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Title: Scrypt N and X11 are flawed Post by: El Dude on March 31, 2014, 03:16:37 PM https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=18166.0
Title: Re: Scrypt N and X11 are flawed Post by: IloveAnonCoin on March 31, 2014, 03:22:03 PM https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=18166.0 I agree with you :) coblee makes a right choice. Title: Re: Scrypt N and X11 are flawed Post by: flipme on March 31, 2014, 03:41:50 PM Sure dude, everything is flawed.
Or a scam, or at least not secure. You forgot to mention that here, like on all the 100 other threads your spreading your FUD. You three are on every thread. Whats your agenda? http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4b/Matrix_Agents.jpg From left to right: Agents El Dude, MarkM, and BCX Title: Re: Scrypt N and X11 are flawed Post by: flipme on March 31, 2014, 03:58:18 PM https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=18166.0 I agree with you :) coblee makes a right choice. They will simply do it without him then. That was an expected response by the ASIC MOB. Title: Re: Scrypt N and X11 are flawed Post by: dspair on March 31, 2014, 04:04:55 PM Welp, rip in peace litecoin.
Title: Re: Scrypt N and X11 are flawed Post by: maranello1561 on March 31, 2014, 04:06:08 PM Charlie makes the right choice... Hard forking now will kill the litecoin
Title: Re: Scrypt N and X11 are flawed Post by: flipme on March 31, 2014, 04:13:46 PM It's the end of Scrypt then...
Pick a coin here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=522235.0 and add Litecoin to the list. Litecoin was a scam in the first place. And as it seems, it's not secure though. Title: Re: Scrypt N and X11 are flawed Post by: markm on March 31, 2014, 04:16:35 PM It is the start of real serious scrypt, especially if Litecoin and DOGE adapt so they can be merged mined together, thus no longer trying to fragment the scrypt space making all scrypt coins weaker. Finally scrypt can mature to be a real option for serious finances instead of a toy that can only be used for trivially small transactions due to its vulnerability to double-spend attacks and such.
-MarkM- Title: Re: Scrypt N and X11 are flawed Post by: flipme on March 31, 2014, 04:22:49 PM Aah, Nr. 2 is on board now.
It's a trio. Extended version of the good cop/bad cop duo. Here we have a good cop/bad cop/senior crook trio. Dangerous people, probably. And now comes the "Merged Mining" side story. Let me use some of your favorite phrases here: BULLSHIT! SCAM! Title: Re: Scrypt N and X11 are flawed Post by: frobley on March 31, 2014, 04:50:12 PM Yes, I'm running a huge scrypt asic farm, I do NOT want any changes!
edit: almost cashed out, ok proceed Title: Re: Scrypt N and X11 are flawed Post by: DubFX on March 31, 2014, 04:54:02 PM Hmm somehow i can't access litecointalk? Is it down or ddosed?
Title: Re: Scrypt N and X11 are flawed Post by: El Dude on March 31, 2014, 10:07:36 PM Hmm somehow i can't access litecointalk? Is it down or ddosed? site loads fine , Litecointalk.org Title: Re: Scrypt N and X11 are flawed Post by: Spoetnik on March 31, 2014, 10:32:53 PM Sure dude, everything is flawed. Or a scam, or at least not secure. You forgot to mention that here, like on all the 100 other threads your spreading your FUD. You three are on every thread. Whats your agenda? http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4b/Matrix_Agents.jpg From left to right: Agents El Dude, MarkM, and BCX and your on them all defending them i have watched you do it for ages.. want some credibility over those other guys that already earned theirs ? don't get involved in the sleaziest of scam coins then run around here defending them non stop.. with bs. those other guys you mentioned always have something to say and are thoughtful mature and articulate and contribute to the conversations. do you ? edit: i read most of it on that link and guy makes some compelling arguments for sure. and lets be real here who is qualified to make those decisions ? That dev talking knows more about than i do so his word has more weight than mine or many of yours here who just got here and are barking on for ulterior motives.. Title: Re: Scrypt N and X11 are flawed Post by: digitalindustry on March 31, 2014, 10:37:44 PM https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=18166.0 I agee they are flawed, best stick with Scrypt. I think we should raise an incentive for someone to optimizes the Sgminer though. Title: Re: Scrypt N and X11 are flawed Post by: IloveAnonCoin on March 31, 2014, 10:47:22 PM Scrypt N is useless, also X11
Title: Re: Scrypt N and X11 are flawed Post by: Spoetnik on March 31, 2014, 10:49:41 PM here is what was said about X11 quoted for ya all..
Quote X11 is Far Worse X11 suffers from the problems stemming from increased propagation latency and slow verification, and adds even worse susceptibility to ASIC advantage. It is a mere mishmash of 11 separate algorithms that are now GPU mineable (according to Darkcoin’s homepage). Anything GPU mineable can be implemented in custom hardware. To make matters worse, ASIC’s could even have a major speedup advantage over GPU’s. adam3mus said, “it does seem likely that eg if the unused space due to heat can be filled with the other hashes, then it can all be pipelined together and no slowdown. the only cost is replicating different hash functions which doesnt seem particularly hard” So a switch to X11 only delays the inevitable. Switching the hash to X11 would only spite the current manufacturers while ultimately failing in the goal of preventing ASIC’s later. It gets even worse. If the cost of entry for a particular PoW is very high by design, that increases the chance of fewer competing manufacturers entering a market. This is the worst possible outcome for any Bitcoin-like network that relies upon large quantities of greedy miners to outdo each other to maintain network security. rational thinking is what i see going on.. fanboysism is the definition of stupidity things ARE the way they are so i want real information and not sensational headline titles as seen on the DarkCoin topic title i already made fun of lol the title of the ANN page boasts a bunch of bs as far as i am concerned. And guys let's not forget about Botnets like Darkcoin is trying hard to do.. they are avoiding addressing that issue or acknowledging it in anyway. even after i went and mentioned it and got flamed.. it is basically a coin copied from Quark etc and those suffer from severe massive botnet operations that continue to grow. people go and rent massive server farms to mine them but idiots ignore this going on with Dark coin and push the it's asics resistant company tag line.. I also mentioned that it's not just it's being pushed as a "common man" cpu miner coin but it's a GPU mined coin with STILL no gpu miners even mentioned on page 1 of the ANN topic. deceptive bs and games to say the least combined with other pages like the official CPU-Only Coin list here at bitcointalk pushing it as coin #3 in the cpu mined coins list. Title: Re: Scrypt N and X11 are flawed Post by: flounderella on April 01, 2014, 12:07:21 AM Sure dude, everything is flawed. Or a scam, or at least not secure. You forgot to mention that here, like on all the 100 other threads your spreading your FUD. You three are on every thread. Whats your agenda? http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4b/Matrix_Agents.jpg From left to right: Agents El Dude, MarkM, and BCX Frankly I'd give more weight to Charlie's opinion and some of those you quoted here than your fud... Earn your keep and maybe we'll listen to you in time. Title: Re: Scrypt N and X11 are flawed Post by: degxtra1 on April 01, 2014, 12:30:16 AM I think Litecoin should convert to X11 as soon as possible. Im tired of all this trolls who wants to hijacked LTC for their wealth. LTC was created to be anti-ASIC.
Title: Re: Scrypt N and X11 are flawed Post by: arielbit on April 01, 2014, 03:14:38 AM Mathematics > scrypt N/jane and x11
i'm in CGA cryptographic anomaly...ASICS are welcomed :D |
