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https://edition.cnn.com/2022/12/22/politics/cassidy-hutchinson-trump-fighting-secret-service/index.html (https://edition.cnn.com/2022/12/22/politics/cassidy-hutchinson-trump-fighting-secret-service/index.html)


Trump acknowledged in private that he had lost the election but he did not care, he would keep on "fighting like hell" despite knowing that he was trying to disenfranchise millions of US citizens. Regardless of not achieving his objective of overturning a legally elected government, he is a threat to the US democracy as he has zero respect for the people's choice. it is only by the judges put by himself in the SCOTUS  that he is not in jail.

At this point, we are just pouring water into a full bathtub.

If Trump loses, he will go to prison.  If he wins, everyone else will.  :/

Of course Trump recognized that he lost... to the Deep State that cheated way more than he imagined they would. He still says such, and that is why he is fighting so hard... to correct the cheating.

When Trump wins, he will give average Americans freedom from the Deep State lies.

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I mean, there are already many testimonies of Trump during election night and he day after on who he expressed he lost the election. Obviously, the prosecutors are trying to cobtinue to build up a case against him by collecting information on his state of mind while alledgedly trying to overthrow the election.
Though, I am not sure Jack Smith will be able to make a good use of information like this one, after all this is the word of Trump's former staff against his own word and whether they are willing to claim under oath.
In my opinion, the infamous call of Trump and his lawyers pressuring authorities in Georgia, like the States secretary there to overturn the election in the state stands as the most strong people of evidence it exists for Trump to be scared to go to jail.

^^^ Again, Trump recognized early on that he lost the election. The reason why he kept fighting was because he also recognized the WAY he lost the election. He lost it by the CHEATING of the Deep State.

The whole prosecution thing being done by the Deep State against Trump has to do with trying to stop him from revealing the cheating that the Deep State did. If Trump wins the election, and gets back into office, the Deep State will lose everything they gained by cheating... and maybe their freedom, as well (prison time).

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Trump's chances of losing are increasing and he is constantly falling behind in various US polls, while Harris is running his campaign with great enthusiasm. Will Americans really accept Harris?

Ah.. interesting... so he lost, but did not loose, but it was because of the Dragons of Voldemor.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/vance-trump-2020-election-b2623517.html (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/vance-trump-2020-election-b2623517.html)


Both of those things cannot be true (again logic is not your major strength).

If in his mind the election was in anyway altered to a degree in which he won because he got the right votes in the right places and then someone did whatever (across several states, leaving no practical proof, without even Trump able to provide evidence,... etc.) then he did not "loose", he won but was robbed of the result. You see? It is a completely different thing.

^^^ Again, Trump lost the election to Deep State cheating...

... But he won it in the honest-vote way.

Gradually the truth that this is what happened is coming out. But the Deep State is keeping it hidden like they were at war with the truth.

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Trump reminds me of African politicians. They have the sit-tight syndrome that can make them go to any length to gain political power. An African politician is ready to instigate the people to go to civil war because of his ambition. Knowing that he lost the election and still encouraged his supporters to invade the United States Capitol Building in Washington, D.C., should be classified as a coup d'etat. I guess the US standard or quality of democracy is gradually dropping because, in a functional democracy, Trump should have been barred from holding any political office for life.

Glory to Trump! America will be great!

... Or perhaps, he lost because the people of the United States who lives in swing states like Georgia and Arizona did not think he did a good enough job during those four years and wanted something different?
It is not that difficult, people see the policies and the way a president governs the country and they decided whether they want to continue walking along that path or go for a detour.
Also, I insist: if there is a deep state and Trump knew about it during his first term, why did not he do anything to stop them and drain the swamp in the congress and the house of representatives? Maybe, it is because Donald Trump is a swamp creature himself and those who live in glass houses for not throw stones at anyone?

Why does American presidential election come with so much propaganda and defamation, such that if you are not an insider or take your time to research some things, you will end up hating on someone that did nothing wrong to you.
It seems that every presidential contestant is a sinner to some people and righteous to some other set of Americans.

When it was Hillary Clinton's time, I read alot of her sins and including that of Obama. I have read the version of Biden. Trump's version has been loud though, yet so many Americans trust Trump and see him as a saviour. Groups keep aligning with him and yet people present him as if he is failing.

Presidential elections come with all that fighting among the candidates because of money. It's like this.

People have made deals/contracts with government. Even average people have done this with things like Social Security, WHICH IS VOLUNTARY. This means that government has all kinds of authority over them. The President has become a king, and gets rich because of the authority he has by contract with the people. If he pushes that authority too far and too hard, the people will rebel. If they understood, they might rebel; many of them have.

Rebelling is easy and hard at the same time for the people.

It's easy in the way that they can simply revoke their signatures off their contracts with government. It's lawful to do this.

It's hard because of the way that government has penetrated their living conditions. They would have a hard time living in society if they were the only one who revoked the contract.

Besides, most of them don't know about all this. Knowledge is the way out.


Trump is using his position as President differently. He is fighting the Deep State. We don't realize how deep the Deep State goes. It's in the money system and in Big Business. Trump has found it out by not being able to simply destroy it his first term.

Why destroy the Deep State at all? Because it has made us all slaves to some extent, but wants even more control.


The way to destroy the Deep State is to shut down the Federal Reserve Bank, and bring back Constitutional money under the US Treasury. Trump probably couldn't do this in the face of all the resistance he would get from Congress. But if he looked like he was having success at it, they would see that he was assassinated for real.


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It is that way because in these lastest years American politics has become darker and it has become more political correct to use devious strategies to discredit one's political foes in elections in that country. It was not this way way back in the 2000s when there were higher standards for people who wished to hold a political charge in the government of the United States, in those times any of the things Donald Trump has done would have been enough to destroy a political career, a convicted felon had no chance to become the Republican nominee, that is for sure.
Even if Trump is gone and does not get involved in politics anymore, he has already inflicted a huge damage to his own country.

It is Trump and his activities that have caused the Dem Deep State to fight him so fiercely. Trump is waking the people up to the criminal activity of the Dem Deep State. This Dem Deep State activity has killed millions around the globe, and all for money and control. And it is tearing America apart.

Such Trump damage is just the kind of damage people need, so they can see what's going on, so they can stop (hopefully) the wicked Dem Deep State evil activity, even if Trump doesn't survive.

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Again, Vance is not saying that. I mean, the guy is probably from a cloning factory in Alpha Centaury VI with some issues with the oxygen supply (I borrowed some from Orwell here), but he seems to have mastered English to a sufficient degree to understand that it means to say Trump won the elections.

https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/10/01/vance-walz-vp-debate-tonight/vance-wont-say-trump-lost-in-2020-00182102 (https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/10/01/vance-walz-vp-debate-tonight/vance-wont-say-trump-lost-in-2020-00182102)

There are three result on an election: win, lose, draw. I do not think he is implying a draw so this must be he says it is a win for the Reps. So, that is the official version not what you say it is.


At this moment, the only deep state, that is, unelected people who decide on what is legal and what is not, is the SCOTUS, with its conservative majority properly created by Trump.

How'd the deep state cheat?

By interfering with the voting machines, and then interfering with the courts to make it look like they didn't interfere with the vote.

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Again, that is not what Vance is saying. You really want to talk about voting machines?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominion_Voting_Systems_v._Fox_News_Network (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominion_Voting_Systems_v._Fox_News_Network)



So BA, it would seem the Deep State is so extended, includes so many people across all states,  judge, institutions, police, army ... It would seem that if so many people wanted Biden to win, it would actually be a majority - so they would simply had to vote and win.. which is what actually happened dumBAss.  ;D ;D ;D ;D


And you get to say it for free, but for Fox it was not. Certainly it was not at all...

What are the interim election results now?

Trump doesn't look good against Harris, so I strongly doubt him.

In Russia?

The system always cheat. You cannot trust it not to be evil otherwise you violate the trustless principle of this space. It's very opaque and centralized. You need lots of transparency and independence to verify what is right or wrong.
Trump was/is way more popular and influential than his opponents, but somehow they managed to score popular votes. It's due to the obviously corrupt and rigged system. It's rigged right from the voters register, election equipments, selection process, media, the big companies, election days, etc. They are all controlled and rigged by thesame entity.
The system is made to favour the most obedient and controlled candidates who will follow the most suitable plan or agenda for the moment. You can easily predict who the preferred candidate is if you know the top agenda or policy of the system. It must be part of the candidate's policies. But they have run into great problems this time around and will end up handing over power to alternative candidate, which is Trump.
The voting system can't be trusted to produce the most qualified and truely popular candidate. Or do you believe it can be trusted? If no, then we must use the most most trustworthy means to get the most desired candidate. That is what will happen, for the sake of fairness and justice. Nobody can go against this.

It's annoying to definitely rule out Trump in the forthcoming elections or his chances of winning the outcome basically depends on the numbers... However, trump has maintained a strong base of supporters within an other side the republican party, although his campaign focused more on immigration issues, trade and national security which resonates with majority of the voters.

Actually, what you call rigging works vastly in favour of the Republican party - nothing new, it is called Gerrymandering (named after Massachusetts governor famous for the practice).

There are two things keeping artificially alive the Republican party:

1 - winner takes all in most states - popular vote has been democrats since 2008  (https://www.statista.com/statistics/1035521/popular-votes-republican-democratic-parties-since-1828/)
2- Frequent Gerrymandering - this includes drawing completely artificial borders with racial profiling considerations and favouring country over cities.

So, you are right... the system is rigged, to your favour.

Why do you say that I worship Trump? What do you worship? The cabal... Cabala?

The Deep State has gotten into THAT much power. They have a long way to go to literally take down the American people, partly because of the Constitution, but also because God wants people to have freedom in a righteous way... and a lot of Americans want what God wants, too. But it doesn't bother the Deep State because they have used THEIR freedom to do what they do in two ways:
1. Working through the ignorance of the people (the people are waking up with Trump);
2. The banking system (the people are waking up with Bitcoin).
The DS is losing it. Look at how old Klaus Schwab, Soros, and Gates are getting.

The Deep State control of the courts isn't complete enough, yet, for them to pull all the strings. Not in the US, anyway. But their work through the banking system's support of themselves, is killing people worldwide and is making them stronger in some ways. Do you really like THAT?

Trump is waking the people up just by existing... even if he is not good. But he is way better than the alternative. And, He worships God... at least to some extent.

Ultimately the DS will be destroyed.

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The thing about BA is that he does not feel the need to prove anything. He just says whatever stuff suits and there you go... For example, if you ask: Why do you say rain falls upwards? The answer will be something like:

1 - The deep state wants you to believe that it falls downwards, and it is so powerful that it is impossible to prove otherwise.
2 - Trump has said it falls upwards and Trump is awakening the US citizens to the truth.
3 - Soros and Gates make the rain fall downwards, but once Trump takes over it will fall upwards again...

Notice that 1,2 are pretty much opposite to 3, but it does not matter because... it is the deep state and all...

That's the question to ask. All the same, all hopes are not lost for Trump until after the election day and the winner is announced. That's when it will dawn on everyone, who's the newly elected president of the United States.

That said, we are just currently pouring water into a full bathtub, as Mr Vod has rightly said. It's after the Nov 5th election we will know who owns the full bathtub of water for themselves to wash off the suspense and tension that comes with election results and winnings.