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Hi. I found something like this:

https://www.bitcoclub.com/

They offer 2 BTC to win. It's already deposited on the address you pay for the tickets. Do you think it is legit?

The domain is not really old. It was registered on 2nd of May of this year. Second is that I have not heard anything about the site before. Just be careful and not send money to such site if you value your money. It is most likely a scam.

The claim of 3 participants, the amount, the blockchain proof looks real. But one can send the funds from own wallet to start the business.

In my opinion these type of lotteries are good initiative, but the type of initiative fails most of the time because people don't want to believe it because the host are mostly unknown. The design of the game looks very attractive to me. 2 BTC, 30 winners, anyone can have a chance to win life changing money.

The credibility of the game can be increased just by using a third party escrow from this forum. We have many reputed members who offers escrow service, many like me does not even charge a fees for the service. By setting a good term with the escrow if the host can market the lottery then I am sure it will be able to create a good traction.

If you offer this huge amount of money, you need to be as transparent as possible, and you need a third party escrow to establish trust and transparency, Based on their Whois the platform is just five months old, and there's little information about the site on the internet .

Anyone can create a platform like this because the script will not cost you a lot I think they even use a free template on https://styleshout.com/free-templates/, now that's questionable. If you have the template's owner on your blog, than that means you are using a free template.

I'm not saying this is a scam but its more likely that they are going to, in case someone hit the jackpot, they can easily pull out the plug because there's no way to know how's running this platform.

There’s no way to verify this unless you win or the company behind this lottery has a good reputation to guarantee that they will send the jackpot prize when someone win.

Having the jackpot prize is not a sign that they are legit since scammer usually have tons of BTC tin their wallet so it can be use to lure players to bet. Imho never trust unknown casino that offers huge amount of money as jackpot prize.

Only trust reputable casino and never use the high rewards as basis of the legitimacy of a casino.

No, I feel something not really good on this site because I see that it is something too good to be true.
1st, there is no clear information about how the site will draw the winner, whether it is provably fair or not.
2nd, there is no information on how many tickets should be sold before the draw is done. Lets say there are only 3 addresses so far (as they claim), will they draw the winner and send the prizes to these 3 addresses if there is no more participants?
If you want to risk your money, simply buy the cheapest ticket 0.0001 who knows that you will win the 1btc but I myself wont be willing to do it although the cheapest ticket is 0.0001btc only.

From what I can see, the site is not licensed. That is a very bad sign. I also don't see the TOS on the site, that is another bad sign. When I search on Google, I can't find any information on casino review sites about this site. Even though the site is new. It is very strange that the owner is not promoting it. And adding the fact that this site does not have an ANN Thread on this forum, everything gets worse. That is why I have a question:

- How did you find this site?

Finally, I have some warnings for those people who are thinking about using this site:

1 -) if the owner of this site really had the money to pay, he would have created a decent site

2 -) if the owner of this site really had the money to pay, he would have paid for advertising and we would easily see people talking about it on Google

3 -) if the owner of this site really had the money to pay, he would have paid for a license

that's why I don't recommend using this site

Always better to err on the side of caution more than anything really when it comes to sites like these. I can't really judge since the side won't load for me (It's still loading after a couple of minutes lol) but if you wanted to play on lotteries, probably better to play on reputable ones instead of being a daredevil, unless you have that much money to spare.

Also, wouldn't it be rather easy to just move the funds to make people think that the casino paid out the winnings? Pretty sure that's not enough to judge something as legit.

I agree with you, the whole story is not really clear for me as well. I was even thinking the otherwise of the legitimate of the site. Scammers are now using real image to scam people so I will only say be careful of whatever claim to give such big amount. Big amount can make someone to fail for victim.
Look before you leap.

Does the site really show that they have that 2BTC in their wallet? Since they need to be transparent if they have funds to pay. Since anyone could actually claim that they have 2 BTC then run a raffle but its hard to post some proof that they have this amount. To unfortunate for people if they join on scams so seek if they have good reputation first before showing some little interest to participate in their raffle.

But it seems that site is questionable since this one is unknown so if I where you maybe I will find another reputable platform that offer raffle which have good prices at stake. Rather than looking forward participating on this questionable site and rewards since maybe we are just wasting our money there.

I found this site thanks to advertising (adMate)

As some of us doesn't know about the site, you can try by yourself with getting a risks of scam. If the ticket is cheap and you can use that money without a problem, you can test to see if that is legit or scam.

But I will not try to buy that lottery. I am feels not right with lottery and I am done if that is about the lottery. I prefer playing slot game than that.

We can only suggests you to be careful using your money. That will be your responsibility. Maybe you need to search for review of that site from other websites.

The site looks bad. Most likely a scam.
No live support. No social media that shows they have a large community to host events with big prizes. Only email that you will probably never get a reply to when you message.

I may be wrong, but the site is very unfamiliar. Wherever you got the site from, it doesn't look like a good place to join. I don't recommend you join the lottery. But it's your money and you are free to put it where you want.

It's a tricki scam, becase thei really have the 2 BTC, they ask users to send the money to the address that holds those 2 btc. But the fact that they have the money doesn't mean it is not a scam.

The ticket distribution tells me its a scam, because there is no logic to that, let me show you an image to explain what I'm talking about:


And i can't find the date when the price will be delivered, so, it looks like this scam comes to stay active for the long run.

I would suggest you to stay away from any websites like these as the chances of them being a potential scam is more than a casino or a lottery site available or registered on this forum. Also, how did you find it out at the first place? How can we know it's not an ad in an informal way.

Review the content and some are off like this -

https://talkimg.com/images/2024/09/23/gVUHb.png

Also, have you seen, there's only 3 participants right now and it says, 30 people will win. I would suggest not to take the bait. I have the feeling that they are a fly-by-night lottery platform, where they will disappear once they have some amount deposited on that address. Even if we say, they have more than 2BTC in their address, it doesn't mean, they will really use it in this contest. It seems that they are using it to lure more naive bettors.

When i try to open the site, it gave me a warning message and did not let me open it.

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/09/23/gVCbc.png

Even if it had opened, i would have never participated in such lotteries. They are just to collect the money from the people and declare no winner or fake winners. I am not only talking about this particular site but generally lotteries are those from of gambling which are mostly rigged and one may never win in lotteries.

The 2 BTC already deposited at the address you pay for the tickets doesn't really mean anything and it doesn't show that they are legitimate. anyway, the whole thing sounds and looks suspicious, if you want to join a Bitcoin lottery or crypto lottery there are reputable casinos that probably offer that game. if I were you I would just avoid the website and forget about it.

 Don't get tricked by hidden spam on this forum (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5190848.0)

Thought you would say that the only way to verify what they really stand for it's either a participant win and get paid or they'll run away with all deposited money, because these are the only two scenario that is probable to occur. Any new unpopular casino can always claim to be of reputation when they are asked about their reputation so it doesn't make any difference if the company behind makes a statement to guarantee their position to pay not until they actually pay it. Actions speaks louder than words.

I can see that it's obvious that you are trying to promote this spammed site with a technique that has been be flagged.
I don't even know what you gain by trying to create awareness about sites like this one with that any of the participants could get lucky and win upto 2 BTC which is obviously not true. This kind of method is not in trend again and I think op can restrategize next time because we'll know this pattern and I don't think any person that has a knowledge about this strategy will want to click on the link.

The bitcoin pool address has 2btc, this makes them look legit, but you still need to be careful because there are many things they can do to make this site legit so many will be interested but actually they are scammers, trying to join in is not a smart move in my opinion so it's better to ignore it because 2btc for only 30 winners is a big amount and looks suspicious.

I didn't take this fact about the 2 BTC seriously because since there is no KYC in the wallets, he could have asked a friend who has 2 BTC to help him and that way he would post the address of the friend who has 2 BTC, because I don't believe that the 2 BTC are his? Because if he really had 2 BTC, then he would have money to create a better website, he would pay for advertising on the best casino review sites. This site is not a professional site and it doesn't even have TOS. All this indicates that the guy has no money, so he won't have money to pay anyone. For me this is very clear and I hope no one falls for this scam.

I wonder what @OP do after he read all replies from all of you guys. I guess he already leaves this forum and search for the other sites.
Maybe he can finds out the sites that have reputations from here and not just try with the site from out there. He doesn't know if that site is legit or scam him easily.
Moreover, I hope @OP can be careful when selects the site. Not many gambling sites out there can be the legit one.

Regardless of what other users of this forum are saying, let me say something that is quite a bit different from the topic, and that is that the site in question function very horribly on mobile, looks to me like the building of the website was rushed and the builders didn't even take out some time to test the adaptation of the site to different screen sizes and browsers.
I visited the site with inbuilt mobile Samsung browser and I could even get hold of any information as all the texts seemed like over zoomed out with no way to zoom in.

Overall, the fact that the owners of this site deposited 2 bitcoin to an address that participant of the lottery will likely be sending funds to; does not justify whether the lottery is legit or not, this is because the private key to the bitcoin address is still owned by those hosting the lottery, and they can decide to withdraw those bitcoins at any time they want.
So, whoever is considering trying out this platform should better be extremely careful so not to be fooled.

It's like he just create an awareness that lottery site exist and offer 2BTC in reward. A simple way on how to promote a casino which have been done by some people who want to shill those sites.

But anyways hopefully he's innocent dude legitimately asking the site he mentioned. For sure he learn a lot of things thru the replies made by people since the answers made by people is valid and hopefully he should find on casino lottery site which had a good record in the community. For sure he could find those casino here since lots of casino posting their thread to market their reputable casino.

The 2 Bitcoin is just bait to make it look legit, but there are many factors that should be considered first. Besides that 2 Bitcoin, I mentioned the absence of escrow and the lack of transparency; they can easily pull the plug, and you literally wasted your money.

This platform is created for newbies who cannot overcome or moderate their greediness, but for the community, we can easily mark this as a scam. We have seen so many like this before, and the community has the same reaction, I'm 100% sure that this platform will cease to exist once they have many people taking a chance to bet.

LMAO! I do not click on random links on this forum, thanks for sharing this with me. And I stay to my words, it's a potential scam as you have mentioned too. Chances of them running after getting even 0.1 BTC is way more than Bitcoin hitting $70k this month. Once again, stay away from this. I also think this post by the OP is an unofficial advertisement of this website, going to report this to the mods.

I would not trust everything that is advertised, because even bad products and dubious websites could still be promoted through advertising. Some of the companies in charge of these advertisements do not really care about properly vetting the kind of advertisement they are promoting but rather are concerned more with the charges and the profit they stand to gain.

If it is too good to be true, it is most likely a scam, even if you say it was advertised online.

Of course, when you say that the lottery has a high chance of not winning, don't expect that to be the case. In our day and age, many people rely on luck; that's why they engage in online gambling and even physical gambling. There are still many people queuing up at lottery outlets because of poverty.

Because of poverty, they only hope for their advancement in life by playing gambling and betting on the lottery; instead of working hard, laziness still prevails, and they hope for the development of life by betting on the lottery.

I guess many have reported the site, I cannot access the site; it was marked Phishing site; By my anti virus and checking on Virustotal, many AV have marked it so access is restricted on this platform and it will eventually be taken over by its host, I wonder why OP called it a a real bitcoin lottery when it's a scam site

https://talkimg.com/images/2024/09/24/gcPeI.png (https://talkimg.com/image/gcPeI)

This is too real to be true. I checked for the source or sponsors but could not get any. On a normal, sponsors of such lottery would want to promote their services through such avenue to making sure it counts for them but nothing of such nature was found on the website. This alone could be a good traffic for them because millions of visitors could be visiting the website every seconds just for the lottery itself.

I also had to see for myself what they their terms and condition looks like but it is not clickable, but other links right on the same spot are clickable and viewable. They posted about the last three participants with txn harsh that is not complete but I checked the wallet  I could not see any txn of that nature and  they could have made the txn harsh clickable to prove their point.

If I would suggest to the team responsible for this lottery give away, I would suggest they have a reputable escrow form this platform  and forget about ticketing because that alone would cast doubt on their genuineness if they are for real. Since this lottery is on bitcoin chain, they could use a method of  applying through their wallet address as it is done here then the lottery can take place whoever's wallet address falls in within the categories wins it. The idea of ticketing is not real for such a lottery give away when it is online and on the same blockchain.

I don't think OP finds this site as he mentioned in the original post.

the fact that he created the account to start the topic and didn't interact with other topics is a signal that this thread was a way to promote the scam. Is the first time we see that link on the forum, so, it was intentional, like a hidden promo played from the victim's side. But in the end it is a promotion.

I really hope no one falls into this trap, that would be sad.

I agree, and the website not being accessible now just adds to the suspicion.

Also, the topic title doesn’t even match the lottery mentioned in the URL........“Real Bitcoin Lottery.” The fact that it starts with “real” immediately makes me think it’s an automatic scam.  :P

They will not want to use escrow because they want to scam. He is not posting on his own thread. Only what he came here to do is to post the scam and expect people to pay him more money. Scammers can be rich also and be using his richness to scam people just like this person.

I clicked on the website and it is still accessible but I can not be stupid for this type of scam.

Maybe it is, maybe it's not, in any case, Op's link is to be considered as suspicious as any other link from a newly created account, so we should just remain cautious and stay vigilant.
That's the conclusion for it for now.

Wow, congrats....you’re in great danger of getting scammed… :P :P

I tried accessing the site again, but no luck. It seems like their website selectively allows access, and those who can get in are likely potential victims. :)

Just to make some elaboration.


On the moment i have read up this line.

I understand you may think it's a Scam. Who offers 2 BTC to win? We are! You are sending your BTC to the address bc1qcysyz3rxaz6uspc7umapw57ev07v8lfhcjtdew. As you can see on Blockchain.com or on any other Bitcoin blockchain explorer, over 2 BTC are already waiting on the same address you make payment. That makes legit that we are the owners of the address bc1qcysyz3rxaz6uspc7umapw57ev07v8lfhcjtdew.Source (https://www.bitcoclub.com/)

Then you could already say that its already shady and its likely that you will get scammed.
Surprisingly theres an increase of its balance on which there's someone who do make out some deposit? lol

Real Bitcoin Lottery - scam or legit? Nah its scam your account is new the domain is new and the site I never heard before I come to this thread like everyday but I never heard of it and then Im trying to open the site. First my browser chrome tell not going to this site because the invalid https certificate and I ignore it and DNS adguard tell not to go then this is a huge scam site.

Never join frenn

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/09/26/ggKUz.png (https://www.talkimg.com/image/ggKUz)

We don't know that for sure because he just came here and ask about the site without we know if that site is legit or scam. We don't have to try to buy the lottery because we never heard about the site so that can makes us gets a trap in the scam.
Hopefully, he will not try to buy the lottery like what we did and leaves the site like that. He can search the other casinos from this forum and I am sure that he will like and have one or more casinos that he can use to playing gambling.
We must be careful from the advertising that we don't knows because that have potential to scam us without we realizes. It is better to prevents than lose the money in a scam casinos.

The truth is that I don't know this website, but my experience with a thing like this is that it is in categories. Some would be sincere and continue to service you as promised, but please read their Ts&Cs very well. But some will just reap off your money and disappear, while the other set may pay you for a while to build the truth and perhaps bring more people to their service, but in the end, they might disappear.

These make the advice difficult to spit out outrightly.

I think the one who commented here is right that the 2BTC might just be smart enough to have curiosity to click on the site platform given by the OP, and I think that the creator of this topic also succeeded. He just went through the question, but what he did was simple promotion.

Now, if he really doesn't know anything, I also have no idea what he is asking about that platform. Anyway,  I am not interested in winning 2BTC because I am unlikely to get that either.

I have no idea why anyone would be interested in investing in these kinds of random lottery sites instead of just playing in established lottery sites like Metawin etc. This just unnecessarily adds an extra layer of risk to an already risky game.

Gamblers should just do some extra research through google etc in order to easily differentiate between these legit and scam sites which is common sense.

I think you work for that source (Lottery), in fact you could be the one who created that link and you are promoting it here, you have to be very stupid to fall for this type of scam.

*Use the casinos you find here on the forum if you want to try your luck.

^{*This is not investment advice or a guide to making money, but it is more feasible than sending money to that link.}