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Title: Will the war between Israel and Lebanon bring another dump for bitcoin??
Post by: rak012 on September 25, 2024, 05:37:10 AM
Every time we saw that when any war happened, the price of bitcoin dumped drastically. At this moment, Israel and Lebanon are in front of a strong war which can caused many destruction. On the other hand, we already watched a almost good rally on bitcoin as well as some alts. But now, according to the previous history, we know after a pump, it takes some correction.

Since we are holding some crypto, we are afraid of another big dump. :(

So my question is that What should we do at this moment as a small traders? Should we sell all the crypto and wait for dump??


Title: Re: Will the war between Israel and Lebanon bring another dump for bitcoin??
Post by: _act_ on September 25, 2024, 05:48:36 AM
All the news that I am listening to are all about the possibility of bitcoin getting to all-time-high anytime soon. I have been reading about the war between Israel and Lebanon since last week or so but the price of bitcoin increased from that time till now. I do not think it can get to the point the war will have significant effect on bitcoin price.


Title: Re: Will the war between Israel and Lebanon bring another dump for bitcoin??
Post by: Die_empty on September 25, 2024, 06:02:17 AM
So my question is that What should we do at this moment as a small traders? Should we sell all the crypto and wait for dump??
You might not get a certain answer because Bitcoin has reacted differently to conflict. Bitcoin price initially dropped when Russia invaded Ukraine. But it recovered after some time, which led to the speculation that Russia was using it to invade sanctions. When Iran launched a massive attack against Israel this year, the price of Bitcoin dropped from $70,000 to $62,000. The current crisis between Israel and Lebanon has not had much influence on the price. But I suspect that a bigger escalation might have a slight influence since the US is the major financier of Israel.

Several factors might lead to the change in the price of Bitcoin. The price might keep increasing or we could experience a drop depending on other factors not related to the conflict. So you need to do your research and come up with a decision.


Title: Re: Will the war between Israel and Lebanon bring another dump for bitcoin??
Post by: Majestic-milf on September 25, 2024, 06:19:59 AM
 Bitcoin is a volatile coin and as such can go down and up at will which means we can't really ascertain if the war has a hand in causing a dump. So far we've seen strong movements in the charts and currently it's price is at $63,525 and we hope to see more increase. When Trump is doing a debate, price increases so in essence, there are other factors that affects it's upward/ downward moves and not just the war .


Title: Re: Will the war between Israel and Lebanon bring another dump for bitcoin??
Post by: _act_ on September 25, 2024, 06:25:16 AM
Bitcoin is a volatile coin and as such can go down and up at will which means we can't really ascertain if the war has a hand in causing a dump. So far we've seen strong movements in the charts and currently it's price is at $63,525 and we hope to see more increase. When Trump is doing a debate, price increases so in essence, there are other factors that affects it's upward/ downward moves and not just the war .
I do not think the debate is part of what is causing the increase in the price of bitcoin. Trump and Harris did not mention bitcoin in the debate at all. If the debate was not conducted, the price of bitcoin will still be where it is now as traders are now expecting bitcoin to increase above $65000.

When you posted this, bitcoin was slightly above $64000.


Title: Re: Will the war between Israel and Lebanon bring another dump for bitcoin??
Post by: OgNasty on September 25, 2024, 12:21:22 PM
While this war is heating up and will likely lead to escalating the overall conflict in the Middle East, I’m not sure of any specific reason why this particular war would affect the Bitcoin price. I think the real concern is the war breaking out into an all out world war, which could have potential to cause any number of horrible outcomes.


Title: Re: Will the war between Israel and Lebanon bring another dump for bitcoin??
Post by: AVE5 on September 25, 2024, 01:23:52 PM
Since we are holding some crypto, we are afraid of another big dump.

So my question is that What should we do at this moment as a small traders? Should we sell all the crypto and wait for dump??

If you sell your coins at this course are you going to take break of your investing and keeping spending the ones you have sold and keep waiting until the war is over?
I guess not. It's a safe plan to have reliable source of funds at most crisis times because at need of economy disasters you'd always have one source which you can turn on to. Interestingly bitcoin is such an asset against such economy disasters also as wars.
Moreover, as the war of Isreatsnd Lebanon are currently ongoing, the price of bitcoin has much been appreciated better than couple of months now before the war. So assume that the war has no effect on bitcoin so then, kindly hold on your coin patiently while striving to reach your goal undistractedly.


Title: Re: Will the war between Israel and Lebanon bring another dump for bitcoin??
Post by: BABY SHOES on September 25, 2024, 01:43:56 PM
How weak is your hand that you are thinking of selling and waiting for that uncertain drop?

The middle east war has been around for several years ... and I feel how this has a slight impact on the movement of bitcoin but this does not care anymore, because bitcoin will not drop significantly due to the war between Israel and Lebanon.

If you are a small trader then you can take advantage of the movement of price fluctuations ... If you are a small investor it is better to hold on and buy again when the decline.


Title: Re: Will the war between Israel and Lebanon bring another dump for bitcoin??
Post by: YOSHIE on September 25, 2024, 02:52:18 PM
Will the war between Israel and Lebanon bring another dump for bitcoin??
If I'm not mistaken, Israel's conflict with Lebanon is not a new war, their conflict peaked in the 1980s and continues to this day, Bitcoin was created in 2009, Israel-Lebanon has not stopped fighting, in terms of Bitcoin speculation it has no influence on Their conflict.

In the past, Iraq and Afghanistan were also hot topics of discussion regarding the surge in Bitcoin prices, the fact that it happened had no influence at all, so we see a lot of war history in the Middle East, Bitcoin remains in its position, in this case it is speculated that the war between Israel-Lebanon has no impact on Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Will the war between Israel and Lebanon bring another dump for bitcoin??
Post by: Awaklara on September 25, 2024, 03:38:15 PM
So my question is that What should we do at this moment as a small traders? Should we sell all the crypto and wait for dump??
don't panic too much. the war that occurred between Israel and Lebanon is actually not the first. the conflict may have decreased due to some tensions that also occurred by several countries that were previously at war.
Bitcoin's trend is currently good, everyone is talking about positive sentiment for the end of this year which is expected to make a fairly high Bitcoin price spike.

maybe the war will not affect the current Bitcoin price. but still hope that the war will not continue to heat up and soon find a way for peace. however, the longer the war lasts, the more people will suffer losses.


Title: Re: Will the war between Israel and Lebanon bring another dump for bitcoin??
Post by: Majestic-milf on September 25, 2024, 03:45:37 PM
Bitcoin is a volatile coin and as such can go down and up at will which means we can't really ascertain if the war has a hand in causing a dump. So far we've seen strong movements in the charts and currently it's price is at $63,525 and we hope to see more increase. When Trump is doing a debate, price increases so in essence, there are other factors that affects it's upward/ downward moves and not just the war .
I do not think the debate is part of what is causing the increase in the price of bitcoin. Trump and Harris did not mention bitcoin in the debate at all. If the debate was not conducted, the price of bitcoin will still be where it is now as traders are now expecting bitcoin to increase above $65000.

When you posted this, bitcoin was slightly above $64000.
Yeah, as at time of when I was writing, it was at that amount I wrote earlier.


Title: Re: Will the war between Israel and Lebanon bring another dump for bitcoin??
Post by: aoluain on September 25, 2024, 06:41:57 PM
I'm not sure that a war between Israel and Lebanon would result in a big drop
in the Bitcoin market. I'm basing this on the timing of it i.e in this time in Bitcoins
cycle after the halving. We are entering a bull market.

A war between those two countries would certainly be one sided, Israel is far
too advanced militarily for lebanon, If on the other have it escalated to include
more countries and become more serious then we could see something happen
in the markets.


So my question is that What should we do at this moment as a small traders? Should we sell all the crypto and wait for dump??

So there is no "we" - everyone is free to do what they want.Nobody can foresee the future
so selling all your crypto might either be a great move or a disaster.


Title: Re: Will the war between Israel and Lebanon bring another dump for bitcoin??
Post by: rhodelmabanal on September 25, 2024, 07:13:21 PM
Every time we saw that when any war happened, the price of bitcoin dumped drastically. At this moment, Israel and Lebanon are in front of a strong war which can caused many destruction. On the other hand, we already watched a almost good rally on bitcoin as well as some alts. But now, according to the previous history, we know after a pump, it takes some correction.

Since we are holding some crypto, we are afraid of another big dump. :(

So my question is that What should we do at this moment as a small traders? Should we sell all the crypto and wait for dump??
War has an effect but not a long term effect, it can effect the price for months but it will recover, for now bitcoin is above 60k$ so it is expected that altcoins will rise even if not all but most of them will surely rise at price, everyone is afraid of dumping except to those who are expert, expert making an opportunity buy buying the coins at low price and sell at high.


Title: Re: Will the war between Israel and Lebanon bring another dump for bitcoin??
Post by: Smack That Ace on September 26, 2024, 08:24:57 AM
Every time we saw that when any war happened, the price of bitcoin dumped drastically. At this moment, Israel and Lebanon are in

So my question is that What should we do at this moment as a small traders? Should we sell all the crypto and wait for dump??

Although the cryptocurrency market is very sensitive to macro news, the market does not always move every time news is released and sometimes even reacting the opposite.

Basically, the market is unpredictable, it does not follow any rules and is not easy to predict. As a trader or investor, to achieve the desired level of profit, you need to combine a lot of market data as well as your knowledge and experience... you should not rely solely on news to speculate.

War happened and theoretically, bitcoin would react and possibly dump, but nothing has happened. It can be said that the market is unpredictable. Furthermore, as some have said, the uptrend is coming soon so even if there is a correction, selling right now is not a good idea. The best strategy at this point is to buy more and hold, hold, hold...absolutely do not sell no matter what happens.


Title: Re: Will the war between Israel and Lebanon bring another dump for bitcoin??
Post by: Iranus on September 26, 2024, 11:48:10 AM

Since we are holding some crypto, we are afraid of another big dump. :(



I think you are the only one who is afraid of that, none of us are afraid of that happening. As I see it, some people even get excited every time the market is dumped because they have more opportunities to buy bitcoins at cheaper prices. Meanwhile, there are still people who don't expect it to happen but they still don't panic because they know that it's part of the game. If you invest with such an unstable mentality, I don't think you are suitable for this market.

As for the external influences on the market, it's like we're talking about the future and we're all like you, no one knows what the future holds. Sometimes we think it will happen but it doesn't and vice versa, so you have to find the answer to your question yourself.


Title: Re: Will the war between Israel and Lebanon bring another dump for bitcoin??
Post by: el kaka22 on September 26, 2024, 05:22:40 PM
I do not think so, it doesn't feel like we are seeing anything crazy there, it's very normal to see that kind of situation and not really that shocking at all. I believe that we are going to see this as something normal and not really a crazy thought, it's definitely something that we can make money from and I am sure that we are going to see this becoming something that will make a ton of money from if we could just put our money on bad days and then wait for the good days.

This doesn't feel like a fair fight, Isarel is fairly more stronger, well they are stronger than any Arabic country they may face against in the near future, and because of that I think it's clear that they are not going to have any trouble for a long time neither. It has to be something that will get greater results later on. They are rich enough to beat them all, and this war will not matter to the market at all, it is not going to be that crazy to anyone and people will probably not care.


Title: Re: Will the war between Israel and Lebanon bring another dump for bitcoin??
Post by: Argoo on September 26, 2024, 05:40:56 PM
Every time we saw that when any war happened, the price of bitcoin dumped drastically. At this moment, Israel and Lebanon are in front of a strong war which can caused many destruction. On the other hand, we already watched a almost good rally on bitcoin as well as some alts. But now, according to the previous history, we know after a pump, it takes some correction.

Since we are holding some crypto, we are afraid of another big dump. :(

So my question is that What should we do at this moment as a small traders? Should we sell all the crypto and wait for dump??

A war between countries like Israel and Lebanon is unlikely to have a significant impact on the price of Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies. For such an impact to exist, the war territory must be much larger and powerful countries must be involved. From October, we expect good growth in the cryptocurrency market and it will be, despite such wars. During military escalations, the Bitcoin rate may temporarily fall a little, but given other diverse and contradictory information about world events, this will not be so noticeable.
I think we should not worry until World War III begins or countries like the United States and China directly and with all their might join it.


Title: Re: Will the war between Israel and Lebanon bring another dump for bitcoin??
Post by: Asiska02 on September 26, 2024, 09:07:34 PM
So my question is that What should we do at this moment as a small traders? Should we sell all the crypto and wait for dump??

I am hearing about this war for the first time in this forum now, I haven’t come across it on social media or news channel recently. If this war was supposed to affect the price of bitcoin, we should by now seeing a lot of decline in the price and a lot of people will also be talking about it as the cause of the dump for bitcoin. There are some ways that may never affect bitcoin no matter how serious the war is in that region. Some specific countries that own the highest world power have more effect on bitcoin price when they’re at war than when they’re not.


Title: Re: Will the war between Israel and Lebanon bring another dump for bitcoin??
Post by: Coyster on September 26, 2024, 09:44:21 PM
I don't think the conflict is now a full-scale war, or at least neither side has declared that they are now in a full-scale war. The tension in the Middle East is only going to intensify with this conflict, coupled with Israel's war in Gaza. That being said, this situation is not going to cause a dump in bitcoins price, Israel and Gaza have been at war for close to a year now, and i have not seen anyone talk about any direct relationship between that crisis and bitcoins price.


Title: Re: Will the war between Israel and Lebanon bring another dump for bitcoin??
Post by: $weetne$$ on September 26, 2024, 10:42:18 PM
Since we are holding some crypto, we are afraid of another big dump. :(

So my question is that What should we do at this moment as a small traders? Should we sell all the crypto and wait for dump??

I am not afraid of any dip regardless of it being a big one or a small correction that is going to happen. I am not too long in investing in Bitcoin but I have already developed a tougher skin for anytime that the market gets a correction. The corrections should be seen as a means to buy more when you have the spare cash but not as a means to panic. Wars historically has brought about a dip in the market when it involves countries of interest to the United States because not all type of wars affect the market. It is because of fear that the market begins to dip but it does not stay that way for long as the market is going to recover. Anything that wants to come out from the war is still not going to have much effect on Bitcoin because  the bull market is coming and no bad news can stop.that from happening.


Title: Re: Will the war between Israel and Lebanon bring another dump for bitcoin??
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on September 26, 2024, 11:24:25 PM
Anything that involves a threat of war will always be delicate, whatever the situation is something that should be avoided at all costs, this will undoubtedly affect the markets, but honestly given the citrusions it may be that if it is maintained alone it would not affect much, now if it escalates to greater, that if the intervention of others begins to be seen, then it is a fact that things could happen as such so that the price is affected, let's hope that this incident does not get worse because it would be very bad, both for the people who are in those countries and for the BTC market in general.


Title: Re: Will the war between Israel and Lebanon bring another dump for bitcoin??
Post by: passwordnow on September 26, 2024, 11:57:10 PM
So my question is that What should we do at this moment as a small traders? Should we sell all the crypto and wait for dump??
That depends on your goal, are you planning to take some profit when this happens? then take your money and wait again for the lows to come. But if you're the typical holder and you plan nothing as of now, then let it be and your portfolio will grow on its own although some fluctuations are inevitable to come. We only have this year and next year for this cycle of the bull run and we'll see the correction next which is we don't know if it will take a longer time and you knew about that, the bear market.

So plan your decisions and how you're going to keep with the market. It varies on how your goals aligns with the market and how needy you are as of the moment. It's not wrong to sell and take the profit and wait for the next buying opportunity. And it's also not wrong to just stand by and do nothing while watching the market on how it reacts on its own with the global events like these wars that have happened. Anyway, we can't afford any new war to come and this is from a perspective of someone that's not even near to those countries.


Title: Re: Will the war between Israel and Lebanon bring another dump for bitcoin??
Post by: GigaBit on September 27, 2024, 12:50:02 AM

Since we are holding some crypto, we are afraid of another big dump. :(

So my question is that What should we do at this moment as a small traders? Should we sell all the crypto and wait for dump??
War has become a common problem in recent times. The use of the term has increased significantly since the start of the war in Russia and Ukraine in particular. But this is why I don't think an investor should sit around selling all his assets. In the meantime we see that the price of Bitcoin is gradually increasing so if selling Bitcoin there is more chance of loss than profit. Moreover, investing in Bitcoin is completely safe for those who invest or hold Bitcoin. Long-term Bitcoin holders need not worry about recent pumps or dumps war situation. When the Russia and Ukraine war broke out there was panic among investors in crypto platforms but those who did not panic and held at that time everyone benefited. war will start and end so it is best to take regular steps to hold on to Bitcoin without panicking.


Title: Re: Will the war between Israel and Lebanon bring another dump for bitcoin??
Post by: mirakal on September 27, 2024, 10:41:21 AM


So my question is that What should we do at this moment as a small traders? Should we sell all the crypto and wait for dump??
We can't say there’s no impact on price trends since this conflict affects us all economically. Personally, I don’t think it’s causing a significant drop in prices, unlike what we experience from Russia and Ukraine. Until the situation never calms down in those countries, there will always be risks in the market. So, it’s crucial, and as much as possible, we stay vigilant and keep calm because I doubt this will last long, which means Bitcoin prices could rebound quickly if there’s any dip. Let’s try not to get too emotional about the happenings and avoid panic selling unless absolutely necessary, as that will only worsen the decline.


Title: Re: Will the war between Israel and Lebanon bring another dump for bitcoin??
Post by: justdimin on September 27, 2024, 11:49:31 AM
Let’s try not to get too emotional about the happenings and avoid panic selling unless absolutely necessary, as that will only worsen the decline.
I believe this is what OP exactly looking for. All those seasonal buyers and holders are keenly watching for all the news and events to update the stoploss for their holding. Preparing for panic selling on the halving year is not at all making any sense to me and as per history, we are going to enter a bullish year which all means even a dip happens due to this war reason, we should consider that as another buying point.

my question is that What should we do at this moment as a small traders? Should we sell all the crypto and wait for dump??
If you are a trader, always keep eye on your stoploss levels; trailing stoploss will help you to secure your unrealized profits if any. Bitcoin market may ignore this war or may get less impacted but preparing for all of the scenarios with proper stoploss levels will help a trader for sure.


Title: Re: Will the war between Israel and Lebanon bring another dump for bitcoin??
Post by: Republikcoin.com on September 27, 2024, 02:14:55 PM
Every time we saw that when any war happened, the price of bitcoin dumped drastically. At this moment, Israel and Lebanon are in front of a strong war which can caused many destruction. On the other hand, we already watched a almost good rally on bitcoin as well as some alts. But now, according to the previous history, we know after a pump, it takes some correction.
Actually, it is not Lebanon as a whole, but just a big community in Lebanon and that community has been at odds with Israel for a long time so it is now getting more prominent. But I don't see any major impact on crypto and Bitcoin in particular because the price of Bitcoin is currently almost $66K with a pretty good increase though not too fast.

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Since we are holding some crypto, we are afraid of another big dump. :(

So my question is that What should we do at this moment as a small traders? Should we sell all the crypto and wait for dump??
You don't have to sell all your crypto assets because you just need to take it more calmly and not panic because right now we are in a very good phase so any wrong action through our own decisions will be a pretty painful regret later. So please stay calm and don't overreact unless you still have plans to buy some other crypto assets in larger quantities.


Title: Re: Will the war between Israel and Lebanon bring another dump for bitcoin??
Post by: STT on October 01, 2024, 08:31:23 PM
Ive been watching the war around Israel since the 80's    At this point it would abnormal if they were not killing each other for a change, that part has become normal.  An especially brutal pointless war as the majority of people who die had no weapons or were ever given a chance to defend themselves.

The only difference now from prior upset would be magnitude, its already decades long in duration and we have surely seen many deaths already.   Its an ongoing negative, there is a cost and its sad as likely its already accounted for in the markets by its constant presence.


Title: Re: Will the war between Israel and Lebanon bring another dump for bitcoin??
Post by: Ojima-ojo on October 01, 2024, 08:35:16 PM
All the news that I am listening to are all about the possibility of bitcoin getting to all-time-high anytime soon. I have been reading about the war between Israel and Lebanon since last week or so but the price of bitcoin increased from that time till now. I do not think it can get to the point the war will have significant effect on bitcoin price.
We are far from seeing a Bitcoin dump, and even the current market drop is as a result of corrections from the last week mid bull market sentiment and for sure a lot of us have being expecting a more Bitcoin uptrend direction movement more than the downward movement as mentioned by the ops.


Political war is not so significant that can dump Bitcoin price, but rather the war could be a reason thafor Bitcoin uptrend since demands to move money around Incase of an emergency Bitcoin is most suitable, so if anything related to Bitcoin and war it means it will trigger a more positive direction rather than a negative one.


Title: Re: Will the war between Israel and Lebanon bring another dump for bitcoin??
Post by: Ndabagi01 on October 01, 2024, 09:09:53 PM
Since we are holding some crypto, we are afraid of another big dump. :(

So my question is that What should we do at this moment as a small traders? Should we sell all the crypto and wait for dump??

No you shouldn’t allow fear and panic to cause to sell your crypto in the portfolio. When a dump happens, the best thing you should do is to look for a way to increase your holdings in your portfolio. No one can see a dump coming and when you rush to sell, it becomes very risky for you to get that amount of crypto in your holdings if a dump never happens and a pump continues from that point. Don’t trade with fear, wait for when your portfolio is mature enough to sell your holdings.

Actually, it is not Lebanon as a whole, but just a big community in Lebanon and that community has been at odds with Israel for a long time so it is now getting more prominent. But I don't see any major impact on crypto and Bitcoin in particular because the price of Bitcoin is currently almost $66K with a pretty good increase though not too fast.

I don’t really hear any news about this two countries been at war and as of the time this thread was created, bitcoin was in green, in an upward trend. I’m just hearing of the news of an attack on Israel by Iran, I haven’t verified the news though, but with the dump that happened in bitcoin just today, such types of incidence could have caused that to happen.


Title: Re: Will the war between Israel and Lebanon bring another dump for bitcoin??
Post by: OgNasty on October 02, 2024, 12:01:52 AM
It seems like this conflict is definitely lending fear to the market at the moment. Israel has stated they plan to respond tonight and severely. That is concerning as I don’t think anyone else needs to die but I assume that this strike will lead to a selloff and mark a temporary bottom in the market. I just hope for minimal casualties tonight.


Title: Re: Will the war between Israel and Lebanon bring another dump for bitcoin??
Post by: philipma1957 on October 02, 2024, 12:04:01 AM
It seems like this conflict is definitely lending fear to the market at the moment. Israel has stated they plan to respond tonight and severely. That is concerning as I don’t think anyone else needs to die but I assume that this strike will lead to a selloff and mark a temporary bottom in the market. I just hope for minimal casualties tonight.

buy the dip and hodl.

and

say a prayer for the kids that will die never having a chance to grow to adulthood


Title: Re: Will the war between Israel and Lebanon bring another dump for bitcoin??
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on October 07, 2024, 02:57:47 AM
Political war is not so significant that can dump Bitcoin price, but rather the war could be a reason thafor Bitcoin uptrend since demands to move money around Incase of an emergency Bitcoin is most suitable, so if anything related to Bitcoin and war it means it will trigger a more positive direction rather than a negative one.
I just hope things are different in a short term, I would like this conflict with Israel to cease and not feed that hatred anymore, because in reality that can escalate further and the worst thing is that innocent people always die, children die, the future of the world dies, valuable people die who can make a difference at any moment, really if they make me choose what I prefer? If I would fear that war and that the BTC bullish trend is delayed or that the war occurs and the trend is given, a thousand times I would choose for the war to end, the BTC trend can happen at any moment, but human lives must be cared for, preserved and more so when there are innocent people involved.



Title: Re: Will the war between Israel and Lebanon bring another dump for bitcoin??
Post by: Kemarit on October 07, 2024, 11:12:53 AM
Political war is not so significant that can dump Bitcoin price, but rather the war could be a reason thafor Bitcoin uptrend since demands to move money around Incase of an emergency Bitcoin is most suitable, so if anything related to Bitcoin and war it means it will trigger a more positive direction rather than a negative one.
I just hope things are different in a short term, I would like this conflict with Israel to cease and not feed that hatred anymore, because in reality that can escalate further and the worst thing is that innocent people always die, children die, the future of the world dies, valuable people die who can make a difference at any moment, really if they make me choose what I prefer? If I would fear that war and that the BTC bullish trend is delayed or that the war occurs and the trend is given, a thousand times I would choose for the war to end, the BTC trend can happen at any moment, but human lives must be cared for, preserved and more so when there are innocent people involved.

That is the bad side of war, there are collateral damages, including children and women and people that doesn't have to do with war. And if this happens, then it going to be cyclical again and there are no ends to this war, even in the next 100 years, we might see the war continuing.

And as we have seen, it has somewhat short term effects on the price of Bitcoin, as it went down to $60,000 but the good news is that it was able to hold it and now making a good recovery. And I do agree that the only thing that we can do is to pray and hope that casualties are not going to be high or the war end soon.


Title: Re: Will the war between Israel and Lebanon bring another dump for bitcoin??
Post by: davis196 on October 07, 2024, 11:42:40 AM
Every time we saw that when any war happened, the price of bitcoin dumped drastically. At this moment, Israel and Lebanon are in front of a strong war which can caused many destruction. On the other hand, we already watched a almost good rally on bitcoin as well as some alts. But now, according to the previous history, we know after a pump, it takes some correction.

Since we are holding some crypto, we are afraid of another big dump. :(

So my question is that What should we do at this moment as a small traders? Should we sell all the crypto and wait for dump??

Every time? Really? The Bitcoin price dropped several months after Russia invaded Ukraine back in 2022, so the price drop wasn't directly caused by the war. Israel started the operation in Gaza back in October 2023, but the Bitcoin price went from 27K to 73K in the months after October 2023. Your statement about every war around the world causing a BTC price drop is simply wrong. Can you backup your statement with any facts? I don't think so.
A war between Israel and Iran might influence the BTC price for a while, but I don't believe that such war will happen.


Title: Re: Will the war between Israel and Lebanon bring another dump for bitcoin??
Post by: tabas on October 07, 2024, 01:41:18 PM
Someone worried about the war that should affect Bitcoin and the crypto market probably hasn't been into other global situations while being on this market. So, you can keep your assets in stables if you resort of selling your Bitcoin and dumping everything that you can. But many of the experienced ones are calm and won't be affected by these global news that are happening as long as it's not concerning them, there's nothing to worry about. We do not like these wars but if it's about your personal asset and economy that you're thinking of, as long as you're doing well, why sell? there's the right time for that.


Title: Re: Will the war between Israel and Lebanon bring another dump for bitcoin??
Post by: CryptoBuds on October 07, 2024, 01:53:33 PM
Every time we saw that when any war happened, the price of bitcoin dumped drastically. At this moment, Israel and Lebanon are in front of a strong war which can caused many destruction. On the other hand, we already watched a almost good rally on bitcoin as well as some alts. But now, according to the previous history, we know after a pump, it takes some correction.

Since we are holding some crypto, we are afraid of another big dump. :(

So my question is that What should we do at this moment as a small traders? Should we sell all the crypto and wait for dump??

Every time? Really? The Bitcoin price dropped several months after Russia invaded Ukraine back in 2022, so the price drop wasn't directly caused by the war. Israel started the operation in Gaza back in October 2023, but the Bitcoin price went from 27K to 73K in the months after October 2023. Your statement about every war around the world causing a BTC price drop is simply wrong. Can you backup your statement with any facts? I don't think so.
A war between Israel and Iran might influence the BTC price for a while, but I don't believe that such war will happen.


Although bitcoin is very sensitive to news about war or news related to the health of the world economy, not every news affects it, it all depends on the magnitude of each news. In addition, those effects often only have short-term effects, and cannot have long-term effects.

In terms of scale, the war between Russia and Ukraine would have a more serious impact on the entire world economy, not just the cryptocurrency industry. But as we see, things have changed and adapted over time and I hardly see anyone mentioning the negative effects of that war anymore.

The war between Iran and Israel remains tense, but news about the US election and the Fed's rate cut is getting more attention. So there is no guarantee that the market will be dumped if the war gets worse, so the idea of ​​speculating on the news is too risky.


Title: Re: Will the war between Israel and Lebanon bring another dump for bitcoin??
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on October 10, 2024, 09:46:41 PM
And as we have seen, it has somewhat short term effects on the price of Bitcoin, as it went down to $60,000 but the good news is that it was able to hold it and now making a good recovery. And I do agree that the only thing that we can do is to pray and hope that casualties are not going to be high or the war end soon.

Well if the problem is solved so that there are no more deaths then it is much better, things will always be beneficial so that they can occur and if the price of btc recovers then it is a great and good omen, it is just that for many it matters, however I am more interested in there not being a war where children and people die because it is not only fair, I believe that people must die but by God's designs and not because man has determined it, based on these such things can be intuited ,  I just hope that this thing about wars ends, it is not the way to make people believe which is the best religion or things that are not in agreement.


Title: Re: Will the war between Israel and Lebanon bring another dump for bitcoin??
Post by: Baofeng on October 12, 2024, 09:05:43 AM
Every time we saw that when any war happened, the price of bitcoin dumped drastically. At this moment, Israel and Lebanon are in front of a strong war which can caused many destruction. On the other hand, we already watched a almost good rally on bitcoin as well as some alts. But now, according to the previous history, we know after a pump, it takes some correction.

Since we are holding some crypto, we are afraid of another big dump. :(

So my question is that What should we do at this moment as a small traders? Should we sell all the crypto and wait for dump??

I think we have seen the effects of the looming war in the Middle East, as it seems we have a hard time getting into the $65k++ range. And every time we achieved it, prices going down again or there is a correction. Although for me, it's really scary to hear that there is a another war as we talk about children as collateral damage, in terms of the world finances, everything is affected as well.

But it could be short term effect, just like when we had the Ukraine vs Russia, we see the price dump, but then we had recovered and not sure how long that war it, but it doesn't have any effect on us long term. So that could happen to us as well, maybe in 2025, even if there is still the war, we might see the price going into a parabolic rise and reaching 6 digits.


Title: Re: Will the war between Israel and Lebanon bring another dump for bitcoin??
Post by: Wexnident on October 12, 2024, 12:50:36 PM
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Depends? Pretty sure in the long term it wouldn't impact the market that much. Even if it did, again, in the long term the impact, however big it maybe, would've probably dwindled down already. Even then in the past, I highly doubt any dumps, if there were any, were directly caused by the war. It's pretty similar to how some people keep claiming Bitcoin rose to high levels during Biden's term, and while it did, it was never really the actual cause.

Short term wise, just observe the market as usual really. I don't see any reason you'd need to mind the war in the first place anyway.


Title: Re: Will the war between Israel and Lebanon bring another dump for bitcoin??
Post by: Solosanz on October 12, 2024, 03:29:31 PM
Fortunately there's no impact by this war, even HBO documentary that claimed know who's Satoshi also not affect Bitcoin price. Although the price was affected by SEC that sold the coins from Silk Road, but now the price back to normal again.

This is just the beginning of bull season in this year.


Title: Re: Will the war between Israel and Lebanon bring another dump for bitcoin??
Post by: Webetcoins on October 12, 2024, 06:12:50 PM
Since we are holding some crypto, we are afraid of another big dump. :(

So my question is that What should we do at this moment as a small traders? Should we sell all the crypto and wait for dump??
No you shouldn’t allow fear and panic to cause to sell your crypto in the portfolio. When a dump happens, the best thing you should do is to look for a way to increase your holdings in your portfolio. No one can see a dump coming and when you rush to sell, it becomes very risky for you to get that amount of crypto in your holdings if a dump never happens and a pump continues from that point. Don’t trade with fear, wait for when your portfolio is mature enough to sell your holdings.
I think panic is the product of our fear. We can also panic but not that we are fearful but we are positive and we are going buy.

Fear or selling is negative and negative is usually known to be wrong but it does not always mean that all positives are right, like for example when we are so positive that the pump in price is going to continue further.

Many people are like this, up to the point that they will only miss the opportunity of selling their cryptos. He might only be a newbie, for him to get scared of dumping of the price, so it is not easy for him to buy during it but if he will keep on studying the art of investing in BTC, he will eventually build his confidence.

In investing, we have analysis here which act like a guide to possibly tell if there is a pump or dump coming, though of course there are still times that our predictions can go against us, so we must only have a plan b just it case it happens.

If we think that a dump is coming and then the price is already nice for us to profit, I think we can also choose to sell if we need the money urgently. If a dump never happens, that is actually a good thing. It is not what you called as very risky. A continuous pump can be able to help us to get to our target profit real quickly.


Title: Re: Will the war between Israel and Lebanon bring another dump for bitcoin??
Post by: icalical on October 17, 2024, 11:28:56 AM
As rising tensions between Israel and Lebanon set in, the implications for Bitcoin have been fairly notable. In most geopolitical crises, Bitcoin usually falls along with traditional markets, events of which have been recorded in the past. On early October, Bitcoin was down some 3-4% since war tensions started rising, with prices falling under $62,000. That mirrored moves in equity markets around the world and showed Bitcoin was still being treated as a "risk asset" in times of turbulence, not unlike gold.

But even against the short term turbulence of such times, many crypto analysts insist that Bitcoin maintains value against inflation and currency debasement over long periods. And though it jumped right away, true investors should have big picture perspective and take on risk levels appropriate for their needs rather than act on a short-term bump. Small traders can lose in an upturn when the market evens out by panic selling during this time.


Title: Re: Will the war between Israel and Lebanon bring another dump for bitcoin??
Post by: pooya87 on October 17, 2024, 11:42:41 AM
The terrorists attacks that Israel is carrying out in the region can lead to a wider conflict between NATO and the regional powers that the Israeli terrorists are poking these days. That has the potential of annihilating the global economy in a way that we see a Financial Armageddon. In which case not just bitcoin but all markets would severely crash alongside the global economy.


Title: Re: Will the war between Israel and Lebanon bring another dump for bitcoin??
Post by: fuguebtc on October 17, 2024, 03:45:31 PM
The terrorists attacks that Israel is carrying out in the region can lead to a wider conflict between NATO and the regional powers that the Israeli terrorists are poking these days. That has the potential of annihilating the global economy in a way that we see a Financial Armageddon. In which case not just bitcoin but all markets would severely crash alongside the global economy.

It seems that the United States is the only country that supports and abets Israel's terrorist acts, other NATO members like France also strongly condemn what Israel is doing . Not to mention, the United Nations has also warned, but it seems that the Israeli terrorists do not care because they know that the United States supports them.

This conflict would actually spread and could trigger World War III if these terrorists launched a full-scale attack on Iranian territory .  According to the news I read ,  they are planning to attack Iran's military base and are waiting for the US permission to do it . But with the upcoming election, I think this could be postponed because it could affect the election .

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/10/17/84js1.png

https://www.politico.eu/article/france-bans-israeli-companies-from-euronaval-arms-show/


Title: Re: Will the war between Israel and Lebanon bring another dump for bitcoin??
Post by: Plaguedeath on October 17, 2024, 04:05:32 PM
As rising tensions between Israel and Lebanon set in, the implications for Bitcoin have been fairly notable. In most geopolitical crises, Bitcoin usually falls along with traditional markets, events of which have been recorded in the past. On early October, Bitcoin was down some 3-4% since war tensions started rising, with prices falling under $62,000. That mirrored moves in equity markets around the world and showed Bitcoin was still being treated as a "risk asset" in times of turbulence, not unlike gold.
I don't think the 3%-4% decline was caused by the tension between Israel and Lebanon, it's more like a normal volatility. Bitcoin price even down below $60K without any reason. Bitcoin and gold price are keep rising now, if Bitcoin can rise because we're in bull season, while gold price can rise because Average Joe think gold is the best asset to protect their wealth during recession, crisis or global problem.


Title: Re: Will the war between Israel and Lebanon bring another dump for bitcoin??
Post by: bitgolden on October 17, 2024, 08:55:32 PM
I am not entirely sure if it would be a big dump though. I mean you can talk about politics as much as you want, I have no part in the politics discussion of this, but I can tell you that there are a lot of people who would be willing to get rid of this type of situation and just live a normal life. And because of this, if the price goes down then we are going to end up with recovering quite easily once again, won't be a huge issue and should be fine.

I understand it is not going to be a big deal, but I also understand this is not going to be a simple thing neither for a lot of people who live in the region. I believe ,the price will just go down a bit, but then recover because the price of bitcoin doesn't depend on these nations, so it shouldn't crash that hard. Unless USA gets into a war, or UK, then I doubt it would be impacted too much, and even if they do, it would be impacted for just a while and not longer. We need to realize crypto doesn't care.


Title: Re: Will the war between Israel and Lebanon bring another dump for bitcoin??
Post by: pooya87 on October 18, 2024, 01:52:51 PM
It seems that the United States is the only country that supports and abets Israel's terrorist acts, other NATO members like France also strongly condemn what Israel is doing . Not to mention, the United Nations has also warned, but it seems that the Israeli terrorists do not care because they know that the United States supports them.
Unfortunately these are just empty words. For example Macron is still supplying weapons and troops to Israel despite what he says to appease the people. Other Europeans don't even bother with that like Germany for instance that not only supports the genocide and Holocaust in Gaza but also sending troops and weapons openly. Just the other day a German warship shot down a Lebanese drone in help of the Israeli terrorists.

This conflict would actually spread and could trigger World War III if these terrorists launched a full-scale attack on Iranian territory .  According to the news I read ,  they are planning to attack Iran's military base and are waiting for the US permission to do it . But with the upcoming election, I think this could be postponed because it could affect the election .
They don't need permission, they never had. What the Israeli terrorists need is the US military help to be able to penetrate the most advanced layered air defense in the world.

The reason why it hasn't happened yet is not the election, it is the fact that if US gets directly involved it would turn all US assets into legitimate targets for Iran and Iran could wipe them all out in a blinking of an eye. That's an escalation level that neither Iran nor Washington want.
So the terrorists are trying to come up with a strike that is small enough that doesn't get Iran to respond but big enough so that they can use it in their propaganda and call it a "strike". Then we also have Iran that has drawn the line in the sand that any kind of aggression would be met with a MASSIVE retaliation and deadly blows to the Zionist regime that would cripple it.


Title: Re: Will the war between Israel and Lebanon bring another dump for bitcoin??
Post by: lizarder on October 18, 2024, 04:12:22 PM
I am not entirely sure if it would be a big dump though. I mean you can talk about politics as much as you want, I have no part in the politics discussion of this, but I can tell you that there are a lot of people who would be willing to get rid of this type of situation and just live a normal life. And because of this, if the price goes down then we are going to end up with recovering quite easily once again, won't be a huge issue and should be fine.
I believe that every event that is associated with the bitcoin drop has an effect of the economic conditions caused by the war but it is only temporary not for the long term. It will not be a big deal when people understand the journey of bitcoin because we see how the global economy has been hit bitcoin is still gaining the best momentum to get back to a positive trend.

I understand it is not going to be a big deal, but I also understand this is not going to be a simple thing neither for a lot of people who live in the region. I believe ,the price will just go down a bit, but then recover because the price of bitcoin doesn't depend on these nations, so it shouldn't crash that hard. Unless USA gets into a war, or UK, then I doubt it would be impacted too much, and even if they do, it would be impacted for just a while and not longer. We need to realize crypto doesn't care.
It always makes sense that when the UK or US goes to war it will put downward pressure on bitcoin but are we sure that is the most likely reason. Because both of these countries play such a big role in the global economy then one would be more likely to believe that when the US goes to war it will put a huge amount of pressure on bitcoin.

That is what they created and control the global economy so they are considered as one of the strongest countries in many aspects and maybe only a few countries are able to achieve the level of success that the US has done. But ignore that because whatever level affects bitcoin will definitely gain momentum towards a positive trend.


Title: Re: Will the war between Israel and Lebanon bring another dump for bitcoin??
Post by: Synchronice on October 19, 2024, 10:49:35 AM
Every time we saw that when any war happened, the price of bitcoin dumped drastically. At this moment, Israel and Lebanon are in front of a strong war which can caused many destruction. On the other hand, we already watched a almost good rally on bitcoin as well as some alts. But now, according to the previous history, we know after a pump, it takes some correction.

Since we are holding some crypto, we are afraid of another big dump. :(

So my question is that What should we do at this moment as a small traders? Should we sell all the crypto and wait for dump??
We don't know what will happen and it's very hard to suggest whether buy or sell crypto. If there is a big strike and a fuel to the fire will be added, which will result in World War 3, then no one really will care about Bitcoin. At the moment you see dumps because people are afraid of worsening of the situation and are trying to leave the game early.
People use psychology in trading. Now, you think that war will dump the price, that's what others think too, so this expectation translates into dumped Bitcoin's price and some sell before it dumps and buy when it dumps but no one knows what will really happen.

It seems that the United States is the only country that supports and abets Israel's terrorist acts, other NATO members like France also strongly condemn what Israel is doing . Not to mention, the United Nations has also warned, but it seems that the Israeli terrorists do not care because they know that the United States supports them.
Unfortunately these are just empty words. For example Macron is still supplying weapons and troops to Israel despite what he says to appease the people. Other Europeans don't even bother with that like Germany for instance that not only supports the genocide and Holocaust in Gaza but also sending troops and weapons openly. Just the other day a German warship shot down a Lebanese drone in help of the Israeli terrorists.
Germany is in the worst situation in this case because of their past. You know what Germans have been doing to Jewish people and Germany has been trying very hard to prove that they changed for better after both World Wars, so if they don't support Israel, then they can experience lots of negativity. I would say that Germany is forced to support them.

The reason why it hasn't happened yet is not the election, it is the fact that if US gets directly involved it would turn all US assets into legitimate targets for Iran and Iran could wipe them all out in a blinking of an eye. That's an escalation level that neither Iran nor Washington want.
What do you exactly mean?


Title: Re: Will the war between Israel and Lebanon bring another dump for bitcoin??
Post by: bitterguy28 on October 19, 2024, 11:43:07 AM
Every time we saw that when any war happened, the price of bitcoin dumped drastically. At this moment, Israel and Lebanon are in front of a strong war which can caused many destruction. On the other hand, we already watched a almost good rally on bitcoin as well as some alts. But now, according to the previous history, we know after a pump, it takes some correction.

Since we are holding some crypto, we are afraid of another big dump. :(

So my question is that What should we do at this moment as a small traders? Should we sell all the crypto and wait for dump??
Why every war in the world needs to be affecting Bitcoin into dumping ? Does Bitcoin can exist without any war ?

And besides Israel and  Lebanon has nothing to do with the growth and dumping of Bitcoin SI I am sure this will not affect Bitcoin price by all means .


Title: Re: Will the war between Israel and Lebanon bring another dump for bitcoin??
Post by: Swordsoffreedom on October 19, 2024, 11:57:07 AM
Every time we saw that when any war happened, the price of bitcoin dumped drastically. At this moment, Israel and Lebanon are in front of a strong war which can caused many destruction. On the other hand, we already watched a almost good rally on bitcoin as well as some alts. But now, according to the previous history, we know after a pump, it takes some correction.

Since we are holding some crypto, we are afraid of another big dump. :(

So my question is that What should we do at this moment as a small traders? Should we sell all the crypto and wait for dump??
Why every war in the world needs to be affecting Bitcoin into dumping ? Does Bitcoin can exist without any war ?

And besides Israel and  Lebanon has nothing to do with the growth and dumping of Bitcoin SI I am sure this will not affect Bitcoin price by all means .

When war breaks out and spreads to many regions of the world, it can cause instability in world supply, thereby negatively affecting the global economy. Bitcoin is part of the world economy and when the world economy is unstable, it is inevitable that Bitcoin will be affected. Not to mention, it is a highly volatile and risky asset, and speculative assets like bitcoin or stocks will often be dumped if the world economy has problems. It would be incorrect to say that bitcoin would not be affected in any way if war broke out.

But it all depends on the scale of the war and its impact on the economy, the truth is that not every war has a negative impact on bitcoin.
Right now, the war is not getting too serious and let's pray that things will end soon instead of getting more complicated. This is not only because we are afraid of bitcoin being dumped, but also because war is a crime, so many people are dying in vain.


Title: Re: Will the war between Israel and Lebanon bring another dump for bitcoin??
Post by: pooya87 on October 19, 2024, 12:47:48 PM
Germany is in the worst situation in this case because of their past. You know what Germans have been doing to Jewish people and Germany has been trying very hard to prove that they changed for better after both World Wars, so if they don't support Israel, then they can experience lots of negativity. I would say that Germany is forced to support them.
It is more like Germany is participating in yet another genocide.

The reason why it hasn't happened yet is not the election, it is the fact that if US gets directly involved it would turn all US assets into legitimate targets for Iran and Iran could wipe them all out in a blinking of an eye. That's an escalation level that neither Iran nor Washington want.
What do you exactly mean?
It is complicated and I covered it a little bit here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5511403.msg64591916#msg64591916

But long story short the Israeli terrorists don't have the capability to deliver a meaningful strike on Iran. They will need full support of NATO specifically US military. They will need US aircrafts, US bombs, US satellites, US cyber warfare unit (to overwhelm Iranian radars), US tanker aircrafts (to be able to travel long distance), possibly US Navy, etc. So basically it would be like US striking Iran which is declaration of war and according to international law (I believe article 51 of UN charter covers this) all US assets (that includes US mainland) become legitimate targets to be attacked and destroyed as Iran sees fit.

So it all comes down to what the terrorists with their supporters are going to do and how Iran decides to respond to that act of aggression.
For example an strike on Iranian oil/energy facilities could result in destruction of all energy facilities in Middle East and removal of tens of millions of daily barrels of oil from the market and a global economic catastrophe.
Or for example a strike on Iranian peaceful nuclear program could be met with a massive nuclear strikes on anyone involved (that includes US mainland).


Title: Re: Will the war between Israel and Lebanon bring another dump for bitcoin??
Post by: Nothingtodo on October 20, 2024, 03:25:35 PM
So my question is that What should we do at this moment as a small traders? Should we sell all the crypto and wait for dump??
The war between Russia and Ukraine also had a negative impact on the Bitcoin market, albeit for a few days.  The war between Israel and Palestine also had a negative impact.  Now if a war takes place between Israel and Lebanon then the market will definitely have a negative impact for some time.


Title: Re: Will the war between Israel and Lebanon bring another dump for bitcoin??
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on October 20, 2024, 03:29:30 PM

I don't think the 3%-4% decline was caused by the tension between Israel and Lebanon, it's more like a normal volatility. Bitcoin price even down below $60K without any reason. Bitcoin and gold price are keep rising now, if Bitcoin can rise because we're in bull season, while gold price can rise because Average Joe think gold is the best asset to protect their wealth during recession, crisis or global problem.

VI agree with you, it could also be a normal setback that happens in any speculative market, for me it could be a setback that helps boost the price, that's all I see,  however I think things could be different, it's just mere speculation, but the tension between these two of the conflict could cease quickly because in the news I saw that they killed the leader of Hezbollah , I don't know if it's true, I just thought I heard it, but even so, as it is such a strong war, they can appoint another leader and continue, although what is happening is Regrettable , but what has dropped in the price of BTC will have to wait longer , I think it may still have that bullish momentum.