winning after placing a low bet but when there is an unexpected bet the feeling of winning is completely different. But money matters in betting. The more money you get, the more excitement you will get for that bet.

Wins are never certain. You can expect them, but this is a short way to disappointment. Whenever you feel sure of your win the result will be less exciting and a possible loss will hit you much harder.
Therefore I see no reason to even try to act like you know you'll win. It's better to tell yourself you will lose from the start because it makes the win so much better, just like when you get an unexpected gift from someone.

that's true
the thing is that the excitement from winning on gambling will usually be empty and not fullfilling as having long term goals and building things, earning your dopmine is the best way to live after all
you know what i'm talking about, exercise, etc

regarding money mattering, I agree but probably after some point it stops making such a big difference
what do you think?

Well I used to play slots a lot and I don't play that much anymore so I am always excited when I win a big amount as it is always unexpected as you never know what the game will throw at you. Every slot provider is coming up with all new of sort of bonus rounds to keep you hooked and they are constantly changed game mechanisms to keep up with players demand and that is a good thing, the bad thing is that I continue to play the least innovative slot provider, they always come up with the same sort of bonuses and they are one of the worse providers on earth now, called Pragmatic Play, words simply cannot express how bad they are, you have to try it yourself although I never recommend you play their slots, it has been months without a max win there from anybody.

I don't know yet what is an expected win or better I do know as I also play the poker free rolls but I have never won them  ;D.