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There is nothing as good as been rewarded for active participation and meaning contribution to the forum. However, newbie who may not be considered a newbie after ranking up tends to go astray.

After ranking up to member rank, the desire to engage in signature begin to grow after discovering or having known how signature works. Hey this is not to scare you away from signature but I do really think, the quest to meet up with numbers of post tends to lead many to low quality posting

Don't assume to have known much just because you have rank up, but exercise patience to learn well and be more useful to the forum, this will also help you have more quality post than chasing cloud.

This is not a rule but a timely advice to newbie who wants to keep their posting reputation in good standard. 
One meaningful post is better than 15 to 20 post that are low in quality just to fulfill signature requirements.

I might be misremembering things but I'm pretty sure tips like this have been shared many times before, even the FAQs on boards or unofficial posting guidelines mention quality posting here and there. Have you tried to see if your topic shares a similarity with another thread before OP? It's way useful if you make a thread that contains various tips, if there's none.

Unfortunately, a lot of them don't like to read. It might be recency bias but I've found so many people misread or misunderstood sentences on the internet over the last few years or so. It's probably just as bad as before, but I can't help but notice the 'sudden' increase in illiteracy when I spend a lot of time on written media (forums, chat groups, etc).

It's up to signature campaign managers to write terms for their campaigns, and assess post quality before broadcasting payment to signature campaign participants.

If low quality posts are not counted and paid by campaign managers, campaign participants who write these shitposts or low-quality posts will stop and improve their post quality. After some warnings from signature campaign manager, if a campaign participant does not change, he will be eliminated from the campaign.

It will be another newbie jail if newbies won't be allowed to post in reputation board.

Signature Campaign Guidelines (read this before starting or joining a campaign) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1684035.0). It is a guideline for campaign managers and campaign participants.

No lies. We've read repeated advices like this which brings me to ask what the Op is hoping to achieve with this.
If this has been discussed several times and there's still those that default it only means that this will only add to the pile and still not make any difference.

You're better off to pay attention with the feedback you received and read what you write in your thread, what you did contradict with what you said. Newbies Stop Teaching When You Need To Learn. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5456580.0)


My advice for you @OP and other users, just post what you like and what you want without need to follow other users' advices because this is just a forum, a place to express, not a place to impress.

If someone make low quality post, the forum will delete it because they have rule to not create low quality post, if their post not get deleted, technically it's not low quality.

I agree and disagree.

Whether we like it or not.  It is true that Signature Campaigns do some how incentivize Shitposting.  Even if the Member makes 20 Posts out of which 4 were completely unnecessary but written strictly for the Post count, that is 20 percent of their Posts being qualified as Shit.  And I doubt a Manager would expel the Member because they thought they had a little number of unnecessary Posts, though they could skip them and not count those for the Post count of the said week.

The reality is.  If there were no Signature Campaigns, the number of Bitcoin Talk Members would be very little while many others would seek alternatives to earn a buck.

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This is true.  Tryhards almost never earn a Merit.  You do not rank up by being a tryhard.

Thank you very much, I once lock this thread but later open it since it was not deleted. I do think the feedback on my trust is something else, I have been away from bitcoins talk for months, my recent resumption now has been faced with criticism and attack local board moderator. My account has been open for 2 years now, if am farming for merit then I should have hit hundreds of them, sometimes I don't enter the forum for months. Leaving a bad remark on people for no good reason is the most irritating stuff ever. Whether merit or not merited , life goes on outside the forum

For your information, repeated threads or posts are not deleted solely based on the fact that something similar already exists because that isn't against the rules, however, it lowers the quality of your posts overall because no matter how good a post is, if it's repeated, you can't call it constructive because it has already been posted or discussed. For your posts or topics to be constructive or helpful, they need to be unique, most of the time, unless it is related to something that has been posted or discussed but is nowhere to be found anymore, maybe removed.

So, whenever you think of starting a thread, make sure you use the search function to see if you can't find something similar. If you do, don't do it, but if you don't, you can go ahead. The same goes for questions and confusions that you might have. There is nothing wrong in asking questions, but if you ask questions that are repeatedly asked and answered in other threads, it doesn't look good, you might even get criticism for it.

Signature campaign managers shouldn't hire spammers or tolerate spam. It’s always better to focus on quality over quantity to reduce spam on the forum. Campaign managers who hire spammers should not be supported, they may be making money, but it damages the forum. Regardless of rank, if someone is a spammer, they will continue to spam.

One of my favorite campaign managers once said that being part of a signature campaign is a privilege, not a right. So, our focus should be on genuinely contributing to the forum. Eventually, our efforts will pay off, and we’ll be rewarded, like being accepted into a well-paying signature campaign managed by quality campaign managers who cares for the forum.

Well, they got weekly quota to fulfill and also in need of mertis that's why newbies always try to teach other newbies about getting merits. :)

As per the logic, no matter how much posts someone post they're never gonna get any merits for them unless they're circling them in between their farm that's why it's important to realise which one to focus.

If ranking up is someone's ambition here they're not going to reach the potential, learning should be the key and ranking up is just a byproduct of it.

In as much as i will say you are right I will also say you are wrong, it true that alof of newbie tends to hustle for merits and most of them ends up writing low quality post just because they are in a rush to rank up, but again if you should take a good look at it merit encourage many newbie, they engage in conversation and make research because they wnat to rank up. Imagine this forum without merit alot of people won't even be here, and the few once that are here won't even want to make research about bitcoin because they feel there is no reward for it.

You made a good point to be honest because i see alot of newbies asking unnecessary questions just because they want their activities to get high but you can't get merit by making low quality post or even asking unreasonable questions so I think they make post for the activities. Regardless, I will urge all newbie who are found of doing such to try and improve their post and you can only improve your post when you make research about bitcoin so you can engage in conversations and make reasonable point.

It's not wrong if there are members who have reached a rank that has met the rules to register for a signature campaign because it can motivate them to maintain the quality of their posts. In my opinion, not all of their actions are bad but don't just expect payment.
If OP's post is considered advice or reminder, then there have been many topics like this that have been created on the forum.

I will not judge all members of this forum for making posts just to get paid from the campaign they are participating in because there are still many forum members who write for other purposes.

We have to consider the rank of a newbie to be what everyone of us have once passed through, another thing to have in mind is to know the reason or purpose on why someone is joining the forum, some were here only to make fun and there is nothing they can do about that to change it, while some were here only because they have some important things to discover and know about crypto, which all these are part of the main reasons why some will stay, learn and you also see some leaving.

Tips like this that are coming from a newbie is a suspension that their are not actually newbies and have already accounts because of the way and experience in their statement, giving ab advice is good, but some of the real newbies already knows that.


Real newbie don't give advice of this kind since they will be lacking the knowledge and experience, and they are just focused on building they accounts and knowledge to busy to be engaging in such discussion that only old timers have skills for like this one over here.

Most campaign managers accept particpants from Full Member rank and above, they don't usually accept Member or Jr Member rank. The benefits of signature campaigns outweighs its disadvantages and it incentivizes quality posts and better users, for example, if you constantly make low quality posts, it reduces your chances of joining a campaign and if you are already in one, it increases your chances of getting kicked out, this motivates users to post better.

That being said, if you know you'd not be able to meet the posting requirements of a campaign without spamming, it is better not to apply for such campaigns and wait for one that suits you.

I beg to differ on this, yes I get your point about an actual newbie been able to ditch out some advices because of the lack of knowledge but advice like what the OP is currently giving out is something that an actually newbie can give out by merely reading through the forum. Many newbies have developed the habit of reading through the forum and seeing that it is threads like this that actually earns some members merits in the past they easily also make one of this threads too. The only time i question the credibility of a newbie actually been a genuine one is when they talk maybe about the forum deep history then you can clearly guess they aren’t newbies as they claim to be


A clear example of this is the gambling focused campaigns, you will see many members actually going for this campaign with some of them actually lacking knowledge in the gambling industry or have any sport related experiences and that is why you see so much spamming on that board.

Yeah I think this could help , if you won't be able to meet up with the post count of a campaign then not applying seem to be the good idea but I don't think it really works..., currently you can only get picked in a campaign  if you are well qualified  and even if you're qualified, you still have to compete with other that are as qualified or more qualified  in making quality post than you(everyone would love to give a try nmw).Getting picked makes you privileged over others(i mean no one will like to give up that becauseof the post count), now the need to adapt to the boards for required posting  arrives and most campaigns are gambling... thus, you not been qualified as a shitposters depends on who..  and how others see your post , some see gambling posters as shitposters and trully there's high percent of .... there actually.
The forum is actually broad, just make your post and try not to make it shitty  :).

Merits?

I mean he's trying to educate other newbies out there hoping to get merits. The problem though is that this has been shared multiple times already, and as much as I want to commend OP for at least giving some time to make this thread, I believe there are many threads related to this that have been created already.

Well, I will not say bad things to the OP because maybe he's not aware of it, but what I will say to OP is that, make more threads that are very helpful to other users here and at the same time, hasn't been discussed that much. I'm sure other users will appreciate those kinds of actions. ;) It's time for you OP to at least lock the thread if you don't want to hear criticisms from others. :) Effort appreciated still.

Every newbie always have this in mind, the chase for merit which is natural because that is a criteria forward in the rise in rank but they forget that there are some basic needs that they must acquire before they can be able to get to that level they desire. At first information and knowledge is very important as it will educate them and equip them all through their stay on this platform.

From all the comment and replies I have read here, it looks like thread of this nature already exist here and OP possibly is not aware or do not have knowledge of them. Maybe he could take time to go through them since it is now known to his consciousness.

it's not always deficult to set a goal for yourself and try to stick to it. Ensuring that your post is of high quality shouldn't be all about trying to get into a signature campaign or trying to do so while meeting up with the required numbers of post you're to make in a day. It starts even from your first contribution in the forum and how you prioritize quality over quantity. Your level of knowledge in different subject matter also plays a huge role because at the end of the day, it's not going to be all about the length of your post but more about the quality in it be it just a two line post or a lengthy one.

You know that the structure of the forum gives you a no resting zone because thier are always going to be ranks to be ambitious about and what takes you their is not just that you're in a signature campaign. It's all about being a consistent quality poster that's an asset to the form. Even you, you're still at the low point on the forum, it's not a stage where you should be advising newbies too often. You've got to keep moving and try to become better every day and also learn about Bitcoin, the form and also build your investment portfolio which is actually one of the most important things you've got to do.

Rank up your account is not just a small thing in the forum, no matter how smart you are you can't rank up your account in the forum without making a quality post, it may have before but not now because the current forum that we are now is not a forum that you can earn merit easily, you have to show your skills and quality, make a good post that attract people attention when they read it and you will be reward with merit, many newbies find it difficult to grow up because they don't find it easy to move their account to another level.

And about getting a signature campaign, you can't get a signature campaign when you don't know how to post, many people got removed by the manager because the Manager didn't like his performance in the campaign, but I'm still wondering how some people will struggle to move their account the level of Participating in the campaign and at the end, they won't perform well, what are those things that cause it? Because from my point of view, laziness is the cause of it.

Someone with the rank of a member is no longer a newbie. His short stay here is enough for him to relate his experiences to those below his rank. This is not a technical topic that will require him to acquire years of experience before he can advice others. Everyone of us have experienced some level of difficulties ranking up or adapting to the forum during our early days here. I see nothing wrong with his advice, as long as the advice is not misleading.

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The truth is, not many who are here in this forum are actually here to learn. Some are just here to make money so, they will do anything to increase their activities count. The good thing about this forum is that there are enough regulations restricting newbies with such mindset from flooding this forum with shit posts and plagiarised contents. The merit system too has been able to force some people to work on their writing  skills. Newbies who are in a hurry to rank up and start earning will only be putting themselves at risk if they try to outsmart the forum moderators.

Even if the bounty manager gives room for low quality posts I am sure that the forum managers won't, because too much low quality posts becomes a problem for the account as time goes on, I heard that low quality posts can lead to ban as well, correct me if I am wrong.

Mind you, we are all newbie at a time, we ended up getting better at posting on the forum, but OP is right that if anyone comes on this forum solely to particite in signature campaigns, they can easily break the forum rules.

Beginners must go through the forum's rules first before doing anything else, it was my first mistake when I created my forum account years ago, there are many posts about the do and don't of the forum already, not hard to find..

You are right, but most people don't get carried away as you may think, they might just think that they have to post to meetup their signature requirements which is why some have to respond to some threads they have no idea about, but it is still part of learning because we learn every day.
Ranking up is hard because to get merits in this forum these days is very difficult, that is why some of the newbies that ranked up to member rank will be aiming to use their account for signature campaign and keep posting so that they can keep earning and ranking up at the same time.
Quality posters always standout despite the number of comments that has already been made so far in the thread, therefore, it is good to be a quality poster by all means.

What I think most newbies does lately is that, when they received a few merits, their begin to act along and play the game thinking that posting to gain merits is same as posting quality posts here in the forum, I think that is not the case, a shit poster may be smart enough to post where his post's will attract attention of some merits Source and at that they end up sending merits to such a profile because the account post in a way that truly get they attention.


Such a member can go on with that mentality and ending up ranking up with such mentality and at the end misout on what to do to post high quality post's regardless of the merits rewards.

Are there guides to making quality posts??

You are focusing on newbies in your example, and maybe that rank is the most obvious to talk about low quality posts, exceptions apart. But even among Legendaries you can usually find users who sometimes post ideas which are more meaningful than others, and viceversa. In fact, in my signature's campaign, the Manager warned us recently that it seemed that some participants got too relaxed. But it is true that it is one of the best campaigns in the forum, and that not all managers share the same high standards, or at least not for all campaigns, which is also understandable (if you'll got rewarded a few shitcoins for your participation, if ever, what quality could you be asked to provide!?).

It is even rare to see signature campaigns that recruit member ranks and below so if a newbie is rushing to join signature, as long as the forum rules are not broken, I don't see any problem with that as it is up to the manager of the campaigns to select who they consider ideal for the campaign they manage. It is not bad to aspire to earn extra income from the forum as most of you make it look, it could just be a motivation for newbies to engage actively in discussions across the forum. What will become bad is spamming and breaking the forum rules in effort to appear intelligent or smart, something I noctice that is common among newbies.

Post like this makes a whole lot of sense actually but it would have been appreciated the most if you had made it different by probably giving some guide to making quality post because before this thread of yours dead OP there have been similar threads that speaks about almost same thing in an even elaborate form.

This isn't a bad one though, maybe it will serve as a reminder to others especially newbies who will come across it and have probably haven't come across others before this one.

There are but I think the question should have been, what made a post not to be quality enough and I will say they are definitely plagiarism, if you are making a content that is not yours even though it's quality, it will be taken as offensive post because they are not yours and you may be tagged for doing such. It's better to give credit for such post or any information that didn't come directly from your head, you can simply used quote and you are good to go.

Another quick note is that you should learn about Bitcoin, altcoins and other things related to cryptocurrency, if you don't learn this things, I'm afraid you will only be spamming and posting unrelated things, probably spamming every board with unrelated things and in the end, you will get tagged for doing so. Lastly, read things before you reply, otherwise you will only be making off replies which will probably get deleted or in off topic board, similar to when you post off thread/topic.

Well I think you are right because as long as this Bitcointalk forum is concerned is very hard for you to see a signature campaign that is accepting member rank. Though sometimes I used to wonder why most newbie are always inquisitive to join signature campaign although we know that everybody need fund to take do one or two but is actually good for us to gether the knowledge first so that it'll enable us contribute meaningful in the forum and rank up to full member before thinking about signature campaign because even though if you don't learn how to make a meaningful post you are still going to find it difficult when you join campaign.

You have a very good advice. There I no need to rush in ranking up and joining a signature campaign. Because this could lead to some mistakes which will be costly. It is better to enjoy the forum and grow naturally.

This link might help you to know more about posting. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1689727.0.

Quality posts are contributions that are beneficial to the community. When you can give out helpful information that educates, solves problems or answers questions, you are a quality poster. For me, the easiest way to become a quality poster is to keep learning and through observation. You would be able to contribute meaningfully to the forum if you keep researching. And by observing reputable members, you can easily learn from them.

Op, I'm not trying to condemn your efforts in creating a thread to guide newbies in this forum on how to rank up to Full Member rank and above, but this your post lacks the solution that will guide newbies in achieving Full Member rank and above. Because you fail to explain to newbies what a meaningful post is and how they can possibly post a meaningful post. And you also fail to advise newbies not to join a signature campaign when they gain their member rank in this forum, so that they will not be in a hurry when posting in this forum. This will help the newbies in this forum to learn and grow because they will have enough time to research and bring ideas that will be of help to this forum since they will not have to meet up any signature campaign post count in a week.

There are many campaigns that have it in their rules that low-quality posts get paid. And that is how it works; that is why many users here on the forum who participate in signature campaigns try to put in hard work to make them. Quality posts before the end of the week to get paid. If they did not do so, they will get removed without payment by the campaign manager, so regardless of your rank, as long as the campaign will accept the member rank, it is up to you to apply. There is nothing like getting scared; just make sure you meet up with the requirements of the campaign. 
 

Yeah sure. Learning never stops, and for the fact that here is a learning environment regardless of the user rank, he needs to learn more in the forum and also get engaged in meaningful and educational conversations that will help other people to grow in knowledge. 

Mentioning signature campaigns will only make newbies more focused on it rather than learning and the intention to contribute to the forum through posting posts that of good/high quality. It is also not necessarily to spoon-fed everything that a person know about something as to make other people think that a person should put an effort to what they want to do or else those people woluld only depends on someone to help them when they have something they couldn't understand.

True one meaningful post is better than 20 low-quality posts. Since you know this hypothesis why do you have 384 posts and only 30 merits? This means you have failed to make a quality post in the forum. Only 30% of your posts have good qualities and the rest are not eligible to be merit. Perhaps you just know about this now and that is why you want to share it with the public Good one. Once you make a massive contribution to the forum, once can still be a newbie but have the quality and requirement of a legendary member.

Note: The essence of ranking up is not for signature campaigns as any newbies who have that in mind will never rank up in the forum.

Yes Setting goals and achieving them should not be hard. But in online forums quality is more important than quantity. We do not just focus on posting a lot or meeting requirements. Instead of this make sure our posts are helpful and valuable from start. Knowing different subjects is important. Short post can be more useful than long one. Even if we are new keep learning about Bitcoin and about forum.  To be valuable to forum we need to keep improving and growing. Focus on making ourself better and posting quality content.

Merits is meant to show your evolvement on the forum, it was meant to highlight quality posts but it hasn't fully achieved this purpose but arguably, anybody that has received merit is meant to be a quality poster with some knowledge of what he's sharing with the community.

Your ranking up shouldn't be seen as some achievement that you did all by yourself and your knowledge because alot of newbies get help from meriters for just trying. I see lots of merits on threads that only shows some sort of support to the user involved.

After ranking up, the next thing is to rank up your quality posts too because you might likely not get the same support you were getting as a newbie when you become a Snr/Hero member.

You're automatically seen as someone that should know what they're saying so if you don't improve, you might begin to fall short of the merits.

If poor quality posts are as results of members trying to meet up their post counts then this accuse should not be hold personally on the newbies but members who has been admitted to signature campaigns.
Although I would quite agree with you that some members are due to meeting up their post counts tends to produce low quality posts


Here in ranking up is a significant that your knowledge is growing and your quality contributions to the forum is the determinant of your ranking up through which your posts were able to earn you merits while activity counts is automated by your post counts.

You might actually know much but impossible to know it all and that is why even the high ranked members of the forum do ask questions and carrying on consultational researches in the forum for clarity at where they are complicated or have no knowledge about.

I have the same thought as you; quality posters do earn merits by all means because their posts always contain informative or educative content that will guide or help others in the forum, and we have seen many quality posters that have earned merits above expectations and they don't even care about their ranks because maybe they are here to either learn or share some information to the public and the merits they receive serve as their reward for the good deed and their effort.
Although, merits are scarce these days in the forum, but yet, quality posts are still merited by merit sources.

Some people do join the forum because of the signature campaign, you can't blame them because most of them are looking for ways to earn a living depending on their respective economic situation, and lack of work. The main aim is to share the right information and contribute to the forum positively.

As there's nothing as good as being rewarded for active participation and contributions in the forum, so is it good for one to gain all the necessary information and knowledge they need for their growth in crypto and the forum?

Many newbies have given up early in the forum just because they are finding it hard to rank up, not knowing that by being active in the forum, there is a whole lot of knowledge about crypto they stand to gain that will be beneficial to them and their future approach to crypto.

However, reaching a certain rank like full member and above in the forum doesn't come easily; that's what most newbies forget to note, that everything takes time before it's been actualized. Many high-rank members they see in the forum participating in signature campaigns weren't accepted in those campaigns in a platter of gold. It was their long hard work in the forum that paved the way for them that they are enjoying the fruit of their labor of making quality posts since their early days as newbies

It's just about natural selection and when they are beginners they can't afford to climb the ranks and struggle to grow their account.
They don't maximize their abilities, I myself also learn from the beginning and don't understand anything, but when I am consistent and stay active in the forum, I start to know what to do.

It's not just about the money and income generated on the forum, but about how to stay active and productive, so it will be more beneficial for this forum.

Now that there are more benefits that I have gotten after more than 8 years in this forum, I have started to get to know a lot of new friends and circles, started learning crypto and started my own investment and trading and of course participated in many contests that could give me more profits.

Well even at Legendary rank, I cant still assume that I almost know everything, but in perfect sense I am not. Still learning few stuff outside of what Id already know. The rank might have achieved but the specific knowledge still on process. Same goes for other ranks. Staying on forum with an active participation keeps you learning things.

Signature is just a bonus to those posting equivalent especially if you share some valuable one.

Yeah, I've seen it multiple times, most of the threads are older than 120 days and bumping it would be considered against forum rules of waking up a dead thread, do I don't see much original with a reminder on how to do the right thing, and funny enough most newbies now didn't have the opportunity to experience such threads, so this with likely be good info for the new guys.

Making a good post is all about creativity, you download your creativity, experience and wealth of knowledge to the forum in form of contributions to it's activities.
So when you make a post, preview it, read again and you should ask yourself the level of impact that very post would make on the community whether positive, negative or no impact at all. Truth is that some people don't go through such honest self evaluation before posting and it yields little or no impact.

When you appraise your post and see it's not conveying the information properly, you can support it with images, charts or even a reading or video link to drive your points home and as such you end up contributing positively to the forum. I've even had times when I constructed posts and saw it made no sense and I didn't post it since it didn't make sense to me, I doubted it would make to others.

Making a post only when you have good knowledge for it, have great ideas for discussion and contribution. Knowledge is key, then your experience will decide your post quality.

To make your post is actually helpful for readers and discussion, you must read previous posts too. If answers were asked, issue was solved, you don't need to make your post.

I disagree to say making posts relates to creativity as if you you zero knowledge on the issue is asked for help, and you are trying to make a creative post that is useless and can not help OP or anyone in the discussion. If your creativity misleads OP, readers and relates to fund that can be lost, it's terrible post.

Learn and read before posting will help you increasing your post quality.

Creativity without knowledge is stupidity. You can't be creative in a setting your ignorant of, so before you can even apply creativity, you must have good knowledge of the base concern and you craft something nice out of existing concerns and bringing it home here, it's the discussion in question.

So creativity and knowledge goes have in hand, after knowledge comes creativity, so I think we're on the same page and there's nothing to disagree with, well unless for the case of someone who's just interested in advertising his stupidity being creative on subject matters he's not conversant with.

True, Very unique, of course everyone must have a good basis in asking questions, giving answers or opinions. At least the aspects of the subject, predicate and object must be there so as not to float and confuse the audience. The Questioner must also be good at asking questions and those who provide answers even though they are short but concise and have meaning.

Yes you have said it all because one may not make post at all because of the fear of not making quality post so the quality of a particular post is not just something that can be determined by one user because I don't think if there is criteria in ascertain the quality of a post.

Yes that is right creativity and knowledge go hand in hand. We can not have one without other. To create something worthwhile we need to really understand what we are working working with. Knowledge gives us solid base and creativity adds to it. Without knowledge creative ideas might not make sense or work well. In simple words creativity uses knowledge to come up with new and innovative ideas.

Yes, there is no criteria for quality post, because every user knows how to judge his posting quality, but well informative and educative posts are always referring to as quality post. If your post is educative, and informative, you will earn merits.

If your post help others in the forum, you will earn merits; and if your post answers or solve someone's problem related to Bitcoin and cryptocurrency, you will earn merits from the post.
Therefore, if you know these criterial, then any post you made that consist of all these information, you might be merited because it is a quality post.